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House debate and possible vote today on transformative legislation to protect Americans and lower future deficits. This could be a great, historic day for American progress.
Yawn….no David, it would be another, or should I say ‘mother’ of the greatest hoodwinks the Dim’ocrats have pulled on the American people to further enslave them to their control.
On this date, Nov 7th
1805 Lewis & Clark 1st sight Pacific Ocean
1837 Abolitionist Elijah Lovejoy murdered by mob at Alton, Ill
1874 1st cartoon depicting elephant as Republican Party symbol, by T Nast
1951 – At 7 AM a blinding flash, a huge ball of fire, and a terrific roar occurred over parts of Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas, caused by a disintegrating meteor. Windows were broken in and near Hinton OK by the concussion. (The Weather Channel)
1967 President Lyndon B. Johnson signed a bill establishing the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
Notable Quotes
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do.
– Benjamin Franklin
Odd Facts
There are no clocks in Las Vegas gambling casinos!
The first product to have a bar code was Wrigleys gum,
If you counted 24 hours a day, it would take 31,688 years to reach one trillion!
Holidays and Special days Coming Up
Wednesday, November 11 Veterans Day
Thursday, November 26 Thanksgiving Day
Friday, December 25 Christmas Day
Just because you live in a Republican State, does not mean you cannot contact the democrat leadership in Congress and/or the White House.
The white house telephone lines are ALREADY clogged this morning. Their servers are crashing.
But you CAN email or call the democrats and tell them to vote NO on Obamacare:
http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/senators/a_three_sections_with_teasers/leadership.htm
Remind them you will be sending campaign donations to their challengers.
Just because you live in a Republican State, does not mean you cannot contact the democrat leadership in Congress and/or the White House.
The telephone lines are ALREADY clogged this morning. Their servers are crashing.
But you CAN email or call the democrats and tell them to vote NO on Obamacare:
The House is in session this morning already. Their Staff is answering the phones.
http://www.house.gov/house/orgs_pub_hse_ldr_www.shtml
Remind them you will be sending campaign donations to their challengers.
The tail end of this thing looks bad. We are in for worse I fear. It’s time to change course Obama.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/assets_c/2009/11/11-09-unemployment.php
I thought I already have a ribbon for service during the Cold War. Now I guess I will be out of uniform in my burial dress blues if this passes. Heck if I’m going to go buy the new medal, possibly another ribbon AND a bigger ribbon bar.
Guess you will have to make me do pushups on heavens shore.
NEW BILL TO HONOR COLD WAR VETERANS
“This week introduced the Cold War Service Medals Act of 2009, bipartisan legislation to authorize the secretaries of the military departments to award Cold War Service Medals to American veterans. To date, no medal exists to honor the men and women who served and defended the United States during the Cold War. From the end of World War II to dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, the Cold War veterans were in the vanguard of the Nation’s defenses. Although long overdue, this legislation will honor and recognize the American patriots who for nearly half-a-century defended the Nation against the advance of communist ideology in the form of the Cold War Service Medal. The commitment, motivation, and fortitude of these brave service members was second to none and their actions should be recognized in a long-standing military custom befitting their patriotism and service.”
“The tail end of this thing looks bad.”
“To make the case for a big stimulus package, they released their economic forecast for the next few years. Without the stimulus, they saw the unemployment rate — then 7.2 percent — rising above 8 percent in 2009 and peaking at 9 percent next year. With the stimulus, the advisers said, unemployment would probably peak at 8 percent late this year.”
“I believe that legislation of this enormous magnitude, that by necessity we are moving quickly — we’re not moving quickly because we’re trying to jamb something down people’s throats. We’re moving quickly because we’re told that if we don’t move quickly, that the economy is going keep on getting worse, and we’ll have another 2 or 3 or 4 million jobs loss this year.”
“Never let a crisis go to waste”
I actually agree with Obama on this one:
“If the people cannot trust their government to do the job for which it exists – to protect them and to promote their common welfare – all else is lost.”
I’m thinking we are nearing the “all else is lost” point.
NEW BILL TO HONOR COLD WAR VETERANS
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I got the certificate, don’t care about the medal – but might buy it and put it on my ‘atta-boy’ board of ribbons and medals, then shove it back in the drawer.
No really cares anyway, especially on this blog.
Commentary from a couple of threepers who attended the rally in D.C. on Thursday.
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3) The capitol police were very visible and very highly armed, carying M4’s. They also appeared to me to be a little on edge, much more so than on 9/12.
“People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their People.” Looks like things might be moving back in the right direction in DC.
November 6, 2009 8:23 AM
Anonymous said…
It’s not about “health” or even “care” – it’s about POWER! How many would dare speak against the regime knowing THEY get to decide whether you live or die?
I had a hard time concentrating on the speakers because I just couldn’t stop focusing on some other things.
I counted 11 snipers on the roof of the end of the Capitol building nearest where I was standing. I found it hard as hell to listen knowing I was in someone’s crosshairs.
I made a point of pointing this out to as many sheeple as possible: “You want to know what they think of you? Count the snipers on the roof right there.”
What was truly amazing to me was the number — all — who reacted in total horror and hadn’t even noticed them. Total “condition white.”
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Regular
Posted November 7, 2009 at 8:38 am | Permalink
NEW BILL TO HONOR COLD WAR VETERANS
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I got the certificate, don’t care about the medal – but might buy it and put it on my ‘atta-boy’ board of ribbons and medals, then shove it back in the drawer.
No really cares anyway, especially on this blog.
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I wouldn’t know where to put the new ribbon. I don’t think I’ve seen my “tac board” for years. I know where my DD214 is, LOL!
Of course AARP supports the HC Bill. Their revenue was 339 million dollars from allowing insurance companies to use AARP logo on selling policies. Any member of AARP knows – the get junk mail constantly on HC from AARP. Something like 3-4 billion dollars of AARP revenue over the few years came from health care insurance.
So how does the democrats bill help?
The HC Bill cuts almost half a billion dollars from Medicare. That is the payments the Feds make to healthcare providers. Nevermind that many providers are already paid less in reimbursements from Medicare/Medicaid. Nevermind that just as sure as God made those little green apples – this cut in healthcare to seniors will result in fewer providers for seniors. In this topsy-turvy world of Obamaspeak -this is NOT a CUT and is an INCREASE. But I digress.
Part of the Obamacare medicare CUT includes drastic cuts and elimination eventually of the Medicare Part C, Medicare Advantage.
Millions of seniors have elected Medicare Advantage because it covers much of the out-of-pocket/copays that medicare doesn’t pay without having to pay for a private copayer policy.
Bottom line: If Obamacare passes – these millions of seniors will HAVE TO FIND NEW PRIVATE COPAYER’s and pay MORE for health insurance.
AARP sells insurance……
They don’t give a rats a zz about seniors. It’s the money honey.
Just a suggestion for other veterans, you can have your DD214 recorded down at the county courthouse. Permanently kept as a matter of record.
Whenever you need an “official” copy, you can walk into the Courthouse and they will make you a copy from the public record. (yes, a repro charge applies).
This is useful for young, or new vets. Young people move around a lot, don’t keep paperwork, and don’t always think about the future. Mom & Dad move, get old and forgetful, and periodically clean out the attic and the kids old room (and throw things away).
Just a suggestion.
I wouldn’t know where to put the new ribbon. I don’t think I’ve seen my “tac board” for years. I know where my DD214 is, LOL!
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Yeah, I keep mine in the same spot, bottom drawer of an old dresser.
Did you know you can register your DD214 at the County Clerk’s office. You should do that if you haven’t.
It gets you a stamped and signed certified registered copy, good for applications of all kinds.
The largest group of Ohio physicians oppose Obamacare:
“The Ohio State Medical Association, an affiliate of the American Medical Association, said the bill rightfully works to extend coverage to most Americans. But some provisions would harm providers, the association said, and in turn adversely affect health care in the United States.
Until the flaws are fixed, the Ohio association will oppose passage, said Dr. Roy H. Thomas, the association’s president and an Elyria ophthalmologist.
The association represents about 20,000 physicians, residents, medical students and practice managers. Thomas said the flaws in the latest House bill, introduced last week by Democratic leaders after months of committee work, include a perennial problem with payments to doctors under Medicare, the federal program that pays senior citizens’ health bills.
Under an attempt to create balanced budgets, federal law requires annual cuts in Medicare payments to doctors. However, many doctors say that if these cuts were to occur, they would lose so much money they’d have to stop treating Medicare patients. So Congress grants one-year exemptions every year.
Congress needs to fix the problem permanently, Thomas said, so the threat of double-digit cuts cannot cloud the treatment atmosphere. The House bill does not include a fix. Instead, House leaders want to deal with the matter in separate legislation, whose prospects are unclear.
The association’s other concerns include a provision to halt federal payments if doctors buy or start up hospitals. Critics say that when doctors have an equity stake, they can profit from every step of care, potentially leading to unnecessary referrals and cherry-picking of profitable patients. But Thomas said that doctor-owned hospitals provide some of the best care available and that the doctor-patient relationship already relies on trust, which is overwhelmingly earned and deserved.
The doctors’ additional concerns involve the lack of broad federal tort reform. They also fear a provision to expand Medicaid, the federal-state program that covers the poor. While the bill would improve Medicaid payments to doctors, who say the current rates are inadequate, the increases could disappear after two years, Thomas said.
“As physicians, we understand better than many others that the status quo of the health care delivery system is unsustainable,” Thomas said. “However, the total proposal lacks many of the critical elements necessary for successfully reforming America’s health care delivery system and strengthening the physician-patient relationship.”
Did you know????
Your employer can take out a life insurance policy on you.
No, not for your family, For the company. So if they succeed in working you to death they can collect on you.
Silly paranoids.
The Capitol is not supposed to be protected?
“Part of the Obamacare medicare CUT includes drastic cuts and elimination eventually of the Medicare Part C, Medicare Advantage.”
These are subsidies of Tax Money to Private Insurance Companies.
A recent study showed that these payments are actually buy far less medical care than they should or could. As I recall, something like 30% of this tax payer provided money is being skimmed off the top by Big Insurance.
BlueJay
Posted November 7, 2009 at 9:13 am | Permalink
Did you know????
Your employer can take out a life insurance policy on you.
No, not for your family, For the company. So if they succeed in working you to death they can collect on you.
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I don’t see anything wrong with that.
If the employer has a skilled craftsman of some time and he dies, they are going to be out of business until a new one can be trained or replaced.
Well you’ve never worked for a living Reg. So I don’t imagine you would see anything wrong with companies taking out insurance on their workers.
“These are subsidies of Tax Money to Private Insurance Companies.”
DavidB: So are subsidies for the Arts, so is ADC, so is food stamps, so CHIPS, as are most government entitlement programs
Democrats cry everytime a republican DARES to cut an entitlement.
But when democrats do it themselves – cut MEDICARE, then it’s A O.K.
And DavidB, just exactly WHO is going to pay for the NEW PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE these seniors will have to now buy to replace the cut program?
And it will cost seniors MORE.
Now you can try to justify it any way you want. But Advantage is the desired entitlement utilized by millions of seniors.
Democrats are going to take it away, and these seniors WILL pay more, and ultimately taxpayers will pay more.
Demcorats do not care about poor senior people.
BlueJay
Posted November 7, 2009 at 9:29 am | Permalink
Well you’ve never worked for a living Reg. So I don’t imagine you would see anything wrong with companies taking out insurance on their workers.
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I’ve had jobs, even after I left the military.
You assume way too much BlueJay.
No, I don’t see a see wrong with companies taking insurance out on their employees.
Well if companies can take out insurance on their employees?
How about employees being able to take out fire insurance on their employers? I mean if the work place burns down, shouldn’t the employee have some insurance?
•BlueJay
Posted November 7, 2009 at 9:36 am | Permalink
Well if companies can take out insurance on their employees?
How about employees being able to take out fire insurance on their employers? I mean if the work place burns down, shouldn’t the employee have some insurance?
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Yeah, they can do that to a certain degree. Being as the employee is not the proprieter, they have to insure the output of their employment.
Ever hear of AFLAC?
I forgot the name of the insurance, but anyone from Oil Rig workers to Hollywood actors buy an insurance in case their employment goes south – so they will have an income to take care of them until the next job.
BJ says “How about employees being able to take out fire insurance on their employers?
You may very well be able to do that. You just have to find someone willing to underwrite the policy.
Depending on the type of business it is the premium might be pretty low even.
Ever think how long it takes an employer to fully train an employee to skillfully do their job? Ever think that if that trained employee is no longer there do his job that the employer has train someone else? I would call life insurance on employees protecting your investment. Doesn’t cost the employee anything. This topic is just another case of people not minding there own business and just trying to stir up sheet.
There’s more to the story of course.
Shouldn’t an employer be required to tell employees ‘Hey I took out life insurance on you. You know, we gotta be covered if we work you to death,”
•BlueJay
Posted November 7, 2009 at 9:51 am | Permalink
There’s more to the story of course.
Shouldn’t an employer be required to tell employees ‘Hey I took out life insurance on you. You know, we gotta be covered if we work you to death,”
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Work them to death?
You ever get tired of being a ‘drama queen’ BlueJay?
Right-wing, paranoid, hypocritical, ex-military guy’s complaining about the health care bill that’s for poor folks who don’t have health care coverage, is just perfect. No little old ladies to push down today? No raping and pillaging to do today? I suppose you think you need a medal for being first class jerks don’t you? At one time, folks looked up to guy’s like you and now I wonder why. You guy’s are creeps and you should be ashamed of your smug selves.
If they so choose. I cant’ recall the last time I have hear of someone being worked to death,so I don’t think the point trying to be made is valid.
Tax money for Aid to Dependent Children does not go prop up profits of huge corporations, or does money to the Arts.
It goes to people. Funds now going to pad profits for Medicare Advantage programs will be more effectively spent for actual health care. Seniors will benefit.
Speaking of ‘drama queens’ check out the comments from thanksnothanks.
lol!
“health care bill that’s for poor folks”
The House Republican Conference has compiled a list of all the new boards, bureaucracies, commissions, and programs created in the House health care bill
The Republican conference describes H.R. 3962 as “Speaker Pelosi’s government takeover of health care.”
1. Retiree Reserve Trust Fund (Section 111(d), p. 61)
2. Grant program for wellness programs to small employers (Section 112, p. 62)
3. Grant program for State health access programs (Section 114, p. 72)
4. Program of administrative simplification (Section 115, p. 76)
5. Health Benefits Advisory Committee (Section 223, p. 111)
6. Health Choices Administration (Section 241, p. 131)
7. Qualified Health Benefits Plan Ombudsman (Section 244, p. 138)
8. Health Insurance Exchange (Section 201, p. 155)
9. Program for technical assistance to employees of small businesses buying Exchange coverage (Section 305(h), p. 191)
10. Mechanism for insurance risk pooling to be established by Health Choices Commissioner (Section 306(b), p. 194)
11. Health Insurance Exchange Trust Fund (Section 307, p. 195)
12. State-based Health Insurance Exchanges (Section 308, p. 197)
13. Grant program for health insurance cooperatives (Section 310, p. 206)
14. “Public Health Insurance Option” (Section 321, p. 211)
15. Ombudsman for “Public Health Insurance Option” (Section 321(d), p. 213)
16. Account for receipts and disbursements for “Public Health Insurance Option” (Section 322(b), p. 215)
17. Telehealth Advisory Committee (Section 1191 (b), p. 589)
18. Demonstration program providing reimbursement for “culturally and linguistically appropriate services” (Section 1222, p. 617)
19. Demonstration program for shared decision making using patient decision aids (Section 1236, p. 648)
20. Accountable Care Organization pilot program under Medicare (Section 1301, p. 653)
21. Independent patient-centered medical home pilot program under Medicare (Section 1302, p. 672)
22. Community-based medical home pilot program under Medicare (Section 1302(d), p. 681)
23. Independence at home demonstration program (Section 1312, p. 718)
24. Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research (Section 1401(a), p. 734)
25. Comparative Effectiveness Research Commission (Section 1401(a), p. 738)
26. Patient ombudsman for comparative effectiveness research (Section 1401(a), p. 753)
27. Quality assurance and performance improvement program for skilled nursing facilities (Section 1412(b)(1), p. 784)
28. Quality assurance and performance improvement program for nursing facilities (Section 1412 (b)(2), p. 786)
29. Special focus facility program for skilled nursing facilities (Section 1413(a)(3), p. 796)
30. Special focus facility program for nursing facilities (Section 1413(b)(3), p. 804)
31. National independent monitor pilot program for skilled nursing facilities and nursing facilities (Section 1422, p. 859)
32. Demonstration program for approved teaching health centers with respect to Medicare GME (Section 1502(d), p. 933)
33. Pilot program to develop anti-fraud compliance systems for Medicare providers (Section 1635, p. 978)
34. Special Inspector General for the Health Insurance Exchange (Section 1647, p. 1000)
35. Medical home pilot program under Medicaid (Section 1722, p. 1058)
36. Accountable Care Organization pilot program under Medicaid (Section 1730A, p. 1073)
37. Nursing facility supplemental payment program (Section 1745, p. 1106)
38. Demonstration program for Medicaid coverage to stabilize emergency medical conditions in institutions for mental diseases (Section 1787, p. 1149)
39. Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund (Section 1802, p. 1162)
40. “Identifiable office or program” within CMS to “provide for improved coordination between Medicare and Medicaid in the case of dual eligibles” (Section 1905, p. 1191)
41. Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation (Section 1907, p. 1198)
42. Public Health Investment Fund (Section 2002, p. 1214)
43. Scholarships for service in health professional needs areas (Section 2211, p. 1224)
44. Program for training medical residents in community-based settings (Section 2214, p. 1236)
45. Grant program for training in dentistry programs (Section 2215, p. 1240)
46. Public Health Workforce Corps (Section 2231, p. 1253)
47. Public health workforce scholarship program (Section 2231, p. 1254)
48. Public health workforce loan forgiveness program (Section 2231, p. 1258)
49. Grant program for innovations in interdisciplinary care (Section 2252, p. 1272)
50. Advisory Committee on Health Workforce Evaluation and Assessment (Section 2261, p. 1275)
51. Prevention and Wellness Trust (Section 2301, p. 1286)
52. Clinical Prevention Stakeholders Board (Section 2301, p. 1295)
53. Community Prevention Stakeholders Board (Section 2301, p. 1301)
54. Grant program for community prevention and wellness research (Section 2301, p. 1305)
55. Grant program for research and demonstration projects related to wellness incentives (Section 2301, p. 1305)
56. Grant program for community prevention and wellness services (Section 2301, p. 1308)
57. Grant program for public health infrastructure (Section 2301, p. 1313)
58. Center for Quality Improvement (Section 2401, p. 1322)
59. Assistant Secretary for Health Information (Section 2402, p. 1330)
60. Grant program to support the operation of school-based health clinics (Section 2511, p. 1352)
61. Grant program for nurse-managed health centers (Section 2512, p. 1361)
62. Grants for labor-management programs for nursing training (Section 2521, p. 1372)
63. Grant program for interdisciplinary mental and behavioral health training (Section 2522, p. 1382)
64. “No Child Left Unimmunized Against Influenza” demonstration grant program (Section 2524, p. 1391)
65. Healthy Teen Initiative grant program regarding teen pregnancy (Section 2526, p. 1398)
66. Grant program for interdisciplinary training, education, and services for individuals with autism (Section 2527(a), p. 1402)
67. University centers for excellence in developmental disabilities education (Section 2527(b), p. 1410)
68. Grant program to implement medication therapy management services (Section 2528, p. 1412)
69. Grant program to promote positive health behaviors in underserved communities (Section 2530, p. 1422)
70. Grant program for State alternative medical liability laws (Section 2531, p. 1431)
71. Grant program to develop infant mortality programs (Section 2532, p. 1433)
72. Grant program to prepare secondary school students for careers in health professions (Section 2533, p. 1437)
73. Grant program for community-based collaborative care (Section 2534, p. 1440)
74. Grant program for community-based overweight and obesity prevention (Section 2535, p. 1457)
75. Grant program for reducing the student-to-school nurse ratio in primary and secondary schools (Section 2536, p. 1462)
76. Demonstration project of grants to medical-legal partnerships (Section 2537, p. 1464)
77. Center for Emergency Care under the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response (Section 2552, p. 1478)
78. Council for Emergency Care (Section 2552, p 1479)
79. Grant program to support demonstration programs that design and implement regionalized emergency care systems (Section 2553, p. 1480)
80. Grant program to assist veterans who wish to become emergency medical technicians upon discharge (Section 2554, p. 1487)
81. Interagency Pain Research Coordinating Committee (Section 2562, p. 1494)
82. National Medical Device Registry (Section 2571, p. 1501)
83. CLASS Independence Fund (Section 2581, p. 1597)
84. CLASS Independence Fund Board of Trustees (Section 2581, p. 1598)
85. CLASS Independence Advisory Council (Section 2581, p. 1602)
86. Health and Human Services Coordinating Committee on Women’s Health (Section 2588, p. 1610)
87. National Women’s Health Information Center (Section 2588, p. 1611)
88. Centers for Disease Control Office of Women’s Health (Section 2588, p. 1614)
89. Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality Office of Women’s Health and Gender-Based Research (Section 2588, p. 1617)
90. Health Resources and Services Administration Office of Women’s Health (Section 2588, p. 1618)
91. Food and Drug Administration Office of Women’s Health (Section 2588, p. 1621)
92. Personal Care Attendant Workforce Advisory Panel (Section 2589(a)(2), p. 1624)
93. Grant program for national health workforce online training (Section 2591, p. 1629)
94. Grant program to disseminate best practices on implementing health workforce investment programs (Section 2591, p. 1632)
95. Demonstration program for chronic shortages of health professionals (Section 3101, p. 1717)
96. Demonstration program for substance abuse counselor educational curricula (Section 3101, p. 1719)
97. Program of Indian community education on mental illness (Section 3101, p. 1722)
98. Intergovernmental Task Force on Indian environmental and nuclear hazards (Section 3101, p. 1754)
99. Office of Indian Men’s Health (Section 3101, p. 1765)
100. Indian Health facilities appropriation advisory board (Section 3101, p. 1774)
101. Indian Health facilities needs assessment workgroup (Section 3101, p. 1775)
102. Indian Health Service tribal facilities joint venture demonstration projects (Section 3101, p. 1809)
103. Urban youth treatment center demonstration project (Section 3101, p. 1873)
104. Grants to Urban Indian Organizations for diabetes prevention (Section 3101, p. 1874)
105. Grants to Urban Indian Organizations for health IT adoption (Section 3101, p. 1877)
106. Mental health technician training program (Section 3101, p. 1898)
107. Indian youth telemental health demonstration project (Section 3101, p. 1909)
108. Program for treatment of child sexual abuse victims and perpetrators (Section 3101, p. 1925)
109. Program for treatment of domestic violence and sexual abuse (Section 3101, p. 1927)
110. Native American Health and Wellness Foundation (Section 3103, p. 1966)
111. Committee for the Establishment of the Native American Health and Wellness Foundation (Section 3103, p. 1968)
““health care bill that’s for poor folks””
Don’t let facts get in the way of your fantasy Thanks-No-Thanks:
Health Bill Will Hike Medicare Drug Coverage Premiums 20 Percent, Says CBO
(CNSNews.com) – If the health-care reform bill under consideration in the House of Representatives becomes law, seniors will pay Medicare prescription drug program premiums that are 20-percent higher than they
would be under current law, says the Congressional Budget Office.
The increase in premiums will start with an average 5-percent hike in 2011 and reach 20 percent by 2019.
The CBO estimated the increase in premiums in response to an inquiry from Rep. Dave Camp (R.-Mich.), the ranking Republican on the House Ways
and Means Committee, who wanted to know how changes to the Medicare system that are incorporated into the House version of the health-care reform bill would impact the premiums paid by seniors for their prescription drug benefit-known as Medicare Part D.
“Overall, CBO estimates that enacting the proposed changes would lead to an average increase in premiums for Part D beneficiaries, above those under current law, of about 5 percent by 2011,” CBO Director Douglas
Elmendorf said to Camp in a letter. “That effect would rise over time and reach about 20 percent in 2019.”
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/105xx/doc10543/08-28-MedicarePartD.pdf
Getting ready to watch the commisioning of the USS New York,built with 7.5 tons of steel from the WTC. Just one more thing that makes me proud to be an AMERICAN
the ships motto is Strength Forged Through Sacrifice,Never Forget. Once again makes me proud to be an AMERICAN
Terri Prejean, remember her?
You know. She was the right wings new pinup gal. The wannabe and current (for now) Miss California? The one who said that marriage should be between a man and a woman, God this God that, etc.?
She was to be the featured speaker at some family values…thing last night.
She didn’t make it.
LOS ANGELES (CBS/AP) Did the legal battle between former Miss California USA Carrie Prejean and pageant organizers suddenly conclude because organizers presented Prejean with a sex tape starring the religiously devout beauty queen?
Celebrity site TMZ says yes and CNN, last night, said a source with knowledge of the settlement confirmed it. Crimesider has no independent verification of the story at this time.
In August, Prejean sued Miss California USA organizers for libel, slander and religious discrimination. She accused them of telling her to stop mentioning God, even before she made controversial remarks against gay marriage.
Prejean was fired in June after pageant officials accused her of missing events, an allegation that she denied.
The pageant countersued Prejean last month, claiming the buxom blonde still owed them $5,200 for the breast implants they helped her buy.
The dueling lawsuits had the making of a showdown at the ok corral in a string bikini but the warring factions abruptly made peace on Tuesday.
A joint statement released yesterday says Prejean and pageant organizers reached a confidential settlement on both legal fronts and both parties “wish each other the best in their future endeavors.”
As for that alleged sex tape reportedly starring Prejean, if TMZ had the tape months ago, as the site claims, why didn’t they post it online or on air? TMZ Managing Editor Harvey Levin claimed in a Wednesday webcast that the tape, which he said features just Prejean, was too graphic for their taste.
Ouuch!
Heh
“Oh GOD!, ooh ooh oh GOOOOOD!”
American_Way posted November 7, 2009 at 8:33 am
“To make the case for a big stimulus package, they released their economic forecast for the next few years.
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Republicons like American_Way are very predictable. . .
‘Mistake by Obama’s Advisrs in Predicting job Losses’
Published: June 30, 2009
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/01/business/01leonhardt.html
In the weeks just before President Obama took office, his economic advisers made a mistake. They got a little carried away with hope.
. . .
Unfortunately, the administration’s rose-colored forecast has muddied this picture. So if at some point this year or next the White House decides that the economy needs more stimulus, skeptics will surely brandish that old forecast.
Worst of all, the economy really may need more help.”
Bloody hell, The unfunded, deficit enhancing Part D Bush put through?
“““health care bill that’s for poor folks””
Family Size Percent of Federal Poverty Level (FPL):
25% 50% 75% 81% 100% 133% 175% 200% 250% 300% 400%
1 $2,708 $5,415 $8,123 $8,772 $10,830 $14,404 $18,953 $21,660 $27,075 $32,490 43,320.00
2 $3,643 $7,285 $10,928 $11,802 $14,570 $19,378 $25,498 $29,140 $36,425 $43,710 58,280.00
3 $4,578 $9,155 $13,733 $14,831 $18,310 $24,352 $32,043 $36,620 $45,775 $54,930 73,240.00
4 $5,513 $11,025 $16,538 $17,861 $22,050 $29,327 $38,588 $44,100 $55,125 $66,150 88,200.00
5 $6,448 $12,895 $19,343 $20,890 $25,790 $34,301 $45,133 $51,580 $64,475 $77,370 103,160.00
6 $7,383 $14,765 $22,148 $23,919 $29,530 $39,275 $51,678 $59,060 $73,825 $88,590 118,120.00
7 $8,318 $16,635 $24,953 $26,949 $33,270 $44,249 $58,223 $66,540 $83,175 $99,810 133,080.00
8 $9,253 $18,505 $27,758 $29,978 $37,010 $49,223 $64,768 $74,020 $92,525 $111,030 148,040.00
(i>I have a hard time believing those with the income of 400% of FPL are poor folk
What part of 10.2 percent unemployment do you not understand cosMAO?
“Worst of all, the economy really may need more help.”
Cosmos tell us how Trickle up economics has bee working for ya.
What part of trickle down economics has worked for anyone?
Oh yeah, it’s probably been good to employers. Being able to take out insurance on their employees and all.
CBO Report
Having reviewed the 29/30 October CBO reports that democrats are relishing as support for their trillion + dollar healthcare reform, it is obvious that democrats stacked the deck to get the response they wanted.
It’s simple to trick the CBO.
First, front load the revenue enhancements (tax increases, penalties). Make these effective early in the ten year forecast window. This will increase federal revenues.
Second, back load the new spending programs (bet you wondered why the new entitlements don’t start for years). This starts the spending later in the ten year window CBO was asked to forecast deficit effects for the program.
Third, include false cuts: Cutting medicare payments to providers by 500 billion dollars. These are cuts proposed every year, but when the new year comes, Congress routinely and always overrules the cuts to doctors and hospitals.
In short, Obama and democrats are slick and are using deceitful legal gimmicks to make their program appear less costly than reality.
Finally, I have no illusions that democrats will back off their ultimate goal of socializing medicine in America. They do believe in their heart of hearts that a Canadian or British system is best for all of us.
So they will do everything they can short of that goal, to make it happen eventually.
All this talk and delay has been a show. They will be able to claim they “worked hard” to get it right. They will pretend to argue over the merits of funding abortions for the Christian Right democrats, when in effect it was always a bargaining chip added to appear to be compromise on “something”.
It will pass. The best for those of us opposed is that it will rattle an already disbelieving public. A public already like deer in the headlights on the rapid socialist changes Obama from the extreme far left is pushing.
In short, let’s hope it is a wakeup call for independents and republicans mad at Bush and his crew.
American_Way,
Please post credible, detailed facts showing exactly what our economy (and the global economy) would have done without the stimulus.
And then compare those to our current economic situation.
And as Obama and democrats continue to spend money faster than the printing presses can make it –
It’s the economy stupid
An interesting and insightful column.
‘Clive James isn’t a climate change sceptic, he’s a sucker – but this may be the reason
My fiercest opponents on global warming tend to be in their 60s and 70s. This offers a fascinating, if chilling, insight into human psychology‘
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/02/climate-change-denial-clive-james
Sorry Cosmos, I asked you first.
cosMAO writes: My fiercest opponents on global warming tend to be in their 60s and 70s. This offers a fascinating, if chilling, insight into human psychology
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Making assumptions without long term observation appears to be the norm for the Alarmist pseudo science of AGW.
Today maybe,THE day, as most know I’m awaiting the arrival of my first grandaughter. Just got a call from my daughter that contractions are 8 minutes apart,strong and regular
Dammit Regular! Bluejay will keep calling me an extra NIC for you if you keep posting the same thing as me!?!!
• American_Way
Posted November 7, 2009 at 9:08 am | Permalink
Just a suggestion for other veterans, you can have your DD214 recorded down at the county courthouse. Permanently kept as a matter of record.
• Regular
Posted November 7, 2009 at 9:10 am | Permalink
Did you know you can register your DD214 at the County Clerk’s office. You should do that if you haven’t.
Good luck (again) Freebird!!!
Hope she comes out well done and perfect!!
And of course your daughter be fine (if not tired of these false calls) too.
Freebird1971
Posted November 7, 2009 at 10:37 am | Permalink
Today maybe,THE day, as most know I’m awaiting the arrival of my first grandaughter. Just got a call from my daughter that contractions are 8 minutes apart,strong and regular
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PUSH!!!!
Good luck Freebird!
” fascinating, if chilling, insight into human psychology”
What is facinating about that?
Is your insight that seniors are older and wiser?
cosmos_originally
Posted November 7, 2009 at 10:30 am | Permalink
American_Way,
Please post credible, detailed facts showing exactly what our economy (and the global economy) would have done without the stimulus.
And then compare those to our current economic situation.
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Better yet Cosmos why don’t you show us what the stimulus HAS DONE for the economy?
With respect to cosmos’s above linked article on global warming (which doesn’t seem to be happening anymore), … “is it fanciful to suppose that those who are closer to the end of their lives might react more strongly against reminders of death?”
Or just maybe they have lived longer and have learned to recognize a ‘pig-in-a-poke’ hoodwink from experience.
“Cosmos why don’t you show us what the stimulus HAS DONE for the economy?”
American_Way
Posted November 7, 2009 at 10:34 am | Permalink
Sorry Cosmos, I asked you first.
Ditto
Freebird I am celebrating the 15th birthday of my beautiful granddaughter today. Hope you have one just as talented and beautiful as she is. To a grandparent I have to say that each of my eight grandchildren are beautiful/handsome and much smarter than the average bear. Born in Hawaii – she was the reason I got to see the islands 15 years ago. Now living in Colorado – close enough to see regularly.
Congrats in advance – my prayers are with your daughter and the new baby.
Hey Phantom! Pass me another M1A1 Abrams, wouldja?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/11/open-thread-116-4/#comment-691173
Freebird – maybe they will have the KU KS game on in the waiting room.
Rock Chalk Jayhawks!
Box I think there is a lot of truth in what you say. My husband and I have lived through several recessions in our married life. Funny I don’t remember the ones that happened before I was respoinsible for a family of my own.
One thing all of this recessions had in common was that they all ran their course and ended thankfully. This one is showing no signs of that happening. A jobless recovery is a nonsensical term. With one in ever six Americans either un or under employed something needs to happen and this administration doesn’t have a clue how to cure the problem. Their answer is to pass this omnibill that will pile even more tax on the back of individuals and small businesses.
Seniors are older and wiser. We have seen it all. We don’t fear normal economic cycles. We fear the intervention of those inept at making economic policy.
Yea I’m sure things will be just fine,I KNOW she is tired of the false calls her sense of humor is no where to be found. Will let everyone know when the big event happens. I figure sometime this evening,but what the he11 do I know
okobserver
Posted November 7, 2009 at 10:46 am | Permalink
Freebird I am celebrating the 15th birthday of my beautiful granddaughter today. Hope you have one just as talented and beautiful as she is. To a grandparent I have to say that each of my eight grandchildren are beautiful/handsome and much smarter than the average bear. Born in Hawaii – she was the reason I got to see the islands 15 years ago. Now living in Colorado – close enough to see regularly.
Congrats in advance – my prayers are with your daughter and the new baby.
Thanks for the good thoughts
Anti,
With all due respect I think I’ll keep your suggestion to PUSH to myself,no sense asking for a but whooping,last couple of times I’ve offered suggestions they were not well received.
Up to four million free enterprise jobs lost if healthcare bill passes as written. Just what we need now. Just got this from Cspan.
American_Way posted November 7, 2009 at 10:34 am
Sorry Cosmos, I asked you first.
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Poor old American_Way seems to believe that my personal financial situation represents the entire U.S. (and global) economy.
And poor American_Way, et al, have no proof to support their attacks on the economic stimulus package.
You cannot know the affect of “something” without knowing exactly what would have happened without that “something”.
“You cannot know the affect of “something” without knowing exactly what would have happened without that “something”.
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Cosmos this is much truer than you probably meant to post. Why then did ‘the one’ say that without it unemployment would top 10% and with it UE wouldn’t go over 8%. It seems the left has no problem with shading the truth.
One big lie that we also got with this stimulus bill was the one about ’saved’ jobs. How exactly would this have been calculated?
We of course know now it couldn’t be calculated which is why we are getting ‘revised’ numbers that are going down, down, down…
Thanks for that very truthful statement Cosmos. I knew someday we could agree on something.
Regular posted November 7, 2009 at 10:35 am
cosMAO writes: My fiercest opponents on global warming tend to be in their 60s and 70s. This offers a fascinating, if chilling, insight into human psychology
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Making assumptions without long term observation appears to be the norm for the Alarmist pseudo science of AGW.
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Who made “assumptions”?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/02/climate-change-denial-clive-james
“If Dickinson is correct, is it fanciful to suppose that those who are closer to the end of their lives might react more strongly against reminders of death? I haven’t been able to find any experiments testing this proposition, but it is surely worth investigating. And could it be that the rapid growth of climate change denial over the last two years is actually a response to the hardening of scientific evidence? If so, how the hell do we confront it?”
okobserver posted November 7, 2009 at 11:12 am
“You cannot know the affect of “something” without knowing exactly what would have happened without that “something”.
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Cosmos this is much truer than you probably meant to post.
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okobserver,
It does work both ways — the U.S. (and global) economy is not an exact, predictable issue.
But you also need to do what logically will best improve the situation.
okobserver posted November 7, 2009 at 11:12 am
Why then did ‘the one’ say that without it unemployment would top 10% and with it UE wouldn’t go over 8%
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That’s what his economic advisers told him.
okobserver, save some time/bandwidth, and read the thread.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/11/open-thread-117-4/#comment-691424
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Good Morning!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpgZx-9FLbE&feature=player_embedded#
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…HA…HA Ha ha h a
You Obaaamaa apologists are too funny, seriously, you guys crack me up. Everytime it causes me to think of the black knight in The Holy Grail.
Thanks for the laughs, it’s good for the soul y’know?
“But you also need to do what logically will best improve the situation.”
The nation is in recession among other things for spending more money than we as a nation have and individuals. Greed is the excessive or rapacious desire and pursuit of money, wealth, power.
Perhaps in this way it is logical to you to attempt to spend your way out of a recesssion into prosperity.
For me in my personal life, it simply does not work.
Pleefer seems to believe that facts and reality = apologising.
What? You can’t shift debt onto the next credit card and get rid of the debt? Consolidating debt leaves the debt?
Weird.
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Who’s facts and who’s reality Cosmo?
I for one could not care less that another conbot is about to get vomited into the world.
Blue Jasy,
Your concern is duly noted,mind over matter,remember that phrase. BTW got your kid drunk yet?
BlueJay
Posted November 7, 2009 at 12:13 pm | Permalink
I for one could not care less that another conbot is about to get vomited into the world.
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Didn’t mean to include in a group of people who care about others,my mistake won’t happen again.
After all I keep forgetting it is all about you
Personal finance is not a reasonable analogy to a great nation’s economic system.
Different system, different tools.
Freebird,
Best wishes on the grandbaby!
XXX,
Thanks, nice to know there are people out there that I don’t agree with all the time than can look past politics and see the person. Kind of in a holding pattern at the moment but as I said I figure it will be this evening got my camera ready to go.
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BlueJay
Posted November 7, 2009 at 12:13 pm | Permalink
I for one could not care less that another conbot is about to get vomited into the world.
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Man, that just says it all if you’re a real dyck.
Short of the Second Coming, there is no event more blessed than the arrival of a new-born child.
Fine DavidB, spend your way to prosperity in your household. Go max your credit cards and get some loans.
I’m sure in the end your revenue will exceed expenses (big eye roll).
“I for one could not care less that another conbot is about to get vomited into the world.”
Why on earth do people keep feeding this freak?
XXX,
Ya know some aren’t happy unless they can show their azz every chance they get.Abscense of those types is the reason there was an adult discussion on the open thread yesterday.
“great nation”
National Debt
11/05/2009 $11,990,561,444,829.48
boxlock20 posted November 7, 2009 at 10:42 am
With respect to cosmos’s above linked article on global warming (which doesn’t seem to be happening anymore), … “is it fanciful to suppose that those who are closer to the end of their lives might react more strongly against reminders of death?”
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boxlock20,
What ridiculous, non-scientific excuse(s) to deny AGW science will you use if the long-term warming trend resumes during the next few years? And resumes despite lower solar activity.
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boxlock20: “Or just maybe they have lived longer and have learned to recognize a ‘pig-in-a-poke’ hoodwink from experience.
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boxlock20 believes that science is learned from “experience”, and that AGW science is a “‘pig-in-a-poke’ hoodwink”.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/02/climate-change-denial-clive-james
“There are some obvious answers: they won’t be around to see the results; they were brought up in a period of technological optimism; they feel entitled, having worked all their lives, to fly or cruise to wherever they wish. But there might also be a less intuitive reason, which shines a light into a fascinating corner of human psychology.”
More at link.
DavidB posted November 7, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Personal finance is not a reasonable analogy to a great nation’s economic system.
Different system, different tools.
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Very true.
A there’s also the huge complicating factor of the global, non-U.S. economy.
“Short of the second coming …grunt snort etc”
The former aint gonna happen and the latter probably happens a million times a day all over the world.
cosmos,
It doesn’t take but a nickel from me and you dance like a clown. Fun!
“Man, that just says it all if you’re a real dyck.
Short of the Second Coming, there is no event more blessed than the arrival of a new-born child.”—XXX
Yep XXX, you nailed it.
Freebird1971, God Bless that miracle of new life you are to be Blessed with.
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BlueJay
Posted November 7, 2009 at 12:13 pm | Permalink
I for one could not care less that another conbot is about to get vomited into the world.
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What the he11 is wrong with you?
Boxlock,
Thank you. I am indeed blessed considering my past I have been given much more than I deserve. Not even the blog’s resident a hole can dampen the joy I’m going to experience
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XXX
Posted November 7, 2009 at 12:33 pm | Permalink
Short of the Second Coming, there is no event more blessed than the arrival of a new-born child.
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Agreed, there is no event more life affirming than a new arrival.
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BlueJay
Posted November 7, 2009 at 1:30 pm | Permalink
“Short of the second coming …grunt snort etc”
The former aint gonna happen and the latter probably happens a million times a day all over the world.
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Have you ever been present for a birth, Bluejay?
The paradox of birth is that the event is simultaneously commonplace and miraculous.
boxlock20,
It’s been fun proving that you’re a 100% clueless idiot re AGW science.
Have fun continuing to prove that you’re a idiot, when the long-term warming trend continues.
17 to 10 K-State with 3 minutes remaining. If the Wildcats can hold on there is going to be pandemonium in Aggieville tonight.
Yeah my son was born Ceasarean and his mom insisted on my being there. Other times it wasn’t convenient. It was…interesting from a physiological perspective I suppose. But not a big deal.
Maybe it is because I am not older that I don’t see this as some big deal everyone needs to know about. If MY kid gets some girl in trouble, I hope he has the sense not to get found out. I sure as heck don’t want to know.
It might also be that I helped deliver a baby when I was 11 and have helped deliver all kinds of puppies. It’s just biology.
If MY kid gets some girl in trouble, I hope he has the sense not to get found out. I sure as heck don’t want to know
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Parenting at it’s finest (sarcasm off)
“Freebird1971″ offers –
“Parenting at it’s finest (sarcasm off)”
People who live in glass houses an’ all that.
When was the first time your kids saw you sober?
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BlueJay
Posted November 7, 2009 at 2:22 pm | Permalink
If MY kid gets some girl in trouble, I hope he has the sense not to get found out. I sure as heck don’t want to know.
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Yeah, we sure wouldn’t want the boy to learn about responsibility.
I’m not sure having the father in the delivery room is always a good idea.
One friend was watching his daughter’s birth and said to his wife, “I don’t know why you’re screaming. You’re the one who’s got a pillow.”
Another guy was with his wife who was going through a long, long labor. Between contractions she said, “If my hips were two inches wider we wouldn’t still be here.” He responded, “If your hips were two inches wider you wouldn’t be here in the first place.”
In both cases, the wives were not amused.
boxlock20 posted November 7, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Freebird1971, God Bless that miracle of new life you are to be Blessed with.
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The bigger miracle is our incredible, irreplaceable planet Earth, that sustains us, and the other life here.
Unfortunately, too many people do not respect that miracle.
Mh,
not that is really any of your business but I was dry when my kids were growing up
So you advocate the position of not responsibility for your actions?
Freebird,
There is no point in trying to reason with Monkeyhawk.
Oh cosmos, bite it…you are an insufferable bore.
What a one dimensional dimwit.
It is like… well… trying to reason with a Monkey.
I take it back, you could probably reason more with a monkey.
Nevermind.
Oh cosmos….bite it!
You are an insufferable bore, a one dimensional dimwit.
Sorry for the double post….but the again it bore repeating.
Is there really any question anymore?
If you haven’t seen this yet it certainly is an eye opener.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28
His words and actions define what he is, and there is plenty of evidence to now know.
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Nathaniel
Posted November 7, 2009 at 3:55 pm | Permalink
Freebird,
There is no point in trying to reason with Monkeyhawk.
I disagree with that we have had discussions a times heated ones but even though no one’s mind was changed they were interesting. MH just like the rest of us is she holds her ideas strongly,nothing wrong with that in my book
“Thank you. I am indeed blessed considering my past I have been given much more than I deserve. Not even the blog’s resident a hole can dampen the joy I’m going to experience”—Freebird1971
Boy, me too! I am convinced one of the most important keys to finding personal happiness is finding and living in gratitude for the Blessing we have been given. That and not trying to place one’s self at the center of the universe.
Good luck with it all.
Boxlock20
Posted November 7, 2009 at 4:07 pm | Permalink
Is there really any question anymore?
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About what?
“The bigger miracle is our incredible, irreplaceable planet Earth, that sustains us, and the other life here.
Unfortunately, too many people do not respect that miracle.”
Well said cosmos.
Boclox still trying to sell the old Obama-is-a-Muslim-snake-oil with chopped up interviews. Priceless.
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Marathon debate on C-SPAN. Since the Republicans are convinced the country is ruined if the Affordable Health Care Bill is passed, maybe they will all resign and just give up and go home. I mean since its all over…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewafPV2brQA&feature=player_embedded
“Yeah, we sure wouldn’t want the boy to learn about responsibility.”
I’m a single parent who has always put him first. I think I’m fairly well acquainted with responsibility. My job is almost done. I’ll trust the parents of the girls he meets to teach their daughters to say no and let biology do what it does.
“MH just like the rest of us is she holds her ideas strongly,nothing wrong with that in my book”
MH is a “she”?
That explains why she spent twenty minutes watching a Marine get dressed, but doesn’t explain why she was in the mens dressing room.
“My job is almost done.”
Being a parent is for a life time. Half the joy of my children has been in their adulthood and our relationships now.
““Absolutely. Without question.”
That was how Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi responded during a press conference on Sept. 24 when asked if she would put the final version of the House health reform bill online for at least 72 hours before a vote so that Americans could read the 1,900-page legislation.
But now, in the waning hours before a scheduled vote on Saturday, Nov. 7, it appears that both a vote won’t happen on Saturday, and Mrs. Pelosi will not hold to her promise of full public disclosure of the bill.”
Pelosio = liar
Daniel,
Barack Hussein Obama is the one on those videos saying those things, that wasn’t manufactured. Excerpts had to be taken from the full lengths or it would have been unwatchable long in length.
I don’t know what he is, Muslim or not, but do know he sure isn’t presidential material, and sure sold a bunch of snake-oil to the Dim’ocrats.
“Being a parent is for a life time. Half the joy of my children has been in their adulthood and our relationships now.”–Am_Way
That is exactly my feeling too. I will always be a parent to my children and grandchildren, and want an active and giving part in their lives.
I am grateful for my parents and their love shown to me throughout my life, even as an adult, and want to pass that on and more.
American_Way
Posted November 7, 2009 at 5:12 pm | Permalink
“My job is almost done.”
Being a parent is for a life time. Half the joy of my children has been in their adulthood and our relationships now
What he means is he will leave it up to responsible people take on the resposibility he is abdicating with what seems to be pleasure,what a leech Sure hope his son’s apple falls a long way from the tree and becomes a productive member of society
“Being a parent is for a life time. Half the joy of my children has been in their adulthood and our relationships now.”–Am_Way
Exactly, one of the proudest days of my life was watching my son achieve his dream of becoming a professional firefighter,and seeing how my daughter is raising her son makes me proud to be her father.
“I don’t know what he is, Muslim or not.”
ahha.. so he may be a super secret Muslim who lets the cat out of the bag in multiple speeches and interviews…
ah ha! Very clever …
Amway thanks for correcting my mistake re MH,my bad. MH my apologies to you.
Darn it Freebird! I thought I had a plausible explanation for MH. Now I’m back to square zero.
“Exactly, one of the proudest days of my life was watching my son”
Yep. And attending college graduations was superb.
What I really like, is when one of them call me and say, “Hey Dad!” “I got this problem with the _ _ _ _, how do I fix it?”
_ _ _ _ represents anything, but usefully for me it’s a garbage disposal, leaking sink, electrical outlet, or garage door opener. And it is a real tickle when they complain about something we did too when we were young parents!
To Bluejay’s credit, I really didn’t realize these pleasures – until the kids actually left the nest.
He may realize the same, if he has developed a firm relationship of trust and mutual respect with his kid now. (and I really don’t want to talk about him all night).
Sorry,Amway but I try to work an honest program.
boxlock20 posted November 7, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Oh cosmos….bite it!
You are an insufferable bore, a one dimensional dimwit.
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boxlock20 doesn’t like to be reminded that s/he does not respect the irreplaceable planet that her/his children, grandkids, great-grandkids, etc will live on.
boxlock20 “blesses” those in the present time — but gives the ‘finger’ to Earth’s future generations.
OMG! Bush is a secret Mexican!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcHlXNFpr-s
MH is a “she”?
No, HE is not. I have met HIM.
OMG! Bush is a Chinese Communist in the land of Chairman Mao!
http://aftermathnews.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/jintao_putin_bush.jpg
“Being a parent is for a life time. ”
Screw that! I don’t to hear grandchild let alone raise one.
OMG! Laura Bush is a secret muslin!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2118/1744437066_7a9536cb1e.jpg
He may realize the same, if he has developed a firm relationship of trust and mutual respect with his kid now
BlueJay
Posted November 7, 2009 at 5:59 pm | Permalink
“Being a parent is for a life time. ”
Screw that! I don’t to hear grandchild let alone raise one
Somehow I don’t see that trust and mutual respect thing happening,sad he doesn’t know what he will be missing,but he probably doesnt care.
Ugh Michelle Bachman. Fighting for the freedom to continue to deny millions of Americans health care.
“the creator of this lei is also the creator of our freedoms.”
I presume she means God? God aint doing right by getting people health care.
So many millions of Americans will not see this debate.
Republican members of Congress are arguing against an American right to health care. How that party EVER gets more than 15% of the vote astounds me.
Now it’s old orange faced Boehner’s turn.
I paraphrase:
No health care for Americans unless you GUARANTEE our right to force women to birth children they do not want!
NY-23: Owens Breaks 4 Campaign Promises in first hour in Congress
WE ARE DEMOCRATS. THIS IS HOW WE ROLL!!
PHUQE THE VOTERS!!
“It’s simple to trick the CBO.” [AmWay]
Unless they are spitting out numbers that YOU like… Right??
“Wahh Wahh we can’t afford it! You ask to much of our rich people!”
Freebird, my best to you and your daughter, on the impending birth of your new grandchild… I have six…
Some on here are on the verge of a massive conniption fit,think I’ll watch havent seen one in quite a while
NY-23: Owens Breaks 4 Campaign Promises in first hour in Congress
wonder if anyone told him he has to stand for election again in just one year…..
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Chas
Posted November 7, 2009 at 6:29 pm | Permalink
Freebird, my best to you and your daughter, on the impending birth of your new grandchild… I have six…
Thanks Chas this will be number 2 and my first grandaughter just cjhecked with the ex they are checking her in as we speak so will be out of here shortly. Chas,even though we are miles apart politically please know the jabI send your way are not meant to be personal and if you have thought that then please accept my apology.
BlueJay,
Check out this ventriloquist act….this guy’s pretty good!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gl0tJbXq4A
Michelle Bachman is a secret Muslim.
Re: Employers taking out life insurance policies on some or all of their employees:
Some years ago, my husband’s company–in Wichita– called in nearly 100 employees and offered to buy life insurance policies on them with their permission The company honcho also offered information about how much the company would pay out after a certain number of years & when the employee retired, they would make monthly payments along with the employee’s pension payment. In the mean time, the company asked them to take deferred salary. The amount worked in favor of the employee, unless they died early with no beneficiaries. I likeed that plan better than just having the company enjoy all the future income.
Oh wow.
DO click Daniel’s link.
I THOUGHT I knew how shameless Republicans were.
I was wrong.
Maddy thinks Representative Shadegg is goofball and a clown.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gl0tJbXq4A
LOL! The Republican “substitute health care reform bill” continues to allow for “pre-existing condition” exclusions.
•DavidB
Posted November 7, 2009 at 7:55 pm | Permalink
LOL! The Republican “substitute health care reform bill” continues to allow for “pre-existing condition” exclusions.
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And Pelosicare says you must wait six months before you can apply for insurance.
Tough luck for those with terminal cancer.
“for those with terminal cancer”… and the Republican plan is…. go to emergency ward or is it get refused for insurance coverage even if can afford it? Have a bake sale?
“you must wait six months” unfortunate, if true, which I strongly doubt.
Aww I thought it was ObamaCare?
Nope: The Affordable Health Care for America Act!
Republicans are still using their messy, prop bill instead of the official version:
http://twitpic.com/one6b
Nope: The Affordable Health Care for America Act!
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PelosiCare because it’s in the house of Representatives, D.A.
Or should it be called Pelosi’s Death Panel?
Affordable?
hah! Yeah – it will drag the nation deeper into unrecoverable debt.
“I for one could not care less that another conbot is about to get vomited into the world.”-BleuCheez
Wow. Did you really write that? That’s pretty…wow…even for you bro.
And Shrinkydink,
Attacking someone’s addiction? Really?
Freebird, congratulations man.
Yes, R. Please call it Pelosi’s Death Panel.
Hey, if you don’t get insurance and get thrown into jail, you will have free healthcare!
“boxlock20 “blesses” those in the present time — but gives the ‘finger’ to Earth’s future generations.”—the one dimensional and boring cosmos
Nope….I give that just to you cosmos, just to you, can you see it.
Well Pleef I hadn’t said a thing up to now. Even though that poster has been giving us news that isn’t for about a month. His only other purpose here being to follow me around. What do we get an update with every diaper change? And it isn’t even his first grandchild. I just get a little tired of him including us in this not that big a deal event. He hasn’t said anything is awhile. Maybe the kid is born and he can shut up about it.
From Wonkette –
John Boehner just pronounced “hyperbole” as “hyperbowl,” and everyone laughed, the end.
John Boner…
BlueJay,
I just don’t see the point in the attack.
In a world going crazy…finding joy in whatever one can seems to be a fairly decent thing to do.
But then again, maybe finding a battle in everything is joy to some folks.
“I just get a little tired of him including us in this not that big a deal event.”—BlueJay
The birth of a grandchild is an enormous event…to anyone with a soul anyway.
You’re pathetic, really pathetically self-centered as well as a parasite.
God I feel sorry for your kid. If he can’t ‘fall far from the tree’ I pray he can roll a long way from it, and never look back.
“In a world going crazy…finding joy in whatever one can seems to be a fairly decent thing to do.”–Pheefer
We don’t agree often, but….Amen! Especially if it is in the love and care of family.
Passage of the House bill is moments away.
“The birth of a grandchild is an enormous event.”
It is? It just means your old.
Passed.
Passed.
Now if this was Hank’s grandchild, THAT would be news.
Kid has the TV.
DID it pass?
Confirmed!
The health care bill has passed!
Passed with one Republican vote and 219 Democratic votes
Now THIS is news! A bill to FINALLY make health care a right for all Americans has passed!
http://www.dailytech.com/Auto+Execs+Urge+Government+to+Tax+Fuel+up+to+8Gallon+to+Increase+Fuel+Efficiency/article16727.htm
It’s passed!!!!
Only the completely mentally lost thought that it wouldn’t.
NOW I am happy for you you old ankle biter Freebird! Your grandchild will be born into an America where no one is ever denied health care for lack of ability to afford it!
And congrats to Mrs. Pelosi, America’s first woman Speaker of the House, for wrangling that herd of cats.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SmgLtg1Izw
boxlock20 posted November 7, 2009 at 9:04 pm
“boxlock20 “blesses” those in the present time — but gives the ‘finger’ to Earth’s future generations.”—the one dimensional and boring cosmos
Nope….I give that just to you cosmos, just to you, can you see it.
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boxlock20,
Deny it all that you want, but you’re giving it (the ‘finger’) to your children, grandkids, great-grandkids, etc.
boxlock20 foolishly denies AGW science, and does not care about the problems AGW will cause her/his family in the future.
It’s a long way off, still has to get through the Senate.
And by the way junior, get your wallet out, you are going to have to pay now…or fines or jail.
Hope your happy with what’s coming down on ya. Ha!
Tomorrow is Veterans Sunday. If you are so inclined, attend Worship tomorrow… join with countless others in prayers remembering our countless military Veterans…
Also remember Veterans of ALL kinds of wars… personal… social… cultural… as well as military…
Freebird, blessings to your daughter and her imminent new arrival!!
Pleefer posted November 7, 2009 at 10:16 pm
http://www.dailytech.com/Auto+Execs+Urge+Government+to+Tax+Fuel+up+to+8Gallon+to+Increase+Fuel+Efficiency/article16727.htm
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High gas prices are insufficient to trigger the higher-mpg vehicles we need — Europe has had high gas prices for a long time.
We need feebates, “carrots” for auto-makers, loan guarantees for retooling, and other solutions.
Solutions and other ideas are described in this book,
http://www.oilendgame.com/ReadTheBook.html
Blue Jay,this post is not meant fdor you
Braelyn Joy arrived at 755 this evening.
BlueJay
Posted November 7, 2009 at 10:18 pm | Permalink
NOW I am happy for you you old ankle biter Freebird! Your grandchild will be born into an America where no one is ever denied health care for lack of ability to afford it!
Wouldnt have been an issue,we take care of family been doing it for generations
Congratulations Freebird,
What a neat name…she has!
“It has been said the greatest volume of sheer brainpower in one place occurred when Jefferson dined alone…” John Kennedy
When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe. Thomas Jefferson
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson
It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world. Thomas Jefferson
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. Thomas Jefferson
My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. Thomas Jefferson
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. Thomas Jefferson
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Thomas Jefferson
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Thomas Jefferson
Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:
‘I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered…’
Yeah, congrats there Freebird.
Boxlock
Ole Tom was a pretty smart individual even by today’s standards
“Freebird1971″ –
Congratulations to your family.
If she’s like most ladies I know, this is just the first of many times she’ll arrive somewhere late.
;-)
And ol’ “Boxlock20″ is WE Blog’s resident Jeffersonian scholar.
I’m glad your grandchild arrives in an era when we realize that we are a society and not a collection of at each other’s throats individuals “Freebird”.
“Wouldnt have been an issue,we take care of family been doing it for generations
MY family fights for not just ourselves but others. You will need to get your family used to that. Or at least accepting of it.
Health care will be a right now and not just for those who can pay rich people for it.
We are all very impressed Freebird.
Your daughter has accomplished what every species on this planet has done for millions of years.
Oh, lighten up, “BlueJay” –
Every grampa is entitled to feel good about a new baby in the family.
And every parent has moments when they think they’re perfect persons and invented parenthood.
Deal with it.
MH,
For someone who said he didn’t care ol BJ(who cant wait to foist the responsibiltiy for his kid on the rest of us) is sure yapping at my ankles.
MY family fights for not just ourselves but others.
BS
We need feebates, “carrots” for auto-makers, loan guarantees for retooling, and other solutions.
Yea all we need to do is go out back and take some more from the money tree
“Freebird1971″ –
I’m not sure “BlueJay’s” advocacy of what he considers a basic human right takes anything from you.
Jesus told us to consider the poor, to love our neighbors as ourselves, to do unto others as we would want others to do unto them.
Last night’s particular approach to health insurance reform isn’t perfect; not by a long shot. But it’s been systematically designed to make the money we spend on health care go mostly to, y’know, health care.
“BlueJay” antagonizes WE Blog CONs, I know.
I’ve noticed my antagonizing CONs result it most of ‘em running like whupped dogs with their tails between their legs. And name-calling. And failed attempts at personal attacks.
“BlueJay’s” kid is off-limits, I think. WE Blog CONs’ attacks on “BlueJay” aren’t all that different from me reminding Toad Tiahrt’s worshipers of the congressman’s stellar parenting skills. CONs have inundated WE Blog editors to remove such references. And I have agreed because they are, in fact, reprehensible.
Just like WE Blog CONs’ personal attacks against “BlueJay’s” kid.
I think it’s terrible Americans spend more than any society for health care and are 19th in in the world in the ranking of life expectancy. (Unless you eliminate car accidents and shootings; in which we rank Number 17!
We are a genetically free-market society. But there have come times in our history when the free market has failed. It happened in 1776. It happened in 1861. It happened in 1929.
And it’s happening now.
CONs have been reduced to name-calling; spewing out “SOCIALIST!!!” and “COMMUNIST!!!! and personal attack (“Chas the Spaz,” comes to mind.
We’ve discuss some important things, “Freebird1971.” Some important things — no politics or WE Blog garbage; issues.
I really don’t think you’re evil. But I know you have a record of hanging out with people who buy 18-Packs a day.
Think about the political equivalents who parrot the Tea Party line from every angle of attack they can come up with.
When “BlueJay’s” kid gets caught in the crossfire — and you defend them — and it’s just as despicable as my Scott Tiahrt comments and WE Blog CONs’ attacks against “BlueJay’s” kid.
I’ve quipped about your new granddaughter (“She’ll always be late.”) not as an attack, but just as a tangential comment about her holding off to be born full-Scorpio.
And, for the record, I am not in the least offended by your assuming I might be female. I can’t imagine what offense might be construed therein.
“I’ve noticed my antagonizing CONs result it most of ‘em running like whupped dogs with their tails between their legs. And name-calling. And failed attempts at personal attacks.”—Monkey
Ho ho ho, don’t delude yourself Monkey, nobody runs from you ever. You simply look like a fool to think so.
And no one attacks BlueJays kid either unless you think feeling sorry for the poor kid and wishing the best for him under his very sad circumstance of a father is an attack. Again yours is a foolish statement.
With regard to your comment of what Jesus says:
“Jesus told us to consider the poor, to love our neighbors as ourselves, to do unto others as we would want others to do unto them.”
This is what the Creator of the universe also says about that.
“One thing I love about the Bible is that it takes a hard stand on people who try to just “get by” and feed off others without doing a lick of work themselves. Here’s my favorite verse on this topic:
For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “If a man will not work, he shall not eat.” 2 Thessalonians 3:10
Yep, don’t work, don’t eat. I think that says it all.
Notice that it doesn’t say that those who CAN NOT work should not eat. No, we should have compassion on and help out those people. But if someone can work, yet WILL NOT work, then he’s left to the consequences of his actions (or inactions in this case).
Here are a couple other verses on this same line of thinking:
Lazy hands make a man poor, but diligent hands bring wealth. Proverbs 10:4
How long will you lie there, you sluggard? When will you get up from your sleep? A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest — and poverty will come on you like a bandit and scarcity like an armed man. Proverbs 6:9-11
So get outthere and work! Or find a way to survive without eating.”
Freebird1971 posted November 8, 2009 at 3:52 am
We need feebates, “carrots” for auto-makers, loan guarantees for retooling, and other solutions.
Yea all we need to do is go out back and take some more from the money tree
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Freebird1971,
Do you understand how feebates are funded?
Also, improving energy efficiency will cut fuel costs, which saves money.
And, for the record, I am not in the least offended by your assuming I might be female. I can’t imagine what offense might be construed therein
I think I’ figured out why keep thinking you are female. You are friend of Lois and in my mind it conjures up a room full of women,discussing and cussing we friends of Dr Bob. I try not to take personal offense but many times I fail,so I guess it is progress not perfection.
At long last, health care is recognized as a right. If there were a hereafter, Teddy Roosevelt would be smiling.
Freebird1971,
Feebates are tax-neutral. Fees on low-efficiency models fund rebates for high-efficiency ones.
AARP is a JOKE…they make millions off of seniors! They may have started off providing a service, but I can tell you with certainty that the insurance companies they “partner” with have made so much money off of unsuspecting Seniors that it should have been a crime.