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Obama can’t be bothered by Islamic terrorism
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/obama_can_be_bothered_by_islamic_loKKYSELYC4rtNFCDtot9M
“51 casualties, including 13 dead, were insufficient to drag President Obama away from the White House Happy Hour.
We just saw the worst terror attack on America since 9/11. And Obama couldn’t adjust his schedule to support our grieving troops.
Instead, we got his subtle defense of the perp: Unwilling to use the word “terror,” let alone the phrase “Islamist terror,” Obama warned us not to “rush to judgment.”
A Muslim fanatic, known to the FBI as a fan of suicide bombers and to colleagues as an opponent of our government, coolly buys weapons, heads to a military facilityhe knows will be packed with unsuspecting soldiers, waits for the crowd to thicken, then shouts, “Allah is great!” and guns down 51 patriots, calmly reloading among the dead and dying.
But don’t rush to judgment.
Imagine if, instead of Fort Hood, the massacre had gone down at a mosque in Detroit — carried out by a maddened Christian or Jew. Obama would’ve been aboard Air Force One before the pilots had time to file a flight plan and he would’ve been on site before the gun smoke cleared, hugging and boo-hooing and dispensing stirring rhetoric for the evening news……”
9/11 link in Ft. Hood slay spree
Killer prayed at mosque with hijackers
Army massacre fiend Nidal Malik Hasan attended a Virginia mosque at the same time as two of the 9/11 hijackers — and the FBI is now investigating whether there is a connection between the men, an official confirmed yesterday.
Maj. Hasan — the Army psychiatrist accused of fatally shooting 13 people and wounding 29 others at Fort Hood in Texas on Thursday — had held his mother’s funeral at the Dar al Hijrah Islamic Center in Falls Church, Va., in May 2001.
The mosque’s imam at the time was the ultraradical Anwar Aulaqi, thought to have ties to Osama bin Laden.
http://nypostonline.com/p/news/national/link_in_ft_hood_slay_spree_DxTQPcEWvdr8WBocxSgNUI
Oh no….it’s not Islamic Terrorism (?)
Can we “jump to conclusions” about this terrorist yet and…. CALL HIM A TERRORIST?
Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-shooter-contact-al-qaeda-terrorists-officials/story?id=9030873
“U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News. “
Nathaniel,
I was just about to post the same article you just did, thanks for getting it up.
What the he11 is going on in this country with our lack of security follow up and lack of enforcing our boarders. It makes no sense, unless there is some sinister agenda, which I am starting to wonder about.
There’s been a collosial security failure somewhere along the line. The military is usually pretty good about spoting this kind of behaviour. I’d think that with as many times as he was reported for islamist extremeism, there would have been alarms going off all over the place.
Sounds to me like the guy is a nutcase. Terrorist? A point could be made that anybody that would walk in and open fire on a bunch of unarmed people is a Terrorist.
All we need now is to find Hasan picture attending a Tea party and then we would have the “perfect terror suspect” for all Political ideologies. Is he a Islamic terrorist? It seem would seem to be the case, but then the way news works. They run more for the smoke then the fire, right now its guilt by association then real stated proof.
Can we “jump to conclusions” about this terrorist yet and…. CALL HIM A TERRORIST?
Your turns of phrase speaks volumes about your “thinking.”
No, jumping to conclusions is never a good idea. Suppose Hasan had been a blond-haired, decorated Gulf War veteran who loudly declared his patriotism and love for America? A very prominent terrorist met that description.
His name was Timothy McVeigh.
The next time a blond-haired, blue-eyed serviceman snaps, shall we assume he’s a terrorist?
By most accounts, this guy was a disturbed individual who only recently became a religious fanatic and went over the edge. The article said he “attempted to contact” Al-Qaeda, and has not been confirmed. At present we have yet to have evidence that his attack was anything more than, from his warped view, very personal retaliation against those who gave a hard time for his radical views.
In short, no different than the nuts who shoot up post offices.
But I realize you types long for a return of the Bush administration’s racist state terrorism and the general climate of persecuting Muslims, which destroyed the lives of countless innocent people. One of the first victims of 9-11 “retaliation” was a Sikh gas station owner in Mesa, killed by a guy named Frank Roque, who called himself a “patriot.” Sikhs are neither Arabs nor Muslims, and have nothing to do with terrorism. But they wear turbans.
Given the common behavior of such lunatics in our society–with people like Sean Hannity and Lou Dobbs cheering them on–it would be irresponsible not to remember that millions of American Muslims have nothing to do with terrorism.
Please remember your words of “caution” when a self professed “Christian” goes off the deep end and kills someone, like Dr. George Tiller.
The hyperbole of who is a terrorist and who isn’t really is unimportant in the Fort Hood incident.
Major Hasan took a oath when he accepted his commission as an officer in the United States Army.
The UCMJ is very clear. After a Courts-Martial and the decision of the convening panel, Major Hasan will have his fate sealed.
The charges for sure will vary. I have confidence though that the outcome will remain the same despite the arm-flailing and self-identifying ‘poor Muslims’ supporters.
The courts martial will be sterile and without assignment of prejudice.
Hasan will meet justice and justice will be served up in a traditional military manner.
Assuming his efforts at contacting al qaeda are true and known, I wonder if he was being watched as a terror possibility and did the deed unexpectedly? If not, why not?
Please remember your words of “caution” when a self professed “Christian” goes off the deep end and kills someone, like Dr. George Tiller.
I unquestionably did, and will in the future.
“Suppose Hasan had been a blond-haired, decorated Gulf War veteran who loudly declared his patriotism and love for America? A very prominent terrorist met that description.
His name was Timothy McVeigh.
The next time a blond-haired, blue-eyed serviceman snaps, shall we assume he’s a terrorist?”—Rage
Of course McVeigh was a terrorist. Just as this Muslim who gave plenty of warning is a terrorist.
And a traitor….whos offense is punishable by death…and quick I hope.
Look at page 32 of this PDF. It’s from the DHS and it’s entitled:
“Thinking Anew-Security Priorities for the Next Administration” April 2008-January 2009
http://gwumc.edu/hspi/old/PTTF_ProceedingsReport_05.19.09.pdf
LOOK AT THE NAME OF THE PARTICIPANTS. The guy had clearance enough to help the POTUS transition (obviously after he “prayed with the hijackers”).
Give me a break.
This thing STINKS.
Just like 9/11 STINKS.
But if coincidence rules the day, so be it. It’s not surprising in an insane country.
boxlock20 posted November 8, 2009 at 9:56 pm
I didn’t bring up your continual annoying challenges to meet, and my finally punking you for it. No…I think that little pi&&-ant yappy dog cosmos did. I just responded with the facts.
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Actually boxlock20 brought the issue up first, when she/he blamed BlueJay for causing her/him (boxlock20) to lie.
boxlock20 doesn’t believe in personal responsibility.
Pleefer,
Not sure what you are driving at. I’ve seen some websites try to claim that Hasan was part of the ‘Obama Transition Team. That doesn’t ring true because the task force was seated in April of 2008 and the membership would have been the same even if McCain had won.
Also, in the PDF you linked to, Hasan is listed along with about 300 other task force participants.
Am I missing your point?
“Tolerance” and “Political Correctness” kill.
A number of people within the military were concerned about this guy….
…..but said nothing for fear of being labeled “intolerant” of Muslims.
Can’t be “jumping to conclusions”.
Hindsight is always 120 X 120 after the fact, there were so many glaring clues and indications that 9-11 was going to happen that is after it happened! Before it they were just disjointed occurrences and incidents.
After a school shooting there are the reports of face book posts and the spoken words of the suspect to others. Outlining the intended shootings and the plan, so why is it after the fact that anyone notices?
If someone on this blog goes on a shooting rampage tomorrow, who wants to bet that the authorities could find something here that would point to them having planned to do it? Words posted and thoughts expressed.
So what should be done today, should everyone be suspect of the future crime?
We are all capable of it, one of the most common phrases said by the suspect who is convicted of 1st degree murder. Where part of the evidence against them was their statement of “ I am going to kill them!”.
Is “I was just kidding around!”.
Perhaps this world would be a lot easier to live in if we all suspected everyone and everything.
But then of course you would not want to go anywhere as that might be the place where you get killed.
You would never want to interact with another because that maybe the one who is plotting to kill you.
Believe me when I say more then once I have questioned to myself the real sanity of one or the other posters here. What they are really capable of doing and should there be a real concern about them.
Good post Writer,BTW how’s the son doing?
Should be back in the States by the 10th of this month. LOL but if N.C. was not far enough away.
Now he is planning on being stationed in Germany for 4 years! I thought it was the Navy who said
“Join the Navy and see the world!”.
He said once he is back the daily text messages will start again. Funny what you really miss when they are away. Recently I was cleaning my desk and found a picture of him and I when he was about four or five. Fooking hard to believe today looking at that picture!
There have not been said in the last four thousand years. A word or words that truly express how proud of him I am.
Thanks Freebird
There have not been said in the last four thousand years. A word or words that truly express how proud of him I am.
Being the father of a vet I undersatand fully what you mean.
Have you noticed the clear pattern formed by Obama & Co?
1. Announce the Roll-out of a New Program To Save America
2. Not have any detailed plans or realistic roll-out timeframes
3. Making unreasonable demands on private business to roll-out the program ANY WHICH WAY THEY CAN. (Just for show, so Obama can claim he did something)
4. Failure: Spending more Gov’t Money without solving any problems.
(You suppose Obama enrolled at Harvard, then self-declared that he graduated with honors, without actually going to school?)
Daniel, anything that I have or ever will post here is generally beyond Obama or Bush or McCain or whomever from whatever party affiliation.
My point is that the the water is so muddied at this point and conclusions have already been drawn and that the guy graduated from the same GD two pistol shooter school as Seung-Hui Cho (there must be something in the water out there). How many shooting rampages have happened ever since we started shoving anti-depressants down peoples’ throats? And I’m very certain that this Hasan guy was self-medicating himself.
Even though this guy is “speaking” now, we’ll never get the story.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IL61yoWnk4
Let’s hear the story of those two who were picked up as suspects by men in suits in Crown Victoria’s. Can we hear from them?
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/05/texas.fort.hood.witnesses/
Doesn anyone really care about the truth? Or just whatever fits into their little boxes of understanding?
Obama Administration Announces New Plan to Help State & Local Housing Agencies
Administration Will Provide Mortgage Help to Hundreds of Thousands of Homeowners
By MATTHEW JAFFE
Oct. 19, 2009
The Obama administration today announced a new effort to help battered state and local housing agencies provide mortgage help to hundreds of thousands of homeowners.
The administration said the new plan will help keep mortgage rates low, and increase resources for low and middle income borrowers to buy or rent homes.
“This initiative is crucial to helping working families maintain access to affordable rental housing and homeownership in tough economic times,” Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner said in a statement. “Through the years, many low and moderate income Americans have been well served by state and local HFAs, but the housing downturn has hit these organizations too.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/obama-administration-announces-mortgage-plan/story?id=8864497
(3 Weeks Later – Assistance Program A Bust!)
Assistance Limited For HFAs
Purchase Program Oversubscribed
November 4, 2009
By Peter Schroeder
WASHINGTON — Treasury Department officials are warning state and local housing finance agencies that the Obama administration’s recently unveiled temporary bond purchase program is oversubscribed and that agencies will likely receive less assistance than they requested as a result.
The officials issued the warning late last week and asked the HFAs to identify their peak years of issuance from 2004 to 2008 for both single-family and multifamily issues to help determine how much they should receive under the relief program. The agencies had to provide that information to the Treasury by noon on Monday, including Cusip numbers or other ways to verify the information.
(One Week to Comply!!!!!!)
The scale-back comes after Michael Barr, Treasury assistant secretary for financial institutions, last month declined to put a dollar amount on the program and instead told reporters it would be sized to “meet demand.”
“We felt it is important to build estimates for the program from the ground up,” Barr said during an Oct. 19 press conference when the temporary New Issue Bond Program, or NIBP, was announced. Barr said at the time that there would be some form of ceiling on the size of the programs, but did not give any specifics.
http://www.bondbuyer.com/issues/118_212/hfa-1003449-1.html
Another Freddie Mac Buyout!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOVEMBER 7, 2009
Freddie to Request Further Handouts
Freddie Mac said it didn’t need any additional federal aid for the second straight quarter as it reported a loss of $6.3 billion for the third quarter on Friday.
But the company said it expected to ask for more handouts from the U.S. Treasury in the future as rising unemployment and falling home prices continue to drive higher credit-related losses for both Freddie and its larger rival, Fannie Mae.
Together with Fannie Mae, which said on Thursday it would need a $15 billion capital injection, the tab for the U.S. government’s bailout of both mortgage-finance giants has climbed over the past year to $112 billion, making it one of the costliest government interventions ever to stabilize housing and financial markets.
The U.S. Treasury has agreed to provide as much as $200 billion in capital to each company by buying preferred stock that pays 10% dividends. Regulators took control of Fannie and Freddie through a legal process known as conservatorship 14 months ago.
Both companies have posted losses over the past year as they build up reserves to handle rising volumes of bad loans. Freddie posted credit-related losses of $7.6 billion, compared to $22 billion for Fannie.
The third-quarter loss narrowed from a net loss of $25.3 billion in the same period last year. (Good news! Not losing as much as before!)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125755468595835091.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
One Buyout leads to –> Another Buyout
Leads to solving the problem? Noooooo!!!!!
Leads to another buyout!
And another…
And another…
And another…
‘Is the U.S. News Media Failing to Do Its Job on Climate Change?‘
http://www.reuters.com/article/gwmEnergy/idUS343035023720091109
The son of Freddie Mac destroys Tokyo in another Housing Godzilla thriller!
deja vu all over again
What? Not enough Flu Vaccine for US Troops?
Troops in Afghanistan fight swine flu amid war
By AMIR SHAH (AP) – 2 hours ago
KABUL — Hundreds of Afghan and international troops already battling a rising militant insurgency are facing a new fight — recovering from swine flu, the virus that has left 11 people dead in the country.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hENOmImsL3jBmXAxKl0VCp0jJBwgD9BS2LLO0
‘Maldives anger at climate inertia ‘
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8349797.stm
“The president of the Maldives has strongly criticised the world’s rich countries for doing too little to stem climate change.”
As of April 2008, more than 70,000 foreign employees live in the country and another 33,000 illegal immigrants sums up more than one third of Maldivian population.
Jim Johnson…you’re such a naysayer.
Poo-pooing everything this wonderful government is trying to do FOR YOU.
Ingrate. Obaama loves His children.
Gitmo Prisoners get Flu Vaccine, but NOT US Troops!
Gitmo detainees set to receive swine flu vaccine
Posted: Nov 02, 2009 7:23 AM CST
Updated: Nov 02, 2009 5:30 PM CST
By DAVID McFADDEN
Associated Press Writer
SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) – Terrorism suspects held at the Guantanamo Bay naval base will soon get swine flu vaccines, despite complaints that American civilians should have priority, a military spokesman said Sunday.
http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=11424729
Gitmo Prisoners get Flu Vaccine, but NOT US Troops!
Gitmo detainees set to receive swine flu vaccine
Posted: Nov 02, 2009 7:23 AM CST
Updated: Nov 02, 2009 5:30 PM CST
By DAVID McFADDEN
Associated Press Writer
SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) – Terrorism suspects held at the Guantanamo Bay naval base will soon get swine flu vaccines, despite complaints that American civilians should have priority, a military spokesman said Sunday.
http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=11424729
“Nathaniel” contributes –
“Can we “jump to conclusions” about this terrorist yet and…. CALL HIM A TERRORIST?”
(okay, ol’ “Chas” gets cut some slack about his all-caps posts. but that’s not the point)
The point is –
You’re gonna turn the Fort Hood slaughter into a substitute jihad?
Then I think Scott Roeder is a (ahem) DOMESTIC TERRORIST!
Go out and shoot someone you think might have shot someone’s dog, boy.
Regular,
Now go research the nations that Maldives has invited to an AGW meeting.
Jim,
http://www.army.mil/-news/2009/09/02/26861-troops-to-receive-h1n1-flu-vaccinations/?ref=news-home-title3/url
Not only are they getting them, they have no choice in the matter.
Unless this was just more disinfo…
“Then I think Scott Roeder is a (ahem) DOMESTIC TERRORIST!”-Monkeyhawk
That’s the point.
We’re all (potential) domestic terrorists to be suspect. We need some good ol’ pre-crime legislation.
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Oh yeah, here’s this too (not that it matters):
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/08/national/main5578580.shtml
Monkeyhawk
Posted November 9, 2009 at 11:01 am | Permalink
“Nathaniel” contributes –
“Can we “jump to conclusions” about this terrorist yet and…. CALL HIM A TERRORIST?”
(okay, ol’ “Chas” gets cut some slack about his all-caps posts. but that’s not the point)
The point is –
You’re gonna turn the Fort Hood slaughter into a substitute jihad?
Then I think Scott Roeder is a (ahem) DOMESTIC TERRORIST!
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Textbook definition of terrorism or terrorist is acts of violence that are politcally motivated.
So in the case of Roeder and Hassan, you’re both right.
Saw this in ks.com terms of service agreement:
Misrepresent your identity or impersonate any person, somebody better pay attention to that one!
The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency ( DARPA) is headquartered in an unmarked office building in Arlington, VA and only 10% of its staff is military, he noted. There is little bureaucracy associated with this agency, he said, and ideas can often quickly get funded and researched, even if they are later tossed aside after they have been demonstrated to be possible.
In 1969, when the agency was known as ARPA, they developed the first computer-to-computer communication (it started off as a mere two character message “LO”). The network, called ARPANET, is considered the precursor to today’s Internet. Belfiore noted that some of DARPA’s commissioned studies like a plan to build a mechanical elephant as a military device, have been ridiculed, while other research they’ve done such as with lasers have led to breakthroughs in the medical field (LASIK, for example).
He detailed a number DARPA’s recent/current research projects:
The Auto Car– vehicles that drive themselves, or can take over based on observational cues.
Thinking Computers– Projects such as P.A.L. (Personal Assistants that Learn) attempt to have computers anticipate our needs
Trauma Pod– automated medical treatment on the battlefield
Artificial Limbs– would be indistinguishable from real ones
Advanced Solar Power– could reduce the need for soldiers to carry batteries
Wakefulness– a nasal spray that would keep people awake for days, without deleterious effects
http://www.coasttocoastam.com
Looks like ARPA that invented the internet… not Al Gore… Maybe the Gore snarking can finally be trashed… at least on this item… LOL
Fannie and Freddie are a drop in the bucket compared to the ‘private sector’ mortgage related bail outs.
“…somebody better pay attention to that one!” [Phantom]
Good catch, Phantom!!
Phantom
Posted November 9, 2009 at 11:37 am | Permalink
Fannie and Freddie are a drop in the bucket compared to the ‘private sector’ mortgage related bail outs.
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Got any linked sources to this fact, or you just blowing this opinion out of your hat?
If Hasan was actually seeking to terrorize in the name of some agenda, yeah, he’s a terrorist.
But there were people who just heard the guy’s name and said “terrorist!” without knowing a single fact.
That’s prejudice.
Scott Roeder may have been a lone nut, but the Army of God is a terrorist organization.
Pleefer
Posted November 9, 2009 at 11:05 am | Permalink
Jim,
http://www.army.mil/-news/2009/09/02/26861-troops-to-receive-h1n1-flu-vaccinations/?ref=news-home-title3/url
Not only are they getting them, they have no choice in the matter.
Unless this was just more disinfo…
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Hard to know who to believe…
Your link Pleefer is from 9/1/09. My link below is from today.
Since US troops in Afghanistan are contracting the H1N1 flue, you have to wonder if:
1. Obama lied 9/1/09 about all US troops getting the vaccine.
OR
2. Does the vaccine work?
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hENOmImsL3jBmXAxKl0VCp0jJBwgD9BS2LLO0
Public Health Minister Dr. Mohammad Amin Fatemi said the Afghan National Army reported 390 cases of H1N1 and 320 cases were identified among foreign troops. Most are U.S. forces stationed at Bagram Air Base and Italian soldiers at the military base in Herat in western Afghanistan.
$200 Billion EACH, that is $400 Billion to Fannie & Freddie.
Is $400 Billion a DROP IN THE BUCKET?
So Phantom, how much for the “‘private sector’ mortgage related bail outs”?
Pleefer
Posted November 9, 2009 at 10:58 am | Permalink
Jim Johnson…you’re such a naysayer.
Poo-pooing everything this wonderful government is trying to do FOR YOU.
Ingrate. Obaama loves His children.
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Sorryf Pleefer. I must not be reading the “authorized” news sources.
Heckler
Posted November 9, 2009 at 9:52 am | Permalink
“Tolerance” and “Political Correctness” kill.
A number of people within the military were concerned about this guy….
…..but said nothing for fear of being labeled “intolerant” of Muslims.
Can’t be “jumping to conclusions”.
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Heck, don’t it just make you sick?
Let’s see, how many of the 911 attackers were non-muslim non-middle-easterners?
And don’t DARE draw any conclusions about the race or nationality of the majority of people in prison.
I can just see it:
Quick Trip robbed. In an exclusive interview, station WAAA asks police the robber.
What color was this guy?
Cops: We can’t say. That could lead to profiling charges. Also, it could be considered sexist to indicate that the perp was a guy.
So how old was he/she?
Cops: Sorry, ageism.
STILL mighty quiet up there.
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/mdi_igr/512/
Population of Chicago in 2000: 9,157,450
Chicago Citizens Immunized against H1N1: Almost 51,000
Percent Vaccinated: Almost 0.56%
Chicago Vaccinates Almost 51,000 Against H1N1
Sunday, November 08, 2009
Associated Press
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,573008,00.html?test=latestnews
Swine Flu Vaccine Scarcity Stirs Anger in U.S. Cities
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aIHKVGJB0FXg
A number of people within the military were concerned about this guy….
…..but said nothing for fear of being labeled “intolerant” of Muslims.
Right. You know this to be true because someone told you it’s a plausible scenario.
I love this postmodern age we live in, where “facts” are whatever we wish to believe.
Schit.
Heckler
Posted November 9, 2009 at 12:03 pm | Permalink
STILL mighty quiet up there.
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/mdi_igr/512/
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Gosh what is that big orange round thing? Looks mighty hot.
The good doctor (who works at the Univ of Miss Med Center, Emergency Dept) has an interesting point in his letter to the editor, published in the Jackson, MS Clarion Ledger August 29, 2009.
somehow, I don’t think the ‘gimme FREE STUFF’ libs will agree with the doctor’s opinion, especially about ‘we reap what we sow’
Dear Sirs:
“During my last night’s shift in the E R, I had the pleasure of evaluating a patient with a shiny new gold tooth, multiple elaborate tattoos, a very expensive brand of tennis shoes and a new cellular telephone equipped with her favorite R&B tune for a ringtone. Glancing over the chart, one could not help noticing her payer status: Medicaid. She smokes more than one costly pack of cigarettes every day and, somehow, still has money to buy beer.
And our Congress expects me to pay for this woman’s health care? Our nation’s health care crisis is not a shortage of quality hospitals, doctors or nurses. It is a crisis of culture — a culture in which it is perfectly acceptable to spend money on vices while refusing to take care of one’s self or, heaven forbid, purchase health insurance. A culture that thinks “I can do whatever I want to because someone else will always take care of me”. Life is really not that hard. Most of us reap what we sow.
Don’t you agree?
STARNER JONES, MD
Jackson , MS
Tropical Storm Ida to hit LA, MS tonight with 65 mph winds.
How many hurricanes have hit the US coast this year?
al-Gore
http://tinyurl.com/yzme5bd
Somehow, I don’t think the ‘gimme FREE STUFF’ libs will agree with the doctor’s opinion, especially about ‘we reap what we sow’
Obviously, only an shallow ranter like yourself could equate (kinda-sorta-with-a-million-caveats)-universal healthcare with “free stuff.” But, beyond that, it’s the same old stupid dogma: it’s okay if someone else’s tax dollars pay for something that helps me, but God forbid my tax dollars might help someone else.
And for every silly anecdote based on ugly stereotypes, you can find ten stories of responsible, hard-working people who are just down on their luck, or even people who make good money who are nonetheless being ruined by huge medical bills they cannot pay.
Stay off my highways, deadbeat.
It is a crisis of culture — a culture in which it is perfectly acceptable to spend money on vices while refusing to take care of one’s self or, heaven forbid, purchase health insurance. A culture that thinks “I can do whatever I want to because someone else will always take care of me”. Life is really not that hard. Most of us reap what we sow.
Sounds a lot like a certain poster here…
“A number of people within the military were concerned about this guy….”
I’m guessing that’s why he was promoted to Major in May of ‘09 and stuff.
The Army always promotes those that are least stable and that are under FBI surveillance. It’s good for morale.
A culture that thinks “I can do whatever I want to because someone else will always take care of me”. Life is really not that hard. Most of us reap what we sow.
Actually, a good part of preventative medicine is promoting healthy lifestyles, but let’s not facts get in the way of a good ideological rant.
The obvious point is that those who have large $$ can abuse their bodies all they want, while those who are poor cannot (even though poverty often forces poor nutrional/exercise choices, and one concentrates on bare survival).
Let them eat vitamin supplements.
Actually, a good part of preventative medicine is promoting healthy lifestyles,
No it’s not, according to my grandmother – a tablespoon of Castor Oil once a week was all the preventative medicine one needed.
:D
I know people on Vision that eat a thousand times better than most folks. Steaks and whatever they want to buy. If they CHOOSE to eat well, they can damned well afford to.
It’s better to buy the big azz steaks and trade them for dope though.
Rage Posted November 9, 2009 at 12:30 pm | Permalink
A culture that thinks “I can do whatever I want to because someone else will always take care of me”. Life is really not that hard. Most of us reap what we sow. Actually, a good part of preventative medicine is promoting healthy lifestyles, but let’s not facts get in the way of a good ideological rant.
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And one Big reason why American health care costs are higher then other countries is that America is significantly more obese then other countries.
Obesity causes or aggravates many health conditions like:
Heart Disease
Cancer
Strokes
Diabetes
Arthritis (less weight is easier on the joints)
H1N1 (more deaths in obese people)
Instead of Americans Hoping for Obamacare to save their tail, Americans need to get up off their fat tails exercising more (try workiing maybe) and eating less.
soldevvb,
Do you think that a cartoon that’s based on a lie is funny?
And is a cartoon that incorrectly shows a “trim” person as being overweight funny?
Global Warming Predictions Invalidated
Submitted by Doug L. Hoffman on Thu, 11/05/2009 – 13:39
A new study in the journal Science has just shown that all of the climate modeling results of the past are erroneous. The IPCC’s modeling cronies have just been told that the figures used for greenhouse gas forcings are incorrect, meaning none of the model results from prior IPCC reports can be considered valid. What has caused climate scientists’ assumptions to go awry? Short lived aerosol particles in the atmosphere changing how greenhouse gases react in previously unsuspected ways. The result is another devastating blow to the climate catastrophists’ computer generated apocalyptic fantasies.
Obesity Rates by Country
# 1 United States: 30.6%
# 2 Mexico: 24.2%
# 3 United Kingdom: 23%
# 4 Slovakia: 22.4%
# 5 Greece: 21.9%
# 6 Australia: 21.7%
# 7 New Zealand: 20.9%
# 8 Hungary: 18.8%
# 9 Luxembourg: 18.4%
# 10 Czech Republic: 14.8%
# 11 Canada: 14.3%
# 12 Spain: 13.1%
# 13 Ireland: 13%
# 14 Germany: 12.9%
= 15 Portugal: 12.8%
= 15 Finland: 12.8%
# 17 Iceland: 12.4%
# 18 Turkey: 12%
# 19 Belgium: 11.7%
# 20 Netherlands: 10%
# 21 Sweden: 9.7%
# 22 Denmark: 9.5%
# 23 France: 9.4%
# 24 Austria: 9.1%
# 25 Italy: 8.5%
# 26 Norway: 8.3%
# 27 Switzerland: 7.7%
= 28 Japan: 3.2%
= 28 Korea, South: 3.2%
Notes:
1. There are Twice as many fat Americans as fat Canadians.
2. There are Three Times as many fat Americans as fat French.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_obe-health-obesity
Obesity: Total Number of Obese People (Obesity Rate x Population)
United States: 91,800,000
Mexico: 26,027,100
United Kingdom: 14,168,000
Germany: 10,578,000
Turkey: 8,520,000
France: 6,110,000
Spain: 5,999,800
Italy: 5,100,000
Canada: 4,819,100
Japan: 4,083,200
Greece: 2,465,940
Hungary: 1,885,828
Australia: 1,813,035
Czech Republic: 1,554,000
Korea, South: 1,536,000
Portugal: 1,356,800
Belgium: 1,258,218
Slovakia: 1,209,600
New Zealand: 902,462
Sweden: 892,400
Austria: 759,850
Finland: 678,400
Switzerland: 592,900
Ireland: 572,000
Denmark: 522,500
Norway: 398,400
Luxembourg: 92,000
Iceland: 39,556
Netherlands: 19,800
Why are American Health Care Costs So High?
Phantom Posted:
“Saw this in ks.com terms of service agreement”
Did anyone pick up on what the changes were?
I went through emails so fast and inadvertently deleted it before looking at it I guess. I believe it must have been in my spam file.
Al Gore is “trim”!
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Snouts in the Carbon Trough
http://tinyurl.com/ygz8huq
SolDevVB
Posted November 9, 2009 at 12:48 pm | Permalink
Global Warming Predictions Invalidated
Submitted by Doug L. Hoffman on Thu, 11/05/2009 – 13:39
A new study in the journal Science has just shown that all of the climate modeling results of the past are erroneous. The IPCC’s modeling cronies have just been told that the figures used for greenhouse gas forcings are incorrect, meaning none of the model results from prior IPCC reports can be considered valid. What has caused climate scientists’ assumptions to go awry? Short lived aerosol particles in the atmosphere changing how greenhouse gases react in previously unsuspected ways. The result is another devastating blow to the climate catastrophists’ computer generated apocalyptic fantasies.
Sol, wow…do you have a link? Ops, hey I found it.
http://www.theresilientearth.com/?q=content/global-warming-predictions-invalidated
Our poor yappy puppy cosmos, he has no life now, no reason to live…..oh well. :)
No neck:
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/al_gore7.jpg
Holy crap !!! He looks like he is going to freaking POP!!!
Maybe if he went vegan he could save the world and his own life.
Al Gore 150 lbs ago…
http://www.thespoof.com/sitepics/pdi/7107-0057AlGore.jpg
“Al Gore, who art in thy fully offset private jet; Nobel-prized be thy name; thy carbon-free kingdom come; on planet Earth (otherwise known as Gaia) as it should be after Copenhagen; give us this day our daily meat-free diet; and forgive us our emissions, though we don’t forgive any other big fat Americans who emit against us; lead us not into exotic holiday flights; and deliver us from climate denial; for the science is settled. Amen.”
JimJohnson,
What’s the date of the jpg in your 1:00 pm post?
Do you want to argue that people remain the same weight during their entire adult lifetime?
Media has recently reported that Al Gore is “trim”.
Well if the media reported it, the certainly it must be true.
GORACLE the HUT looks like he could walk right in to Jabba’s job on Star Wars today!
Say Cosmos,
You want to argue that it is normal for people to gain a lot of weight and become obese as they get older?
Outside of the lard azzes in the USA, that’s not so true.
boxlock20 posted November 9, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Our poor yappy puppy cosmos, he has no life now, no reason to live…..oh well. :)
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I certainly have no reason to waste my time trying to explain to idiots like you and soldevvb how that site completely misinterpreted that study.
JimJohnson posted November 9, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Say Cosmos,
You want to argue that it is normal for people to gain a lot of weight and become obese as they get older?
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No. My (obvious) point was that you were using an old photo to try to prove a current weight.
Not to change the subject but at the risk of being called racist I am glad that the Chiefs finally showed Larry Johnson the road.
He has been nothing but a thorn in their side since they drafted him.
okobserver
Posted November 9, 2009 at 1:46 pm | Permalink
Not to change the subject but at the risk of being called racist I am glad that the Chiefs finally showed Larry Johnson the road.
He has been nothing but a thorn in their side since they drafted him
Not a Chiefs fan but that man was to KC what TO was to the Cowboys.
No way…
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/al_gore7.jpg
http://www.exzooberance.com/virtual%20zoo/they%20walk/lizard/Bearded%20Dragon%20471030.jpg
Maybe David Icke is right?
Exclusive: Police Report on Gladney Beating by SEIU Thugsby Capitol Confidential
It has been more than three months since Kenneth Gladney was viciously attacked by SEIU employees. The assault wasn’t an accident, but a deliberate attempt to intimidate and silence tea party activists and town hall protesters. The morning of the Gladney assault, the White House presented to Senate Democrats a ‘battle plan’ to quell the protests. The White House advised Democrats “punch back twice as hard.” Gladney was the first casualty.
The Gladney beating took place at a forum on ‘Aging’, sponsored by Rep. Russ Carnahan. Carnahan had been caught flat-footed by earlier protests. This time he was more prepared; the day before the forum, Sara Howard took over as his communications director. Ms. Howard is a veteran leftist activist, holding senior positions with SEIU.
SEIU and partisan hacks like Media Matters have tried to spin away the Gladney beating. They would have you believe a 130 lb diabetic, recovering luekemia patient, picked a fight with men almost twice his size. The police report puts an end to that lie.
GLADNEY PART 2 –
The police report is unambiguous about what happened on August 6th in St. Louis. The White House, through SEIU, did indeed ‘punch back twice as hard.’ What is ambiguous, however, is why prosecutors haven’t pursued the charges against SEIU. As you will learn, there is a lot to suggest that Bob McCulloch, the St. Louis DA, is trying to cover-up SEIU’s crime. Stay tuned as the truth comes out.
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The prez spoke and SEIU followed. Sheeple everyone. It seems the police report brings out the truth as well as a statement from the victim.
http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/09/exclusive-police-report-on-gladney-beating-by-seiu-thugs/
Free I am a Minnesota fan this year because I have always been a Farve fan but would love to see KC do something. I was a real Priest Holmes fan.
Good riddance I say.
Tell us more, “okobserver,” about Obama’s senior thesis.
Then get back to us about “sheeple.”
All the bailout money that went to financial institutions other than f&f. It was the private sector doing the lions share of securitization in the mortgage arena, and all the related instruments.
boxlock20 says that it’s okay to cut out parts of what someone said.
‘Grist on the NYT’s “Baseless Hit Job on Al Gore”
Plus the story’s origin in a Fox News doctored video.‘
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/environment/143773/grist_on_the_nyt%27s_%22baseless_hit_job_on_al_gore%22/
Ok,
Life long Steeler fan here. Where I grew up it was either the Browns or Steelers. I did admire the way Holmes played though,just went out and did what he was paid to do with no cturmoil surrounding him.
Those voting against health care reform received on average 15% more from the health care industies, a littl over 400k each, in the senate the average per member is 1.4 mil. This is going to be a cash bonanza for our repub senators! No wonder Tihart& MOran wants to grab for the brass (gold) ring.
The U.S. House of Representatives narrowly passed its version of a landmark health insurance reform bill Saturday night, 220-215, and opponents of the measure have received an average of 15 percent more from health industry and health insurance interests over the past 20 years, a Center for Responsive Politics analysis has found.
All but one of the 177-member caucus of the Republican Party opposed the bill, as did 39 members of the Democratic Party. The Center for Responsive Politics found that these members of Congress received an average of $502,650 from health industry and health insurance companies and employees since 1989.
The lone Republican vote in favor of the measure came from Rep. Joseph Cao (R-La.), who beat embattled Democrat incumbent William Jefferson in a special election last year. In August of this year, Jefferson was convicted on corruption charges. Cao is viewed as one of the most vulnerable Republican incumbents, representing a district carried by President Barack Obama during the 2008 election.
The Center further found that Cao, along with the 219 members of the Democratic Party that supported this legislation received an average of $437,100 from health industry and health insurance companies and employees since 1989.
On average, opponents received $65,550 — or 15 percent — more from these special interests than supporters over the past 20 years.
The CRP analysis looked at all contributions from the political action committees and employees associated with health sector companies, as well as employees and PACs affiliated with finance sector insurance companies that also sell health insurance.
Tiarht and Moran had better grab for the gold ring because one of those two is going down for the count – and it is sure looking like it is going to be Todd.
Even their C Street buddies prefer Moran to Tiarht. Ouch….that had to hurt.
Maybe it’s true – there is honor among thieves?
How bout them Cowboys? And thank GAWD we got rid of TO. #1 in the NFC east. Yeah baby. New York Giants who? Philly who?
‘Maldives Asks Most Vulnerable Countries to Take Lead In Reducing Global Warming‘
http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-11-09-voa46.cfm
Gotta love those Manning bros though. The Cowboys looked good last night I have to admit. I am a fan of the Barber boys and Marion looked good last night.
We are a football family. Raised three sons and they all played. Have a grandson who wants to play for OU. After this week I am actively trying to disuade him from that. Although with their new QB coming in I can be swayed.
This is a hilarious clip of snl mocking fox news, shades of Sarah Palin!:
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/clips/fox-news-election-open/1173560/
MH you are absolutely right. I posted something without checking it out. I was wrong to do that.
I however do have to wonder why we have had every presidents academic record and have absolutely zilch about Obama. What is the big secret. Were his grades that bad? Is he hiding somehting else.
We even got Al Gores grades and he was never prez. Hillary eventually gave up her thesis why not Obama?
But yes I was wrong to post something I hadn’t checked out.
Scott Roeder has confessed to murdering Wichita physician Dr. George Tiller.
Well, it’s not like “not guilty” had much of a chance. He is clearly setting up his “justifiable homicide” case. I hope Nola Foulston picks the jury VERY carefully to weed out any whackaloons with nose trouble. The last thing the “pro life” people need to get them even loonier and busier with other people’s business would be an acquittal or hung jury.
Oh they NAILED Greta (probably the first time that’s happened to her in awhile) Sheep Smith and in particular Glenn Beck! Along with Fox “news”.
Phamtom that was funny I guess but it didn’t touch the ‘Jack Squat’ SNL sketch on Obama. Even funnier was CNN ‘fact checking’ the skit.
http://votingfemale.wordpress.com/2009/10/06/snl-obama-accomplishments-just-2-jack-squat-video-update-snl-under-attack-from-yahoo-fact-check-attack-in-progress/
Totally wrong on Shep Smith. That man is a leftie and so not that character. Have the courage to watch him a while so you can actually give an informed opinion on him.
cosmos_originally
Posted November 9, 2009 at 1:31 pm | Permalink
boxlock20 posted November 9, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Our poor yappy puppy cosmos, he has no life now, no reason to live…..oh well. :)
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I certainly have no reason to waste my time trying to explain to idiots like you and soldevvb how that site completely misinterpreted that study.
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Translation: I can’t, so I’ll keep posting cut and pastes about subjects nobody is interested in like, Maldives.
“Most of us reap what we sow.” [Johnson]
So, Johnson sows hate, fear, anger, and scare tactics. Guess that tells us what he/she will reap. Nuff said.
donndublin,
It’s probably better if you just ignore what Maldives and the other most vulnerable countries at the conference are doing.
chas obviously missed the initial reference. it was an emergency room md, in a letter to the editor that I posted upthread. the md was referring to the culture of people not doing anything for themselves, figuring others would take care of them.
pretty logical analysis. of course, i posted an opinion, and ‘rage’ in a typical lib response insulted me, ordered me to stay of “his” highways and in general turned it personal instead of discussing the ideas. typical. can’t argue with logic so turn it into personal attacks.
63 of physicians want health reform.
Pleefer claims that I know people on Vision.
LIE.
Next . . .
capn, your unsubstantiated comment in no way denies the logic of the emergency room dr quoted upthread. his position is that people who have money for extras and can pay for unhealthy habits still expect the state to pay for medical care is not something he can support.
capn…are you saying you know pleefer well enough to know everyone he is acquainted with? Everyone he is related to? Everyone in his neighborhood?
That is quite a strong statement from you…care to offer any proof at all? Or are you just going to throw out that accusation and leave it there without any substantiation?
CapnAmerica
Posted November 9, 2009 at 4:52 pm | Permalink
63 of physicians want health reform.
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Cap 63 of the physicians in the US where we have tens of thousands isn’t much to brag about.
Bush Debt versus Obama Debt:
George Bush:
January 20, 2001 – January 20, 2009
01/22/2001 $5,728,195,796,181.57
01/20/2009 $10,626,877,048,913.08
Total Bush debt over 8 years: $4,898,681,252,731.51
Barack Obama:
01/21/2009 $10,625,053,544,309.79
11/05/2009 $ 11,990,561,444,829.48
Total Obama debt over 10 months: $1,365,507,900,519.69
cosmos_originally
Posted November 9, 2009 at 1:31 pm | Permalink
boxlock20 posted November 9, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Our poor yappy puppy cosmos, he has no life now, no reason to live…..oh well. :)
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I certainly have no reason to waste my time trying to explain to idiots like you and soldevvb how that site completely misinterpreted that study.
http://www.theresilientearth.com/?q=content/global-warming-predictions-invalidated
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Tell us how the “site completely misinterpreted that study.”
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112818960
For the research-challenged CONs . . .
When polled, “nearly three-quarters of physicians supported some form of a public option, either alone or in combination with private insurance options,” says Dr. Salomeh Keyhani. She and Dr. Alex Federman, both internists and researchers at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York, conducted a random survey, by mail and by phone, of 2,130 doctors. They surveyed them from June right up to early September.
Most doctors — 63 percent — say they favor giving patients a choice that would include both public and private insurance. That’s the position of President Obama and of many congressional Democrats. In addition, another 10 percent of doctors say they favor a public option only; they’d like to see a single-payer health care system. Together, the two groups add up to 73 percent.
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CONs’ response: Yeah, but that’s just quantitative evidence done with scientific precision. What about our apocryphal unsourced ANECDOTE that jibs so well with what we believe about the poor?
Met DICK Kelsey at the Huckabee book signing ….. he had his nose right up Tanker Todds sphincter, who had his nose as far up the Govs tailpipe as he could without getting his Brooks Brothers brown — they HAD to see Huck for 10 minutes on his bus while their constituents waited in the rain to see real history (Good or Bad) — DICK Kelsey is a little small minded fish, who wants to ride Tiahrts coattails—- neither has an original thought just no —
capn…..still waiting for your supporting information how you know that pleefer doesn’t know anyone, anywhere who is on Vision. please enlighten us as to your insight as far as all of Pleef’s acquaintences, will you?
“unscourced”? Try the Jackson, MS Clarion-Ledger, August 29, 2009, complete with the author’s name.
how is that unsourced, capn? Just because you do not want to believe it doesn’t make it false. Just like your believing something doesn’t make it true…like your supposed knowledge of the financial status of everyone pleefer has ever met.
Raptor–
I have the phone records of GWBush’s spy-on-Americans program.
Shut up or I’ll out the affair you’re having with the bimbo in the cubicle next to yours.
“Pleefer claims that I know people on Vision.
LIE.
Next . . .”-Capn Omniscient
Heh heh heh…
No really, I do.
Really.
I promise.
And he has a Wii and an XBox 360 and Blackberries (2) and an internet connection.
I swear on ___________ (whatever you want me to swear on).
Your credibility has went to schitt brah. You cannot possibly have any kind of knowledge on whom my friends or acquaintances are, yet you BOLDLY and publicly announce that you do.
Silly man.
I don’t lie. It saves a lot of precious time just to tell the damned truth.
WASHINGTON, D.C. The Ohio State Medical Association, which represents a majority of doctors in Ohio, this afternoon announced its opposition to the current health care reform bill working its way rapidly through the U.S. House of Representatives.
“As physicians, we understand better than many others that the status quo of the health care delivery system is unsustainable,” said Dr. Roy H. Thomas, the association’s president and an Elyria ophthalmologist. In a statement, he said the association “supports many of the goals of this bill. However, the total proposal lacks many of the critical elements necessary for successfully reforming America’s health care delivery system and strengthening the physician-patient relationship.”
The association stated three other concerns:
* The bill doesn’t call for comprehensive federal tort reform. In Ohio, limits on the amount of punative damages a patient can get has helped bring down doctors’ liability insurance premiums, according to champions of the state’s liability reforms. Defense attorneys see it differently, noting what they say was a correlation between rising malpractice insurance premiums early this decade and money-losing investments made by insurance companies (so the companies raised their premiums to make up for their bad investments). Regardless, the Ohio medical association wants to see Ohio-style tort reform replicated in the federal courts.
* The House bill would expand enrollment “in an already overburdened and strained Medicaid program” by increasing eligibility to 150 percent of the federal poverty level. This has been a real concern of states, since they pay a big share of Medicaid expenses, although the latest House measure, introduced last week by Speaker Nancy Pelosi, would put most of the new burden on the federal government. Doctors have long disliked Medicaid because of its poor reimbursement rates, sometimes costing physicians more money in time and paperwork than they can earn treating Medicaid patients. The reform bills propose to fix this, but doctors seem skeptical.
* The House bill would place “unnecessary restrictions on physician-owned hospitals.” This speaks to a practice that has concerned lawmakers for sometime: doctors who not only have an equity stake in hospitals but who also refer well-insured patients to those hospitals
“We sincerely hope that the deficiencies in the current draft of the bill can be addressed and that the OSMA will be able to support a final bill, which deals with problems in our health care delivery system not yet addressed in the current proposal,” Thomas said.”
The American Medical Association’s much-touted endorsement of the House health care reform bill has triggered a revolt among some members who want the endorsement withdrawn.
Some members are outraged that the group’s trustees made the endorsement without the formal approval of the organization’s House of Delegates.
On Monday, delegates will vote on a resolution offered by some members that, if approved, will withdraw the AMA’s endorsement of the bill.
Interesting, Pleefer’s I know people just dropped to one guy with a play station . . .
Sorry to hear about your son, Pleef.
hey capn….care to pretend to backup your words? or can you for once be honest and admit your false statement?
the silence is deafening. capn is quick to accuse, attack, and slander….but when asked to support his outlandish attacks, he runs and hides.
Gary L. Kantor, Las Vegas
Monday, Nov. 9, 2009
“I have practiced medicine in Las Vegas since 1972, and I believe the American Medical Association’s support of the current Democratic health care legislation in Congress is outrageous. I have, therefore, canceled my membership to the AMA after having been a member for 29 years.
At present only 17 percent to 19 percent of physicians belong to the AMA. At no time have either I or any other members of the AMA to my knowledge been polled regarding our position or thoughts on this important legislation.
Thus the implication that the AMA represents anyone, let alone the majority of physicians, is really a fraud. Frankly, this bill is a disaster for our senior citizens, which should be a matter of great concern to those who rely on Medicare for their health care.
JimJohnson, this came out today (in reference to the military and their forced avccinations):
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/allen-mcduffee/blackout-military-personn_b_346908.html
Yeah, Am-Way, when you can’t over-rule the FACT that the AMA endorses health reform, make a big deal out of the fact that a few CONs in the organization don’t like it.
FACE IT, CONS. The liberals are winning. That’s what you get for 8 years of Worstpresidentever.
Dinner time, CONs.
Out to eat at one of Wichita’s fine dining establishments.
Enjoy your crow . . .
AMA=Federal Government Funded Organization
“People are fond of believing that the American Medical Association (AMA) represents physicians. But if representation follows revenues, the AMA’s most important customer is probably the federal government.
In1983, an agreement between the Health Care Financing Administration (HCFA) and the AMA made the AMA’s copyrighted Current Procedural Terminology codes (CPT) the sole coding system that could be used for billing Medicare.
An outline of the history of the CPT coding system is contained in a letter from Senator Trent Lott to the Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services. It is posted on the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons website.
As the letter and an August 25, 2000, Wall Street Journal article make clear, the codes were only one of many competing coding systems when they were developed in 1966. As part of the 1983 agreement, HCFA agreed not to use any other coding system. A lawsuit caused this stipulation to be modified after 1997, but by then, of course, CPT coding had become the Medicare and Medicaid standard.
According to Senator Lott’s 2001 letter, revenues from the AMA’s monopoly control of the coding system generated about $71 million in sales and royalty income a year. If anything, the codes are even more important now than they were then. Medical device companies introducing new products routinely issue press releases when a code is awarded to a new device, and the award can move the price of a company’s stock.”
Over the weekend, Democratic leaders spoke of an historic moment as health care reform legislation passed the House of Representatives. But that legislative victory failed to significantly move public opinion.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 45% now favor the health care plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. Most (52%) remain opposed.
Only 25% Strongly Support the plan while 42% are Strongly Opposed.
Rasmussen
“Interesting, Pleefer’s I know people just dropped to one guy with a play station . . .
Sorry to hear about your son, Pleef.”-CapnLogical
I will attempt to explain really slowly for you.
The person that I am referring to (out of a few families) fits the EXACT description from above. I referred to the singular person instead of combining ownership of said electronics to his entire household to save confusing you. But unfortunately (and I’m sorry) that I failed.
With you, there is no winning huh?
Silliness.
No Clear Mandate From Americans on Healthcare Reform
Evenly split on long-term impact on healthcare system; one in four expect personal benefitby Frank NewportPRINCETON, NJ — Americans are evenly split on the potential impact of new healthcare legislation, should it ultimately be passed into law. Forty-one percent say a new healthcare bill would make the U.S. healthcare system better in the long run, while 40% say it would make things worse.
Gallup
Tropical Storm Ida was barely noticed.
How many hurricanes have struck the US in 2009?
ZERO
capn and rage. both rely on personal insult rather than reason like adults. sad, isn’t it? are they so immature that they are incapable of adult conversation?
While many libs seem to revel in this behavior, I will not sink to that level, it is disgusting/immature and contributes absolutely nothing.
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Sounds like capn’s next to last post tonight…maybe your pal should read it one of these days.
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Ok, who’s responsible for bringing down the weblog all the time?
E bola in Afghanistan?
And only 150,000 H1N1 Vaccine Does for All US Troops in Iraq, Q atar, and Afghanistan
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009%5C11%5C07%5Cstory_7-11-2009_pg20_7
Rare virus poses threat to US troops
Ahhh, H1N1 vaccine for military coming by end of November?
http://www.dvidshub.net/?script=news/news_show.php&id=41236
Foley said this vaccination is mandatory for all DOD personnel and should expect to receive it one to three weeks from Nov. 5.
“The vaccines will be flown into Joint Base Balad and Baghdad first due to the fact those are ‘theater SSA’s,’ said Foley. “The outlying COL’s may get the vaccine closer to three weeks but that depends on the location or remoteness of the COL and the weather is also an important factor.”
Curran talked about the upcoming challenges that the medical team will face in the coming months.
“We are facing an operation that we have never done before,” said Curran. “The U.S. has not done a logistical drawdown like this since Vietnam.