Registered?
Commenting on WE Blog now requires you to be a Kansas.com member. Use the links above to register, if you haven't already, or to log in.Contact us
Follow us
Daily Archives
-
Recent Comments
- Regular on ACORN stole election?
- Monkeyhawk on ACORN stole election?
- Monkeyhawk on Open thread 11/21
- cosmos_originally on ACORN stole election?
- American_Way on Open thread 11/21
- American_Way on ACORN stole election?
- Blaidd_Drwg69 on Open thread 11/21
- American_Way on Open thread 11/21
- American_Way on Open thread 11/21
- Blaidd_Drwg69 on ACORN stole election?
358 Comments
From RealClearPolitics
“It’s going to take some time to deconstruct this lengthy masterpiece, but as you flip through the pages of the House bill, you will notice the word “regulation” appears 181 times. “Tax” is there 214 times. “Fees,” 103 times. As we all know, nothing says “affordability” like higher taxes and fees.
The word “shall” – as in “must” or “required to” – appears over 3,000 times. The word, alas, is never preceded by the patriotic phrase “mind our own freaking business.” Not once.”
It’s not about health care people. It’s about control and power.
Nancy Pelosi doesnt give a rats ash if B.J. gets timely rectal exams. She just wants him to be indebted to her.
Even France, one of the most liberal, socialized countries in Europe is being force to rein in their social programs or go broke!
Obama and the Dim’ocrats need to take a lesson!
Sarkozy to act over pensions shortfall
“President Nicolas Sarkozy will next year press ahead with measures to make people work longer for their pensions to reform France’s cash-strapped retirement system, according to a senior official.
But the French official told the Financial Times: “There will be a decision. I have no doubt about that. It is unavoidable.”
The pensions shortfall in the social security system is forecast to hit €10.7bn in 2010 and is growing rapidly.
Gilles Moëc, senior economist at Deutsche Bank, said the issue was a litmus test of how serious French governments were in restoring public finances.”
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss
“In a case that raises questions about online journalism and privacy rights, the U.S. Department of Justice sent a formal request to an independent news site ordering it to provide details of all reader visits on a certain day.
The grand jury subpoena also required the Philadelphia-based Indymedia.us Web site “not to disclose the existence of this request” unless authorized by the Justice Department, a gag order that presents an unusual quandary for any news organization.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/09/taking_liberties/entry5595506.shtml?tag=mncol;txt
Bad, depressing news for the chicken little crowd:
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=national&year=2009&month=10&submitted=Get+Report
hehehehe
“Reports that President Obama has made a decision about Afghanistan are absolutely false. He has not received final options for his consideration, he has not reviewed those options with his national security team, and he has not made any decisions about resources. Any reports to the contrary are completely untrue and come from uninformed sources.”
Great. Just great.
Right ‘littlejohn’, BHO = Worst President EVER!
On this date, Nov 10th
1775 US Marine Corps established by Congress
1960 Senate passes landmark Civil Rights Bill, later signed by Eisenhower
1982, the newly finished Vietnam Veterans Memorial was opened to its first visitors in Washington, D.C
Notable Quotes
Before everything else, getting ready is the secret of success.
– Henry Ford
Odd Facts
Clinophobia is the fear of beds!
There are more than 10 million bricks in the Empire State Building!
Boxlock: Every country has had to worry over pension shortfalls. No cash flow projection is endless and has to be adjusted now and then. But notice he’s doing something to guarantee the plan rather than letting it go broke…. like you know where! Prudent people arrange to pay for things so putting away a few more francs for your old age makes sense to me. Another French speaking country did the same thing about a year ago. Go to http://www.newsweek.com/id/183670
“Regular” shares –
“Before everything else, getting ready is the secret of success.”
– Henry Ford
Sorta sums up President Obama’s approach to Afghanistan, which CONs endlessly carp on.
It’s not as if CONs are capable of consistency of thought processes.
How many billions is the PBGC short? You know the fund that picks up where corporations default on their obligations.
““Before everything else, getting ready is the secret of success.”
– Henry Ford
Sorta sums up President Obama’s approach to Afghanistan, which CONs endlessly carp on.”
Except he doesn;t. He had a plan during the campaign, he had a plan after an “extensive” review back in March. Now …according to the White House….He has no plan…he has not even finalized his options, or discussed them with his national security team.
Get a plan, man. Lead, follow,or get the hell out of the way.
bush could make an unwise illinformed decision in seconds! That’s what cons call leadership.
CONS CONS CONS CONS BUSH BUSH BUSH BUSH
The same old answer from the same old bloggers.
Monkeyhawk
Posted November 10, 2009 at 8:21 am | Permalink
“Regular” shares –
“Before everything else, getting ready is the secret of success.”
– Henry Ford
Sorta sums up President Obama’s approach to Afghanistan, which CONs endlessly carp on.
It’s not as if CONs are capable of consistency of thought processes.
————————————————–
The President remains the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces.
My opinion however is that since the days of having a President with any legitimate military experience (this includes GW), the best plan is to listen to your Generals and grant their wishes.
Obama is swimming in waters he can not possibly comprehend. He needs to check his politics at the door and either pull out or take the General’s recommendations. Me thinks he is too much of an egocentric to do that.
Right ’sursum’, thanks.
It is pretty funny the way the libtards on here defend obama’s lack of decisiveness. His lack of experience and inability to lead are staggering and yet the libtards still defend him to a fault.
McCrystal (sp?) was obama’s pick. Obama selected him, but he doesn’t trust the general’s recommendations? Speaks volumes.
I think this administration has installed a revolving door. With the catastrophic failures in staffing his cabinet, utter and complete lack of vetting and gross misjudgments, I guess I can’t blame him.
In the words of that great military strategist, Country Joe –
Well it’s 1 – 2- 3 –
What are we fightin’ for?
Unlike his predecessor, this Commander in Chief is asking that question.
Any of you WE Blog CONs have an answer?
LJ, that’s what happens when we elect a rookie. A few years as a community organizer, an incomplete term in the Senate and a way with words may be enough to get elected, but they aren’t enough to do the job.
Experience counts. He had none.
And here we are.
GMC70-
Sadly, I have to agree.
Unlike his predecessor, this Commander in Chief is asking that question.
If I believed that was the case, MH, I might agree with you. I don’t.
President Obama, March, 2009
“Good morning,” began the President today. “Today, I am announcing a comprehensive, new strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan. And this marks the conclusion of a careful policy review, led by Bruce [Reidel], that I ordered as soon as I took office.”
Read the White Paper on the new policy (pdf) >>
Read the One-pager on the new elements in the policy >>
The President stressed the perilous position we find ourselves in there, and the threat that would arise should safe havens on Pakistan go unchallenged or should the government in Afghanistan fall to the Taliban again. He also noted that 2008 was the deadliest year to date in that war.
The President put forth the central question:
Many people in the United States — and many in partner countries that have sacrificed so much — have a simple question: What is our purpose in Afghanistan? After so many years, they ask, why do our men and women still fight and die there? And they deserve a straightforward answer.
And gave his answer:
So I want the American people to understand that we have a clear and focused goal: to disrupt, dismantle and defeat al Qaeda in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and to prevent their return to either country in the future. That’s the goal that must be achieved. That is a cause that could not be more just.
White House, November 2009
“CBS) Editor’s note, 9:57 p.m. EDT: The White House has issued the following response to this story, attributed to White House National Security Advisor James Jones:
“Reports that President Obama has made a decision about Afghanistan are absolutely false. He has not received final options for his consideration, he has not reviewed those options with his national security team, and he has not made any decisions about resources. Any reports to the contrary are completely untrue and come from uninformed sources.”"
Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way
Damn the torpedeos, full speed ahead, and having lost sight of our objective, we redoubled our efforts, and the legendary ‘bring ‘em on! Oh, for the good old days of leadershipness.
Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way. Isn’t that what the lemmings say on their mad march forward?
bush had experience.
Mostly at executing people.
How did that work out for us?
Monkeyhawk
Posted November 10, 2009 at 8:46 am | Permalink
In the words of that great military strategist, Country Joe –
Well it’s 1 – 2- 3 –
What are we fightin’ for?
wonder how many here remember when that song was popular?
And don’t forget the Fish cheer
Jul 21, 2008
“KABUL, Afghanistan (CNN) — Sen. Barack Obama said Sunday that United States needs to focus on Afghanistan in its battle against terrorism.
Sen. Barack Obama and Afghan President Hamid Karzai meet Sunday in Kabul.
“The Afghan government needs to do more. But we have to understand that the situation is precarious and urgent here in Afghanistan. And I believe this has to be our central focus, the central front, on our battle against terrorism,” Obama said Sunday on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”
“I think one of the biggest mistakes we’ve made strategically after 9/11 was to fail to finish the job here, focus our attention here. We got distracted by Iraq,” he said.”
“We need a sense of urgency and determination. We need urgency because the threat from the Taliban and al Qaeda is growing and we must act; we need determination because it will take time to prevail. ”
November 2009
“He has not received final options for his consideration, he has not reviewed those options with his national security team, and he has not made any decisions about resources”
Poor Phantom-
All he can do is mutter mostly irrevelant sayings about others, but he can;t logically support his choice for Commander in Chief.
I see that one of the DC snipers is scheduled for exection. No tears for him here.
Sorry, I misstateed that. Phantom can’t support President Obama’s plan for Afghanistan……. Because he doesn;t have one. So, for Phantom, far better to attack someone else.
Well President Obama still has seven years to get Osama bin Laden.
george w. bush had that amount of time too.
He didn’t get bin Laden. Probably, he didn’t want to.
But we have to understand that the situation is precarious and urgent here in Afghanistan.
Funny, I don’t see a sense of urgency in obama. Seems he blew off his selection to lead the effort. Did he make yet another bad personnel selection?
He doesn’t seem to trust those he put in place.
Bush was too busy getting Sadaam to worry about bin Laden. Interesting that during the Bush years Afghanistan was the forgotten war now it seems the forgotten war is in Iraq.
Obama is correct focusing on Afghanistan just wish he would decide what he is going to do there.
Speaking of Afghanistan…
http://www.alternet.org/story/143819/pentagon_pouring_your_money_into_afghanistan:_are_they_preparing_for_a_very_long_war
1 + year ago:
“We need a sense of urgency and determination. We need urgency because the threat from the Taliban and al Qaeda is growing and we must act; we need determination because it will take time to prevail. ”
Today:
“and he has not made any decisions about resources”
He just keeps getting worse and worse.
But he did have his “date night”.
“wonder how many here remember when that song was popular?” [Freebird, in ref. to Country Joe & the Fish]
Sure… Summer of 1969…
“But he did have his “date night”.”
Don’t forget the ‘Links’. Of course, Michelle being female was not invited to these games.
One more thought… WHY would the USA CIC want to go out to the podium EVERY DAY and publicly divulge what his PLAN will be for Afghanistan???
When playing chess, do you normally tell your opponent what your strategy is going to be before you make your move??
Does anybody bi*chi*g about Obama’s time line on Afghanistan have anything to offer by way of Suggestions??? Or is it just biach… biach… biach… ad nauseum??
Damn Chas we are getting old.
WHY would the USA CIC want to go out to the podium EVERY DAY and publicly divulge what his PLAN will be for Afghanistan???
===================================
Once a year might be nice…..
Sol-
Not only has he not made any decision, he hasn;t even finalized his options,or discussed any final options with his national security team.
I thought he had a plan.
“Freebird1971″ –
I dropped my throw-away e-dress on one of last night’s thread.
Dunno if you saw it & haven’t checked if you’ve responded.
And to the rest of you WE Blog CONs –
“What’re we fightin’ for?”
Hud — Please to remember that at least one female was in the golfing group with Obama… Does Michelle even play the game??
Chas
Posted November 10, 2009 at 9:32 am | Permalink
Does anybody bi*chi*g about Obama’s time line on Afghanistan have anything to offer by way of Suggestions??? Or is it just biach… biach… biach… ad nauseum??
Just my opinion but I think he needs to go with what his commanders on the ground suggest what needs to be done ASAp.
It may well be he’s delaying to give Pakistan time to take out their homegrown al-quida, before moving on the afghan al-quida. Divide and conquer. Guess since he’s CIC with access to intel and info the rest of America isn’t, we’ll just have to give him the benefit of the doubt. At least that used to be the line of argument during a previous admin.
ANTI wants our “enemy” to know the strategy… Real good there, ANTI…
ANTI wants our “enemy” to know the strategy… Real good there, ANTI…
Yes Chas, I have a suggestion
Either schitt or get off the pot.
Clear enough for you?
WHY would the USA CIC want to go out to the podium EVERY DAY and publicly divulge what his PLAN will be for Afghanistan??? ”
The WHITE HOUSE SAYS___
“He has not received final options for his consideration, he has not reviewed those options with his national security team, and he has not made any decisions about resources”
That doesn;t sound like he’s getting on the podium ANY day and divulging what his PLAN will be for Afghanistan…inthe words of the WHITE HOUSE…He hasn;t even finalized his options.
Yes Chas, I have a suggestion
Either schitt or get off the pot.
Clear enough for you?
WHY would the USA CIC want to go out to the podium EVERY DAY and publicly divulge what his PLAN will be for Afghanistan??? ”
The WHITE HOUSE SAYS___
“He has not received final options for his consideration, he has not reviewed those options with his national security team, and he has not made any decisions about resources”
That doesn;t sound like he’s getting on the podium ANY day and divulging what his PLAN will be for Afghanistan…inthe words of the WHITE HOUSE…He hasn;t even finalized his options.
WASHINGTON (CNN) – A new national poll indicates that more than seven out in 10 Republicans say they would seriously consider voting for Mike Huckabee for president in the next race for the White House, giving the former Arkansas governor more potential support than Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney, or any other Republican tested.
But the USA Today/Gallup survey released Wednesday morning also suggests that none of those potential Republican hopefuls could win the votes of a majority of all Americans if they won the GOP nomination in 2012.
Mh,
Got it,will be in touch soon,let you know when I do.
littlejohn
Posted November 10, 2009 at 9:36 am | Permalink
Yes Chas, I have a suggestion
Either schitt or get off the pot.
=============================
Agreed.
Then, Freebird, tell the commanders on the ground to get THEIR collective heads together, and make a recommendation… He is WAITING on their recommendations… Which, BTW, it was reported yesterday Obama didnt HAVE said recommendations…
I wish people would direct their frustrations in the appropriate directions… geez!!
MOnkeyHawk-
Presdient Obama answers your question
”
The President put forth the central question:
Many people in the United States — and many in partner countries that have sacrificed so much — have a simple question: What is our purpose in Afghanistan? After so many years, they ask, why do our men and women still fight and die there? And they deserve a straightforward answer.
And gave his answer:
So I want the American people to understand that we have a clear and focused goal: to disrupt, dismantle and defeat al Qaeda in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and to prevent their return to either country in the future. That’s the goal that must be achieved. That is a cause that could not be more just.”
“Chas
Posted November 10, 2009 at 9:39 am | Permalink
Then, Freebird, tell the commanders on the ground to get THEIR collective heads together, and make a recommendation… He is WAITING on their recommendations… Which, BTW, it was reported yesterday Obama didnt HAVE said recommendations…”
Umm Chas-
Don;t be ignorant. The Commander on the ground, chosen by President Obama, did make his recommendation. 40,000 more troops. Obama’s reply?……….
THe CG there told him what he needs to successfully prosecute the war,I would think he would nknow more about the situation than advisors at the White House. Does 40,000 more troops ring a bell?
“The WHITE HOUSE SAYS___
“He has not received final options for his consideration, he has not reviewed those options with his national security team, and he has not made any decisions about resources”
========================================
DUH… HOW can the man review options that he does not YET have??? Are you biachers now asking for psychic mind reading abilities as well???
Chas-
Now that youi’ve turned stupid and not just ignorant, it’s time to ignore your rantings. Thanks for playing though.
I wish people would direct their frustrations in the appropriate directions… geez!!
Physician heal thyself
Chas-
Now that youi’ve turned stupid and not just ignorant, it’s time to ignore your rantings. Thanks for playing though.
L-J —- I think you arent reading the wording in your own posts… See my post above… ONE of the possibilities proposed by ONE adviser is 40K troops…. JUST ONE so far…
chass,
Oh little naïve one, you are always good for a laugh. Is it really possible for one to be this uninformed? And to post your ignorance on a public blog? That is either really ballsy, or… just ignorant.
You are always good for a laugh though. And a prime example of the slobbering sheeple still awash in the obama dog and pony show.
Seems to me, more and more, obama is all hat and no cattle.
Chas
Posted November 10, 2009 at 9:39 am | Permalink
Then, Freebird, tell the commanders on the ground to get THEIR collective heads together, and make a recommendation
Uh, they have and they did.
Please show where I come off as frustrated. You asked a question and I gave my opinion. What frustrates you is I didn’t go along with your line of thinnking,whatever that may be.
“Freebird1971″ posits –
“I think he needs to go with what his commanders on the ground suggest what needs to be done ASAp.”
To what end?
What do we WIN if we win in Afghanistan?
At what cost.
McChrystal has been given a mission and, as any good military man, has assessed what he thinks is necessary for that mission.
President Obama inherited that mission and has the wisdom to take a half-step back and assess what that mission might achieve. And ask if the victory is worth the cost.
I’ve posted many times my opinion Afghanistan is not about Afghanistan, but about the Islamic nukes in Pakistan.
To me, that’s the only question.
Yeah, the Taliban were and are pretty awful. But they’re there and the rest of the world isn’t. Opium poppies and women’s rights are mitigating factors but, again, at what cost to the American military.
Any of you CONs have an opinion?
Nah. You’d rather rag on the President of the United States in hopes of some kind of political edge.
I think all of you gripers would all flunk out in a course on CEO 101… You know what I wish?? i wish EVERY ONE of you people constantly belly-aching about what Obama does, or Doesnt do could be gifted with a ONE DAY PASS to follow the man around… from the time he gets up, until he goes to bed that night…
I’m serious… I really wish you could… I think every one of you would come away from such an experience in total disarray…
MH,
I wasn’t ragging on anyone a question was asked and I gave my opinion. I would think that if Afghanistan is secured it would make an excellent jumping of point to go after Al quieda in Pahkistan.
Do any of you have any idea what time this man had to get up this morning, to get himself and his staff ready to fly out to Ft. Hood for the ceremonies there???
I honestly dont know why ANY man/woman, would actually WANT to be POTUS (or head of state of ANY country, for that matter).
Chas asks for opinions and then goes postal when people have the audacity to give them. Just sayin if you dont want an answer don’t ask a question.
All hat. No cattle.
One
Big
Ass
Mistake,
America
““The WHITE HOUSE SAYS___
“He has not received final options for his consideration, he has not reviewed those options with his national security team, and he has not made any decisions about resources””
=================================================
ONE of you CONS posted this quote…. Now, you gonna stay with the quote, or you gonna keep calling ME ignorant???
Chas
Posted November 10, 2009 at 9:53 am | Permalink
Do any of you have any idea what time this man had to get up this morning, to get himself and his staff ready to fly out to Ft. Hood for the ceremonies there???
Chas,
He wanted the job he got it,no sympathy here for him. My sympathy is reserved for people who deserve it,like the Ft Hood families
As I already said… How do you tin hats expect Obama to make a decision on information that HE DOESNT EVEN HAVE YET???
Personally, I dont want ANY President making a unilateral decision on a matter of this degree of importance… I dont think any of you do either….
Chas,
40,000 more troops
Chas,
It’s been a year. It is time for Obama to quit making excuses and put his big boy pants on.
Freebird1971
Posted November 10, 2009 at 9:55 am | Permalink
Chas asks for opinions and then goes postal when people have the audacity to give them. Just sayin if you dont want an answer don’t ask a question.
===========================================
Freeb… Yours is the only opinion I have seen so far… The rest is all snark and screed… especially from Sol…
“Do any of you have any idea what time this man had to get up this morning, to get himself and his staff ready to fly out to Ft. Hood for the ceremonies there???
I honestly dont know why ANY man/woman, would actually WANT to be POTUS (or head of state of ANY country, for that matter).
”
Chas- I know I said I was going to ignore you, but ARE YOU FREAKIN KIDDING ME? He goes to do his responsibility after thirteen people are killed and 30 injured and you worry about how early had to gt up? You have GOT to be kidding me. Chas- go home, wherever that is. You have no clue. Back to ignoring you again
he has not reviewed those options with his national security team
Why not? He got a recommendation from his (his) selected leader on the ground. Why has he not discussed this with his security team? He has had more than a year to discuss strategy. He has a recommendation from his leader on the ground and he still hasn’t discussed this with his security team?
Fail
and he has not made any decisions about resources
He had big ideas when he was on the trail. Has he ever realized he is off the trail now? That it is time to act and not just make speeches? He has had more than a year now. Why can’t he make a decision?
Can he make a decision and stick by it?
Fail
All hat. No cattle.
Freebird,
Reminder
11 Nov 2009, Wednesday
09:30 a.m. Toc’s
Reg,
Looking forward to it.
““The WHITE HOUSE SAYS___
“He has not received final options for his consideration, he has not reviewed those options with his national security team, and he has not made any decisions about resources””
=================================================
SOL…
““The WHITE HOUSE SAYS___
“He has not received final options for his consideration, he has not reviewed those options with his national security team, and he has not made any decisions about resources””
=================================================
SOL…
SOL… CAN YOU READ THAT POST???
HOW DO YOU EXPECT HIM TO MAKE A DECISION ON INFORMATION HE DOES NOT HAVE YET???</B
chass,
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/11/open-thread-1110-2/#comment-692524
Sol-
Just ignore him, maybe he will go away. Why bother, you know he will never admit he was wrong, or does so so infrequently that it is nearly the same as never. it’s just not worth the effort.
l-j WHAT IS IT YOU ARE SNARKING ABOUT NOW??
WOULD YOU WANT TO BE POTUS??? THE MAN’S SCHEDULE IS MIND NUMBING, WHETHER IT IS TO PRESIDE AT THIS MEMORIAL SERVICE IN TEXAS TODAY, OR JUST TO PLAY A ROUND OF GOLF…
PLEASE NOTICE I SAID FAIRLY PLAINLY, I DONT KNOW WHY ANY MAN OR WOMAN WOULD WANT TO BE POTUS, OR ANY OTHER HEAD OF STATE….
NOW, DO YOU THINK YOU COULD POSSIBLY STAY FOCUSED ON WHAT I SAID, INSTEAD OF WHAT YOU WANT ME TO SAY??? PLEASE???
chass,
Your stroke finger is loose again. It has been more than a year now. Why has your messiah failed to compile a plan? Why has he not yet taken action? He has had the time and still hasn’t had discussions? He has the recommendation from his chosen commander in theater. Are you just too stupid to understand this?
obama + Afghanistan = Epic fail, America.
Roger that LJ. Another cosmo case.
Obama: all hat, no cattle.
chass,
Your stroke finger is loose. You take your meds today?
HLP posted November 10, 2009 at 7:22 am
Bad, depressing news for the chicken little crowd:
————————–
Hank,
Please explain why you seem to believe that the U.S., with less than 2 percent of Earth’s surface area, = “GLOBAL“.
And try to explain it rationally, without using personal insults.
Just so we get this straight…
If Obama chooses to NOT send more troops, my hunch is you will chastise him for not winning the war…
And if he does send more troops, you will them gripe and complain, because more American lives will likely be lost….
Is that pretty much it??? You are wanting to make sure you have the proper rants all set and ready to post, eh?? LOL
For those who do not check out that blog that causing concern for some here.
I posted this yesterday but it is as much about the effort in Afghanistan as it was about the death of Pat Tillman. I have put ** at the point where I address Afghanistan:
Tillman to me was a cosmic warning of this is not going to be good.
He was the real life of the comic strip hero “Flash Gordon” tall, blond, handsome, muscular and stand alone heroic. The very emblem of what we want in a great American hero, the image of the American Soldier.
While the actually image is short and everyday on the outside those traits of Flash Gordon are held within.
When the news of Pat Tillman’s death came it was almost symbolic of the American effort was dying.
As we now know that in deed was the truth, the effort to get Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda was dead.
The feeling I had deep inside at the news was just that, this was a cosmic warning sign.
Yes the efforts in Afghanistan is as the saying goes, “ A day late and a Dollar short!”.
One of the things that contributed to the invasion of Iraq was Bush’s desire to finish the job started by his father. He lacked the common sense his father had about why he stopped the push to Baghdad in the first Gulf war. G.W. was anger about the voices condemning his father for stopping. Those voices were mainly the Neo-Conservatives.
**Now we are seeming stuck with that same feelings, the job was not done and the compulsion is to finish it.
But the problem is that that house has already burnt to the ground and we still feel that we need to have the fire department come. I will use the same example again, “Afghanistan is a pothole on the most remote road that no one ever drives down. Even if we repair it, what good is it is still the most remote road that no one drives down!”. Al-Qaeda was living in that pothole but has since moved and not likely to be welcome back to their old pothole.
It is actually hard for me to say, the people of Afghanistan still live there and are not as well off as they should be. “The only way for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing!“
But there is no point in keep trying to fill the pothole… let’s leave.**
Atta boy chass. Keep that stroke finger under control. Meds kicking in?
“It has been more than a year now.” [SOL]
First.. the caps were quite intentional… seems you all cant read what was posted by one of your OWN….
Second… Sol, which Calendar are you using?? Obama was sworn into office in January of THIS year… A little more than NINE months ago… Do learn to count… it really does help with the discussion…
Another one bites the dust;
Dunn leaving White House
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/white-house/dunn-leaving-white-house-pfeif.html
WriterDog-
While I feel no need to agree or disagree with several of your points, I really just want the President of the United States to make a decision and carry it out. I do not know if it is the right thing to do to stay, or to leave. I do know just standing still is getting people killed for nothing. THe President stated “Many people in the United States — and many in partner countries that have sacrificed so much — have a simple question: What is our purpose in Afghanistan? After so many years, they ask, why do our men and women still fight and die there? And they deserve a straightforward answer.”
That statememt was made in March after a “comprehensive review” I am still waiting
chass,
Do you think the president elect is kept in the dark right up until he is sworn in?
Do you not remember obama’s (apparent) rhetoric re Afghanistan while campaigning?
Lets go by your dates chass, why has the president and CIC let 9 months go by without having the Afghanistan discussions? Golf more of a priority? Well, he did have to decide where to go on date night. Oh yeah, and the white house pet. Priorities priorities.
President Obamas answer in March, 2009
“So I want the American people to understand that we have a clear and focused goal: to disrupt, dismantle and defeat al Qaeda in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and to prevent their return to either country in the future. That’s the goal that must be achieved. That is a cause that could not be more just.”
President Obamas answer in November 2009
“I don;t know”
Nice.
L-J …. your answer there from March seems to be what we are now doing… Now, he doesnt know whether its best to “stay the course”(echos of GWB) or take off in some new direction….
And WHEN he has received what he is currently WAITING to receive… then he can make a studied, informed decision… based on his commanders on the ground, AND with the National Security Staff… After all, it does seem to be a matter of National Security…
Question —
Would any one of you ranting CONS want the sole, singular, responsibility/accountability for making this decision that you are ragging on Obama about??
Remember… he is no more or less of a Citizen of this nation that YOU are…
Question for the Death Penalty proponents:
Is this execution set for tonight in Virginia FAST enough for you?? Hey, it isnt 20 years on this one… Just sayin….
White House Leans Toward Sending More Than 30,000 Troops to Afghanistan
Fox News
————————
Wonder if any Muslims will be in that group?
Might be wise to have soldiers show up in shorts and t-shirts so ‘things’ can’t be hidden.
Metal detectors at the doorways?
…just saying
cosmos_originally
Posted November 10, 2009 at 10:27 am | Permalink
HLP posted November 10, 2009 at 7:22 am
Bad, depressing news for the chicken little crowd:
————————–
Hank,
Please explain why you seem to believe that the U.S., with less than 2 percent of Earth’s surface area, = “GLOBAL“.
__________________
CosMao,
Please explain why you seem to believe that the Antarctic peninsula, which is less than 10 percent of Antarctica’s surface area, = “Global”.
Please explain why you seem to believe that the U.S., with less than 2 percent of Earth’s surface area, = “GLOBAL“.
———————————–
How many ocean dwelling nations are you aware of cosMAO?
As far as I know there is no floating Atlantis-like nations out there.
er ‘ocean nations with populations
donndublin,
I never said that the Antarctic Peninsula = “Global”.
cosmos_originally
Posted November 6, 2009 at 12:27 pm | Permalink
donndublin posted November 6, 2009 at 11:44 am
Cosmao only focuses on 10% of Anartica and ignors the other 90% which growing. Once again he covers his ears and sings la la la.
——————————–
donndublin,
If you were not so [long insulting list omitted] you would know that what is currently happening in mainland Antarctica was predicted years ago by the first climate models.
Antarctica is surrounded by a deep ocean — water warms slower than land. Most land is in the Northern hemisphere.
Antarctica is isolated by circumpolar wind patterns.
AGW is increasing moisture levels, which can increase snowfall.
The Antarctic Peninsula is in a different climate situation than the mainland.
Global Warming Predictions Invalidated
Submitted by Doug L. Hoffman on Thu, 11/05/2009 – 13:39
A new study in the journal Science has just shown that all of the climate modeling results of the past are erroneous. The IPCC’s modeling cronies have just been told that the figures used for greenhouse gas forcings are incorrect, meaning none of the model results from prior IPCC reports can be considered valid.
http://tinyurl.com/yll2q3a
The issue of Afghanistan has gone pass the issue of revenge or getting the SOB.
That boat left the dock in 2003, now the issue is should we just admit that and move on.
Its like I used the house burning down, the house that is on fire now is next door but the fire department can not go to that house. So since something needs to be done we are sending the fire department to the house that burn to the ground already?
Chas
Posted November 10, 2009 at 10:57 am | Permalink
Question for the Death Penalty proponents:
Is this execution set for tonight in Virginia FAST enough for you?? Hey, it isnt 20 years on this one… Just sayin….
no
And thus it begins.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/10/senate-panel-conducting-hasan-probe-warned-homegrown-threat/
Everywhere we look, everywhere we are, we must be scared. No terrified.
Please government, please save us.
This country is DEAD unless people stop and think for a minute.
All that is needed is a pretext…that little spark. And they’ll make sure that whatever is needed to convince the dumb masses that they need protected, they will get.
Chas,
If you are looking for sympathy for obama you will find it between s**t and syp hillis in the dictionary
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13290698/The-Modern-Militia-MovementMissouri-MIAC-Strategic-Report-20Feb09-
http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf
A few quotes from our modern governmental mentors Joseph Goebbels and Herman Goering, respectively:
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
“Naturally the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
SolDevVB
Posted November 10, 2009 at 10:38 am | Permalink
chass,
Do you think the president elect is kept in the dark right up until he is sworn in?
Do you not remember obama’s (apparent) rhetoric re Afghanistan while campaigning?
Lets go by your dates chass, why has the president and CIC let 9 months go by without having the Afghanistan discussions? Golf more of a priority? Well, he did have to decide where to go on date night. Oh yeah, and the white house pet. Priorities priorities.
You forgot to include the apology tour
Pleefer: keeping the Nazi tradition alive…
Sol-
That can’t be right. COsmos tells me so, every single day. Science must not be a peer reviewed journal, and I am sue the author must be a paid shill for the petroleum industry. humph!
Sol-
That can’t be right. COsmos tells me so, every single day. Science must not be a peer reviewed journal, and I am sue the author must be a paid shill for the petroleum industry. humph!
On related issue and about sending Muslims to fight in a Muslim nation.
If the day comes when we are at war with Israel, would it be such an outlandish issue of not sending soldiers of the Jewish faith to fight?
By and large we separate religious beliefs from national defense and serving in the military.
The war with Israel is not about a war against Jews as it would be against another country.
But then how would a Jewish soldier view it?
Patriotism and religious faith are two of the strongest influences and motivations for sacrifice.
If there was a country that is the home land and totally the Christian faith was the guiding factor.
How many Christians would be willing to separate their religious faith from their national duties?
Which would they decide to defend or fight against?
‘Improved Attribution of Climate Forcing to Emissions ‘
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/326/5953/716
Patience grasshoppers, Obama’s zeroing in:
“ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE – The White House says President Barack Obama has narrowed down his decision for an Afghanistan strategy to four options.
Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says the president will discuss those options with his national security team on Wednesday. Gibbs did not provide any details about the options, and says the president’s decision on troop deployments is still weeks away.
littlejohn,
Publication in a peer-reviewed journal is an intermediate step — other scientists then scrutinize and retest what was published.
Writerdog-
On the other hand, shooting other people up is not the answer, whether or not you agree. As an officer, If I recall correctly, he could resign his commision just about anytime. He may have signed an agreement when he furthered his education, I don;t know. In reality,
I grew up during the Viet Nam conflict in a community of primarily Mennonite people. The majority of them abhorred violence, and eschewed taking part in the conflict. SOme filed CO status, some went to jail for their moral convictions about violence (which, before anybody starts–I was in disagreement with), some served in the national interests in other ways. I admired them for the adherence to their beliefs. None, however,took up a gum and started shooting people. I don;t see a moral equivalence here.
Glad to see they’re working on reform, no thanks to the party of no.
By Kevin Drawbaugh Kevin Drawbaugh – 53 mins ago
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The chairman of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee introduced a financial regulation reform bill on Tuesday that leaps beyond earlier proposals, calling for new government agencies on financial stability, bank supervision and financial consumer protection.
Senator Christopher Dodd, a Democrat, released the bill after intense closed-door negotiations, raising the ante in a debate over tighter bank and capital market regulation that has been going on for months since last year’s financial crisis.
The measure was expected to win little or no support from Republicans, setting the stage for still more debate ahead, with analysts expecting no final Senate action until 2010.
Dodd, who faces a tough re-election challenge next year in his home state of Connecticut, called in his bill for a new super bank regulator, as expected, to be called the Financial Institutions Regulatory Administration, or FIRA.
The new agency would consolidate the bank supervisory powers of four current regulators and abolish the Office of Thrift Supervision and the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp and the Federal Reserve would lose their roles as direct bank supervisors.
The Dodd bill goes further than earlier proposals from the Obama administration and one under development in the House. Both seek more modest centralization of bank supervision.
Dodd’s bill also calls for creating a financial stability agency. Previous proposals have focused on establishing a council of existing regulators to police systemic risks.
FIRST PLAN FOR INSURANCE OVERSIGHT
The Dodd bill would establish a National Insurance Office, which would be the first attempt by the federal government to monitor the insurance industry. The House and administration proposals have taken similar approaches.
As expected, Dodd’s bill backs the administration’s call for creating a Consumer Financial Protection Agency. The bill proposes that it be funded through fees charged to banks with $10 billion or more in assets and that the Federal Reserve transfer money annually to the agency.
The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp would be the primary agency for unwinding troubled financial firms, with the use of a “systemic resolution fund,” under the bill. The cost of dismantling troubled companies would be recouped afterward through assessments on other financial firms.
The House of Representatives is on track for a final vote on financial regulation reform before the end of the year.
The House Financial Services Committee has already approved measures on credit rating agency oversight, derivatives market regulation and consumer protection. In July, the full House approved a bill to put new curbs on executive pay.
In June, the administration released more than a dozen proposals for financial regulation reform, with the aim of preventing a repeat of last year’s financial crisis.
“How many Christians would be willing to separate their religious faith from their national duties?
Which would they decide to defend or fight against?”
[writerdog]
Dog… THAT is an excellent question… and one that we have been involved with several times in our history…
Check out “The War Prayer” by Mark Twain
In fact, WriterDog, Germany was primarily a Christian nation in character, independent of it’s government, which while claiming to be many things, in my view, was not Christian anything. Just my point of view
Ironic, the major wanted out, now if he’s not executed he’ll spend the rest of his life in the military prison. Doubt the other prisoners will show him much love.
He’d tried to resign but had a 6 yr. obligation for his training.
cosmos_originally
Posted November 10, 2009 at 10:27 am | Permalink
HLP posted November 10, 2009 at 7:22 am
Bad, depressing news for the chicken little crowd:
————————–
Hank,
Please explain why you seem to believe that the U.S., with less than 2 percent of Earth’s surface area, = “GLOBAL“.
cosmos_originally
Posted November 10, 2009 at 11:18 am | Permalink
donndublin,
I never said that the Antarctic Peninsula = “Global”.
——————
Where did hank say that U.S. = “Global”.
Once again you’ve taken hypocracy to a “higher level of consciousness”.
Since you avoided it yesterday, why don’t you explain how the article Sol posted is “misrepresented”.
“Pleefer: keeping the Nazi tradition alive…”-DavidB
====================================================
Hahahaha, nice ‘un.
No, rather, it’s Obama keeping the 4th Reich alive and well.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/09/taking_liberties/entry5595506.shtml?tag=mncol;txt
Nice try at the spin, ya douche.
Global means every square inch of the globe.
Global warming would indicate that every square inch of the globe is warming.
It is not, large portions are cooling, so sad for cosmao.
Va Gov denies clemency for DC sniper,good on the gov.
Pleefer — Please enlighten us — What freedoms have you lost due to Obama?? Or for that matter, in your lifetime??
Chas
Posted November 10, 2009 at 11:51 am | Permalink
“How many Christians would be willing to separate their religious faith from their national duties?
Which would they decide to defend or fight against?”
[writerdog]
Dog… THAT is an excellent question… and one that we have been involved with several times in our history…
——————–
Chas you and dog seem to have wandered off the reservation. There are many here with opinions that disagree with you so at the risk of ruffling your feathers – the man is a cold blooded murderer. End of story. It has nothing to do with his ‘deeply held’ religious beliefs.
He chose to make himself judge and jury over dozens of people who had absolutely nothing to do with his leaving or staying in the military.
We have been told there are over one hundred thousand muslims in the US military. So are you two brains telling us we should put all of these in prison so they won’t do the same thing?
Many Christian Mennonites as LJ pointed out do serve. Maybe not on the front line but they serve their country as their belief allows.
While not a dealth penalty advocate I will suspend my views for this man and the Carr brothers.
Many Christian Mennonites as LJ pointed out do serve. Maybe not on the front line but they serve their country as their belief allows
OK,
If I remember history a lot of those people did serve on the front lines as medics and ambulance drivers.
Arctic Aerosols Indicate Melting Ice Not Caused By CO2
Submitted by Doug L. Hoffman on Mon, 04/27/2009 – 11:30
NASA researchers report that much of the atmospheric warming observed in the Arctic since 1976 may be due to changes in tiny airborne particles called aerosols. Though greenhouse gases are invariably blamed for global climate change, and the shrinking Arctic ice cover in particular, this new research indicates that as much as half the warming in the Arctic can be attributed to sort lived particulate pollution—basically soot. Unlike the dreaded gas, CO2, aerosols do not stay in the atmosphere very long, suggesting that the effects of any warming caused by aerosols would quickly be reversed if their emissions ceased.
Meanwhile, the UK’s The Register speculates that Dr Shindell’s position at NASA’s Goddard Institute must now be a potentially stressful one. “His boss, Dr James Hansen, is more or less the father of the carbon-driven global warming menace,” the online edition reported, “[h]e won’t be pleased at the suggestion that carbon emissions may not be such an overriding concern after all.” Politics and personal prejudice interfering with government sponsored research? Sadly, there is nothing new in that.
http://theresilientearth.com/?q=content/arctic-aerosols-indicate-melting-ice-not-caused-co2
—————
Cosmao, Since most of these arosols are coming from China, tell your commrades to quit killing the polar bear.
Freebird1971-
You are correct. I think OK was thinking as warrior types when she said that they didn;t serve on the front lines. I could be wrong, but that is what I thought. IN any case, many did serve as medics and ambulance folk. There were some, however, whom I personally knew, that felt even that was supporting the war effor. They refused. There were many different positions taken.
Freebird1971
Posted November 10, 2009 at 12:17 pm | Permalink
Many Christian Mennonites as LJ pointed out do serve. Maybe not on the front line but they serve their country as their belief allows
OK,
If I remember history a lot of those people did serve on the front lines as medics and ambulance drivers.
————————–
Or joined the Air Force – outside of Cops, Para-Rescue, Pilots, Co-Pilots, Navigators and Forward Air Controls, GunShip crewmen – there are no “front line” combat specialities.
Free you and LJ are right. I was thinking of their belief on violence. I have studied the Amish and Mennonites and find them to be just what they say they are. To serve as medics would be something they probably feel right doing. Many would volunteer to work in third world countries helping the improvished. In this way they do their duty to their country.
My point to chas and dog was we are spending all of this time wondering ‘why he did it’ instead of seeing him as the animal he is/was when he carried out this well planned attacks on innocents. Who cares about his justification in his sick mind. Why do the libs alway give the benefit of the doubt to such as this and condem other who are just doing what they think is right like killing someone they think is killing innocents.
And no I don’t support Tillers killer – but he thought he was stopping the killing of helpless babies – or so he said. Where is the lefts compassion?
Alison Lesch, 19, of Auburn, IN faces a charge of attempted murder for abandoning her newborn daughter in a garbage bag in a garbage bin Sunday. The infant is now in the custody of the department of child services.
It is noteworthy that aerosols were one of the categories of contributing factors that the IPCC’s 2007 report cited as poorly understood. It looks like they were right about that, and will have to significantly rework their climate models in the face of this new evidence. Of course, climate researchers are constantly trying to improve their models, as the recent spate of climate prediction updates indicate. Scientists from the EU and around the world have stated that we are now in for several decades of global cooling, not warming.
http://theresilientearth.com/?q=content/arctic-aerosols-indicate-melting-ice-not-caused-co2
donndublin posted November 10, 2009 at 11:53 am
Where did hank say that U.S. = “Global”.
———————
Hank implied that the average U.S. temperatures = the average “Global” temperatures. That’s why I posted (emphasis added):
———–
Hank,
Please explain why you seem to believe that the U.S., with less than 2 percent of Earth’s surface area, = “GLOBAL“.
donndublin posted November 10, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Scientists from the EU and around the world have stated that we are now in for several decades of global cooling, not warming.
—————————-
Who, and what studies support their claim.
“Pleefer — Please enlighten us — What freedoms have you lost due to Obama?? Or for that matter, in your lifetime??”-Chas
Seriously?
Well if I were to have gone to Indymedia on June 25th of 2008, I would have lost my right to privacy.
*I don’t have the right to carry a pocket knife on an airplane, nor a bottle of water.
*I can’t drive my car without a seatbelt.
*I cannot expect a trial by jury or know what my crime is.
*FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION: Government may monitor religious and political institutions without suspecting criminal activity to assist terror investigations.
*FREEDOM OF INFORMATION: Government has closed once- public immigration hearings, has secretly detained hundreds of people without charges, and has encouraged bureaucrats to resist public records questions.
*FREEDOM OF SPEECH: Government may prosecute librarians or keepers of any other records if they tell anyone that the government subpoenaed information related to a terror investigation.
*RIGHT TO LEGAL REPRESENTATION: Government may monitor federal prison jailhouse conversations between attorneys and clients, and deny lawyers to Americans accused of crimes.
*FREEDOM FROM UNREASONABLE SEARCHES: Government may search and seize Americans’ papers and effects without probable cause to assist terror investigation.
*RIGHT TO A SPEEDY AND PUBLIC TRIAL: Government may jail Americans indefinitely without a trial.
*RIGHT TO LIBERTY: Americans may be jailed without being charged or being able to confront witnesses against them.
*I can’t have a yard sale without a permit and without the fear that I’ll be fined and/or jailed for selling some dangerous product.
*I don’t have the freedom to not bail out failed companies.
*I don’t have the freedom to ingest into my body what I wish.
*I don’t have the right to protest where I want, but must protest in designated “free speech zones”.
*I don’t have the right to openly carry a gun.
*I don’t have the right to have money that retains its value.
*I don’t have the right to not fund wars that are illegal.
Man I could go on and on, mentioning freedoms that have been written off before I even got to taste them.
In a demonstration of the law of unexpected consequences, the success of anti-pollution laws may actually be responsible for part of global temperature rise over the past three decades. The United States and European countries passed a series of laws that reduced sulfate emissions by 50% since the 1970s. While improving air quality, curbing acid rain and generally improving public health, an inadvertent result has been less atmospheric cooling from sulfates.
http://theresilientearth.com/?q=content/arctic-aerosols-indicate-melting-ice-not-caused-co2
Pleefer-
It’s all Bush’s fault. Blame him, not Obama. So says the WEBLOG.
GMC70
Posted November 10, 2009 at 8:48 am | Permalink
LJ, that’s what happens when we elect a rookie.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
There were only two men on the planet who were Constitutionally eligible to be elected POTUS who wouldn’t have been rookies.
So, who did you support, James Earl Carter, Jr. or George Herbert Walker Bush?
#
ANTI
Posted November 10, 2009 at 10:04 am | Permalink
Chas,
It’s been a year. It is time for Obama to quit making excuses and put his big boy pants on.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=–=
It’s been a year?
Please tell me more about this alternate method you use to track the passage of time.
Java Script Error:
Line: 1
Error: Syntax error.
Line: 26
Error: ‘misite’ is undefined
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Y’all on it?
It’s been a year?
Please tell me more about this alternate method you use to track the passage of time.
=====================================
That has already been addressed, Daniel.
Nov 9 2008
Within 48 hours of being elected the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama received his first presidential security briefing from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepresidentandcabinet/a/securitybrief.htm
I tie knots in a string to keep track of time.
It’s been a year since America elected Barack Obama.
That’s what CONs hate.
Not what he’s done since he took office on January 20, 2009. The absolute horror CONs feel that a Democrat was elected.
That’s the only issue for CONs:
They’re in and we’re out.”
I’m convinced there’s a certain amount of racism feeding CONs’ rage, but it’s not the driving force. The Repubic Party had it all for a while and now they’ve got squat.
That’s their issue.
That’s their only issue.
#
Regular
Posted November 10, 2009 at 1:16 pm | Permalink
I tie knots in a string to keep track of time.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=–=
I just wait until the Earth has orbited the Sun once, and call it a year.
Works out to about once every 365 days.
I figure that the Earth was orbiting the Sun way before I came along and the Earth will be orbiting the Sun long after I’m gone.
Seems like a fairly reliable method.
aniel
Posted November 10, 2009 at 12:55 pm | Permalink
GMC70
Posted November 10, 2009 at 8:48 am | Permalink
LJ, that’s what happens when we elect a rookie.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
There were only two men on the planet who were Constitutionally eligible to be elected POTUS who wouldn’t have been rookies.
So, who did you support, James Earl Carter, Jr. or George Herbert Walker Bush?
——————
Bush the Senior was the former head of the CIA, a Congressman and Ambassador (among many other things), Vice President – well qualified.
O’BAMA on the other hand, served a partial term as a U.S. Senator.
MonkeyHawk-
Well, you are entitled to have an opinion, no matter how right or wrong it might be. It’s the American way, ya know.
SolDevVB
Posted November 10, 2009 at 1:12 pm | Permalink
Nov 9 2008
Within 48 hours of being elected the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama received his first presidential security briefing from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Pshaw!
As if the CIA is a source of reliable information.
Pshaw!
As if the CIA is a source of reliable information.
——————-
More than you might think…
Part of my duties daily in the Air Force was to open the safe and read the classified messages about threats from the CIA/DIA. Very informative and kept our arses out of the sling.
Regular,
I’d bet that the CIA was more apolitical then than it has recently become.
•Daniel
Posted November 10, 2009 at 1:41 pm | Permalink
Regular,
I’d bet that the CIA was more apolitical then than it has recently become.
———————-
I dunno, I only ran into one CIA operative (I think) and he was in uniform. One day as an Army Capn and the other as an Air Force Lt. Colonel.
The CIA kept their distance from we grunts for the most part.
What adorable children!
President Obama, please hear their call. Go to Copenhagen and work with the other nations to make us more environmentally educated and mindful stewards of this our only home.
http://www.worldwildlife.org/climate/international/kidsvideo.html
Nice ceremony for the Ft Hood victims. Moving rendition of “Amazing Grace” be sung now.
We took the eagle from the air force,
we took the anchor from the navy,
we took the rope from the army,
and on the seventh day, when God rest,
We took the world.
Happy Birthday Nathan, XXX, SemperFi1971, and all other devildogs on the blogs.
Semper Fi
do or die
American_Way
GySgt USMC(Ret)
GMC70
Posted November 10, 2009 at 8:48 am | Permalink
LJ, that’s what happens when we elect a rookie.
*****
Right. Now that Obama has little experience in government, experience in government is very very important to the CON side.
When Al Gore with his tons of experience as Senator and VP ran in 2000, it wasn’t at all important.
cosmos_originally
Posted November 10, 2009 at 12:40 pm | Permalink
donndublin posted November 10, 2009 at 11:53 am
Where did hank say that U.S. = “Global”.
———————
Hank implied that the average U.S. temperatures = the average “Global” temperatures. That’s why I posted (emphasis added):
———–
Hank,
Please explain why you seem to believe that the U.S., with less than 2 percent of Earth’s surface area, = “GLOBAL“.
————-
Just like you implied cosMao. Hypocrit.
•CapnAmerica
Posted November 10, 2009 at 2:36 pm | Permalink
GMC70
Posted November 10, 2009 at 8:48 am | Permalink
LJ, that’s what happens when we elect a rookie.
*****
Right. Now that Obama has little experience in government, experience in government is very very important to the CON side.
When Al Gore with his tons of experience as Senator and VP ran in 2000, it wasn’t at all important.
————————-
Nope
Executive experience – experience that shows one can lead a large organization and have dealt with foreign governments like G.H.W. Bush did.
Al Gore lost the electoral vote – it’s the law of the land. :)
“American_Way
GySgt USMC(Ret)”
Happy Birthday, Marines.
Hud
SCPO USN(Ret)
Bush the senior headed the CIA, bush the junior defecated on the CIA and outed an agent.
Please note that Kansas had the coldest temperature ever on record in October. Global cooling you bet, we weren’t the only states like that.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=national&year=2009&month=10&submitted=Get+Report
Obama paid a very passionate tribute to the fallen ft. hood soldiers.
I gotta agree with Regular.
GW had a lot of experience literally kissing up to Saudis.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/911review/293457625/
In the above photo, Bush is actually getting a woody making out with this Sheik of Araby . . .
That’s “good experience” in CON world.
Also, GW had a lot of experience in seizing private land as Gov. so that he could sell his baseball team for 100 times more than he paid for it.
That’s the kind of hands-on experience at pulling the levers of power for your own personal benefit that a “rookie” like Obama will never get.
CapnAmerica
Posted November 10, 2009 at 2:56 pm | Permalink
I gotta agree with Regular.
GW had a lot of experience literally kissing up to Saudis.
===================
Wrong – I responded initially to another post about George Herbert Walker Bush, not George Walker Bush.
There is a difference, one is older and the father.
Of course, I wouldn’t expect a liberal arts graduate to keep focus for more than a few seconds. :)
donndublin posted November 10, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Just like you implied cosMao. Hypocrit.
—————————-
No. . . I’ve explicitly said many times that “global” is all of the area.
And I’ve pointed out many times that small areas, like the U.S., do not represent the entire global area — they’re only part of the total area.
Cherry-picking a small area is a tactic commonly used by AGW science deniers — see george’s 2:55 pm post.
BlueJay
Posted November 10, 2009 at 2:06 pm | Permalink
What adorable children!
President Obama, please hear their call. Go to Copenhagen and work with the other nations to make us more environmentally educated and mindful stewards of this our only home.
http://www.worldwildlife.org/climate/international/kidsvideo.html
————
When did Obama say he wasn’t going BJ? This video should be directed at China and India instead of blaming the U.S. for all the worlds polution.
“Climate Change: With less than two months to go before the big Copenhagen Conference on global warming, two major nations have said “no thanks” to the no-growth agenda. For that reason alone, so should we.
Following a deal signed late Thursday between China and India, anything we might agree to do in Copenhagen is likely moot anyway. The two mega-nations — which together account for nearly a third of the world’s population — said they won’t go along with a new climate treaty being drafted in Copenhagen to replace the Kyoto Protocol that expires in 2012.”
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=510152
pollution = polution
Bush senior, real american:
“”Suspicions about a deal between the Reagan campaign and Iran over the hostages have circulated since the day of President Reagan’s inaugural, when Iran agreed to release the 52 American hostages exactly five minutes after Mr. Reagan took the oath of office. Later, as it became known that arms started to flow to Iran via Israel only a few days after the inauguration, suspicions deepened that a secret arms-for-hostages deal had been concluded. Five years later, when the Iran-contra affair revealed what seemed to be a similar swap of hostages for arms delivered through Israel, questions were revived about the 1980 election. In a nice, ironic twist, the phrase `October surprise,’ which Vice Presidential candidate George Bush had coined to warn of possible political manipulation of the hostages by Jimmy Carter, began to be applied to the suspected secret activities of the 1980 Reagan-Bush campaign… In a Madrid hotel in late July 1980, an important Iranian cleric, Mehdi Karrubi, who is now the speaker of the Iranian Parliament, allegedly met with Mr. Casey [Reagan's campaign manager and later his Director of the CIA] and a U.S. intelligence officer who was operating outside authority. The same group met again several weeks later…. From Oct. 15 to Oct. 20, events came to a head in a series of meetings in several hotels in Paris, involving members of the Reagan-Bush campaign and high-level Iranian and Israeli representatives. Accounts of these meetings and the exact number of participants vary considerably among the more than 15 sources who claim direct or indirect knowledge of some aspect of them. There is, however, widespread agreement on three points: William Casey was a key participant: the Iranian representatives agreed that the hostages would not be released prior to the Presidential election on Nov. 4; in return, Israel would serve as a conduit for arms and spare parts to Iran.
China and India are emulating our long standing example.
It has been a very bad example. This must change. We will be the innovation and conservation nation. The upshot of that is we get to lead the world in the production and sale of technologies designed to be environmentally friendly.
I responded . . . about George Herbert Walker Bush.
Ah, okay.
Thanks for tacitly agreeing that George W. Bush had no experience.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/11/09/libya.jihadi.code/index.html
Let’s see if it sticks.
Good post, Phantom.
Reagan-Bush were willing to let our guys rot if it meant they got to win the election.
But when everything you do is right, you don’t need to follow the morality of the “little people.”
We will be the innovation and conservation nation. The upshot of that is we get to lead the world in the production and sale of technologies designed to be environmentally friendly.- BJ
———–
You mean like we always have?
Nations vulnerable to global warming present demands: carbon levels below 350ppm and billions in aid‘
http://news.mongabay.com/2009/1110-hance_declaration.html
” “Anthropogenic climate change poses an existential threat to our nations, our cultures and to our way of life, and thereby undermines the internationally-protected human rights of our people,” the declaration states, which is supported by nations attending the summit, including the Maldives, Bangladesh, Nepal, Vietnam, Kiribati, Barbados, Bhutan, Ghana, Rwanda, Kenya and Tanzania. These countries have already been severely impacted by rising seas, extensive droughts, and melting glaciers.
“Developed countries bear the overwhelming historic responsibility for causing anthropogenic climate change and must therefore take the lead in responding to the challenge,” the declaration reads, outlining that this role should involve mitigation, adaptation, technology, and financing the solutions.”
‘$500 Billion Per Year More = How Much It’ll Cost Us to Keep Delaying Climate Change Action Beyond 2010‘
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/11/500-billion-per-year-more-cost-delay-climate-action-past-2010.php
I thought the Conan O’Brien quote said it all about Obama. He thought that he was going to march right in on the “change” express and the waters would part for him. And there is no doubt that Obama was very inexperienced and will have a long learning curve. He is not off to a very quick start.
“In one short year, Obama’s slogan has gone from ‘Yes, we can’ to ‘Wow, this is freakin’ hard.’”
“Developed countries bear the overwhelming historic responsibility for causing anthropogenic climate change and must therefore take the lead in responding to the challenge,” the declaration reads, outlining that this role should involve mitigation, adaptation, technology, and financing the solutions.”
You mean like we already do?
Not that the right should underestimate obama. He is a very intelligent person who will find behind the scenes ways to make progress toward his socialist goals. And before you know it, it has happened.
So when he tells us that the “government option” is just to provide competition for the insurance companies, or that “only 2% will choose the government option” you know what’s really going on.
donndublin posted November 10, 2009 at 3:30 pm
“Developed countries bear the overwhelming historic responsibility for causing anthropogenic climate change and must therefore take the lead in responding to the challenge,” the declaration reads, outlining that this role should involve mitigation, adaptation, technology, and financing the solutions.”
You mean like we already do?
——————————-
No.
According to Michael Steele, Michael Steele is scaring white people. This brother is facing one long, tough slog in his attempt to embiggen the GOP tent.
Sisyphus’ task was less daunting.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29341.html
ANTI
Posted November 10, 2009 at 10:35 am | Permalink
Another one bites the dust;
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Bites the dust? You do realize that Dunn was filling that position on an interim basis and you do realize what the word ‘interim’ means, right?
outlander,
I don’t remember President Obama saying something like, ‘and it will be easy’ after he said, ‘Yes, we can’, during the campaign.
Do you have some quotes/links with the ‘easy’ part?
Yes Daniel, all White people are scared of darkies…Especially the ones that look White.
Jeebus.
You do realize that Dunn was filling that position on an interim basis and you do realize what the word ‘interim’ means, right?
==================================
Yes.
See ya, Ms. Dunn.
Just saw on the tube that in Fl. the ‘tea party’ has been officially registered as a political party. Divide and conquer!
ANTI posted November 10, 2009 at 10:35 am
Another one bites the dust;
———————–
She will still be a consultant for the WH.
“Dunn, a longtime Democratic media consultant, took over the job on an interim basis earlier this year when Ellen Moran abruptly left the post to take a job at the Commerce Department. Dunn will return to Squier Knapp Dunn, the consulting firm where she is a partner, but will remain as a consultant to the White House on the communications and strategic matters.“
Thanks Hud, er Senior Chief.
When I picked up GySgt, I was fishing partners with a senior chief from the local seabee battalion. He offered me the opportunity to go through the chiefs initiation, but I didn’t want to carry that book around with me all the time.
Question, Obama told the nation in his speach that abortion funding is absolutely NOT in the healthcare bill.
So, why the heck did the House have to make such a big deal and vote on an amendment REMOVING abortion funding?
Obama Has Said Health Bill Won’t Fund Abortion, But White House Won’t Say If He Supports Amendment to Bill That Prohibits Funding of Abortion
Tuesday, November 10, 2009
CNSNews.com) – Even though President Obama repeatedly has said that the health care bill will not allow federal funding of abortion, White House Spokesman Robert Gibbs failed three times on Monday to answer reporters’ questions about whether the president supports an amendment to the bill (an amendment approved by the House on Saturday) that would prohibit federal funds from going to health insurance plans that pay for
abortions.
cosmos_originally
Posted November 10, 2009 at 3:54 pm | Permalink
ANTI posted November 10, 2009 at 10:35 am
Another one bites the dust;
———————–
She will still be a consultant for the WH.
=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Yeah, sounds like she’s stepping back into more of a part-time position.
Dunn was offered the job of White House Communications Director first in January and declined because of family concerns. The job the was offered to Ellen Moran who held the position until she resigned to become Chief of Staff to the Secretary of Commerce. President Obama then asked Dunn to fill the position on an interim basis until a permanent replacement could be put in place.
It can be tough to balance the demands of a high profile job in D.C. with familial responsibilities. Sounds like Dunn has found a way to strike the right balance. Good for her.
Obama has ordered that torture no longer be used on enemy combatants or those being held in US custody.
Congress passed and Obama signed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, a $787 billion dollar stimulus program. The Dow Jones Industrial Average was about 8,000 in mid January 2009 and it now stands at above 10,000 today — a 25 percent increase in less than a year.
Obama signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, which resets the 180-day deadline to file a discrimination lawsuit.
Obama’s appointee Kenneth Feinberg ordered CEO’s of bailed-out companies to return million dollar bonuses.
Obama’s EPA head has denied permits for “mountain top” removal that Bush aggressively encouraged.
The Cash for Clunkers program actively reduced fuel consumption and pollution from old cars.
Obama has signed more funding for trains and has made high speed rail a priority.
Earmarks 19 billion for electronic medical records.
Signs new 2,500 tax credit for families paying for college tuition.
Designates 2 billion in stimulus for advanced car battery design for electric cars.
Put 2 million new acres under federal wildlife protection . . . trails, streams, parks.
Overturns the Bush anti-science ban on stem cell research.
De-funds abstinence only sex ed.
Expands SCHIP (medical aid to children) which Bush vetoed twice.
De-funds massive unworkable star-wars missile defense shield for Europe, leading Russia to agree to destroy some nukes.
Receives Nobel Peace Prize.
Restarts funding to United Nations Population Fund (which the Bush administration had blocked for eight years) and reinstates low-cost birth control availability at college health centers and at some 400 clinics serving low-income women.
Appoints actual scholar and judge to Supreme Court bench with Sonya Sotomayor.
Drew up plans to withdraw troops from Iraq by a date certain of Aug 31st, 2010.
Is on the verge of a major systematic reform of the US health care reform, something that has never been accomplished since FDR and Truman first pursued it.
Other than that, what has the guy done?
hmmmm what would it take to get the Rabid Republican Tea Party registered in Kansas?
Remember, they said Bush KNEW IN ADVANCE?!?! Remember when democrats went absolutely ape sheat when they learned Bush had FBI Reports on 911 but failed to act?
Now Obama:
FBI Reassessing Its Past Look at the Fort Hood Suspect
Tuesday, November 10, 2009
By Devlin Barrett, Associated Press
Washington (AP) – Nearly a year before Maj. Nidal Hasan allegedly went on a shooting rampage at Fort Hood, terrorism investigators conducted an
“assessment” of him before deciding he did not pose a threat.
After the shooting, the FBI is doing a new assessment — of its own conduct. The Army psychiatrist is believed to have acted alone despite repeated communications — intercepted by authorities — with a radical imam overseas, U.S. officials said Monday. The FBI will conduct an internal review to see whether it mishandled early information about the man accused in the bloody rampage that killed 13 people and wounded 29.
Remember, they said Bush KNEW IN ADVANCE?!?! Remember when democrats went absolutely ape sheat when they learned Bush had FBI Reports on 911 but failed to act?
Now Obama:
FBI Reassessing Its Past Look at the Fort Hood Suspect
Tuesday, November 10, 2009
By Devlin Barrett, Associated Press
Washington (AP) – Nearly a year before Maj. Nidal Hasan allegedly went on a shooting rampage at Fort Hood, terrorism investigators conducted an
“assessment” of him before deciding he did not pose a threat.
After the shooting, the FBI is doing a new assessment — of its own conduct. The Army psychiatrist is believed to have acted alone despite repeated communications — intercepted by authorities — with a radical imam overseas, U.S. officials said Monday. The FBI will conduct an internal review to see whether it mishandled early information about the man accused in the bloody rampage that killed 13 people and wounded 29.
Remember, they said Bush KNEW IN ADVANCE?!?! Remember when democrats went absolutely ape sheat when they learned Bush had FBI Reports on 911 but failed to act?
Now Obama:
FBI Reassessing Its Past Look at the Fort Hood Suspect
Tuesday, November 10, 2009
By Devlin Barrett, Associated Press
Washington (AP) – Nearly a year before Maj. Nidal Hasan allegedly went on a shooting rampage at Fort Hood, terrorism investigators conducted an
“assessment” of him before deciding he did not pose a threat.
After the shooting, the FBI is doing a new assessment — of its own conduct. The Army psychiatrist is believed to have acted alone despite repeated communications — intercepted by authorities — with a radical imam overseas, U.S. officials said Monday. The FBI will conduct an internal review to see whether it mishandled early information about the man accused in the bloody rampage that killed 13 people and wounded 29.
What will it take to make the Rabid Republican Tea Party an official party in Kansas?
Answer: Big Daddy Koch’s approval.
Freaking Obama does more before breakfast than Bush did all month.
He stands on the brink of major health care reform–which has been tried and failed by every major Democrat since FDR–and the CONs whine, “but what has he DONE?”
To read too many books is harmful.
Other than de-funded abstinence only sex ed and reinstated funding for clinics serving the poor and world wide through the UN.
What we have in excess is women. So if you want, we can give a few of those to you, some tens of thousands. Let them go to your place. They will create disasters. That way you can lessen our burden.
My long-vanished post of ten minutes ago shows up after all.
This is one weird blog . . .
You know that “after Obama, the biggest CON is sure to win” narrative that you CONs are peddling these days?
You might want to check this out:
November 10, 2009
Surprising Victory in Seattle Mayor’s Race
By WILLIAM YARDLEY
SEATTLE — A former Sierra Club leader who rode his bicycle to campaign events and relied heavily on volunteer support claimed a narrow and surprising victory on Monday in the race for mayor of this environmentally friendly city.
“You cared, you believed, and we’ve got a lot more work to do,” Mike McGinn told supporters after the city’s mail-in election showed him winning 51 percent of the vote, by a margin of 4,939 votes out of about 190,000 cast in the mayor’s race.
He was met by the same chant he heard on the campaign trail: “We like Mike!”
His opponent had conceded a few minutes earlier.
Mr. McGinn, who was outspent more than 3 to 1 and did not receive endorsements from major political and business leaders, defeated Joe Mallahan, a vice president with T-Mobile who contributed more than $200,000 to his own campaign.
A former Sierra Club leader who rode his bicycle to campaign events and relied heavily on volunteer support claimed a narrow and surprising victory on Monday in the race for mayor of this environmentally friendly city.
================================
Capn’A,
It’s Seattle, what’s the surprise?
Cap with few exceptions your list reads like a list of an over indulged child spending much more money than he has or can ever expect to have.
A grownup man would know as all adults have to understand – we want things all of the time but if the money isn’t there to pay for them then we negotiate – look at an alternative – decide how to achieve what is needed without breaking the bank in other words.
I ask again ‘What has the man done’?
BTW, Anti–
I picked up what looks to be a decent Mosin Nagant rifle at the gun show in KC last weekend for about 100 bucks.
Tula Armory, 1939 issue, with a shiny bright bore, all matching numbers.
Now I have to find a place I can shoot it, heh.
Wanted to buy a Nagant 1891 style revolver but wouldn’t you know it, KC Missouri has a ban on out-of-state handgun purchases. DAMN LIBERALS!
Anyway, as soon as my C & R license arrives, I’ll just get one on-line.
C’mon, CONs –
Mock this:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/11/10/803032/-Video:-President-Obamas-Heartbreaking-Speech-At-Fort-Hood-
Right, Oko–
If you oppose everything he’s done, then what he’s doing is good for our country.
That reminds me, Obama also allowed firearms in national parks.
Three of the largest Wall Street firms — which together received $45,000,000,000 in taxpayer bailouts — are on track to hand out $29,700,000,000 in bonuses this year.
That’s only the three largest firms.
Mosin Nagant rifle
=========================
Capn’A,
Is that a Russian 8mm?
My knowledge of military rifles is limited.
Obama also allowed firearms in national parks.
=================================
You have always been able to take firearms into National Parks….During hunting seasons.
#
Monkeyhawk
Posted November 10, 2009 at 4:40 pm | Permalink
C’mon, CONs –
Mock this:
————–
Why?
Incidentally, I appreciated the Christian memorial service, replete with scripture quotes, prayer and Amazing Grace.
Am_Way equates preventing a shooting spree of exactly one guy with a conspiracy of 19 al Qaeda terrorists planned over years involving simultaneous hijacking of 4 airplanes.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Barack Obama:
01/21/2009 $10,625,053,544,309.79
11/05/2009 $ 11,990,561,444,829.48
Total Obama debt over 10 months: $1,365,507,900,519.69
More than all prior presidents.
WPE
“Democratic leaders decided not to remove the gun provision after Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., was able to insert it into a popular bill imposing new restrictions on credit card companies. Lawmakers and aides said there was not enough time to send the bill to a House-Senate conference committee — where it could be removed without a vote — and still get it to President Barack Obama by Memorial Day as he has requested.”
Capn did he really vote to allow guns in National Parks or was he tricked into it?
Shades of the line item veto pen not being available maybe?
Anti–
It’s a Soviet mil-surp weapon in a 7.65 mm caliber (.32 caliber).
It fires a cartridge in the neighborhood of a .30-06 or a .308. Not nearly as hot as a .338 though.
The Eastern bloc countries have been dumping their old rifles on the market for about 4 years now, but they’re still cheap, cheap, cheap.
A few rarer pieces or sniper versions will run upwards of 400 . . .
Dims make policy, they don’t actually follow it themselves:
Dems Rejected 11 Amendments Requiring Congress to Enroll in Gov’t-Run
Health Plan
Tuesday, November 10, 2009
More than 200 amendments were rejected by the House Rules Committee ahead of Saturday’s vote on the Democrats’ health care bill, including 11 that would have required members of Congress and other government
officials to be enrolled in the same federal insurance plan proposed for the American people.
Critics of the health care bill said they offered the 11 amendments -
including some that would require the president, vice president, and
Supreme Court justices to give up their Federal Employees Health Benefit
Program (FEHBP) to enroll in the ‘public option’ or Medicaid – to
showcase the problems with the massive legislation.
“If Congress forces our constituents into a public option plan over
time, then members of Congress should be expected to do the same,” Rep.
Howard McKeon (R-Calif.) told CNSNews.com.
Nevermind Capn’A,
I remember, the Nagant was used in Russia among other countries, pre SKS.
Enjoy, hopefully it’s not too used.
Am-Way–
Your observation is incorrect.
Bush ran up the national debt by some 4.5 Trillion.
That almost doubled the national debt, which Clinton-Gore had been paying down.
CNS news, hahahahaha.
It’s what Fox was before they made a pretense of being “fair and balanced.”
Nearly a year before Maj. Nidal Hasan allegedly went on a shooting rampage at Fort Hood
That would probably put it under wpe.
What does CNS stand for anyway?
Cybercast News Source.
Cyber news is to news as cyber sex is to sex.
Anyway, the fbi concluded that the communications were in line with his psych. practice, and no threats were made, not exactly the pds bush got.
Anyway, the fbi concluded that the communications were in line with his psych. practice, and no threats were made, not exactly the pdb bush got.
The blog sucks.
American_Way
Posted November 10, 2009 at 4:25 pm | Permalink
Remember, they said Bush KNEW IN ADVANCE?!?! Remember when democrats went absolutely ape sheat when they learned Bush had FBI Reports on 911 but failed to act?
Now Obama:
FBI Reassessing Its Past Look at the Fort Hood Suspect
Tuesday, November 10, 2009
By Devlin Barrett, Associated Press
Washington (AP) – Nearly a year before
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
You are absolutely the last person on this blog that I would have expected to pull a ‘B-b-b-but BUSH!’
Oh well, to each their won.
P.S.
Happy Marine Corp Birthday to you.
cosmos_originally
Posted November 10, 2009 at 3:35 pm | Permalink
donndublin posted November 10, 2009 at 3:30 pm
“Developed countries bear the overwhelming historic responsibility for causing anthropogenic climate change and must therefore take the lead in responding to the challenge,” the declaration reads, outlining that this role should involve mitigation, adaptation, technology, and financing the solutions.”
You mean like we already do?
——————————-
No.
————–
Cosmao,
Have you ever heard of public and private Foreign Aid public? The U.S. is the world’s largest donor with a lot of it going to China and India.
Then there’s the amount we spend on security for those regions.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RS22032.pdf
Phantom were you always an apologist or did you just become one after Obama was elected?
Averted the 2nd depression, kept America in the auto manuf. bus., bettered relations with the world, received the noble prize, etc. and that’s just the first 9 months!
“Bush ran up the national debt by some 4.5 Trillion.”
Not in less than ten months!
Bush Debt versus Obama Debt:
George Bush:
January 20, 2001 – January 20, 2009
01/22/2001 $5,728,195,796,181.57
01/20/2009 $10,626,877,048,913.08
Total Bush debt over 8 years: $4,898,681,252,731.51
(and don’t forget those damn democrats were in control of the congress the last two years!)
Scozzafava takes on Palin
Posted: November 10th, 2009 05:20 PM ET
From CNN Associate Producer Martina Stewart
Washington (CNN) – Dede Scozzafava, the woman who has become the symbol of moderate Republicanism, is taking a shot at former Republican vice presidential hopeful Sarah Palin, the woman who has become the darling of the Republican Party’s conservative grassroots.
In a new interview, the state assemblywoman also lets loose on former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who chose to endorse Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman over Scozzafava, her party’s official nominee, in the closely-watched race in New York’s 23rd congressional district.
The growing conservative support for Hoffman, including the endorsements from Palin and other prominent conservatives, eventually led Scozzafava – who had been hand-picked by local party leaders – to drop out of the race just days before Election Day.
“How can Sarah Palin come out and endorse someone who can’t answer some basic questions?” Scozzafava told the Washington Post. “Do these people even know who they are endorsing?”
In the interview, Scozzafava – who ended up backing the race’s victor, Democrat Bill Owens – sounded a bitter note about how she was treated by members of her own party.
“It was organized,” Scozzafava told the Post about the attacks against her by Palin, other prominent conservative figures, and conservative advocacy groups. “There is a lot of us who consider ourselves Republicans, of the Party of Lincoln. If they don’t want us with them, we’re going to work against them.”
“Bush ran up the national debt by some 4.5 Trillion.”
Not in less than ten months!
Bush Debt versus Obama Debt:
George Bush:
January 20, 2001 – January 20, 2009
01/22/2001 $5,728,195,796,181.57
01/20/2009 $10,626,877,048,913.08
Total Bush debt over 8 years: $4,898,681,252,731.51
(and don’t forget those damn democrats were in control of the congress the last two years!)
cosmos_originally
Posted November 10, 2009 at 3:35 pm | Permalink
donndublin posted November 10, 2009 at 3:30 pm
“Developed countries bear the overwhelming historic responsibility for causing anthropogenic climate change and must therefore take the lead in responding to the challenge,” the declaration reads, outlining that this role should involve mitigation, adaptation, technology, and financing the solutions.”
You mean like we already do?
——————————-
No.
————–
Cosmao,
Have you ever heard of public and private Foreign Aid? The U.S. is the world’s largest donor with a lot of it going to China and India.
Then there’s the amount we spend on security for those regions.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RS22032.pdf
Recruiting for the armed forces is up in numbers and up in quality.
Looks like soldiers want to serve under this Commander-in-Chief . . . as opposed to the previous one.
“Bush ran up the national debt by some 4.5 Trillion.”
Not in less than ten months!
Bush Debt versus Obama Debt:
George Bush:
January 20, 2001 – January 20, 2009
01/22/2001 $5,728,195,796,181.57
01/20/2009 $10,626,877,048,913.08
Total Bush debt over 8 years: $4,898,681,252,731.51
(and don’t forget those damn democrats were in control of the congress the last two years!)
Capn,
Do you agree or not, that Congress and their families should have the same coverage as the rest of us?
Capn,
Do you agree or disagree that Congress and their families should get the same coverage that we are to recieve?
Monkeyhawk
Posted November 10, 2009 at 4:40 pm | Permalink
C’mon, CONs –
Mock this:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/11/10/803032/-Video:-President-Obamas-Heartbreaking-Speech-At-Fort-Hood-
———–
Watch Monkey make up a “Con” nic and start mocking it to make himslef relevant.
#
CapnAmerica
Posted November 10, 2009 at 4:43 pm | Permalink
That reminds me, Obama also allowed firearms in national parks.
=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
I’d wager that President Obama has signed more 2nd amendment-friendly legislation in his first 10 months in office than President Bush did in his entire term.
I’ll also wager that about a half-dozen bloggers will let me know in very short order if I am wrong.
This one actually makes me sick. Actually set up to help community organizers.
We all know who they are, right?
If you read the article, we are actually paying for protesters against oil well drilling, ocean fishing, you name it and grow more liberals.
EPA Ready to Dole Out ‘Environmental Justice’ Grants for Budding Activists
The EPA said it expects to award approximately 40 grants of up to $25,000 each in Fiscal 2010. It will accept applications until January 8, 2010.
According to the EPA Web site, the Environmental Justice Grant Funding Program is intended to help communities “understand and address
environmental challenges and create self-sustaining, community-based partnerships focused o improving human health and the environment.”
In other words, it puts underprivileged people in touch with liberal activists and turns them into “agents of change.” (See project
descriptions below.)
The EPA defines environmental justice as the fair treatment and meaningful involvement of all people regardless of race, color, national
origin, or income with respect to development, implementation, and enforcement of environmental laws, regulations, and policies.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/56934
We need to get the tea party registered as a political party in ks., then maybe we could get rid of roberts, brownback, tiahrt an moran, and other lesser morons!
Maybe koch could be the nominee for whatever.
#
CapnAmerica
Posted November 10, 2009 at 5:22 pm | Permalink
Recruiting for the armed forces is up in numbers and up in quality.
Looks like soldiers want to serve under this Commander-in-Chief . . . as opposed to the previous one.
————–
Yeah, I’m sure that’s it Capn. It couldn’t be the 10.2% unemployment rate.
CapnAmerica
Posted November 10, 2009 at 5:22 pm | Permalink
Recruiting for the armed forces is up in numbers and up in quality.
Looks like soldiers want to serve under this Commander-in-Chief . . . as opposed to the previous one.
=========================
Or, wanting to get the benefits like GI Bill and other VA benefits before the Progressives do away with them.
“Averted the 2nd depression, kept America in the auto manuf. bus., bettered relations with the world…”-Phantom
Yeeeaaaaahhh, we’ll see about that.
FIRST: Okie, as usual, here lately, you missed the entire point of what dog and I were disccussing… And here’s a little clue… Neither one of us mentioned ONE thing about this POS who shot up Ft. Hood… His religion is irrelevant to what dog and I were discussing…
The point was, Christians have been called on several different times in just the history of OUR country… They have done it. Other religions have different viewpoints… If I were recruiting military personnel, I would ask the question — Could you fight in a war situation, and face people of your own faith as enemies… WHATEVER the religion…
Dog and I were specifically discussing Christians… not Muslims… not atheists… not Hindus… Christians…
MY point was simply that it has happened right here on American soil… and at least three times that I can think of…
READ: “The War Prayer,” by Mark Twin… It will open your eyes if you havent read it. IF you have read it… it will re-open your eyes… Then maybe you wont have to post nonsense in response to what Dog and I were discussing…
SECOND: Pleefer… Good grief, man… What parallel universe are you living in??
NOT ONE of your laundry list is a protected Right under the Constitution… not even Association(which would not be association, but the right to assemble)… and not even Free Speech(the WAY you described it).
I couldnt see even ONE thing on you long list that is a protected RIGHT under the COTUS…. not ONE…
You wanna try again??
Pleefer — I will even start you off on one of your listed items…
I hate to tell you this, but you do NOT have any Constitutional RIGHT to drive a CAR… Thus you dont have a RIGHT to not wear a seat belt… Thus, that is not a RIGHT you have lost…
any bets chas is close to another meltdown? 13 words in ALL CAPS in the last post…
Raptor, SHOVE IT SOMEWHERE THAT TURNS YA ON!!! Dum Schitt`
update…18 words in ALL CAPS in two posts..
Raptor, if you dont like CAPS, dont read them… Idiot!!
aahhhh…and the typical lib hatred starts up again. I made a simple observation, and ‘chas’ feels the need to throw in insults.
must be the lib means of communicating, call people names and try to change the subject. what is next, you childish one, sticking your fingers in your ears and going “nanner nanner boo boo”?
Don’t need anything like that Chas, military people take oaths:
Oath for Enlisted
“I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”
Oath for Officers
“I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God.”
Reg.. I know… those are oaths for inductees… My POINT was in reference to the recruiters… the Recruiters, Reg…
Nice try at yet another one of your attempts to spin something that wasnt even mentioned… Do try harder….
Poor ol’ WE Blog CONs –
Getting their asses handed to ‘em and whimpering about “lib hate.”
It must seem like hate.
When you CONs go into circle jerk mode, all you read in this forum is how much you agree with Glenn O’Hannitybaugh.
Get called on the actual specifics of your little bumper-sticker slogans and you whine about “lib hate.”
Poor wittle babies.
How many of you tea party supporters are willing to turn in your repub voter reg,indep. reg. for a tea party reg.? I bet only one or two posters, if that many.
so, mh, are you denying, then, that in the last couple days, “rage” referred to someone he disagreed with as a “deadbeat”, capn used gross anatomical insults, and chas calls out ‘idiot’.. all instead of responding to the posts made?
How in the world is that childish behavior considered “Getting their asses handed to ‘em …” as you so eloquently put it?
Raptor… au contraire… I called somebody an Idiot, who failed to properly read what I had posted, and snarked on and on about it… Better go check out your readings skills again on that one… tsk tsk
” into circle jerk mode”
Monkeyhawk talking about something he obviously knows something about here.
And we also know he spent 30 minutes watching a United States Marine getting dressed in a public dressing room.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure Monkey out.
Awful lot of posters talking about this of late. Must be a conspiracy.
“Raptor” –
I’ve been the target of plenty of insults from WE Blog CONs. Name-calling, attempts to draw me into snark-fests, y’know….
I think ol’ “BlueJay’s” been called an assorted number of synonyms for “deadbeat,” regularly from assorted WE Blog CONs. I guess I failed to catch the “gross anatomical insults” you whine about. Fill me in on those and I’ll comment.
As for “Chas” calling people “idiots,” that seems more erudite than “Boxlock20″ calling the pastor “Chas the Spaz.”
But none of these slurs prompt me to whine and whimper about “CON hate.” WE Blog CONs, on the other hand… well, you know.
Fox News’ Glenn Beck will now have five consecutive New York Times Bestsellers with the release of his new book, The Christmas Sweater: A Picture Book.
Beck’s publishing house, Simon & Schuster, believes that Beck has become the only author in history to ever have #1 New York Times bestsellers debut on these four different lists: hardcover fiction (The Christmas Sweater), hardcover nonfiction (Arguing with Idiots and An Inconvenient Book), nonfiction paperback (Glenn Beck’s Common Sense), and now with The Christmas Sweater: A Picture Book, children’s picture books.
Libs are going to go nuts over this!
donndublin posted November 10, 2009 at 5:22 pm
cosmos_originally
Posted November 10, 2009 at 3:35 pm | Permalink
donndublin posted November 10, 2009 at 3:30 pm
“Developed countries bear the overwhelming historic responsibility for causing anthropogenic climate change and must therefore take the lead in responding to the challenge,” the declaration reads, outlining that this role should involve mitigation, adaptation, technology, and financing the solutions.”
You mean like we already do?
——————————-
No.
————–
Cosmao,
Have you ever heard of public and private Foreign Aid public? The U.S. is the world’s largest donor with a lot of it going to China and India.
Then there’s the amount we spend on security for those regions
———————————-
So what?
Global GHG levels have still been rising.
And AGW is also a security issue.
More to come on ACORN. Apparently, law enforcement across the nation read the WEBLOG and have agreed with American_way’s assessment of this group made one year ago…..
New Orleans (AP) – Investigators are searching the New Orleans offices
of the activist group ACORN in connection with embezzlement and tax
fraud allegations.
Assistant Attorney General David Caldwell said a warrant was obtained to
seize computers, hard drives and other documents Friday. Caldwell said
investigators will copy records and hard drives, then return them to the
Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.
Fellow Patriots,
This past weekend we witnessed a gruesome abuse of power. Indeed, Congress passed dangerous healthcare legislation that represents a clear and blunt attack on our rights and liberties as Americans.
Our team has worked hard over the past 24 hours to determine our next course of action, and the folks behind TaxDayTeaParty.com are with us in this next step.
This morning we launched an aggressive new committee called Liberty First PAC. In our first 5 hours of being live, we have more than $35,000 pledged and we’ve raised about $4,000 of it to kick things off.
If you think all incumbents who supported this monstrosity of a bill should be removed from office, we need you to join us and take the pledge.
In doing so, you pledge NOT to vote or support an incumbent who supported this legislation. You also pledge to help us promote a candidate that will help defeat them.
Are you with us? Then take the pledge now.
http://grassrootspledge.com
Enough is enough. Give us liberty, or give us death.
For Liberty,
-Eric Odom
Actually, “American_Way” –
It was more like 20 minutes.
But go ahead and lie about it. It’s your nature.
And all those garters and gussets that are hidden by a Marine Corps dress uniform are about the gayest thing I’ve ever seen this side of Navy sailor suits.
I probably wouldn’t have stayed around to watch as long as I did if I hadn’t expected the guy to break out in song:
“I feel pretty!
Oh so pretty!
I feel pretty!
And witty!
And…”
…well, you know.
outlander,
Have you found any ‘Yes, we can, and it will be easy’ quotes yet?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/11/open-thread-1110-2/#comment-692660
Oh good grief.. A,Way’s gonna go nuts over ACORN!! How timeley… what with all the falling leaves on the oak trees…. LOL
cosmos_originally
Posted November 10, 2009 at 7:02 pm | Permalink
outlander,
Have you found any ‘Yes, we can, and it will be easy’ quotes yet?
————
Why no, no I haven’t Cosmos. Not that I’ve bothered to look. But I do have a story for you.
My mother in law had this yappy little dog that could really jump. He stayed inside most of the time. But when he was put out, he would soon hang around the back screen door that had a solid bottom with glass starting about a third of the way up. Cosmos would soon yap and leap high so that he could be seen through the glass in an effort to get someone to notice. Again and again and again. It was quite a sight.
You are cute Chas, but I already got a dog.
ACORN isn’t my show. It’s law enforcement across the land going nuts over Obama’s ACORN.
Chas, you’re a fuqin idiot.
A trial by jury, knowing what the fuq the crime is that I’m being held for and the ability to have bail ARE ALL FUQIN CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
You’re a godd@mned ret@rd. A GODD@AMNED RET@RD.
You all got the POTUS you voted for because you are too fuqin to stupid to have gotten anyone better. Stupid loves stupid.
You’re gonna attack my car beef? You dipschitts would like to believe that you know what the fuq you’re all talking about, but all you have are little soundbytes and memes.
Is there anything you people don’t believe you have all the answers to?
Fuq yourself.
With love, Pleefer
A trite little bitsch you are.
““Averted the 2nd depression, kept America in the auto manuf. bus., ”
Any proof to go along with that new testament Phantom? Or do you just drink it in?
Tell me about the 2nd depression.
Regarding auto industry, the only US manufacturer to report big profits was Ford – the only one Obama isn’t the CEO of. (yet)
Senior Official: More Hasan Ties to People Under Investigation by FBI
A senior government official tells ABC News that investigators have found that alleged Fort Hood shooter Nidal Malik Hasan had “more unexplained connections to people being tracked by the FBI” than just radical cleric Anwar al Awlaki. The official declined to name the individuals but Congressional sources said their names and countries of origin were likely to emerge soon.
…
The Washington Post reported Tuesday that Hasan gave a PowerPoint presentation to fellow Army doctors in 2007 in which he said, “It’s getting harder and harder for Muslims in the service to morally justify being in a military that seems constantly engaged against fellow Muslims.” He recommended that Muslim soldiers be given the option of being released from the military as conscientious objectors to decrease what he called “adverse events.” Under “comments,” he wrote, “We love death more than you love life.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/official-nidal-hasan-unexplained-connections/story?id=9048590
Amway,
From the fther of a formaMarine and a vet happ[y birthday,Ya know it’s one birthday my son never forgets.
outlander
So the Conan O’Brien quote you praised does not match reality?
Okay.
Pleefer,
Is “catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere” a “scientific” phrase?
How many degrees is that? 700 F., making Earth like Venus?
American_Way,
Do you have a link to the text you posted in your 6:57 pm post? I’d love to read the rest of that story.
Thanks.
Party time for the DC sniper!
Phantom
Posted November 10, 2009 at 5:22 pm | Permalink
Averted the 2nd depression, kept America in the auto manuf. bus., bettered relations with the world, received the noble prize, etc. and that’s just the first 9 months!
—————–
Do you write fairy tales Phantom. Averted the 2nd depression – and you are basing that on what?
The auto remark is just too silly to even answer except for which auto mfg made a profit – clue it wasn’t the obama car company.
The nobel prize is probably the funniest one – and he won this how?
Boy I can hardly wait to see what his second 9 months have for us.
chas is such a liar.
at one point he posts:
Chas
Posted November 10, 2009 at 5:59 pm | Permalink
Raptor, if you dont like CAPS, dont read them… Idiot!!
and, when I call him on his infantile name calling, he resorts with:
Chas
Posted November 10, 2009 at 6:49 pm | Permalink
Raptor… au contraire… I called somebody an Idiot, who failed to properly read what I had posted, and snarked on and on about it… Better go check out your readings skills again on that one… tsk tsk
So, not only is chas a liar, he doesn’t read or remember his own posts. pathetic
Chas is living proof:
Did Neanderthals Have Sex with Modern Humans?
Friday, November 06, 2009
We are currently the only human species alive, but as recently as 24,000 years ago another one walked the earth – the Neanderthals.
These extinct humans were the closest relatives we had, and tantalizing new hints from researchers suggest that we might have been intimately
close indeed. The mystery of whether Neanderthals and us had sex might be solved if the entire Neanderthal genome is reported soon as expected.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572575,00.html?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a4:g4
:r3:c0.000000:b0:z5
Does Chas post in Caps intentionally or by stroke?
It seems his 5:59 posts indicates it’s intentional!
Gasp!
JimJohnson
Posted November 10, 2009 at 8:11 pm | Permalink
Does Chas post in Caps intentionally or by stroke?
It seems his 5:59 posts indicates it’s intentional!
Gasp!
Well color me surprised!
Oh yeah, I see the Chas resemblance now.
I seem to recall some posts about the religion practiced by Neanderthals. Similar to Chas’ supposed religion.
Say Free,
Didn’t Chas claim that his stroke had something to do with his ALL CAPS?
During the Bush presidency, Congressmen were told quite bluntly that they had 48 hours to bail out the financial system or face a global economic collapse.
Great Depression II? You betcha.
Take a few minutes and learn:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/documentaries/2009/09/090918_the_crash_one.shtml
Freebird1971
Posted November 10, 2009 at 8:01 pm | Permalink
Party time for the DC sniper!
—————————-
The sniper hopefully has some preacher to comfort him at this time.
Maybe he gets a ceremony surrounded by rocks and candles.
Jim,
On several occasions,want to bet he will demand proof?
“Party time for the DC sniper!”
Ha! Love it. Wish they put it on Pay Per View. Profits to go to the families of victims. I’d pay. Get my popcorn ready.
Tell yer son happy birthday back at him! Once a Marine always a Marine. He is welcome at any Marine gathering, VFW, AmVets, SDIEGO, PIsland…..
The young will still return the salute and carry on the tradition of Semper Fidelis….
It’s an awsome feeling for all of us you can claim the title.
Freebird1971
Posted November 10, 2009 at 8:17 pm | Permalink
Jim,
On several occasions,want to bet he will demand proof?
========================================
Surely he knows what humiliating posts a bone dig would find!
It’s an awsome feeling for all of us who can claim the title.
Whether they served 2 years of 30. Those chosen few Americans, who have earned the right to wear the emblem, are always welcome by their brothers in arms and respect rendered always to those that went before them.
DavidB
Posted November 10, 2009 at 8:15 pm | Permalink
During the Bush presidency, Congressmen were told quite bluntly that they had 48 hours to bail out the financial system or face a global economic collapse.
—————————————–
How did Obama vote on this?
I found the info on Neanderthals. It appears likely that Chas descended from a long line of Neanderthal Preachers:
http://www.counterbalance.org/ghc-evo/neand-body.html
There is evidence of ‘religious’ practice amongst at least some Neanderthal populations – the embryonic position and east-west orientation of some burials, burial with grave ‘goods’ such as flinttools, the possible scattering of flower blossoms – grape hyacinth,hollyhock and grounsel and boughs of pine – over the dead, the circlingof a grave with six pairs of goat horns.
Note the similarities here, and a Chas funeral celebration today:
http://www.scilogs.eu/en/blog/biology-of-religion/2009-10-17/the-burials-of-neanderthals-religion-evolved-at-least-two-times
“Didn’t Chas claim that his stroke had something to do with his ALL CAPS?”
Yes. Ohhhh Yes!!! Someone please dial 911!!!!
Chas posted in all caps and has failed to post a response since.
He may be dead already.
Someone, PLEASE call Chas at home,or dial his parishhh to check on him.
I fear he has finally stroked out.
OMG!! We make actually have a blogger post Chas obituary on the WEblog. How weird would THAT be?
Amway my son talks often about the ceremony when hw completed the crucible,he relates not only was it the proudest day of his life but he had earbed something no one could ever take away. The reason he joined the Marines is because he said he wanted to test himself and to be a member of an elite team. He served 5,caught in the stop loss when the war started,he was with 3rd Marine Air Wing Fire Crash and Rescue
DavidB
Posted November 10, 2009 at 8:15 pm | Permalink
During the Bush presidency, Congressmen were told quite bluntly that they had 48 hours to bail out the financial system or face a global economic collapse.
————–
BTW, what was Geithner’s involvement and position on this recommendation?
Amway
Only took the scumbag 11 minutes to die,bet it took some of his victims longer than that. He should have suffered more
American_Way
Posted November 10, 2009 at 8:23 pm | Permalink
OMG!! We make actually have a blogger post Chas obituary on the WEblog. How weird would THAT be?
================================
Hate to speak ill of the dead, but did you know…
http://books.google.com/books?id=Dqli6c7-kT0C&pg=PA124&lpg=PA124&dq=neanderthal+religious&source=bl&ots=56UOr_JPrL&sig=WthhM0A5E9peE6PvEZsXd5iFieU&hl=en&ei=1jD4SpK2H9OTnQe-k9m8Ag&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CBcQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=neanderthal%20religious&f=false
The Neanderthal skull of Monte Circeo points to a gruesome possibly religious practice of Chas’ ancestors.
The Monte Circeo skull belonged to a Neanderthal who was killed in his mid-40’s. It was found on the floor of a cave surrounded by a circle of stones. Evidence points to two blows to the head, pointing to a violent death, perhaps a ritual murder. This mutilation is identical to the one produced by head-hunters of Borneo and Melanesia (Chas’ relatives who are still alive today and descended from Neanderthals).
The Borneo and Melanesian head hunters extracted the brain and ate it for ritual and social purposes, one of which is necessary in order to assign a name to the newborn. In certain tribes of New Guinea, a newborn child receives a name only after the killing and beheading of a man whose name is known. A relative mutilates the base of the skull of the victim, extracts his brain, bakes it with sago, and eats it, after which the infant may bear the name of the dead one. The mutilated skull is kept as a sacred object in the home of the newborn child.
(Obamacare may provide for this same ritual, in order to ration care and make sure that newborns and younger people are able to receive healthcare.)
And as for the Borneo and Melanesian head hunters, their gruesome custom is practiced by tribes that are not particularly bloodthirsty or aggressive and have rather high morals. The ritual cannibalism is performed as a strict obligation toward the community (for the greater good), and for the newborn.
When the Dutch government tried to stop this tradition, the tribes revolted. They said, “We have to give names to our children! How could we handle it otherwise?”
Strangely, the current modern-day Neanderthals sacrifice the newborns (aborting them) to make life easier for the older Neanderthals. And the dead child usually is not named, nor is the baby’s skull kept as a sacred object, it simply gets tossed in the dumpster.
Freebird I was lovingly reading your post, head resting on hand and arm until you posted, “3rd MAW Crash Fire & Rescue.
El Toro or Iwakuni?
I spent a little time there with my Marines once or twice. Used to send Marines on line, to do FOD checks.
Very, very boring and lowly work. But very important to a few highly over educated, trained, and boastful Marine aviators.
Freebird1971
Posted November 10, 2009 at 8:27 pm | Permalink
Amway
Only took the scumbag 11 minutes to die,bet it took some of his victims longer than that. He should have suffered more
—————————-
Wouldn’t the electric chair and/or the bullet be quicker and more humane?
(Humane Killing, heh heh.)
DavidB
Posted November 10, 2009 at 8:15 pm | Permalink
During the Bush presidency, Congressmen were told quite bluntly that they had 48 hours to bail out the financial system or face a global economic collapse.
DavidB puts this in perspective. It must have been a dire emergency. Demcorats have an excuse for spending 1.5 trillion dollars overnight. I suppose Bush, the one republican in the decison making process also has this excuse?
Would an FOD check remove certain posters on the WE Blog?
Amway,
Miramar in San Diego,BTW last month he passed his rookie exam and is no a full fledged Wichita firefighter
Oh and an early happy Veteran’s day to all the vets here and every where for that matter
no=now
American_Way
Posted November 10, 2009 at 8:36 pm | Permalink
DavidB
Posted November 10, 2009 at 8:15 pm | Permalink
During the Bush presidency, Congressmen were told quite bluntly that they had 48 hours to bail out the financial system or face a global economic collapse.
DavidB puts this in perspective. It must have been a dire emergency. Demcorats have an excuse for spending 1.5 trillion dollars overnight. I suppose Bush, the one republican in the decison making process also has this excuse?
==============================
Maybe David & Chas are off gathering rocks…
David never answered how Obama voted on this issue, or what Obama’s statements were on this.
David also never answered the question as to what Geithner’s involvment and position was on this decision.
Strange….
Say, what’s the alternative HIP website called?
Pure Prairie League or something like that?
“Strange….”
No, not strange for DavidB.. He likes to make grandiose statements and then slink off into the screen edges.
He may or may not appear until tomorrow, and will embellish upon whatever is the hot item of the day.
And act like nothing ever happened.
“Pure Prairie League or something like that?”
Awesome one hit wonder: Amie…
One of my favorites, as well as a special friend of mines who can play guitar.
David may be Chas’ date to the Neanderthal Ball this evening.
“he passed his rookie exam ”
Show him my post on FOD. He will know. And that he will eventually over time, gyrate back to his MC Ancestry. Marine Corps League.
And that just between him and me, we know that the fire fighters initiation wasn’t jack sheat to what he had been through in his trial by fire to earn the title United States Marine. A very great and honorable achievement to become a fire fighter! But we know. (and yes hawling fire hoses up the tower is a physically challenging event.)
But no matter how long he lives, no matter how many children he has, or eventures he endures – there is none that will surpass or achieve the standing in his memory as graduation day.
He is a welcome and proud member of a very elite corps.
God bless him.
“David may be Chas’ date to the Neanderthal Ball this evening.”
It is interesting they both disappear at the same time….
Saw a documentary on PBS about the making of Hoover Darn.
It was a Government project dontcha know.
Some of the worst working conditions, lowest wages, many killed on the job, discriminatory….
The city of Boulder was set-up as a Government town to house the workers and families. The security was sorta nice, but you sacrificed your freedom for it. Nice 2 or 3 room shanty houses built for $500 outta plywood in the middle of the desert with no air conditioning. $15/month rent.
All run by the Government.
In the future, we will have the same, only they will be called Obama Towns.
I think the workers made $1.25/day, including 3 squares.
Scott Roeder
Anyone remember who he is?
[Yawn!] Most of America does not and has not a clue.
Tiller the baby killer? I think a very very few more might remember his name.
But outside of Kansas?
Crickets are chirping….
Pure Prairie Lickers?
Let me take a break. I’ll wait for the chickens to return to roost when they think the coast is clear.
Typical liberals.
I suspect the Libs have panties all in a bind. Plus they have been bloggin a lotta hours already today. When you don’t have a job, bloggin must be like work to them.
Trapper John: Well, what’s the matter with the Libs today?
Hawkeye Pierce: I don’t know, I think it’s one of those ladies’ things.
#
Daniel
Posted November 10, 2009 at 7:44 pm | Permalink
American_Way,
Do you have a link to the text you posted in your 6:57 pm post? I’d love to read the rest of that story.
Thanks.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
No link? No surprise.
American_Way
Posted November 10, 2009 at 8:17 pm | Permalink
“Party time for the DC sniper!”
Ha! Love it. Wish they put it on Pay Per View. Profits to go to the families of victims. I’d pay. Get my popcorn ready.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Vengeance is American_Way’s saith the Lord.
American_Way
Posted November 10, 2009 at 9:22 pm | Permalink
Let me take a break.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Dang! My timing is off today.
Daniel
Posted November 10, 2009 at 9:29 pm | Permalink
#
Daniel
Posted November 10, 2009 at 7:44 pm | Permalink
American_Way,
Do you have a link to the text you posted in your 6:57 pm post? I’d love to read the rest of that story.
Thanks.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
No link? No surprise.
———————–
I posted about the New Orleans ACORN raid several days ago as well.
No surprise you didn’t read it.
And all those garters and gussets that are hidden by a Marine Corps dress uniform are about the gayest thing I’ve ever seen this side of Navy sailor suits.
Well, the Are a Dept. of the Navy.
they
“Party time for the DC sniper!”-AmWay
It should indeed be on PayPerView.
====================================================
Hey Cosmo, you Astroclimatologophysicisticalmicrobiologicalisttechnician Phd-itista,
Check me…I’m running away from your truth. I just don’t care about the Earth anymore. I’m ridin’ on the “Indifference Train”, brah.
If anything is causing global warming, I’m blaming H.A.A.R.P.
See we both win. We both believe global warming to be man-made. I just believe it to be a military experiment gone awry and the best way to cover it up is to blame everybody else.
Muahahahahahahahaha.
Daniel
Posted November 10, 2009 at 9:29 pm | Permalink
#
Daniel
Posted November 10, 2009 at 7:44 pm | Permalink
American_Way,
Do you have a link to the text you posted in your 6:57 pm post? I’d love to read the rest of that story.
Thanks.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
No link? No surprise.
===========================
He cited the source as AP. How tough can that be to google?
Here Daniel, silver platter story. Come and get it!
http://www.startribune.com/nation/69406927.html?elr=KArks:DCiUMEaPc:UiacyKUUr
NEW ORLEANS – State investigators raided ACORN offices on Friday, taking away computer hard drives and documents as part of a probe into alleged embezzlement and tax fraud when the organization’s national headquarters was based in New Orleans.
“This is an investigation of everything — ACORN, the national organization, the local organization and all of its affiliated entities, specifically as it relates to any potential violations of Louisiana law,” Assistant Attorney General David Caldwell said.
ACORN staff on the scene declined to comment, but an attorney for the group said in a statement the raid was prompted by allegations that former ACORN employees had removed or altered electronic documents and may do so in the future.
#
Regular
Posted November 10, 2009 at 9:35 pm | Permalink
I posted about the New Orleans ACORN raid several days ago as well.
No surprise you didn’t read it.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Actually, I did read it. In fact, I posted the rest of the story as well as a link to the story.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/11/open-thread-116-4/#comment-691202
American_Way’s text seems to have just appeared from the ether.
JimJohnson
Posted November 10, 2009 at 9:42 pm | Permalink
Here Daniel, silver platter story. Come and get it!
=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Thanks, American_Way!
JimJohnson
Posted November 10, 2009 at 9:42 pm | Permalink
Here Daniel, silver platter story. Come and get it!
=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Upon further review, it would appear that the text in American_Way’s post is nowhere to be found in the article that you linked to.
Imagine that.
Like I said, American_Way’s text seems to have just appeared from the ether.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/11/open-thread-1110-2/#comment-692780
Dawn of the Acorn Voter:
http://forthardknox.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/acorn-zombie-turnout-48670.jpg
JimJohnson
Posted November 10, 2009 at 9:55 pm | Permalink
Dawn of the Acorn Voter
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Heh, heh…
What are the rights of the undead according to the Constitution? Do they have any 14th Amendment protections?
Pleefer, can I get a ruling, here?
Daniel whines:
Upon further review, it would appear that the text in American_Way’s post is nowhere to be found in the article that you linked to.
Imagine that.
Like I said, American_Way’s text seems to have just appeared from the ether.
———————–
I’ve read about 10 different versions of that story just now and they all say basically the same thing.
I think you need to drop your pretext of accusation and attitude. It servers no purpose.
serves…
Pleefer,
I guess that you also don’t know What date marks the “foreseeable future”.
Or how the people on the the OISM petition publicly “retract their signatures”.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/11/koch-foundations-provide-%e2%80%98money-behind-the-movement%e2%80%99/#comment-692552
Dumbazz Roeder, confesses to the media because he thinks he’s going to use the ‘necessity defense’ but tonight his lawyers say no way, since there isn’t such a defense. Will he now retract his confession?
Maybe he’ll now use the “he had it comin’ defense”.
#
Regular
Posted November 10, 2009 at 10:05 pm | Permalink
I think you need to drop your pretext of accusation and attitude. It servers no purpose.
=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Your concern is duly noted.
*rolls eyes*
You know, up thread there were three posters piling on Chas and posting utter non-sense trying to get a rise out of him. That really doesn’t serve any purpose either, does it?
Where was your concern then?
Gotta get my beauty sleep. Long day tomorrow.
At 8 am, Daniel is giving me Google lessons.
At 10 am, Chas is giving a bible study, with a focus on gay verses and 99 reasons why beastiality is not such a bad thing as long as a condom is used and consent is obtained.
BJ at 1 pm is giving lessons on self-reliance.
Monkey is providing ballet lesson at 2 pm, then sensitivity training afterwards.
Capn is providing a Marxist lesson at 3 pm, with a special feature on why Government Owned GM is such a good thing for the UAW.
Some lessie farmer is gonna provide planting lessons at 4 pm and will display 99 ways to use a hoe handle.
Finally I get a home cooked meal and lessons on the joy of raising children from PMom at 6 pm.
Long day ahead, yes sireee.
What purpose does this post serve, Regular? Where is your admonishment for American_Way?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/11/open-thread-1110-2/#comment-692833
For all the strut a Semper Fi” screechers –
Here’s a film to put on your Netflix queue:
Taking Chance
” Based on an article by Marine Lt. Col. Michael Strobl, this HBO original film tells the story of Strobl’s emotional experience traveling across America as a volunteer escort officer for the body of fallen 19-year-old marine Chance Phelps. Along the 2004 journey to Phelps’ hometown in Wyoming, Strobl (portrayed by Emmy nominee Kevin Bacon) witnesses — and is moved by — acts of respect by everyday Americans.”
Pretty poignant such things happen every day.
“Heh, heh…
What are the rights of the undead according to the Constitution? Do they have any 14th Amendment protections?
Pleefer, can I get a ruling, here?”-Dantheman
====================================================
Well, in my professional opinion, the undead in question would of course had to have been born in or a naturalized citizen of the USA prior to expiration. If that be the case, then of course, 14th Amendment protections would apply.
People who are “pro life” must never have been forced to live with a teenager.
“Pleefer,
I guess that you also don’t know What date marks the “foreseeable future”.
Or how the people on the the OISM petition publicly “retract their signatures”.”-Cosmo
==================================================
December 21, 2012
With an eraser.
Raptor–
You really are one big baby. I can’t take your extremely tiresome whining.
You’re on ignore.
Regular intones, I’ve read about 10 different versions of that story . . .
Yeah, one original lie by the lying liars, and then re-posted endlessly by the right-wing blogosphere who care not whether it is true or not.
Did it also say that Obama is a Muslim, that he was born in Kenya, that he refuses to release his “vault copy” birth certificate, that he hates whites even though his mother was white and he was raised by whites, that the health care bill has “death panels”?
You mean those sources, Regular?
Then there’s “okobserver” jumping all over the “Obama’s Senior Thesis” hoax as if it were real.
It takes about ten minutes of listening to wing-nut radio or the Pox Noise Channel to get all the WE Blog CONs’ talking points du jour.
Kinda sad to watch every day, really.
But it’s what angry white males in Kansas thrive on.
Heh, MHawk.
And who can forget the cream of the Republic crop standing in front of photos of heaped bodies from a Nazi CONcentration camp saying “this is Obama-care?”
The party of Lincoln willfully turning itself into the party of Joe McCarthy and Rush Limbaugh.
Raptor whines like the little girl he is in the last couple days, “rage” referred to someone he disagreed with as a “deadbeat”, capn used gross anatomical insults . . .
It’s true that in jest I said that you had no thing.
I had no idea that it was true, which judging from your response it was.
My apologies–war wound or something, eh?
Anyway, you’re still on ignore.
I’m gonna re-post this on tomorrow’s Open Thread –
But for you insomniacs and late owls –
The Parable of the Old Man and the Young
by Wilfred Owen
So Abram rose, and clave the wood, and went,
And took the fire with him, and a knife.
And as they sojourned both of them together,
Isaac the first-born spake and said, My Father,
Behold the preparations, fire and iron,
But where the lamb for this burnt-offering?
Then Abram bound the youth with belts and strops,
And builded parapets and trenches there,
And stretched forth the knife to slay his son.
When lo! an angel called him out of heaven,
Saying, Lay not thy hand upon the lad,
Neither do anything to him. Behold,
A ram, caught in a thicket by its horns;
Offer the Ram of Pride instead of him.
But the old man would not so, but slew his son,
And half the seed of Europe, one by one.
==
The poet, Wilfred Owen, wrote this in a trench.
He was killed in action on November 4, 1918.
According to legend, the telegram announcing his death was delivered to his parent the exact moment — the 11th minute of the 11th day of the 11th month — just as church bells started peeling to mark the first Armistice day.
The specifics of the story are probably too good to be true.
But Wilfred Owen’s poetry is real and good and timeless.