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Obama speaks tonight to the sheep. It’s high time. He hasn’t been on the front page for 48 hours, or so.
New policy in Afghanistan or more of the same?
Democrats and liberals on the weblog have been afraid to state their positions, yet survey after survey and polls indicate 2/3 of democrats are against the war, 2/3 of indepedents, and 1/3 of republicans.
Here’s mine: Bring all our troops home from foreign shores now. Obama does not have the will or the desire to stay the course. Every military operation will be based upon politics – not sound military tactics. Obama leading with armchair politicians calling the shots will lead to another Vietnam in Afghanistan.
Updated poll data:
CBS News Poll
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“Do you approve or disapprove of the way Barack Obama is handling the situation with Afghanistan?”
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Approve Disapprove Unsure . .
% % % . .
38 43 19
“In general, how would you say things are going for the U.S. in Afghanistan: very well, moderately well, moderately badly, or very badly?” Options rotated
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Very Well Moderately
Well Moderately
Badly Very Badly Unsure
% % % % %
2 30 45 21 2
A majority of Americans now see the war in Afghanistan as not worth fighting, and just a quarter say more U.S. troops should be sent to the country, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.
WASHINGTON – Public approval of President Obama’s handling of the war in Afghanistan has plummeted, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds, amid rising pessimism about the course of the conflict. The divided public places President Obama in a curious position, at least in terms of his own support on the issue of Afghanistan and foreign policy at large. Obama’s overall approval amongst Democrats remains high yet according to polling Dems are strongly against increases in troop levels. Just 29% want to see some sort of increase against 57% who favor a reduction in forces. Republicans meanwhile are solidly against Obama’s foreign policy and give him low approval marks in general of late. Yet 72% of Republicans support troop increases in Afghanistan, including nearly two-thirds (65%) that seek the requested 40,000. The key group of voters remains independents. Mirroring overall totals 46% of independents favor a troop increase. 36% specifically want 40,000 sent overseas against 37% who prefer a troop reduction and 8% wanting to keep the current number in tact.
Voter confidence in America’s conduct of the War on Terror has fallen to its lowest level since the first week of January in 2007. New Rasmussen Reports national telephone polling finds that just 34% of voters say the United States and its allies are winning the War on Terror. That’s down nine points from a month ago and 21 points from when Barack Obama first took office.
CNN/Opinion Research mirrors the previously discussed Gallup poll with just 32% of its responders considering the situation in Afghanistan to being going well against 66% who believe it to be going poorly. A majority of the public (52%) also opposes the war in Afghanistan.
“Do you really want to be the new “war president”? If you go to West Point tomorrow night (Tuesday, 8 p.m.) and announce that you are increasing, rather than withdrawing, the troops in Afghanistan, you are the new war president. Pure and simple. And with that you will do the worst possible thing you could do — destroy the hopes and dreams so many millions have placed in you. With just one speech tomorrow night you will turn a multitude of young people who were the backbone of your campaign into disillusioned cynics.”
– Michael Moore (AKA: Liberal hero)
It’s a complex problem, AmWay.
For a country to win a war (or what ever we’re doing in Afganistan) you must have the will to win it. You need a leader that can inspire the support of our allies and our citizens.
Bush piddled away that support. I think that Obama had a chance to prevail but his year of indecision has pretty much blown his chance.
My boy is in the Marine reserve. His rotation is coming up. I’m offically a pacifist.
Bring ‘em home.
On this date, Dec 1st
1641 Massachusetts becomes 1st colony to give statutory recognition to slavery
1824 The House of Representatives convened to decide the presidential election because no candidate had received a majority in the Electoral College. John Quincy Adams was eventually chosen the winner over Andrew Jackson and Henry Clay.
1955 Rosa Parks, a black seamstress, defied the law by refusing to give up her seat to a white man aboard a Montgomery, Ala., city bus. Parks was arrested, sparking a year-long boycott of the buses by blacks.
1969 The U.S. government held its first draft lottery since World War II.
Notable Quotes
Each day a few more lies eat into the seed with which we are born, little institutional lies from the print of newspapers, the shock waves of television, and the sentimental cheats of the movie screen.
-Norman Mailer
Humorous Bits
Man was predestined to have free will. ~Hal Lee Luyah
I was married by a Judge, I should have asked for a jury. – Groucho Marx
It’s the job never started takes longest to finish. – J.R Tolkien
The cap and tax cards are beginning to fall.
CANBERRA, Dec 1 (Reuters) – Australia’s opposition elected a new leader on Tuesday, Tony Abbott, who is opposed to the government’s carbon-trade laws, ensuring the embattled legislation is almost certain to be defeated in a hostile Senate.
http://www.reuters.com/article/hotStocksNews/idUSSYU00909820091130
James Hansen: Governments advocating for cap and trade are ‘lying through their teeth’
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-25061-Climate-Change-Examiner~y2009m11d30-James-Hansen-Governments-advocating-for-cap-and-trade-are-lying-through-their-teeth
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Poor Algore is going to lose millions $$$.
For much of decade littlegreenfootballs.com was about as reliably conservative as it could get.
But take a look at Charles Johnson’s post today –
Why I Parted Ways With The Right
1. Support for fascists, both in America (see: Pat Buchanan, Robert Stacy McCain, etc.) and in Europe (see: Vlaams Belang, BNP, SIOE, Pat Buchanan, etc.)
2. Support for bigotry, hatred, and white supremacism (see: Pat Buchanan, Ann Coulter, Robert Stacy McCain, Lew Rockwell, etc.)
3. Support for throwing women back into the Dark Ages, and general religious fanaticism (see: Operation Rescue, anti-abortion groups, James Dobson, Pat Robertson, Tony Perkins, the entire religious right, etc.)
4. Support for anti-science bad craziness (see: creationism, climate change denialism, Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, James Inhofe, etc.)
5. Support for homophobic bigotry (see: Sarah Palin, Dobson, the entire religious right, etc.)
6. Support for anti-government lunacy (see: tea parties, militias, Fox News, Glenn Beck, etc.)
7. Support for conspiracy theories and hate speech (see: Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Birthers, creationists, climate deniers, etc.)
8. A right-wing blogosphere that is almost universally dominated by raging hate speech (see: Hot Air, Free Republic, Ace of Spades, etc.)
9. Anti-Islamic bigotry that goes far beyond simply criticizing radical Islam, into support for fascism, violence, and genocide (see: Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, etc.)
10. Hatred for President Obama that goes far beyond simply criticizing his policies, into racism, hate speech, and bizarre conspiracy theories (see: witch doctor pictures, tea parties, Birthers, Michelle Malkin, Fox News, World Net Daily, Newsmax, and every other right wing source)
And much, much more. The American right wing has gone off the rails, into the bushes, and off the cliff.
I won’t be going over the cliff with them.
The great green fraud
They killed the Huckabee cop killer!
And, a prosecutor responded to Huck’s trying to cover his butt last night on the O’reilly Spin Zone.
“Huckabee said on Fox News Channel’s “The O’Reilly Factor” Monday night that Clemmons was allowed back on the street because prosecutors failed to file paperwork in time.
Pulaski County Prosecutor Larry Jegley, whose office opposed Clemmons’ parole in 2000 and 2004, said Huckabee’s comments were “red herrings.”
“My word to Mr. Huckabee is man up and own what you did,” Jegley said. ”
I’m sure there’ll be more Huck time bombs exploding, we commuted/pardoned over a hundred while gov.
Monkey,
Who in the Hell are you to claim what is “reiably conservative”, when everyone who disagrees with your delusion is a “CON”?
You’re an idiot and the little green football guy is a douchebag…since LGF’s days of belittling Ron Paul’s campaign.
http://caivn.org/article/2009/11/30/tea-party-co-founder-blasts-mainstream-gop-imitators
Don’t flatter yourself with your “political prowess”.
Re the bogus “hide the decline” attack.
‘The hockey stick divergence problem ‘
http://www.skepticalscience.com/Hockey-stick-divergence-problem.html
One of the dying cops plugged Clemmons in the torso.
I wonder if Huckabee will offer to deliver the eulogy at their funerals?
Get ready for some American Ass Kickin’ in Afghanistan, there’s a new boss in town. We need a new C&W song to commenorate the occassion.
“Unprecedented” Data Purge At CRU
Pleefer,
Is Ron Paul going to run for U.S. president again?
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Phantom
Posted December 1, 2009 at 8:44 am | Permalink
One of the dying cops plugged Clemmons in the torso.
I wonder if Huckabee will offer to deliver the eulogy at their funerals?
#
Phantom
Posted December 1, 2009 at 9:12 am | Permalink
Get ready for some American Ass Kickin’ in Afghanistan, there’s a new boss in town. We need a new C&W song to commenorate the occassion.
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I sense a role reversal going on. Like certain folks don’t have principles, just politics. For instance, a lib blasting and ridiculing a politician for giving a black guy a second chance, and then spouting John Wayne kick azz get the b@stards war propoganda. Strange.
“Pleefer,
Is Ron Paul going to run for U.S. president again?”-Cosmos
I’ve heard rumors from significant sources that he may just do that.
Maybe this time, the great unwashed won’t be as easily duped by the same old phoney talk by the same old phoney’s.
“I sense a role reversal going on. ”
Like the bushies all of a sudden becoming pacifists?
““I sense a role reversal going on. ”
Like the bushies all of a sudden becoming pacifists?”-Phantom
It destinctly proves the lack of principles from the party-liner’s.
Hey CosMao,
It’s the man of your dreams. Maybe you can have a bake sale to raise the $1209.
“Meet Al Gore in Copenhagen.” The official announcement from this fair Danish city says it all. The former vice president is getting star treatment when he arrives with an entire swarm of green-minded gadflies for the United Nations’ global warming extravaganza, which begins on Dec. 7th.
Why Wait? How much is that in American dollars? The currency conversion says it all, too: 5,999 Danish kroners is equivalent to $1,209.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/dec/01/inside-the-beltway-41029681/
30,000 more troops to fight in unending wars + A Nobel Peace Prize winning CIC =
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength
ATTENTION – ACHTUNG:
CosMao will absent next week as goes on a pilgramage to Hopenhagan see his Messiah.
HANG ON TO YOUR SEATS!
THANK YOU OBAMA, NANCY, HARRY, BARNEY, et al.!!!!! WE’LL SEE YOU FOLKS IN 2010 AND 2012!
http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekwe/multimediafinal.html
Boxlock20,
Hide the decline
Phantom said:
They killed the Huckabee cop killer!
And, a prosecutor responded to Huck’s trying to cover his butt last night on the O’reilly Spin Zone.
“Huckabee said on Fox News Channel’s “The O’Reilly Factor” Monday night that Clemmons was allowed back on the street because prosecutors failed to file paperwork in time.
Pulaski County Prosecutor Larry Jegley, whose office opposed Clemmons’ parole in 2000 and 2004, said Huckabee’s comments were “red herrings.”
“My word to Mr. Huckabee is man up and own what you did,” Jegley said. ”
I’m sure there’ll be more Huck time bombs exploding, we commuted/pardoned over a hundred while gov.
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PHANTOM: As usual your facts are history…always looking back, never facing the “now”. Huckabee pardoned the low life almost 10 years ago…since then he has 9 felonies plus a RAPE of a 12 year old. Judges in Washington thought $15,000 was enough bond for him to be released from jail. Their jails are probably FULL…we have more dangerous criminals running around on our streets than you have a clue, due to prison over population. Why do we have prison over population? Over the years, activists have seen to it that prisoners live better on the inside than they do on the outside. They live better than many law obeying citizens do. Make people responsible for their actions, not in this society…doesn’t happen. “Plug” “Cop”, not only are your comments scary, your word usuage suggests you may be “one of those” on the streets. This isn’t about Huckabee, or even the judges in Washington. It is about a LOW LIFE CRIMINAL who has NO value for human life, no different than the terrorists/radical islamist. They are dirt bags who don’t deserve anything….nothing. And “what” this IS about is four innocent POLICE OFFICERS who lost their lives at the hand of a coward. It is about the officers families. It is about people like YOU who can’t even show respect by calling them Police Officers rather than “cops”. The very people who risk their lives every day for YOU and YOUR FAMILY.
soldevvb posted December 1, 2009 at 10:22 am
Boxlock20,
Hide the decline
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in plain sight.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/Hockey-stick-divergence-problem.html
American_Way
Posted December 1, 2009 at 6:27 am | Permalink
Obama speaks tonight to the sheep. It’s high time. He hasn’t been on the front page for 48 hours, or so.
New policy in Afghanistan or more of the same?
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I bet Obama IGNORES the Northern Front in Afghanistan. I predicted he would in this post:
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/11/open-thread-1127-2/#comment-698559
JimJohnson
Posted November 27, 2009 at 12:07 pm | Permalink
When Obama finally announces his 2nd Plan for Afghanistan, it will be interesting to see IF or HOW he addresses security on the Northern Front of Afghanistan, and other outlying regions.
If the outlying areas are ignored, there can be no victory nor lasting peace in Afghanistan.
Either commit the forces needed to do the job, or get the he11 out of there.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/27/world/asia/27kunduz.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1
Taliban Open Northern Front in Afghanistan
The turnabout vividly demonstrates how security has broken down even in unexpected parts of Afghanistan…
…Even under the most generous deployments now under consideration, relatively few additional troops are expected in the north; most will be directed to the heartland of the Taliban resistance in the south and east.
Afghan and international officials say security never had to deteriorate so badly here. The Taliban were a scattered and defeated force in northern Afghanistan, long home to the strongest anti-Taliban resistance, the Northern Alliance.
But the government, and American military trainers, failed to remain vigilant to signs of Taliban encroachment, and reduced deployments in the northern provinces in order to bolster other, more volatile regions.
The decisions created vulnerabilities as Kunduz became a target with the opening of a new logistics route here for NATO supplies from Russia and Central Asia, over an American-financed bridge that opened in 2007. The route is supposed to serve as a strategic alternative to the treacherous passage through Pakistan, which is regularly attacked by Taliban militants.
Now, the Taliban have re-emerged with such force that during the presidential election in August, police officers were fending off attacks on the outskirts of the city of Kunduz, and militants were poised to overrun the center, officials said.
“The Taliban were at the door of the city; the people thought the government was at an end,” said a senior security official, who asked not to be named because of the nature of his work.
Since then, the threat has been somewhat contained after an operation by NATO and Afghan forces, but the province remains at risk.
The Scientists Involved in Deliberately Deceiving the World on Climate
As analyzed in our social network, there is a tightly knit group of individuals who passionately believe in their thesis. However, our perception is that this group has a self-reinforcing feedback mechanism and, moreover, the work has been sufficiently politicized that they can hardly reassess their public positions without losing credibility.”
soldevvb posted December 1, 2009 at 10:53 am
The Scientists Involved in Deliberately Deceiving the World on Climate
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LOL!
Keep searching, soldevvb. But you hurry, because AGW science is becoming stronger every day.
S/B “But you better hurry, . . .”
(Darn multi-tasking.)
By Wayne Allyn Root
December 1, 2009
Las Vegas, Nevada, U.S.A.
Reverse Racism and the Big Obama Con Job
Did you see the announcement of a week ago that Goldman Sachs is giving a half billion dollars to small businesses. Or are they? Why are they suddenly concerned with small business? They’ve certainly never cared about small business before. In the history of Goldman Sachs, what have they ever given to small business? The answer of course is nothing. Why the sudden interest? Could it be because Goldman Sachs has found out that it pays to play ball with President Obama? Could it be because if you do favors for Obama and his friends, you wind up with big bailouts, giant stimulus funds, government contracts…or perhaps avoid prosecution for any alleged crimes or fraud committed in the sub-prime mortgage scandal?
In any case, Goldman Sachs’ announcement was certainly less than honest in its wording. If you read the headline you’d think that Goldman is a hero to America’s small businesses. But the reality (beneath the headline) is that Goldman Sachs is only concerned with one tiny segment of small business — MINORITY-OWNED SMALL BUSINESSES. More specifically — minority businesses located in minority neighborhoods. Even more specifically, Goldman’s loans to minority businesses located in minority neighborhoods will only be disbursed through “community organizations.” Organizations that I’m willing to bet are run by contributors to Obama’s campaigns. Just a guess on my part. Anyone wanna bet?
Interesting timing. Was Goldman forced to play the “race card” by Obama? Was Goldman intimidated by the threat of possible legal prosecution by the SEC or Obama’s Justice Department? Will a half billion dollar (legal) payoff to FOO (Friends of Obama) make the whole mess go away? Even better, will more government contracts, loans and stimulus now head Goldman’s way? Will a measly half billion-dollar loan now result in billions in government largess thrown towards Goldman Sachs? Is this how deals are cut in D.C?
How did I break this code? How did I figure out what the media hasn’t dared mention that the entire half billion dollars is headed to minority-only businesses. Do you speak in “legal-ese?” That’s the language designed by lawyers to fool taxpayers and ordinary citizens. I’m sure Goldman’s Wall Street lawyers and Obama’s government lawyers collaborated for days until they got the wording so confusing that no one would notice the racism in this deal.
If you don’t speak in “legal-ese,” you probably missed the bleeding heart liberal code words in this announcement by Goldman Sachs. They didn’t bother to announce that the half billion dollars was for minority loans only. They said, “Goldman will spend $200 million on education and training programs, while funneling $300 million to so-called community-development financial institutions, which largely serve historically disadvantaged communities that have had trouble accessing capital.” Then they added in the announcement that the loans would be only for businesses in “underserved areas.”
Notice the code words used by liberals and lawyers (I know, I repeat myself) to cover up reverse racism — “historically disadvantaged communities,” “underserved areas,” “community-development financial institutions.” By the way — what the heck is a “community-development financial institution?” Isn’t a financial institution, just a financial institution? Well obviously not in Obama’s race-charged world. Some institutions are better than others…more deserving than others…more “fair” than others in Obama’s world. As long as they descriminate in favor of his politically-correct friends or approved race.
We are not in a recession. We are in a depression. Only small business can lead us out of this mess. Jobs come from small business, not Obama’s friends in big government, big unions, or big business. That’s a economic fact. Yet Obama’s policies do nothing but punish small business with higher taxes, bigger penalties, more onerous rules and regulations. Small businesses continue to go out of business at a record pace. The expiration of the Bush income tax cuts will result in the biggest tax increase in history on small business. Add on universal healthcare taxes, cap and trade taxes, medicare tax increases for the wealthy, health surcharges for the wealthy, a raise in the FICA cap, a VAT tax, a raise in capital gains taxes, and the latest proposed tax — an Afghanistan war tax on the wealthy. It all adds up to Socialism…and a CATASTROPHE for small business owners.
Yet Obama’s only bone thrown to small business is encouraging (i.e. intimidating) Goldman Sachs to give away $500 million to small businesses owned only by minorities, serving only minority neighborhoods, and with money doled out only by Obama’s friends (and campaign contributors) at community activist organizations like ACORN. According to Obama, the rest of us just don’t count. Get used to the new reality of America under Obama — where everything is based on race and the redistribution of income from one out-of-favor group (business owners) to a favored group (those who voted and contributed to Obama). In my book that’s called racism. For President Obama, two wrongs obviously do make a right.
Regards,
Wayne Allyn Root
Study by New Zealand Climate Science Coalition
New Zealand’s data is fudged too. A good look at raw vs cooked temp data.
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/17364
If you won’t stand up to Al-Quida, you’ll bend over for anything!
Cues up ‘Don’t Mess With The USA”.
New CBO report out says premiums at companies will go down 1 to 2%, small bus. getting tax credits will see decline in premiums, middle class americans that pay for their own policies will see a 10 to 11% increase in premiums (I imagine the whole country would see about 10 to 11 % increase if we do nothing.
The stimulus spending for COBRA is expiring, so those getting the help will see premiums skyrocket from about 400 a month to 1100 a month, more to be uninsured shortly.
Shocker 1 will no doubt be shocked that cops refer to themselves as cops!
Must suck to be Huck.
P.S. his bond was 150,000, you put up 10% and a bondsman posts the rest, not sure if he’ll get his money back, but since the got huck’s bud, he might get a refund.
Facts are facts, if huck hadn’t pardoned or commuted his sentence, the shooter would’ve never been eligible for parole.
What global warming data?
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/no_data_no_science_WuhrUqWQ14OcM60pexz3aM
The French disagree. Seems CRU skewed their data too.
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2009/11/26/skewed-science.aspx
Phantom
Posted December 1, 2009 at 11:33 am | Permalink
Shocker 1 will no doubt be shocked that cops refer to themselves as cops!
Must suck to be Huck.
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Love the second person posts…come on Phantom. Black people call themselves “homies”…let a caucasion call a Black Man a “homey” and see what happens. I KNOW Police Officers call themselves “cops”…but where is the respect from the public to call them Police Officers or Law Enforcement Officers. Opppps…more of that politcally correct crap again.
I think shocker is just being a baby now? When did cop become offensive?
Dear President Obama,
Do you really want to be the new “war president”? If you go to West Point tomorrow night (Tuesday, 8pm) and announce that you are increasing, rather than withdrawing, the troops in Afghanistan, you are the new war president. Pure and simple. And with that you will do the worst possible thing you could do — destroy the hopes and dreams so many millions have placed in you. With just one speech tomorrow night you will turn a multitude of young people who were the backbone of your campaign into disillusioned cynics. You will teach them what they’ve always heard is true — that all politicians are alike. I simply can’t believe you’re about to do what they say you are going to do. Please say it isn’t so.
It is not your job to do what the generals tell you to do. We are a civilian-run government. WE tell the Joint Chiefs what to do, not the other way around. That’s the way General Washington insisted it must be. That’s what President Truman told General MacArthur when MacArthur wanted to invade China. “You’re fired!,” said Truman, and that was that. And you should have fired Gen. McChrystal when he went to the press to preempt you, telling the press what YOU had to do. Let me be blunt: We love our kids in the armed services, but we f*#&in’ hate these generals, from Westmoreland in Vietnam to, yes, even Colin Powell for lying to the UN with his made-up drawings of WMD (he has since sought redemption).
So now you feel backed into a corner. 30 years ago this past Thursday (Thanksgiving) the Soviet generals had a cool idea — “Let’s invade Afghanistan!” Well, that turned out to be the final nail in the USSR coffin.
There’s a reason they don’t call Afghanistan the “Garden State” (though they probably should, seeing how the corrupt President Karzai, whom we back, has his brother in the heroin trade raising poppies). Afghanistan’s nickname is the “Graveyard of Empires.” If you don’t believe it, give the British a call. I’d have you call Genghis Khan but I lost his number. I do have Gorbachev’s number though. It’s + 41 22 789 1662. I’m sure he could give you an earful about the historic blunder you’re about to commit.
With our economic collapse still in full swing and our precious young men and women being sacrificed on the altar of arrogance and greed, the breakdown of this great civilization we call America will head, full throttle, into oblivion if you become the “war president.” Empires never think the end is near, until the end is here. Empires think that more evil will force the heathens to toe the line — and yet it never works. The heathens usually tear them to shreds.
Choose carefully, President Obama. You of all people know that it doesn’t have to be this way. You still have a few hours to listen to your heart, and your own clear thinking. You know that nothing good can come from sending more troops halfway around the world to a place [Michael Moore calls Obama ignorant] neither you nor they understand, to achieve an objective that neither you nor they understand, in a country that does not want us there. You can feel it in your bones.
I know you know that there are LESS than a hundred al-Qaeda left in Afghanistan! A hundred thousand troops trying to crush a hundred guys living in caves? Are you serious? Have you drunk Bush’s Kool-Aid? I refuse to believe it.
Your potential decision to expand the war (while saying that you’re doing it so you can “end the war”) will do more to set your legacy in stone than any of the great things you’ve said and done in your first year. One more throwing a bone from you to the Republicans and the coalition of the hopeful and the hopeless may be gone — and this nation will be back in the hands of the haters quicker than you can shout “tea bag!”
Choose carefully, Mr. President. Your corporate backers are going to abandon you as soon as it is clear you are a one-term president and that the nation will be safely back in the hands of the usual idiots who do their bidding. That could be Wednesday morning.
We the people still love you. We the people still have a sliver of hope. But we the people can’t take it anymore. We can’t take your caving in, over and over, when we elected you by a big, wide margin of millions to get in there and get the job done. What part of “landslide victory” don’t you understand?
Don’t be deceived into thinking that sending a few more troops into Afghanistan will make a difference, or earn you the respect of the haters. They will not stop until this country is torn asunder and every last dollar is extracted from the poor and soon-to-be poor. You could send a million troops over there and the crazy Right still wouldn’t be happy. You would still be the victim of their incessant venom on hate radio and television because no matter what you do, you can’t change the one thing about yourself that sends them over the edge.
The haters were not the ones who elected you, and they can’t be won over by abandoning the rest of us.
President Obama, it’s time to come home. Ask your neighbors in Chicago and the parents of the young men and women doing the fighting and dying if they want more billions and more troops sent to Afghanistan. Do you think they will say, “No, we don’t need health care, we don’t need jobs, we don’t need homes. You go on ahead, Mr. President, and send our wealth and our sons and daughters overseas, ’cause we don’t need them, either.”
What would Martin Luther King, Jr. do? [This is rich:] What would your grandmother do? Not send more poor people to kill other poor people who pose no threat to them, that’s what they’d do. Not spend billions and trillions to wage war while American children are sleeping on the streets and standing in bread lines.
All of us that voted and prayed for you and cried the night of your victory have endured an Orwellian hell of eight years of crimes committed in our name: torture, rendition, suspension of the bill of rights, invading nations who had not attacked us, blowing up neighborhoods that Saddam “might” be in (but never was), slaughtering wedding parties in Afghanistan. We watched as hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians were slaughtered and tens of thousands of our brave young men and women were killed, maimed, or endured mental anguish — the full terror of which we scarcely know.
When we elected you we didn’t expect miracles. We didn’t even expect much change. But we expected some. We thought you would stop the madness. Stop the killing. Stop the insane idea that men with guns can reorganize a nation that doesn’t even function as a nation and never, ever has.
Stop, stop, stop! For the sake of the lives of young Americans and Afghan civilians, stop. For the sake of your presidency, hope, and the future of our nation, stop. For God’s sake, stop.
Tonight we still have hope.
Tomorrow, we shall see. The ball is in your court. You DON’T have to do this. You can be a profile in courage. You can be your mother’s son [sniffling].
We’re counting on you.
Yours,
Michael Moore
(AKA Democrats front leader)
Climate Crooks try to go around that “national sovereignty” problem.
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/113009_IISDreport.pdf
“Phantom
Posted December 1, 2009 at 11:30 am | Permalink
New CBO report out says premiums at companies will go down 1 to 2%”
– For millions of American families, the cost of health insurance premiums will increase $2,100 a year under the Democratic health care bill now being debated in the U.S. Senate.
That’s according to an analysis conducted by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and the staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation (JTO).
The CBO-JCT analysis of Sen. Harry Reid’s bill found that people buying their own health insurance policies on government-run exchanges – as they will be required to do if they lack coverage through work — will see their premiums increase by up to 13 percent in 2016, the year in which the Senate bill takes full effect.
For people purchasing their own insurance on government-run exchanges, “Average premiums per policy …in 2016 would be roughly $5,800 for single policies and $15,200 for family policies under the proposal, compared with roughly $5,500 for single policies and $13,100 for family policies under current law.”
Put another way, under Reid’s bill, a family in 2016 would pay $15,200 for an insurance plan, up $2,100 from the $13,100 they currently pay.”
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/57820
5/6 of the market is under the employer provided coverage and costs would go down, or possibly up by 1%.
The private plans (the other 1/6) would have over half of insureds receiving subsidies.
I have a feeling if you don’t qualify for subidies because your income’s too high, you’re not going to be hurt by the extra 10 to 13% increase.
TomPaine
Posted December 1, 2009 at 12:06 pm | Permalink
I think shocker is just being a baby now? When did cop become offensive
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Mr. Paine,
Would love to show you what kind of a “baby” I am : ) Unlike yourself, I happen to believe in respect…something that you wouldn’t begin to be able to understand. You are probably under 40 years old would be my guess.
Obama’s going to say that troops will start leaving Afhan. by 2011, I’d hate to be binnie, his days are numbered!
Phantom
Posted December 1, 2009 at 1:43 pm | Permalink
Obama’s going to say that troops will start leaving Afhan. by 2011, I’d hate to be binnie, his days are numbered!
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Hope you are right Phantom. The ONLY reason we should be there and sending more troops is if the “plan” is to let our soldiers fight and find Bin Laden FULL force!! NOTHING held back…fight it to win and destroy Bin Laden in the process. Send a STRONG message, those countries who harbor terrorists WILL be the enemy and will pay for it, swiftly and without second thought.
Oh LOOK.
“Regular” has a new nic.
bluejay prove it you jerk.
BlueJay just needs to prove he is a jerk.
He can do that without even trying.
GM sales dip in November
http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/article/20091201/NEWS03/312010014/-1/nletter02/GM-sales-dip-in-November?source=nletter-news
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Whaaaaaaaaaaat?
You mean C4C had a negative impact on the auto makers? Now whoda seen that coming?
From the NY Times –
“In November, Car Sales Show Signs of Stability
By NICK BUNKLEY 15 minutes ago
New-vehicle sales figures for November show the auto industry’s recovery is gaining momentum, albeit slowly.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/02/business/02auto.html?hp
Climategate: Follow the Money
Climate change researchers must believe in the reality of global warming just as a priest must believe in the existence of God.
Last year, ExxonMobil donated $7 million to a grab-bag of public policy institutes, including the Aspen Institute, the Asia Society and Transparency International. It also gave a combined $125,000 to the Heritage Institute and the National Center for Policy Analysis, two conservative think tanks that have offered dissenting views on what until recently was called—without irony—the climate change “consensus.”….
Consider the case of Phil Jones, the director of the CRU and the man at the heart of climategate. According to one of the documents hacked from his center, between 2000 and 2006 Mr. Jones was the recipient (or co-recipient) of some $19 million worth of research grants, a sixfold increase over what he’d been awarded in the 1990s.
Thus, the European Commission’s most recent appropriation for climate research comes to nearly $3 billion, and that’s not counting funds from the EU’s member governments. In the U.S., the House intends to spend $1.3 billion on NASA’s climate efforts, $400 million on NOAA’s, and another $300 million for the National Science Foundation. The states also have a piece of the action, with California—apparently not feeling bankrupt enough—devoting $600 million to their own climate initiative. In Australia, alarmists have their own Department of Climate Change at their funding disposal.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703939404574566124250205490.html?mod=rss_Today%27s_Most_Popular
Climate change head change steps down.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9CAM0VG0&show_article=1
WSJ: The AGW bubble is about to crumble
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/01/wsj-the-agw-bubble-is-about-to-crumble/
Climategate: Penn State Professor Mann under investigation
http://www.examiner.com/x-11224-Baltimore-Weather-Examiner~y2009m11d30-Climategate-Penn-State-Professor-Mann-under-investigation
First day of December and STILL no hard freeze….
First time in my life I ever seen it go this late.
But Donn,
Didn’t you get the memo?
LOL!
Keep searching, soldevvb. But you hurry, because AGW science is becoming stronger every day.
BlueJay
Posted December 1, 2009 at 3:09 pm | Permalink
First day of December and STILL no hard freeze….
First time in my life I ever seen it go this late.
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BJ proves that he thinks the world revolves around his aZs.
WHOA! That is big news, MonkeyH.
Thanks for the post.
Another former reich-wing now rejoins the sane, along with David Brock “Blinded by the Right,” Michael Lind, Andrew Sullivan, Arianna Huffington, Scott McClelland.
Climategate: Follow the Money . . . because Big Oil like the Koch Bros. only want the truth to be told . . .
Yeah, right.
soldevvb posted December 1, 2009 at 11:17 am
Study by New Zealand Climate Science Coalition
New Zealand’s data is fudged too. A good look at raw vs cooked temp data.
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“Fudged”?
soldevvb, please EXPLAIN WHY you believe that temperature measurements from DIFFERENT sites should be treated as if they came from the SAME site.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/11/hacked-files-could-raise-doubts-about-global-warming/#comment-698526
soldevvb seems to believe that he knows more about climate science than climate scientists — so it’ll be easy for him to explain WHY data from MOVED sites should be treated as if the sites were NOT moved.
Donn must have missed my post yesterday RE: Mao.
The “Great Helsman” was much more of a CON than a Lib when it came to the environment–regarding population control for the world’s biggest country he said: “the more the better.” This incredibly selfish outlook doubled the population of China to 800 million before he died, putting immense pressure on the environment.
The old Taoist respect for nature (see “feng shui”) was derided as “superstition” and utterly rejected. Inefficient steel mills were set up in small towns, poisoning the air. Northwest China was so denuded of trees that Beijing residents have to wear dust masks to breathe. Today, China produces so much pollution from coal that it’s actually poisoning California air.
Mao oversaw the destruction of natural habitat for his “Great Leap Forward” and drove the Chinese tiger and the Giant panda to the brink of extinction.
You should call yourself DonnMao. You’re much more similar to Mao’s view of exploiting the environment than Cosmos is . . .
donndublin posted December 1, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Climategate: Penn State Professor Mann under investigation
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Dr. Mann’s “trick” didn’t do very good job of “hiding the decline”.
‘The hockey stick divergence problem ‘
http://www.skepticalscience.com/Hockey-stick-divergence-problem.html
Head of Climate Research Unit Quits!
The director of the embattled Climatic Research Unit (CRU) in the United Kingdom is stepping down pending an investigation into allegations that he overstated the case for man-made climate change.
In a statement posted to its Web site, the University of East Anglia says Phil Jones will relinquish his position until the completion of an independent review into allegations that he worked to alter the way in which global temperature data was presented.
(more at Fox News)
The Palin idiocy CONtinues:
As the epigram to Chapter Three, “Drill, Baby, Drill,” Palin assigns the following remarks to the Hall of Fame hoops coach, John Wooden:
Our land is everything to us… I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember our grandfathers paid for it–with their lives.
Only the quote wasn’t by John Wooden. It was written by a Native American activist named John Wooden Legs in an essay entitled “Back on the War Ponies,” which appeared in a left-wing anthology, We Are the People: Voices from the Other Side of American History, edited by Nathaniel May, Clint Willis, and James W. Loewen.
Here’s the full quote:
Our land is everything to us. It is the only place in the world where Cheyennes talk the Cheyenne language to each other. It is the only place where Cheyennes remember the same things together. I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember our grandfathers paid for it–with their life. My people and the Sioux defeated General Custer at the Little Big Horn.
Good giddling gosh! She put this into print! With HER NAME on the cover!
There’s no there there. The lights are on, but nobody’s home. She’s a bag of fries shy of a happy meal. She’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer. She wonders why deer only cross at those yellow signs.
Unbelievable.
Climate Scientist calls CRU conduct shameful
The loss of the data prevents other scientists from checking it to determine whether, in fact, there has been a long-term rise in global temperatures during the past century and a half.
“They are making scientific progress more difficult now,” says Willie Soon, a physicist, astronomer and climate researcher at the solar and stellar physics division of the Harvard University-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics. “This is a shameful, dark day for science,” he said in an interview with FoxNews.com.
Fox News
Getting basketball coach John Wooden CONfused with American Indian writer John Wooden Legs . . . yeah, it’s an honest mistake.
An honest mistake that somebody who has no interest in actual facts could easily make.
HLP
Posted December 1, 2009 at 7:16 am | Permalink
I’m offically a pacifist.
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How long have you been a pacifist?
Wow, Fox News is going to sue Regular for copyright infringement . . .
Is there anything over there that your AREN’T going to cut-and-paste here?
Al Gore – The GORACLE’s StuPID statments:
Oct. 25 2000 JACKSON, Tenn. (Reuters) — Criticizing Bush’s Social Security privatization plan at a rally in Tennessee, Gore said, “He is proposing to privatize a big part of Social Security and he’s proposing to take $1 trillion, a million billion dollars out of the Social Security trust fund and give it as a tax incentive to young workers.”
A trillion is one thousand billion, not a million billion.
And the GORACLE wants us to believe the pseudo science he preaches?
“A zebra does not change its spots.” – Al Gore, attacking President George Bush in 1992.
(Sources: The Toronto Sun, 11/19/95; May 13th page of the “365 stupidest things ever said, 1999 Calendar.” ALL quotes from this calendar are from a book called “The 700 Stupidest Things Ever Said”) The book and calendar are by a brother and sister team called Ross and Kathryn Petras. The original book “The 776 Stupidest things ever said” was printed in March 1993, and the calendar was printed August 1998.)
Who ARE these people??
Al Gore (Algore) asking who the busts of our Founding Fathers are at Monticello before the Inauguration. DUH (71k)
I like the last one the best. Shows just how clueless Duh GORACLE and his followers actually are.
Did Gore WRITE those mistakes into a published book, Regular?
No?
Then you got nothing.
Regular posted December 1, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Climate Scientist calls CRU conduct shameful
The loss of the data prevents other scientists from checking it . . .
. . .
Fox News
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It seems that Dr. Willie Soon, the infamous AGW science denier, and Fox News(sic) don’t know that the original raw data was not lost. Or maybe they’re just lying?
Here you go CapnKnothead:
– quotations and sources found on this page:
http://www.gargaro.com/algore.html
Regular,
Have you published your science paper that refutes the AGW theory?
Capn: I did my homework and found a site where any well meaning person could have gotten the Wooden quote. I’m sure you didn’t do that , but instead read how stupid Palin was at some left wing blog and couldn’t wait to tell everyone. Knee jerk.
“Our land is everything to us… I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it – with their lives.”
John Wooden quote
http://thinkexist.com/quotes/john_wooden/4.html
cosmos_originally
Posted December 1, 2009 at 4:34 pm | Permalink
Regular posted December 1, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Climate Scientist calls CRU conduct shameful
The loss of the data prevents other scientists from checking it . . .
. . .
Fox News
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It seems that Dr. Willie Soon, the infamous AGW science denier, and Fox News(sic) don’t know that the original raw data was not lost. Or maybe they’re just lying?
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Then where is it cosMAO?
It’s certainly not at Hadley CRU where those pseudo scientists are making a claim of AGW, but yet they have no original data to back it up in their files.
That’s the point dufus, spin it all you want.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms.htm
Regular,
Go spin GHCN. Dr. Soon should know about it.
But the greatest college BB coach of all time has some other memorable quotes.
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Don’t measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.
Material possessions, winning scores, and great reputations are meaningless in the eyes of the Lord, because He knows what we really are and that is all that matters.
Success is never final, failure is never fatal. It’s courage that counts.
There are many things that are essential to arriving at true peace of mind, and one of the most important is faith, which cannot be acquired without prayer.
You can’t live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you.
John Wooden
Too late cosmos, the head f@g at CRU quit and is going into hiding until the court gets a hold of him to try him for conspiracy to commit massive global fraud.
Emphasis added to assist those with vision problems caused by a stroke.
“In a statement posted to its Web site, the University of East Anglia says Phil Jones will relinquish his position UNTIL the completion of an independent review into allegations. . .”
Another web site with the Wooden quote. 2 out of 3 I’ve checked so far.
“Our land is everything to us… I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it – with their lives.”
http://www.basketball-plays-and-tips.com/john-wooden-quotes.html
I’m not sure, “outlander” –
How legitimate John Wooden quotations somehow justify a big ass glaring mistake in the Moose Dresser’s book.
But if it works for you….
It’s silly and it’s tangential but fascinating how Bible Spice’s “grueling 3,000 mile bus tour” to promote Going Rogue has Caribou Barbie lounging on a $4,000-an-hour Gulfstream.
Another. I guess she was supposed to ask Coach Wooden if he really said that.
http://www.quotesdaddy.com/author/John+Wooden/5
Regular posted December 1, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Too late cosmos, the head f@g at CRU quit and is going into hiding until the court gets a hold of him to try him for conspiracy to commit massive global fraud.
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Don’t worry Regular. . . the review will probably be over quickly, and he will resume his position soon.
http://www.firstpeople.us/FP-Html-Wisdom/JohnWoodenLegs.html
cosMAO writes: Don’t worry Regular. . . the review will probably be over quickly, and he will resume his position soon.
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Good, then the investigation in the U.S. controlled sites can begin from the Senate.
Ol’ “Regular” posted –
“Too late cosmos, the head f@g at CRU quit….”
Who’s writing your material these days?
Phred Felps?
Jones also did not “quit” — he still remains on the staff at CRU.
f@g – To function as the servant of another student in a British public school. British
CapnAmerica
Posted December 1, 2009 at 3:57 pm | Permalink
Donn must have missed my post yesterday RE: Mao.
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Capn,
I didn’t miss much. I’m sure you are very familiar with your big-gov political ideology comrade. However cosmo’s cap and tax scheme will do no more for the environment than Mao did. Cosmao sure dosn’t care much that Mao’s homeland continues to be the world’s biggest polluter.
I on the other hand have made a good living from making a positive impact on the environment. More than you and cosmos both have done in five lifetimes.
Continue to use that red-herring of polluter = AGW skeptic = holocaust “denier”. It will only make your argument even more illogical.
donndublin,
Do you enjoy lying about what I’ve posted?
cosmos_originally
Posted December 1, 2009 at 5:49 pm | Permalink
donndublin,
Do you enjoy lying about what I’ve posted?
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Just like you lie, distort and spin everyone else’s post that doesn’t bend down and kiss the watermelon fannie of the GORACLE.
Wrote a little song for Huckabee, maybe he’ll play it next time he’s in town:
Oh my darling
Oh my darling,
Why’d I ever cut Clemmon’s time,
My Candidacy, Thou
is lost, gone forever,
Dreadful sorry I cut
Clemmon’s time!
May have to work on some more versus
Phantom, keep up the good work. I’m sure there is some hillbilly radio station out in Nowhere’s Vil, Kansas that if you could find one – might play it.
Take your harmonica, so your tune can be heard over the chickens.
It’d be better in Huck’s Arkie twang, and he does play the gittar.
He was dark,
some say a miner,
but, I knew they
meant minor, so
I pardoned
Clemmon’s time!
“After all, concluding that an issue is negligible or nonexistent means the end of such grants.”
WSJ on AGW…………….
Phantom,
I have a friend in Amerstdam, Missouri. He says the most excitement on a Saturday night downtown are the dogs breeding in the middle of the street corner.
Is your village like that?
Less than an hour and you liberals will finally know what you believe in, regarding the Afghanistan War.
Won’t that be a relief?
It’ll be a revelation to the world.
Like cold water to a thirsty soul,
so is fresh koolaid from afar……….
Do you libs have to reboot after downloading your new beliefs into your brain?
American_Way posted December 1, 2009 at 6:27 pm
“After all, concluding that an issue is negligible or nonexistent means the end of such grants.”
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AGW is definitely neither negligible nor non-existent, and deserves the funding.
CONS should listen to Obama’s speech, so they quote it correctly later… :-))
I’m sure this is old news, but then I just got here and think it quite relevant.
Climate scientist at center of e-mail controversy to step down
A scientist who is one of the central figures in the controversy over hacked e-mails from the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit announced Tuesday that he is stepping down while the university investigates the incident.
“Climate skeptics have seized on several e-mails from Phil Jones, director of the university’s Climatic Research Unit, to other researchers as evidence that prominent scientists have sought to silence their voice in the debate over global warming. The e-mails were pirated and posted online last month.”
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust
Hey, I’m gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust
And there will be more…bet on it.
boxlock20 posted December 1, 2009 at 7:06 pm
“Climate skeptics have seized on several e-mails from Phil Jones, director of the university’s Climatic Research Unit, to other researchers as evidence that prominent scientists have sought to silence their voice in the debate over global warming. The e-mails were pirated and posted online last month.”
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust
Hey, I’m gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust
And there will be more…bet on it.
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LOL!
Great irony there, boxlock20.
BTW: Jones is still at CRU. He only temporarily stepped down from the Director position.
Dead meat cosmos….your ‘peer reviewed scientist lord’ is dead meat.
Michael Crichton knew a lil’ sum’um sum’um:
http://www.crichton-official.com/essay-stateoffear-whypoliticizedscienceisdangerous.html
“BTW: Jones is still at CRU. He only temporarily stepped down from the Director position.”
With a four day workweek, they kept him on to work the shredder machines. Hard to find quality workers these days.
Howie Dean admits a merger of capitalism and socialism is underway.
Duuuuhhh.
http://www.wral.com/golo/blogpost/6526263/
Investigate, climate change. I should hope.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/57879
Boxlock20 posted December 1, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Dead meat cosmos….your ‘peer reviewed scientist lord’ is dead meat.
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boxlock20,
And what are you going to do if/when Jones resumes the Director position?
Your ‘climategate’ may help cause some short-term confusion — but in the end it will backfire on you.
It will help prove that you AGW science deniers don’t have any credible science, and don’t have any credibility.
With the entire world reacting like the sky is falling on the skewed now revealed as unscientific reports from the academic community, it is time for the CIA and NSA to get all the communications from the false reporting of fake scientists – which has already resulted in billions of wasted spending by many nations.
Speaking from a scientific point of view, this investigation into false reporting should just be beginning.
Wish in one hand and sh__ in the other James.
See which one gets full first.
Gimp.
American_Way posted December 1, 2009 at 10:09 pm
. . . it is time for the CIA and NSA to get all the communications from the false reporting of fake scientists. . .
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Let’s investigate the AGW science denier’s communications and calculations!
American_Way,
Speaking from a scientific point of view. . .
If a temperature station is moved to a different location, should the temperature changes caused by a different altitude, and other factors, be ignored?
Should a scientific paper state a conclusion, but NOT provide any data to support that conclusion?
“Should a scientific paper state a conclusion, but NOT provide any data to support that conclusion?”
Of course not! According to political scientists the data should be destroyed entirely, and any comments made on it not allowed into peer reviewed publications.
American_Way posted December 1, 2009 at 10:29 pm
“Should a scientific paper state a conclusion, but NOT provide any data to support that conclusion?”
Of course not! According to political scientists the data should be destroyed entirely, and any comments made on it not allowed into peer reviewed publications.
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According to AGW denier scientists, the data should not even be provided.
That’s easy and fast — the AGW science deniers don’t need to destroy what they don’t provide.
That’s ignoring the fact that the data doesn’t exist, and data that doesn’t exist can’t be destroyed.
my monicker is valerie
found this forum while searching looking for grants.
hope i can cure you guys also.