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Lots of disagreement about attendence at the Tea Party on yesterday’s Open Thread. Estimating the size of a crowd is inexact science. And those darn people kept moving around so I had to start counting over several times.
Hard to count heads when they keep moving.
I heard there was at LEAST 352,921 teabaggers at that event yesterday.
President Obama should probably resign and flee the country!
The republican civil war continues…………
http://www.kansas.com/934/story/1041067.html?storylink=omni_popular
link to kansas.com video from yesterday’s teabag. Note the counterprotester who turns a plaid clad teabagger into a stuttering fool.
“It in’t me who hates corporayshuns that’s you.”
“Hard to count heads when they keep moving.”–XXX
Next time try counting their feet, then divide by two.
It’s mostly the Dim’ocrats/leftists that are wrapped up in paranoia over numbers like that. Or for that matter even have the time to go count. I know I was too busy with employment to go even though I would have liked.
Uh HUH. Last line in the video I posted. Guy shilling for donations. Sad that so many good but simple and deluded people help fund their own exploitation and oppression. But HEY they have the sure and certain knowledge that they have the gratitude of Rush Limbaugh and the Koch foundation and other such rich folk. Poor poor tools.
Boxlock20
Posted November 5, 2009 at 7:18 am | Permalink
“Hard to count heads when they keep moving.”–XXX
Next time try counting their feet, then divide by two.
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I’ll try that next time.
The police say there were 2,000 people there. That means my estimate (2,000-3,000) wasn’t bad.
It was like Tea-Bagger Woodstock yesterday, right?
I’m always too scrupulous and kind hearted for my own good. I SHOULD have been down at the teabag selling helmets guaranteed to protect from Gubbermint space based satellite mind control lasers.
Monkeyhawk
Posted November 5, 2009 at 7:33 am | Permalink
It was like Tea-Bagger Woodstock yesterday, right?
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Hardly. Not enough mud.
Also from the Kansas.com video. I didn’t see a person I think was under 50. I particularly like the three chubbos on folding chairs.
“Ya say ya want a revolution? But first, could ya hand me that jelly donut?”
Next time try counting their feet, then divide by two.
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I’ll try that next time.
XXX, I forgot to add….if it’s a liberal gathering you need to divide by the proper number of feet….four.
ONE YEAR AGO TODAY …..
By Neal Boortz @ November 5, 2009 8:45 AM
Americans woke up to discover …
Oh hell. Never mind. I don’t even want to get into it. I would have rather awakened to a homosexual rapist in my bedroom.
Democrats’ Plan to Help ‘Uninsurables’ Requires 6-Month Wait
Those with pre-existing conditions must wait
WASHINGTON – You’re afraid your cancer is back, and a health insurance company just turned you down.
read more
Gay Leaders Blame TV Ads, Obama for Loss in Maine
read more
“Democrats’ Plan to Help ‘Uninsurables’ Requires 6-Month Wait”
Is this the response to the Republican “Die Quickly” plan?
Dems you better watch out, some of you will lose your plush Congress jobs, and that makes me very happy. Go Plubs.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29167.html
“Also from the Kansas.com video. I didn’t see a person I think was under 50. I particularly like the three chubbos on folding chairs.”
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Ah, nothing like a little ageism. I guess we should just euthanize anyone over 50.
Democrats on these pages are a microcosm of Dems in general. They drive away Independents because Independents aren’t ideologically pure enough. They drive away old folks because they’re, well, OLD. Pretty soon, all that’s left is the extremists on the far left.
See how that works for you in 2010.
I think jay’s more valid point is that easily over half of the protestors were of the age they could get Medicare – the grand daddy of all socialized medicine – yet, they hold signs being against socialized medicine. Someone should have had a sign saying: “Socialized Medicine is FINE for ME, BUT NOT for THEE!” – But, that would have been too honest for pathetic jokers.
BlueJay
Posted November 5, 2009 at 7:46 am | Permalink
Also from the Kansas.com video. I didn’t see a person I think was under 50.
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That’s the age group most likely to vote.
Sux to be a lib right now.
Was that someone we should recognized arguing in the Kansas.com video?
I was referring to the dude using the 4 syllable word, “validity”; he should have known when you get past two syllables, cons can’t understand you.
On this date, Nov 5th
Notable Quotes
A baby is an inestimable blessing and bother.
- Letter to Annie Webster, 1876, Mark Twain
Odd Facts
The Nobel Peace Prize medal depicts three naked men with their hands on each other’s shoulders!
A car uses 1.6 ounces of gas idling for one minute. Half an ounce is used to start the average automobile!
It’s illegal to drink beer out of a bucket while you’re sitting on a curb in St. Louis!
Pinocchio is Italian for “pine eye”!
Humorous Bits
To avoid criticism, do nothing, say nothing, be nothing.
To err is human. To blame it on someone else is politics.
When there are sufficient funds in the checking account, checks take two weeks to clear. When there are insufficient funds, checks clear overnight.
“should recognized” = should have recognized
I particularly like the three chubbos on folding chairs.
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You should have seen the counter protesters. There was more azz on the 4 than 20 combined. If you figure per capita, the libs were more by far.
StevenEDavis
Posted November 5, 2009 at 8:27 am | Permalink
Was that someone we should recognized arguing in the Kansas.com video?
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I couldn’t tell, his skirt kept flying up over his face.
“I couldn’t tell, his skirt kept flying up over his face.”
Why that was even “cuter” than usual from the resident troll…
StevenEDavis
Posted November 5, 2009 at 8:26 am | Permalink
I think jay’s more valid point is that easily over half of the protestors were of the age they could get Medicare – the grand daddy of all socialized medicine – yet, they hold signs being against socialized medicine. Someone should have had a sign saying: “Socialized Medicine is FINE for ME, BUT NOT for THEE!” – But, that would have been too honest for pathetic jokers.
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Steven, shouldn’t you be over with your eletist friends? That way if someone doesn’t agree with you, you can just pull their post.
First Amendment, anyone?
What a genius observation that most at the rally were older folks. Who most likely doesn’t have work to do on a Wednesday PM?
Want better evidence of coming change in the air?
“Election Day losses in Virginia and New Jersey have congressional Democrats focused like never before on jobs — their own.
While the White House and party leaders are urging calm, Democratic incumbents from red states and Republican-leaning districts are anything but; Tuesday’s statehouse defeats have left them acutely aware that their votes on health care reform and other major Obama initiatives could be career-enders in 2010 or beyond.
“I should be nervous,” said Rep. Parker Griffith, a freshman Democrat from Huntsville, Ala.
Griffith said the Democratic rank and file is “very, very sensitive” to the fact that issues being pushed by party leaders “have the potential to cost some of our front-line members their seats.”
House Democrats, forced to take a tough vote on a controversial cap-and-trade climate change bill in June, may have to vote as earlier as this weekend on the even more controversial health care bill. Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her leadership team have struggled to get moderates on board for that vote, and Tuesday’s results won’t make the task any easier.
“People who had weak knees before are going to have weaker knees now,” said Rep. Bill Pascrell (D-N.J.), a relatively liberal congressman who seemed safe in 2010 but now thinks a Republican challenger might feel emboldened by Tuesday’s election results”…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20091105/pl_politico/29167
I’m always amused when a liberal throws up Medicare as a sucessful liberal program that is such a blessing to the poor old people in America.
It is a cruel joke. It’s a monument to the government’s inability to manage anything with healthcare.
It’s bankrupt. Pelosi’s plan attempts to ’save’ 500 billion dollars by eliminating Medicare fraud and it’ will only take a trillion dollars of government programs to do it!
I didn’t say anything against older people there X.
I merely noted that the tea parties seem to be composed mainly of them. And while age brings wisdom, it also can bring inflexibility. Yes these folks have done much. But much has also been done for them. I think probably 90% of the people at those events aren’t so much evil as they are made to be scared by evil people.
The American Cancer Society Action Network is SUPPORTING the House health care reform bill. They are criticizing it from a position of making it better.
House Health Care Reform Legislation Would Dramatically Improve the Health Care System for People With Cancer
http://www.acscan.org/mediacenter/view/id/222
As it is now, the uninsured without insurance are … well .. you know…
beggars with a poor prognosis.
The more that I read what you so-called “progressives” and “free-thinkers” have to say about someone elses free speech, the more I realize you all are indeed full of schitt. You’d be the first to rat out the Jew in the basement or inside the wall in 1935 Berlin or Prague. But you’d do it with love and understanding.
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2009/jul/18/richard-v-neill-if-medicares-such-a-great-deal/
Interesting analysis of Medicare costs. It’s a great liberal myth that old people ‘love’ their Medicare.
HLP has there EVER been a time in your life when you were not at the trough of the very Government you attack?
Just found out that a close friend of mines’ brother got the H1N1 shot yesterday. He had 4 heart attacks, a 106 temp, brain hemhorraging and now this morning, he’s brain dead with my friend left to decide to pull the plug.
Gotta love it.
Go get your pigsfly shot.
Yep, I ain’t now or never been ‘at the trough’!
nitwit
Pleefer
You have some actual “proof” that the H1N1 vaccine caused the 4 heart attacks and subsequent death or are you spewing crap based on anti-government propoganda you heard on Faux “news”?
Shall I try to find where you have BRAGGED otherwise Hank?
Nah,I think we remember.
BJ, Why did’nt you show up like you said you would coward? You make all these claims from a video when you could have seen it first hand.
City code requires them to have parking spaces for most of the 6400 capicity of Lawrence-Dumont.
I counted the cars just in the parking lot at over 900. There were many more on the side streets. There were more cars than what you estimate from your bogus claims. I only saw 4-5 counter prosters at most. They did parade around in front of the main crowd for the cameras to make their number appear larger.
More goofines from the party of YES WE CAN
“Rep. Paul Kanjorski (D-Penn.), a senior member of the Financial Services Committee, has proposed the most explosive provision so far in the debate over financial reform, seeking to empower federal regulators to preemptively break up financial firms deemed “too big to fail.”
The powers Kanjorski is proposing are sweeping – he wants to hand the federal government a measuring stick to figure out which companies are a threat to the larger financial system, then give the feds the authority to break them up regardless of their financial health. ”
Where does the Constitution give them some powers? Not that they care. After all, when Pelosi was asked the question about healthcare, all she could do was answer “Are you serious? Are you serious?”
her aide clarified the answer by saying “mandated that individual Americans buy health insurance as not a “serious question.”
“You can put this on the record,” said Elshami. “That is not a serious question. That is not a serious question.””
The Constitution means nothing to these people. They are after the government involved in (and running) everything. IN his words “Now that we are trying on every front to increase the government”
I know BLueJay will love it, but the rest of you need to take note. And do something about it
“City code requires them to have parking spaces for most of the 6400 capicity of Lawrence-Dumont.”
Are you attempting to argue that there were was anywhere NEAR that many people there? Go ahead on. I don’t make the bad news. I just report it.
HLP says “medicare is a cruel joke.”
Translation, medicare doesn’t pay for “chiro-quackery,” hence I don’t personally profit from it.
LJ in typical “useful idiot” style argues against the billionaires getting richer at everyone’s expense.
Good plan, nitwit.
“You make all these claims…”
That’s right I did Donndublin. I said that based on YOUR reports about the parking that there were probably less than 2,000 people there. So far, there have been no reports outside of yours to make me wrong. Go look for one.
CapnAMerica-
If all you can do is call names, you are sorely lacking in your education. Go back to school.
Please describe where the Constitution gives the power to make people buy healthcare insurance, or break up a company that is just too big to satisfy some buearucrat.
Pleefer–
Your rant about liberals ratting out Jews was even more irrational than usual this morning.
Think of the pills the psychiatrist gives you as your “friends.” Have you taken your friends this morning, Pleef?
I see the Capn is once again yodeling through his an@l orifice making false claims.
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“I counted the cars just in the parking lot at over 900.”
You counted cars. Yeah we believe that.
Blaidd_Drwg69,
Well, you cawksuquer, I don’t watch foxnews. And he was just fuqin’ fine before the shot, now he’s not. You are that fuqin’ stupid.
The more that I read what you so-called “progressives” and “free-thinkers” have to say about someone elses free speech, the more I realize you all are indeed full of schitt.
Truer words were never spoken. The left has tolerance for anything and everything, except what matters: a dissenting point of view. THAT they will do their dead level best to suppress.
(Or – go to a “pure” blog where one doesn’t have to actually read those ol’ scary differences of opinion!)
CapnAmerica
Posted November 5, 2009 at 9:02 am | Permalink
Pleefer–
Your rant about liberals ratting out Jews was even more irrational than usual this morning.
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Duh Libs Piggy Bank and idol, George Soros ratted out Jews.
Where does the Constitution give corporation the right to create entities so large and powerful that they can bring the largest economy in the world to a grinding halt?
If something is truly unconstitutional, file. Be the hero.
Or study Constitutional law.
Oh, we’re gonna play “where does The Constitution say” now eh, LJ?
Okay, where does The Constitution say we should have a standing army? It says gov’t should provide for “the common defense” but that does not mean we need a standing army.
In fact, the US refused to allow a standing army until the mid 1800’s.
Now we spend more on it than all the governments of all the world spend on their militaries combined.
DavidB
Posted November 5, 2009 at 9:05 am | Permalink
Where does the Constitution give corporation the right to create entities so large and powerful that they can bring the largest economy in the world to a grinding halt?
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Where does the constitution say that they can’t?
The tea party was ON the parking lot. And don counted 900 cars in that same parking lot!
You’re a hoot short stuff!
Captain Fuqwit,
You like free speech when it is something you want to bitsch about, everyone else, it seems, ain’t afforded the luxury.
You’re berating and hating on homosexuals, calling everyone “teabagger’s” is now a hate crime and I’m almost ready to press charges against you all.
And you would be the first to rat on ‘em. Because it would save your gutless pussified necks.
And my medicine is making fun of and pointing at hypocrites like yourselves. Works to ease my worried mind, everytime.
Regular– correct. So did the Pope “Nazi Youth” Benedict, and so would you had you been there.
In fact, I’d go so far to say that no one would have been a more patriotic Nazi in pre-war Germany, no one would persecuted minorities with more zeal than Regular.
Man, this website really needs an “ignore” button.
Pleefer, go with God, my friend.
(Shakes head and slowly backs away from the keyboard . . . )
Posted November 5, 2009 at 9:09 am | Permalink
Regular– correct. So did the Pope “Nazi Youth” Benedict, and so would you had you been there.
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Yeah,
Say – aren’t you Anglican?
They are like first cousins to the Catholics.
DavidB–
You’re exactly right.
Corporations are legal fictions created by government.
The government giveth and the government taketh away.
FDR warned that when private corporations become more powerful that government, we will have fascism, not democracy.
“Now we spend more on it than all the governments of all the world spend on their militaries combined.”
waaaa waaaa I want my mommy.
Please describe to me the Constitutional authority to force people to be screened for HIV? Please describe for me the COnstitutional authority for the government to purchase a new car in the year 2010. Please describe for me the Constitutional authority for the government to “tell” on people those who advocate overthrow of the US Goverment.
Anglican-Episcopalians consider themselves to be orthodox catholics.
The Roman Catholics however don’t.
“Duh Libs Piggy Bank and idol, George Soros ratted out Jews.”-Regular
I think that he was just another gutless, limosine liberal who watched it all happen, posing as something he wasn’t, not standing up for anything but his own skin.
Typical.
Couldn;t answer the first question, eh Captian? So you resort to your usual deflect or distort methodology. Thanks for playing
This time we have climate change crap from a Senate committee of course Kerry is on it. We must stop this we cannot afford it and the control of our lives it would bring by the Bureaucrats. Leave us along. You can’t change nature.
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE5A42WB20091105
As far as our alligience to the Bishop of Rome (Pope), see Henry 8 of England in about 1520 . . .
Pleefer
Posted November 5, 2009 at 9:04 am | Permalink
Blaidd_Drwg69,
Well, you cawksuquer, I don’t watch foxnews. And he was just fuqin’ fine before the shot, now he’s not. You are that fuqin’ stupid.
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Typical profanity out of the mouth of a con. Oh, I am proud of the fact that you don’t watch Faux Noise.
The fact remains, just because your aquaintance took an H1N1 one day and is for all intents and purposes dead the next day does not make it a proven cause/effect event.
If you choose to not take the vaccine, that is your choice. It is irresponsible of you to spread unfounded allegations about the vaccine that may discourage others from being vaccinated.
I seriously hope you’re not discouraging any parents from having their children vaccinated especially when they are of the group most likely to be affected by the H1N1 flu.
The Capn’s philosphy in a nutshell
“The government giveth and the government taketh away.”
Praise be the goverment.
So says the leftist of the left.
Thanks so much for making yourself plain.
“DavidB
Posted November 5, 2009 at 9:05 am | Permalink
Where does the Constitution give corporation the right to create entities so large and powerful that they can bring the largest economy in the world to a grinding halt?”
Try reading it sometime. It might actually help you understand the United States of America. The Constitution is about the limited role of the Fedeal government.
Okay, let’s play “where does The Constitution say,” LJ.
The Constitution says that the government should “provide for the General Welfare.” When corporate power becomes so great that it poses a threat to the general welfare, it has an obligation to regulate the thing that it created (corporations).
Search engine math is your friend.
Thursday, October 15, 2009
City of Wichita officials have identified parking spaces to accommodate an anticipated 3,500 visitors to Century II Convention Center on Wednesday for a national convention, trade show and the opening night of “WICKED,” the much-anticipated Broadway musical. Those plans include:
· 139 parking spaces in the main Century II parking lot, which will be set aside for “WICKED” ticketholders and closed off by barricades. This parking is on a first-come, first-served basis. In order to park in these rows, drivers must show their “WICKED” tickets to security.
· 500 parking spots in the garage east of the Broadview Hotel on Waco.
· 560 parking spots after 5 p.m. in the Garvey Center garage. To enter the garage, drivers may go down First Street and turn south on Willis Drive. Willis Drive is located a half-block east of Waco.
· 500 parking spots in the Waterwalk parking garage between Wichita Street and Water (just east of Gander Mountain).
· 350 parking spots in the parking garage to the east of the Waterwalk near the Go Wichita Convention and Visitors Bureau.
· 827 parking spots in Lawrence-Dumont Stadium. The Q Line trolley will run until 11 p.m. to shuttle people to and from Lawrence-Dumont Stadium and Century II.
· Visitors may also pay to park in the Hyatt Regency Wichita parking garage (500 spaces) that is adjacent to the main Century II surface parking lot. Individuals who park in the garage will be charged $8 by the Hyatt.
“The influx of people is another sign of the vibrancy of downtown Wichita,” said John DAngelo, manager of the City’s Division of Arts and Cultural Services. “This parking plan is designed to ensure that visitors arrive in a timely manner to their destinations by having access to a variety of parking options around Century II.”
City officials estimate that 7,000 cars will be in the Century II vicinity on Wednesday, with the most traffic after 6 p.m. for “WICKED,” which is expected to attract a sold-out crowd of 2,200 people to Concert Hall, located on the southeast side of Century II, adjacent to Expo Hall.
Visitors to Century II should note that the surface parking lot located south of Waterman Street (across from the Hyatt’s parking garage) has been reserved by the Wichita Industrial Trade Show (WITS) and won’t be accessible to the general public. It’s expected that Century II’s main parking lot east of Expo Hall will be heavily used throughout the day by attendees to the Society for the Advancement of Material and Process Engineering (SAMPE) convention.
Sorry about all that. But I needed context.
“· 827 parking spots in Lawrence-Dumont Stadium. ”
Hey donndublin? Forget for a minute that part of the parking lot was hosting a rather small public gathering and some bussed in protesters.
How did you count over 900 cars on a lot that only holds 827?
Never ceases to amaze me that when ever the right does something the leftists dismiss it as no big deal and then spend the rest of the day explaining themselves. If it ain’t a big deal why even comment on it?
Corporations are covered under the 14th amendment as a ‘personhood’.
Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Oh, the General Welfare clause. Well, since you are going to argue that false argument, there is no sense in continuing. I guess you can justify anything you want under that, can;t you . The framers would disagree…but then, who cares
BlueJay
Posted November 5, 2009 at 9:08 am | Permalink
The tea party was ON the parking lot. And don counted 900 cars in that same parking lot!
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Well there shrimp, you were not there so your’re taking out your azz again. Only a third of the parking lot was blocked off and that was half filled with people.
Go to google earth zoom in and count the parking spaces.If you can count the high. The GIS site at Wichita.gov has a better areial view. Don’t forget the parking to the south and north including the church parking lot and adjacent businesses. There also dozens of cars in at the ice rink as well.
I ain’t a “con” or a “lib”. I think both of your groups’ ideals are exactly what is wrong with this country, you try and force EVERYONE to your twisted logic and neither side will ever figure out that in a free society…you cannot do it.
And yeah, I get a foul-mouth when someone is attacking my sense of reason. You’re pizzing on my leg and telling me that it’s raining. The dude is fine just prior to the shot then afterwards he’s not. Pretty fuquing cut and dry (to a simpleton like me).
And yeah, I’m spreading the word about NOT getting the “vaccine” as far and as wide as I can.
No one is stopping anyone from getting the vaccine, get one, tell everyone you know to get one. But I’m here to say the opposite and I think it’s just as irresponsible for you to tell people to get one.
I’ve got so much news here that supports my side of the argument, you’ve got the government’s and the vaccine maker’s word. I’ll throw all kinds of news links your way, but you wouldn’t care in any case.
Free speech…it’s a bitsch.
There were also dozens of cars at the ice rink.
Don sez…
“I counted the cars just in the parking lot at over 900.”
AND adds…
“a third of the parking lot was blocked off”
You’re goin’ I say you’re goin the wrong way boy! Ya can’t put over 900 cars in two thirds of 827 spaces.
Don done taught us car countin’. Now he’s gonna school us in fractions!
BJ has his panties in a bunch again
GMC70
Posted November 5, 2009 at 9:04 am | Permalink
The more that I read what you so-called “progressives” and “free-thinkers” have to say about someone elses free speech, the more I realize you all are indeed full of schitt.
Truer words were never spoken. The left has tolerance for anything and everything, except what matters: a dissenting point of view. THAT they will do their dead level best to suppress.
(Or – go to a “pure” blog where one doesn’t have to actually read those ol’ scary differences of opinion!)
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GMC70 nails it.
Hey donndublin? Forget for a minute that part of the parking lot was hosting a rather small public gathering and some bussed in protesters.
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The only “small public gathering” I saw were the counter protesters which for some odd reason din’t include you. What were you afraid of coward? You said the other day you were going.
You talk big on the blog but in person, not so much little boy.
“There were also dozens of cars at the ice rink.”
MY dozen = 12. What’s a dozen in your math don?
Say Donn,
I found this video of BlueJay wanting to go to the Teaparty.
Unfortunately, he was leashed to the Capn’s leg and couldn’t get free. That’s the Capn speaking in the background.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNbFJ1fStAM&feature=related
BJ cant riducle dissent into being silent,must really pizz him off. In fact he isn’t good at ridiculing dissent at all,he in his own way actually promotes it
BJ
Give it a rest dude. Get a life.
The cops estimated 2000. Several other organizations estimated 1500-2000. Deal with it.
Heh the folks at the arena should give donndublin a call about their parking problem.
That boy’s about as sharp as a bag of wet mice.
I must apologise for my language however, not because I’m not insulted by you captain and blaidd_guy, but because it’s beneath me to act that way and to allow you to get them riled up that much.
I don’t know if my friend did or did not have some unknown health issue that complicated his vaccination, but then, neither does the rest of the world.
But regardless, that old hag of an ex governess of ours, has let big pharma off the hook, so it wouldn’t matter if it was the fault of the vaccine or not.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31971355/ns/health-swine_flu/
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/375dde06-7559-11de-9ed5-00144feabdc0.html?nclick_check=1
http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/31/news/newsmakers/fortune_rumsfeld/
Okay Pleefer, put up or shut up.
Post your link(s) to the scientific studies that show the H1N1 vaccine is unsafe.
You have the right to free speech; everyone does. Of course there are limitations to that free speech: libel/slander, sedition, yelling fire in a crowded movie theater or church, etc.
“get them riled up”…
I just stepped in that one.
I meant, believe it or not, “get ME riled up”…
Well, ok…
This is the my first stop:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/7395411/deadly_immunity/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1202389/Government-virus-expert-paid-116k-swine-flu-vaccine-manufacturers.html
Heckler
Posted November 5, 2009 at 9:51 am | Permalink
BJ
Give it a rest dude. Get a life.
The cops estimated 2000. Several other organizations estimated 1500-2000. Deal with it.
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Heck, you’re wasting your time. I was there. I saw a LOT of people, especially when you consider the Tea Party was mid-week, mid day. I didn’t see anyone “bussed” in. There were busses tho.
I watched Ed Shultz belittle the Tea Party movement yesterday. He was full of schitt. Anybody who tries to marginalize this movement does so at their own risk.
That said, the Tea Party movement is more a threat to Republicans that to Democrats. If they go third party, they’ll take votes away from Republicans.
Since you were NOT there BJ, you didn’t see all the cars in the church parking lot and behind the businesses along Douglas that are adjcent to the stadium.
I don’t recall seeing a bus either. You must be talking about the RV’s the Tea Party tour group used. The only bus there was a short bus the counter protesters rode on. Did you miss your (short)buss BJ?
This goes off on a tangent on why Big Pharma isn’t a friend:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/05/22/health/main555154.shtml
http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/world-news/2009/08/07/swine-flu-health-expert-warning/does-virus-vaccine-increase-risk-of-cancer.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/swine-flu/6038460/Doctors-told-to-watch-for-Guillain-Barre-syndrome-during-Swine-flu-vaccination-programme.html
Pleefer still provides no links to scientific studies that show the H1N1 vaccine to be un-safe.
I know we are all waiting with great anticipation for BJ’s no BS attendance figures from the rally in DC
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/swine-flu/6467984/People-will-die-after-swine-flu-vaccine—but-its-just-coincidence.html
Who is Ed Shultz?
There hasn’t been time to study any effects H1N1 vaccine from either side. Only “just-in-case-CYA-scenarios”.
Nah don’s report will be more…interesting there ‘Freebird”. He’ll have us some big ol’ red elephants up the Capitol steps!
XXX
I was there as well. I had an eye out for you. I figured you were sounding like you were ready for a tea party.
All of the criticism of the Tea Party is fear driven. Fear of it’s growth and staying power. I sensed just as much energy yesterday as I did at the Tax Day Tea Party in April. It’s not going away.
And I agree, there’s plenty of Repubs in this country that need to fear it.
Pleefer posts links to “opinions”, not scientific studies.
donndublin
Posted November 5, 2009 at 10:04 am | Permalink
Since you were NOT there BJ, you didn’t see all the cars in the church parking lot and behind the businesses along Douglas that are adjcent to the stadium.
I don’t recall seeing a bus either. You must be talking about the RV’s the Tea Party tour group used.
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Yes, I’m talking about the Tea Party RVs. I’m an RV owner myself. When they get that big, they’re busses, LOL!
Regular
Posted November 5, 2009 at 10:13 am | Permalink
Who is Ed Shultz?
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5:00
MSNBC
All of the criticism of the Tea Party is fear driven. Fear of it’s growth and staying power. I sensed just as much energy yesterday as I did at the Tax Day Tea Party in April. It’s not going away.
That’s why the lefties keep trying to dismiss it.They are afraid of dissnet
On second thought, BJ probably did show up. When he saw the crowd and the few counter protesters he ran with his tail between his legs.
5:00
MSNBC
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Ah, thanks…
Seen him, but don’t like his argumentative style. He has a perpetual burr under his saddle.
Yeah BJ ran thru the briars and he ran thru the brambles and he ran thru the bushes where a rabbit wouldn’t go. He ran so fast the the hounds couldn’t catch ‘em on down the Arkansas to the Gulf of Mexico. – Johnny Horton
http://www.kansas.com/934/story/1041067.html?storylink=omni_popular
Try not to miss the bus in the headline on your way to see the bus in the video there don. I wish I HAD a bigger shovel for ya. I’ll look into renting a backhoe while I’m out!
•Regular
Posted November 5, 2009 at 10:22 am | Permalink
5:00
MSNBC
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Ah, thanks…
Seen him, but don’t like his argumentative style. He has a perpetual burr under his saddle.
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Kind of like all the people at FAUX noise?
Kind of like all the people at FAUX noise?
Well – a couple – but I don’t watch Hannity or Beck.
I like the panel news discussions like Breet Baier’s. Watch O’Reilly occasionally, but he’s kind of like an informercial trying to sell something, usually his own books and junk.
er…Brett Baier
Poor BJ,caught backing out again
BlueJay
Posted November 5, 2009 at 10:25 am | Permalink
http://www.kansas.com/934/story/1041067.html?storylink=omni_popular
Try not to miss the bus in the headline on your way to see the bus in the video there don. I wish I HAD a bigger shovel for ya. I’ll look into renting a backhoe while I’m out!
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You mean that one RV buss that the half dozen or so tour group is currently living and traveling in?
Ask XXX he was there too. He stayed around to know about thy buss situation.
Heckler
Posted November 5, 2009 at 10:14 am | Permalink
XXX
I was there as well. I had an eye out for you. I figured you were sounding like you were ready for a tea party.
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We’ll have to get together for the next one.
boxlock20 posted November 5, 2009 at 7:18 am
It’s mostly the Dim’ocrats/leftists that are wrapped up in paranoia over numbers like that. Or for that matter even have the time to go count.
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donndublin
Posted November 5, 2009 at 8:54 am
I counted the cars just in the parking lot at over 900. There were many more on the side streets.
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donndublin
Posted November 5, 2009 at 9:31 am
Go to google earth zoom in and count the parking spaces.
‘Global warming: the pyschology of denial‘
http://www.examiner.com/x-5266-Seattle-Environmental-Policy-Examiner~y2009m11d4-Global-warming-the-pyschology-of-denial
‘US Senate panel approves Democratic climate bill‘
http://www.reuters.com/article/ELECTU/idUSN0511502820091105
donndublin
Posted November 5, 2009 at 10:36 am | Permalink
You mean that one RV buss that the half dozen or so tour group is currently living and traveling in?
Ask XXX he was there too. He stayed around to know about thy buss situation.
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There wasn’t anybody but the tour group bussed in. It didn’t happen.
cosmao, As an engineer I have done a lot of consulting work for businesses like Towne East and West to help them comply with city codes including parking. It only takes a few minutes to count if you know how.
Is that way over your head MO?
The Sky is falling ! The Sky is falling!-cosmos
Alright, I concede, my links to opinions are different from your opinions blaidd_guy.
You have NOTHING but the people who make the vaccines and those that are invested in them telling you how safe they are.
Google Earth shot of Lawrence-Dumont area.
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9425/lawdumont.jpg
Is this way over your head, donndublin?
boxlock20 posted November 5, 2009 at 7:18 am
It’s mostly the Dim’ocrats/leftists that are wrapped up in paranoia over numbers like that. Or for that matter even have the time to go count.
cosMao, Have you ever heard of multiplication? You don’t have to count every single space. Count a row and then count the number or rows. You can also count by 2’s, 5’s or 10’s too.
Now you know twice as much about math than you did before.
The coinkidinks are just legion:
http://www.verichipcorp.com/092109.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssTechMediaTelecomNews/idUSBNG49295720090921
But again, I admit that neither one of us can verify either one of our opinions as fact.
This post is way over donndublin’s head.
boxlock20 posted November 5, 2009 at 7:18 am
It’s mostly the Dim’ocrats/leftists that are wrapped up in paranoia over numbers like that. Or for that matter even have the time to go count.
Reg, Check out this site. It’s taken from a low level airpale. It has much more detail and you can zoom in closer. I use it all the time in my work.
http://gis.wichita.gov/outsidegeneral/
Freebird1971 posted November 5, 2009 at 10:44 am
The Sky is falling ! The Sky is falling!-cosmos
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That’s correct, Freebird1971. The stratosphere is cooling, and “falling”, due to AGW.
airpale = airplane
teaparty=who cares, America, Love it or Leave it!
donndublin
Posted November 5, 2009 at 10:59 am | Permalink
Reg, Check out this site. It’s taken from a low level airpale. It has much more detail and you can zoom in closer. I use it all the time in my work.
http://gis.wichita.gov/outsidegeneral/
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Cool!
thanks bud
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/28/health/policy/28vaccine.html?_r=2
This is for Capnamerica…
‘Oh, we’re gonna play “where does The Constitution say” now eh, LJ?
Okay, where does The Constitution say we should have a standing army? It says gov’t should provide for “the common defense” but that does not mean we need a standing army.”
You so right in how the Constitution is worded..at least in that portion of Article 1. Section 8.
HOWEVER if you would like to continue to read in the same section. it is stated…
“To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water; To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years; To provide and maintain a Navy; To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces; To provide for calling forth the Militia”.
ALSO, further study of the Constitution would show that Article 2, Section reads..
“The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States”.
Further more Article 4, Section 4 states that…
“The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion”.
Now since it is common knowledge that the Founding fathers were men who used “common sense” in determining the direction they “intended” their fledging nation to Take ,which by the way is the standard (ie; how to did the orginators of this nation actually want to have this goverment to work, then and NOW) that is”supposed” to be used in determining the constutionality of modern laws.
So after reading your constitution, and seeing these words,,how can a president be “commander in chief’ if there is not a standing military? And I dont know about you, but if the constitution specifically call out to Maintain a “NAVY”.. Wait just a darn minute here..ISNT THE NAVY A MILITARY BRANCH?
I wonder how much MONEY was collected from the assembled dupes, sociopaths and dittoheads?
Let’s be generous and allow a crowd of 1,500. If even 10 percent of the howling mob gives five bucks to the cause, that’s 150 times 5 or $750. Not a bad haul for taking an hour or so off the Interstate between MORE such stops. Then there’s the money the tour folks are getting from the big con foundations dedicated to getting the rich richer.
Beats getting a job!
And its far from new. In his book “The Wrecking Crew How Conservatives Rule” Thomas Frank details WELL how con activism for profit has gotten people rich while not really doing that much for whatever “cause” they are shilling for. Rush Limbaugh makes more in an hour than most of his listeners will in a LIFETIME but the dupes will bob their heads and fight to the death to protect him while he tells THEM to work harder!
I’m glad I don’t understand it.
New heights of lows…
http://www.dontkillgrandma.com/
Why don’t all Democrat Congressmen Sign-up for The Public Health Option Plan?
Joe Wilson Proposes Forcing Congress Onto Government Health Insurance Plan
“They know the government-run option will not be in the interest of the American people, either individually or for the American citizens at large,” Wilson said Wednesday, arguing that’s the reason Congress does not require its members to sign up.
The current House health care legislation states that members of Congress “may enroll” in the public plan. Wilson wants that changed to “must enroll.”
“If the public option is good enough for the American people, then it’s certainly good enough for Congress,” Wilson said. “If this government-run plan is so good, why don’t members of Congress take the plan?”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/04/wilson-proposes-forcing-congress-government-health-insurance-plan/
Don’t kill grandma is a Freedomworks beast:
FreedomWorks and Americans for Prosperity both originated from a campaign called Citizens for a Sound Economy, which split in two in 2004. CSE was set up by oil tycoon David Koch, who has funded rightwing causes for decades. Citizens for a Sound Economy (grassroots machine) merged with Empower America (policy expertise) in 2004 and was renamed FreedomWorks, with Dick Armey, Jack Kemp and C. Boyden Gray serving as co-chairmen,
moaning about How conservative activists make a “killing” of their Causes…what r u jealous…but seriously..Let me point out a “Inconvienent Truth” to you BlueJay..How much has AL ‘cant show me either a tree or cheeseburger i’ve never loved’ GORE stolen thru his HYPE of Global Warming (oops..cant call it that anymore since the Earth is cooling for the last 10 yrs..so Lets name it CLIMATE CHANGE!!!) Must be be nice to fly around in G-5 Gulfsteam fueled by all the Grease it takes to make his Cheeseburgers..
Freebird1971
Posted November 5, 2009 at 10:18 am | Permalink
All of the criticism of the Tea Party is fear driven. Fear of it’s growth and staying power. I sensed just as much energy yesterday as I did at the Tax Day Tea Party in April. It’s not going away.
That’s why the lefties keep trying to dismiss it.They are afraid of dissnet
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Very true! Numerous Lib posters spending hours here trying to count heads at an event they didn’t even attend, is evidence of their fear.
Now if I said there were thousands of Martians emerging from space ships all over America, then would the Libs and their MSM be spending thousands of hours trying to dispute the number of Martians?
Of course not. Why waste time trying to discredit something if it’s obviously not true?
http://trillionthtonne.org/
“If we are to limit global warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions to less than 2°C, widely regarded as necessary to avoid dangerous climate change, we need to limit total cumulative emissions to less (possibly much less) than. . .”
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Numbers at link.
BTW, I heard on the radio that Martians have landed at Grover’s Mill New Jersey. We are being invaded by Mars!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SOGp4vgXHw
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/health/One-in-a-Million-Shot-64189142.html
LOL!! If the Tea Party enthusiasts continue to split the conservative vote and help Democrats win… “Bring it on!.”
The only folks ’scared’ of the Tea Party are Republicans.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/29/natalie-morton-british-sc_n_302753.html
The Ferret gets his own Teleprompter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm8Oll5pVRA
- They gave him a teleprompter because he couldn’t memorize his lines.
- They cut him some slack because he looked good.
Chas writes:
Chas
Posted November 4, 2009 at 10:44 pm | Permalink
Name ONE President in modern times who didnt use one of the following items when making an address:
1) Manuscript
2) Cue Cards
3) Teleprompter
NAME ONE…. THEY ALL USE ONE OF THE ABOVE…
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ROFLMAO!!!!
jimyjam656565 posted November 5, 2009 at 11:59 am
. . . HYPE of Global Warming (oops..cant call it that anymore since the Earth is cooling for the last 10 yrs..so Lets name it CLIMATE CHANGE!!!)
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jimy,
The IPCC was formed 21 years ago, in 1988.
http://www.ipcc.ch/index.htm
What does the “CC” in “IPCC” stand for?
(Hint: It’s not “Global Warming”).
‘Statistics experts reject global cooling claims‘
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gGAa00xryzkYa7FUhfip-CDPM_tgD9BITAG00
“The Earth is still warming, not cooling as some global warming skeptics are claiming, according to an analysis of global temperatures by independent statistics experts.”
DavidB
Posted November 5, 2009 at 12:10 pm | Permalink
LOL!! If the Tea Party enthusiasts continue to split the conservative vote and help Democrats win… “Bring it on!.”
The only folks ’scared’ of the Tea Party are Republicans.
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I talked to a lot of people and of course, most were Conservative. But I spoke to some people who could only be classified as Independent.
If the movement does morph into a 3rd party, Republicans will be the ones who pay the price. But only for a cycle or 2. Keep in mind, Democrats are he11-bent to drive off Independents. Many of the concerns of the Tea Party movement are concerns of Independents.
There are a lot of Americans who are just plain fed up with both parties.
Can you see where this might go?
JimJohnson posted November 5, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Very true! Numerous Lib posters spending hours here trying to count heads at an event they didn’t even attend, is evidence of their fear.
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donndublin
Posted November 5, 2009 at 8:54 am
I counted the cars just in the parking lot at over 900. There were many more on the side streets.
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donndublin
Posted November 5, 2009 at 9:31 am
Go to google earth zoom in and count the parking spaces.
David, you might as well discredit the number of Martians invading too, since you believe that is just as untrue as the number of Tea Party Protestors.
I can see where the Tea Party Protests are going…
Directly to the voting booths.
The only Republicans I see that fear the Tea Parties, are the RHINO.
And the RHINO are on the verge of extinction.
Yep, Ole BJ who didnt even attend the event (although he said he was going to) knows ALL about it
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The time may be coming for a third party that has some acutal clout. we shall see. For myself, I will vote for candidates, not the party. The party leaders could give a damn about the majority of the people. Nixon’s “silent majority” exists in both parties. They are tired of the radicals of the parties hijacking the party itself. They may try and take back the parties of the the far right/left. I still register as a Republican, but am barely within the party. A new party would be more to my liking. One that is more financially conservative, and less socially conservative. Some of the social conservatives ideas are okay, but the immediate pressing concern, and only real job of the federal government, can only be served by being financially conservative and not really even worrying about “social conservative” values issues. Some are important perhaps, but there are far more serious issues that need to be addressed.
“And the RHINO are on the verge of extinction.
REAL Rhinos are and that’s a sad other story.
But less strident (slightly more sane and less greedy) cons marginalized out for not being true enough to the faith? That population is large and growing.
“It does not take a majority to prevail … but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.” –Samuel Adams
Hey cosmos…I hope that since u prefer to BUY into UN hype (ie; IPCC)..and u have have already stocked up bermuda shorts and tank tops to help combat the Heat from global warming..that u also stocked up plenty of ice to put into the KOOL-AID u are obviously gulping down by the gallon.. I guess it all depends on What “experts” u choose to listen to..I prefer ones who base theories on rational thought not hype..
You tell us what I’ve been wrong about “Freebird”.
Donndublin gave us an assessment of the parking (funny how he didn’t mention counting cars yesterday?) and I said attendance was under 2,000. Various sources have confirmed that. What else ya got?
There is still some semblance of reason left on the right. Hence the nomination of John McCain!
The fact that you were not there and they were. Why are you afraid of them?
littlejohn
Posted November 5, 2009 at 12:31 pm | Permalink
xxx-
The time may be coming for a third party that has some acutal clout. we shall see. For myself, I will vote for candidates, not the party. The party leaders could give a damn about the majority of the people. Nixon’s “silent majority” exists in both parties. They are tired of the radicals of the parties hijacking the party itself. They may try and take back the parties of the the far right/left. I still register as a Republican, but am barely within the party. A new party would be more to my liking. One that is more financially conservative, and less socially conservative. Some of the social conservatives ideas are okay, but the immediate pressing concern, and only real job of the federal government, can only be served by being financially conservative and not really even worrying about “social conservative” values issues. Some are important perhaps, but there are far more serious issues that need to be addressed.
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I get a little nervous about third parties. I was deeply involved in the local chapter of the Perot campaign. That was really heart-breaking.
There are a he11 of a lot of us who have no place to go….we’re neither fish nor fowl. I’m a social liberal and a fiscal conservative.
I welcome single-payer.
They’ll get my guns when they pry my cold, dead fingers off the triggers.
How does my not being there have anything to do with my posts as to the size of the crowd “Freebird”?
Don says HE was there. Granted his story is evolving but so FAR he is the only source I have seen that claimed attendance of more than 2,000. Burden of proof is on him not me.
jimyjam656565 posted November 5, 2009 at 12:37
I prefer ones who base theories on rational thought not hype..
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Examples of jimy’s “rational thought”. /sarcasm OFF
jimyjam656565 posted November 5, 2009 at 11:59 am
. . . HYPE of Global Warming (oops..cant call it that anymore since the Earth is cooling for the last 10 yrs..so Lets name it CLIMATE CHANGE!!!)
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The IPCC was formed 21 years ago, in 1988.
http://www.ipcc.ch/index.htm
jimy, what does the “CC” in “IPCC” stand for?
(Hint: It’s not “Global Warming”).
‘Statistics experts reject global cooling claims‘
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gGAa00xryzkYa7FUhfip-CDPM_tgD9BITAG00
“The Earth is still warming, not cooling as some global warming skeptics are claiming, according to an analysis of global temperatures by independent statistics experts.”
How does my not being there have anything to do with my posts as to the size of the crowd “Freebird”?
simply put you weren’t man enough to go there yourself,after saying you would the ones that DID attend had no particular ax to grind they just reported what they observed. So I’m inclined to put more credence in the ones that were there than someone who wasn’t,and whose only goal is to ridicule something he is vewry afraid of
“Top counselor to the President, Valerie Jarrett, offered the first White House comment on Afghanistan presidential candidate Abdullah Abdullah’s withdrawal from the run-off election scheduled for next weekend, saying that it will not further complicate the U.S. strategy in the region.
Jarrett also acknowledged to me this morning that the President’s long awaited decision on Afghanistan could slip to late November. “The President will make a decision when he is confident he has all the facts he needs,” she said, this morning on ‘This Week.’”
Could someone please tell me what facts the President needs, and with an administration of thousands, he can;t find the answers? He stated he hand an answer during the campaign, then he stated he had concluded a comprehensive policy review last March, now he is waiting for “facts”
WHAT THE HELL IS THE PROBLEM??!!!
Sorry Mr. President. You cannot vote present. You must decide, and whether or not you made from of President Bush’s statement, you are the “decider” So decide. Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way.
That’s another way of saying you’ll believe what you’d RATHER believe than what is true according to the preponderance of the facts there “Freebird”.
I had better things to do. It’s your “cause” not mine. Why weren’t you there?
Why weren’t you there?
Unlike you I have a job with regular hours,I can’t work only when I feel like it,much like you seem to do.
Please point out where I said it was my “cause”,and’ why are you so scared of them?
XXX-
I feel for you, man. Both parties have been hijacked by the extremists. You and I probably disagree on many points—-for instance, I disagree completely about single payer, but we can only offer our voice, our vote, and our money (sometimes) to the issues we agree with. In fact, I am pretty much, no , I am completely out of, donating money to any party and few candidates. I support issues, not parties or people.
“the ones that DID attend had no particular ax to grind they just reported what they observed.”
If you choose to regard donndublins evolving account as objective reporting you will LOVE FOX “news”.
Same question to you BJ,you said you were going to be there,why weren’t you?
Hanging around gatherings of cranky cons is not high on my list of ways to spend my time “Freebird”. It’s probably somewhere below counting cars and arguing with ankle biters.
Blow Hard, In case you weren’t aware several other posters where there I read all their accounts. What ax do you have to grind with dissent?
BlueJay
Posted November 5, 2009 at 1:02 pm | Permalink
Hanging around gatherings of cranky cons is not high on my list of ways to spend my time “Freebird”. It’s probably somewhere below counting cars and arguing with ankle biters.
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You said you were going so I must assume you are not a person of their word.
Yeah lose your cool and call me names. I’ve done nothing more than comment on the attendance as reported by various posters and the media. YOU seem to be the one with a personal investment in making the event bigger than it was. Sorry I couldn’t help ya with that. Say three serenity prayers and yap at me in the morning!
Yesterday, Bj was saying there were only hundreds now hes’saying less than 2000. Who’s evolving?
Is that 20 hundred?
The police estimated a crowd of 2000. During the 30 minutes I was there, people were coming and going. It could easily be spectulated that more than 2000 attended.
The point is Bj, who renigged on going, likes to talk out his azz. Big talk no walk.
littlejohn
Posted November 5, 2009 at 12:56 pm | Permalink
XXX-
I feel for you, man. Both parties have been hijacked by the extremists. You and I probably disagree on many points—-for instance, I disagree completely about single payer, but we can only offer our voice, our vote, and our money (sometimes) to the issues we agree with. In fact, I am pretty much, no , I am completely out of, donating money to any party and few candidates. I support issues, not parties or people
I see the time coming when party line goosesteppers are going to be in the minority and people that see issues as they are and not see them as a means to gain more power for themselves are going to be the ones calling the shots.
‘Al Gore follow-up to ‘An Inconvenient Truth’ published‘
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gkRcJZaSbIF7eTowMzZuapnIjA1A
” “Despite the many challenges to solving the climate crisis, there is hope, and the opportunities are everywhere — especially in the form of increasingly powerful technological tools,” Gore said.”
BJ, If you are going to talk the talk at least try to walk the walk.
Freebird, Bj always talking about how he’s going to call Rush and Hannity, but he chickens out there too.
BlueJay
Posted November 5, 2009 at 1:09 pm | Permalink
Yeah lose your cool and call me names
I call it as I see it
The GORACLE said: increasingly powerful technological tools
Would that be like ‘Fry Daddy’ or ‘Grease Grill” – for obese Climate Alarmists?
25 Posters talking to themselves
177 Meaningless posts
427 min that nobody will ever get back;
Cost = many dollars of lost productivity; wasted bits and bites of digital resources;
Enjoyment to those who actually think, priceless
Looks like KBR employees have raped almost as many people as Soldiers they electrocuted, and why do they get government contracts?
http://www.politicususa.com/en/KBR-Gang-Rape
preordained1
Posted November 5, 2009 at 1:14 pm | Permalink
25 Posters talking to themselves
177 Meaningless posts
427 min that nobody will ever get back;
Cost = many dollars of lost productivity; wasted bits and bites of digital resources;
Enjoyment to those who actually think, priceless
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Hmmm well, in addition to that:
2 loads of clothes washed and dried
dishes washed, dried and put away
Living room vacuumed
Run to pharmacy and grocery store
filled up the car with gas
breakfast
Modeled a mesh in 3D
took three phones
shook the dew off the lilly
mopped the kitchen
sent two emails
took out trash
took out some items to thaw from freezer
posted some on WE Blog
–that’s I can remember…
phone calls that is
Regular posted November 5, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Would that be like ‘Fry Daddy’ or ‘Grease Grill” – for obese Climate Alarmists?
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Regular,
What is Al Gore’s weight now”?
Hey Thomas Paine!
Remember this gem?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0512270176dec27,0,1632557.story
Bushco/Obamaco…eh? same difference.
What is Al Gore’s weight now?
The GORACLE is more about volume, flow of hot air and quivering mass than weight.
Hotair(t)A^(2heightofGORACLE))1/3 = Puffed Up Imagery/AGW(hype)
Regular,
If you could refute the AGW theory, you would not have to make fat jokes about Al Gore.
BTW: Fat jokes about people who are not fat makes people laugh at the person telling the joke.
If you could refute the AGW theory, you would not have to make fat jokes about Al Gore
No need to refute AGW theory, it refuted itself with the last ten years of no temperature increases on a global scale. That’s not me saying that, that’s Hadley Centre in London – you know where Climate Models are calculated.
Regular
Posted November 5, 2009 at 1:23 pm | Permalink
phone calls that is
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There for a minute I thought maybe you’d started jacking phones…
There for a minute I thought maybe you’d started jacking phones…
Probably would get laughed at trying to sell them. Everyone wants cellphones these days. :D
There could easily been 1,500 to 2,000 people. It was a lovely fall day and, heck, yer retired with nothin’ else to do.. why not. It didn’t cost nothin’.
The real point is they have no agenda but feeling patriotic and saying no to all efforts at reform of any kind.
The sponsors seem to want to push the Republicans farther to the right… or start a break away, more extremely reactionary political party.
Be my guest… such a strategy bodes well for Democratic Party domination fo decade to come….
Bald isn’t necessarily beautiful:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1225042/Germanys-bald-bears-Fur-disease-afflicts-Dolores-baffles-vets.html
Maybe it’s a werewolf gene? :D
Gee, Reg. Sounds like my day yesterday…
Ooops… I had 13 phone calls… but other than that, looks about like my day yesterday..
BlueJay
Posted November 5, 2009 at 1:09 pm | Permalink
Yeah lose your cool and call me names
I call it as I see it
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Ok, let’s test that statement. You keep talking about cranky old people. How many people did you talk to at the Tea Party that were cranky?
I talked to at least a couple dozen people. In each case I identified myself as a left of center Independent who was there to see what Tea Parties were really about. In all cases, I was treated with respect by some very friendly people. Not a cranky one in the bunch.
Rachel Maddow interviewed al Gore.. I think the video is online now..
Let’s play guess his weight. That way you won’t have to think about his message! He also takes on the profiteering stories, btw.
I asked this before. Maybe it got lost among WE Blog CON flotsam and jetsam.
How many of yesterday’s tea-baggers were covered by Medicare?
“I identified myself as a left of center Independent who was there to see what Tea Parties were really about.”
So you basically said ‘Hi, I’m a potential recruit.” and they were nice to you? Shocker.
Did you ask them how they felt about a public option for health care, repeal of the Reagan tax cuts? That might have got a less friendly but more honest reaction. They weren’t THERE because they were happy or to be friendly. They were there because they are irrational and afraid.
Regular posted November 5, 2009 at 1:36 pm
No need to refute AGW theory, it refuted itself with the last ten years of no temperature increases on a global scale. That’s not me saying that, that’s Hadley Centre in London – you know where Climate Models are calculated.
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The Met Office Hadley Centre?
Has poor Regular’s stroke caused him to incorrectly believe that Hadley has “refuted” the AGW theory?
‘Four degrees and beyond‘
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climatechange/news/latest/four-degrees.html
“If greenhouse gas emissions continue to rise unchecked, it is likely that global warming will exceed four degrees by the end of the century, research by Met Office scientists has revealed.
Our scientists, working on behalf of Department of Energy and Climate Change (DECC), have found that if current high emissions continue there could be major implications for the world — with higher temperature rises than previously thought.”
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‘Statistics experts reject global cooling claims‘
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gGAa00xryzkYa7FUhfip-CDPM_tgD9BITAG00
“The Earth is still warming, not cooling as some global warming skeptics are claiming, according to an analysis of global temperatures by independent statistics experts.”
“They were there because they are irrational and afraid”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!
Om My gawd!!!!
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!
Monkeyhawk
Posted November 5, 2009 at 2:00 pm | Permalink
I asked this before. Maybe it got lost among WE Blog CON flotsam and jetsam.
How many of yesterday’s tea-baggers were covered by Medicare?
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Monk, it does no good to ask a question that can’t be answered. If I had to make a guess, I’d say half.
Saturday vote on House Health bill possible.
See?
Monkeyhawk posted November 5, 2009 at 2:00 pm
How many of yesterday’s tea-baggers were covered by Medicare?
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And if they were not covered by Medicare, how many had family, friends, etc, that were covered by it?
BlueJay
Posted November 5, 2009 at 2:07 pm | Permalink
“I identified myself as a left of center Independent who was there to see what Tea Parties were really about.”
So you basically said ‘Hi, I’m a potential recruit.” and they were nice to you? Shocker.
Did you ask them how they felt about a public option for health care, repeal of the Reagan tax cuts? That might have got a less friendly but more honest reaction. They weren’t THERE because they were happy or to be friendly. They were there because they are irrational and afraid.
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“They were there because they are irrational and afraid.”
And you know this how? I didn’t run into anybody who was irrational. I talked to a lot of people who were afraid. You going to run them down for that?
Now answer my question:
How many cranky people did you talk to at the Tea Party?
The same sort of folk are outside the Capitol today shouting “Kill the bill! Kill the bill!”
Meaning kill health care coverage provisions for people who don’t have health care.
Their leaders are Glenn Beck and Ron Paul. Not exactly fonts of human charity and community spirit.
I don’t WANT to find common ground with that.
cosmos_originally
Posted November 5, 2009 at 2:12 pm | Permalink
Monkeyhawk posted November 5, 2009 at 2:00 pm
How many of yesterday’s tea-baggers were covered by Medicare?
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And if they were not covered by Medicare, how many had family, friends, etc, that were covered by it?
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Cosmo, a question that can’t be answered is a stupid question.
You’re better than that.
BlueJay, How many cranky people did you talk to at the Tea Party?
Did ya yuk it up with the folks about the defeat of gay marriage in Maine? Ya know, like ya did here? That’d earn ya a warm handshake and a how do ya do.
On a lighter note.
How do you explain This to the insurance company?
http://www.kansas.com/news/weird/story/1042157.html
SUV Nearly hits Elephant…In Oklahoma!
I don’t imagine people who shout “kill the bill!” have much of anything sociable to say to me.
XXX_
you might as well give it up… some people just talk out their azz with no intent of backing any of it up.
More hedge fund insider trading arrests, made possible by wire taps. What is it that Obama doesn’t get (that bush understood so well) that there’s one set of laws for ordinary people/traders, and another for the powers that be, fund managers,rich and famous or sons of Repub presidents?
I trust you’ll let me know if you find any common ground or polite conversation for me with people who shout “kill the bill” there XXX. I can’s stay and help ya look for it. Don can put more than 900 cars in 827 spaces. Maybe he can help.
I doubt it. You have a pleasant afternoon.
Hmmmm – seems like this is kinda pre-ordained . . . .
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What happened when Florida instituted a government-run insurance option in response to rising property insurance premiums? Alex Tabarrok points us to the following history lesson by the Independent Institute’s Randall Holcombe:
After Hurricane Andrew hit Florida in 1992 some Floridians were having difficulty purchasing homeowners’ insurance. (The reason: rates are regulated, and at the regulated rates some properties are too great a risk.) So, the state government formed Citizens Property Insurance Corporation, which is owned and operated by the State of Florida.
As originally envisioned, Citizens would charge rates above those charged by private insurers, to make Citizens the insurer of last resort. Nevertheless, Citizens found plenty of customers.
After two bad hurricane seasons in 2004 and 2005 property insurance rates in Florida rose, and in his campaign for the office, current Governor Charlie Crist promised voters that if elected he would see that their property insurance bills “dropped like a rock.”
One tactic he used was to change Citizens’ rate structure so it was competitive with private insurers. His idea, like President Obama’s idea with health insurance, is that with a public option, private insurers would have to keep their rates in line or risk losing customers to the government insurer.
That’s what’s happened in Florida. Today about 30% of homeowners’ policies are written by Citizens, which is the largest property insurer in the state. It’s about to get bigger too. The largest private insurer, State Farm, had a rate request rejected last year, and now is pulling out of the state altogether (for property insurance; they’ll still insure your car). As the largest private insurer pulls out over a three-year period (that period negotiated with the state), Citizens will get an even larger share of Florida’s property insurance.
Everybody in Florida knows Citizens is a fiscal time bomb. Already, every Florida insurance policy (on homes, boats, cars, etc.) pays a surcharge that goes to Citizens, but Citizens still doesn’t have sufficient reserves to weather a major hurricane. When one comes, Florida taxpayers will be on the hook for the bill.
The legislature knows this, and actually passed a bill last year that would have done a great deal to solve the problem by partially deregulating rates private insurers could charge. State Farm would have stayed in Florida had that bill taken effect, but it was vetoed by the Governor. The public option is displacing private insurance.
http://reason.com/blog/2009/11/04/the-public-option-is-displacin
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Surprised? You shouldn’t be – and notice the reality as pointed out here re: Obamacare. Those with private insurance pay for their insurance AND for the”public option.”
The only difference? Obamacare’s “public option” is DESIGNED to become the single payer; Florida looks like they’re falling into it. End result: Identical. And predictable.
WEll GMC70-
Public Healthcare worked well in Hawaii…. Oh wait…
Indeed. Obama/Pelosi/Reid Care is about getting to single Payer. It is their dream to control that much of people’s lives, and the economy.
BlueJay
Posted November 5, 2009 at 2:22 pm | Permalink
I don’t imagine people who shout “kill the bill!” have much of anything sociable to say to me.
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Funny, I didn’t hear anybody shout “kill the bill at LD.
Did you?
How many cranky people did you talk to at the Tea Party?
lj,
Hey, I went to that circus Sunday afternoon! Pretty good show! Two whole elephants, and one got away?
As for trying to explain things, I once had to call cablevision and tell them my TV cable in northeast Wichita had been torn down by the mast of a passing sailboat. It took quite a while to convince them I wasn’t drunk and to come look at it.
BlueJay
Posted November 5, 2009 at 2:20 pm | Permalink
Did ya yuk it up with the folks about the defeat of gay marriage in Maine?
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Actually, the subject never came up.
Jed-
Yeah, I bet. Crazy crap happens all the time. Of course, imagine being on the other side of the line!!!
Fort Hood attack, I’m guessing retired military, organized group, either tea party members or home grown Texan seccessionist.
The defeat of gay marriage in Maine.
heh,heh,heh,heh.
Yuk, yuk.
7 dead, 12 wounded, 3 shooters, with m-16’s.
lj,
“Of course, imagine being on the other side of the line!!!”
I was imagining their reaction, and it got more than a bit hilarious at the time. I somehow forgot to mention the trailer under the sailboat, but I still have no cogent explanation as to why the guy was trying to tow it through a carwash at midnight.
GMC and his psychotic pal Pleef’s talk about Liberals “not allowing” freedom of speech that we disagree with is absurd.
Not a single liberal on the WEBlog has ever posted that the T-baggers didn’t have a right to lawful assembly and protest.
We simply disagree with their message.
(Actually, other than “taxes are too high,” I’m not sure exactly what they’re so mad about.)
This is a marked CONtrast with the CONs who called Iraq war protestors “traitors” and “terrorist lovers” when we protested.
In other words, the CONs seek to shut down dissent with personal attacks and veiled threats.
Libs in no sense are stifling dissent.
now 20 wounded.
lj,
Sorry that circus had an elephant incident. We went to it Sunday up on north Broadway- lots more fun than the big shows. Less glitz, more performance, a show where the audience participated too, a much more intimate setting. Such circuses are getting rarer all the time, and it’s too bad. These are the traditional circuses of our grandparent’s day.
The reason I do not consider the Tea crowd a legitimate threat to progressive initiatives is that much of their agenda is not reality based.
They’re only a threat to the Republican establishment.
The defeat of reliably Republican House seat in New York.
heh,heh,heh,heh.
Yuk, yuk.
XXX posted November 5, 2009 at 2:16 pm
cosmos_originally
Posted November 5, 2009 at 2:12 pm | Permalink
Monkeyhawk posted November 5, 2009 at 2:00 pm
How many of yesterday’s tea-baggers were covered by Medicare?
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And if they were not covered by Medicare, how many had family, friends, etc, that were covered by it?
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Cosmo, a question that can’t be answered is a stupid question.
You’re better than that.
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Actually, the answer to my question can be estimated — most people have family, friends, etc, that are covered by Medicare.
Phant,
Don’t tell me, a handful of Texans are trying to secede from the Union.
Bet the cons will be saying ‘that couldn’t have happened under bush’:
“HOUSTON (Reuters) – At least seven people were killed and 12 wounded in a shooting at the Fort Hood, Texas, U.S. Army base Thursday, local media reported.
One gunman was in custody and another was on the loose at the military base, one of the largest military installations in the world, local media reported. There could be a third shooter involved, MSNBC reported.
An Army official confirmed the shooting, which occurred on the same day as a graduation ceremony at the base. But the official gave no details on the number of victims.
U.S. President Barack Obama has been briefed on the shootings, and the White House is monitoring the situation, a White House spokesman said.
The attack happened at the Soldier Readiness Center at Fort Hood, according to the FOX 4 television station.
The base is currently in lockdown mode, according to Fort Hood’s website.
Fort Hood is halfway between Austin and Waco, about 60 miles from each city, in Texas.
That must be crazy land, 60 miles from Waco.
Jed-
yeah, I wanted to go to that one when it was intown, and had last minute change of plans. But, I have been to a Carson and Barnes circus show. You are right, it many ways the small ciruses are the best. I love the smaller, more intimate setting. KInda like going to the cotillion vs going to the coloseum
Tea in Washington:
KILL THE BILL
“A series of spot interviews suggests that the protesters have come to Washington from all across the country – Texas, Ohio, Oregon and the greater Washington area. It’s a generally older crowd, many in their 50s and 60s, predominantly, white, and many self-identified as Christians. They are fiercely conservative and deeply skeptical of the government, many of them adamantly opposed to abortion rights.”
http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/05/on-the-hill-protesters-chant-kill-the-bill/?hp
I saw thrt standing behind bohner at the Wash. tea party. I think he and brownback are trying to out radical each other.
XXX, did you talk to all 4 of the counter protesters? Were they as friendly as the others?
Looks like a real mess at Ft. Hood… Gov. Perry to speak at 5 p.m. Obama to speak soon… CNN & MSNBC
Times for those speakers are EST… 5 p.m. CST
9 confirmed dead… Shooter is an Army Major, with an “Arabic” sounding name…
Gov. Perry Press Conference to start SOON…
COunt goes higher
“Twelve people were killed and 31 wounded in shootings at Fort Hood today, Army officials said”
Now up to 12. That’s awful.
Tragedies are no time for politics.
20 dead, 30 wounded.
BlueJay
Posted November 4, 2009 at 3:13 pm | Permalink
“The church parking lot and all the side streets were full too.”
Well that casts a little doubt on the 2,000 figure. I went to a lot of Wrangler games. Their average attendance was much less than 2,000 and I had the same parking conditions.
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Like most libs, bj has a hard time with numbers. According to WBJ the average attendence is 3,500 fans a game. He’s only off 90-100%.
http://wichita.bizjournals.com/wichita/stories/2008/06/16/story5.html
Then he says the parking lot is overflowing at 30% capacity. Just like the Hannity event, Bj pulls shceit out of his azz.
“Now up to 12. That’s awful.
Tragedies are no time for politics.”
Strongly seconded.
The count was updated by a military spokesperson.
donndublin
Posted November 5, 2009 at 4:09 pm | Permalink
Like most libs, bj has a hard time with numbers. According to WBJ the average attendence is 3,500 fans a game. He’s only off 90-100%.
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donndublin,
Why are you still arguing about this? By the City of Wichita’s count the parking lot at L-D Stadium has 827 spots. By your own admission, one-third of these spots were being used by the traveling Tea Partiers and the audience/protesters. That only leaves, by my math, 551 parking spots available for this event.
Your claim to have counted 900 cars in the parking lot at L-D Stadium cannot possibly be supported by the facts.
donndublin
Posted November 5, 2009 at 4:09 pm | Permalink
Like most libs, bj has a hard time with numbers. According to WBJ the average attendence is 3,500 fans a game. He’s only off 90-100%.
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donndublin,
Why are you still arguing about this? By the City of Wichita’s count the parking lot at L-D Stadium has 827 spots. By your own admission, one-third of these spots were being used by the traveling Tea Partiers and the audience/protesters. That only leaves, by my math, 551 parking spots available for this event.
Your claim to have counted 900 cars in the parking lot at L-D Stadium cannot possibly be supported by the facts.
http://www.wichitagov.org/News/Announcements/10-15-2009b.htm
Sorry for the double….
Someone must’ve put up the wrong numbers, now back to 12 killed, 31 injured. Shame they’ve been able to infiltrate our military.
Horrific. Prayers for the victims and families at Ft. Hood. Let’s not jump to conclusions; rather, let’s be patient and get the facts. Those responsible, and any who aided or abeted them, should be prosecuted to the fullest extent possible.
Right now, however, those folks need information and prayers.
Shooter was an Army Major, wonder how they recruited a lifer?
BlueJay
Posted November 5, 2009 at 2:28 pm | Permalink
I trust you’ll let me know if you find any common ground or polite conversation for me with people who shout “kill the bill” there XXX. I can’s stay and help ya look for it. Don can put more than 900 cars in 827 spaces. Maybe he can help.
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The 827 figure is just the west parking lot. If you take away the 200 spaces blocked off, that leaves 627. There are another 200 spaces south the the stadium and the church to the north has another 210 spaces. That’s a total of 1037 spaces. Seems I didn’t get them all counted.
Go count them Bj or shut the f_ _ _ up.
“The suspected gunman was identified as Major Malik Nadal Hasan” … Hum ???
“The shooter was killed and two other suspects, who are also soldiers, have been apprehended” … Hum ???
The military said today that “more than one shooter” opened fire” … Hum ???
Now they’re saying not m-16’s but hand guns. Good thing he didn’t have an m-16 with alot of clips.
Maybe it’ll just turn out to be a solitary shooter.
Yet the Dim’ocrats will now undoubtedly call for restrictions on guns in the military.
donndublin
Posted November 5, 2009 at 4:39 pm | Permalink
The 827 figure is just the west parking lot.
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Says who?
The City of Wichita says that there are 827 parking spots in Lawrence-Dumont Stadium.
I’ll bet they even hired engineers to count them all.
http://www.wichitagov.org/News/Announcements/10-15-2009b.htm
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Boxlock20
Posted November 5, 2009 at 4:50 pm | Permalink
Yet the Dim’ocrats will now undoubtedly call for restrictions on guns in the military.
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Undoubtedly. What time frame do you predict for these restrictions to be proposed?
“GMC and his psychotic pal Pleef’s talk about Liberals “not allowing” freedom of speech that we disagree with is absurd.
Not a single liberal on the WEBlog has ever posted that the T-baggers didn’t have a right to lawful assembly and protest.
We simply disagree with their message.”-Captain
No you “simply disagree” by belittling anyone else who ain’t going along with your program. It’s like the black guy who gets offended at someone saying the “n-word” but calls his himself that word all day long. And now the gay folks who want a whole new class of criminal, “the hate criminal” to watch what they say about the gay community, but ya’ll are free to call folks a name that denigrates and belittles the gay community.
You fools don’t even know what you believe. Just as long as you get to pay your parents back for giving birth to you.
“his psychotic pal Pleef”-
So go get me a Pepsi.
Name’s will never hurt me.
Daniel, That 827 number doesn’t include the south parking lot or the church. If you count the west parking lot you will see that it comes to 827. That 1/3 figure I used was just a guess. Now that I’ve counted them I see it was less than that.
Count them yourself and prove me wrong.
http://gis.wichita.gov/outsidegeneral/
Do you think they would allow a stadium with a capacity of 6100 to be accomadated by a parking lot of 827 spaces. That comes to more than 7 per vehicle. Not everyone drive extended vans.
“Undoubtedly. What time frame do you predict for these restrictions to be proposed?”—Daniel
Whatever time frame they consider will get the most traction for them.
The city says there are 827 spaces available for shuttle service. The city does not own the church parking lot either.
Oh great. Jihad at Ft Hood?
It seems the soldiers killed at Ft.Hood rate more headlines then soldiers killed in Afghanistan, for some reason.
Well what can happen if we put a bunch of dudes in a combat situation for 8 long and stressful years instead of swap ‘em out every year like in Viet Nam…
Good news is that most of ‘em get out and become police officers.
What a boiling pot…
Phantom
Posted November 5, 2009 at 2:42 pm | Permalink
Fort Hood attack, I’m guessing retired military, organized group, either tea party members or home grown Texan seccessionist.
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Phantom
Posted November 5, 2009 at 2:42 pm | Permalink
7 dead, 12 wounded, 3 shooters, with m-16’s.
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You see Phantom jumps on the wagon of rumor spreading, and even creating his own false accusations.
Notice how quick Phantom is to point out soldiers getting killed in Afghanistan.
Oh yeah…tell ‘em the job is done and then take their purpose out from under them too.
Then be sure and pay the private contractors 5 times more than a regular soldier. That always helps.
Seems the Major was protesting deployment to Iraq, he could’ve just resigned! Then Amway would think he was a hero, instead of a murderer.
Phantom
Posted November 5, 2009 at 4:49 pm | Permalink
Now they’re saying not m-16’s but hand guns. Good thing he didn’t have an m-16 with alot of clips.
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An M-16 with clips?
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Boxlock20
Posted November 5, 2009 at 4:59 pm | Permalink
“Undoubtedly. What time frame do you predict for these restrictions to be proposed?”—Daniel
Whatever time frame they consider will get the most traction for them.
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So your answer to my question would be ‘they’ll never actually propose something that stupid I just couldn’t pass up the opportunity to be a complete and utter d!ck-wad and attempt to politicize this tragic event for my own hack partisan purposes.’
kthxby
Those M-16’s with clips are a lot better than those muzzle-loader versions…
donndublin
Posted November 5, 2009 at 4:58 pm | Permalink
Count them yourself and prove me wrong.
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To be completely honest with you I just really don’t care that much. I was merely trying to point out the absurdity of continuing to argue over what is basically an unimportant point. I obviously failed.
Apparently, absurdity is lost on the absurd.
Phantom
Posted November 5, 2009 at 4:04 pm | Permalink
20 dead, 30 wounded.
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Gotta link?
Might as well claim 200 dead, that would maximize your fear mongering.
Pleefer
Posted November 5, 2009 at 5:11 pm | Permalink
Those M-16’s with clips are a lot better than those muzzle-loader versions…
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I prefer the Winchester 94 with 30 round clips, flash suppressor, automatic lever action, and a bayonet, in 50 BMG.
I bet the shooter(s) had iron sights too!
Did someone just drag the Democrats into this?
Re parking lots. . .
boxlock20 posted November 5, 2009 at 7:18 am
It’s mostly the Dim’ocrats/leftists that are wrapped up in paranoia over numbers like that. Or for that matter even have the time to go count.
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DavidB
Posted November 5, 2009 at 5:20 pm | Permalink
Did someone just drag the Democrats into this?
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Boxlock20 did. File this one under ’sins imagined’ as opposed to ‘actual sins.’
Mr_Kia posted November 5, 2009 at 4:00 pm | Permalink
Now up to 12. That’s awful.
Tragedies are no time for politics.
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Agnatha posted November 5, 2009 at 4:11 pm | Permalink
“Now up to 12. That’s awful.
Tragedies are no time for politics.”
Strongly seconded.
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boxlock20 posted November 5, 2009 at 4:50 pm | Permalink
Yet the Dim’ocrats will now undoubtedly call for restrictions on guns in the military.
Shooter was an Army Psychiatrist… promoted to Major in May.
Are you reading impaired, or comprehension impaired?
An M-16 with clips?
Am M-16 with alot of clips. Get the nuance?
Sounds like the psychiatrist should’ve known when to ask for help!
Sad event at Fort Hood
Maybe boxlock20 will flip-flop on his/her “. . . restrictions on guns. . .” post, like s/he did on the ‘V’ posts?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/11/open-thread-114-4/#comment-690116
M-16 use magazines.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB5HAV_3dPQ
But who’s counting?
Oh yeah, they are upthread…
…there are unconfirmed reports that there may be as many as three shooters. Multiple shooters would point to terrorism.
Oh, and cosmos, you poor child…what an idiot you are sometimes … actually all the time.
What I meant, and is plain, is that regardless of whether there was intent with ‘V’ the effect is the same. And it tickles me.
“What I meant, and is plain, is that regardless of whether there was intent with ‘V’ the effect is the same. And it tickles me.”
PS: Oh cosmos, and by the way, if you think those producers don’t know what they are doing and simply and blindly produced something that had that effect it should even be plain to you….you’re and idiot.
“Yet the Dim’ocrats will now undoubtedly call for restrictions on guns in the military.”—copied and pasted by our resident idiot child cosmos
Notice how cosmos can’t even understand satirical comment, another example of idiocy.
And make no mistake, the Dim’ocrats will always try to make political gain, regardless of someone else’s pain.
“I prefer the Winchester 94 with 30 round clips, flash suppressor, automatic lever action, and a bayonet, in 50 BMG.”
Come on Jim….you know that description of a non-existent, ridiculous gun would be lost on the lefties.
Uh-huh. . .
boxlock20 posted November 4, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Ha ha, even Hollywood is beginning to see through the smoke and mirrors of Obama, the worst president ever, and his criminal administration.
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boxlock20 posted November 4, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Whether the producers of ‘V’ meant to do ‘whatever’ is irrelevant.
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First boxlock20 claims that “Hollywood” is attacking President Obama and his administration — then boxlock20 says that whatever the producers meant is “irrelevant“.
boxlock20 FLIP-FLOPPED.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_(2009_TV_series)
“The show’s cast and crew denies the charges of bias. While actress Baccarin acknowledges that she had modeled her character, Visitor leader Anna, after politicians, she and series executive producer Peters were surprised by the alleged “controversy.” At a press conference at Summer TV Press Tour 2009, Peters said that the show was open to interpretation” and that “people bring subjective thoughts to it…but there is no particular agenda.”[15] Peters’ colleague, Jeffrey Bell agreed, stating that it was simply “a show about spaceships.”[14] “
“So your answer to my question would be…”–Daniel
And then you go ahead and answer you’re own question implying it’s my response. Ha!
Are you okay Daniel….you’re losing it again.
Letting a blogger reduce you to a babbling idiot.
Mr_Kia posted November 5, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Now up to 12. That’s awful.
Tragedies are no time for politics.
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Agnatha posted November 5, 2009 at 4:11 pm
“Now up to 12. That’s awful.
Tragedies are no time for politics.”
Strongly seconded.
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boxlock20 posted November 5, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Yet the Dim’ocrats will now undoubtedly call for restrictions on guns in the military.
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boxlock20 posted November 5, 2009 at 5:57 pm
And make no mistake, the Dim’ocrats will always try to make political gain, regardless of someone else’s pain.
To a couple of posters attempting to provide us all minute to minute updates on this blog:
We are all now aware of the situation at Fort Hood, Texas.
We have CNN, Fox, the internet, blackberries, blueberries, and boysenberries providing us professional information from the various military, state, and media sources.
Please leave the news reporting to the aforementioned sources.
You may now continue with your normal blog programming and posting insults to each other.
That is all.
The Blogmonitor
BlogMonitor = B.M. how appropriate… :-)
“Two other soldiers were taken into custody after the shooting, but Rep. John Carter, R-Texas, said they later were released.”—MSNBC
Not that it matters as far as the tragic loss of life and injury but lets hope this was a single individual and not terrorism or a conspiracy of more than one.
Authorities released two, and took one other into custody.
Daniel
Posted November 5, 2009 at 5:12 pm | Permalink
Apparently, absurdity is lost on the absurd.
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Dannyboy,
The absurdity is you and Bj making claims without being there.
Oh, Boxie is a satirist! Now I get it. It’s just an accident he never gets satirical on conservatives… which is really really easy to do without stretching the truth very far and that makes for much better satire.)
If Visitor leader Anna, starts using “You betcha, and winking” we’ll know for sure the writers are making a political statement.
Good that it was a Muslim who’s dead and not talking. Just feedin’ the fires.
Funny how it came on the 11th hour of the healthcare debate…and that gun ownership is a serious health care issue.
…just sayin’.
Pleefer –
I have not yet heard anything about the shooter’s religious persuasion…
remember remember, the 5th of November…
Remember Sergeant Hasan Akbar? He killed fellow soldiers back in 2003. Now we have Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan.
What a coincidence.
boxlock20 also cannot understand that her/his “satirical” political comment is still a political comment.
Chas
Posted November 5, 2009 at 6:44 pm | Permalink
Pleefer –
I have not yet heard anything about the shooter’s religious persuasion…
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Fox was saying he was an Islam convert. A coworker was interviewed and said Hasam was outspoken about his objection to the war and said Muslims should rise up agianst America. That was probably the reason he was transfered to Ft. Hood.
Maybe he’d been following the tea party protestors and was spurred into action by the siren call?
“According to WBJ the average attendence is 3,500 fans a game.”
I said Wranglers games short stuff don.
Yeah Phantom and maybe Obama’s middle name is translated to Hasan in the Shiah dialect.
“Daniel, That 827 number doesn’t include the south parking lot or the church.”
And you didn’t mention the church OR counting cars in your initial post. Keep digging!
BlueJay
Posted November 5, 2009 at 6:54 pm | Permalink
“According to WBJ the average attendence is 3,500 fans a game.”
I said Wranglers games short stuff don.
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Bj, Where do all those extra 1500 fans park? Did they ride those busses you claim were there?
John Boehner is so entertaining. Have you ever seen such a stuffed shirt?
Ya lost Don. Your FIRST mistake was the absurd claim AFTER the fact that you counted cars. The city says there are 827 spaces and you tried to put “more than 900″ cars in them. How stupid would you like to look?
“Hunting season on RINOs” sign sported at the Tea event in Washington, DC. today.
I didn’t say Lawrence-Dumont west parking lot either. I drove thru all the parking lots to find a space in an unmarked area. Cars were parked any place they could sqeeze in.
I don’t go to “wingnut” games (the current Lawrence Dumont ball team). Wichita has enough of a reputation as a haven for whack jobs without advertising it. The average attendance for a Wranglers game except for their final year here was around a thousand.
Republican Health Reform Bill would leave 52 million uninsured.
“Change we want!”
Yeah and you ALSO said you found a space a block away. At sell out games with fireworks for the Wranglers, I often had to park as far away as Seneca.
Ya got less than a half a percent of the metro population for your little public…tantrum. MIGHT wanna keep the low turn out on the low down.
Go ahead and believe that BJ. The proof is in the ariel photo and in being there.
Got any more lame excuses for no showing up coward. I sure was dissappointed that I didn’t get to see the real blowjay and the look on your scared face when faced with reality.
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donndublin
Posted November 5, 2009 at 6:29 pm | Permalink
Dannyboy,
The absurdity is you and Bj making claims without being there.
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I don’t recall making any claims regarding the number of attendees at the Tea Party.
Oh and no don, I will not be your facebook friend. Stop emailing me.
DavidB,
Boehner is a peach. I just saw video of him waving around his pocket copy of the Constitution and talking about the importance of the document after which he proceeded to quote from the Declaration of Independence.
Maybe he was asleep during his High School civics class.
How did all 6100 fans park in those 827 spaces. There isn’t enough curb space between there and Seneca.
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donndublin
Posted November 5, 2009 at 7:16 pm | Permalink
How did all 6100 fans park in those 827 spaces.
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Who made that claim, donndublin? You hearing voices again?
This boy is more fixated on his need to make a few cranky into a movement than he is his on his small stature and slight build!
Now EVERYBODY parked downtown was at the teabagging. Hell I bet there was cons walked there from Oklahoma.
Sorry Don. No sizzle. A little fizzle.
And I am ready to make a counter claim.
I would venture to guess that only maybe say 75% OF that crowd was there for the cause.
I know of one con(Don) and one weather vane(XXX) who attended. I know of at least 4 count ‘em FOUR libs that were there.
Bj expects us to believe he goes to a “sold out” games when the average attendence is 1000. yeah right
Next time you ask me to “meet up” I might take you up on it. I could use a good laugh looking down at your frightened faces.
I’m outa here.
“Next time you ask me to “meet up”…
Wouldn’t there have to be a first time before there could be a next time? You’re not my type.
Blue Jay unbunch your panties
donndublin
Posted November 5, 2009 at 7:24 pm | Permalink
Bj expects us to believe he goes to a “sold out” games when the average attendence is 1000. yeah right
Next time you ask me to “meet up” I might take you up on it. I could use a good laugh looking down at your frightened faces
Don,
don’t worry he is a scared little man outside of this blog,that is why either ignores meet up invites or finds some way to weasel out,just like he did about him saying he was going top the Tea Party.
Excuse me ‘Freebird”? I passed trolling 101 a long time ago. Go bother XXX I hear he is looking for friends in low places.
“boxlock20 also cannot understand that her/his “satirical” political comment is still a political comment.”—cosmos
Of course….it was meant to be….what of it!
“Pleefer –
I have not yet heard anything about the shooter’s religious persuasion…”—Chas
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Now just what do you think Chas?
He was Muslim, (light-bulb!).
http://www.breitbart.tv/co-worker-ft-hood-gunman-made-outlandish-comments-condemning-us-foreign-policy/
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BlueJay
Posted November 5, 2009 at 7:42 pm | Permalink
Excuse me ‘Freebird”? I passed trolling 101 a long time ago. Go bother XXX I hear he is looking for friends in low places.
You are such a scared little man I almost feel sorry for you.
“You are such a scared little man I almost feel sorry for you.”–Freebird1971
Me too at first….but junior quickly got me over that.
BJ,
When they are the facts it ain’t trolling
So how come the “throw out the bums” Washington Tea Party people were addressed by the crowd of establishment Republicans????
Is somebody pulling the old switcheroo on these retirees?
David,
Because a crowd of establishment Republicans is so far preferable to the Dim’ocrats and their lies about this health care deal.
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DavidB
Posted November 5, 2009 at 7:54 pm | Permalink
So how come the “throw out the bums” Washington Tea Party people were addressed by the crowd of establishment Republicans????
Is somebody pulling the old switcheroo on these retirees?
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Sounds like a classic bait and switch scenario to me.
Also, looks like I was a day early on my
Obamacare—-> Pelosicare——-> Reidcare——–> Hitlercare comment from last night.
From today’s Tea Party in D.C.
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/1e64f44ee5.jpg
Because cons have no aversion to using ignorant people without a twinge of conscience. They’re playing most of the tea party participants. Yesterday Brownback pointed the finger at bush getting the spending started, with four fingers pointing back at himself, and the crowd didn’t call him on it.
How does Brownback get 4 fingers pointing at himself? Was he pointing with his thumb?
C’mon, let’s try to be factual with our smears.
“Republican Health Reform Bill would leave 52 million uninsured.
Typical repub play, take a bad situation, make it worse through govt ineptitude, then say “see govt. intervention doesn’t work!”
Make a closed fist with thumb on top, which is a common politician gesture. (I’d already anticipated your comeback, but if it’ll make it easier on you, …3 fingers pointing back!)
Phantom
Posted November 5, 2009 at 5:30 pm | Permalink
Are you reading impaired, or comprehension impaired?
An M-16 with clips?
Am M-16 with alot of clips. Get the nuance?
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Pleefer
Posted November 5, 2009 at 5:44 pm | Permalink
M-16 use magazines.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB5HAV_3dPQ
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Phantom is so ignorant, he doesn’t even know when he’s ignorant.
Boxlock20
Posted November 5, 2009 at 5:57 pm | Permalink
“Yet the Dim’ocrats will now undoubtedly call for restrictions on guns in the military.”—copied and pasted by our resident idiot child cosmos
Notice how cosmos can’t even understand satirical comment, another example of idiocy.
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Played Cosmos for the idiot that he is. That was mean Box.
I liked it.
Hours after Michael Steele warned moderate Republicans that they woud be targeted if they didn’t support conservative principles, the RNC Chairman called discussion of intra-party feuding “stupid” and insisted that the GOP would lose if “we play politics amongst our own.”
Hrmm…
Clip (ammunition)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A clip is a device that is used to store multiple rounds of ammunition together as a unit, ready for insertion into the magazine of a repeating firearm. This speeds up the process of loading the firearm as several rounds can be loaded at once, rather than one round being loaded at a time. Several different types of clips exist, most of which are made of inexpensive metal stampings that are designed to be disposable, though they are often re-used.
The term clip is commonly used to describe a firearm magazine, though this usage is incorrect. In the correct usage, a clip is used to feed a magazine or revolving cylinder, while a magazine or a belt is used to load cartridges into the chamber of a firearm.
I’m sure that the shooter was known as “Haji” to all of his subordinates. But at least we’ll all be occupado with how AlQaeda was able to penetrate Ft. Hood while the health care bill is voted on in the house.
A lil’ sleight of hand…
I wish that I could believe this government…one time. Still, I’m callin’ false-flag.
One of the most misused terms in the firearms culture is “Clip.” A “magazine” (shown at right) isn’t a “clip,” and a “clip” certainly isn’t a “magazine.”
It is amusing that writers who consider themselves knowledgeable or authoritative don’t know the difference between the two, or are just plain sloppy in their copy. If called on their gaffe, they often fall back on “Well, everyone knows what was meant,” or a plea to not be so pedantic.
What is especially distressing is when a company like venerable Marlin Firearms uses clips instead of magazines… there’s no excuse for that, of course, but it doesn’t stop them from selling a lot of guns.
http://www.thegunzone.com/clips-mags.html
boxlock20 posted November 5, 2009 at 7:46 pm
“boxlock20 also cannot understand that her/his “satirical” political comment is still a political comment.”—cosmos
Of course….it was meant to be….what of it!
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Right . . . boxlock20 made a political comment at 4:50 pm, and 5:57 pm.
Mr_Kia posted November 5, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Now up to 12. That’s awful.
Tragedies are no time for politics.
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Agnatha posted November 5, 2009 at 4:11 pm
“Now up to 12. That’s awful.
Tragedies are no time for politics.”
Strongly seconded.
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boxlock20 posted November 5, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Yet the Dim’ocrats will now undoubtedly call for restrictions on guns in the military.
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boxlock20 posted November 5, 2009 at 5:57 pm
And make no mistake, the Dim’ocrats will always try to make political gain, regardless of someone else’s pain.
A clip is different from a magazine and the terms are by no means interchangeable. Using “clip” when one means “magazine” is akin to saying “tires” when one actually means “wheels.” If it does get the speaker immediately corrected, often unkindly, in newsgroups and on Forums, then such a malaprop marks the user as a hopeless newbie.
As Libourel has noted, in small arms terms magazine technically refers to a box, drum or tube with a spring inside to help feed the rounds. Magazines can be a fixed part of the weapon, or detachable. Most detachable magazines can be removed and replaced with a full one to reload the weapon, but there are guns such as the Lee Enfield where the magazine is only removed for cleaning, and is refilled by a different mechanism.
A magazine may therefore be defined as a container of ammo. A room full of shells on a battleship is a magazine, and so was the Parthenon when it was used as a powder store. If one has ever visited Colonial Williamsburg, Virginia, one of the restorations there is a building, a “magazine1,” dating more than 200 years ago.
On the other hand, the ammo “clip” was introduced by Mannlicher in 1885 and provided a way to charge the magazine in the action. What so many fail to appreciate is that this type of “clip” also forms an integral part of the firearm’s mechanism. If the rounds are not held in the “clip,” the gun cannot proceed through the normal cycle of:
Chamber
Fire
Extract
Eject
This means that if a firearm is said to be “clip-loaded,” it won’t function with loose ammunition.
More reasons why the two terms should not be confused or interchanged is because the “clip” actually fits inside a magazine2. One of the most famous and widely used clip-fed weapons is John Garand’s celebrated M1 rifle with which the United States went to war, 1941-45. It might be the popularity of this firearm which has caused so many Americans to confuse reloads with “clips.” One may argue that a single round may be hand-loaded into the chamber of a Garand and fired, but the above definition still holds as the shooter is performing the loading part of the firing cycle instead of the en bloc clip.
Boxlock20
Posted November 5, 2009 at 6:00 pm | Permalink
“I prefer the Winchester 94 with 30 round clips, flash suppressor, automatic lever action, and a bayonet, in 50 BMG.”
Come on Jim….you know that description of a non-existent, ridiculous gun would be lost on the lefties.
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I know, I was just testing.
Everyone knows that gun isn’t available in 50 BMG, but 49 Magnum is almost good enough.
there’s something about Virginia Tech…
I love the 49 mag…but it only has a 1 rnd clip making it fairly inefficient.
But boy…that 1 shot!
Phantom
Posted November 5, 2009 at 8:10 pm | Permalink
Because cons have no aversion to using ignorant people without a twinge of conscience.
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You are sometimes entertaining though Phantom.
It’s like a tank on acid.
And then there’s the stamped steel devices known as “moon clips,” which come in several varieties:
Full Moon Half Moon Third Moon
These differ somewhat from clips used in rifles in that their main function is to facilitate the ejection of the rounds rather than the feeding. Some revolvers chambered for rimless pistol cartridges have stepped cylinders in which unclipped ammo can be utilized, but these won’t eject by the revolver’s extraction mechanism. Examples of revolvers which uses “clips” are the Model 1917 and the S&W Model 625, both in .45 ACP, the S&W Model 610 in 10mm/.40 S&W, and the S&W Model 940 Centennial in 9 X 19mm.
Okay, now you know what a magazine is, what a clip is, and even what a “stripper-clip” is… how they work. Go now and sin no more.
A clip is not a magazine, a mag is not a clip;
Neither is a grip a stock, and “stock” does not mean grip.
I do not mean to nitpick, but improvement could be seen,
If we could bring ourselves to say exactly what we mean.
I notice that the B.M. is flowing freely…
Re: BlogMonitor
PDNFTT
Jim,
I agree, that would be a good gun, for a lefty even.
Reuters says Shooting Suspect is still alive.
Can the press get anything right the first time?
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN0515222420091106
KILLEEN, Texas, Nov 5 (Reuters) – The suspect in a shooting rampage at Ford Hood Army post on Thursday in which 12 people were killed and 31 wounded is in a hospital in stable condition, contrary to previous reports he had been killed, an Army general said.
don’t forget the snippin clips for those hair cuts…real close to the shoulders.
Re: faux preacher
PDNFFP
Now See The Funny Unicorns?
Damn Trolls…
And Blog Reminder:
Posting Obituaries on the Weblog is in very poor taste. Further, posting the obituaries of regular bloggers on the Weblog is totally tasteless and very uncool. (even if the poster of the Obits doesn’t know the death notice isn’t really for the blogger he was trying to discredit).
“Full Moon Half Moon Third Moon
These differ somewhat from clips used in rifles in that their main function is to facilitate the ejection of the rounds rather than the feeding.”–blogm
Ah, I beg to differ. A full moon clip not only aids in ejection but is as good or faster than a speedloader. My S&W Model 22 Classic of 1917 reloads as fast as a clip fed pistol any day.
It’s gun ‘experts’ like Phantom that write all these stupid gun laws.
Government is AFU.
Anyone hear about how Government effed-up the estimate for the Flu Vaccine distribution?
Can’t wait till Gubbermint runs Health Care. They can’t even get the vaccine thing done right, and on-time.
Another Blog Reminder:
Posting in ALL CAPS is also considered extremely rude. Making up the excuse that doing so is because of a temporary recurring flinching from a stroke is also uncool, and really really dumb.
“The shooter is not dead but in custody in stable condition.”
Cone said the suspect, whom he identified as Major Nidal Malik Hasan, had been shot multiple times.”
Shot multiple times….but not enough!
It was funny how Chas got Obama and a Lizard mixed-up last night.
Chas must need his glasses fixed, or he doesn’t think very highly of Obama’s appearance.
And we all know exactly what an “assualt” rifle is…
BlogMonitor throwing his/her BM around again… Everybody knows WEBlog has no monitors, which is why BM exists. LOL
“It was funny how Chas got Obama and a Lizard mixed-up last night.”
I must have been monitoring another blog, when was that?
Can you show me what I missed?
And axe any liberal about banning those nasty “automatic” rifles and they can describe the weapon immediately.
Boxlock20
Posted November 5, 2009 at 8:59 pm | Permalink
“The shooter is not dead but in custody in stable condition.”
Cone said the suspect, whom he identified as Major Nidal Malik Hasan, had been shot multiple times.”
Shot multiple times….but not enough!
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Gonna spend thousands to save him, so they can kill him after he’s convicted.
Death count must be 11, and not 12 then. The 12 included the shooter in the reports I read.
Who can expect the press to be able to count past 10 anyway?
Following me around like a lovesick puppy is a strange way to show pity there “Freebird”.
As long as I have posted here, I have always attracted ankle biting hangers on. Your about average as those have come. Go make your own reputation here and quit trying to glom off of mine.
More often than not, those opposed to “assault” weapons will conjure up stories of automatic machine guns not knowing the difference from a “semi-automatic” weapon.
Remember, Do Not Feed The Faux Preacher DNFTFP
Say BlogMonitor, from the 11/4 Open Topic, here it is:
JimJohnson
Posted November 4, 2009 at 10:38 pm | Permalink
The Ferret gets his own Teleprompter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm8Oll5pVRA
They gave him a teleprompter because he couldn’t memorize his lines.
They cut him some slack because he looked good.
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Chas
Posted November 4, 2009 at 10:44 pm | Permalink
Name ONE President in modern times who didnt use one of the following items when making an address:
1) Manuscript
2) Cue Cards
3) Teleprompter
NAME ONE…. THEY ALL USE ONE OF THE ABOVE…
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JimJohnson
Posted November 4, 2009 at 10:52 pm | Permalink
President?
What are you talking about Chas?
Heh stick with pursuing a personal encounter with “Regular” there “Freebird”. He’s more your speed. Bonus, you get to meet the “man” behind most of the con nics here, maybe even yours!
Oh sorry Blog Monitor, it was a Ferret, not a Lizard, that confused Chas.
Chas somehow confused Obama for a Ferret.
Time to go. The unemployed bum is back on. Reminds me that I have a life. It’s not on the internet.
Weird day – a Psychiatrist that went psycho. A soldier who forgot his oath of duty and turned on his country.
How many will have suffered because a man cultivated his delusions into fear; fear into anger; and anger into revenge.
May God have mercy on his soul…
“How many will have suffered because a man cultivated his delusions into fear; fear into anger; and anger into revenge.” [REG]
Wow, sounds like what the Tea Party” people are trying to do.
Regular
Posted November 5, 2009 at 9:09 pm | Permalink
Weird day – a Psychiatrist that went psycho. A soldier who forgot his oath of duty and turned on his country.
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Sorta like some politicians who swore to uphold and defend the US Constitution…..
Two top officials at the Department of Health and Human Services acknowledged to a congressional panel Wednesday that the government had overpromised and made poor judgments on vaccination production against the current H1N1 flu pandemic.
The government’s initial plan was to have 160 million doses available in October; the actual production at month’s end was barely 15 percent of that — 24.8 million doses. Dr. Frieden attributed the shortfall to the unpredictable rate of growth of the flu virus in egg cultures that are used to make the vaccine.
In effect, the government failed to properly count its chickens — or eggs– before they hatched.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/05/hhs-admits-overstating-flu-vaccine-availability/?feat=home_cube_position1
So, the Government Health EXPERTS Did Not Know that the growth rate of a flu virus in egg cultures is unpredictable?
Then the Government Health EXPERTS are Ignorant, and not Competent enough to run a Comprehensive Health Care system!
Should be interesting to see what the “Party of NO” will do when the House Bill passes on Saturday. Should be MOST interesting.
I have come to the conclusion that people who demean, or make mockery, or publicly disrespect the POTUS should be found guilty of a crime, and punished by at least some sort of fine. Doesnt matter WHO the president is.
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BlueJay
Posted November 5, 2009 at 9:04 pm | Permalink
Following me around like a lovesick puppy is a strange way to show pity there “Freebird”.
As long as I have posted here, I have always attracted ankle biting hangers on. Your about average as those have come. Go make your own reputation here and quit trying to glom off of mine.
I wouldnt want to glom off of your reputation,which is that of a liar.
BlueJay
Posted November 5, 2009 at 9:07 pm | Permalink
Heh stick with pursuing a personal encounter with “Regular” there “Freebird”. He’s more your speed. Bonus, you get to meet the “man” behind most of the con nics here, maybe even yours
You are afraid of me,thats why you are afraid to meet me.
So how do you know I’m one of Regulars nics? You talk real big but don’t have the stones to back it up
“I have come to the conclusion that people who demean, or make mockery, or publicly disrespect the POTUS should be found guilty of a crime, and punished by at least some sort of fine. Doesnt matter WHO the president is.”-Chas
You mean like “off with their heads!”?
Don’t like the free speech bit do ya?
The precise reason for the 1st amendment, smartypants, is to be able to deman, make a mockery of and publicly disrespect the POTUS and any other public servant that we choose.
Blue Jay,
I’m going to make this very plain and clear, You are a liar,a coward and a parasite on society. I will stop there unless you would care to dispute my opinion with me face to face.
not just deman but also demean. They already deman themselves.
He’s a liar, and also has no respect for the US Constitution including the 1st and 2nd Amendments, and many others…..
On the subject of protests….
Con loon Micehlle Bachman (asked for an investigation into the media to ferret out communists) led a protest against health care reform today.
She got about 20,000 people to disturb the peace in the Capitol. But MANY perhaps MOST of these people drove long distances or flew there to shout “kill the bill!” (health care bill).
If you have money and free time to drive or fly to Washington DC for a temper tantrum, you probably already have health care. SO those who shout “kill the bill” might as well shout “let those who cannot afford health care die!”
That IS the Republican party position. That IS the will of those at the tea parties. Why are they not just honest enough to say so?
Chas
Posted November 5, 2009 at 9:20 pm | Permalink
I have come to the conclusion that people who demean, or make mockery, or publicly disrespect the POTUS should be found guilty of a crime, and punished by at least some sort of fine. Doesnt matter WHO the president is
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what is it about free speech that upsets you ? I will admit you did state it didnt matter who was president,so kudos for that.
BTW, sorry bout the Phillies. I hate the Yankees about as badly as I hate the Cowboys.
Gettin late pleef… fingers prone to typos… so sorry, if you feel a need to snark about a typo…. how typical… hey, maybe it’s a keyboard conspiracy?? ya think??
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Chas
Posted November 5, 2009 at 9:20 pm | Permalink
I have come to the conclusion that people who demean, or make mockery, or publicly disrespect the POTUS should be found guilty of a crime, and punished by at least some sort of fine. Doesnt matter WHO the president is.
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I think this would be a bad idea, Chas. We should be free to criticize our elected leaders. The first amendment to the Constitution guarantees us this right.
I work in TX… I dont think I am allowed to hate the “Cowboys” — unless they are the ones from OkState Univ… LOL
Freebird1971
Posted November 5, 2009 at 9:26 pm | Permalink
“Blue Jay,
I’m going to make this very plain and clear, You are a liar,a coward and a parasite on society. I will stop there unless you would care to dispute my opinion with me face to face.”
I’d say you are very perceptive Freebird, very perceptive indeed.
Actually, your conclusion is just plain obvious to all….you just say it well.
Daniel, criticism is one thing… but much of what we see now, goes FAR beyond criticism… some of it to libel, or slander..
I’ll bet that you have some like-minded individuals in congress that are thinking exactly the same thing Chas. Why stop at just passing the healthcare bill? Why not go gor broke (while you have the easy wins) and pass whatever laws that you want. Anything that demeans and belittles any Democratic public OFFICIAL. Any republican or libertarian public SERVANT would be fair game of course (just to be fair).
I don’t think it would be smart to waste a good crises or a good solid majority.
“Gettin late pleef… fingers prone to typos… so sorry, if you feel a need to snark about a typo…. how typical… hey, maybe it’s a keyboard conspiracy?? ya think??”-Chas
What’s with the self deprication?
I was making fun of my own typo, yours was fine.
Relax.
“The first amendment to the Constitution guarantees us this right.”—Daniel
Daniel is right, that is what the First Amendment IS for.
Chas’s idea has been, and is, prevalent in oppressive, dictatorial societies, where you can be jailed or killed for expressing an opinion.
Well, time to go… gotta make my share of chili(Potluck Chili) for the Annual Church Bazaar on Saturday… Looks like it will be a big event this year… :-)
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Chas
Posted November 5, 2009 at 9:32 pm | Permalink
I work in TX… I dont think I am allowed to hate the “Cowboys” — unless they are the ones from OkState Univ… LOL
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I heard that rooting against Dallas is an offense punishable by being lynched from that new scoreboard,as well has having your status as a Texan revoked,and your family is to be shunned by all true Texans
good night; good luck; god bless —
whatever you perceive god to be….
blessings all….
blessings especially to all of the families and troops stationed at Ft. Hood… not far from me here in TX….
so mote it be!!
When ever a politician lies, they should be fined $10,000 for each offense.
The budget would be balanced in a week.
sounds about right, freebird!!
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Chas
Posted November 5, 2009 at 9:34 pm | Permalink
Daniel, criticism is one thing… but much of what we see now, goes FAR beyond criticism… some of it to libel, or slander.
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That’s the thing about being in the public eye, Chas. It’s almost impossible for a politician, entertainer, or anyone else in the public eye to prove charges of slander or libel against anyone. The standard is higher because almost anything can be written off as satire or parody.
Take the case of The Reverend Jerry Falwell and Larry Flynt. Flynt printed absolutely horrible untruths about Falwell and Falwell’s mother but his right to that form of speech was protected by the first amendment. Same goes for the POTUS…almost anything, save an overt threat of physical violence against the president, is fair game.
Personally, I’m fine with all of this. The first amendment makes it easier for the rest of us to quickly identify the delusional, the unreasonable, and the despicable.
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JimJohnson
Posted November 5, 2009 at 9:39 pm | Permalink
When ever a politician lies, they should be fined $10,000 for each offense.
The budget would be balanced in a week.
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Who would serve as the arbiter of Truth?
AP – updated 10:10 a.m. CT, Thurs., Nov . 5, 2009
WASHINGTON – “You’re afraid your cancer is back, and a health insurance company just turned you down. Under the health care bills in Congress, you could apply for coverage through a new high-risk pool that President Barack Obama promises would immediately start serving patients with pre-existing medical problems. Wait a second. Read the fine print. You may have to be uninsured for six months to qualify.”
Does anyone know what this monstrosity of a bill is going to do to the people of this country.
It isn’t being push this hard and fast to help the people, it’s being done as a power grab.
And to hell with the people….remember the people pushing it aren’t subject to it….just you and I eventually.
I play you people by your own standards “Freebird”.
Cons only do what they can get something out of. I treat them the same.
Said simply, I don’t consort with cons unless I get something out of it.
When I met Hank and Nathan on their grounds and terms I was not there to see them. I was there to meet XXX, farmgrrl, bth, and other interesting posters.
When I held my own meet up, I invited cons to neutral grounds with no terms. Only Nathan showed up. HE took a boatload of farmgrrls chicken and went right back to trashing her on the blog.
When there was a meetup to send Nathan off to Iraq, I was not there for him. I was there because Rage was leaving for Arizona and I would get to meet gster.
I met outlander, GMC and shared a room (it was a big room) with KSGolfnut, I was there to meet the editors, politicalmama, linda and see other old friends again.
I met “Regular”on my own time and terms since he is clearly insane and threatened more than once to kill me and other bloggers.
And lastly I offered to meet Boxlock so that I could meet face to face someone who claimed that allowing my gay friend to marry would diminish his marriage. HE didn’t show up and to this day claims to be the better man for it. Thus I helped him forward to his inevitable irrelevance.
And then there’s you. You and people like you claim a personal audience with God and the authority to speak for same. Well Freebird you may have God on speed dial. But when you called me out to meet you on less than 24 hours notice and then pronounced me a coward when I could not accommodate you? I call that arrogant. And so I answer back with arrogance.
Or rather self assuredness.
I get nothing from meeting you. But you have audience to God and you can’t get ME and it bugs the heck out of you to the point of ongoing obsession?
I’m flattered. But still not interested.
“You may have to be uninsured…” [Boxdumb]
Do you even comprehend the meaning of the word “MAY” and how it differs from the word “SHALL” ??
When will you learn?? Nothing in your post, or the article you quote from says for a FACT that you will need to be uninsured for six months….
How stupid are you really, Box???
I met BlueJay just the other day.
Then I scraped him from the bottom of my shoe and moved on.
How does the chili taste in Belton?
Where you might upstart “Freebird”?
By your own standards, boxlock is a coward. Say so.
I’ve never met a con who wasn’t a hypocrite. Wanna be the first?
But when you called me out to meet you on less than 24 hours notice and then pronounced me a coward when I could not accommodate you? I call that arrogant. And so I answer back with arrogance.
You conveniently overlook the fact that I gave you a chance with a weeks to notice to meet me for breakfast but you chose the cowards way out by ignoring it. So thank you for proving my opinion of you once again,liar,coward parasite and a waste of human flesh.
When you post the truth it is not arrogance.
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BlueJay
Posted November 5, 2009 at 9:55 pm | Permalink
Where you might upstart “Freebird”?
By your own standards, boxlock is a coward. Say so.
I’ve never met a con who wasn’t a hypocrite. Wanna be the first?
Breakfast Sunday 10 at dons if you are man enough
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A .223-caliber, gas-operated, clip-fed assault rifle, first used by U.S. troops during the Vietnam War.
Duh, everyone knows a magazine is read, not fed!
Always carry a few extra clips.
You and people like you claim a personal audience with God and the authority to speak for same
Show me where I posted anything like that. I say it is more of your lies.
Ever hear of a banana clip? I’ve used them, you can refer to them as magazines, but clips works just as well, especially if you’re in a hurry.
You should take up the problem of con credibility on this forum with “Regular” Freebird. I’ll not vet you. I don’t get anything out of lending you credibility.
Freebird: I took your recommendation and downloaded the God and Guns CD. Just finished listening. It is awesome. Southern Ways sound like the early stuff and it’s not even the best track. 5 stars!
Heh.
Meet outlander Freebird. HE’S been posting here as long as I have.
Of course, he did tell me that he is not a resident of this world but “the next’.
When you’re in the bunker and you tell your buddy “pass me another magazine”, you might get last months copy of playboy, tell him pass me another clip, you’ll get your ammo!”
I don’t get anything out of lending you credibility.
So you aren’t man enough to meet just as I thought.
the only credibility you have here is in you own mind. Credible people back up what they say so by definition that excludes you
“By your own standards, boxlock is a coward. Say so.”
I set ‘junior’ up and ‘punked’ him intentionally. I simply got sick and tired of his mouth and immaturity, repeatedly challenging to meet in a parking lot in the middle of winter to defend some foul mouthed les/bian he thought he could impress.
What a dolt.
Regular
Posted November 5, 2009 at 9:54 pm | Permalink
How does the chili taste in Belton?
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I wouldnt know… never been there…
You and people like you claim a personal audience with God and the authority to speak for same
Show me where I posted anything like that. I say it is more of your lies
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Put up or shut up Blue Jay.
Yap yap Freebird.
Start by cleaning your OWN house.
By your own standards, boxlock20 is a coward. Second call for you to say so. Second call also to prove to me, just me, that all cons are not hypocrites.
Blue Jay
I’ll not vet you. I don’t get anything out of lending you credibility
And a word of advice Free, for you to take or leave. Ignore BlueJay. He’s deluded, but smart enough to be an aggravation. Rise above.
Box, we have heard your sorry a** tale many times… You agreed to a meet-up… THEN, you come back to the Blog, and tell everybody you never intended to honor the meet-up… Ya know, whatever you think your Reason was… It still makes you a blatant LIAR…. Also makes for a convenient excuse for not showing up… Box, you simply cannot be believed… too many lies… too many distortions…. Go back under your private, personal troll bridge…
BlueJay
Posted November 5, 2009 at 10:12 pm | Permalink
Yap yap Freebird.
Start by cleaning your OWN house
My house is clean. No problems there, when are you going to back up your assertation that I have God on speed dial?
If you want to come gunnin for the Phantom, best to come ‘locked and loaded’.
outlander
Posted November 5, 2009 at 10:14 pm | Permalink
And a word of advice Free, for you to take or leave. Ignore BlueJay. He’s deluded, but smart enough to be an aggravation. Rise above
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You are right but you know rising above his level aint that hard
Freebird I don’t seek reflection in your eyes. I also don’t follow you around. Your purpose here is to be interesting by biting my ankles?
That’s old hat for me.
How are ya Phant?
More importantly, how is that granddaughter?
I’m not familiar with military ascendancy.
The shooter at Fort Hood was a Major? He had to have had some time to attain that rank.
I guess these are the sort of things that happen when military adventurism is foreign policy like during the bush empi er administration.
bush is gone but his legacy lives on.
Pelosi proves to be a liar….again…
Pelosi Breaks Pledge to Put Final Health Care Bill Online for 72 Hours Before Vote
Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office tells THE WEEKLY STANDARD that the speaker will not allow the final language of the health care to be posted online for 72 hours before bringing the bill to a vote on the House floor, despite her September 24 statement that she was “absolutely” committed to doing so.
House members are still negotiating important issues in the bill–whether it will provide taxpayer-funding for abortions, for example. Pelosi is pushing for a Saturday House vote, and a number of big changes will be introduced, likely less than 24 hours before the vote takes place (if in fact it does). The Rules Committee hasn’t yet released its resolution, or rule, that must be passed before the bill can move from committee to the floor. The rule will set the terms of debate and determine what amendments are in order.
It seems likely that the rule will allow very few, if any, up-or-down votes on amendments on the House floor. Rather, the rule will include a series of amendments that will all be adopted at once if the rule passes.
On September 24, Speaker Nancy Pelosi told THE WEEKLY STANDARD that she was “absolutely” committed to putting the text of the final House bill online for 72 hours before the House votes:
TWS: Madam Speaker, do you support the measure to put the final House bill online for 72 hours before it’s voted on at the very end?
PELOSI: Absolutely. Without question.
But tonight, when asked if Speaker Pelosi will leave the bill online for 72 hours after we see what’s in the rule, Pelosi spokesman Brendan Daly replied in an email: “No; [the] pledge was to have manager’s amendment online for 72 hours, and we will do that.”
What a POS
“guess these are the sort of things that happen when military adventurism is foreign policy like during the bush empi er administration.”
BUSH BUSH BUAH BUAH BUS CON CON CON CON
Sounds like a broken record.. Oh wait it is. What a bunch of schitt.
littlejohn — what an interesting nic… the “littlejohn” that was a comrade of Robin Hood, was in the charity of “robbing from the rich, to give to the poor”.
The WEBlog littlejohn would have appoplexy over such an adventurous mentor as Robin Hood… How curious that the Blog L-J uses such a nic…. most curious….
Just say that the poor and uninsured should suffer and die littlejohn. Instead of attacking plans to address that?
There is a large and growing population of suffering folks in this country. Markets and business did that. I place my faith in Government to address it. The GOP plan, as another thread tells, is only for MORE suffering.
Heh.
Maybe “littlejohn” will help “Regular” move his car off his lawn.
So much for local Government getting that done. The complaint is weeks old now.
Chas-
I don;t give a schitt what you think of my chosen nic. I picked it for my own reasons. You and BlueJay are the only ones that give a damn about that anyway. I thought you were leaving for the night? WHy don;t you
I’ve been out.
When was the Ft. Hood shooter’s condition upgraded to “alive?”
Does Regular need some help?
Funny, I didn;t see him ask for any.
“MonkeyHawk”
Man I don;t know. I was gone for most of the evening. The shooter was dead, and they had two others in custody. Now, the shooter is alive, and did it all by himself.
“Just say that the poor and uninsured should suffer and die littlejohn”
Why would I ever do that?
Monkey, it’s been a couple hours now, when the Ft. Hood guys said the shooter was not dead… As for the first two guys detained, they were interviewed and released… They had a third one detained… also interviewed and released… They are saying it was only one shooter…
littlejohn
Posted November 5, 2009 at 11:14 pm | Permalink
“Just say that the poor and uninsured should suffer and die littlejohn”
Why would I ever do that?
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You say that evey day… not in those exact words… but you say it… Sorry for you, dude…
Chas-
sorry for your dude.
Oh sorry, dude…..my caps lock must have stuck.
Yeah, that’s it.
“The eastbound lanes of Kellogg over Armour and under Rock Road opened with little fanfare after the Wednesday morning rush hour, a police car and a couple of construction trucks leading the way”
http://www.kansas.com
Now, thats what those shovel ready jobs can get accomplished!! Just couldnt happen until Obama became President…
(sarcasm/ off) LOL
Wonder if ol’ Reg ever found out how that chili tastes in Belton(?) — wherever that is… There is a Belton, MO up near Kansas City, I think, on U. S. 71 South…
If the GOP keeps this up they can hold their 2012 National Convention at Intrust Arena.
Blogmonitor and Boxlock have seen several of us LIBs talk guns many times here–Phantom, CF2K, and I.
While I admit I’m not as knowledgeable about all guns as Boxlock and Anti (probably) are, we LIBs are not all gun-grabbers.
Clinton banned “assault weapons” more than a decade ago and it was a complete waste of time that did nothing but reinforce con worries that Dems were “going to talk our guns away.”
Since then, Dems have wisely backed away from any more gun control measures. It’s just not on the agenda. Believe me, some of the staunchest NRA types gun nuts I’ve met on-line are posting at DemocraticUnderground and they’re regulars there.
Kansas City chili is served only at Dixon’s in Independence.
They serve it with or without beans, plenty of vinegar on the tables. Cheese and chopped onions optional.
But they impose a “Ketchup Fine.”
Pretty good stuff. Made famous when President Truman returned to KC and made a bee-line to one of the (then) many Dixon’s parlors. He asked for a beer but they didn’t have a license so a Secret Service agent was dispatched to bring a bottle of Bud to the Prez.
I’ve heard Cincinnati is America’s most chili-obsessed city.
Texans, of course, don’t allow beans within the zip code of a bowl of chili. An ground beef instead of chunks are considered déclassé. (And let me tell ya, when you’re déclassé in Texas, you’re déclassé.”)
There’s a New Mexico chili parlor near I-40 that’s pretty good. It’s subtle, more Navajo that Tex-or-Mex. Soupier than most people consider chili, but full of flavor. And the Navajo flat bread sops up the juices.
Everywhere else it’s pretty much generic chili. It’s not that Wendy’s stuff is all that bad when you need a chili fix, but it’s ordinary. It’s better than Hormel’s but not by much.
Too many individuals turn chili into a race for whose is the hottest. That’s not chili, that’s a colon-cleansing.
Don’t get me started on chili.
To summarize, the anti-gun stereotype by Cons of Libs was never really right and is even wrong-er now.
It’s part of the “Cons are more manly than Lib girly-men” illusion Cons love to believe.
That’s never been right. The miners and the union-men that faced down the Pinkertons and the paid thugs of the moneyed class knew who their enemies were.
Today’s working class is so deluded by Rush O’Hannity, shills for the moneyed class, that they’re mad as hell at the only people who are trying to help them.
“CapnAmerica” –
I think the gun issue is a microcosm of CONspeak.
I’ve posted many time my agnosticism regarding concealed carry, registration, and other 2nd Amendment provisions.
And any time I run afoul of the NRA I get attacks as a “gun-grabber.” And worse.
When a WE Blog thread gets off on a gun tangent I’m astounded at the obsessive attitude some CONs display. It always seems to veer to Freudian revelations that are, to put it mildly, just a bit screwball.
Some people do model trains. Some people get hooked on Beanie Babies. Some people have this gun thing. I guess everyone has a hobby of some sort. But some of ‘em are just… odd.
MHawk–
I lived in Laredo, Texas in 1980.
I remember having fajitas at a carne asada for the first time and thinking, “this could really go over big up north.”
Who knew that every taco shop from the Rio Grande to the Yukon Territories would soon be sporting fajitas as well as the anatomical impossibility of “pork fajitas” as well as “chicken fajitas.”
Oh, well . . . that’s why they call it a melting pot.
Correct on the gun fetish, MH.
I like guns. I collect guns. I’m gonna get more guns.
But in no way am I defined by my guns . . . or kept free by my guns . . . or more of man because I have guns . . . or more manly than somebody who doesn’t like guns . . . or preparing for some kind of final show down or societal collapse with my guns.
I mean, they’re ultimately just tools, like a garden rake. Get a grip.
Where the teabaggers went after the rally –
http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/
“Some people do model trains. Some people get hooked on Beanie Babies. Some people have this gun thing. I guess everyone has a hobby of some sort. But some of ‘em are just… odd.”—Monkey
Monkey,
No one is trying to ban, restrict or take away your model trains, or Beanie Babies….the gun banners ARE constantly trying to do so with with firearms. Something that is guaranteed as a RIGHT to own and bare in our Constitution.
And it goes far far beyond what you seem to think is “odd” about an obsession with, and protecting that right to arms. It has to do with our continued ongoing freedom, and our elected leaders respect for the form of government the founders established which has worked better than any other form of government in the history of the world.
Protecting the 2nd Amendment is protecting the entire Constitution…..now, do you call that “odd”?
“Today’s working class is so deluded by Rush O’Hannity, shills for the moneyed class, that they’re mad as hell at the only people who are trying to help them.”–Capn
They don’t want your help Capn., get over it.
Why do you think you can decide for them?
My comments this morning Capn and Monkey are expressed with all due respect for your opinions, just don’t try and control mine.
“Box, we have heard your sorry a** tale many times… You agreed to a meet-up… THEN, you come back to the Blog, and tell everybody you never intended to honor the meet-up…”–the faux and lying preacher Chas
Hey faux preacher, I couldn’t care less what such a heretic thinks!
Junior has a mouth bigger than his brain and a maturity level of a child. He sits at his keyboard being abusively critical of people and challenged repeatedly to meet-up in-spite of my informing him I had no desire to meet him as it offered absolutely nothing of interest for me. Then he claims he wins because I am a coward.
No, I don’t have to honor that kind of idiocy so I did set him up. I enjoyed letting him set his own trap and waste his worthless time standing in the cold.
I’d do it again as well.
Why don’t you grow up, you’re little better and maybe worse.
“Boxlock20″ –
Don’t be so alarmist.
Last time I read the 2nd Amendment it guaranteed a “well-regulated militia.”
I have no problem with that.
But it’s not the constitutional issue I was addressing.
It’s the fetishist whipsongs about this gun or that gun that astound me any time on WE Blog the gun issue comes up.
If 2nd Amendment fanatics were as adamant about the “…equal protection under the law” amendment, there’s be a little more credibility.
And I don’t condemn or oppose WE Blog CONs’ impassioned talks about this Glock or that Baretta. I just find it an odd obsession.
“donndublin” asks –
“How did all 6100 fans park in those 827 spaces.”
I think all the tea-partiers showed up in clown cars.
“And I don’t condemn or oppose WE Blog CONs’ impassioned talks about this Glock or that Baretta. I just find it an odd obsession.”—Monkey
And you are perfectly entitled to “find” it so.
Just don’t try and impose those ‘findings’ on the rest of us, or restrict our right to arms.
And by the way Monkey, it has already been established that the right to arms is an individual right, not simply a collective right to a militia having arms.
“…the right of the people (not restricted to a militia) to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
They don’t call him “bawks” for nothing. Skitter back up the church steps grampy. Hope we don’t bang down the door coming after ya.
“They don’t call him “bawks” for nothing.”–Junior
And the don’t call you a parasite and a ‘immature mouth’ for nothing either BlueJay.
And what, “Boxlock20,” did all that talk about “…a well-regulated militia” mean? Just filler thrown in to make the paragraph longer?
The Supreme Court has also gone on record preserving a woman’s right to abortion.
If 2nd Amendment fetishists would embrace that SCOTUS decision with comparable passion as the recent “individual right” case, you’d have a modicum of credibility.
And — how many times to I have to tell you? –
my comment isn’t about the constitutionality. It’s about the circle jerk around the “the Winchester 94 with 30 round clips, flash suppressor, automatic lever action, and a bayonet, in 50 BMG” which gun nuts immediately recognized as an inside joke.
I think that’s odd.
“And — how many times to I have to tell you? –
my comment isn’t about the constitutionality. It’s about the circle jerk around the “the Winchester 94 with 30 round clips, flash suppressor, automatic lever action, and a bayonet, in 50 BMG” which gun nuts immediately recognized as an inside joke.
I think that’s odd.”–Monkey
And most of the gun banners are so ignorant they would never realize the absurdity of that weapons description, yet they feel qualified to manage others right to arms.
A well regulated militia is important, and has a right to arms as well as the PEOPLE.
Remember, the milita was the populous as a whole. And it was quite fresh in their minds who they had fought for their independence….an oppressive government.