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∞On this date, October 29th∞
1682 William Penn lands in what will become Pennsylvania
1811 1st Ohio River steamboat leaves Pittsburgh for New Orleans
1923 Turkey proclaimed a republic (National Day)
1929 “Black Tuesday,” Stock Market crashes triggers “Great Depression”
1956 – “The Huntley-Brinkley Report” premiered on NBC.
1968 Hey Jude by The Beatles was number one on the music charts.
1990 Ice Ice Baby by Vanilla Ice was number one on the music charts.
•Notable Quotes•
Now, now my good man, this is no time for making enemies.
- Voltaire, on his deathbed in response to a priest asking that he renounce Satan.
The choir always tittered and whispered all through the service. There was once a church choir that was not ill-bred, but I have forgotten where it was.
- The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, Mark Twain
•Odd Facts•
A fetus develops fingerprints at eighteen weeks!
The fear of vegetables is called Lachanophobia!
The U.S. army packs Tabasco pepper sauce in every ration kit that they give to soldiers.
An office desk has 400 times more bacteria than a toilet.
•Humorous Bits•
“It is amazing how quickly the kids learn to drive a car, yet are unable to understand the lawnmower, snowblower or vacuum cleaner.”
—Ben Bergor
“A cousin of mine who was a casualty surgeon in Manhattan tells me that he and his colleagues had a one-word nickname for bikers: Donors. Rather chilling.”
—Stephen Fry
Eagles may soar in the clouds, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines. ~Attributed to both Jason Hutchison and John Benfield
Man was predestined to have free will. ~Hal Lee Luyah
I guess it is how you look at the “Highly Successful” ‘Cash for Clunkers’ program. Does not look all that successful to me.
“This summer’s so-called Cash for Clunkers program cost taxpayers $24,000 per vehicle sold, according to an analysis by Edmunds.com.”
http://www.autoobserver.com/2009/10/cash-for-clunkers-tab-24000-per-vehicle-of-taxpayer-cash.html
dan..today I hope you worry about what is happening now as opposed to your continued drivel about what what others did yesterday………….provide something of value if you can
Boxlock20
Posted October 29, 2009 at 7:37 am | Permalink
And some want the incompetent Federal government taking over our health care. Look at how well they did with this.
Cash for Clunkers Results Finally In: Taxpayers Paid $24K per Vehicle Sold, Reports Edmunds.com
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20091028006345&newsLang=en
Is there something ELSE you’d like to tell us “Hud”…er…’Bawkslots”?
bj.that Government could screw up a wet dream
“Cash for Clunkers” moved brand new cars in the economy you Republicans broke. How are those new cars selling now that the program is over?
Government is superior to the “free” market every time. Time to get business interests out of the way and let Government do its job.
““Cash for Clunkers” moved brand new cars in the economy you Republicans broke.”
You know BJ, the Edmunds reports does not show the “Cash for Clunkers” moving that many ‘new cars’ into the economy.
Maybe you need to provide a link to your reference.
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
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Oh my.
“In an interview with CBS Early Show anchor Maggie Rodriguez, Johnston reveals Palin repeatedly made jokes about her son Trig, now 18 months old, who has Down syndrome. He claims that when Palin arrived home from work, she’d regularly ask, “Where’s my reta—-((rded) baby?” Johnston claims he was in shock when he first heard it and goes on to say, “I think she was joking, but that doesn’t make it right.”
bj…..you really are stupid aren’t you…………everyone that i knew that used cash for clunkers did have a clunker, had a job, could have afforded to buy anyway and was probably going to……….they just took the handout we could not afford nor need………………heck i would have thought you would have been mad that they got the handout instead of you
Government CAN work. Despite the worst efforts of you cons to prove otherwise. Successful Government programs beating out the “free” market are something you had best get used to.
BlueJay
Posted October 29, 2009 at 8:03 am | Permalink
Government is superior to the “free” market every time. Time to get business interests out of the way and let Government do its job.
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Of course it is.
No legitimate business can run trillions in debt and still get loans.
bj…the sky is falling………heard that from one of palin’s x friends……..
The people who cast the votes don’t decide an election, the people who count the votes do.
– Joseph Stalin
I wonder if election night was particularly rough on little Trig.
A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both.
– Dwight D. Eisenhower
bj.based on your posts on how you feel about your son, i’m confident that everyone of trigs nights are better than what your son’s are
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.
– George Washington
bj.you only support the government’s programs as better because with your outstretched hand you are sure you will get more for nothing…..
“Palin repeatedly made jokes about her son Trig, now 18 months old, who has Down syndrome. He claims that when Palin arrived home from work, she’d regularly ask, “Where’s my retar— baby?”
Well work isn’t a problem for Palin anymore. I wonder if that will make her a more loving mother?
Levi Johnston..tick tick tick tick tick.
Of course, Sarah Palin says we should dismiss what her ex future son in law and father to her only grandchild has to say because he is planning on doing a spread for Playgirl. Something about “if he would do that for attention, what else would he do?” (paraphrasing)
But let us remember where Sarah Palin got HER start. Her road to success started on the runway of a beauty pageant.
Hmm, what ELSE might she do for attention?
You’re comparing beauty pagents to pornography.
I’m sure women love you.
U.S. Economy Started to Grow Again in the Third Quarter
Gross domestic product expanded at an annual rate of 3.5 percent in the three months ending in September, a significant spike from a relatively shrunken base. The economy had contracted at annual rates of 0.7 percent and 6.4 percent in the second and first quarters of this year, respectively.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/30/business/economy/30econ.html?hp
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Looks like the economy may be well into recovery in time for the next election cycle.
Republicans are going to look pretty silly if all they have to offer is “NO”, and “WPE”.
Oh, what will Repubs use to frighten us this time?
Oh, what will Repubs use to frighten us this time?
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Let’s see the economy and the swine flu were already taken…so um…I got nothing.
To CapnAmerica:
Read of your M1 Garrand yesterday; color me jealous. Enjoy that piece of history, and remember the price that was paid by the young men who carried it.
A word of caution, however, if you didn’t know, and perhaps you do. Do NOT shoot off the shelf modern 30-06 ammo through it; that ammo is for bolt guns, and will damage the semi-auto Garrand. Shoot surplus ammo (it’s likely corrosive, so clean promptly and well), shoot ammo made specifically for that rifle (Hornady makes a loading, among others), or roll your own.
Shoot it in good health.
Now there’s a CIC!
DOVER AIR FORCE BASE, Del. – Standing in the pre-dawn darkness, President Barack Obama saw the real cost of the war in Afghanistan: The Americans who return in flag-covered cases while much of the nation sleeps in peace.
In a midnight dash to this Delaware base, where U.S. forces killed overseas come home, Obama honored the return of 18 fallen Americans Thursday. All were killed in Afghanistan this week, a brutal stretch that turned October into the most deadly month for U.S. troops since the war began.
The dramatic image of a president on the tarmac was a portrait not witnessed in years. Former President George W. Bush spent lots of time with grieving military families but never went to Dover to meet the remains coming off the cargo plane. Obama did so with the weight of knowing he may soon send more troops off to war
Drink the kool-aid.
Your moved by a photo op and not action.
You are part of the problem sir.
Phantom
Posted October 29, 2009 at 8:54 am | Permalink
Now there’s a CIC!
DOVER AIR FORCE BASE, Del. – Standing in the pre-dawn darkness, President Barack Obama saw the real cost of the war in Afghanistan: The Americans who return in flag-covered cases while much of the nation sleeps in peace.
In a midnight dash to this Delaware base, where U.S. forces killed overseas come home, Obama honored the return of 18 fallen Americans Thursday. All were killed in Afghanistan this week, a brutal stretch that turned October into the most deadly month for U.S. troops since the war began.
The dramatic image of a president on the tarmac was a portrait not witnessed in years. Former President George W. Bush spent lots of time with grieving military families but never went to Dover to meet the remains coming off the cargo plane. Obama did so with the weight of knowing he may soon send more troops off to war
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Although I dont agree with him on most thing things, I will acknowledge with some surprise that Obama did do something to show he does care about our troops. I just hope that seeing this return will prompt him to do something to make the scene he witnessed less and less frequent.
Boeing picks S. Carolina for 2nd 787 line
“http://seattle.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2009/10/26/daily25.html?ana=e_bjtt”
“…negotiations between Boeing and the Machinists Union that had broken off. In the talks, Boeing wanted the union to adopt a long-term no-strike clause in exchange for assembling the second assembly line in Everett, Wash., according to published reports. The negotiations ultimately broke down.”
Isn’t Wichita the “Air Capital of the World”??? Why didn’t the 787 line come here? Oh, that’s right, same reason they aren’t going to build the line in Washington. The UNION. Here it is, the final nail in the coffin for the union… They did this to themselves by striking. Maybe now they will realize their mafia style tactics along with their overpaid membership will realize the only way to get and keep a job is to take responsibility for their actions, their work and accept a normal wage.
Its time to give up on aircraft industry in this town and find a new teat to suck from…
Wake-up Brewer et al, there are dozens of industries out there that need a home, why not wind and solar technology? Why not transportation? Why not carbon fiber tech?
Its time to diversify Wichita BEFORE we become the next Detroit.
Or, maybe it was to placate the South, now that they’ll get a boeing plant they’ll be less crying if they don’t get the Airbus plant.
Newsletter would love to participate in the race to the bottom.
We can not let those familys have made their great sacrifices for naught.
Correct me if I’m wrong here newsletter,
…but didn’t the Division of Boeing, Boeing Commercial Airplanes, sell their civilian production to Spirit Aerosystems – and wouldn’t compete for those types of contracts?
Boeing maintained their military system at Wichita.
That means Boeing in Wichita wouldn’t qualify for the production of 787. Is this not correct?
“That means Boeing in Wichita wouldn’t qualify for the production of 787. Is this not correct?”
This is correct, my whole point is that Wichita is no longer the Air Capital and its time to find a new horse to follow…
Phantom, South Carolina is a bit far away from the Airbus plant in Alabama…
Economy grows by 3.5 percent, signals recession may have ended
Washington Post
The U.S. economy roared to life in late summer, as gross domestic product rose at a 3.5 percent annual rate in the July through September period. It was the best quarter for growth in two years though analysts warned that it was fueled largely by government recovery programs.
The new data on GDP, which the Commerce Department released Thursday morning, is strong evidence that the recession that began in December 2007 ended sometime this summer.
As a native of the ‘Deep South’ I have watched the transformation from backwards ‘hillbillies’ (like KS Rep Otto) to a tech haven. Their tech training is both ‘hi-tech’ in places like Huntsville (Redstone Arsenal), Ga Tech, Research Triangle and others as well as ‘low-tech’ with Ga State, DeKalb College and DeKalb Tech and many others. Their capabilities have grown tremendously over the years.
While it may be popular to just bash unions I would add the suppliers here. They have become fat and comfortable with high mark-ups and high tolerance of ‘re-work.’ That simply will not fly in a global economy.
Detroit prided itself for many decades as the “Car Capital” (Motor City). As we all know, this has all come crashing down as the “Detroit Three” both fell in market share and out-sourced so much of their work outside the country. Meanwhile the “in-sourcing” by Toyota etc etc etc has gone elsewhere. Sounds a lot like Boeing. Today the advice being given to an unemployed Detroit worker is to leave town. Should a laid-off Boeing worker leave town and go to Charleston?
There is a sort of sweet irony here. The South got harmed badly when Lockheed foundered – largely as a result of Boeing getting all the fat military contracts. Seems now the shoe is on the other foot.
This is not a race to the bottom. Go to Charleston. Go to Atlanta. Go to Chattanooga. This is a race to the top … and the South has definitely risen.
From Senator Roberts address to the Senate on the proposed Health Care Reform bill.
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40 percent excise tax on high cost insurance
80 percent will come from payroll taxes
Individual Mandate is an excise tax.
Means IRS will tax you if you don’t buy a health care plan approved by the government
– Increase of Roll of IRS in Health Care Reform
500 billion dollar tax increase supervised by the IRS
— No money for expansion in IRS to administrate the Health Care Cop Role, which means that a future bill increasing the size of the IRS is not yet appropriated and flying under the radar of the American Public. Possilby billions of more dollars in expense not added to the cost of the health care reform bill.
“Today the advice being given to an unemployed Detroit worker is to leave town. Should a laid-off Boeing worker leave town and go to Charleston?”
Yeah, probably so. You have to go where the jobs are. I have done it more than once in my career. Or, you can start a business, or learn a new career that is in demand, or sit and whine. That’s the thing about this country, you get to choose.
I agree littlejohn. I, too, have moved across country. And now, since family issues stand in the way of leaving, I have learned a new career. My point is that Wichita needs to do much the same – ‘learn’ (develop) new industries. Like Chattanooga did. Like Montgomery did. Like Pittsburgh did. Like Atlanta did. Like Charleston did.
Just breaking: Two people shot in L.A. Synagogue. Police have shooter and investigating as a hate crime. – FoxNews
It didn’t take long for the new crime bill to be tested.
donnd – and if it is shown to be anti-Semitism it definitely SHOULD be prosecuted as hate-crime. And, if so they should also look ‘behind the crime’ for any sort of network behind it.
House Dems unvail health care bill. Dem leader Hoyer brags about how MOST of the bill was the “most transparent” he’d ever wittnessed.
What a joke. The REST of the bill done behind locked doors. What was the REST of the bill?
Quid Pro Quo exemtions and favors to he highest bidder?
LJ, You wouldn’t go by Big John sometimes do you?
bth-
I have to agree. Wichita needs to actively court other industries. But everyone who works in aviation industry understands the cyclic nature of the business, or they should. This particular time it has gone to crap quicker and perhaps deeper than most other, but downturns are not than uncommon.
Remember when Pelosi charged that the CIA had lied and the CONs went nuts.
And now it has been established that the CIA probably DID lie?
Where’s the CON outrage now?
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Schakowsky: GOPers Who Slammed Pelosi On CIA Lie Charge Should Apologize
Zachary Roth | October 28, 2009, 6:25PM
A top Democrat on the House Intelligence committee says Republicans who criticized Nancy Pelosi’s claim that the CIA lied to her now owe the Speaker an apology.
Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), who has been helping lead a committee probe into the CIA’s process for briefing lawmakers, asserted yesterday that the agency had misled or outright lied to Congress five times since 2001. One of those cases, Schakowsky confirmed, concerned the 2002 torture briefing at which, Pelosi has claimed, she was lied to about waterboarding. Republicans, led by Minority Leader John Boehner, had savaged her for that charge.
Moments ago, Schakowsky was asked on MSNBC whether Republicans now owed Pelosi an apology. “I certainly think they do,” she said.
Two people shot in L.A. Synagogue. Police have shooter and investigating as a hate crime. – FoxNews
Does calling it a “hate crime” make the victims any more dead or injured? Does it make the act any more worthy of punishment? Remember – motive is not an element of the offense.
Hate crimes legislation is little more than the same kind of pandering that produces genius ideas like giving SS recipients $250 as a blatant Democratic political bribe.
donndublin-
No, sorry.
donndublin-
No, sorry.
Just breaking: Two people shot in L.A. Synagogue. Police have shooter and investigating as a hate crime. – FoxNews
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Remember when the Feds said that the biggest threat to peace in the US was “right-wing hate groups” and the right-wingers went nuts.
The Feds were right.
GMC–
If the 250 to SS recipients is a “blatant bribe,” what did you call the “rebate on the national surplus” of $1200 that you and your wife got a few months after Bush was elected?
“everyone who works in aviation industry understands the cyclic nature of the business”
Cars and steel were cyclic too. However, their final declie has NOT been cyclic but rather structural as the industries became global. So with aircraft. Boeing got fat destroying its domestic competition – often using ‘questionable’ contracting with the government. The justification given for allowing Boeing a monopoly was that they would compete on the world stage. Now that they are being called on that things are not prety.
Ben,
Things in the south have gone downhill ever since Royal Crown Cola and ‘Moon Pie’ have fallen in supply at stores. :)
Nothing says fall like mirepoix in the air.
Senator Roberts has no credibility on this issue.
“The attack occurred 10 miles from a 1999 shooting at a Jewish community center where white supremacist Buford Furrow wounded three children, a teenager and an adult. He later killed a letter carrier
Read more: http://www.kansas.com/wireupdates/story/1032435.html#ixzz0VLA2m5Pu”
GMC70 – the reason for the hate crime approach is to go after the networks that support these crimes. These networks – like the ones that supported the Atlanta Olympic bomber and Scott Roeder – are often nation-wide in scope. That requires a different sort of approach than local criminal activity.
Epic fail.
http://www.motifake.com/epic-fail-screwed-demotivational-poster-28479.html
The reasons for hate crime legislation is well established throughout the entire world… it is only an issue for the ideologues.
Ideologues are not prone to changing their minds.
It’s the law of the land … move on.
bth-
I believe you to be wrong about hate crimes legislation. There is nothing in the laws that I have seen to broaden the investigation. However, there are already laws agains “conpiracy to committ…” on the books. No need for hate crimes legislation, except to pander to groups of one form or another. That statement does not disregard the anger of these groups who get targetd. I understand that. However, I stand that violent criminal acts should be prosecuted to the fullest extant of the law, regardless of the victim.
DNC Uses Flag Desecration Video to Raise Funds
A Democratic fundraising video on President Obama’s political Web site shows an American flag mural being covered in graffiti and desecrated with slogans about health care reform.
To continue reading the story click here
DNC Uses Flag Desecration Video to Raise Funds
Glad we have a first amendment to protect those voicing their opinions.
If you don’t like it, don’t watch it.
CapnAmerica,
“Remember when the Feds said that the biggest threat to peace in the US was “right-wing hate groups” and the right-wingers went nuts.
The Feds were right.”
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1. How do you know it was a “right-wing-hate group” that did this?
2. How is 2 people being shot in the legs “the biggest threat?”
Every single time there is a shooting like this you are the first one to make up this complete BS.
And you never admit you were wrong or own up to it after you are proven wrong.
“You’re comparing beauty pagents to pornography.”
Kia was referring to my earlier remarks about Sarah Palin and her ex future son in law Levi Johnston.
(Levi is said to be considering an appearance in Play girl and Sarah Palin started her career in a beauty pageant.)
Well, I’ve never seen Playgirl. But if it is the female counterpart for Playboy, I would say it is less pornographic than a beauty pageant. Playboy is the artistic and tasteful exhibition of the human body. A beauty pageant objectifies women into strutting about in various costumes for points. Like we don’t have enough of THAT in society.
Nathan–
1. When have you proven me wrong?
2. How do I know that it is a right-wing hate group? Because by definition anti-Semites who shoot Jews are right-wing (KKK, Aryan Nation, White Aryan Resistance, Christian Identity Movement, etc. etc.)
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Frank Schaeffer is an outspoken critic of the politicized Christian evangelical right. He sees the “End Times” movement as anti-Semitic. He fears that a right-wing terrorist might assassinate the President of the United States.
None of these talking points would be novel on the left, but Schaeffer is hardly a bleeding heart liberal. His father, Dr. Francis Schaeffer, is considered to be the godfather of the modern religious right movement. Schaeffer himself took up the family mission and became a prominent speaker and writer, promoting many of the sentiments that have given rise to the politically active, extremely well organized and zealous movement of today. He left the religious right in the 1980s, and was a Republican until 2000.
In an interview with Raw Story, Schaeffer — who has a new book coming out this month called Patience with God: Faith for People Who Don’t Like Religion (or Atheism) — discussed his concerns about the radicalization of the Christian right and the increasingly violent rhetoric he foresees turning into actual violence.
“Since President Obama took office I’ve felt like the lonely — maybe crazy — proverbial canary in the coal mine,” Schaeffer said. “As a former right wing leader, who many years ago came to my senses and began to try to undo the harm the movement of religious extremism I helped build has done, I’ve been telling the media that we’re facing a dangerous time in our history. A fringe element of the far right Republican Party seems it believes it has a license to incite threatening behavior in the name of God.”
Who shot Tiller dead in his Wichita church? A communist? Al Qaeda? A leftist?
No, it was a Christian fundamentalist, Scott Roeder.
Same as the guy who set the bomb at the Atlanta Olympics, Eric Rudolf.
Same as the guy who blew up the Federal building in Oklahoma City, Tim McVey.
capn..never seen that definition….pull something out…….again
CapnAmerica
Posted October 29, 2009 at 11:54 am | Permalink
Who shot Tiller dead in his Wichita church? A communist? Al Qaeda? A leftist?
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Who shot JFK and RFK?
Both of them leftists…
The Future of Abstinence
It’s been a mainstay of sex ed for more than a decade. Now, as the Obama administration cuts off federal funding, the movement scrambles for money, determined to continue its mission.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/219818
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Thank God, reason prevails in the White House again.
That’s a good point, Regular.
Before Oswald shot JFK, he tried to kill a John-Birch right-winger named Gen. Walker.
Funny that he then killed JFK, the most liberal president we’ve had since FDR.
The motive never really made sense. Oswald apparently liked Kennedy.
As for RFK, he was shot by a Palestinian, not exactly a traditional leftist.
More bad news for I-H8-Obama crowd:
GDP Rises 3.5%, Topping Expectations; Jobless Claims Fall by 1,000 to 530,000
http://www.cnbc.com/
‘Multiyear Arctic ice is effectively gone: expert‘
http://www.reuters.com/article/environmentNews/idUSTRE59S3LT20091029
GMC70 – the reason for the hate crime approach is to go after the networks that support these crimes. These networks – like the ones that supported the Atlanta Olympic bomber and Scott Roeder – are often nation-wide in scope. That requires a different sort of approach than local criminal activity.
No, bth. The reason for hate crimes legislation is to pander to special interests. You don’t need hate crimes legislation to go after the (often imaginary) “networks.” You need, as LJ pointed out, conspiracy law – already well established and on the books.
Try again. You – like CapnA – leap to conclusions to support your preconcieved point of view. Anti-semitism – ugly as it is – is NOT an exclusive creature of any particular political wing. And it turns out the Feds had exactly zero – yes, zero – evidentiary support for their assertions. Even they admitted same, withdrawing the bogus “alert.”
CapnAmerica
Posted October 29, 2009 at 11:52 am | Permalink
Nathan–
CapnAMerica says
2. How do I know that it is a right-wing hate group? Because by definition anti-Semites who shoot Jews are right-wing (KKK, Aryan Nation, White Aryan Resistance, Christian Identity Movement, etc. etc.)”
Further developments
“Police later detained and handcuffed a man less than a mile from the synagogue. The youth, believed to be about 17 years old, matched the “very loose” description of the attacker, who was described as a black man wearing a hoodie, Moore said”
Yep, the damn Aryan nation did it again. Oh-maybe it was the KKK? Or about about the White Aryan Resistance?
Yep.
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SolDevVB
Posted October 29, 2009 at 10:30 am | Permalink
Nothing says fall like mirepoix in the air.
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How do you season that?
How do you season that?
Salt and pepper. It is merely the base for many many wonderful things to come. Freezes well. The smell lasts for decades. It is simply wonderful.
Chuckle… A black guy in a hoodie. That’s great. Now, to be fair, I don’t know his politics, but he is probably not a member of the KKK or the Aryan Nation.
Just another in a long list of silliness from CapnAmerica. I’m embarrassed for you, man.
Good catch LJ. Betting this is the last we hear form Cap’n on this one.
“A fringe element of the far left Democratic Party seems it believes it has a license to incite threatening behavior in the name of elections.”
There fixed it for you
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/09/inquiry-opened-about-new-black-panther-case/
Thanks, I’ll have to try that because I love celery, carrots, and especially onions. So, would you stew it awhile and then add in stew meat or a ham hock or sausage?
Daniel,
The flavors elevate in the trio. Unbelievable.
http://www.recipezaar.com/Mirepoix-119171
A recipe is not a blue print. It is an idea.
Soups, stocks, bases… endless uses. Catch the veg while it is fresh as you can get it. Freeze it and bring it out as you need it.
Oh yeah, and do share your experience here plz.
Authorities have released a photo of the alleged shooter.
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?5d2df77e39.png
Thanks for the tip, Sol.
Lou Dobbs said on his radio show that gunshots have been fired at him, his wife, and their home in the past few weeks — and he blames his critic.
“They’ve created an atmosphere and they’ve been unrelenting in their propaganda,” Dobbs said on his radio show earlier this week.
Chickens come home to roost.
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DavidB
Posted October 29, 2009 at 1:37 pm | Permalink
Chickens come home to roost.
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Got dayum Lou Dobbs!
And this is where my last sentence will ring true:
To CapnAmerica:
And you never admit you were wrong or own up to it after you are proven wrong.
Yeah CapnAmerica, here is that KKK, right-wing, etc… killer:
“The individual was a black male in his late teens to early 20s, wearing a hoodie. Police detained someone who fit that description 45 minutes after arriving on the scene, but they haven’t said if he’s a suspect. That person is talking to investigators.
At this point, police are treating the incident as a random act of violence and investigating it as an assault with a deadly weapon. At a news conference this morning, Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and other officials urged everyone not to rush to assume that the shooting is a hate crime. ”
http://www.scpr.org/news/2009/10/29/lapd-investigates-shooting-north-hollywood-synagog/
CapnAmerica,
Did you catch that last part?
Here it is again:
“…officials urged everyone not to rush to assume that the shooting is a hate crime.”
CapnAmerica, Did you catch that last part? Here it is again: “…officials urged everyone not to rush to assume that the shooting is a hate crime.”
Nathaniel,
What was that last part again? I think I might have missed it the first three times you posted it.
Thanks in advance.
Regular,
This may sound like a bizarre question, probably because it is, but did you happen to speak with Margaret Atwood this morning about the distinction between germs vs. bacteria and virus?
Did the subjects of Crimean hemorrhagic fever, Afghani goat herders, and U.S. Troops come up as well?
“Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), who has been helping lead a committee probe into the CIA’s process for briefing lawmakers, asserted yesterday that the agency had misled or outright lied to Congress five times since 2001. One of those cases, Schakowsky confirmed, concerned the 2002 torture briefing at which, Pelosi has claimed, she was lied to about waterboarding”
So,, are there charges pending? She can assert all she wants….I want to see the evidence. If the CIA lied, then they deserve to have charges brought. If Pelosi lied….same thing. let’s have a public hearing of the evidence.
Time for a congressional investigation, follow it all the way up the previous admin.
Think you have your facts wrong on who put who out of busines:
Airbus Subsidies Have Cut Boeing Profits, Cost Jobs, U.S. Says
Share Business ExchangeTwitterFacebook| Email | Print | A A A By Mark Drajem
Jan. 12 (Bloomberg) — European governments have provided more than $15 billion in subsidized loans to Airbus SAS, helping put two U.S. aircraft makers out of business, costing thousands of American jobs and cutting into the profits of Boeing Co., the U.S. trade office said.
From the same article:
Lockheed Martin Corp. and McDonnell Douglas Corp. had made large, civilian aircraft before leaving that business. McDonnell Douglas is now part of Boeing.
Unfu_ckingreal.
MI “stimulus” funds rec’d : $8,547,293,052
MI Jobs created : 405.32
How do you create .32 of a job?
$21,087,765.35 per “job”.
Recovery.org
Brilliant financial analysis.
In a post 9/11 world, it’s YOU who is suspicious.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6453268/Council-bans-parents-from-play-areas.html
The attack occurred 10 miles from a Jewish community center where white supremacist Buford Furrow wounded three children, a teenager and an adult, in 1999. Furrow later killed a Filipino letter carrier on another street, and is serving a life sentence without chance of parole.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/10/29/us/AP-US-Synagogue-Shooting.html?_r=1&ref=us
Furrow’s left arm and index finger bore deep wounds inflicted in recent moments of self-hatred. His wallet contained an official membership card of Aryan Nations, a militant Neo-Nazi group that wants to empty the world of Jews and dark-skinned people. And he was talking repeatedly about his fantasy of murdering his ex-wife, a fellow neo-Nazi soldier.
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Yeah. That’s what I’m talking about.
Groups that monitor the white-supremacy movement believe Furrow became deeply involved in the early 1990s, when he began spending time at the 20-acre compound in Hayden Lake, Idaho, that is a base for Aryan Nations and the Church of Jesus Christ, Christian.
The church, founded by Richard Butler, holds that people of white Northern European descent are the true Israelites tricked out of their birthright by Jews and forced to live with other races. Disciples believe that Jews are the son of Satan, and blacks, but not whites, are descendants of animals.
Eventually, Furrow rose to the rank of first lieutenant in the Aryan Nations security force, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. It was also on the compound that he met Debbie Mathews, widow of one of the movement’s modern martyrs.
Her husband, Robert Mathews, was the founder of the Order, a racist, anti-Semitic group tied to the June 1984 assassination of Alan Berg, an outspoken Jewish host of a Denver radio talk show. Wanted for a number of other crimes, Mathews was killed later that year during an FBI siege of his house on Whidbey Island.
Nathan–
If the shooter isn’t a hate-filled right-winger, I’ll be happy to say that in this one instance “I was wrong.”
I hope I am wrong.
Unfortunately, history is my side . . .
CapnAmerica,
History is not on your side. It has been so long now, I can’t even remember the last thing you were wrong on here.
You did the same crap you are now and you ended up being wrong.
What does the article you linked to say?
“Even as investigators tried to find a motive, Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and other officials moved to calm fears that the attack was part of any organized anti-Semitic violence.
”We certainly recognize the location and we’re sensitive to that,” Moore said. ”But we do not know that this was a hate crime at all.”
Oh, but CapnAmerica knows!
It must be all the anti-semetic policies of the Democrat party leading to this type of thing.
Greta Van Susteren revealed last night that Rush Limbaugh will be one of
the judges of the 2010 Miss America Pageant.
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American_Way
Posted October 29, 2009 at 4:27 pm | Permalink
Greta Van Susteren revealed last night that Rush Limbaugh will be one of
the judges of the 2010 Miss America Pageant.
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Old news is so exciting!
Why do CONS always seem to come flocking to the support of such Anti-Semitic type crimes??
I dont really have a clue… some guesses maybe… but not really a clue… It is a pretty gutless thing to do….
Pageant officials figured this was the only way to keep Barack Obama
from winning that, too
Chas,
Perhaps you should focus on something smaller.
Like when you use the CAPS key, is it because of your stroke or because you actually wanted to put something in CAPS?
Chas
Posted October 29, 2009 at 4:36 pm | Permalink
Why do CONS always seem to come flocking to the support of such Anti-Semitic type crimes??
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It’s only ONE of the things they have in common with Islamist terrorists.
Late-term abortionist quack and former Tiller employee LeRoy Carhart was in Washington, DC Thursday, standing with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in support of taxpayer funded abortion in the latest version of the House health care bill. The dangerous, criminal viable baby killer and mother killer held a sign promoting the baby-hating group Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice.
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Neocutis, a company with offices in San Francisco, has developed a line of anti-aging products that include an ingredient the company has trademarked as Processed Skin Cell Protein, or PSP, developed from skin cells harvested from aborted babies.
“I dont really have a clue…”
Describes Chas to a T.
Hi faux Preacher!
I’m sorry Chas. As Reverend Way, I really should be showing compassion to Jesus’ children.
Hey democrats! Who knows how to count?”
Not a requirement for some. Just make stuff up:
Washington (AP) – An early progress report on President Barack Obama’s economic recovery plan overstates by thousands the number of jobs
created or saved through the stimulus program, a mistake that White House officials promise will be corrected in future reports.
The government’s first accounting of jobs tied to the $787 billion stimulus program claimed more than 30,000 positions paid for with recovery money. But that figure is overstated by least 5,000 jobs,
according to an Associated Press review of a sample of stimulus contracts.
The AP review found some counts were more than 10 times as high as the actual number of jobs; some jobs credited to the stimulus program were
counted two and sometimes more than four times; and other jobs were credited to stimulus spending when none was produced.
For example:
– A company working with the Federal Communications Commission reported that stimulus money paid for 4,231 jobs, when about 1,000 were produced.
– A Georgia community college reported creating 280 jobs with recovery money, but none was created from stimulus spending.
– A Florida child care center said its stimulus money saved 129 jobs but used the money on raises for existing employees.
Bottom line folks: Obama=liar WPE
Another American Killed in Afghanistan
October 27, 2009
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DoD Identifies Army Casualty
The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.
Sgt. Eduviges G. Wolf, 24, of Hawthorne, Calif., died Oct. 25 in Kunar province, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked her vehicle with a rocket propelled grenade. She was assigned to the 704th Brigade Support Battalion, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colo.
Another American Killed in Afghanistan
October 27, 2009
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DoD Identifies Army Casualty
The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.
Pfc. Devin J. Michel, 19, of Stockton, Ill., died Oct. 24 in Zhari province, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked his unit with an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 12th Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colo.
Nathaniel,
When are you going to admit that your denial of AGW science is wrong?
Another American Killed in Afghanistan
October 29, 2009
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DoD Identifies Marine Casualty
The Department of Defense announced today the death of a Marine who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.
Lance Cpl. Cody R. Stanley, 21, of Rosanky, Texas, died Oct. 28 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 3rd Battalion, 4th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, I Marine Expeditionary Force, Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center, Twentynine Palms, Calif.
Apparently we need a new program called Cash for Congreeman and Obama. They wasted a whole lot of
our money. FREE MONEY:
Cash for Clunkers Results Finally In: Taxpayers Paid $24,000 per Vehicle Sold, Reports Edmunds.com
SANTA MONICA, Calif. – October 28, 2009 – Edmunds.com, the premier resource for online automotive information, has determined that Cash for
Clunkers cost taxpayers $24,000 per vehicle sold.
Nearly 690,000 vehicles were sold during the Cash for Clunkers program, officially known as CARS, but Edmunds.com analysts calculated that only
125,000 of the sales were incremental. The rest of the sales would have happened anyway, regardless of the existence of the program.
Ironically, the average transaction price for a new vehicle in August 2009 was only $26,915 minus an average cash rebate of $1,667.
“This analysis is valuable for two reasons,” explained Edmunds.com CEO Jeremy Anwyl. “First, it can form the basis for a complete assessment of
the program’s impact and costs. Second-and more important-it can help us to understand the true state of auto sales and the economy. For example,
October sales are up, but without Cash for Clunkers, sales would have been even better. This suggests that the industry’s recovery is gaining momentum.”
Remember when democrats were praising their Obama for the Cash for Clunker program!?!?
Another American Killed in Afghanistan
October 29, 2009
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DoD Identifies Army Casualty
The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.
Spc. Brandon K. Steffey, 23, of Sault Sainte Marie, Mich., died Oct. 25 in Laghman province, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked his vehicle with an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to the 178th Military Police Detachment, 89th Military Police Brigade, III Corps, Fort Hood, Texas.
7 More Americans Killed in Afghanistan
October 29, 2009
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DoD Identifies Army Casualties
The Department of Defense announced today the deaths of seven soldiers who were supporting Operation Enduring Freedom. They died Oct. 27 in Arghandab Valley, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked their vehicle with an improvised explosive device. They were assigned to the 1st Battalion, 17th Infantry Regiment, 5th Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 2nd Infantry Division, Fort Lewis, Wash.
Killed were:
Staff Sgt. Luis M. Gonzalez, 27, of South Ozone Park, N.Y.
Sgt. Fernando Delarosa, 24, of Alamo, Texas.
Sgt. Dale R. Griffin, 29, of Terre Haute, Ind.
Sgt. Issac B. Jackson, 27, of Plattsburg, Mo.
Sgt. Patrick O. Williamson, 24, of Broussard, La.
Spc. Jared D. Stanker, 22, of Evergreen Park, Ill.
Pfc. Christopher I. Walz, 25, of Vancouver, Wash.
Obama Stop the Killing, Bring Our Troops Home!
Watch the 5:30 CBS, NBC, ABC national news tonight.
See if Afghanistan is being covered now, the way it was under Bush.
For 7 years of Bush, we heard the daily body counts as the LEAD NEWS STORY on all national network news channels.
And thank God we have a president who honors their sacrifice by going to Dover and viewing the returning soldiers instead of pretending that they don’t exist . . .
Obama honors fallen Americans at Dover
By BEN FELLER (AP) – 1 hour ago
WASHINGTON — Hours after a personal encounter with the grim cost of war, President Barack Obama said Thursday the sight of 18 flag-covered cases holding the remains of Americans killed this week in Afghanistan can’t help but influence his thinking about sending more troops overseas.
“It was a sobering reminder of the extraordinary sacrifices that our young men and women in uniform are engaging in every single day, not only our troops but their families as well,” Obama said from the White House, reflecting briefly on his surprise middle-of-the-night trip to Dover Air Force Base to observe the return of the fallen Americans to the United States.
Speaking softly and somewhat haltingly, Obama said losses such as these are “something that I think about each and every day.”
“See if Afghanistan is being covered now, the way it was under bush.”
You’re kidding right? After the initial invasion and the glowing coverage of how well the invasion went, bush forgot about Afghanistan.
Seems there weren’t enough hard targets there or some such.
bush started shouting “Iraq!” and the news media quite naturally forgot about Afghanistan.
Nathan–
When someone posted the article, they said the shooting occured in the synagague. Actually, it was in a parking garage.
That makes a lot of difference. Had I known that, I wouldn’t have made the inference that I did.
People that shoot up synagagues are anti-Semites.
Parking garages . . . well, not so much.
CapnAmerica, you are correct in part. Bush respected our military, he went to the hospital to visit our Vets (something Obama has yet to do?). He also did honor the dead.
He just didn’t make front page everytime he took a sheat, like Obama does.
But I’m glad Obama did it too. As Whiner-In-Chief he should.
I hope he gets used to it. And you libs do to.
So I’m saving your post CapnAmerica. We will see how America feels about the growing number of killings by Obama in two years or beyond.
But how about the guy who shot up the Unitarian Church . . . and even though he was blazing away with a 12 gauge shotgun, the “gutless and cowardly liberals” threw themselves at him to protect their children and overpowered him?
He did it because he said he wanted to kill liberals and he encouraged others to do what he did.
Are you going to tell me that he was not a CONservative?
Calling the Commander-in-Chief a “whiner” during war-time. Wow. That was treason when Bush was pResident.
How times change . . .
Am_Way–
The soldiers in Afghanistan are fighting the enemies that struck on 9-11, the enemies that you CONs couldn’t stop harping on Clinton for not attacking (except when he did attack them, then it was only to get the press off of the Monica Lewinsky story), the enemies that have vowed to destroy America.
They are doing exactly what they signed up to do, protect America.
Of all people it seems that you would understand that, but as I pointed out yesterday, for a Marine, you’re kind of a big Nancy-boy.
Bush was provided the simple intelligence that the Taliban was downloading the photo’s of US caskets and using them on the internet and local celebrations with chants of, “Death to Americans”, by bouncing hords of muslims.
He did the right thing pulling the plug on that.
Who cares what the enemy does?
We don’t let the enemy dictate how we live.
We kill the enemy.
Daniel
Posted October 29, 2009 at 2:09 pm | Permalink
Regular,
This may sound like a bizarre question, probably because it is, but did you happen to speak with Margaret Atwood this morning about the distinction between germs vs. bacteria and virus?
Did the subjects of Crimean hemorrhagic fever, Afghani goat herders, and U.S. Troops come up as well?
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You are correct. It is a bizarre question, with no reference and probably out of context.
CapnAmerica,
You didn’t know that they were shot outside?
That is your excuse?
Excuse for immediately claiming it must of been some KKK or right-wing nut job…
Pathetic.
Just be a man and say you were wrong and shouldn’t have jumped to conclusions.
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Regular
Posted October 29, 2009 at 5:21 pm | Permalink
Daniel
Posted October 29, 2009 at 2:09 pm | Permalink
Regular,
This may sound like a bizarre question, probably because it is, but did you happen to speak with Margaret Atwood this morning about the distinction between germs vs. bacteria and virus?
Did the subjects of Crimean hemorrhagic fever, Afghani goat herders, and U.S. Troops come up as well?
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You are correct. It is a bizarre question, with no reference and probably out of context.
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I figured it was a long shot. I was listening to the Diane Rehm Show this morning and Frank Sesno, who is filling in for the regular host, was interviewing Margaret Atwood about her latest book, The Year of the Flood. There was a caller, ‘James from Wichita’, who phoned in to take Ms. Atwood to task for using the term ‘germs’ instead of the more scientifically specific ‘bacteria and virus.’ The conversation then moved to the discussion of a Soldier in Afghanistan who contacted and died from Crimean hemorrhagic fever after being in close proximity to Afghani goat herders.
Taking into account the name and location of the caller in addition to your scientific training, I thought it might have been you.
Like I said, it was kind of a long shot.
Capn writes:
“But how about the guy who shot up the Unitarian Church . . . and even though he was blazing away with a 12 gauge shotgun, the “gutless and cowardly liberals” threw themselves at him to protect their children and overpowered him?
He did it because he said he wanted to kill liberals and he encouraged others to do what he did.
Are you going to tell me that he was not a CONservative?”
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Yes, I’ll tell you exactly that. I don’t even have to cross my fingers. Neither was he a liberal. He was a murderer, driven by the kind of whacko nonsense that drives all those kinds of incidents. That you use such incidents to smear those have the audacity to disagree with you tells us nothing about the killing, but speaks volumes about you.
BTW – have a good time shooting the Garrand. For that, I’m jealous. Just be careful; off the shelf 30.06 is NOT the right ammo for the Garrand, and will likely damage it.
” . . . those who have the audacity to disagree with you . . . “
Regular has Industrial Hygiene training.
President Barack Obama is a historical figure for America already.
It is HIGH TIME we recognize President Obama for his biggest achievement to date.
Date/National Debt:
01/21/2009 $10,625,053,544,309.79
10/28/2009 $11,893,668,881,089.01
Total-to-Date:
$1,268,615,336,779.22
It’s a record folks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We need to HONOR Obama for his achievement: Spending more money faster than all American presidents in history combined!!
I suggest we Honor Obama with an Obama Buck. Afterall, people out there are already calling it, “OBAMA MONEY!”
http://eckert82.deviantart.com/art/Obama-Bucks-96759306
Say Cons, let’s post about the Libs posting about Cons.
You know, like the Libs on TBTSNBN do nothing but post complaints about the Cons on the WE Blog.
(They all have new nics on TBTSSNBN!)
On the Lib BTSNBN, why is it the Libs have nothing else to post about on TBTSNBN, constantly whining about the Cons on the WE Blog?
They seem addicted somehow to the WE Blog. They can’t stay away. The Cons have mesmerized them.
Perhaps they are starting to see the light. It’s funny how they describe Chas when they think the Cons are not looking. (Maybe they didn’t tell Chas about their hiding place?)
And it’s also funny how JR/BlueJay/ThunderChild gets beat-up by the Libs on TBTSNBN. BJ is an outcast it seems no matter where he goes. ThunderChild is so far left, the left doesn’t like him either!
And that StevenDavis, you see how he bragged about getting Regular banned? What an ar*ogant and hyp*critical bass he is! And his new bathroom, I mean really, who cares?
On the Lib BTSNBN,Lezbo is as snarky as ever, while claiming to have set-up a Lib Utopian Blog where everything is warm and nice and pleasant, she spews forth vile and venom when describing the Cons there. It seems they think they are the elitists, who can profanely issue proclamations from their high horses and declare the Cons to be profane. They actually think they are on a higher plane then anyone else!
Well, for now let them enjoy the Liberal Depravity of TBTSNBN, as they do need a sanctuary where they can lick eachother’s tasty wounds and self-declare themselves to be Superior Beings and beyond reproach. I bet they wear white and have flowers in their hair over there on the TBTSNBN, just like little fairy princesses.
TBTSNBN must be like heaven to them!
I figured it was a long shot. I was listening to the Diane Rehm Show this morning and Frank Sesno, who is filling in for the regular host, was interviewing Margaret Atwood about her latest book, The Year of the Flood. There was a caller, ‘James from Wichita’, who phoned in to take Ms. Atwood to task for using the term ‘germs’ instead of the more scientifically specific ‘bacteria and virus.’ The conversation then moved to the discussion of a Soldier in Afghanistan who contacted and died from Crimean hemorrhagic fever after being in close proximity to Afghani goat herders.
Taking into account the name and location of the caller in addition to your scientific training, I thought it might have been you.
Like I said, it was kind of a long shot.
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Ah! It all makes sense now.
Too bad, I usually listen to public radio in the morning, but got distracted and didn’t turn it on.
I have some interest in diseases, I took a lot of biological sciences courses in college, as I wanted to specialize in health care industry safety.
Please forgive me BarryOlana, but do you mean:
BTSNBN
The Blog That Shall Not Be Named?
Do you mean, the awful place those liberals hang out and bad mouth Con’s and just talk about us all day long?
What?
You don’t know where TBTSNBN is?
Say Regular, you should know this was posted about you. Sort of a slam on Chas, but he may not have been told about the secret hideout. They slammed BJ too, but he’s used to everyone being against him.
iggydonnelly
October 27, 2009 at 5:14 pm
I “had” to go read it, too. I did not fall off the wagon, I jumped off. I left a post and at the end of it, I said “oops, time to go back to being banned.”
Chas is too easy to get to. That’s why they hound him to death. It’s like the elementary school playground: The kid who can’t take it, is the one who really gets the business.
Regular has been banned twice. I think he is the only one with that distinction, over there. I talked Brownlee into doing it both times. Reg found a way around their bans. Brownlee concluded James was “too smart” to be banned and gave up trying.
Reg always thought I was picking on him. He did not know how much.
I don’t think that the Blog has helped Jay turn to doing better. He gets worse and worse as a result of being there. It’s too bad, really.
http://iggydonnelly.wordpress.com/2009/10/27/tuesday-102709-public-square/#comment-14549
Regular,
You were such a threat to the Libs, that Steven Davis had you banned twice!
Hey Barry, I think many many of those dirty “cons” who post here should be aware of the enlightened kindly and perfect liberals posting about them.
If you stop by to visit, here are a few posters we all know and love:
NICS: New and Old
Tosmarttobegop=WriterDog
Thunderchild=Bluejay/JR/JM
Fnord=lindainks55
Iggydonnelly=StevenDavis
PrairiePond=KansasFarmGirl
6176746f6c6c65=Cosmos
Jammer5=Vaugh Tolle
BadBiker=WSClark
Lilacluvr=PoliticalMomma
There are a few others, minor players for the most part,but some of you may know them.
iggydonnelly
October 27, 2009 at 5:14 pm
I “had” to go read it, too. I did not fall off the wagon, I jumped off. I left a post and at the end of it, I said “oops, time to go back to being banned.”
Chas is too easy to get to. That’s why they hound him to death. It’s like the elementary school playground: The kid who can’t take it, is the one who really gets the business.
Regular has been banned twice. I think he is the only one with that distinction, over there. I talked Brownlee into doing it both times. Reg found a way around their bans. Brownlee concluded James was “too smart” to be banned and gave up trying.
Reg always thought I was picking on him. He did not know how much.
I don’t think that the Blog has helped Jay turn to doing better. He gets worse and worse as a result of being there. It’s too bad, really.
lilacluvr
October 27, 2009 at 7:49 pm
So, is Brownlee the editor/blog monitor? Huh, for being a banned liberal, I sure don’t know much about all this stuff, do I?
Sometimes I think all the Cons who like to fight are just there ‘liking the fight’. They could care less about the issue – they just want to get a reaction out of somebody and when Chas seems to lose control (like I think he did last night), then it just adds to the Cons delight of getting someone’s goat.
But, then again, if I was a Republican today watching my political party being led by the current crop of crazies – maybe I would be looking for a fight too.
This is an example of Lib behavior, the very same behavior they accuse Cons of using all the time!
Of course on the Lib Utopian blog, such a post as this one from Steven E Davis would not be tolerated.
StevenEDavis
Posted October 28, 2009 at 11:03 pm | Permalink
I have not run away, Am-way. You are a puzzy. The kind that smells pretty bad. . . .
ESADYMF… You are so pathetic and stupid… Can’t even beleive I am talking to a dum bass like you….
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/10/open-thread-1028-2/#comment-687086
Monkeyhawk
October 28, 2009 at 8:09 am
I have a theory at least some of the CONs over there are Koch employees.
fnord
September 30, 2009 at 8:48 am
At least our small merry group of addicted bloggers had the foresight to have this place up and running!
Nah, na, na, na, nah!
http://iggydonnelly.wordpress.com/2009/09/22/addiction-disease-or-choice/
PrairiePopulistsAndProgressives.net
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iggydonnelly borrowed his nickname from Ignatius Donnelly, a prairie populist who started the People’s Party in 1892. The original Donnelly was a senator from Minnesota. The people in the Populist party were against the rich and for the common man. In 1892, Ignatius Donnelly said… “The fruits of the toil of millions are boldly stolen to build up colossal fortunes, unprecedented in the history of the world, while their possessors despise the republic and endanger liberty.”
The blogger donnelly has worked in various Kansas Community Mental Health Centers since February 1st, 1982. The blogger has worked at his current place of employment since 1992. Donnelly is a student and sometimes adjunct instructor of psychology. The blogger donnelly is an advocate of progressive politics and free thought. Donnelly has never raised any corn, but he has raised hell if there was no one around to watch, that is. This author believes that same sex marriage is a civil rights issue and is a supporter of this cause. In his spare time donnelly conducts psychological research that combine his interests in “positive psychology” and treatment planning for persons with severe and persistent mental illness. He has one teenage son and one teenage daughter, who both with the aid of many heavy sighs, have learned to tolerate their father.
http://iggydonnelly.wordpress.com/about-our-authors/
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A profane, radical and generally obnoxious l**bian, Prairie Pond gave up politics and an economic consulting business in 2001 to return to Kansas and her family farm. She still lives there with her barn cats, chickens, and Summer the Wonder Dog. In her spare time, Pondy also writes columns for the local newspaper, sells veggies and eggs at local farmers markets, and desperately tries to raise more hell and less corn. So far, she’s succeeding.
Bad Biker
April 6, 2009 at 9:24 am
Random thoughts Part 2…………
I have a confession to make: I have fallen off the wagon a bit. Yes, I have visited that “other” blog and engaged in some “dialog” with a few CONS.
We need a Twelve Step program for those addicted to the activity.
“Hello, my name is Will and I am addicted to antagonizing conservatives on a blog.”
(Apologies to anyone in a real addiction Twelve Step Program.)
I am going to do my best to avoid that activity, if for no other reason than I am slightly more sane when I stay away.
Promise!
(Yeah, I know – my fingers were crossed.)
http://iggydonnelly.wordpress.com/2009/04/06/040609-public-square/
XXX?
A Conservative Sewer Clogged up with Feces of the Most Acrimonious kind
Jump to Comments
I used to refer to the blog that many of us came from as TBTSNBN (The Blog That Shall Not Be Named). Today we are naming them. Some of us still post over at that place, though I would say our visits there are less than in the past. I am betting that it would not be difficult to identify who from here posts over there. (It does amuse me how often those people miss on our dear Lilac).
http://iggydonnelly.wordpress.com/2009/09/22/a-conservative-sewer-clogged-up-with-feces-of-the-most-acrimonious-kind/
Bad Biker
May 31, 2009 at 10:58 am My cooking isn’t very sophisticated – it tends to be relatively simple and hearty – and generally cheap.
DYLAN’S CHILI
This soup is named in honor of my son, who would eat it daily if he could.
INGREDIENTS
1 pound Sweet Italian Sausage
2 Smoked Ham Hocks
3 large potatoes, peeled and cubed
3 stalks of celery, diced
3 15oz cans of kidney beans
1 15 oz can tomato sauce
2 14.5 oz cans of petite diced or stewed tomatoes
2 tablespoons dried parsley
2 teaspoons salt
1 teaspoon black pepper
1 teaspoon (or more) Louisiana Hot Sauce
2 bay leaves
1 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
2 cloves crushed garlic
1 six pack quality American beer.
DIRECTIONS
Get the ingredients together, drink one can of beer.
Brown sausage, cut into bite-sized pieces.
(If you are concerned about the fat content, boil sausage first.)
Skin ham hocks and brown, trim fat if desired.
(Skin the hocks by slicing down one side with a very sharp knife, all the way through the skin, then work your fingers under the cut edge and peel the skin off.)
(If absolutely can’t stand the thought of working with ham hocks, you can substitute cubed ham, but it’s not the same.)
Drink another can of beer.
In a large stock pot, add sausage, ham hocks, potatoes, celery, parsley, beans, tomato sauce, tomatoes, salt, pepper, hot sauce, bay leaves, garlic, Worcestershire sauce.
Cover with water, bring to a boil, then reduce heat to simmer, cover and simmer for about 3 hours.
(Make sure as it simmers that it is covered with sufficient water. Add more water if necessary)
Drink another can of beer.
Remove ham hocks and strip the meat from the bone, trimming fat as you go. Return meat to pot.
(You probably will need to let the hocks cool a bit before working with them. Make sure that they
are far enough back on the counter so the dog doesn’t get them. Dog’s love ham hocks.)
Drink another can of beer, give one of the ham bones to the dog, wrap and put the other bone in the fridge until tomorrow.
After returning the meat to pot, allow it to simmer for ten or fifteen minutes. Another beer is optional
at this point.
Serve with more beer and crusty dinner rolls. Garnish servings with sour cream or grated cheese if desired. If you like a little more heat, you can substitute hot Italian sausage for the sweet.
http://iggydonnelly.wordpress.com/recipes-please-add-them-here/
BJ:
Thunderchild
September 22, 2009 at 3:48 pm
” A Conservative Sewer”
Well, the cons might THINK they own the weblog.
I tend to disagree.
I also thoroughly enjoy helping bring out the worst in them. I’m rather proud of how good at it I seem to be.
In my previous life as a union steward, I was from the time I got up in the morning til I lay my head down at night just LOOKING for combat with such people.
http://iggydonnelly.wordpress.com/2009/09/22/a-conservative-sewer-clogged-up-with-feces-of-the-most-acrimonious-kind/
Yeah but Barry, the libs cannot resist coming back here to see us!!!
They can’t live,
if living is without us.
BarryOlana
Posted October 29, 2009 at 6:34 pm | Permalink
What?
You don’t know where TBTSNBN is?
Say Regular, you should know this was posted about you. Sort of a slam on Chas, but he may not have been told about the secret hideout. They slammed BJ too, but he’s used to everyone being against him.
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Not surprising and its not the first blog Steven Davis (iggydonnelly) has ran. Yeah, I knew it was Steven Davis a long time ago. He reminds of some weasels I knew in the past, who got off on backstabbing, granny-style gossip and general ‘hands-in-each-others-pants’ liberal mantra.
Probably the usual suspects there, the local Libs who think they are superior to other posters and Libs who post here. In fact, lindainks made a statement once, that she was glad that some of the Libs on the WE Blog didn’t post (on yet another blog) where she was – as she felt they were intellectually challenged.
Yeah, I know what they think of Chas, you can smell the Lib hypocrisy all the time if you pay attentioin. They view Chas as a nervous Norvis, a yapping Chihuahua who only serves their purpose in regards to methods distraction. As far as inclusion into their inner circle, not a chance. :)
As far as banning me, Brownlee tried, but failed. Once, he let me back in on his own accord within 24 hours. The other time, I came back in on my own, within an hour. :)
What I did was extremely minor, compared to the gross misconduct by the progressives on the board currently.
You can tell the Libs with the most angst on this blog, they hold onto a grudge like a favorite doll. They’ll repeat some past transgression over and over, beat it to death, dig it up and beat it again. No wonder there are so many divorces…
The thing is, I’ve lived a full life and have had lots of experience which some of the Libs just don’t understand why I have some knowledge on a little bit of everything.
When one has worked with world class scientists, stood shoulder to shoulder with WWII, Korean and Vietnam combat Vets and hear their stories; stood on a lonely bridge in a Cold War Country – no sounds but your heartbeat; and experienced the gaiety, the excitement of the major cities of Europe, it brings a perspective to life.
No brag, just fact – I thank God for the experience and wonder why people are as naive as they are when they’ve probably never been outside of the state of Kansas, except maybe on a vacation.
But, I ramble and time to do the dishes. :)
PS: We also saw the emails between you guys alarming everyone we’ve been found. So funny. The next day you all started posting about anything but the CON’S
and TBTSNBN
Aren’t they cute?!
and TBTSNBN
Aren’t they cute?!
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It’s like an Alinsky Sesame Street. :)
Just for the record, here are a couple of very recent examples of the immaturity level
of the blogger who had Regular banned. I suppose his childish, rambling, swearing,
and dignified posts are indicative of the liberals who feel so much better than the rest of us:
StevenEDavis
Posted October 28, 2009 at 10:16 pm | Permalink
* * * * *
Whine, whine, whine, why don’t your move to another country? We why you don’t. Your health care is paid by the U.S. government. You puzzy!
StevenEDavis
Posted October 28, 2009 at 11:03 pm | Permalink
I have not run away, XXXXXX. You are a puzzy. The kind that smells pretty bad. . . .
ESADYMF… You are so pathetic and stupid… Can’t even beleive I am talking to a dum bass like you….
This is an adult? This is the blogger the editor listened to and banned Regular?
This is the SHINING EXAMPLE OF THE DEMOCRATS?
HDChaplainCorps
Posted October 29, 2009 at 6:38 pm | Permalink
Hey Barry, I think many many of those dirty “cons” who post here should be aware of the enlightened kindly and perfect liberals posting about them.
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I think you nailed them.
No worries Chaplin, they don’t really understand me. I’m probably as academic as they pretend to be and in most settings would be considered a colleague, rather than some ideological spotted hog rooting around in their political garden.
One thing I know and take to heart is that at the final call, God will judge us all. I’m sure there will be no stars in my crown. :)
Bad Biker
September 22, 2009 at 6:45 pm
As much as I hate to admit it, there have been times that I have been a complete and total A on WEBlog.
Once, I actually pi**ed off our mild-mannered fearless leader, one Iggy Donnelly. For that, I sincerely apologize.
I also ran afoul of TC – my fault – and I apologized to him at the Fnord picnic.
WEBlog can do that to you – not making excuses, mind you – but it can get your blood boiling.
http://iggydonnelly.wordpress.com/2009/09/22/a-conservative-sewer-clogged-up-with-feces-of-the-most-acrimonious-kind/
And Linda/fnord, you really really need to get a new photo to post on your new “pretty” blog. That one with your head looking back over your shoulder is old and not very flattering.
Something with bluehair may be more fitting. Good job on the Wordpress. Much improved from earlier attempts.
But still you should stick to posting about the weather and perhaps spend some time bobbing up-and-down in the water with the senior swimmers, than blogging.
Where have all the Liberals gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the Liberals gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the Liberals gone?
Girls have picked them every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?
I fear the ambiance of their Liberal lovenest has been ruined forever.
Well, time to fly to NYC with my bride for supper.
Later all.
Darn who had to go dig up these people. They were prefectly happy in their ignorance and homogenized blogging. Now they will try to float back over.
Oh well I have limited my hours on the blog and went over a little today because I was on hold with the IRS for what seemed like hours.
Plenty of issues left for tomorrow.
“In my previous life as a union steward, I was from the time I got up in the morning til I lay my head down at night just LOOKING for combat with such people.”–BlueJay
And like with everything else in your life….you lost at that too.
DNC Uses Flag Desecration Video to Raise Funds- FOX
As a heart monitor beeps ominously in the background, a graffiti artist paints over the Stars and Stripes with phrases criticizing opposition to the Democratic legislation, including ‘profit over life’ and the crossed-out words ‘death panel.’
Video here:
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200907300041
Yeah well I aint punchin’ somebody else’s clock to make my living bawks. Scurry off and sell something. Gotta meet that quota!
You aren’t doing much of anything to make your living BlueJay. I think you’ve been a failure at whatever you’ve done and have adopted a lie to hide it.
At least I know I have provided a good college education for my kids, and have a good financial start on my grandkids as well.
I have a paid for home and retirement savings. A good career that I can be proud of because I have contributed to he success of others as well as other’s well being.
You are a fake and a liar even to yourself.
I know it…..and you know it.
David,
I think that is one of the 20 videos published recently asking viewers to ‘rate’ each.
Help pick the winning video
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/obamaforamerica/gGMymq
Several of them were pretty good! Some weren’t.
Tall talk from the blog’s biggest no show bawks.
But if it gives you a measure of comfort as everything cultural and capitalistic that you hold dear crumbles around you.
“Tall talk from the blog’s biggest no show bawks.”
And at the same time sure able to ‘punk’ and allow you to make a fool of yourself, ha.
No matter what culturally and capitalistic “crumbles” as a result of the insane DimLibs, I and others of my work ethic will always be ahead of slugs and parasites like you BlueJay….remember that.
LOL… check my video link as the America hater desecrates Old Glory! whhahhaaaaaaa
Ah, Beck. What else would you expect?
Hey bawks I got one for ya.
At my kids school, the understanding homosexuals club is bigger than the bible study.
Electric youth. Gotta love ‘em!
I wonder what boxlock20’s children, and grandchildren will think in the future about boxlock20’s stupid denial of AGW science?
Why old bawks is SO insecure in his beliefs that he couldn’t look me in the eye and tell me that gays being allowed to marry would devalue his marriage. Which for the record, was the only reason I offered to meet him.
I wanted to see his type. While they still are allowed to roam free.
This is what government run healthcare will look like:
“Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said the federal government has known all along there would not be enough H1N1 vaccine to cover all at-risk Americans and that plans to donate a percentage of the U.S. supply to foreign countries is still under consideration.
“We knew from the outset–everybody knew from the outset–we would not have enough to immunize the 150 million Americans who fit into those five priority groups,” Sebelius said during a Wednesday press conference at HHS headquarters in Washington, D.C”
“I wonder what boxlock20’s children, and grandchildren will think in the future about boxlock20’s stupid denial of AGW science?
Well, between that and his increasingly rare prejudices, I think the kiddies will be glad to take grampy bawk’s money but deny to their friends that they KNOW him let alone are related to him.
DavidB
Posted October 29, 2009 at 7:44 pm | Permalink
DNC Uses Flag Desecration Video to Raise Funds- FOX
As a heart monitor beeps ominously in the background, a graffiti artist paints over the Stars and Stripes with phrases criticizing opposition to the Democratic legislation, including ‘profit over life’ and the crossed-out words ‘death panel.’
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Like BJ burning the flag and bragging about it!
“children, and grandchildren will think in the future about”
I don’t know about you cosmos, but I have never considered what my grandparents thought of political events. What they did during the depression, how they survived, what happened to life during WWII.
But I’ve never stopped to think about or even wondered what they thought about minor events, politics, or fairy tales.
BlueJay
Posted October 29, 2009 at 8:14 pm | Permalink
Hey bawks I got one for ya.
At my kids school, the understanding homosexuals club is bigger than the bible study.
Electric youth. Gotta love ‘em!
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So you are ok with your son being gay?
American_Way,
Go eat some more trans fat.
Thunderchild?
“loud” & child.
Yeah, that’s pretty accurate.
okobserver
Posted October 29, 2009 at 7:34 pm | Permalink
Darn who had to go dig up these people. They were prefectly happy in their ignorance and homogenized blogging. Now they will try to float back over.
Oh well I have limited my hours on the blog and went over a little today because I was on hold with the IRS for what seemed like hours.
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So you’ve been over there too?
Wow.. my little old ZIP code in Wichita has benefited from nearly $4,000,000 in Recovery Act loans and grants.
You can click on points on the map and see individual figures and the company that received the funds.
http://www.recovery.gov/transparency/pages/home.aspx?ZipCode=67209&datasource=recipient
Wow! Free money!
No, mostly small business loans,
Yeah JJ I took the bait tonight and had to see what they did to entertain themselves ‘over there’. What a waste of bandwidth. If that is what they want to do I applaud them.
If they want some serious two sided discussions about real issues then they’ll be back. I have noticed some slipping back lately. Guess the conversation over there didn’t grab them.
Off to read. In the middle of a good book.
I think Beck got paid for his “desecration’ act.
“Regular” smugly leans back and declares –
“I have some knowledge on a little bit of everything.”
Uh-huh.
Tell us again the geological impossibility of mountaintop-removal coal mining.
heh HEH!
Palin does it again.
Sarah Palin Charging $100K for Iowa Speech? Not Exactly.
Holly Bailey
Palin in Iowa, November 2008. Photo by Mark Hirsch / Getty Images
Politico’s Jonathan Martin has a good story today about an Iowa conservative group’s efforts to lure Sarah Palin to a fundraising dinner in Des Moines next month. The Iowa Family Policy Center, according to J-Mart, is trying to come up with Palin’s reported $100,000 speaker’s fee in hopes of getting the former governor to headline its Nov. 21 banquet—which just so happens to be the same night Vice President Joe Biden will be in town to headline the Iowa Democratic Party’s Jefferson-Jackson Dinner. But wait a minute: Paying a White House hopeful to come to Iowa? Seriously? Has anyone ever had to do that? Needless to say, the very prospect has other Iowa Republicans up in arms. “If somebody tells me they want me to pay an appearance fee, it tells me they’re not very serious about running for president,” Ed Failor Jr., president of Iowans for Tax Relief and an influential GOP insider, tells Politico. “I found it really, really odd.”
But hang on: did Palin actually ask the group to pay $100K for her appearance? An IFPC spokesman tells Martin he’s “not personally aware” of a speaker’s fee. “There may or may not be, I don’t know,” he tells Politico. For their part, the Palin camp tells NEWSWEEK there’s no fee. Meg Stapleton, Palin’s spokeswoman, tells your Gaggler that Palin “has not requested anything” and that she “does not charge people to campaign for them.” According to Stapleton, Palin would instead cover such travel costs through her political-action committee, SarahPAC. Of course, that doesn’t mean she’s going to Iowa. Palin’s book, Going Rogue, is due out Nov. 17, and she’s got a major publicity tour planned around that, including a Nov. 16 appearance on Oprah. “We don’t believe she will be able to attend with her tightly scheduled book tour, and the group has been told that through formal and informal channels,” Stapleton says in an e-mail this morning. “However, it appears that some enthusiastic members are willing to try anything to entice the governor as we look at her schedule.”
Iowans tend to be pretty defensive of their special place in the primaries. A potential candidate who demands a speaking fee for dignifying them with her presence is likely off putting for them.
okobserver
Posted October 29, 2009 at 8:50 pm | Permalink
Yeah JJ I took the bait tonight and had to see what they did to entertain themselves ‘over there’. What a waste of bandwidth. If that is what they want to do I applaud them.
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I took a look too. Pretty sad.
David that must be a government web site. When I clicked on it it said to come back later it wasn’t working right now. That was the same response I got from the IRS today and all I wanted was to file a 941 electronically.
Twelve IRS people and not one of them knew what was going on. They just kept sending me to a different agent. When I got the first phone number I had called this morning from the last person I talked to I knew I should just hang up and take it to the post office. Another gov agency that is in the red.
” I have noticed some slipping back lately”
Having skimmed through a few months of their blogs posts, the libs “over there” spend most of their time talking about “over here”. They talk about how nasty we all are here, yet they come here to be nasty like the rest of us.
I suppose some of them post there under pressure. They feel they “have to” to get along with those who have convinced themselves they are leaving “over here”.
Too fu king funnny if you ask me.
“I wanted to see his type.”–BlueJay
I have no such need myself….to look at a human parasite. But I did find considerable sport in thinking you were standing around in a cold parking lot, as a result of your lunacy and my punking you, while I was drinking hot coffee, fiddling with a computer, and getting my car serviced, something I depend on for my work.
Who was wasting their time BlueJay….but then who has nothing better to do with their time than waste it looking foolish in a parking lot.
Matthew Hoh: Foreign Service official resigns in protest over Afghan war
Former Marine captain says he no longer knows why his nation is fighting
Matthew Hoh was asked to stay in the job. (Gerald Martineau – The Washington Post)
Wednesday, October 28, 2009; 1:00 PM
Matthew Hoh, a former Foreign Service officer and former Marine Corps captain who last month became the first U.S. official known to resign in protest over the Afghan war, was online Wednesday, Oct. 28, at 1 p.m. ET to discuss the reasons why he thought the war “wasn’t worth the fight.”
Simply put, al-Qaeda does not exist in Afghanistan and 60,000 troops with the hope of stabilizing the Afghan central government which may or may not succeed in 5-10 years time will not defeat al-Qaeda.
Washington, D.C.: Don’t you think it’s ridiculous that you are getting so much attention for quitting your job, yet, those who fight and die for us on a daily basis get little to no coverage in the media?
Matthew Hoh: I agree with your last part. I do believe coverage of those are the ground is severely lack both in quantity and quality.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2009/10/27/DI2009102703143.html
Monkeyhawk
Posted October 29, 2009 at 8:51 pm | Permalink
“Regular” smugly leans back and declares –
“I have some knowledge on a little bit of everything.”
Uh-huh.
Tell us again the geological impossibility of mountaintop-removal coal mining.
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Ah, thanks for repeating that – it demonstrates how Libs dig things up from the past – bury it – dig it up again – over and over.
Thanks for demonstrating what a small-minded person you are MonkeyHawk, it’s classic.
Yeah JJ, I provided that post from the Captain a couple of days ago. He is the first publicly to leave. I imagine others have quietly left their posts. While serving, there is a loyalty that is hard to describe, but very powerful.
To make a statement at all, is an occassion.
There will be more.
The puking hasn’t even begun yet. But it will.
Obama is trying to tell the military HOW TO do their job.
The visits to the porcelain bowl have only just begun.
Wait until the public pukes at Afghanistan II….
The site is working fine now.
The great news is that the economy has expanded and only a fraction of the Recovery Act money has been disbursed. We can all hope the economy will come come roaring back in the new year.
Obama, Pelosi and Reid have teamed to declare the term ‘illegal aliens’ will no longer be tolerated or allowed.
Henceforth they will be referred to as ‘Undocumented Democrats’ and ACORN community organizers.
AmWay, Obama launched a trial ballon at going for McCrystal Light, that is 10,000 to 20,000 additional troops and not 40,000.
Isn’t that more of the Half-A approach?
It does sound like Obama is not going to pull-out, and he’s setting us up for a long-term blood bath for American troops – with no defined goal of victory.
Go full speed, or pull out now!
Half-A, Ain’t the Right Way!
Click on the “Agency Reported” tab – lower left. Then if you zoom out, you can see all of the Wichita projects, grants and loans.
Pretty slick.
Ballon?
Balloon.
David, my zip code falls short of what yours has received! Four loans for a total of $499,500.
That’s the measurement of a good Socialist Government – how much money they handed out in your zip code area!
Shouldn’t Socialists hand out money equally per person?
What is the handout criteria?
Does it help to have a bigger tin cup?
Absolutely JJ.
The more FREE MONEY da better.
Just go read the Seniors Get 250 dollar Thread.
Da MORE FREE MONEY, Da better!
The heck with what the impact is to society, our childrens’ future or grandchildren.
Just print and pass out MORE FREE MONEY!!!
Amazing link DavidB:
Let’s see: Wichita – 20,000,000 dollars awarded – 209 jobs created/saved (whatever saved means)
At a cost to taxpayers: $95,694 each per job.
Yeah – heh
Say JJ, My county got just a bazillion dollars of DAT FREE MONEY!!!
Dat must mean life is good. Obama is Great!!!
The Government is getting better. I say “getting” better because if we had MORE FREE MONEY, that would surely be a measure of success!!!!
“McCrystal Light”
Half assed. Yes absolutely.
But worse: It’s a political approach.
It’s NOT LISTENING to your expert professional military officers.
It’s making up your own POLITICAL RULES.
It’s the end of the military operation in Afghanistan and the beginning of the political OBAMA operation.
It’s time to resign.
It Vietnam.
Regular
Posted October 29, 2009 at 9:45 pm | Permalink
Amazing link DavidB:
Let’s see: Wichita – 20,000,000 dollars awarded – 209 jobs created/saved (whatever saved means)
At a cost to taxpayers: $95,694 each per job.
Yeah – heh
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Oh no. It took 1,000 State and Local Government administrative bureaucrats to count the Federal money and make sure it was delivered to the very people who deserved it the most.
Those bureaucrats only took a small share (half) of the $20 million.
More like $47,000 for each Wichita job.
Will Obama need to restart the military draft?
I wonder when the college kids will start marching in war protests?
Where are today’s hippies with their peace signs? OH right, they are in Obama’s war machine government today.
“Shouldn’t Socialists hand out money equally per person?”
What’s a person? It’s the state. It’s society.
Nothing for the individual. Are you stupid JJ?
Socialism!!!!
No offense. But some things are higher priority for society at large. Old people need to die. We keep frogs before dams. We keep wind mills over the environment and damage they cause.
It’s for society. The masses.
JimJohnson
Posted October 29, 2009 at 9:50 pm
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Oh no. It took 1,000 State and Local Government administrative bureaucrats to count the Federal money and make sure it was delivered to the very people who deserved it the most.
Those bureaucrats only took a small share (half) of the $20 million.
More like $47,000 for each Wichita job.
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Well, that’s a relief!
I have been oiling up the wheels on my wheelbarrow, getting prepared for the ‘Weimar Republic type of Wheelbarrow’ inflation that will come after the recession is over.
I figure I can get about 100 trillion dollars per wheel barrow, to buy some bread and sardines.
Oh right, the greater good.
It’s collective freedom.
Individuals don’t exist anymore.
Say JJ!!
You hired me to tell you what you need to get your house repaired. I need 44,000 dollars to do it right.
If you give me less than that, well, then I cannot do the repairs/remodeling/fix that you ASKED me to do.
So what’s your decision?
Am_Way–
You haven’t been drinking the CON kool-aide.
Nathan et al. have repeatedly argued that we could have won in Vietnam if only the evil Dems hadn’t cut off funding to South Vietnam.
To call Afghanistan “another Vietnam” is to ignore the revisionist history that CONs have CONstructed of their “stab in the back” narrative myth . . . “we could have won in Vietnam if only the counter-culture Jane Fonda types hadn’t stabbed us in the back.”
It was the same kind of revisionism that the Nazis used to blame Germany’s defeat in WWI on their political enemies.
Euros Regular, think Euros.
Well, well, well………….. so the Con/Republicans have discovered where all the liberals went.
My, my, congratulations.
Ya got a few of the nics wrong, but what the Hell.
I hope you folks feel good about all this – but who cares what you think?
The “I hate poor Americans” crew has stated their case.
So what?
So pretty too:
http://eu.foreignpolicyblogs.com/files/2009/03/euro.jpg
You suppose they will put Obama’s picture on the Euro?
To call Afghanistan “another Vietnam” is to ignore the revisionist history
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Odd, isn’t this what we heard from the halls of Congress from duh Dems about Iraq?
BTW, only some 750 American soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan over 8 years.
We lost that many in a month in Vietnam.
American_Way
Posted October 29, 2009 at 9:55 pm | Permalink
Say JJ!!
You hired me to tell you what you need to get your house repaired. I need 44,000 dollars to do it right.
If you give me less than that, well, then I cannot do the repairs/remodeling/fix that you ASKED me to do.
So what’s your decision?
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Just do it half-a.
Just do the outside, you know, so it looks like one of those old Hollywood western sets, with the house frames all finished on the front, with nothing behind it.
Regular–
Iraq was an immoral and illegal war fought for oil company profit based on a pack of lies.
It was much worse than Vietnam. At least Vietnam had the ideological justification of fighting communism.
“so the Con/Republicans have discovered where all the liberals went.”
And I want to personally thank-you for that WSClark.
In your drunken, drug induced paranoia, you posted about THUNDERCHILD.
From the email’s I’ve read from just a few others, that was a good find.
Keep up the good work!
BS Capn.
There was much French Oil in Vietnam before they handed it smartly off to us. And there is much oil there today.
Don’t try to solve all the worlds problems in your pea brain. You might just get ahead of yourself.
“From the email’s I’ve read from just a few others, that was a good find.”
Huh? English translation please.
CapnAmerica
Posted October 29, 2009 at 10:02 pm | Permalink
Regular–
Iraq was an immoral and illegal war fought for oil company profit based on a pack of lies.
It was much worse than Vietnam. At least Vietnam had the ideological justification of fighting communism.
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58,148 Americans died in Vietnam – How was Iraq worse?
“Just do it half-a.
Just do the outside, you know, so it looks like one of those old Hollywood western sets, with the house frames all finished on the front, with nothing behind it.”
Well yessir Mr. Prezident. Does that mean you don’t want us to worry about the foundations or anything important like that?
Since you are controlling, would you like to review our strategic blueprints and maybe put your HOLY KNOW IT ALL instructions on how to fix it?
[Exactly as Vietnam was run]
“Huh? English translation please.”
WSClark, as someone wiser than me once posted.
If your brains were converted to gasoline, there wouldn’t be enough gasoline to drive an ant’s go-cart halfway around the INSIDE of a cheerio.
English Translation: During your drunken stupor fight with Bluejay the other night you called him THUNDERCHILD.
You really that ignorant?
Iraq was worse because it was entirely unnecessary.
Vietnam was a mistake, not a pack of lies.
BJ calls himself Thunderchild on the other blog?
ROFLMAO!!!!
“Vietnam was a mistake, not a pack of lies.”
CapnAmerica: Look up Gulf of Tonkin Incident.
My god! And you are a professor!!!!!!!
“During your drunken stupor fight with Bluejay the other night you called him THUNDERCHILD.”
“From the email’s I’ve read from just a few others, that was a good find.”
And what?
What e-mails? From the “We hate poor Americans” network?
Thanks for the laugh to end the day AmWay!
In 2005, an internal National Security Agency historical study was declassified; it concluded[3] that Maddox had engaged the North Vietnamese on August 2, but that there may not have been any North Vietnamese vessels present during the engagement of August 4. The report stated.
(The pretext for LBJ expanding the war – was a lie)
Vietnam was fine as a military operation. US forces never lost a major battle.
The simple problem was that the civilian gov’t (Diem et al.) was so venal and corrupt that they had no support. When the CIA helped rub him out, the situation became totally anarchic. Who was going to be America’s puppet?
The USA won the war in Vietnam. They lost the peace.
Clark, go smoke another joint, you ignorant basterd.
Yep AmWay, the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution gave LBJ the authorization to go to war over a minor naval incident.
“The USA won the war in Vietnam. They lost the peace.”
Don’t dance around your earlier post on Vietnam not being a lie, with a cliche.
I’ve posted on this many times.
We lost because America lost faith.
Afghanistan is already a lost cause with the majority of the American public….
Learn the lesson – or repeat it.
Obama’s call.
“‘the civilian gov’t (Diem et al.) was so venal and corrupt that they had no support. When the CIA helped”
Exactly like Afghanistan in 2009.
Yup, the Gulf of Tonkin incident was probably either an overt lie or a confused muddle spun to escalate the conflict.
Either way, troops were already in Vietnam and no one Lib or Con was going to take the blame of the John Birch–Goldwater–CON commie-baiting of having “lost Indo-China.”
“Yep AmWay, the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution ”
Regular, do you believe this guy is a professor? Our tax dollars are paying him to teach our children?
No wonder education is in the sorry state it’s in.
“Clark, go smoke another joint, you ignorant basterd.”
My parents were married for three weeks before I was conceived, but thanks for asking, Am A S S H O L E.
Quick reminder needed:
CapnAmerica
Posted October 29, 2009 at 10:09 pm | Permalink
“Vietnam was a mistake, not a pack of lies.”
“My parents were married for three weeks ”
Guess this means the light bulb finally lit up on WSCLark’s forehead!!
I win again.
•American_Way
Posted October 29, 2009 at 10:21 pm | Permalink
“Yep AmWay, the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution ”
Regular, do you believe this guy is a professor? Our tax dollars are paying him to teach our children?
No wonder education is in the sorry state it’s in.
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Well, he’s not a professor, but an instructor. A professor has status with tenure attached at a university. An instructor, not so much.
““I wanted to see his type.”–BlueJay
I have no such need myself”
Well of course you don’t bawks. You hear every single day about how your world is falling down around you.
Vietnam was NOT lost because America “lost faith.”
Lost faith in what? God?
Vietnam was lost because it was never ours to begin with. It was a former French colony with no democratic tradition . . . and American goals had no real interest in establish it.
It was interested in showing the Russians and the Chinese that it was prepared to fight to the death to stop the global spread of communism.
In that sense, it succeeded.
“Guess this means the light bulb finally lit up on WSCLark’s forehead!!”
Huh? What the Hell does that mean?
Hitting the Scotch a bit heavy tonight, Am A S S H O L E?
The only thing I’ll afford you bawks is you are one of the few posters here who is not an alter nic for one James “Regular” McCluer.
Of course, you didn’t do yourself any favors by failing to meet me. I don’t think you are one of the blog mental case’s puppets. Other opinions may differ.
I can’t believe that my tax dollars ever paid a candy ass like Am Way to defend our country.
BTW, the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution was the Act of Congress that was based on the Gulf of Tonkin Incident that you cited.
Thanks for the lessons on Vietnam Capn.
Just how old were you during those years?
I may have a different recollection of events than you, being as I was on active duty during those times. :)
“I may have a different recollection of events than you, being as I was on active duty during those times. :)
Is that right James?
I thought you sustained your debilitating injuries “in a burning cockpit” during the Iraq war.
I could go get the posts to prove it. But why bother?
New rule: Any con poster who I have not personally met is one of “Regular”’s alter nics.
Let’s see, the Vietnam war ended 30 April 1975, that would put you about what age Capn?
BlueJay as usual, has absolutley nothing meaningful to add to the discussion.
Some things will never change.
Damn it has to frost you don’t it James?
You do …whatever it is you do here…and NONE of the cons has ever met you. And if you knew what they said about you?
Cya BlueJay, one day you’ll grow up and understand what it is to be a man.
But, I have my doubts.
See ya’, Am A S S H O L E, sucks to be you these days!
Nite, nite. loser!
Interesting, Regular.
Earlier you said that you weren’t in Vietnam because you were “too young.”
So . . . you were “on active duty” but not in Vietnam during Vietnam.
Big deal. It is the historians who see the big picture, not the guys in the rear with the gear . . . Try Stanley Karnow’s “Vietnam” as a starter.
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WSClark
Posted October 29, 2009 at 10:28 pm | Permalink
Hitting the Scotch a bit heavy tonight, Am A S S H O L E?
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He’s becoming less coherent with each passing day. He must be on a he11acious bender.
As far a BlueJay “not being a man,” he’s the biggest man I think I probably ever met.
The rest of us essentially sell out to go along to get along. Nobody has the guts to live like Thoreau did, simply and on his own terms.
(Actually, even Thoreau only lived like that for two years . . . and spent a lot of time eating dinner at Emerson’s house.)
BlueJay is the only rugged individualist out of all of us.
It IS rather difficult to square “Regular”’s claim to have been badly injured in the Iraq war with this new claim of his service in Vietnam.
Vietnam ended around 1974. The FIRST Iraq war was in the early 90’s. That’s the 20 year hitch ‘Regular” claims and THEN some. WITH time for him to serve in Germany AND change the tire of the Governor.
No wonder the right sees you as a useful idiot James.
Well, Jay, notice that Regular is careful not to say that he actually served in Vietnam. He just makes the very obvious implication.
Then when one draws the obvious inference that anyone would, he smugly points out the “error.”
It’s the game of equivocation that he and Am_Way play.
It’s a game for little girls . . .
CapnAmerica
Posted October 29, 2009 at 10:46 pm | Permalink
Interesting, Regular.
Earlier you said that you weren’t in Vietnam because you were “too young.”
So . . . you were “on active duty” but not in Vietnam during Vietnam.
Big deal. It is the historians who see the big picture, not the guys in the rear with the gear . . . Try Stanley Karnow’s “Vietnam” as a starter.
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I never stated any such thing Capn.
I was never in Vietnam, the country, but was on active duty. I was 26 when the Vietnam war ended, you can do the math.
So, Reg, that makes you born in 1948???
as
Posted October 29, 2009 at 11:01 pm | Permalink
So, Reg, that makes you born in 1948???
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Red hot close, but no cigar.
I’m not gonna mention any names but SOMEBODY is begging for an upbraiding from donndublin.
How can one be on active duty but too young for Vietnam?
How can someone 26 when the Vietnam war ended still be on active duty for the first Iraq war?
It’s gonna get tougher from here James. For you and the nics we think you are hiding in.
Ya gotta love ol’ “Regular’s” resume –
Band Director.
Railroad Magnate.
Inventor of the Computer.
War Hero.
Geological Expert (specialty: the Impossibility of Mountaintop-Removal Coal Mining).
Pulled a Thorn from the Paw of a Former Lieutenant-Governor.
War Hero again.
Expert Toad-Tenciler.
Is there anything “Regular” does not know?
“Is there anything “Regular” does not know?”
Municipal code? He parks his car on his lawn. This is illegal.
How can someone 26 when the Vietnam war ended still be on active duty for the first Iraq war?
Math is your friend.
JimJohnson
Posted October 29, 2009 at 8:28 pm | Permalink
DavidB
Posted October 29, 2009 at 7:44 pm | Permalink
DNC Uses Flag Desecration Video to Raise Funds- FOX
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Like BJ burning the flag and bragging about it
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Or like George W. Bush standing on top of an American Flag while using the backdrop of World Trade Center to push for his war-for-profit in Iraq – yet again!
A ‘real’ American knows to never let an American Flag touch the floor and never dare to step on top of it.
But, what else do I expect from CONS??
Read more: http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/10/open-thread-1029-2/#comments#ixzz0VOCuvv0x
Read more: http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/10/open-thread-1029-2/#comments#ixzz0VOCv1a0x
Vietnam ends 1974
Reg. says he is 26 when Nam ends…
Reg. gotta be born in 1948… or is math not Reg’s chosen field?? LOL
30 April 1975 – The capture of Saigon by North Vietnamese army in April 1975 marked the end of Vietnam War.
I bet Chas, that you remember watching the events on TV following this decision under Ford.
Schlesinger announced early in the morning of 29 April 1975 the evacuation from Saigon by helicopter of the last U.S. diplomatic, military, and civilian personnel. Note: Schleesinger was the Secretary of Defense.
OK… you damned nit picky idiot… MANY people feel the War was over before Nixon resigned in Aug. 1974… But have it YOUR way… I thought I remembered you once saying you graduated high school AFTER I did… but you probably had a spin on that one too…
Thus, Reg. born in 1949… So, IF Reg. joined Air Force in 1967 at age 18… then by Iraq War I, Reg. would have had 34 years of service to the Air Force…
JM
Posted November 2, 2006 at 8:04 pm | Permalink
You’re right, my feet didn’t touch the soil of Vietnam. I was assigned to Udorn AFB in Thailand where our group of F4 phantoms were used for reconnaisance in Vietnam.
Correction — 24 years of service by Iraq War I… sorry bout the typo…
Allergies bad down here… cant see so good…
Dont most enlisted people serve 20 years and out??
but you were never in ‘Nam though, RepubliKhan.
How’d you manage to evade that one?
Posted by: CapnAmerica | March 11, 2007 at 09:35 PM
Too young, CapnAmerica?
Posted by: Republikhan | March 11, 2007 at 09:37 PM
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/03/open_thread_11-12/
Gee, and all this time I remembered “Regular” claiming he stormed the beach at Normandy, single-handedly whupped the Marne, remembered the Maine, and led
“Regular’s”Pickett’s charge.I guess I was misinformed.
Allergies bad down here… cant see so good…
Cedar Fever was nasty in the hill country. I remember a buddy when I was stationed in San Antonio, carrying a box of kleenix, eye drops and nose around with him. :D
Posted October 30, 2009 at 12:05 am | Permalink
Dont most enlisted people serve 20 years and out??
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Not that I’m aware of, 30 years is usually the maximum.
But, I understand that the Navy has special waivers for beyond thirty years of service.
20 years is the minimum one has to serve for retirement, but not the maximum.
Never said I active duty Air Force in 1967 either.
Maybe I was doing something else? :)
Posted October 30, 2009 at 12:07 am | Permalink
Gee, and all this time I remembered “Regular” claiming he stormed the beach at Normandy, single-handedly whupped the Marne, remembered the Maine, and led “Regular’s” Pickett’s charge.
I guess I was misinformed.
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No, I was at Vicksburg under Grant.
(chortles)
That’s pretty good Capn, quoting your own posts as factual.
heh
Chas–
It’s hard to winnow the lies from the truth with Regular.
But what he’s said most consistently is that he was in the service during Vietnam but never in Vietnam. The South fell in April of 1975 when he claims he was 26. That puts his birth date in 1949.
He should have graduated college in 1970 . . . which technically could have made him “too young” for Vietnam since troop levels were getting drastically cut by then.
Desert Storm started in January of ‘91 which would have made still serving Regular about 42, with just over 20 years in.
So . . . it does add up right.
Well, I see that the synopsis on me is almost done.
Now, time for sleep…
:)
Republikhan
Posted March 12, 2007 at 5:21 pm | Permalink
Hank,
I have a cousin who served on the Enterprise (I think, not sure of the ship) and was a Nukie (his own terms.) This would be in the early 1970s (72 maybe dont’ remember, I was busy playing baseball and being a stupid school kid.)
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Ummmm CapN…. This one sort of muddies the waters a little bit…. hmmmm???
Yes Chas, intramural baseball was fun. :)
Heh, good snag, Chas!
As I said, it’s hard to figure where the lies end and the truth starts with old “virtual reality” Regular.
Some days, he’s a old crippled up Vet with wrist canes who doesn’t deserve the indignity of the ridicule he gets here. Other days, he’s gonna kick all of our asses “and stomp us a new mudhole.”
I guess a rich fantasy life is all he’s got left . . .
Reg –
By 1970, you would have been 21… You thought MAYbe your cousin reference MIGHT have been 1972… when you would have been 23 yrs old, playing baseball and being a stupid school kid…… Riiiiight…..
MHawk–
You should hear what old “virtual reality” says about his ancestors. One old-timer was hired as a school teacher because of his beautiful penmanship and because he was the best shot in the county.
I think he wrastled a bear when he was only three and straightened out a twisty road with Babe the Blue Ox too . . .
Chas–
Regular could have been a “stupid school kid” and playing baseball while he was working on his master’s degree.
Oh, wait, Regular would have gotten his advanced degree when he was only 16 or 17 . . . my bad.
And you know what else is odd?
I remember one of Regular’s nics saying that he owned a house in college and was really glad that he signed the mortgage before CARTER was in office and the interest rates went up.
Carter didn’t take office until 1975. So Regular must have been in college at least until age 26.
Maybe he got “held back” as we euphemistically used to say.
Odd, isn’t it.
Chas
Posted October 30, 2009 at 12:38 am | Permalink
Reg –
By 1970, you would have been 21… You thought MAYbe your cousin reference MIGHT have been 1972… when you would have been 23 yrs old, playing baseball and being a stupid school kid…… Riiiiight…..
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Oh, oh – not very observant Chas…
…intramural baseball. :)
Yes Chas, my cousin was on a six year hitch in the Navy because of all of his schooling. He got three rating promotions just by going to different Navy schools. He got his last rating from the Enterprise and was then sent to school to finish becoming a ‘nukie.’ I don’t remember when he got out, but remember he was offered Chief Petty Officer, he refused the offer and separated. I would have to ask him about the specific details as Navy vessels don’t tend to stay in one spot – i.e. they re-deploy – go to port for repairs and whatever.
Oh, the tangled webs we weave…
:)
Is this the best the left has to offer?
Trying to figure out the private life of one who dares to disagree with them, so they can use it to attack him rather than any ideas he may post? Even as they retreat to the private BTSNBN (now named, of course, and boring as hell) so they won’t have to ‘tolerate’ other points of view? That’s frankly not a surprise; suppression of dissent is always a liberal’s first incliniation.
And you want to run the country? Yeesh.