Open thread 11/8

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  1. Posted November 8, 2009 at 6:54 am | Permalink

    Nancy Pelosi: “That was easy!”

  2. XXX
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 6:58 am | Permalink

    #
    Freebird1971
    Posted November 7, 2009 at 10:32 pm | Permalink

    Braelyn Joy arrived at 755 this evening.
    _____________________________

    Congrats to Freebird and his family on the arrival of his new grand daughter!

    Freebird, please accept my prayers for your new grand daughter and her family. May happines follow her all of her days.

  3. Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:01 am | Permalink

    Your Sunday Mornint cartoon –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO5xF-Es4kU

    (In honor of Veterans’ Sunday. Thanks, guys.)

  4. Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:10 am | Permalink

    Congratulations on your new granddaughter Freebird!

    I’ve met several ‘Joy’s’ in my lifetime and they all were joys to be around. :)

    Among others, Braelyn Joy shares this birth date with the following:

    1656 Sir Edmond Halley 1st to calculate comet’s orbit (Halley’s Comet)
    1900 Margaret Mitchell writer (Gone With the Wind)
    1927 Patti Page Claremont Oklahoma, singer (Tennessee Waltz)

  5. XXX
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:10 am | Permalink

    Hours after President Obama exhorted Democratic lawmakers to “answer the call of history,” the House hit an unprecedented milestone on the path to health-care reform, approving a trillion-dollar package late Saturday that seeks to overhaul private insurance practices and guarantee comprehensive and affordable coverage to almost every American.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/07/AR2009110701504.html?hpid=topnews
    ________________________________

    This will be a war in the Senate. Good luck to Dems getting it passed. America needs to stop being the only developed country in the world that doesn’t offer health care to all of it’s citizens.

  6. Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:10 am | Permalink

    Your Sunday Morning hymn –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niYPjvd7y-Y

    (Can you imagine anyone thinking they could win WWII against an army that marched to this? That’s why it was written.)

  7. Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:14 am | Permalink

    Your Sunday Morning sermon –

    http://tinyurl.com/ylheztg

  8. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:22 am | Permalink

    I don’t know why you waste you time and Blog space posting those Monkey, I doubt anybody looks at them. I have yet to open even one.

  9. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:26 am | Permalink

    “America needs to stop being the only developed country in the world that doesn’t offer health care to all of it’s citizens.”

    W H Y ?

    Every citizen and illegal alien already has it one way or another….this simply will get another poorly run and horribly expensive liberal government program going that will rob us of our economic future.

  10. Hud
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:37 am | Permalink

    RE: Braelyn Joy

    Congratulations.

  11. HLP
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:40 am | Permalink

    The actual number of Americans without health care that can not afford it and don’t qualify for a government progam is 12.2 million.

    The bill the dems passed at a cost of 2 trillion dollars is designed to provide health care to 96% of all Americans.

    300 million Americans. Do the math sheeple.

  12. Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:54 am | Permalink

    12,162,388.96 plus or minus people not insured under the Dems Bill, to be exact Hank. :D

    This would include the population of the following states and districts.

    Maine
    New Hampshire
    Hawaii
    Rhode Island
    Montana
    Delaware
    South Dakota
    Alaska
    North Dakota
    Vermont
    Wyoming
    District of Columbia
    Guam
    America Samoa
    Vermont

  13. Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:59 am | Permalink

    Yeah, it is a shame that the Republicans didn’t roll up their sleeves and really participate in crafting this bill. Perhaps absolutely everybody could be protected with this first iteration of the Affordable Health Care Act for America.

  14. DorisKing
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:59 am | Permalink

    “I don’t know why you waste you time and Blog space posting those Monkey, I doubt anybody looks at them. I have yet to open even one.” — Bawx.

    A key to conservatism is flatlined curiosity. They don’t want to know anything new, or see anything different.

  15. Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:03 am | Permalink

    DavidB
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:59 am | Permalink
    Yeah, it is a shame that the Republicans didn’t roll up their sleeves and really participate in crafting this bill.

    ====================
    What part of Pelosi “Closed Door Sessions” where no Republicans were allowed do you not understand?

  16. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:10 am | Permalink

    “A key to conservatism is flatlined curiosity. They don’t want to know anything new, or see anything different.”–presumptuously dumb Doris

    I’ve seen the tripe Monkey posts on more than enough occasions….I’m sure those were as useless as the others. Only the ignorant would continue to waste time with them.

  17. Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:14 am | Permalink

    49.4 Percent of United States Representatives in Congress did not have a say in the health care bill. This total includes moderate Democrats…

    220 – 215 vote

    I expect that voters in 2010 will let Democratic Congressman know their fillings of being taxed without representation.

  18. Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:15 am | Permalink

    Congressman – congressional representatives
    – to be politically correct

  19. Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:16 am | Permalink

    fillings = feelings

    sheesh , never post without coffee

  20. Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:18 am | Permalink

    From Death Panel lies to “destroying America” rhetoric, to promises to make the bill Obama’s Waterloo, to claims that only minor tweaks are needed to the system, and then claims that everybody already has access to health care shows the depth of the Republican commitment to reform.

    What on Earth would the Republicans have contributed to the closed door meetings but obstruction?

    A few years ago, the closed door meetings were okay when it it was a Republican majority barring the doors to Democrats. Whahhhhappened?

  21. Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:20 am | Permalink

    http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/117105/thumbs/r-WHAT-A-NIGHT-huge.jpg

  22. HLP
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:21 am | Permalink

    A few years ago, the closed door meetings were okay when it it was a Republican majority barring the doors to Democrats. Whahhhhappened?
    ___________________________________

    I must have missed that a few years ago. Got a link? When did that ever happen?

  23. writerdog
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:25 am | Permalink

    One of the aspects of what is wrong in health insurance that I hope will be corrected is.
    A level playing field for small business, the options for them is down to one of two.
    Either cut so far into company profits to provide health insurance that the future of the business is in question. Or no health insurance for the employees and dealing with a employee base that is not healthy.

    There were some Republican proposals that did make sense, a few amongst the many they proposed. Perhaps they should have been given more considerations and would have insured the best bill.

    If nothing more icing on the cake and a double check on providing fair and affordable insurance.

    Co-ops and cross State line sale, that is the only two of the GOP proposals that were worth the consideration though.

    We will have to see just what will be the final outcome of the Committee bill.
    A real focus and logical bill is needed, the only hope is that one or the other party will remember how to do that?

  24. Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:26 am | Permalink

    What on Earth would the Republicans have contributed to the closed door meetings but obstruction?

    —————–
    That’s just a stupid remark.

    How about whatever party wins the majority in Congress or the Senate that the minority party just stays at home not able to represent their districts?

    That way we don’t have to pay for half of the salaries of Congress.

    Dictatorships are unconstitutional according to the Constitution.

  25. Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:28 am | Permalink

    I must have missed that a few years ago. Got a link? When did that ever happen?
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    To advance that question, when did any party besides the Democrats have a closed door session that involved 1/6th of the economy of the United States?

  26. okobserver
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:00 am | Permalink

    Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:10 am | Permalink
    Congratulations on your new granddaughter Freebird!

    I’ve met several ‘Joy’s’ in my lifetime and they all were joys to be around. :)

    Among others, Braelyn Joy shares this birth date with the following:

    1656 Sir Edmond Halley 1st to calculate comet’s orbit (Halley’s Comet)
    1900 Margaret Mitchell writer (Gone With the Wind)
    1927 Patti Page Claremont Oklahoma, singer (Tennessee Waltz)
    ———–
    Reg you forgot to mention my #2 granddaughter Andrea Nicole born on November 7, 1994.

    Congrats on the new addition Free. Grandchildren are a special gift from God. All of the fun and little of the responsibility of parenting them.

    BTW my grandson’s football team won their first Bowl game yesterday 44-0. They play the second round today. Bragging – something grandparents get to do.

  27. okobserver
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    David I would venture to say after looking at the bill – no republican or anyone with reasoning skills want their finger prints on this debacle.

    The dems wanted all of the glory and they got it – for a while. Truth will tell won’t it. Remember we have an election every two years. I’m sure there are some dems thinking that very thing today.

    The constitutionality of this bill will be the next big test. Does the gov have the right to say you have to have health insurance or go to jail?

  28. Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:13 am | Permalink

    Pelosi and Democrats: No representation for the Public or Republicans, just closed and locked doors

    Energy Policy:

    Republican members of Congress have come back from their districts to occupy the House chamber so they can talk about the bipartisan energy bill that Pelosi refuses to bring to a vote, even though the House speaker pulled the plug on the microphones and the lights and ordered C-SPAN to turn off its TV cameras.

    Health Care Reform:

    Locked Public and Republican Representatives out.

    Congressional Oversight Comittee

    Door locks were changed and Republicans were literally locked out of Congressional Oversight committe room.

    Senate (Reid)

    Locked health committee door – meeting with White House staff.

    ——————————-
    Appears that representational government and openness is not part of the Democratic Party’s policy.

  29. okobserver
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:16 am | Permalink

    So where might another McVeigh—or worse—spring from?

    Experts on extremist groups say that the outcries of right-wing tea-partiers, death panellers, birthers, and the like are accompanied by increased activity all along the paranoid fringe—from radical border-patrol groups to skinheads to sovereign citizens. Two camps are particularly restive: militia enthusiasts and white supremacists; their members are seething because of the persistence of two wars and the election of a black (and Democratic) president with an ambitious agenda. The previous upsurge of antigovernment activity in the 1990s—of which McVeigh’s attack marked the apex—was set off in part by a recession and the election of a liberal president.
    —————-
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-11-07/stopping-the-next-mcveigh/full/

    To see how extreme the far left fringe has wandered read the entire article. We have a muslim who the left just has to know the reason he killed so many innocent American soldiers – and the fringe left writes an article like this for the left nutwings.

    Don’t hold this animal responsible for his action. Of course it is the fault of the conservatives among us. He must have had PTSD from being at Walter Reed or Ft Hood.

    Lets instead concentrate on the ‘might happen’ things in the future of those bad TEA party extremists.

    What a crock.

  30. Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:20 am | Permalink

    “Boxlock20″ cruelly attacks –

    “I don’t know why you waste you time and Blog space posting those Monkey, I doubt anybody looks at them. I have yet to open even one.”

    Oh Death, where is thy sting?

    Oh Grave, where is thy victory?

    “Boxlock20″ doesn’t follow my Sunday morning links!

    I don’t know how I’ll cope with the rejection.

    I’m simpering at the rejection of WE Blog’s foremost Jeffersonian historian.

    My Sunday morning ritual is for me as much as for anyone. Usually with a classic Warner Brothers cartoon, a clip representative of my eclectic taste in music, and a “sermon” presented with no comment.

    I suspect I’ve “wasted” far less blog space in all my first-thing Sunday Morning posts than yours which declared Thomas Jefferson’s Presidency occurred from “January 20, 1777 to January 20, 1781.”

    But now I know you, “Boxlock20,” haven’t clicked a one of ‘em?

    What possibly else could I have to live for?

    Oh wait…

  31. XXX
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:22 am | Permalink

    It’ll be interesting to see what happens in the Senate. Health Care Reform isn’t the law of the land until it gets through the Senate. I’d be very surprised if Dems can get enough Dems to vote for it to pass.

  32. JimJohnson
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:27 am | Permalink

    Today’s ‘Sermon’ from the Monkey:

    Monkeyhawk
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 6:52 am | Permalink
    Jesus told us to consider the poor, to love our neighbors as ourselves, to do unto others as we would want others to do unto them.

    ==================================

    Monkey now uses The Bible to justify Nationalized Healthcare.

    I suppose next, Monkey will use The Bible to ban Homosexual Marriage and Monkey will condemn the Rump Humpers.

    Those with their tin cups held out already for free healthcare, even resorted to The Bible to secure the Socialism they are so desparate to embrace.

    You get what you pay for. You want free healthcare? You want something for nothing?

    The silver lining to the destruction of the quality and service level of today’s health care system, is that you Socialist Bass Turds will be dying as fast as the rest of us. And when enough old farts are killed off, the Social Security and Medicare problems may be solved, at least for a short time period.

  33. cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    Regular posted November 8, 2009 at 8:26 am

    What on Earth would the Republicans have contributed to the closed door meetings but obstruction?

    —————–
    That’s just a stupid remark.
    —————-

    Actually, it’s a reasonable question that Regular doesn’t seem to want to answer.

    DavidB
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:18 am | Permalink

    From Death Panel lies to “destroying America” rhetoric, to promises to make the bill Obama’s Waterloo, to claims that only minor tweaks are needed to the system, and then claims that everybody already has access to health care shows the depth of the Republican commitment to reform.

    What on Earth would the Republicans have contributed to the closed door meetings but obstruction?

  34. JimJohnson
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    Closed Door Government Praised by Cosmos!

    Transparency in Government is a bad thing, people might actually be Free to criticize Government or worse – vote them out of power.

  35. Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    Let’s look back six years and see who schooled the Democrats on how to get things done:

    “The State Of Congress
    By Richard E. Cohen, Kirk Victor, and David Baumann, National Journal
    © National Journal Group Inc.
    Friday, Jan. 9, 2004

    For many Democrats, the way that Republicans pushed the Medicare bill to enactment late last year is Exhibit A in “What’s Wrong With Congress.” After each chamber approved Medicare legislation in June, a handful of senior Republican lawmakers dispensed with the formality of a House-Senate conference committee and rewrote much of the bill during months of closed-door negotiations last fall. The Republicans excluded most of the Democratic conferees, except for two key centrist Senate Democrats who supported the legislation to begin with.”

  36. Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, I guess.

  37. satatom
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    Everybody better hurry and buy tickets to see Palin in Salina!

    Of course she won’t show but she WILL take your money!!!!

    Her book “Rogue”(not released) is now available on Amazon for $1.61.

    Loser Repubes.

  38. JimJohnson
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    David defends Democrats by saying Republicans DID IT TOO!

    More of the Same. Where’s the Change?

    Two Wrongs = One Right

    Bush did it too! = Ok for Obama to do the Same.

    (Libtard excuses are getting old)

  39. cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    JimJohnson posted November 8, 2009 at 9:41 am

    Closed Door Government Praised by Cosmos!
    ——————-

    And JimJohnson also doesn’t want to answer the question.

  40. Politico
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:57 am | Permalink

    MoveOn Threatens to Push Primary Opponents to Dems Voting Against Health Plan

    Moveon.org has reportedly raised $3,578,117 in contributions to fund primary challenges against ‘any Democratic senator who blocks an up-or-down vote on health care reform with a public option,’ according to an e-mail sent to group members on Thursday.

    A civil war is threatening to erupt within the Democratic Party as liberal advocacy group MoveOn.org looks to punish moderate Democrats opposed to the sweeping health care overhaul proposed by party leaders.

    MoveOn has reportedly raised more than $3.5 million in contributions to fund primary challenges against “any Democratic senator who blocks an up-or-down vote on health care reform with a public option,” according to an e-mail sent to group members on Thursday.

    The e-mail warned that any Democratic House member who joins Republicans to filibuster the health care reform measure will “face an enormous backlash from the grassroots.”

    The group also highlights a letter from Democracy for America, the nation’s largest progressive political action founded by former Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, which urges Senate Democrats to strip committee chairmanship from “any Democrat who filibusters health care.”

    MoveOn.org, which has 5 million members, has become increasingly vocal in its threats against conservative and moderate Democrats who remain opposed to the health care bills laid out by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

    Several Democrats, including Rep. Ike Skelton of Missouri, chairman of the Armed Services Committee, and Rep. Artur Davis of Alabama, have expressed resistance to Pelosi’s $1.055 trillion measure in recent days — underscoring the intra-party rift over President Obama’s top domestic priority.

    Obama had planned a rare visit to the House Friday morning to persuade wavering Democrats, but was forced to reschedule it until Saturday as delays push back a vote on the measure.

    Among the most heated disagreements among rank-and-file Democratic lawmakers are issues related to abortion and illegal immigrants.

  41. JimJohnson
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:59 am | Permalink

    Congratulations Freebird on the new arrival.

    You may now officially settle into rocking chair mode.

  42. XXX
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    JimJohnson
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    David defends Democrats by saying Republicans DID IT TOO!

    More of the Same. Where’s the Change?
    _____________________________

    Here’s yet another opportunity for us to bludgeon each other and ignore the real problem.

    Our government is broken.

    And it was broken long before last January 20.

  43. Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    It only took a little over 200 years.

    Health care for ALL Americans was always a right. The Constitution promised it. FINALLY a bit of that promise is fulfilled.

  44. American_Way
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    “America needs to stop being the only developed country in the world that doesn’t offer health care to all of it’s citizens.”

    To bad XXX, the US Congress spent nearly 2 trillion dollars and the program does NOT offer healthcare to all of it’s citizens.

    “By 2019, CBO and JCT estimate, the number of nonelderly people who are uninsured
    would be reduced by about 36 million, leaving about 18 million nonelderly residents
    uninsured (about one-third of whom would be unauthorized immigrants).”

    (To get other 18 million they will 1)grant citizenship 2) spend another trillion dollars)

  45. cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    DorisKing posted November 8, 2009 at 7:59 am

    “I don’t know why you waste you time and Blog space posting those Monkey, I doubt anybody looks at them. I have yet to open even one.” — Bawx.

    A key to conservatism is flatlined curiosity. They don’t want to know anything new, or see anything different.
    ———————

    Very true.

  46. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:05 am | Permalink

    With regard to your comment of what Jesus says:
    “Jesus told us to consider the poor, to love our neighbors as ourselves, to do unto others as we would want others to do unto them.”—Monkey

    This is what the Creator of the universe also says about that.

    “One thing I love about the Bible is that it takes a hard stand on people who try to just “get by” and feed off others without doing a lick of work themselves. Here’s my favorite verse on this topic:

    For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “If a man will not work, he shall not eat.” 2 Thessalonians 3:10

    Yep, don’t work, don’t eat. I think that says it all.

    Notice that it doesn’t say that those who CAN NOT work should not eat. No, we should have compassion on and help out those people. But if someone can work, yet WILL NOT work, then he’s left to the consequences of his actions (or inactions in this case).

    Here are a couple other verses on this same line of thinking:

    Lazy hands make a man poor, but diligent hands bring wealth. Proverbs 10:4

    How long will you lie there, you sluggard? When will you get up from your sleep? A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest — and poverty will come on you like a bandit and scarcity like an armed man. Proverbs 6:9-11

    So get outthere and work! Or find a way to survive without eating.”

  47. Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:05 am | Permalink

    From a 2006 Dailykos blog: Letter to Mrs Pelosi

    Show No Mercy: I realize you have to make bipartisan noises. I strongly recommend you keep making them. But I don’t recommend you actually follow them. Republicans treated Democrats shoddily, especially under Tom DeLay’s rule, and I see no reason not to return the favor. Your former colleagues “across the aisle” even changed Congressional rules in order to lock out Democrats from deliberations on policy issues. Please don’t bother going soft and revamping those rules to restore some sort of level playing field. … No, you need to be merciless in exacting justice and rectifying wrongs done not to the Democrats but to the citizens of the United States. If the Republicans were foolish enough to set precedent by shutting out Democrats through bad behavior and Congressional regulation, then surely they must reap what they have sown. Indeed, it may well be that the Republicans have provided you with the tools and the rationale for saying something as simple as: “Republicans saw no need to consult Democrats when it came to considering the budget, Medicare policy, and other critical matters. We see no need to consult Republicans in our efforts to investigate conflicts of interest affecting both parties, curtailing and exposing inappropriate lobbying behavior, and having up-or-down votes to censure or expel violators.”

  48. Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:05 am | Permalink

    And voters should remember, REPUBLICANS dragged their feet and continue to do so. Republicans are the party of denying health care to Americans.

  49. Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    Bipartisanship? It take two to tango.

  50. American_Way
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    Democrats love the federal IRS. More jobs created and whole new divisions:

    “Costs to the Internal Revenue Service of implementing the eligibility determination, docume tation, and verification processes for subsidies. Those
    costs would probably be between $5 billion and $10 billion over 10 years.” (CBO)

  51. JimJohnson
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    Another American Killed in Blood Bath in Afghanistan, Small Arms & RPG used in Attack

    November 06, 2009

    ——————————————————————————–

    DOD Identifies Army Casualty

    The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.

    Spc. Julian L. Berisford, 25, of Benwood, W.V., died Nov. 4 in Paktika province, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked his unit using small arms and rocket-propelled grenade fires. He was assigned to the 3rd Battalion, 509th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team (Airborne), 25th Infantry Division, Fort Richardson, Alaska.

    When Will Obama DECIDE to Bring Our Troops Home OR Support His General’s Request for More Troops?

  52. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    “t’ll be interesting to see what happens in the Senate. Health Care Reform isn’t the law of the land until it gets through the Senate. I’d be very surprised if Dems can get enough Dems to vote for it to pass.”—XXX

    And then there is the Supreme Court….I’d like so see just where in the Constitution the Feds are given the right to demand someone buy insurance.

    And don’t give me the vehicle insurance requirement lamebrains, one only has to purchase liability insurance if one wants to drive on public roads.

  53. Freebird1971
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:14 am | Permalink

    Will be interesting to see how the House and Senate bills are but together in a cohesive cost effective package that will deliver what congress has promised. I see some bitter debate before it’s all over. The house bill passed by only 5 votes,hardly a sweeping mandate,and what is to say that some who originally voted yes decide to change their vote when the final bill is up for vote. Yes, we are living in interesting times.

  54. cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:16 am | Permalink

    ‘Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.’

  55. JimJohnson
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:19 am | Permalink

    Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    And then there is the Supreme Court….I’d like so see just where in the Constitution the Feds are given the right to demand someone buy insurance.

    —————————————

    Government will call the HealthCare Purchase Mandate “A TAX”.

    It’s the Power of the 16th Amendment.

    Government can and does tax almost everything, even Hillary just admited this.

    Government taxes us More or Less, gives us More or Fewer credits and deduction – Based On What Government Commands Us to Do!

    Government already controls us and makes moral judgements on our behavior through tax policy.

    ObamaCare will be but one more control point, where Government tells us what to do, through the power of the Almighty IRS.

  56. American_Way
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    ““Does the gov have the right to say you have to have health insurance or go to jail?”

    Okobserver, we need to realize that this new entitlement program will not send anyone to jail. Democrats don’t send people to jail. But what is going to happen is either the courts or the bleeding hearts themselves will reduce or end the mandatory requirement altogether. It was a gimmick to pass the bill.

    The costs of the program will increase by the repeal of the $167 billion in collections of penalties paid by individuals and employers.

    It’s part of the overall democrat social plan.

    Secondly, we know democrats have no intention of ever reducing the Medicare Program (a program just last year democrats bragged about as one of the most successful socialist programs of all time).

    So, the cuts to existing spending programs– including the Medicare?Advantage and other programs–saving $426 billion through 2019 will be repealed or negated by annual legislation to shore up the annual cuts in medicare payments to providers and hospitals.

    The democrats were slick. They can brag about all these savings and penalties – and then later vote to override them.

    $426B
    +$167B

    The program will cost an additional $593 billion dollars.

    My logic is supported by every entitlement program ever enacted by congress. The costs always go up not just by inflation – but by the continuing bungling legislation of Congress.

    But democrats will be able to pat themselves on the back this year.

  57. American_Way
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    Boxlock and Okobserver, we better hope the USSC does NOT throw out the mandatory clause. That’s exactly what Congress wants.

    Democrats would have a ready made excuse to repeal that portion of the Act. That results in a loss of $161b in revenue.

    More deficit spending, or higher taxes.

  58. American_Way
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    $167B (CBO)

  59. Freebird1971
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    Saturday, November 7, 2009

    The House has voted to prohibit coverage of abortions in a new government-run health care plan that Democrats want to compete with private insurers.

    The 240-194 vote was a blow to liberals who would let the Obama
    administration decide whether to cover abortions in a government-provided insurance plan. Sixty-four Democrats joined 176 Republicans in favor of the prohibition.

    The vote was on an amendment to a Democratic-written bill to
    provide health care insurance coverage to 36 million Americans who
    don’t have it now. The amendment also prevents private insurers
    from covering abortions for anyone getting federal subsidies to
    help pay their premiums

  60. HLP
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    Poor, poor delusional scooter!

    Thinks he’s going to get free health care! Read the bill scooter. See if you can figure out if you even qualify for anything in the bill.

    You might have to actually pay for your health care or go to jail.

    Or, since over 12 million sheeples will still be without health care under this bill you might still be one of them losers.

    nitwit

  61. okobserver
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:04 am | Permalink
    DorisKing posted November 8, 2009 at 7:59 am

    A key to conservatism is flatlined curiosity. They don’t want to know anything new, or see anything different.
    ————–
    Cosmos and Doris I think the error of this statement has been proven by the exit of the libtards to a blog where no one is allowed to disagree with them and no new ideas can be introduced.

    The moderates and conservatives are still here defending our beliefs and interpretations of the laws the dems are passing or attempting to pass.

  62. American_Way
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    And before anyone gets excited, our resident blogger will likely NOT go to jail for not paying partially for his health insurance.

    The formula is over my head:

    Penalty for Uninsured = max[((AGI less filing threshold) * ("tax" rate) * (1 if uninsured, 0 otherwise)), maximum penalty]

    But if you read the bills language there are exemptions, exceptions, and reductions based upon income up to and including 400% of FPL*

    *See yesterdays open thread for income levels Federal Poverty Levels

  63. Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    “You might have to actually pay for your health care or go to jail.”

    And that is a change on the current situation how?

  64. JimJohnson
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Amendment 16 – Status of Income Tax Clarified. Ratified 2/3/1913.

    The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

    ———————————————-

    Now if there was truly EQUAL PROTECTION under the law, everyone would pay the same AMOUNT of taxes, or at least the same RATE of taxes.

    But then, the Constitution doesn’t really mean anything anymore anyway.

  65. American_Way
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    “The House has voted to prohibit coverage of abortions in a new government-run health care plan.”

    Millions more unwanted babies will be brought into the world. Let’s hope all those in favor of eliminating funding for abortions have their names on the list to adopt these babies born from extremely poor women (girls) who cannot even afford the $200 bucks for an abortion.

    It will cost the taxpayers more in the long run for all the support payments to these unwanted babies. The cost in crime and prison is an added bonus.

  66. Blaidd_Drwg69
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    It does seem a bit hypocritical for the WEBlog cons to be demonizing the House Healthcare Bill because of deficit spending.

    I guess they’ve all forgotten about the 5+ TRILLION added to the deficit that the Bush administration pushed and they supported. Also forgotten is the balanced budget habded to them from the Clinton presidency.

    Let’s not even go into the TRILLONS spent on the Cheney/bush incursion into Iraq to rid the world of WMD’s that did not exist at the time.

    Hypocrite, thy name is republican.

    All because they don’t want every US citizen to have healthcare coverage.

  67. Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    “A key to conservatism is flatlined curiosity.”

    Yup. Conservative in EVERYTHING including their imagination, curiosity and compassion. IMAGINATION they can do. But even that always goes to some dark place where someone wants to take away their pop guns or GASP ask them to be thoughtful about the environment.

  68. HLP
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    And that is a change on the current situation how?

    __________________

    Well, junior, let’s see if we can find a difference.

    You don’t have health insurance.

    You’re not in jail.

  69. Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    Yeah I also can’t afford to go to the doctor.

    We treat PRISONERS better than hard working Americans.

  70. American_Way
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    “and they supported”

    Prove it Blaidd_Crwg69.

    Where did I ever support deficit spending?

    And are you counting the cost of the Iraq War twice? In the first 5 trillion and your second statement.

    The balanced budget amendment came from a republican congress under Clinton.

    Unlike the deficit spending from a democrat congress under Bush.

    Your hypocrite statement is overloaded with BS because of your stereotyping.

  71. Freebird1971
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    Hypocrite, thy name is republican.
    ———————————–
    Correction Hypocrite thy name is Politician

  72. American_Way
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    “hard” working??????????????????????????????

    HA-HA! HO-HO! HE-HE! ROTFLMAO!

    HA-HA! HO-HO! HE-HE!
    HA-HA! HO-HO! HE-HE!
    HA-HA! HO-HO! HE-HE!
    HA-HA! HO-HO! HE-HE!
    HA-HA! HO-HO! HE-HE!
    HA-HA! HO-HO! HE-HE!
    HA-HA! HO-HO! HE-HE!
    HA-HA! HO-HO! HE-HE!
    HA-HA! HO-HO! HE-HE!

  73. Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    I hope provisions have been made in the health care bill not to compensate chiropractors and other such quackery. The lack of funding for a woman to protect herself from an unwanted pregnancy IS troubling and will need to be addressed. You don’t deny funding for a perfectly legal medical procedure just because some people have nose trouble.

  74. Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    Yes “American way ” aka “Regular” we KNOW that you laugh at working folks while you live off the Government dime.

  75. American_Way
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    There is one comparison to the Bush deficit spending to the Obama deficit spending that is not quite apples to apples.

    Bush was thrust into one war by 911. We can debate the second war until the cows come home, but nevertheless the costs of war – are temporary.

    New entitlement programs are forever and forever increasing. They never go away.

    It’s not a logical comparison in the long run.

  76. American_Way
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    Sorry, I’m not Regular today. Today is Sunday. Today I am Hank. I believer JimJohnson is playing Regular today.

    Not sure for sure. I have a hard time keeping up with all your wild azz claims.

    Perhaps one of my other nic’s has the current schedule?

  77. Freebird1971
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    American_Way
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:44 am | Permalink
    Sorry, I’m not Regular today.

    You might want to increase your fiber intake.

  78. sursum
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    Freebird1971:Under single care, abortions are covered if performed in a hospital with the advice and consent of 3 doctors who understand the procedure to be to-wards the health of the mother. Having said that no person or hospital who finds abortion to be against their morals or ethics are made to partake in any way in the procedure for many, probabaly the majority of hospitals, are originally faith based as in the US. There are clinics set up to cover abortions but they are not covered by the insurance plan and must be paid for out of pocket. There is NO law pertaining to abortion, it is considered a mediacl procedure only in the eyes of the law, but sometimes not the courts. I think exempting abortion is a good thing, it’s liable to be a very cruel and inhuman method of birth control otherwise.

  79. Blaidd_Drwg69
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    bush tax cuts = 5+ BILLION to the deficit.

    Sorry, left that wonderful tidbit out!

  80. American_Way
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    “You might want to increase your…”

    lol Freebird! [smiling]

    I’d be happy today too, if I had a new baby
    Braelyn Joy to hold.

    Congrats!

  81. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    “There is NO law pertaining to abortion, it is considered a mediacl[sic] procedure only in the eyes of the law, but sometimes not the courts.”
    —sursum

    What the he11 does that mean!
    Aren’t the courts supposed to be about the law?
    No wonder I feel I’m conversing with residents of an insane asylum.

  82. Freebird1971
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    Amway,
    Thanks, that statement was just too hard to pass up

  83. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    “You don’t deny funding for a perfectly legal medical procedure just because some people have nose trouble.”—junior

    But you sure as heck need to for those that abrogate their personal responsibility, and not leave society as a whole to become responsible.

  84. cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    okobserver posted November 8, 2009 at 10:28 am

    The moderates and conservatives are still here defending our beliefs and interpretations of the laws the dems are passing or attempting to pass.
    —————

    Yes okobserver, you’re still here posting falsehoods, like “death panels”.

  85. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    “Yeah I also can’t afford to go to the doctor.

    We treat PRISONERS better than hard working Americans.”–junior

    Maybe you should consider actually working at a job whereby you receive a paycheck and/or benefits.
    Or….maybe prison would be more appropriate, after all you admitted being a thief and stealing not that long ago.

  86. okobserver
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:08 am | Permalink

    American_Way
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:33 am | Permalink
    “The House has voted to prohibit coverage of abortions in a new government-run health care plan.”

    Millions more unwanted babies will be brought into the world. Let’s hope all those in favor of eliminating funding for abortions have their names on the list to adopt these babies born from extremely poor women (girls) who cannot even afford the $200 bucks for an abortion

    ——————–
    Amway I have a novel idea that no one has thought of yet. Instead of funding abortions as a form of birth control why don’t we hold Planned Parenthood responsible for spending the billions that go to that group yearly in a way that will help control conceptions.

    Before I hear about the rapes and incest abortions please do your homework and see how few of the abortions preformed are for these reasons.

    We give out so much tax money to so many different groups that we fail to remember that those groups are actually supposed to do something to earn that money.

    Saying that to block funding for abortions will result in many unwanted babies is like saying that there is no such thing as birth control.

  87. Pleefer
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:08 am | Permalink

    “It’ll be interesting to see what happens in the Senate. Health Care Reform isn’t the law of the land until it gets through the Senate. I’d be very surprised if Dems can get enough Dems to vote for it to pass.”-XXX

    Sorry man,

    It’s already passed the Senate, they just haven’t told you yet.

    No one wanted the stimulus bill or the TARP but we all got it anyway. This government ain’t ours anymore.

    Vote out ALL incumbents.

    One of my favorite bands, singing one of their best songs:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJF547Mv62A

    Vote With A Bullet

    The number in nations
    The god in their hearts
    The justice in swine
    The devil in God

    VOTE

    This long hand that breaks our backs
    Still casting shadows on all that we see
    Unjustified… mercy killing is just a feeling
    To keep our numbers from being free

    (Chorus)
    Prison for praise is not worth thinking
    Sin is still in and our ballots are shrinking
    So unleash the dogs – the only solution
    Forgive and forget, f**k no
    I’m talking about a revolution

    The prophet man’s got a needle in his hand
    Draws his dreams from your soul – bleeding
    Minds into sand
    The year of the fear has arrived decades too late
    And our right to stand and fight is now
    Solely sealed in fate

    (Repeat first chorus)

    One last chance mission with a vision
    ‘Cos our lives are just cards in their stack
    Our time is short but theirs is shorter
    How much longer can they hold us back

    (Chorus)
    Prison for praise – the obvious answer
    Once had power mad – living disaster
    Don’t f**k with me ‘cos I’m on a freedom train
    That bears no name – this time
    I’m voting with a bullet

    This view they once knew made our nooses too tight
    This justice in swine
    This devil in god

    So God bless my soul – I’ve got total control
    And the crosshairs lined up dead in my sight

    I’m voting with a bullet

  88. Freebird1971
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    But you sure as heck need to for those that abrogate their personal responsibility, and not leave society as a whole to become responsible

    Some here believe that is exactly what society’s role should be,fortunately they are in the minority

  89. JimJohnson
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:11 am | Permalink

    sursum
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:49 am | Permalink
    Freebird1971:Under single care, abortions are covered if performed in a hospital with the advice and consent of 3 doctors who understand the procedure to be to-wards the health of the mother.

    ————————————————–

    So if there is a doctor shortage and you can’t find 3 doctors, then will the opinion of 5 nurses be acceptable?

    If 5 nurses are not around, perhaps the opinion of 7 janiotors and 3 nurses and 1 doctor would be acceptable?

    If in a very small town, there are not even 3 people nearby to offer opinions, would the barks of 12 dogs, screeches of 11 cats, and hissing of 9 snakes suffice?

    Do you think the People of a Free Country should have such onerous rules, regulations and laws?

  90. okobserver
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:11 am | Permalink

    Poor cosmos I threw out something for which you had no canned response. Hope you can get the machinery back on track before long.

  91. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:11 am | Permalink

    “It will cost the taxpayers more in the long run for all the support payments to these unwanted babies. The cost in crime and prison is an added bonus.”

    Or maybe one will be the one to find a cure for cancer, or contribute to benefiting the human condition in other ways.
    Why does an innocent child deserve to die simply because of the irresponsibility of their parents?

  92. JimJohnson
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    sursum
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:49 am | Permalink
    Freebird1971:Under single care, abortions are covered if performed in a hospital with the advice and consent of 3 doctors who understand the procedure to be to-wards the health of the mother.
    ———————————

    How much will the Government ObamaCare pay these 3 doctors to examine the patient and provide an opinion regarding abortion and whether it would be paid for or not?

  93. JimJohnson
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    sursum
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:49 am | Permalink
    Freebird1971:Under single care, abortions are covered if performed in a hospital with the advice and consent of 3 doctors who understand the procedure to be to-wards the health of the mother.

    ———————————-

    Who completes the paperwork to confirm the diagnosis, and where do they send it to be reviewed and approved by ObamaCare? How many people will be paid by ObamaCare to make this one decision?

  94. cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    okobserver,

    Your posts don’t really deserve responses. . . but I gave you an short and accurate response.

  95. JimJohnson
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    JimJohnson
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:18 am | Permalink
    sursum
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:49 am | Permalink
    Freebird1971:Under single care, abortions are covered if performed in a hospital with the advice and consent of 3 doctors who understand the procedure to be to-wards the health of the mother.

    ———————————-

    Who completes the paperwork to confirm the diagnosis, and where do they send it to be reviewed and approved by ObamaCare? How many people will be paid by ObamaCare to make this one decision?

    ———————————-

    How many people are paid to audit the paperwork, to make sure it was filed correctly, and reviewed by ObamaCare and the correct order was actually followed?

    Are these all the jobs Obama promises to create?

  96. JimJohnson
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    Okobserver,

    Cosmos is begging for attention.

    Please notice him, or he will cry.

  97. American_Way
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    “Saying that to block funding for abortions will result in many unwanted babies is like saying that there is no such thing as birth control.”

    820,151 abortions reported* in 2005 (CDC).

    How many of these were funded by other than the mother?

    Abortions and ethnicity
    Abortions are much more common among minority women in the U.S. In 2000-2001, the rates among black and Hispanic women were 49 per 1,000 and 33 per 1,000, respectively, vs. 13 per 1,000 among non-Hispanic white women.[25]

    [edit] Reasons for abortions
    In 2000, cases of rape or incest accounted for 1% of abortions.[26] Another study, in 1998, revealed that in 1987-1988 women reported the following reasons for choosing an abortion:[27]

    25.5% Want to postpone childbearing
    21.3% Cannot afford a baby
    14.1% Has relationship problem or partner does not want pregnancy
    12.2% Too young; parent(s) or other(s) object to pregnancy
    10.8% Having a child will disrupt education or job
    7.9% Want no (more) children
    3.3% Risk to fetal health
    2.8% Risk to maternal health
    2.1% Other

    According to a 1987 study that included specific data about late abortions (i.e. abortions “at 16 or more weeks’ gestation”),[28] women reported that various reasons contributed to their having a late abortion:

    71% Woman didn’t recognize she was pregnant or misjudged gestation
    48% Woman found it hard to make arrangements for abortion
    33% Woman was afraid to tell her partner or parents
    24% Woman took time to decide to have an abortion
    8% Woman waited for her relationship to change
    8% Someone pressured woman not to have abortion
    6% Something changed after woman became pregnant
    6% Woman didn’t know timing is important
    5% Woman didn’t know she could get an abortion
    2% A fetal problem was diagnosed late in pregnancy
    11% Other

    http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5713a1.htm

    *which I’m told reporting is not mandatory.

  98. American_Way
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    Table 9. Reported public expenditures for abortions (in 000s of dollars) and number of publicly funded abortions, by funding source, according to state and state funding policy (as of October 1, 2001), FY 2001

    STATE Expenditures
    Total Federal State Total Federal State
    U.S. Total $72,707 $233 $72,473 168,601

    No. of abortions

    Fed: 83 State: 168,518

    http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fpfunding/tables.pdf

  99. American_Way
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    Okobserver you would be correct in that under present law, not many abortions were funded by federal dollars but I’d say that was because of legal restrictions in place.

    How many would have been paid for under the democrats healthcare Act – which would provide broader coverage for women at LE Federal Poverty level? Unknown.

    I cannot support my “millions of unwanted babies” post.

    Thanks

  100. okobserver
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    Amway for many it isn’t even the cost involved. Many feel that the taking of an unborns babies life is criminal or should be.

    Many people feel this way that dont’ attribute it to their religious beliefs. Life if precious to many. This is much more a moral issue than an insurance issue which is why it was singled out to be excluded.

    Morals can’t be legislated. The heart must be changed to affect these.

  101. American_Way
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    broader coverage for women at LE 400% Federal Poverty level?

    $148,000.00 a year.

  102. okobserver
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    Amway I know our schools have nearby clinics where birth control is available. With so many planned parenthood clinic around why aren’t we reaching those unable to ‘afford’ birth control.

    It seems we are going at this thing all wrong. Do we want to control cost or just provide abortion coverage? That is a symptom of what is wrong with this plan as written.

  103. okobserver
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    Final football game of the season. Gotta run.

  104. Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    Nothing about the reality of the current health coverage reform issue has anything to do with objections CONs throw up (obvious “vomit-licking dogs reference intentionally ignore) to legislation at hand.

    We get red herrings such as “Canada-Care,” or “French-Care” or “In Iraq they don’t get government-financed health coverage….

    Oh wait…

  105. Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    The Republicans excluded most of the Democratic conferees, except for two key centrist Senate Democrats who supported the legislation to begin with.”

    ===================
    So DavidB, your definition of being locked out physically and by party is including two Democratic Senators in a conference.

    You must have a different definition of ‘locked-out’ than I and 99.999 perecent of the public do.

  106. sursum
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    Boxlock/Jim Johnson:Dunno about the paperwork/staffing thing as to reviewing cases for termination of pegnancies, but the extent you take the matter is silly. As to courts interperting the law in some special cases is exactly what a free society is all about, you know checks and balances? I personally have never been exposed to the matter and have no idea how it will or should be handled, just relating my understanding of what I was aware of and for some reason, I thought I was contributing to the conversation!

  107. Posted November 8, 2009 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    “Life if precious to many.”

    Uh huh. To the end of the birth canal. Then their concern evaporates.

  108. cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    okobserver,

    Your denial of AGW science is an excellent example of Republicans and conservatives lacking curiosity.

    If you had any curiosity, you’d research the issue, and learn that you’re wrong.

  109. DorisKing
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

    It wasn’t long ago on this blog that I was talking about looking for fishing waders on the internet, and received the next day several e-mails offering wader deals. I believe it was Baux who said he disabled cookies so he would not be bothered with such stuff. My point is if you are in the market for waders, you might want to see what companies were offering. In other words, curiosity so flatlined that conservatives do not even want to see what they are looking for.

  110. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    #
    Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:22 am | Permalink

    I don’t know why you waste you time and Blog space posting those Monkey, I doubt anybody looks at them. I have yet to open even one.
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

    I enjoy them. Blog space really isn’t at a premium is it? You’ve yet to open even one, why not?

  111. Phantom
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    We’ve taken a big half step in joining civilized societies with a health care bill being passed by the house, Is this a great country, or what?

  112. Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    ‘fishing waders’ and political ideology…

    Only in a Lib’s deluded mind could they connect the two.

  113. satatom
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    Regular exemplifies the typical right wing con who is unable to connect two ideas.

  114. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    #
    Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:10 am | Permalink

    I’ve seen the tripe Monkey posts on more than enough occasions….I’m sure those were as useless as the others. Only the ignorant would continue to waste time with them.
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

    Why do you hate Glenn Miller and his orchestra?

    I have no idea what you actually look like, but when I read your posts I hear the voice of and see the face of this man.

    http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/9f97a7a4a3.jpg

    :)

  115. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    Daniel,
    Yours is another nic I simply ignore for the most part and will not open your links….wo waste you time.

  116. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    “I believe it was Baux who said he disabled cookies so he would not be bothered with such stuff.”….DDDDDoris

    You believe wrong again DDDDDDoris.

  117. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:14 am | Permalink

    49.4 Percent of United States Representatives in Congress did not have a say in the health care bill. This total includes moderate Democrats…

    220 – 215 vote

    I expect that voters in 2010 will let Democratic Congressman know their fillings of being taxed without representation.
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

    What do you mean by they ‘did not have a say?’ They voted and they lost, they’ll probably get over that fact before you will.

    And aside from U.S. citizens who reside in the District of Columbia, who the heck is being taxed without representation?

    Pure ‘hyperbowl’ at its finest.

  118. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    #
    Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    ….wo waste you time.
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

    lol wut?

  119. XXX
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    Did you know that opening links on a blog is a security risk?

  120. Posted November 8, 2009 at 2:50 pm | Permalink

    I suspect ol’ “Boxlock20″ is lying when he claims he never connects with my early Sunday morning links.

    But, on the outside chance he actually “ignores” them, he personifies the word “ignorant.”

    So he hates Bugs Bunny and Glenn Miller and other stuff simply because he “ignores” ‘em.

    Ha!

    So typical of WE Blog CONs.

    WE Blog CONs don’t ignore stuff that’s spoon-fed to them by the Pox Noise Channel and talk radidiots. They’re left on their own on the weekends and strut how they ignore stuff and, left to their own devices, prove their, y’know, ignorance.

    For one who claims to ignore my Sunday Morning ritual, ol’ “Boxlock20″ somehow felt moved to object to — I would guess — this morning’s sermon.

    But the ol’ guy most certainly couldn’t have ignored it.

  121. Posted November 8, 2009 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    “did not have a say in the health care bill”????

    What a crock. This bill was built like all bills are, following the rules of the House of Representatives of the United States of America.

    Various committees marked up their bills, Democrats and Republicans are on all the committees. The Energy and Commerce Committee, last count I heard of, included over 120 Republican sponsored amendments.

    The rules of the House are the rules of the House, like it or lump it.

    To say that nearly half the House had no say in the bill is false and disrespects the process. It’s always been said making laws is like making sausages. It’s not pretty. But it’s the American system.

  122. sursum
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    I wonder what % of the polulation was reflected in those who voted for vs against the bill?

  123. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    Stewart’s portrayal of Beck was spot on. Of course, it’s probably not that challenging to caricature a cartoonish figure such as Beck.

  124. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    “I suspect ol’ “Boxlock20? is lying when he claims he never connects with my early Sunday morning links.”–Monkey

    You can suspect all you want and you’ll still be wrong….as you are on so much.
    You simply have an over inflated sense of ego and self-importance to be able to understand there are many who couldn’t care less what you think or post.

  125. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    “So he hates Bugs Bunny and Glenn Miller and other stuff simply because he “ignores” ‘em. “–Monkey

    I don’t hate either….I simply know that almost anything you put up is not worth the time to look at.

  126. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    sursum,

    Since all House districts are proportioned equally by population, the percentages would be 51.6 for and 49.4 against.

    Now the Senate is a different matter where Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s vote and Sen. Mike Enzi’s vote are worth the same even though she represents millions and he represent hundreds of thousands.

  127. Posted November 8, 2009 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    Right, “Boxlock20″ –

    If you’d ignored all my early Sunday morning posts, why the contempt for them?

  128. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    “….wo waste you time.
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    lol wut?”–Daniel

    ‘…wo waste you time’, should read ’so waste your time’.
    You see, I don’t give you enought credit to even slow down or proof before posting….oh I do with many, you simply don’t rank that high.

  129. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    #
    Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    You simply have an over inflated sense of ego and self-importance to be able to understand there are many who couldn’t care less what you think or post.
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

    Monkeyhawk,

    The fact that he couldn’t care less about you or what you post is precisely the reason that he spends so much time posting to you and about you.

    Ha!

  130. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    “If you’d ignored all my early Sunday morning posts, why the contempt for them?”–Monkey

    Not them….you!

  131. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    #
    Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    “….wo waste you time.
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    You see, I don’t give you enought credit to even slow down or proof before posting….oh I do with many, you simply don’t rank that high.
    ==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

    Oh, I see. I suspected that it was just tough for you to keep your fingers on home row on your spittle-flecked keyboard.

    My mistake.

  132. Posted November 8, 2009 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

    Poor ol’ “Boxlock20″ is reduced to attacking the messenger instead of the message –

    Your Sunday Morning cartoon is almost impossibly apolitical.

    Your Sunday Morning hymn goes off in all directions. Bob Wills was featured a couple of weeks ago.

    Your Sunday Morning sermon has included stuff even I don’t always agree with.

    But ol’ “Boxlock20″ brags about his hatred of all, simply because I post a few links.

    Yeah. That’s the rational approach.

    You seem so wound up at the dead-solid fact I post here you’re incapable of dealing with what, y’know, I actually post.

    But don’t tell me or any of your WE Blog friends you “ignore” them.

    It’s obvious you don’t.

    Or else it’s obvious you choose to post about stuff you don’t have any idea what you’re talking about.

    Stick to your area of expertise. Like Thomas Jefferson’s presidency “from January 20, 1777 to January 20, 1781.”

    That’s the closest to accurate you’ve ever been, “Boxlock20.” Build on your intellectual victories.

  133. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    “Your Sunday Morning cartoon is almost impossibly apolitical.
    Your Sunday Morning hymn goes off in all directions. Bob Wills was featured a couple of weeks ago.
    Your Sunday Morning sermon has included stuff even I don’t always agree with.
    But ol’ “Boxlock20? brags about his hatred of all, simply because I post a few links.”

    You just don’t get it do you Monkey…..I DON’T CARE TO OPEN YOUR STUFF.
    I have very little respect for you and what you represent and feel no need to open any link you put up unless I want to, and as I said my interest in what interests you is zilch. The use of the word ‘zilch’ amounts to this; ‘A person regarded as being insignificant; a nonentity’.
    Again, your grossly inaccurate sense of importance is staggering.

  134. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    “Stick to your area of expertise. Like Thomas Jefferson’s presidency “from January 20, 1777 to January 20, 1781.” ”

    Your continued use of that is another example of your complete impotence here. That was not my statement, and you know it, but simply a copy and past from another site, and another author. I don’t put quotation marks around what others have posted and then change it to my liking even if it’s incorrect. Those dates had nothing to do with the subject being discussed, as you well know, but was embedded in what the other wrote.
    Haven’t you got anything more important than that to throw out…..guess not, you’re impotent after all.

  135. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    #
    Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    “Stick to your area of expertise. Like Thomas Jefferson’s presidency “from January 20, 1777 to January 20, 1781.” ”

    That was not my statement, and you know it, but simply a copy and past from another site, and another author. I don’t put quotation marks around what others have posted and then change it to my liking even if it’s incorrect. Those dates had nothing to do with the subject being discussed, as you well know, but was embedded in what the other wrote.

    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

    It doesn’t take but a nickel from Monkeyhawk and you dance like a clown. Fun!

    Ha!

  136. Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    It doesn’t take but a nickel from Monkeyhawk and you dance like a clown. Fun!
    =====================
    Odd, I thought you Libs wanted civility on this blog.

    Yet you, MonkeyHock, BlueJay and others are constantly taughting and stirring up cr@p.

    Appears that you Libs are the problem after all.

  137. Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    taunting not taughting

  138. Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    U.S. Senate – House Health Care Reform – Dead on Arrival

    The House bill is dead on arrival in the Senate,” Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said on CBS’ “Face the Nation,” noting that 39 Democrats “bailed out” on the bill Saturday night. “It was a bill written by liberals for liberals. … So the House bill is a non-starter in the Senate.”

    The Senate is not considering the House bill at the moment. The chamber has its own version of the legislation, which includes a different version of a government-backed health insurance plan, or “public option,” and different funding mechanisms. But the differences between the two bills would have to be reconciled should the Senate approve its proposal.

    Plus there are lingering bipartisan concerns in the Senate about the version Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid introduced weeks ago, raising questions about how quickly the bill can be brought to the floor.

    Independent Democratic Sen. Joe Lieberman told “Fox News Sunday” that Democrats can certainly count him in the “no” column if they keep in a government-backed insurance plan.

    Fox News

  139. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    #
    Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    It doesn’t take but a nickel from Monkeyhawk and you dance like a clown. Fun!
    =====================
    Odd, I thought you Libs wanted civility on this blog.

    Yet you, MonkeyHock, BlueJay and others are constantly taughting and stirring up cr@p.

    Appears that you Libs are the problem after all.
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

    Boxlock20 is a Lib, now?

    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/11/open-thread-117-4/#comment-691498

    (chortles)

  140. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    What NOW, Regular? What NOW?

  141. cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    boxlock20 doesn’t open Monkeyhawk’s links, because boxlock20 is a “conservative”.

    DorisKing posted November 8, 2009 at 7:59 am

    A key to conservatism is flatlined curiosity. They don’t want to know anything new, or see anything different.

  142. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    Here Monkey and Daniel, let me explain it in the simplest of terms that maybe, just maybe, you will be able to understand. I’ll use an analogy.

    I like to go for short walks. I live in the nice northeast corner, and my community has sidewalks and paths all through the commons areas around the pool, tennis courts and athletic fields that I like to walk.
    Others, who have dogs, walk their dogs along those sidewalks and paths as well.
    Unfortunately some don’t pick up their animals droppings as they should and they are occasionally found on and along the walkways.

    This blog represents those walkways that I like to occasionally explore, and you Monkey and Daniel represent the turds that are found there. I don’t stop my walk just because there is a smelly turd occasionally….no I either step around it or kick it off the walk out of the way.
    Get it….your posting here Monkey, and occasionally Daniel, are nothing more than smelly turds alone the way as far as I’m concerned. I ignore some and kick some away.

  143. cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    Regular posted November 8, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    It doesn’t take but a nickel from Monkeyhawk and you dance like a clown. Fun!
    =====================
    Odd, I thought you Libs wanted civility on this blog.

    Yet you, MonkeyHock, BlueJay and others are constantly taughting and stirring up cr@p.

    <b?Appears that you Libs are the problem after all.
    ———————————-

    Regular,

    Is boxlock20 a “Lib”?

    Or did you the ignore the fact of who was “taughting and stirring up cr@p” at at 7:22 and 8:10 am?
    ——————–

    boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:22 am | Permalink

    I don’t know why you waste you time and Blog space posting those Monkey, I doubt anybody looks at them. I have yet to open even one.
    ——————-

    boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:10 am | Permalink

    “A key to conservatism is flatlined curiosity. They don’t want to know anything new, or see anything different.”–presumptuously dumb Doris

    I’ve seen the tripe Monkey posts on more than enough occasions….I’m sure those were as useless as the others. Only the ignorant would continue to waste time with them.

  144. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    Boxlock20,

    Regular called you a “Lib.”

    I think you should teach him a lesson by inviting him to meet you in a public place, chicken-out and not show, and then loudly proclaim that you ‘punked’ his stoopid azz by not showing up.

    That’ll teach him to call you a filthy Lib.

  145. cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    boxlock20,

    You didn’t answer my question yesterday.

    What ridiculous, non-scientific excuse(s) to deny AGW science will you use if the long-term warming trend resumes during the next few years?
    And resumes despite lower solar activity.

    Have you thought of an answer yet, boxlock20?

    boxlock20 believes that science is learned from “experience”, and that AGW science is a “‘pig-in-a-poke’ hoodwink”.

  146. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    cosmos, you humorless child, did you open those links?
    From the description Monkey himself gave up thread they were a waste of time.

    “Your Sunday Mornint[sic] cartoon –”
    “Your Sunday Morning hymn –”
    “Your Sunday Morning sermon –”

    Now does that sound like anything to waste one’s time with knowing it comes from a, er, Monkey.

  147. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    “You didn’t answer my question yesterday. “–the humorless child

    Hold you breath child, hold you breath till I begin taking orders from you.

  148. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

    Daniel,
    One, I would never try to punk Regular, and undoubtedly couldn’t, but it is sooooo easy with a DimLib immature jerk like BlueJay.
    And he deserved it for constantly challenging people to met that he disagrees with.
    Call it what you will….but he learned a lesson.
    I taught him.

  149. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    Oh Daniel and by the way, I didn’t challenge BlueJay once, ever! He was and is the one doing that and calling anyone who doesn’t accept a coward.
    I simply got fed up with it and said ‘okay be there, you name it BlueJay’, and he comes back with “Dillion’s parking lot at noon”.
    Geeze, what a line….from a dork.

  150. cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 5:03 pm | Permalink

    LOL!

    boxlock20 attacks Monkeyhawk’s funny links (yet again), and then calls me a “humorless child”.

    boxlock20 thinks that my question was an “order”. LOL!

    And I don’t expect boxlock20 to answer my 4:44 pm question — my post was making fun of her/his ignorant denial of AGW science.

  151. Posted November 8, 2009 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

    For someone who pays no attention to me, ol’ “Boxlock20″ sure appears to expend a lot of emotional energy my direction.

    And ol’ “Regular” is ready to place upon my head the crown of the Blogosphere’s Greatest Coward if I don’t meet him at someplace called Toc’s Wednesday morning. But he somehow resists meeting me in the middle of the night at the edge of an empty field of his choosing so he can frog-march me in and put a bullet in my skull.

    Hey. We all have busy schedules.

    I have one of the more flexible schedules of anyone I know. I’ve adjusted same at least three times to meet up with prominent WE Blog CONs only to have them renege at the last minute.

    As appealing as it seems to take the Blogosphere’s Biggest Coward crown home and melt it down for all the gold and jewels I’m sure it contains, I fear I am not worthy of the honor.

    And, unlike, “Boxlock20″ apparently, I have this nasty little habit of actually reading the stuff I post to this forum. For “Boxlock20″ to squirm and whine and whiz and moan that he didn’t know he was proclaiming Thomas Jefferson’s presidency occurred “from January 20, 1777 to January 20, 1781″ tells us just about all we need to know about the depth of knowledge and insight we can expect from him.

    Unlike some WE Blog CONs, this forum isn’t all that important in my life. I have better things to do and drop by occasionally.

    I have to keep the tencil on the toad, after all. Someone has to do it.

  152. parkay
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    “The Obama White House and top congressional Democratic leaders spent months concealing and misrepresenting provisions that would directly fund abortions through a government plan, and subsidize premiums for private abortion plans. Today’s bipartisan House vote is a sharp blow to the White House’s pro-abortion smuggling operation. But we know that the White House and pro-abortion congressional Democratic leaders will keep trying to enact government funding of abortion, and will keep trying to conceal their true intentions, so there is a long battle ahead.”
    . . . NRLC Legislative Director Douglas Johnson
    - – -

    A new boycott list of Planned Parenthood collaborators, published by Life Decisions International, includes such abortion promoters as Buffalo Wild Wings (restaurants), Estée Lauder (cosmetics/personal care products), Computer Sciences Corporation (information technology), and United Parcel Service (shipping services). Continued boycott targets include EBay, Wells Fargo (including Wachovia), Nike, Time Warner (HBO, AOL, etc.), Bank of America, Walt Disney, Johnson & Johnson, Lost Arrow (Patagonia, etc.), Chevron, and Nationwide Insurance, and Sonic (restaurants). An expanded “Dishonorable Mention” section identifies charitable groups that are associated with Planned Parenthood either through donations or joint programs, including AARP, Lions Clubs, the American Cancer Society, Camp Fire, Girls Inc., Girl Scouts, Kiwanis Clubs, the March of Dimes, the Muscular Dystrophy Association, Rotary Clubs, the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation, the Salvation Army, the YWCA, and YMCA.

  153. parkay
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    Leftist Homeland Security Czar Janet Napolitano says her agency is working with groups across the United States to try to deflect any backlash against American Muslims following Thursday’s rampage by fanatic Muslim jihadist Nidal Malik Hasan.
    How about somebody working for a change to prevent violent terrorist attacks on us and our troops by fanatic Muslim jihadists?
    Meanwhile, DHS has issued revised 287(g) agreements between DHS’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) division and state and local law enforcement. Under the new guidelines, ICE must pre-approve any information released regarding the efforts of local police to enforce federal immigration law. In essence, it’s a gag order, which DHS says is to protect the privacy of illegal aliens.
    How about somebody protecting us from dangerous illegal alien thieves, drug dealers, rapists, and murderers for a change?
    - – -

    Ft. Hood jihadist shooter Hasan attended the fanatic Muslim Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, in 2001 at the same time as two of the September 11 terrorists.
    The preacher at the time was Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born Yemeni scholar who was banned from addressing a meeting in London by video link in August because he is accused of supporting attacks on British troops and backing terrorist organisations.
    Dangerous fanatic Muslim clerics are clearly fomenting acts of domestic terrorism against Americans and American troops, as well as British, and must be investigated, stopped, imprisoned, and deported.
    The U.S. military was warned for years that jihadist Hasan was a ticking time bomb in the ranks of the U.S. military officer corps. See, you bend over backwards to be tolerant of Muslims, and you get more violent terrorist attacks from them.
    At least 1000 Muslims have infiltrated the U.S. military to undermine it and give aid and comfort to the enemy – Muslim terrorists.
    Better hurry up with those bunker-buster bombs for Iran’s nuclear weapons facilities.
    - – -

    Various anti-American and anti-British Muslim fanatic groups are hailing Ft. Hood jihadist shooter Hassan as their hero.
    This calls for a widespread investigation and roundup for imprisonment and deportation of dangerous Muslims who are threats to our safety and national security.

  154. cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    XXX posted November 8, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    Did you know that opening links on a blog is a security risk?
    ————————

    All 3 of Monkeyhawk’s links at the top of the thread have a WOT ratings of “excellent”.

  155. cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    Monkeyhawk posted November 8, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    And, unlike, “Boxlock20? apparently, I have this nasty little habit of actually reading the stuff I post to this forum. For “Boxlock20? to squirm and whine and whiz and moan that he didn’t know he was proclaiming Thomas Jefferson’s presidency occurred “from January 20, 1777 to January 20, 1781? tells us just about all we need to know about the depth of knowledge and insight we can expect from him.
    ——————–

    boxlock20 lacks the curiosity to even read what s/he her/himself posts.

  156. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    “For someone who pays no attention to me, ol’ “Boxlock20? sure appears to expend a lot of emotional energy my direction. “–Monkey

    Not really, I’m home with a cold and there is little on T.V. so I amuse myself poking at you Monkey because you squeal so much.

    And as I said, whether I read my own posts or not, I don’t change what another person has posted that I have put in quotation marks….that’s lying. But I guess you don’t even realize it as it’s such a habit for you. And that is exactly what you are doing when you attribute those Jefferson dates to me, as well as show yourself to be rather trivial and insignificant.

  157. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    XXX posted November 8, 2009 at 2:38 pm
    “Did you know that opening links on a blog is a security risk?”

    Exactly! And considering the source even more so. Very little to gain and maybe plenty to lose….at the least the time.

  158. Pleefer
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    “The first towns grew up less then 600 years ago.”-Glenn Close (narrating the movie “Home”)

    I love all of the “Qatsi” films, I love “Baraka”. “An Inconvenient Truth” was inconvenient. But this “Home” film…c’mon. Towns are only 600 years old? That doesn’t even give the Bible thumpers their due (at least they think in terms of 6000 years).

    That line in “Home” was around 23 minutes into the film…I turned off the sound at that point. Get your propaganda straight Glenn because Ur was around at in at least the 3rd century BC.

    I was looking forward to a decent Sunday movie nacht, guess not this time.

  159. XXX
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 5:36 pm | Permalink

    #
    cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    XXX posted November 8, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    Did you know that opening links on a blog is a security risk?
    ————————

    All 3 of Monkeyhawk’s links at the top of the thread have a WOT ratings of “excellent”.
    _____________________________

    Oh, dry up!

  160. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    Say cosmos, how many ‘nerd protectors’ do you wear at one time?

  161. cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    XXX,

    The WE blog only has a WOT rating of “good”.

  162. cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    boxlock20 posted November 8, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    Say cosmos, how many ‘nerd protectors’ do you wear at one time?
    ———————

    boxlock20, do you oppose using WOT? If so, why?

  163. cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    boxlock20 posted November 8, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    I simply got fed up with it and said ‘okay be there, you name it BlueJay’, . . .
    ——————————

    boxlock20 exhibits another trait of conservative Republicans –

    Blaming others for their own behaviour and actions, instead of accepting personal responsibility.

  164. Posted November 8, 2009 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    “Boxlock20″ shares –

    “…whether I read my own posts or not….”

    ‘Nuf said.

  165. Pleefer
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 6:32 pm | Permalink

    I’ve been thinkin’ here whilst watching this “Home” film.

    Global warming is exactly what we need to get rid of a few extra million people that are causing the global warming.

    Let the ice melt, flooding all of these major coastal and highly populated metropolises. Tokyo, NYC, LA, Hong Kong and so on…

    Think of the billions gone, “poof”! Just like that. After we get rid of most of the real problem (humanity), then we can move on.org to start correcting things. But why waste this crises? What irony it could be!

    What do you think Cosmo? Pretty good thinking eh?

  166. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    Blaming others for their own behaviour [sic] and actions, instead of accepting personal responsibility.—cosmos

    cosmos, I ASK you a question….how many nerd protectors do you wear at once?
    You are constantly asking me mindless questions now you answer that one, I am sure many would like to know and are taking bets.

    “…whether I read my own posts or not….”
    ‘Nuf said.”—Monkey

    Notice how the chimp needs to take it out of context to make it appear as he wants? That of course is his way of lying.
    As I explained Monkey my quoting another person, and placing their comments in quotation marks, does not make me responsible for editing that which does not apply but was included. I have no license, as you feel you do to edit others words and attribute it to them.
    And you know, as does everyone here, that YOU are the one that said I don’t read my posts, I was simply responding to your statement that it makes no difference IF I am quoting someone else. Again…you are trivial and petty….as well as a proven liar.

  167. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    “Blaming others for their own behaviour and actions, instead of accepting personal responsibility.”—cosmos

    Ohhhhh, I accept personal responsibility all right, been doing that all along. I punked an immature jerk and got a laugh out of it.
    I don’t meet asinine hotheads in parking lots to settle disagreements.
    Is that something you would do cosmos child? Answer that question……?

  168. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

    #
    Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    I don’t meet asinine hotheads in parking lots to settle disagreements.
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

    I agree, it is silly.

    However, just because Regular called you a ‘Lib’ doesn’t make it right for you to refer to him as an ‘asinine hothead.’

    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/11/death-penalty-review-promised/#comment-691768

    Ha!

  169. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:14 pm | Permalink

    Can’t we all just get along?

    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/11/death-penalty-review-promised/#comment-691804

    (chortles)

  170. Pleefer
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    Ahhh, the simple and cute intellect of the voting population.

    Not really.

    This video pretty much nails the unique predicament we as Americans find ourselves in.

    Hey and ya’ll, it’s short too!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk5aRIz17fk&feature=player_embedded

    http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html

  171. sursum
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    Too many of these posts have no lesson, they merely lessen….ALL OF US.

  172. Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    Box posted on the Blog his agreement to meet Blue Jay, in a grocey store parking lot… He apparently didnt show… THEN, returns to the Blog, and INSISTS he had no intention of showing up, when he agreed to show up…

    That would make Box — at the very LEAST –unreliable… I wont say a “liar” but perhaps the right word is “slightly twisted” –

    RE: Boxlock20

    DO NOT accept what he says with crecibility.

  173. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    “What do you think Cosmo? Pretty good thinking eh?”–Pleefer

    Pleefer, as you can see from the delay cosmos isn’t going to answer your question….he just asks them as if he’s in charge.
    I think you’ve got a good plan though, lets just wait for ‘nature’ to take it’s course and correct things naturally. After all the Earth is big enough to care for itself, one way or another, and will do so without asking our permission by the way.

    Hey what do you think of this idea to reduce the population and man’s contribution to AGW? We get cosmos, and all his ‘peer reviewed’ buddies, to say that the Earth is going to suffer a catastrophic meteor shower that will lay utter devastation on the planet. Then the global warming hysterics set off multiple thermonuclear devices in those populated areas of the world where the more conservative, independent, self-sufficient and producing populations are and reduce the impact man has on the environment by wiping them out. And the Libs could get rid of the Conservatives at the same time.

    Or how about the world simply outlaw tractors and other mechanized agricultural equipment. The CO2 would go down, the population would die off and all would be well with the AGW hysterics.

  174. Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    Daniel stealing my signature (chortles)

    - figured you’d be a mocker and thief

  175. Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    ooops cecibility = credibility (typo)

  176. cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

    boxlock20 posted November 8, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    I don’t meet asinine hotheads in parking lots to settle disagreements.
    Is that something you would do cosmos child? Answer that question……?
    —————–

    boxlock20,

    Unlike you, I would not lie, and falsely agree to meet somewhere.

    And unlike you, I would not blame another person for causing me to lie.

    But boxlock20 believes that it’s okay to lie, and not accept personal responsibility — boxlock20 is a Christian, and a conservative Republican.

  177. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    #
    Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    Notice how the chimp needs to take it out of context to make it appear as he wants? That of course is his way of lying.
    ==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=

    I agree. Taking comments out of context to make it appear as one wants is a form of lying.

    Anyone who posts links to such drivel should be considered to by liars as well, don’t you think?

    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/11/open-thread-117-4/#comment-691531

    Ha!

  178. Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:21 pm | Permalink

    Between Daniel and MonkeyHock, they’ve set the blog back about two years.

    If you need to take some hostility out, come see me, I have a fully loaded attitude adjuster. :)

  179. Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:21 pm | Permalink

    Box & BlueJay… I would like to suggest that both of you… AND the rest of us(you too cosmos), just agree to DROP this entire episode… and put it far away in a file that isnt used very often…

    That way we wont have to keep going back to the parties involved regurgitating the same old same old, over and over, ad infinitum, ad nauseum….

    I will NEVER mention this particular situation again…

  180. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:23 pm | Permalink

    “THEN, returns to the Blog, and INSISTS he had no intention of showing up, when he agreed to show up… “—Chas

    And posted from the lobby of where I was getting get my car’s oil changed before on the hour BlueJay had chosen so as to show how much of a fool BlueJay is.
    Chas I don’t have to sit and take BlueJays challenges and accusations of cowardice if I can do something about it….I can, AND I DID, HA!

  181. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:23 pm | Permalink

    #
    Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    Daniel stealing my signature (chortles)

    - figured you’d be a mocker and thief
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    Not stealing, just borrowing.

    Imitation is the sincerest form of mockery.

  182. Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:23 pm | Permalink

    That way we wont have to keep going back to the parties involved regurgitating the same old same old, over and over, ad infinitum, ad nauseum….

    ===================
    Agreed Chas, the taunting by some Libs is becoming intolerable and indicates just how childish they are.

    For once, okay more than once, I agree with you on this matter.

  183. Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    Not stealing, just borrowing.

    Imitation is the sincerest form of mockery.
    ———————–
    I’ll slap the ‘taste’ out of your mouth!

    Not really sure what that means, but Bill Cosby said it once.

  184. Pleefer
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:28 pm | Permalink

    Hey check this out…Israel’s into a little payback with the work camps:

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1126057.html

  185. Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Reg. — I think… :-))

    BTW, I was watching a dog show today… The pooch that won the “hound” portion is a little fella, some kind of weird name… He is a “barkless” breed — but the commentator said he makes a sound described as a “chortle” or a “yodel”… This particular dog’s trainer said that this one is a “chortler”

    Thought you might find that mildly amusing… I know I did… :-))

  186. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

    #
    cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

    But boxlock20 believes that it’s okay to lie, and not accept personal responsibility — boxlock20 is a Christian, and a conservative Republican.
    ==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

    Be patient, I’m sure Boxlock20 will be along shortly with some scriptural quote from the Book of Nehemiah to justify his breaking of the ninth Commandment.

  187. Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:31 pm | Permalink

    And with that said, now begins an evening of a TEXAS HOLIDAY… Cowboys Vs. Eagles… on NBC… Y’all have a good evening…

  188. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:32 pm | Permalink

    And Daniel,
    Obama said everyone of those things on that video, nothing was added to his voice, and his actions tend to point to just where the video suggests.

    Chas, for once your suggestion make sense. I didn’t start this round, but I damn sure am willing to finish it.

    Why don’t you quit acting like a little yappy dog that’s peeing on himself cosmos? You’re such a bore.

  189. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:32 pm | Permalink

    #
    Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    Not stealing, just borrowing.

    Imitation is the sincerest form of mockery.
    ———————–
    I’ll slap the ‘taste’ out of your mouth!

    Not really sure what that means, but Bill Cosby said it once.
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

    I’ve always preferred, “I’ll slap you so hard, your KIDS will be born dizzy!”

    Don’t no where it came from, but I’ve always liked it.

  190. RoaCH
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    Did someone here have the link to lindainks55 new blog?

  191. cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    boxlock20 posted November 8, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    “What do you think Cosmo? Pretty good thinking eh?”–Pleefer

    Pleefer, as you can see from the delay cosmos isn’t going to answer your question….he just asks them as if he’s in charge.
    I think you’ve got a good plan though, lets just wait for ‘nature’ to take it’s course and correct things naturally. After all the Earth is big enough to care for itself, one way or another, and will do so without asking our permission by the way.
    —————————–

    Pleefer,

    Since that’s your suggested solution — before the coastal flooding starts, you and your family should move to the coast. Ask boxlock20 and her/his family to go with you.

    boxlock20,

    Earth will continue warming due to human-added GHG’s, without asking our permission — and many people may die due to problems caused by AGW.

    Since you’re a Christian, you can “bless” those that die due to AGW in the future, if you want to.

  192. Pleefer
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    The unemployment rate throughout the Great Depression was 20%. Dig?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/07/business/economy/07econ.html?_r=3

    And we ain’t even close to bottoming out yet.

    Toldja so.

  193. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:21 pm | Permalink

    Between Daniel and MonkeyHock, they’ve set the blog back about two years.
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

    Two years? Perfect!

    I’m just doing my part to help create a pre-Obama oasis for the WE Blog CONS to help soothe the inevitable sting that comes with them being excluded from the ‘other’ blog.

    I do what I can.

  194. cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:38 pm | Permalink

    Regular posted November 8, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    Agreed Chas, the taunting by some Libs is becoming intolerable and indicates just how childish they are.
    ——————————-

    One of Regular’s “Libs”.

    boxlock20 posted November 8, 2009 at 7:22 am

    I don’t know why you waste you time and Blog space posting those Monkey, I doubt anybody looks at them. I have yet to open even one.

  195. Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:38 pm | Permalink

    Box,

    With ref. to your “video” posting above >>>

    The Bible says “Cain killed Abel” or, “slew” Abel, however you like to put it…

    The Bible ALSO says “Go therefore and do likewise.”

    So, thus, we are all supposed to kill(slay) our brothers if we think their blessing is better than our own??

  196. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:40 pm | Permalink

    Being excluded from a dumba&& liberal blog…..thank you, oh thank you.
    I can think of nothing more mind numbing and hellish than to be there.

  197. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    Chas,
    Just what I and everyone would expect out of a heretic faux preacher.
    You have zero spiritual insight to scripture, or at least never show it.

  198. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:44 pm | Permalink

    Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:32 pm | Permalink

    And Daniel,
    Obama said everyone of those things on that video, nothing was added to his voice, and his actions tend to point to just where the video suggests.
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

    True, but you wrote everything that Monkeyhawk quoted from your post. I thought your issue was with his taking your comment out of context in order to give it a meaning different from what was intended.

    You honestly can’t see how this same criticism could be leveled at the person who put together those quotes from President Obama at your link?

  199. RoaCH
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:46 pm | Permalink

    What’s the other blog? I don’t care about your inbred fighting here on this blog anymore. I just want to get to Linda’s new blog.

  200. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    Daniel,
    Don’t be so damn dumb, Monkey took what…a few words, and his words originally at that, that I was commenting on, and attributed those to me, the video provided much more and backed it up with supporting info.

  201. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    “What’s the other blog? I don’t care about your inbred fighting here on this blog anymore. I just want to get to Linda’s new blog.”

    Don’t let the door hit you in the a&& there Roach.

    And yes Daniel, I can see your point and respect it to a point, but I have sincere and serious doubts about Obama and fear for what he may do to this country.

  202. cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    Daniel posted November 8, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    You honestly can’t see how this same criticism could be leveled at the person who put together those quotes from President Obama at your link?
    —————————

    boxlock20 probably can’t — s/he is a conservative Republican, and a “Christian”.

  203. Freebird1971
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    Hey Chas
    I agree with you thoughts above,sadly I have been guilty of the same behavior,all I can say is I’m going to try to avoid the behavior.
    On a more serious not I have heard that the homes in Texas are bugged just so the make sure you are still behind the Cowboys even when you are not in public.

  204. Freebird1971
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    not=note

  205. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    #
    Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    And yes Daniel, I can see your point and respect it to a point, but I have sincere and serious doubts about Obama and fear for what he may do to this country.
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

    Fair enough….you’re certainly not alone with your concerns.

  206. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    “s/he is a conservative Republican, and a “Christian”.”–cosmos

    There’s that damn little pi&&y yapping dog again.

  207. Freebird1971
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    #
    Chas
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:38 pm | Permalink

    Box,

    With ref. to your “video” posting above >>>

    The Bible says “Cain killed Abel” or, “slew” Abel, however you like to put it…

    The Bible ALSO says “Go therefore and do likewise.”

    So, thus, we are all supposed to kill(slay) our brothers if we think their blessing is better than our own??

    Interesting thought,The Bible also says thou shalt not kill,think I’ll go with that and take my chances on the likewise thing.

  208. Pleefer
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

    “Since you’re a Christian blah blah blah, blather, blather, blather”…-Cosmoid

    [cue buzzer sound]

    WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You’re information is inaccurate and misleading. As usual.

    If you need a hint on where my “beliefs” fall…here:

    http://www.deism.com/deism_defined.htm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism

    I don’t discount your religious beliefs of AGW, I merely state that the facts are NOT all in on the subject. I state that your religion’s leaders chooses to
    become BILLIONAIRES by forcing the rest of the world to buy THEIR credits.

    I completely agree with finding alternate sources of energy, they are out there to find and develop. I agree that we’re scarring the Earth but the Earth ignores us. All of those lost cities and temples in South America, buried by a reclaiming jungle are a simple example. I resent you and your cult for trying to tax me for breathing. Your dogma is no more proven than the popes’ is.

    Talk about forcing religion down somebody’s throat.

  209. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:01 pm | Permalink

    Daniel,
    Thank you, and fair enough to you as well.
    I think I’ll call this a round and take a break, at least till I’m bored with T.V.
    Or I feel like coming back and kicking that stinking little yappy dog once more before bed.

  210. satatom
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:01 pm | Permalink

    Look out Eagle!!!!!!!!

    http://www.kake.com/kakelanddaily

  211. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    Pleefer, dad-gummit guy, your post above is sure right on tonight!!!
    Amen!

  212. Pleefer
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Boxlock…

    I’m just venting like everyone else. =]

    If Al Gore can sell indulgences…call me Martin Luther.

  213. RoaCH
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

    Boxlock.

    You still suck.

    Daniel.

    You still suck.

    Now, do I fit in enuf for one of you to tell me where Linda posts now?

    Dammit do I have to call you all slimy pukes to get some assistance here? Is that what it takes on the WEBLOG? I gotta be insulting, and insulting enuf?

    How bout just a little hep here.

  214. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:16 pm | Permalink

    RoaCH
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

    Boxlock.

    You still suck.

    Daniel.

    You still suck.

    Now, do I fit in enuf for one of you to tell me where Linda posts now?
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=–=-=-=-=

    I’ve lost the link. I don’t post over there. Google ‘populist progressive prairie’ and that should get you close.

  215. Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    “Call it what you will….but he learned a lesson.
    I taught him.

    Huh? Like everyone else I already KNEW bowlock20 “bawwks” was a liar and an idiot. You just taught me that a man with no principle can be made to do anything.

  216. Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    Hoo BOY old bawks has been putting on one heckuva show today huh?

    And I wasn’t even here to jab him with a stick.

    Sad to think that cranky whackaloon is somebody’s grandpa. I bet bawks kids have to PAY their kids to be nice to crazy cranky grampy bawks!

  217. RoaCH
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Daniel you prick.

    Now what’s Linda’s new NIC? I heard they all assume new NIC’s to post “over there”? NIC switching is a good thing, or somfin like that.

    JR still lurking about here? I’ll betcha he’s got this blog purty much to himself by now. Just as well, him and his good left hand are tight or so I heard. Chicken choken tight.

    No one left here but those who enjoy insulting each other.

  218. Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

    ‘Bud DAAADD! He smells. I don’t wanna sit on his lap!”

    “You’ll do it and like it! I don’t want him leaving his money to my sister!”

  219. Freebird1971
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

    Seems like there are several here who would seem to have a severe case of diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the brain

  220. Freebird1971
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    substitute keyboard for mouth

  221. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    And I learned BlueJay was ‘dumb as a post’ easy, small brain and big mouth. Just how long did you stand in that cold parking lot BlueJay…ha ha.
    As I recall you hadn’t figured out you’d been had until someone on the blog told you, you couldn’t figure that out yourself even.
    Your kid even thought it was funny until you got on him for thinking that according to you. He sounds more mature than is lazy parasitic dad. I hope he doesn’t take up stealing, and treating women like you BlueJay, I really do.

  222. Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:43 pm | Permalink

    YOU seem to be the one who can’t get past that day bawks. And the story seems to change EVERY time you tell it.

    I believe you called your no show on me “one of the proudest moments of my life” or words to that effect. How very empty your life must be…

    If lying to even yourself makes you feel better about it go ahead on. I don’t know that you could reliably even REMEMBER the truth anymore. I think we both know you didn’t win any friends or enhance your by them already destoyed credibility that day. SEVERAL cons, rooting you on suggested it was I who would not show up. They sure got mighty quiet when you let them down!

  223. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    RoaCH
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Daniel you prick.

    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=–=-=

    You’re welcome, RoaCH you chicken choking tri-sexual goat raper.

  224. Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    And I see reading here today, your little stunt seems to have defined you to the other bloggers. It’s what you are MOST known for. You’re the man that wasn’t there!

    And that among SO many other not so proud moments for you!!

  225. RoaCH
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    Goat? Did someone say goat? Wherez it?
    Stop distractin’ me.

    Anyway, I’m lookin for Lindas new NIC……

  226. Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    Such a beautiful day today. I’m so glad to hear that bawks was under that weather. And the kids didn’t visit.

    That’s how it starts ya know. The old man is sick and the kids don’t care,…

    Then some day ya fall down and can’t get up…

    Before ya know it, the kids will be getting power of attorney and putting their name to all your assets.

    So they can get ya Medicaid and put you in a nice quiet nursing home. Oh they’ll PROMISE to visit!

  227. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    BlueJay,

    You forgot to put something about Obama’s Marxist Death Panels on the end of that post.

  228. Freebird1971
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    Roach,

    Quick over there! a goat choking his chicken

  229. Pleefer
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    BlueJay spells out the new healthcare. But replace the spoiled kid with the government bureaucrat and then you’ve nailed it!

    Anyone who has been unemployed recently and has tried to call the call center…they know what I’m talkin’ about!

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh boyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

  230. Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    Oh I don’t need to do that Daniel.

    Give bawks a LITTLE credit for imagination. He shows such promise in that department!

    I can imagine old bawks. Lying there in the tender care of folks who clean up after him, and give him his meds while they earn minimum wage. Many of them will be people of color other than white and THAT will make it even worse from his perspective. He’ll be what they call a combative resident. Every little needle they bring to him he’ll be shouting “What’s in it? What’s in it?”

  231. Freebird1971
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:20 pm | Permalink

    Pleef,

    The way he talks about getting his kid out of the house I think he is looking into his own future re the nursing home and promised visits

  232. RoaCH
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    Bluejay, you will post anything to get a rise still.

    Whatever it takes to get your rocks off.

    Some cons are on to you. Others still get their own little rise in their Levi’s responding to your ignorance.

    Enjoy it while you can. The smart one’s have already wised up to you.

    There is no point letting you master bait to any responses to you. You are less than an animal in value.

    Your time is limited. Enjoy the cons who stimulate you still.

  233. Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    I volunteer at nursing homes from time to time.

    I see LOTS of people like bawks is gonna end up. SO secure in their empire over matter and the pursuit of their own greed.

    But at the end, and it is often a lingering end, they are left to the tender care of just the sort of people they have abused all their lives. To the credit of most nursing home workers, they tolerate the transition of arrogant, selfish, often racist and once powerful or at least comfortable people to being wards of their former victims VERY charitably.

  234. RoaCH
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    Beggars change nothing in life. They only beg. The internet has provided them new joys and toys.

    And ignorant basturds stupid enough to make eye contact.

  235. Pleefer
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    With what we’re leaving our children…Hell for that matter what my dumbazz generation is gonna be getting out of all of this, we’re ALL going to end up warehoused and forgotten. And I won’t blame them in the least.

    They’re going to hate us if they aren’t forced to have history books talk about “the terrorist Founding Fathers” and how freedom left in the hands of an individual is a sin against the world.

  236. Freebird1971
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    RoaCH,
    Took me me a while to figure it out but you are dead on in your last 2 posts.

  237. RoaCH
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    JR/Bluejay/JR/JM you were going to save the world. Now you have to lie about volunteering. There aren’t enough hours in the day for you to volunteer.

    You are much too busy stroking your chicken on the WEBLGO when your son isn’t lookin’.

    You can be anything you want to be on a blog and people are stupid enuf to believe.

    Like a HERO. Like saving the world. Say! Isn’t that what you claimed when you reemerged here?

  238. Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    RoaCH= ‘Regular”

  239. Freebird1971
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    I thought Amway was Regular,nevermind,I remeber now he said he wasn’t Regular today and I suggested he incriase his fiber intake so RoaCH could be Regular, I don’t know but if RoaCH isnt Regular then I would suggest taking the advice given to Amway.

  240. Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:47 pm | Permalink

    Well James, posts from you and many various nics you have admitted to posting under would certainly be more interesting to law enforcement than anything I have to say. Threatening break and enter, murder, shooting at cars on Kellogg….

    Probably NOT the smartest thing to remind of your earlier and disturbing fixation on Linda on this very thread.

    But law enforcement need not be bothered. Without much effort at all, your infrequent ventures away from your house are fairly well noted!

  241. RoaCH
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    Freebird1971, so you are a survivor? Listen up. I don’t give a damn what you think. If you really have half a brain you might be smart enuf to realize no one gives a damn what you think.

    But you want to call me names or play the silly blog games of putting personality on NIC’s, then you are just as crazy as the rest of em.

    Living in your own little blog world. Hope life happens upon cuz it ain’t gonna happen because of you.

    Idiot.

  242. Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    THIS could be fun.

    A multiple personality disorder attacking in two directions!

    Paranoia will destroy ya.

  243. Regular
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    I still see that I’m BlueJay’s bogie man.

    What a ret@rd

  244. Freebird1971
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    RoaCH,
    Lighten up “Francis” geez you need to go find out who stole your sense of humor and see if you can get it back

  245. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    Notice how BlueJay has to use negative imaginative scenarios to try an get to me….interesting.
    What a loser to have to imagine my harm or discomfort.
    Sorry BlueJay but I don’t have to do that with you, you see your present condition, which you alone are responsible for, is your own just reward for you attitude, which I is what I would have predicted.

    I didn’t bring up your continual annoying challenges to meet, and my finally punking you for it. No…I think that little pi&&-ant yappy dog cosmos did. I just responded with the facts.

  246. Pleefer
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    Weird.

  247. Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    Oh look, the “man” who wasn’t there is back. SAFE from the nursing home for another week?

  248. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Oh and BlueJay,
    I’m not very uncomfortable, simply a cold, but I am considerate enough to stay away from people, even those I don’t know, to not risk harming them.
    I doubt you ever consider anyone but yourself….what a shame, therein lies you misery.

  249. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    RoaCH,
    It’s you that seems to be fixated on that. How do you do it and type at the same time?

  250. Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    “but I am considerate enough to stay away from people”

    Denial. People (the kids) are avoiding him. But he is doing them a favor. (martyr complex).

  251. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    Well, I’m out’a here, I want to be long gone before RoaCH reaches his….uh, well what he seems to be fixated on.

  252. Freebird1971
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    #
    Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    RoaCH,
    It’s you that seems to be fixated on that. How do you do it and type at the same time?

    ________________

    I was about to post the same question

  253. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    Ah BlueBrain, my grandkids live in a different city, and one is in another country as an exchange student. Where’s your kid…not spending time with you I’d venture, he’s learning what you are.
    Try to rain in that harmful imagination or wish complex of yours.

  254. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:08 pm | Permalink

    rain = rein

  255. Boxlock20
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    “I was about to post the same question”–Freebird

    Yeah, it’s pretty obvious he has a ‘little’, pun intended, problem alone those lines.

  256. Freebird1971
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

    Box,

    Watch yourself upthread I discovered s/he has no sense of humor. Maybe instead of going blind if you do it to much you lose your sense of humor.

  257. Freebird1971
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    BlueBrain as in not enough o2 getting there?

  258. Daniel
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    Freebird1971,

    I think that RoaCH didn’t read your 9:43 pm in the spirit in which it was made.

  259. Freebird1971
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    Daniel
    Hope so

  260. cosmos_originally
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:17 pm | Permalink

    Pleefer,

    What were you ranting about? I didn’t call you a “Christian”.

    There isn’t any credible science to refute the increasingly stronger AGW theory.

    Al Gore isn’t a billionaire from carbon — and he donates the profits from his books and documentary.

  261. Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:28 pm | Permalink

    Look –

    I’m on record for not giving rat’s ass about sock-puppets and nym-changing.

    But when every WE Blog CON trots out the same memes and cliches when discussing “BlueJay,” there’s either a grand conspiracy afoot or one multi-nymed poster piling on his own one-man m@sturb@tory fantasy.

    I don’t care which it is. Either is pretty sick and insane.

    That’s the CONs’ comfort zone: sick and insane.

  262. Boxlock20
    Posted November 9, 2009 at 6:48 am | Permalink

    BlueJay deserves every bit of rebuke he receives, but I am glad this thread is winding down and hope it doesn’t repeat….at least to the same level.
    Hey BlueJay, you’ll be glad to know I am feel much better than yesterday and last night. Wow, only a one and a half day cold….not bad.
    I knew you’d be so happy for me and that it wasn’t a deadly pneumonia or H1N1.

  263. Posted November 9, 2009 at 6:55 am | Permalink

    It’s your kids and grandkids marking time til ya drop bawks. They’ll be more sorry you’re feeling better than I am. Maybe

    Well, maybe.

  264. Boxlock20
    Posted November 9, 2009 at 7:59 am | Permalink

    “It’s your kids and grandkids marking time til ya drop bawks.”–BlueJay

    May kids and grandkids are simply wonderful people, not the scum you are BlueJay.
    They can think far beyond themselves, which you are unable to do except to go after what others have.
    You are a really a sorry person BlueJay, but I take comfort in knowing it isn’t by happenstance that you find yourself on the bottom rung of society, but out of your attitude to not climb higher on your own.

  265. Regular
    Posted November 9, 2009 at 8:02 am | Permalink

    Monkeyhawk
    Posted November 8, 2009 at 11:28 pm | Permalink
    Look –

    I’m on record for not giving rat’s ass about sock-puppets and nym-changing.
    ————————
    That’s because you got caught and outted by ANTI.

  266. Pleefer
    Posted November 9, 2009 at 8:42 am | Permalink

    “Pleefer,

    Since that’s your suggested solution — before the coastal flooding starts, you and your family should move to the coast. Ask boxlock20 and her/his family to go with you.

    boxlock20,

    Earth will continue warming due to human-added GHG’s, without asking our permission — and many people may die due to problems caused by AGW.

    Since you’re a Christian, you can “bless” those that die due to AGW in the future, if you want to.”-Cosmo

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    Sorry Cosmo, my bad, I didn’t see the change over there…

    I was kind of wondering where you came to the assumption that I was “Christian”.

    Btw,
    There is no credible science to refute the wormhole theory either.

    When your “theories” become fact, feel free to tax us until then all you’ll be able to accomplish is an angry population.

  267. cosmos_originally
    Posted November 9, 2009 at 10:13 am | Permalink

    Pleefer posted November 9, 2009 at 8:42 am

    There is no credible science to refute the wormhole theory either.

    When your “theories” become fact, feel free to tax us until then all you’ll be able to accomplish is an angry population.
    ———————–

    Pleefer,

    The wormhole theory is not a threat to humans.

    Climate change is a threat to humans.

    The AGW theory is already strongly supported by observations.