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In another hour at about 7 AM this Monday morning, the Full Hunter Moon will be settling down towards the western horizon … over the beautiful Ninnescah River valley as it flows from its source out in Pratt County eastward towards Wichita and then southeast. As the full moon settles in the west, the Monday morning Sun will rise in the east over another busy Kansas day.
Good morning JW.
“Lies Chiropractor Tell” –
http://www.journalchiroed.com/2003/JCEFall2003Sikorski.pdf
Written by two, ahem, chiropractors.
Gee, this looks like the kind of blog where they believe in free speech and don’t require a litmus test to post.
This may be a bar room brawl sometimes, but at least you can say what’s on your mind.
XXX, that’s what you get to do when you set up your own blog. If you don’t care for those parameters, don’t blog there.
BTW, there IS a litmus test here. If you’re a con, you get to bash on those with more liberal world views with impunity.
In one of the the biggest corporate failures in US history, CIT made its filing in the New York bankruptcy court yesterday, after a debt-exchange offer to bondholders failed. CIT said most of its bondholders have agreed a prepackaged reorganisation plan which will reduce total debt by $10bn (£6.1bn) while allowing the company to continue to do business.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/nov/02/cit-group-us-bankruptcy
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That gurgling sound is your tax dollars pouring down the bottomless rathole.
“XXX” and the CONs blubber like a high school sophomore who’s not allowed to sit at the Cool Kids’ table.
“Blaidd_Drwg69″ notes –
“…there IS a litmus test here. If you’re a con, you get to bash on those with more liberal world views with impunity.”
And you can get threatened by ol’ “Regular” to be frog-marched into an empty field so he can put a bullet in your skull.
Blaidd_Drwg69
Posted November 2, 2009 at 7:00 am | Permalink
XXX, that’s what you get to do when you set up your own blog. If you don’t care for those parameters, don’t blog there.
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Or maybe you just get another episode of “the furry fisters”.
OBAMA LIFTS HIV IMMIGRATION BAN
By Jon Feere, November 1, 2009
President Obama has announced the elimination of immigration provisions which ban entry of immigrants with HIV in a move that will undoubtedly increase HIV infection cases in the United States. The background to this change and the Bush Administration’s role was discussed in an earlier Center for Immigration blog.
The Obama Administration’s new rule will eliminate a clause in the Immigration & Nationality Act (INA) that denies admission to those with HIV. In 1993, a clause specifically designed to reduce the spread HIV/AIDS into the United States was added to the INA; it was passed by the Senate with a vote of 76 to 23. It reads:
“Any alien who is determined (in accordance with regulations prescribed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services) to have a communicable disease of public health significance, which shall include infection with the etiologic agent for acquired immune deficiency syndrome…is inadmissible.” (8 USCS § 1182)
It is the responsibility of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to determine whether a disease qualifies as a “communicable disease of public health significance.” By making this change, President Obama has declared that HIV is no longer a communicable disease of public health significance. Politics, it seems, has triumphed over public health.
Currently, HHS lists the following eight diseases as “communicable diseases of public health significance”: Tuberculosis, Leprosy, Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV), Syphilis, Chancroid, Gonorrhea, Granuloma Inguinale, and Lymphogranuloma Venereum. After the first two on the list, the remainder are all sexually transmitted diseases. Of those, HIV/AIDS is the most deadly; about 16,000 people die of AIDS in the U.S. every year while approximately 56,000 people become newly infected with HIV every year. At the end of 2003, an estimated 1,039,000 to 1,185,000 persons in the United States were living with HIV, with 24 to 27 percent undiagnosed and unaware of their infection. The epidemic is growing most rapidly among minority populations and is a leading killer of African-American males ages 25 to 44. In 2006, the overall rate of HIV diagnosis was at least 18.5 per 100,000. It is likely that this rate will increase as a result of the Obama Administration’s new rule.
But the president did not address this possible fallout. Instead, he trivialized this concern and supplanted science with politics, saying:
“Twenty-two years ago, in a decision rooted in fear rather than fact, the United States instituted a travel ban on entry into the country for people living with HIV/AIDS. Now, we talk about reducing the stigma of this disease — yet we’ve treated a visitor living with it as a threat. We lead the world when it comes to helping stem the AIDS pandemic — yet we are one of only a dozen countries that still bar people from HIV from entering our own country.
“If we want to be the global leader in combating HIV/AIDS, we need to act like it. And that’s why, on Monday my administration will publish a final rule that eliminates the travel ban effective just after the New Year. Congress and President Bush began this process last year, and they ought to be commended for it. We are finishing the job. It’s a step that will encourage people to get tested and get treatment, it’s a step that will keep families together, and it’s a step that will save lives.”
A number of questions should be asked. How many immigrants with HIV will enter the United States as a result of this policy change? How many new HIV infections will result? What will this cost U.S. taxpayers in medical care? Why is the United States maintaining the travel ban on curable, less-deadly diseases, but opening the door to HIV, if not for political reasons? Will syphilis, gonorrhea, and the other STDs be dropped from the travel ban, and if so, what will this do for infection rates and health care costs?
As I noted in the earlier blog, the United States reportedly has the highest prevalence of HIV infection of any developed country. The Obama Administration’s policy change may ensure that the United States keeps that title. In the least, it will reduce the ability of our immigration system to protect Americans from communicable disease.
“Politico” cuts-and-posts –
“…that will undoubtedly increase HIV infection cases in the United States….”
“Undoubtedly,” huh?
Got this week’s lottery numbers, too?
You CONs are so good at predicting stuff, except you’re never right.
Here it is Monkey >>>>
“On November 2nd, the Day of the Dead (Dia de los Muertos) is a holiday observed in Mexico and the United States, focusing on the remembrance of family and friends who have died. Traditions include creating altars to the deceased using their favorite foods, sugar skulls, and marigolds, as well as visiting their graves with these gifts.”
[C2CAM]
Some of you were discussing this the other day… Today is the day…. :-))
Monday brilliance from Monkey”boy”
In reference to letting people into the U.S. who have HIV- ““…that will undoubtedly increase HIV infection cases in the United States….”
“Undoubtedly,” huh?
Got this week’s lottery numbers, too?”
Ummm, Monkey, if you let people in who have HIV you have just increased the number people who have HIV. That’s an increase. Dude.
Monkeyhawk
Posted November 2, 2009 at 7:09 am | Permalink
“XXX” and the CONs blubber like a high school sophomore who’s not allowed to sit at the Cool Kids’ table.
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Good morning, Monk.
As usual, you just totally missed the point.
Monkey misses the point because he wants to be one of the “Cool Kids”.
Yesterday’s headline about Goldman Sachs betting against a housing bubble it helped to create. And it just flies by…
Corruption is better left and easier to deal with it when you’re able to blame one side or the other.
“Chas” –
Okay. Dia de los Muertos is the 2nd of November. I had it confused with All Saints’ Day, November 1. November 2nd is also All Souls’ Day.
Freebird,
Just thought of something, I didn’t make clear which Kings X I was referring to, I was referring to Kings X- Toc’s on Harry.
That still a go for Wednesday at 9:30 a.m.?
I can go to the other Kings X, if it’s not convenient, just not familiar with their hours of operation or menu.
CIT Files Bankruptcy, and Retailers Get Nervous
cont’d at:
Fox News
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Not good…
President Clinton honored with statute
“http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_re_eu/eu_kosovo_bill_clinton’
I don;t know, should he have gotten the Nobel Peace Prize, or should he be condemned for getting us into a war in which we had no interest at risk?
Some of ya’all want to follow the world intheir economic models. perhaps you should follow this:
” for the 10th year in a row, the average corporate tax rate world-wide has fallen. Now it rests at 25.5%. But that’s the average. This means that some countries have a corporate tax rate higher than 25.5% and some less. So … where is the United States? Well, we’re stuck. Stuck at 40% .. where we’ve been for quite some time. Only one country has a higher corporate tax rate than the United States; Japan”
Note the “Only one country has a higher corporate tax rate than the United States; Japan”
Read it carefully. Then think about it for awhile.
Regular
Posted November 2, 2009 at 8:57 am | Permalink
Freebird,
Just thought of something, I didn’t make clear which Kings X I was referring to, I was referring to Kings X- Toc’s on Harry.
That still a go for Wednesday at 9:30 a.m.?
I can go to the other Kings X, if it’s not convenient, just not familiar with their hours of operation or menu.
no problem on harry
“CIT Files Bankruptcy, and Retailers Get Nervous”
How much bailout money did we loan to CIT?
•Hud
Posted November 2, 2009 at 9:21 am
“CIT Files Bankruptcy, and Retailers Get Nervous”
How much bailout money did we loan to CIT?
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Hud,
From that same link, looks to be about 2.3 billion dollars.
Personally, I dont remember hearing about any bailout money for CIT… But if they got any, they should pay it back, cause it obviously didnt work… :-))
Well, then, CIT should have to pay back their bailout money, if that’s what they got…
The only problem with that Charles is when you take stock to back a loan, as the government did, and the institution goes bankrupt, you end up at the tail end of the line, SOL on getting any appreciable, if any, of your money back. Drip, drip, gurgle, gurgle, loan down the drain, the same as the savings of most of us who had IRAs, etc.
But don’t get me started…
Dennis
The only problem with that Charles is when you take stock to back a loan, as the government did, and the institution goes bankrupt, you end up at the tail end of the line, SOL on getting any appreciable, if any, of your money back. Drip, drip, gurgle, gurgle, loan down the drain, the same as the savings of most of us who had IRAs, etc.
But don’t get me started…
Dennis
Sorry about the double post. Hit the wrong key.
I meant to add, are you all reading the Goldman Sachs stories? About how they bought up all the stinky mortgages, bundled them into bonds, then the bond people rated them AAA, then GS opened off-shore accounts to hide them and are now in the process of foreclosing? Shabby, shabby practices. In other words, GS helped set up a shaky housing market, and is now making money bleeping over the people whose loans they hold. East Coast bankers scum, all of them.
Dennis
Toldja so.
Thanks Dennis!!
More government insurance, more people on Medicre-
Yeah, that will fix it
“Annual Medicare Fraud: $60 Billion; Annual Profits of Top Ten Insurance Companies: $8 billion
As 60 Minutes reported last week, Medicare fraud is rampant and has now replaced the cocaine (ahem) business as the major criminal activity in South Florida. Both 60 Minutes and the Washington Post report that Medicare fraud now costs American taxpayers roughly $60 billion a year. That may sound like a lot of money, but surely it pales next to the extraordinary profits of private insurance companies, right?
Well, let’s see…. Last year, the profits of the ten largest insurance companies in America were just over $8 billion — combined. No single insurance company made even five percent of what Medicare reportedly loses in fraud.”
Looks like we should be expending some effort to stop that Medicare Fraud… which, I dont see as a Medicare problem… but rather a problem with the fraud perpetrators… eh??
Example:
If some Dr. is giving placebo injections to patients, and billing Medicare for the real thing, the problem isnt Medicare… it’s the Dr. committing the Fraudulent act…
“Well, let’s see…. Last year, the profits of the ten largest insurance companies in America were just over $8 billion — combined. No single insurance company made even five percent of what Medicare reportedly loses in fraud.” [L-J]
So, if you are taking ALL of the Medicare Fraud bundled together… You should also take the profits of ALL of the insurance companies for some sort of accurate comparison…
Otherwise it is basically an apples/oranges comparison…
Bank of America will be bankrupt in 2010.
Que laughing…
Chas-
I am on record for medicare cheats being penalized, even to the point of jailtime and or permananent loss of liscence to practice medicine. The point being, there should be plenty of money available, at least 60 billion dollars, to help pay for those who cannot (notice I did not say will not) help themselves.
At the very least, if Medicare increases, given the obvious ability to cheat the system, what do you think will happen to the amount of money stolen?
medicare is already broke.
Yes Chas, like Bank Robbers – banks aren’t the problem, the robbers are.
However, most of the fixes for the security of the bank come on the bank side and some come from the systemizing of security through their interactives.
I wonder what the comparison would be of the number of fraudulent claims filed against insurance companies vs. the number of fraudulent claims filed against Medicare??
just wondering…
Bankers love bombs.
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE59S4DL20091029
Today, the robbers are the bankers.
Your allegiance is duly noted.
Nice thought, Reg… But Medicare isnt exactly a bank… IF the money is being stolen from Medicare by the perpetrators(read medical practitioners) — Medicare is only doing their JOB… paying on claims filed… the same as any other insurance company…
What do you propose?? Infiltrate medical practitioners with Medicare “secret agents” to monitor the claims filed??
Why do people insist on blaming Medicare for fraudulent claims?? The blame should be directed toward the medical practitioners… and punished with either jail time, loss of license… preferrably both…
“wonder what the comparison would be of the number of fraudulent claims filed against insurance companies vs. the number of fraudulent claims filed against Medicare”
Actually, a good question. I don;t really know, and don;t really have time this morning to try and dig it out.
Thanks L-J … I dont either… today… just thought it was an appropriate question, in light of the discussion… Have a good day!
The single most egregious perpetrators of Medicare fraud are Chiropractors.
Put ‘em in jail and put ‘em out of business.
Why do people insist on blaming Medicare for fraudulent claims?? The blame should be directed toward the medical practitioners… and punished with either jail time, loss of license… preferrably both…
Well, I imagine like fraudulent insurance claims to private providers that fraud in Medicare is similar.
Insurance fraud is rampant in all aspects.
My sister backed up into a car from a parking slot at Quick Trip. There was no visible damage to the old style pickup truck and my sister’s small compact vehicle had a ding about the size of a quarter.
The people who got hit claimed injury to the tune of $60,000.00.
If you’ve ever seen my sister drive, she is quite slow and never does any jack-rabbit starts or stops.
I’ve known people to brag about their settlements in car crashes and then with a big smile go off on a buying spree or a vacation where they can frolic with no visible impairment.
I don’t know the health care insurance industry that well, but I imagine similar billing practices from suppliers to customers to pharmacists to providers is out there needing to be investigated.
donndublin,
Thank you for the link that supports AGW science.
“It’s the long-term trend that counts, which is continuing and inexorable.”
. . .
Vicky Pope, head of climate change advice at the Met Office, said: “It isn’t helpful to anybody to exaggerate the situation. It’s scary enough as it is.” “
Monkeyhawk
Posted November 2, 2009 at 10:19 am | Permalink
The single most egregious perpetrators of Medicare fraud are Chiropractors.
Put ‘em in jail and put ‘em out of business.
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Are you that hateful towards chiropractors jsut because Hnank’s wife is one, or did some chiropractor do you harm?
Regular aka Republican posted November 2, 2009 at 10:19 am
If you’ve ever seen my sister drive, she is quite slow and never does any jack-rabbit starts or stops.
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And she parks on the front lawn, instead of the driveway?
More hateful rhetoric from cosmos…
McDonnell Could Lead GOP ‘Landslide’ in Virginia Race
Fox News
With Republican Bob McDonnell holding a wide lead over Democrat Creigh Deeds in the Virginia race for governor, the former state attorney general could be at the fore of a GOP takeover on Election Day.
“”It takes no great leap of faith to understand that people who don’t pay taxes in the first place welcome the prospect of increasing the burden on those who do — especially if the ‘taking’ classes correctly expect to be the beneficiaries. So, too, those whose ‘poverty level’ exempts them from taxes correctly see the mediocre care under a nationalized health system as better than the longer waits and ER dependency they now experience, especially if someone else is paying the freight. What the average American may regard as inferior care and service is seen as an improvement by those who live at least partly off government redistribution programs. This constituency cares not a whit for the increased costs to taxpayers and future generations of taxpayers; they don’t pay taxes, so it’s not their problem. Nor do they care about the prospect of reduced overall care quality and availability; they see it as an improvement on what they experience now. Most of all, they have no fear of the vastly increased power a socialized medicine program would give the bureaucracy through control of a major portion of the American economy. They see the government as the main source of sustenance and problem-solving in their own lives — so the bigger, the better.” –columnist Richard Weitz”
“”It takes no great leap of faith to understand that people who don’t pay taxes in the first place welcome the prospect of increasing the burden on those who do — especially if the ‘taking’ classes correctly expect to be the beneficiaries. So, too, those whose ‘poverty level’ exempts them from taxes correctly see the mediocre care under a nationalized health system as better than the longer waits and ER dependency they now experience, especially if someone else is paying the freight. What the average American may regard as inferior care and service is seen as an improvement by those who live at least partly off government redistribution programs. This constituency cares not a whit for the increased costs to taxpayers and future generations of taxpayers; they don’t pay taxes, so it’s not their problem. Nor do they care about the prospect of reduced overall care quality and availability; they see it as an improvement on what they experience now. Most of all, they have no fear of the vastly increased power a socialized medicine program would give the bureaucracy through control of a major portion of the American economy. They see the government as the main source of sustenance and problem-solving in their own lives — so the bigger, the better.” –columnist Richard Weitz”
Some people lack the small amount of driving skill required to park on a driveway?
I’m not totally sure about Chiropractors charging/billing insurance companies, or Medicare… But I know the one I go to on Fridays provides me with a really good adjustment every Friday, and makes the weekends go a lot more smoothely…. And it is less than $30… The local massage therapist(not billable to insurance) costs almost twice as much… I’d rather pay the $30 than the $55 at the massage place…
Now, if we had a YMCA in this town, I might consider the massage therapist… but we dont… so Chiro Dr. is reasonable…
just sayin…
“Hardly a negative word has been uttered in the mainstream media this
week about President Obama and the shortage of swine flu vaccine shots,
despite assurances from his administration in September that an “ample
supply” would be available by “mid-October.”
But five years ago when it was George W. Bush in the White House and
sufficient supplies of flu vaccine were not available in a timely
manner, folks in the media were jumping all over the administration.
Earlier today, a friend pointed me to a bunch of examples of such
coverage, including these two:
“While many Americans search in vain for flu shots, members and
employees of Congress are able to obtain them quickly and at no charge
from the Capitol’s attending physician, who has urged all 535 lawmakers
to get the vaccines even if they are young and healthy… But people of
all ages who are credentialed to work in the Capitol can get a shot by
saying they meet the guidelines, with no further questions asked… The
practice appears to directly contravene the instruction being given by
the government’s executive branch.” — Charles Babington and David
Brown, The Washington Post, Oct. 20, 2004.
“Yesterday, on the way from St. Petersburg to New Port Richey, the
presidential entourage stopped at the Paradise Restaurant in the little
town of Safety Harbor, where the president and his brother posed for
pictures and were served coffee and baklava. While in the restaurant, a
member of the press pool shouted out a question to the president: ‘Are
you accountable for the flu vaccine shortage?’ Bush ignored the
question. And reporters were hustled out of the restaurant.” — Dan
Froomkin’s White House Briefing Column, Oct. 20, 2004.”
Many links to Bush Vaccine Shortage = Bad
can be found here:
http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/2004_flu_vaccine_shortage#Political_Repre
cussions
Obama Vaccine Shortage = ?
[crickets chirping]
Stayed up late last night watching the 1983 version of “V”. So I’m cranky. Just a heads-up.
Teacher called 911 as day care owner left
Read more: http://www.kansas.com/news/featured/story/1037080.html#ixzz0VilWO3Nl
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Man, that was a tough choice, but she did the right thing.
I absolutely believe that until the republican party drops the Religious Right extremists,
the party is going to continue to fail.
Republicans can talk the talk all they want about “inclusiveness”, but I know from the rallies
and caucus(s) I attended – nearly everyone present was white. Not saying republicans have to
give up their religious beliefs, just don’t wear them pasted to their foreheads in and at every
political event and vote. We have serious issues facing this nation – some say we are the most
critical juncture in American History. By sticking our collective heads in the sand, and refusing to recognize the face of America has already changed, republicans are just spinning their wheels.
Not saying I agree/disagree with Scozzafava’s position on the three items listed below. Only that we need to think about what the republican platform priorities should be – today.
“But in New York’s rural 23rd Congressional District, the message was
clear early: Scozzafava was too moderate; some even used the dreaded “L”
word — liberal. Her endorsement of Democrat Bill Owens over
Conservative Doug Hoffman only reinforced that perception — even her
former campaign spokesman, Matt Burns, said it was a mistake and urged
Republicans to back Hoffman.
During the campaign she failed to connect with voters, party officials
or, perhaps most important, campaign donors, largely because of her
support for abortion rights, same-sex marriage and union rights. That
opened the door for Hoffman, who took every opportunity to remind people
that Scozzafava was not the kind of Republican they wanted representing
their interests in a Democratic-led Congress.”
Reporting from Washington – Among some libertarians and conservatives,
the most troubling aspect of the pending healthcare reform bills is the
prospect of a federal requirement that Americans buy insurance.
“What next? Can Congress order you to buy spinach?” asked Roger Pilon,
director of constitutional studies at the Cato Institute.
He and other defenders of limited federal power foresee a constitutional
challenge to the mandate to buy insurance based on the claim that
Congress’ power to regulate commerce does not extend to forcing citizens
to buy a commercial product.
“I think the individual mandate will be challenged. And it will be a
close call,” Pilon said.
In recent weeks, the debate over how to bring about affordable health
coverage for all has overshadowed the novelty of a federal requirement
to purchase insurance. When the Clinton administration considered such a
plan in 1994, the Congressional Budget Office said it “would be an
unprecedented form of federal action. . . . The government has never
required people to buy any good or service as a condition of lawful
residence in the United States.”
http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-na-mandate1-2009nov01,0,489576
8.story
Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah, who has served in the Senate for 33
years and is a longtime member of the Judiciary Committee, told
CNSNews.com that he does not believe the Democrats’ health-care reform
plan is constitutionally justifiable, noting that if the federal
government can force Americans to buy health insurance “then there is
literally nothing the federal government can’t force us to do.”
Both the House and Senate versions of the health-care reform plan would
force all individuals who are citizens or legal residents of the United
States to buy health insurance. President Obama has endorsed this
provision.
Hatch said if the federal government starts ordering Americans to
purchase specific products without being able to plausibly justify that
mandate through the Commerce Clause of the Constitution which empowers
Congress to regulate interstate commerce, it will mean “we’ve lost our
freedom, and that means the federal government can do anything it wants
to do to us.”
“littlejohn” asks –
“Are you that hateful towards chiropractors jsut because Hnank’s wife is one, or did some chiropractor do you harm?”
Fair question.
I don’t care personally about Hank’s wife. I don’t give a rat’s ass about any WE Blog CON’s family…except when they gang up on “BlueJay’s” kid or something.
Chiropractic is fraud, pure and simple. Chiropractors are frauds, pure and simple.
Look up-thread and read the link I provided — written by chiropractors — who provide a brief summary of how chiropractic “colleges” perpetrate their fraudulent snake-oil business.
When I was in LA I witnessed a staged auto accident that got me called as a witness to a Medicare Fraud trial against 15 chiro-quacks who were eventually sent to the pokey for jacking up fees and claims similar to what “Regular” wrote about re: his sister in the Quick Trip parking lot.
I heard a lot of evidence in that trial.
Every count against them indirectly jacked up my personal health insurance premiums. So, yeah, I’ve been personally damaged. Before that, I pulled a muscle in my back was was encouraged to visit a chiro-quack. As I was sitting in the lobby waiting for my back-rub, I read the brochures. The guy claimed he could cure diabetes, migraines, arthritis, clinical depression, and I don’t remember all. After he rubbed my back he looked at my insurance information and prescribed three treatments a week for six weeks — amazingly, the exact maximum number of procedures my insurance covered. Imagine the coincidence!
If you have a sore back, find a qualified Physical Therapist. Hell, even go to a South Broadway massage parlor. If you pay extra, you might even get a “happy ending.” But they’re not licensed to get kickbacks from those power-scooter flimflam artists who sell motorized wheelchairs “…for no money out of your pocket.” How convenient.
Maybe “…not out of THEIR pocket…” but out of yours. And mine. And into chiro-quackers’ pockets.
Don’t get me started.
As a general comment, and I know no general comment is 100% accurate, that which used to be a vocation is now a licence. As a boy I was told to be honest with you pastor, lawyer, doctor and bank manager and you’ll get along fine in this life. Good grief.
“American_Way” proclaims –
“…I’m cranky. Just a heads-up.”
I quiver with fear.
And today is different…how?
Republican Scozzafava Endorses Democrat After Exiting N.Y. Congressional Race
Republican Dede Scozzafava endorses Democrat Bill Owens in the race for New York’s 23rd Congressional District, one day after dropping out of the race.
foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/01/scozzafava-endorses-democrat-dropping-ny-congressional-race/
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The death knell for the GOP? Sure hope so. Bout time to throw the RINOS like McCain out and make room for some true conservatives.
Endorsed the liberal? Really?
“MonkeyHawk”
Thanks for answering the question. While I don;t completely agree with your answer, it’s a fair enough opinion. There are indeed quacks with chiropractor’s licenses. Just as there are quqcks with mds. The chiropractor my wife used for a spinal condition helped her out immensely. He does not claim to be able to heal all those things, though I have seen such brochures in the past.
Sol, I imagine Scozzafava was RINO.
She was pro abortion and a gay rights activist. Not sure why she didn’t run under an Independent ticket. Don’t know enough about her if she was fiscally conservative.
‘Climate change will burn Yosemite
Wild fires within California’s world famous Yosemite National Park are set to become more frequent and severe due to climate change.’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8334000/8334472.stm
MH – re: your 10:52
For once, something we agree on.
Well I suppose you may have a point Monkeyhawk, but you don’t have to get personal..
Here, you may have won a prize:
http://babalublog.com/2009/10/step-right-up-and-get-yer-very-own-gen-you-wine-nobel-peace-prize/crackerjack/
Using Obama logic, if any of these evil rich CEO’s [college presidents]
are receiving federal grants,
funding, research dollars, or the students receive federal loans,
grants, or assistance: Obama should
be all rights be controlling these evil rich people’s salaries:
“Every year, colleges raise tuition. Just as consistently, they increase
presidents’ salaries. And in a college-rich area that boasts some of the
wealthiest institutions in the country, modest Suffolk University has
again lavished its leader with an eye-popping pay package.
For the second consecutive year, Suffolk’s David J. Sargent ranked among
the nation’s highest-paid presidents of private colleges and
universities, receiving nearly $1.5 million in salary and benefits,
according to an annual survey released today by The Chronicle of Higher
Education. His compensation trailed only that of Shirley Ann Jackson of
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, who took in close to $1.6 million.
Nationwide, one in four presidents of private colleges earns more than
$500,000, according to the survey. Among all presidents, median pay rose
6.5 percent to $358,746 in the fiscal year that ended in 2008, the
latest available figures from federal tax filings.
Median pay for presidents at major private research universities surged
by more than 15 percent to $627,000.
Sargent isn’t the only college president in Greater Boston with a hefty
pay package. Others include MIT’s Susan Hockfield ($875,632), Boston
University’s Robert A. Brown ($804,639), Northeastern’s Joseph Aoun
($737,863), Brandeis’s Jehuda Reinharz ($709,965), and Harvard’s Drew
Faust ($693,739).
Suffolk University officials and the survey’s authors noted that
Sargent’s compensation figures are inflated by $523,200 in bonuses that
were reported in a filing made public last fall, when Sargent’s
nation-leading $2.8 million total in 2007 was roundly criticized as
excessive.”
Eduction/tuition: The other highly inflated rising cost like healthcare
(but already government run)
“Chas” –
You’re my pal. Whatever cooks for you is solid with me. I don’t care if Hank supports his ducks and goats addiction with his wife’s income.
(I’m a little taken aback you know the rates at the massage parlor; that’ll come back to haunt you, I’m sure.)
And maybe the Chiro-quacker you see knows s/he’s in the business of easing lower back pain. I dunno.
If the chiro-back-crackers were all like yours, I wouldn’t have a problem. Except they’ve bought off enough politicians to buy them some kind of status of “doctor,” and that’s just wrong.
The practice of chiro-quackery is, in fact, a huge source of medicare and insurance fraud in America.
Good news! America’s last free and independent automaker is making
money!!
DEARBORN, Mich. – Ford, the only Detroit automaker to dodge direct
government aid and bankruptcy court, surprised investors with net income
of nearly $1 billion in the third quarter and forecast a “solidly
profitable” 2011.
Ford also has benefited from consumer goodwill after it declined
government bailout money and didn’t go into bankruptcy over the summer
as GM and Chrysler did. Ford grabbed sales from its rivals, posting the
largest increase in market share of any automaker in September.
And at Government owned Motors?…………..
“Republican Scozzafava Endorses Democrat After Exiting N.Y. Congressional Race
Moderates and other rational people take note!
You are persona non grata in the GOP. You WILL listen to Rush Limbaugh. You WILL regard Sarah Palin as a credible candidate for high office. Otherwise you can gid out!
I took my daughter to a chiropractor once on the recommendation of her volleyball coach after an injury.
The chiropractor called me after the initial exam while my daughter was still lying on the table. She said my daughter’s problem was that one leg was longer than the other (or shorter, I don’t remember).
I looked at my otherwise perfectly healthy and athletic daughter, reached down and firmly pulled on her the shorter leg, and said, “Well look now their both the same. Thanks Doc! We’ll be leaving now!”
“He and other defenders of limited federal power foresee a constitutional challenge to the mandate to buy insurance based on the claim that
Congress’ power to regulate commerce does not extend to forcing citizens to buy a commercial product.” [AmWay]
So, just wondering, do you feel this same “anger” over the few states that want to mandate BY LAW that all citizens carry a hand gun(proposed in Vermont, and one southern State)
Or do you feel differently when it comes to a gun law forced on all citizens??
She was pro abortion and a gay rights activist.
Wouldn’t say that makes her a RINO in the least. Those are RR issues that have helped to kill the GOP.
Please note, AmWay… That isnt snark… it’s a legitimate question…
Moderate republican = social democrat.
rational people = found across all political parties
They are two entirely separate things.
What burns me is that Obama campaigned like a big man with a plan. Like
Afghanistan was the RIGHT war
to fight! Like he was going to fight and win! Now what’s he doing?
Even as his excuses evaporate, he still is waffling indecisively!
“Top White House advisers said Obama’s painstaking review, ongoing since
early September, would not be hampered by Sunday’s announcement from the
top challenger in the Afghan presidential runoff election that he would
withdraw from a race he was likely to lose.
“I expect the president will make a decision within weeks,” senior Obama
adviser David Axelrod said. “As you know, he has gone through a very
rigorous process because the goal here is not just to make an arithmetic
judgment about the number of troops, but to make sure that we have the
right strategy.”
The Obama administration had planned to wait until after the runoff
before deciding whether to continue targeting the Taliban in Afghanistan
with more U.S. forces or focus on eliminating al-Qaida and other
terrorists with unmanned spy planes in Pakistan.
Valerie Jarrett, another senior White House adviser, said the aborted
runoff would not “complicate” Obama’s strategy decision. She did not
mention Karzai specifically.
Jarrett said. “We watched the election very carefully. And we’re going
to work with the leader of the Afghan government and hopefully that’s
going to improve the state of conditions for the people in Afghanistan, and also help us as we try to bring this war to a close.”
Sounds like an exit strategy – not stay and fighting. That’s fine.
Just make up your mind!!
“US Looks To Vietnam For Tips On Losing War
US looks to Vietnam for Afghan tips
By SLOBODAN LEKIC (AP)
August 7
BRUSSELS – Top U.S. officials have reached out to a leading Vietnam war
scholar to discuss the similarities of that conflict 40 years ago with
American involvement in Afghanistan, where the U.S. is seeking ways to
isolate an elusive guerrilla force and win over a skeptical local
population.
The overture to Pulitzer Prize-winning historian Stanley Karnow, who
opposes the Afghan war, comes as the U.S. is evaluating its strategy
there…
McChrystal and Richard Holbrooke, the U.S. special envoy to the country,
telephoned Karnow on July 27 in an apparent effort to apply the lessons
of Vietnam to the Afghan war, which started in 2001 when U.S.-led forces
ousted the Taliban regime in the wake of the 9/11 attacks.
Among the concerns voiced by historians is the credibility of President
Hamid Karzai’s government, which is widely perceived as being plagued by
graft and corruption. They draw a parallel between Afghanistan’s
presidential election on Aug. 20 and the failed effort in Vietnam to
legitimize a military regime lacking broad popular support through an
imposed presidential election in 1967.
Holbrooke rang me from Kabul and passed the phone to the general,” said
Karnow, who authored the seminal 1983 book, “Vietnam: A History.”
Holbrooke confirmed to The Associated Press that the three men discussed
similarities between the two wars. “We discussed the two situations and
what to do,” he said during a visit last week to NATO headquarters in
Brussels.
In an interview Thursday with the AP, Karnow said it was the first time
he had ever been consulted by U.S. commanders to discuss the war. He did
not elaborate on the specifics of the conversation.
When asked what could be drawn from the Vietnam experience, Karnow
replied: “What did we learn from Vietnam? We learned that we shouldn’t
have been there in the first place. Obama and everybody else seem to
want to be in Afghanistan, but not I.”
“It now seems unthinkable that the U.S. could lose (in Afghanistan), but
that’s what experts … thought in Vietnam in 1967,” he said at his
Maryland home. “It could be that there will be no real conclusion and
that it will go on for a long time until the American public grows tired
of it.” …
Isn’t that great? The Obama administration is reaching out to people who
can tell them how to lose a war against all odds.
There is a real reason Mr. Karnow was on the master list of Nixon
political opponents. He was a defeatist.”
“(I’m a little taken aback you know the rates at the massage parlor; that’ll come back to haunt you, I’m sure.)” [Monkey]
Well, it is a massage therapy place… not the massage parlor sort of place on S. Bwdy… It is quite legitimate… TX license and everything… one of our members told me about it… and told me the price… But I understand that there are the other variety in many places… This one here has a Masters Degree in Rehab, and Sports Training… does work for the local school district, as I understand it…
For the Obama administration, cities such as Lamar are as much a problem of expectations as it is of policy. For all the items contained in the stimulus, from tax cuts to road work to new schools, nothing could quickly replace what factory towns lost during a recession that shed hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/01/AR2009110101400.html?hpid=sec-business
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All of the stimulus money went to the greedy fat-cat bankers. We don’t have time to worry about lost blue-collar jobs.
Yankees win again – woof
Sorry, was a childhood fan and still am.
The idea that the government of a major advanced country would default on its debt — that is, tell lenders that it won’t repay them all they’re owed — was, until recently, a preposterous proposition. Argentina and Russia have stiffed their creditors, but surely the likes of the United States, Japan or Britain wouldn’t. Well, it’s still a very, very long shot, but it’s no longer entirely unimaginable. Governments of rich countries are borrowing so much that it’s conceivable that one day the twin assumptions underlying their burgeoning debt (that lenders will continue to lend and that governments will continue to pay) might collapse. What happens then?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/01/AR2009110101704.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
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I wonder what China will do when we stiff them.
Return on Investment
Total campaign contributions and lobbying by TARP recipients:
Citigroup Inc.
Campaign Contributions, 07-08 Cycle
$4,799,678
Lobbying Expenditures, 2008
$7,660,000
TARP Payments
$50,000,000,000
ROI: 401194%
“I wonder what China will do when we stiff them.”
Could America go broke?
“The question is so unfamiliar that the past provides few clues to the future. Phology is crucial. To take a parallel example: the dollar.
The fear is that foreigners (and Americans, too) will lose confidence in its value and dump it for yen, euros, gold or oil. If too many investors
do that, a self-fulfilling stampede could trigger sell-offs in U.S. stocks and bonds.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/01/AR200911
0101704.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
(Only interesting read for true conservatives)
American_Way
Posted November 2, 2009 at 11:30 am | Permalink
“I wonder what China will do when we stiff them.”
Could America go broke?
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Hey Bro, your link is broke.
“GMC70″ posts from work (I had to include that; I think it’s one of the terms of WE Blog) __
MH – re: your 10:52
For once, something we agree on.
I think it’s not all that different from attorneys who show pictures and videos and PowerPoint productions of a baby born with birth defects and convince juries some kind of malpractice occurred.
But malpractice settlements and awards pale compared to the cost of Medicare, Medicaid, and insurance fraud. And chiro-quackery is a huge contributor to such fraud.
Meanwhile, a hard frost hasn’t occurred in my part of Kansas so this is a bad allergy day. I’ll probably not turn to chiropractic to stop the nasal drip and sneezing. Although the promise subluxation is the cure.
‘Nepal cabinet to meet on Everest: minister‘
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i_8522tYAT-okE_rEBqOSfVyjmeA
” The melting of the glaciers in the Himalayas is a serious concern for us,” said Bohora.
“We want to focus the world’s attention on saving the Himalayas from the effects of climate change before the Copenhagen meeting.”
Around 1.3 billion people depend on the water that flows down from the Himalayan glaciers, which experts say are melting at an alarming rate, threatening to bring floods and later drought to the region. “
No, Michele Obama does not get paid to serve as the First Lady and she doesn’t perform any official duties. But this hasn’t deterred her from hiring an unprecedented number of staffers to cater to her every whim and to satisfy her every request in the midst of the Great Recession. Just think Mary Lincoln was taken to task for purchasing china for the White House during the Civil War. And Mamie Eisenhower had to shell out the salary for her personal secretary.
How things have changed! If you’re one of the tens of millions of Americans facing certain destitution, earning less than subsistence wages stocking the shelves at Wal-Mart or serving up McDonald cheeseburgers, prepare to scream and then come to realize that the benefit package for these servants of Miz Michele are the same as members of the national security and defense departments and the bill for these assorted lackeys is paid by John Q. Public:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12652
A quick addition of the salaries at the link came to $1.25 million.
Mamie Eisenhower : 1 paid for personally out of President’s salary
Jackie Kennedy: 1
Roseline Carter: 1
Barbara Bush: 1
Hilary Clinton: 3
Laura Bush: 1
Michele Obama: 22
Heckler: Looks like the number of Michelle’s staff is correct, but the number of the other first lady staffers is not correctly shown in that article.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/firstlady.asp
“A quick addition of the salaries at the link came to $1.25 million.
Mamie Eisenhower : 1 paid for personally out of President’s salary
Jackie Kennedy: 1
Roseline Carter: 1
Barbara Bush: 1
Hilary Clinton: 3
Laura Bush: 1
Michele Obama: 22″
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C’mon Heckler…It’s all part of the “one million jobs saved or created” program. She is just doing her part.
What did laura bush need the one for? To wind her up?
Well, I stand corrected. Looks like she is just following tradition.
I feel sorry for the person who makes 30K per year in the White House and has to survive in D.C., which is a very expensive place to live.
The biggest threat to America right now is not government spending, huge deficits, foreign ownership of our debt, world terrorism, two wars, potential epidemics or nuts with nukes. The biggest long-term threat is that people are becoming and have become disheartened, that this condition is reaching critical mass, and that it afflicts most broadly and deeply those members of the American leadership class who are not in Washington, most especially those in business.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703363704574503631430926354.html
Heckler,
Thank you for helping to prove that the conservative web site canadafreepress is not a credible source.
XXX
Sounds to me like you are ready for a Tea Party.
Cosmo
The numbers for other first ladies staff did not come from Canada free press. I should have noted that.
Heckler,
Thanks for showing that Cosmos doesn;t read the provided links before passing judgement on the source.
Heckler,
I had already noticed at outlander’s Snope’s link that canadafreepress was not the original source. . . but cfp posted, and spread the false claims.
littlejohn,
Please explain how you know what I have read, and not read.
“Heckler
Posted November 2, 2009 at 12:11 pm | Permalink
No, Michele Obama does not get paid to serve as the First Lady and she doesn’t perform any official duties. But this hasn’t deterred her from hiring an unprecedented number of staffers to cater to her every whim and to satisfy her every request in the midst of the Great Recession. Just think Mary Lincoln was taken to task for purchasing china for the White House during the Civil War. And Mamie Eisenhower had to shell out the salary for her personal secretary.
How things have changed! If you’re one of the tens of millions of Americans facing certain destitution, earning less than subsistence wages stocking the shelves at Wal-Mart or serving up McDonald cheeseburgers, prepare to scream and then come to realize that the benefit package for these servants of Miz Michele are the same as members of the national security and defense departments and the bill for these assorted lackeys is paid by John Q. Public:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12652
A quick addition of the salaries at the link came to $1.25 million.
Mamie Eisenhower : 1 paid for personally out of President’s salary
Jackie Kennedy: 1
Roseline Carter: 1
Barbara Bush: 1
Hilary Clinton: 3
Laura Bush: 1
Michele Obama: 22″
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cosmos_originally
Posted November 2, 2009 at 12:29 pm | Permalink
Heckler,
Thank you for helping to prove that the conservative web site canadafreepress is not a credible source.”
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12652
No, Michele Obama does not get paid to serve as the First Lady and she doesn’t perform any official duties. But this hasn’t deterred her from hiring an unprecedented number of staffers to cater to her every whim and to satisfy her every request in the midst of the Great Recession. Just think Mary Lincoln was taken to task for purchasing china for the White House during the Civil War. And Mamie Eisenhower had to shell out the salary for her personal secretary.
How things have changed! If you’re one of the tens of millions of Americans facing certain destitution, earning less than subsistence wages stocking the shelves at Wal-Mart or serving up McDonald cheeseburgers, prepare to scream and then come to realize that the benefit package for these servants of Miz Michele are the same as members of the national security and defense departments and the bill for these assorted lackeys is paid by John Q. Public:
$172,2000 – Sher, Susan (CHIEF OF STAFF)
$140,000 – Frye, Jocelyn C. (DEPUTY ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND PROJECTS FOR THE FIRST LADY)
$113,000 – Rogers, Desiree G. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND WHITE HOUSE SOCIAL SECRETARY)
$102,000 – Johnston, Camille Y. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE FIRST LADY)
Winter, Melissa E. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE FIRST LADY)
$90,000 – Medina, David S. (DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE FIRST LADY)
$84,000 – Lelyveld, Catherine M. (DIRECTOR AND PRESS SECRETARY TO THE FIRST LADY)
$75,000 – Starkey, Frances M. (DIRECTOR OF SCHEDULING AND ADVANCE FOR THE FIRST LADY)
$70,000 – Sanders, Trooper (DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND PROJECTS FOR THE FIRST LADY)
$65,000 – Burnough, Erinn J. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND DEPUTY SOCIAL SECRETARY)
Reinstein, Joseph B. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND DEPUTY SOCIAL SECRETARY)
$62,000 – Goodman, Jennifer R. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF SCHEDULING AND EVENTS COORDINATOR FOR THE FIRST LADY)
$60,000 – Fitts, Alan O. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF ADVANCE AND TRIP DIRECTOR FOR THE FIRST LADY)
Lewis, Dana M. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT AND PERSONAL AIDE TO THE FIRST LADY)
$52,500 – Mustaphi, Semonti M. (ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR AND DEPUTY PRESS SECRETARY TO THE FIRST LADY)
$50,000 – Jarvis, Kristen E. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT FOR SCHEDULING AND TRAVELING AIDE TO THE FIRST LADY)
$45,000 – Lechtenberg, Tyler A. (ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF CORRESPONDENCE FOR THE FIRST LADY)
Tubman, Samantha (DEPUTY ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR,SOCIAL OFFICE)
$40,000 – Boswell, Joseph J. (EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE FIRST LADY)
$36,000 – Armbruster, Sally M. (STAFF ASSISTANT TO THE SOCIAL SECRETARY)
Bookey, Natalie (STAFF ASSISTANT)
Jackson, Deilia A. (DEPUTY ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF CORRESPONDENCE FOR THE FIRST LADY)
“
So where, oh where, dear Cosmos, is the provided by Heckler that cfp is not a credible source? Please show your work.
Good article XXX
Also, Heckler’s 12:11 pm inaccurate canadafreepress’ White House staff column is old — boxlock20 posted a copy/paste and link to it last August.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/08/open-thread-84-3/#comment-631751
What is inaccurate about the cfp post? WHo cares if it is old. You stated that Hecklers post “proved” that cfp was not a credible source. Please describe said “prrof”
WHo cares if it;s old. Back up your own statement
littlejohn,
Do you really not understand the word “unprecedented” used in the cfp column you copy/pasted?
Please compare the “number of staffers” during the recent previous administrations.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/11/open-thread-112-5/#comment-689105
I well imagine since the discussion of staff pay for the first lady speaks of Mamie Eisenhower, which was over a half century ago, there most likely is an ‘old’ factor to it.
Perhaps cosmos can do a trend analysis and take an average, then predict what the next ten first ladies’ staff will cost?
Oh I see. The article wasn;t incorrect, just the editorializing word “unprecedented” Okay. I stand corrected. You win. Wow. How long did it take you to pick thru the article after making your statement to find a word that might justify your statement. Cool. The truth is, you jumped the shark, and you know it. But go ahead, in your mind you won. Congratulations.
littlejohn posted November 2, 2009 at 12:47 pm
But this hasn’t deterred her from hiring an unprecedented number of staffers. . .
. . .
But this hasn’t deterred her from hiring an unprecedented number of staffers. . .
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littlejohn,
You seem to be claiming that the above statement from the July 7, 2009 cfp column is accurate and credible.
Prove it.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/unprecedented
1. never before seen or done, without precedent.
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Do you need help with the word, “never”?
Heckler
Posted November 2, 2009 at 12:29 pm | Permalink
XXX
Sounds to me like you are ready for a Tea Party.
___________________________
Funny you should mention that. I’ve talked to some of those folks. Once you discount the Glen Beck crazies, they seem like just plain people like you and me.
In my new-found role as a free agent, I’m open to new experiences and different ideas.
LJ,
She will argue over how many pixels are used in the dot over your i’s. Why even feed her?
We contacted Katie McCormick Lelyveld, Michelle Obama’s press secretary, to check the list’s accuracy. Lelyveld told us in an e-mail that the first lady’s current staff size is actually 24, not 22, as the chain e-mail claims. Lelyveld couldn’t provide a list of the staffers at that time.
http://m.factcheck.org/2009/08/michelle-obamas-staff/
COSMOS-
Your arms are flailing again. Simply put
I already noted the incorrectness of the word unprecedented, but you keep flailing away at it.
Frankly my dear, I don;t give a damn
So…
I might be stupid/paranoid/both here, but doesn’t it seem weird that Goldman Sachs creates/lobbie to create the environment which the housing bubble was inflated by. At the same time, they are “betting” that their contrived high housing prices will tank and then they put all of their best criminals withing government…our money system no less.
Now they, conveniently, get to take the homes away from those in which they artificially inflated the prices of to begin with?
This transcends Bush and Obama.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/77841.html
Still, I’m gonna go out on a limb and believe that since you can’t put a donkey or an elephant behind it, that it just isn’t worth any worry.
CIT Bankruptcy Won’t Hurt Dell Finance Division, Dell Says
By Ben Charny
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
WSJ
littlejohn posted November 2, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Frankly my dear, I don;t give a damn
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Right littlejohn. . . you don’t care if cfp’s column inaccurately says that 22 staffers is “unprecedented”, even though earlier administrations had more, such as 30, and 40.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/firstlady.asp
“However, it’s grossly inaccurate to claim that the current First Lady has hired “an unprecedented number of staffers,”. . . “
#
XXX
Posted November 2, 2009 at 1:18 pm | Permalink
Heckler
Posted November 2, 2009 at 12:29 pm | Permalink
XXX
Sounds to me like you are ready for a Tea Party.
___________________________
Funny you should mention that. I’ve talked to some of those folks. Once you discount the Glen Beck crazies, they seem like just plain people like you and me.
In my new-found role as a free agent, I’m open to new experiences and different ideas.
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They’ll be here Wednesday, November 4th from 1:00pm to 3:00pm in the parking lot at Lawrence Dumont Stadium.
http://www.teapartyexpress.org/tour-shedule-2/wichita-ks/
soldevvb posted November 2, 2009 at 1:19 pm
LJ,
She will argue over how many pixels are used in the dot over your i’s. Why even feed her?
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And soldevvb wants to argue that 22 is greater than 40?
No wonder soldevvb cannot understand even basic climate science.
“Right littlejohn. . . you don’t care if cfp’s column inaccurately says that 22 staffers is “unprecedented”, even though earlier administrations had more, such as 30, and 40.”
More arm flailing. I never said that in the least. In fact, I acknowledged the incorrect usage of the wword “unprecedented” Are you willfully ignorant, or willfully lying about my position?
Could America go broke?
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“Hey Bro, your link is broke.”
Corrected copy a little late.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/01/AR2009110101704.html
Could America go broke?
_________________________________
“Hey Bro, your link is broke.”
Corrected copy a little late.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/01/AR2009110101704.html
cosmos_originally
Posted November 2, 2009 at 1:41 pm | Permalink
Right littlejohn. . . you don’t care if cfp’s column inaccurately says that 22 staffers is “unprecedented”, even though earlier administrations had more, such as 30, and 40.
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Are you willfully ignorant, or willfully lying?
I already stated
“The article wasn;t incorrect, just the editorializing word “unprecedented” Okay. I stand corrected”
and
“I already noted the incorrectness of the word unprecedented, but you keep flailing away at it”
Do not understand the words? Or do you just want to ignore them?
Frankly my dear, I don;t give a damn …Either way, your “voice” is unimportant. thanks for playing, though
The First Lady aids story has been so completely debunked.. I cannot believe I am seeing it again. Snopes it, please.
OK…..who broke teh WE Blog?
Somebody must’ve been getting the better of one of our cons Whose Name Shalln’t be Mentioned.
“OK…..who broke teh WE Blog?”
Bush.
Was Cheney’s 72 “I don’t recalls” during his FBI interview about Scooter and Plame in contention with A.G.,A.G? I don’t recall!
littlejohn,
You are the one who is flailing.
22 is less than 40. 22 is not “unprecedented”.
The use of “unprecedented” is inaccurate, not “editorializing”.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/firstlady.asp
Laura Bush’s Staff UPDATE WASHINGTON POST
2008 White House Office Staff List – Salary
Published Thursday, July 24, 2008
McBride, Anita B. Assistant to the President and Chief of Staff to the First Lady $172,200.
Armstrong, Sara Assistant to the President and Duty Chief of Staff to the First Lady $102,000.
Miller, Sonja Marie Duty Chief of Staff to the First Lady $88,500.
Ballard, Deanna M. Director of Scheduling for the First Lady $78,400.
McArthur, Nikki L. Speech Writer for First Lady $63,000.
Knutson, Lindsay Special Asst. and Personal Aide to the First Lady $62,700.
Marshall, Misty C. Director of Correspondence for the First Lady $62,400.
Adams, Julie E. $57,500. Deputy Press Secretary to First Lady $57,500.
Mende, Kirstin M Deputy Director of Policy and Projects for the First Lady$53,000.
Etter, Marisa Leigh Deputy Director of Scheduling for the First Lady $52,200
King, Kristin N Deputy Director of Advance for the First Lady $52,200
Segura, Millicent Deputy Director of Correspondence for the First Lady $47,000
Miller, Kasdin E. Assistant Press Secretary to the First Lady $43,000
O’Connor, Erin M Executive Assistant to the Chief of Staff to the First Lady $41,800
McBride, Anita B. Assistant to the president and chief of staff to the first lady $168,000.00
Harder, Cherie S. Special asistant to the president for domestic policy and director of project of the first lady $108,000.00
Niemiec, Sally M. Press secretary to the First Lady $90,000.00
Miller, Sonja M. Deputy chief of staff to the first lady $84,700.00
Ballard, Deanna M. Director of scheduling for the First Lady $75,000.00
Marshall, Misty C. Director of correspondence for the first lady $59,700.00
Etter, Marisa L. Deputy director of scheduling for the First Lady $50,000.00
Lineweaver, Lindsey M. Special assistant and personal aide to the first lady $47,500.00
Donoghue , Tarah C. Deputy press secretary to the First Lady $43,000.00
Block, Jonathan F. Assistant press secretary to the First Lady $39,000.00
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By my count Laura Bush had 24 ’servants.’ Lots of female names on that list….who would’ve guessed that Mrs. Bush was a reverse-sexist?
FROM THE WASHINGTON TIMES: In the portions of President Clinton’s Jan. 17 deposition that have been made public in the Paula Jones case, his memory failed him 267 times.
I guess politicians have bad memories
Anything that has been par for the course in the White House is suddenly something extraordinary and indicative of some hidden Obama agenda and a subject for attack.
#
littlejohn
Posted November 2, 2009 at 6:22 pm | Permalink
FROM THE WASHINGTON TIMES: In the portions of President Clinton’s Jan. 17 deposition that have been made public in the Paula Jones case, his memory failed him 267 times.
I guess politicians have bad memories
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Probably from all that non-inhaling he did at Oxford.
Jacqueline Kennedy, who made renovating the White Houose her cause, had about 40 people on th staff.
Lady Bird Johson had about 30 for the ‘beautifying roadways.’
Gee – Democratic Party President First Ladies – who would have thought they hold the records on number of staff. :)
Nancy Reagan didnt need staff… She used psychics instead… :-))
Sounds to me like the major complaint isnt that Michelle Obama has 24 staff members… It sounds like the complaint is that a Black First Lady has AANY staff… :-))
The AGW science deniers will probably have fun attacking and lying about Gore’s new book.
‘The Evolution Of An Eco-Prophet
Al Gore’s views on climate change are advancing as rapidly as the phenomenon itself.’
http://www.newsweek.com/id/220552
AlGore’sThe Goracle’sviewsweight is advancing as rapidly as the phenomenon itself.’“littlejohn” cuts-and-posts –
“FROM THE WASHINGTON TIMES:”
The Moonie Times.
Great source, there.
Sorry to “attack the messenger,” an’ all that.
I’ve posted too many links to the NY Times over the years and had them dismissed by CONs.
And it’s delightful to have WE Blog CONs dismiss the eight years of Shrub/Cheney while going back and attacking former-President Clinton.
Do you really not see your hyprocacy? Even at that level?
C’mon.
“Hypocrisy.”
Eh….
Regular/Republican,
Thank you for attacking Al Gore’s weight.
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There guys are well organized. And growing…..
The Goracle now has more ‘Chins’ than a Chinese phone book.
Plase be sure to send the Editors a THANK YOU note for free advertising space for the teabagger fantasies… Thank you.
“And it’s delightful to have WE Blog CONs dismiss the eight years of Shrub/Cheney while going back and attacking former-President Clinton.
Do you really not see your hyprocacy? Even at that level?
C’mon.”
I have numerous times over the years criticized the Bush/Cheny Administration. I haven;t dismissed a thing. My point was that politicans
(all of them) Lie or forget
Too bad we can;t seem to elect people above such things….my guess is we get the kinds of politicians we ask for.
“It sounds like the complaint is that a Black First Lady has AANY staff… :-))”
Yeah right. You can put the hookah down now.
“There guys are well organized. And growing…..”
Yeah I think I’ll go down to Lawrence DuMont parking lot and laugh at all coupla dozen of ‘em.
Regular/Republican,
Thank you again — post some more fat jokes.
“littlejohn,
You are the one who is flailing.
22 is less than 40. 22 is not “unprecedented”.
The use of “unprecedented” is inaccurate, not “editorializing”.”
Are you really that dense? Or do you just play that way on WEBLOG?
littlejohn
Posted November 2, 2009 at 1:20 pm | Permalink
COSMOS-
Your arms are flailing again. Simply put
I already noted the incorrectness of the word unprecedented, but you keep flailing away at it.
As I said more than once, the word unprecedented was use incorrectly. ANy quesitons?
Do you need to look up the word incorrectly in the Dictionary.
The Goracle is so fat one has to grease the door frame and hold a twinkie on the other side just to get him throught it.
Hey Chas, just saw your question.
My answer is the government shouldn’t force you to buy a gun either. They should just give you one.
Does that answer your question?
House Republicans Find 111 New ‘Bureaucracies’ in Health Care Bill
cont’d at Fox News
No, AmWay, it doesnt… unless you want to use the same solution to providing health care… :-))
And just WHO would pay for all those “Give Away” guns?? Taxpayer dollars, eh??
So, if they dont require people to BUY the guns, you’re OK with that?? But yet, you want government to PROVIDE the guns?? LOL
You have GOT to be kidding!!
Guns you want GIVEN for protection…
Health Care you want DENIED for healthy lives??? Man, you make NO sense…
Hallelujah Reg!! It’s about time!!
Planned Parenthood Director Quits After Watching Abortion on Ultrasound
cont’d at Fox News
littlejohn,
You had a very strange and sarcastic way of admitting that the column was inaccurate.
littlejohn posted November 2, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Oh I see. The article wasn;t incorrect, just the editorializing word “unprecedented” Okay. I stand corrected. You win. Wow. How long did it take you to pick thru the article after making your statement to find a word that might justify your statement. Cool. The truth is, you jumped the shark, and you know it. But go ahead, in your mind you won. Congratulations.
Regular/Republican,
Thank you again for another fat joke.
Cosmos, the entire premise of the article was that Mrs. Obama’s staff of 24 was unprecedented…. Since a First Lady stff of 24 is NOT higher than any before, that makes the entire article wrong… not just the use of the word “unprecedented”.
“The former director of a Planned Parenthood clinic in southeast Texas says she had a “change of heart” after watching an abortion last month — and she quit her job and joined a pro-life group in praying outside the facility.” [Reggie]
Yea, right… planned parenthood DIRECTOR… and never had seen an abortion?? Sure… Riiiiight…. What a crock!!
Chas—
You are wrong once again. This much of the article:
“How things have changed! If you’re one of the tens of millions of Americans facing certain destitution, earning less than subsistence wages stocking the shelves at Wal-Mart or serving up McDonald cheeseburgers, prepare to scream and then come to realize that the benefit package for these servants of Miz Michele are the same as members of the national security and defense departments and the bill for these assorted lackeys is paid by John Q. Public:
$172,2000 – Sher, Susan (CHIEF OF STAFF)
$140,000 – Frye, Jocelyn C. (DEPUTY ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND PROJECTS FOR THE FIRST LADY)
$113,000 – Rogers, Desiree G. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND WHITE HOUSE SOCIAL SECRETARY)
$102,000 – Johnston, Camille Y. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE FIRST LADY)
Winter, Melissa E. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE FIRST LADY)
$90,000 – Medina, David S. (DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE FIRST LADY)
$84,000 – Lelyveld, Catherine M. (DIRECTOR AND PRESS SECRETARY TO THE FIRST LADY)
$75,000 – Starkey, Frances M. (DIRECTOR OF SCHEDULING AND ADVANCE FOR THE FIRST LADY)
$70,000 – Sanders, Trooper (DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND PROJECTS FOR THE FIRST LADY)
$65,000 – Burnough, Erinn J. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND DEPUTY SOCIAL SECRETARY)
Reinstein, Joseph B. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND DEPUTY SOCIAL SECRETARY)
$62,000 – Goodman, Jennifer R. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF SCHEDULING AND EVENTS COORDINATOR FOR THE FIRST LADY)
$60,000 – Fitts, Alan O. (DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF ADVANCE AND TRIP DIRECTOR FOR THE FIRST LADY)
Lewis, Dana M. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT AND PERSONAL AIDE TO THE FIRST LADY)
$52,500 – Mustaphi, Semonti M. (ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR AND DEPUTY PRESS SECRETARY TO THE FIRST LADY)
$50,000 – Jarvis, Kristen E. (SPECIAL ASSISTANT FOR SCHEDULING AND TRAVELING AIDE TO THE FIRST LADY)
$45,000 – Lechtenberg, Tyler A. (ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF CORRESPONDENCE FOR THE FIRST LADY)
Tubman, Samantha (DEPUTY ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR,SOCIAL OFFICE)
$40,000 – Boswell, Joseph J. (EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE FIRST LADY)
$36,000 – Armbruster, Sally M. (STAFF ASSISTANT TO THE SOCIAL SECRETARY)
Bookey, Natalie (STAFF ASSISTANT)
Jackson, Deilia A. (DEPUTY ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF CORRESPONDENCE FOR THE FIRST LADY)” was correct.
The tone of the article as a whole, however, because of the inaccurate usage of the word “unprecdented” was incorrect.
Cosmos-
You are right… I used a sarcastic tone. Intentionally. For the reason that I believe that you had not read the article to “find” the error until challenged, otherwise you would have jumped on it right away. I continue to believe that, and that you aren;t adult enought to admit to it. However, the tone was uncalled for. I apologize for the snarkiness of it.
Pelosi Care – Cooking the Books
The answer is in the breakdown of the bill’s costs in two 5-year sections, as the CBO does on page 3 of the document. The total theorized deficit reduction of $104 billion is equal to the deficit reduction of just the first 5 years of the bill. In other words, there is no deficit reduction in the second 5 years. And the reason for that is that the bill’s tax hikes take effect immediately while the so-called health care “reforms” are not instituted until 2013 or 2014.
The insomniac speed-readers at Americans for Tax Reform have plowed through the Pelosi bill and explained that “this gargantuan beast contains thirteen new tax hikes.” Here are a few of the highlights:
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If an employer doesn’t pay a high enough percentage of an employee’s health insurance premium, that employer must pay a penalty equal to 8% of his average employee’s wage. (The penalty percentage drops for smaller employers, down to 0% if the annual payroll is under $500,000.) Any amount of health care premium paid by the employer which comes from a reduction in an employee’s salary does not count toward the employer’s contribution.
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(The CBO estimates these two penalties alone to account for about $168 billion in money funneled from individuals and businesses to the government over ten years.)
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If you think that rapidly bankrupting the federal budget isn’t enough, don’t worry: The Pelosi bill will also bankrupt the states. The bill will force roughly 15 million more people into Medicaid, an increase of nearly 37%. Medicaid, which provides health care to the poor, is approximately 43% paid for by states, and Pelosi’s bill is estimated to increase cost to the states by $189 billion over the first ten years. For example, Missouri’s Lt. Governor recently estimated that if Pelosi’s bill passes, it will cost the state $450 million annually.
Renowned economist Arthur Laffer predicts that the Democrats’ “reform” will cost Texas $37 billion by 2019, in addition to increasing health care inflation by more than 5% and reducing GDP by nearly 5% of what its level would be if the government did nothing.
Ross Kaminsky
L-John…
How am I wrong?? Mrs. Obama has a staff of 24… The idea of the article is to show that she has this HUGE staff… BUt… as has already been pointed out, unless you think that 24 > 40, that simply is a WRONG argument… Now, if you want to hang on to the FALSE notion that Mrs. Obama’s staff is SOOO HUGE…. Then looks like you just dont have anything but the wrong choice of the word “unprecedented”
If the gubermint is giving away healthcare, then I think free guns (a constitutional right to bear them), free bass boats, and free Z28’s are a basic human right.
What else could promoting the general welfare imply?
Chas-
Seriously. If you can’t figure it out for yourself, I have no interest in trying to work it out for you. Let’s just agree to disagree.
Night all, I am outta here
Night all!! Have a nice Evening!!
L-John… It is the INSINUATION that Mrs. Obama is doing something unusual with the size of her staff… Clearly she isnt… THAT is why the article is wrong… I guess I cant figure out what it is you are defending about a less than truthful article… ok??
AmWay, here’s the thing… You are advocating giving away FREE guns…
The Democrats are advocating AFFORDABLE health care for all people… except for the VERY poor who cant afford it…
And yet, even though you seemingly have NO problem with taxpayer dollars being used in your fantasy gun give-away…. You cant stand the thought of people having the opportunity for AFFORDABLE health care… as you say every friggin day… (except for maybe the most needy)…
SO, how do you justify such a thing??? Or is it some CON think concept??
Chas just for the record the Planned Parenthood dirctor quit after seeing a sonagram of an infant that was about to be aborted.
It seems that little blob of tissue looked just like a real live baby. She said she could never again say abortion was a womans right again.
It seems she now knows that abortion kills a healthy baby.
Now, I really gotta go… road trip tomorrow, and laundry is in process… Until tomorrow… maybe…
Good Night!!
July 31, 2009
By MB Snow
There has been some discussion of Michelle Obama’s staff payroll compared to Laura Bush’s. Here are the results of my investigation.
Michelle Obama has 16 paid staff which cost the American taxpayers $1,256,700.
Laura Bush had 10 paid staff which cost the American taxpayers $764,900.
A difference of $491,800.
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Michelle has hired some since then so you can compare her 24 to Laura Bush’s 10.
Planned Parenthood Hits Former Director in Texas With Restraining Order
Published 1, November 2, 2009 Bizarre , Constitutional Law , Courts , Politics , Society 13 Comments
There is an interesting fight between Planned Parenthood and its former director in Bryan, Texas. (Yes, it appears the same town where the Virgin Mary was recently discovered in bird droppings, here). Abby Johnson worked for Planned Parenthood for eight years, but decided to leave after watching an ultrasound of an abortion procedure. This has led to the filing of a restraining order against her by her former employer after she joined forces with the Coalition For Life.
Abortion opponents have often litigated and legislated to try to force prospective mothers to watch ultrasound images before having an abortion. This case is likely to reinforce such efforts.
Johnson stated that, after seeing the images, she decided to quit: “I just thought I can’t do this anymore, and it was just like a flash that hit me and I thought that’s it.” She resigned on Oct. 6th.
She has claimed that the organization has changed its policies in the bad economy to push for abortions.
http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/02/planned-parenthood-hits-former-director-in-texas-with-restraining-order/
Truthfully, I don’t support free anything. Not free guns. Not free cheese.
I certainly do not support forcing Americans to buy anything, including guns or healthcare.
Likewise, I should not be FORCED to fund their healthcare either.
Not to change the subject but has anyone here been on Hwy 400 lately and encountered the turnabout at Ferdonia? What a mess. Is something like that even legal on a major highway. It it is should it be?
I can see a semi coming upon that monstrosity in the dark and barreling through it.
It is the INSINUATION that Mrs. Obama is doing something unusual with the size of her staff
Is that what they are calling ‘it’ these days.
“Chas just for the record the Planned Parenthood dirctor quit…”
It is too bad that in making this CHOICE this woman now has decided to effort denying choice to others.
“(Yes, it appears the same town where the Virgin Mary was recently discovered in bird droppings, here)
And would the former Planned Parenthood director happen to be the same person who saw the virgin Mary in bird poo? I’ve known people who suddenly “find god”. They do all sorts of odd things.
okobserver posted November 2, 2009 at 8:46 pm
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/firstlady.asp
littlejohn posted November 2, 2009 at 8:00 pm
For the reason that I believe that you had not read the article to “find” the error until challenged, otherwise you would have jumped on it right away. I continue to believe that, and that you aren;t adult enought to admit to it.
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littlejohn,
Prove that I did not read the cfp column before I posted about it.
And prove that I did not also read the Snopes column.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/firstlady.asp
“However, it’s grossly inaccurate to claim that the current First Lady has hired “an unprecedented number of staffers,” or to assert (as stated in the anonymously tacked-on final paragraph) that First Lady Laura Bush had but a single staffer working for her.”
Just checking in before retiring for the night.
Cosmos=
You know I can;t prove it one way or another. , and I didn;t state it as fact, I stated it was my opinon. Besides, you can’t prove you did. SO big fn deal.
Again,
Frankly my dear, I don;t give a damn.
I;ve said all I am going to. YOu want to carry on, do so by your lonely little self. I am sure you can amuse yourself. Your arguments are specious at best, and boring and listless at the worst, showing a willingness to be either be willfully ignorant or willfully lying. Nobody else cares one way or another. But do carry on.
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okobserver
Posted November 2, 2009 at 8:52 pm | Permalink
Not to change the subject but has anyone here been on Hwy 400 lately and encountered the turnabout at Ferdonia? What a mess. Is something like that even legal on a major highway. It it is should it be?
I can see a semi coming upon that monstrosity in the dark and barreling through it.
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A roundabout was installed at the junction of US-77 and US-50 at Florence, Ks. That intersection had been plagued for years with fatal accidents. Since the installation of the roundabout I don’t believe there has been a single fatality. The first time or two it seems sort of strange but most people get the hang of it pretty quick.
I don’t worry much about truckers when I travel the highways, they are professionals. It’s the infrequent travelers you really need to worry about.
Just curious, but has JM now set a record for most posts in consecutive days – most consecutive days posting – most 24/7 posting days – most days as a man without a life other than WEBlog?
Curious minds want to know……………….
“okobserver” notes –
“…Bryan, Texas…the same town where the Virgin Mary was recently discovered in bird droppings….”
You’d think they’d have changed the newspapers in her cage.
Amway,
“Truthfully, I don’t support free anything.”
And yet truthfully, you are if you own insurance. Your premiums go to pay for other’s healthcare just as you hope theirs will someday go for yours in this giant ponzi scheme the insurance industry has become.
In a public, single-payer system it isn’t free either. Each citizen pays a percentage of his income for the privilege of getting healthcare when it’s needed. And without the middlemen taking a generous helping for themselves out of it. You may prefer to call it a tax rather than a premium, but it all comes out of the same pocket no matter what it’s called.
Monk,
“You’d think they’d have changed the newspapers in her cage.”
And what? Throw out the holy sh*t? Blasphemer!
American_Way
Posted November 2, 2009 at 7:29 pm | Permalink
Hey Chas, just saw your question.
My answer is the government shouldn’t force you to buy a gun either. They should just give you one.
Does that answer your question?
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American_Way
Posted November 2, 2009 at 8:50 pm | Permalink
Truthfully, I don’t support free anything. Not free guns. Not free cheese.
I certainly do not support forcing Americans to buy anything, including guns or healthcare.
Likewise, I should not be FORCED to fund their healthcare either.
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AmWay changes his mind fequently. LOL
I wonder if the “I don’t recalls” were normalized to how many hours of questioning who’d be the winner, I think Cheney would probably take home the prize.
littlejohn posted November 2, 2009 at 10:11 pm
You know I can;t prove it one way or another. , and I didn;t state it as fact, I stated it was my opinon. Besides, you can’t prove you did. SO big fn deal.
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littlejohn,
I don’t see any type of “IMO” in your post — you stated your opinion as a fact.
littlejohn
Posted November 2, 2009 at 12:36 pm | Permalink
Heckler,
Thanks for showing that Cosmos doesn;t read the provided links before passing judgement on the source.
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littlejohn,
You based your attack and insults on me on your “opinion” — so it’s your responsibility to prove that your “opinion” is based on accurate facts.
And my earlier post was accurate:
“Thank you for helping to prove that the conservative web site canadafreepress is not a credible source.”
Gore Denies He Is Profiting From Global Warming
“Of course I invest according to my beliefs and values,” former Vice President Gore said in response to claims he is profiting from climate change. “I put my money where my mouth is,” he added.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/11/03/gore_denies_he_is_profiting_from_global_warming.html
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Gore invests to loose money?????
Watch out Nobel laureate Al Gore. Just LOOK at the forces against doing the right thing! “Regular”, Freebird! DON!
The legion of dumb.
•BlueJay
Posted November 3, 2009 at 10:04 am | Permalink
Watch out Nobel laureate Al Gore. Just LOOK at the forces against doing the right thing! “Regular”, Freebird! DON!
The legion of dumb.
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BJ, If you’re so smart, why is your kid on welfare?
Squwak Blue Jay squwak, maybe some day someone will take you seriously.
Don’t hold your breath.