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Something to keep in mind
Share Post PrintOctober 26, 2009 Posted by Paul at 10:47 PM
The government has failed dramatically in its effort to make the swine flu vaccine widely available. We’re quickly approaching the time by which this was supposed to have been accomplished, but the government is nowhere close to having accomplished it.
Here in Maryland, for example, state officials originally anticipated that one million doses would be available by the end of this month. Now it appears that only half that total will be available.
When a similar faiure occurred in 2004, the Democrats blamed President Bush. But I don’t blame President Obama. I blame the fact that the federal government isn’t very good at delivering most services in a timely manner. The stated reasons vary from case to case, but the result is generally the same.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/10/024804.php
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Good morning Heckler,
I don’t blame the Obama administration either. No one could know just how innept and incompetant the old Bush administration CDC and HEW was.
The Obama administration really didn’t know how screwed up things were until they got in office. After eight years of Bush it’s amazing that we’re even able to make any vaccine at all.
There is an alternative technique to produce influenza vaccine faster and in greater quantities. You don’t have to sit around for days waiting for the chicken eggs to maybe produce it. Or not.
But the alternative is not as profitable for pharmaceutical corporations.
Guess which technique has come up short?
Good morning Hank. And a crispy one it is.
The facts are:
These vaccines are produced by private companies working under contract.
They had insufficient supplies of a testing chemical, as well as breakdowns of the packaging equipment.
The companies gave out overly optimistic delivery forecasts.
These companies need closer government oversight and inspections next season.
Since conservatives are not going to take the vaccinations, this should relieve some of the pressure.
Monkey”boy”
….and the .gov goes along with big pharma because one of Obo’s top confidants is in bed with big pharma?
“The stated reasons vary from case to case, but the result is generally the same.”
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Heckler
Posted October 27, 2009 at 7:21 am | Permalink
….and the .gov goes along with big pharma because one of Obo’s top confidants is in bed with big pharma?
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Who should the ‘.gov’ contracted with to supply the vaccine, big fast food? Big timber?
On this date, Oct 27th
1764 – A “very remarkable storm of snow with high winds” produced 22 inches at Rutland in central Massachusetts. (David Ludlum)
1810 US annexes West Florida from Spain
1871 Boss Tweed (William Macy Tweed), Democratic leader of Tammany Hall, arrested after NY Times exposed his corruption
1947 “You Bet Your Life”, with Groucho Marx, premieres on ABC radio
1954 Benjamin O Davis Jr becomes 1st black general in USAF
1964 – Sammie Tong dies (April 21, 1901 – October 27, 1964), a film and TV actor who starred in Bachelor Father, My Friend Flicka and Judge Bean TV series.
1978 Egyptian President Anwar Sadat and Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin were named winners of the Nobel Peace Prize.
1988 Larry Flynt paid hitman $1M to kill Hefner, Guccione & Sinatra
1997 The Dow Jones industrial average tumbled 554.26 points, forcing the stock market to shut down for the first time since the 1981 assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan.
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Pity is for the living, envy is for the dead.
- Following the Equator, Pudd’nhead Wilson’s New Calendar, Mark Twain
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Odd Facts
Weird law: Ohio- It is illegal to sell beer while wearing a Santa Claus suit, even if you are a dog.
Weird Law: Connecticut- It is illegal to walk across the street on your hands
The opposite sides of a dice cube always add up to seven.
Ted Turner owns 5 percent of New Mexico.
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Humorous Bits
Half of being smart is knowing what you are dumb at.
Wethern’s Law: Assumption is the mother of all screw-ups.
The first rule of intelligent tinkering is to save all of the parts.
It appears last night’s open thread Bible study got rather heated….again.
H1N1, Obama’s pandemic for profit.
WIPE.
ANTI
Posted October 27, 2009 at 8:24 am | Permalink
It appears last night’s open thread Bible study got rather heated….again.
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Yep, same posters, pretty much the same BS.
Why do some people insist on coming here and turning the open thread into their personal cess pool?
Almost everybody on last night’s open thread should be banned.
XXX writes: Almost everybody on last night’s open thread should be banned.
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My comments were civil – Chas exploded in his usual, high blood pressure frenzy. BlueJay was paranoid and accusatory as usual – accusing me of being other posters with multiple nics.
My comments were mostly civil. I just wish Chas would learn not to keep feeding JimJohnson and American_Way and ignore those idiots. They’d get bored real quick.
Light ‘em Up, Fox News
Ted Nugent
Obama loves the media as long as it loves him, and not a New York minute longer. And against those voices in the media who take him on he employs Alinsky’s rules: isolate marginalize, and render the adversary ineffective for starters.
In typical liberal fashion, the facts, however interesting, are irrelevant to denial driven liberal airheads. Fact checking is anathema to the O Administration. Attempting to silence Fox News will only cause this media powerhouse to dig deeper into the Chicago-style, silence at all cost, O Administration.
Even though Fedzilla has bankrupted — bankrupted — Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, the O Administration wants to place your health care under the care of Fedzilla. Only a fool would endorse the very system that has ruined every thing it has placed its greedy, power-hungry, unaccountable bureaucratic fingers on.
Full storty at:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=34131
Looks like chas went postal. He even accused someone of hacking the blog and erasing his posts.
If he’s a preacher, I sure feel sorry for his parishioners. He sounds more like a drunken sailor.
Watch FOX News rating soar as Obama attacts them.
“Comrades! … You need to hang (hang without fail, so that the public sees) at least 100 notorious kulaks, the rich, and the bloodsuckers. … This needs to be accomplished in such a way, that people for hundreds of miles around will see, tremble, know and scream out: let’s choke and strangle those blood-sucking kulaks. …
Yours, Lenin.”
Regular
Posted October 27, 2009 at 8:35 am | Permalink
XXX writes: Almost everybody on last night’s open thread should be banned.
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My comments were civil – Chas exploded in his usual, high blood pressure frenzy. BlueJay was paranoid and accusatory as usual – accusing me of being other posters with multiple nics.
Read more: http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/10/open-thread-1027-2/#comments#ixzz0V91tDLNy
Read more: http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/10/open-thread-1027-2/#comments#ixzz0V91tFMNy
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Funny thing, Reg.
Whenever things get nasty, it always seems like you’re right in the middle of it.
I wonder why…..
Ted is a wild man (maybe insane), but I’m glad he is on my side.
Seriously, would you want to fuq with the Nuge?
Kulaks defined: A class of Russian landholder formed from peasants who were able to obtain land because of the 1906 agrarian reforms, the Kulaks were opposed to Stalin’s policy of collectivisation and liquidated en masse in the late 1920s/early 1930s. Up to ten million may have died.
XXX pontificates: Funny thing, Reg.
Whenever things get nasty, it always seems like you’re right in the middle of it. I wonder why…..
I was also born in the middle of the twentieth century.
Doesn’t mean I instigated any of the wars that followed.
Regular
Posted October 27, 2009 at 9:03 am | Permalink
XXX pontificates: Funny thing, Reg.
Whenever things get nasty, it always seems like you’re right in the middle of it. I wonder why…..
I was also born in the middle of the twentieth century.
Doesn’t mean I instigated any of the wars that followed.
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What’s that got to do with anything? 99% of the accusations made against you are true. You’re a nic-switcher. You’re a trouble-maker. I could go on and on, but discussion with you is a waste of bandwidth.
Smart Grid project to begin:
“President Barack Obama on Tuesday will announce $3.4 billion in government grants to help build a “smart” electric grid that will save consumers money on their utility bills, reduce blackouts and carry power supplies generated by solar and wind energy, the White House said.
The winning companies have secured an additional $4.7 billion in private money to match their government grants, creating $8.1 billion in total investment in the smart grid.
The White House will act fast to get the money into the economy, with the funds expected to be in the accounts of the winning companies within 60 days. The projects themselves will last 12 to 36 months.”
You’re a nic-switcher.
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In the defense of Regular, Chas and Monkeyhawk are also “nic switchers”.
That’s all I have to say about that.
ANTI — For as long as I have been on this Blog, I have used ONE Nic… “Chas” — I have been accused by you, and others, of using more than one… All of those accusations are LIES..
Chas
Posted October 26, 2009 at 7:09 pm | Permalink
Freebird1971
Posted October 26, 2009 at 6:18 pm | Permalink
Rev. Chas,
if you want to refer to him as you president fine,to me he is the president.
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Well, if you’re THAT stubborn, than you cant even join with your fellow Americans, and know damned well that Obama is YOUR President… duly elected… sworn in… and in charge of his duties….
Then so be it… But, it still makes you ANTI-American… That’s not a political comment… just a FACT…
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First in fairness to Chas he did suggest I have a cold one but followed in paraentheses make it a diet Coke Zero.
Now then it seems according to Chas the disagreement with the president and refusing to buy in to a cult of personality makes you UnAmerican. Silly me I thought disagreement was my right as an American,guess I was wrong.
XXX writes: What’s that got to do with anything? 99% of the accusations made against you are true. You’re a nic-switcher. You’re a trouble-maker. I could go on and on, but discussion with you is a waste of bandwidth.
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Which nic I have switched to on this new version of the blog?
Don’t play innocent round boy, you take your daily shots at me, just as you are doing now.
Talk about instigating trouble, you do it, call it justified, then run away.
People accuse me of nic switching should check with Brownlee. They should be embarassed when they find out that I don’t.
It’s a Lib thing to accuse without proof.
“Looks like chas went postal. He even accused someone of hacking the blog and erasing his posts.
If he’s a preacher, I sure feel sorry for his parishioners. He sounds more like a drunken sailor.”-donndublin
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LOL!!! I read that this am. Wowsers.
Glad I’m not the only crazy person. =]
“Don’t play innocent round boy”
Don’t lecture me, gimpy.
•XXX
Posted October 27, 2009 at 9:27 am | Permalink
“Don’t play innocent round boy”
Don’t lecture me, gimpy.
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Ah joining hands with the BlueJay mantra I see and make comments on my disability.
Regular
Posted October 27, 2009 at 9:30 am | Permalink
Ah joining hands with the BlueJay mantra I see and make comments on my disability.
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I don’t know why you keep knocking BlueJay. You’re both opposite sides of the same coin.
Ol’ “Regular” plays the “handi-capable” card.
CONs spend so much WE Blog bandwidth whining how their wittwl feewings gots hurted.
Or they call us “libruhls” playground names.
Or run to teacher to tattle on a post that somehow, uhm, hurted their wittwl feewings.
“Regular,” with your resume and proclaimed expertise and a motorized wheelchair you could reenter the productive workforce.
Why don’t you do that?
America needs you intelligence and savvy. Not just here on some backwater blog, but up front in the big time. On Wall Street! In Washington! Detroit! Silicon Valley!
But you choose to whine about your “disability.”
•XXX
Posted October 27, 2009 at 9:47 am | Permalink
Regular
Posted October 27, 2009 at 9:30 am | Permalink
Ah joining hands with the BlueJay mantra I see and make comments on my disability.
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I don’t know why you keep knocking BlueJay. You’re both opposite sides of the same coin.
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Maybe that he keeps posting personal information about me? Like where I live, insulting me because where I live and who I live with?
BlueJay doesn’t just posting opposite opinions, he posts personal attacks and gets very personal with it.
You know, things that would get his head ripped off – face to face. That’s why he doesn’t want to meet with me – he’s too scared.
MonkeyHock -
But you choose to whine about your “disability.”
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Only when make people make a comment about my disability in a disparaging manner like XXX and you did.
Of course, both of you being Libs, I wouldn’t expect you to know the difference.
Yeah right, “Regular” –
We’re all afraid of meeting you face-to-face.
Keep telling yourself that.
The primary reason I have no fear of being frog-walked into an empty field (even in comfy shoes) and having you put a bullet in my skull is you’d be afraid to show up.
Regular
Posted October 27, 2009 at 10:00 am | Permalink
•XXX
Posted October 27, 2009 at 9:47 am | Permalink
Regular
Posted October 27, 2009 at 9:30 am | Permalink
Ah joining hands with the BlueJay mantra I see and make comments on my disability.
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I don’t know why you keep knocking BlueJay. You’re both opposite sides of the same coin.
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Maybe that he keeps posting personal information about me? Like where I live, insulting me because where I live and who I live with?
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Seems like it wasn’t too long ago you were going to publish the place of employment of another blogger.
You are good at provoking and insulting people MonkeyHock.
So far, I haven’t found anything else you are good at.
ANTI posted October 27, 2009 at 9:13 am
That’s all I have to say about that.
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Why doesn’t ANTI want to defend all of Regular’s past nics?
Including Regular’s stealing of “J M Walker’s” nic?
In the defense of Regular, JimJohnson and American_Way are also d!cks.
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Freebird1971
Posted October 27, 2009 at 10:09 am | Permalink
Seems like it wasn’t too long ago you were going to publish the place of employment of another blogger.
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He didn’t just threaten to, he did. The posts were removed later.
ANTI,
Would you defend a poster who added a false, fictional paragraph to a copy/paste post?
Obaama has nothing to fear when it comes to giving his darlings a vaccine. There is an adjuvant-free version that important people can get. Der Spiegel wrote on it because Germany’s important people are getting it in lieu of the one offered to all of its little people.
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiegel.de%2Fwissenschaft%2Fmedizin%2F0%2C1518%2C655764%2C00.html&lp=de_en&btnTrUrl=Translate
Heck the folks at The Paul Erhlich Institute won’t even take the “little people” version.
http://www.qatarliving.com/taxonomy/term/33454
The institute is pretty prestigious and stuff…so I can understand why they wouldn’t want a killer, “magic bullet” vaccine.
http://www.pei.de/EN/home/node-en.html
In fairness to Chas here is his post
THAT is what you call convoluted??? Like I told you before on this Blog… You’re ANTI American… and ANTI-Constitution…
You think my telling you that Obama is YOUR President is convoluted??? THAT’S just too damned funny…. Cant make up this kind of lunacy…. Glenn Beck doesnt even have a corner on the CRAZY market compared to YOUR crazy crap!!!
Go grab ya a COLD one (Coke Zero of course)
Now Chas why is disagreeing with you make me Anit American and Anti Constitution? If you would have read the adult s discussion on the thread you would see that ramming health care down our collective throats is in the strict sense of the word unconstitutional.
Those silly Deutsches…tsk tsk tsk. Zey need to learn zometing from zee rest of zee vurld.
http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/world-news/2009/08/07/swine-flu-health-expert-warning/does-virus-vaccine-increase-risk-of-cancer.html
should be Anti American,one other thing Chas,is I don’t buy into a cult of personality.
The “right” did not mind a bit when George Bush was dismantling the Constitution and Bill of Rights because of “national security”. The mantra “why worry if you have nothing to hide?” was yelled from the mountain tops. Now the “right” is dead against it when Obama is only carrying on the legacy.
Conversely, the “left” hated the wars when Bush was warring them. Now that their master is in charge, they will defend the wars to the death…of someone else.
Whatever. Insanity is the law of the land these days.
Regular has always made threats. He’s going “get” people, etc. As a recipient of those threats, I am here to tell you, it is all nonsense and B.S.
Oops, time to go back to being banned…
At least the Deutschelanders take care of their soldiers (allegedly).
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://de.news.yahoo.com/2/20091012/foto/ppl-photo-1-soldaten-bekomm-8bc7ec8e5d3c.html&ei=gyTnSvfQIpXsMcabmKoI&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CA8Q7gEwAQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3DSoldaten%2Bbekommen%2Bangeblich%2Bbesondere%2BSchweinegrippe-Impfung%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7GPEA_en
WHY DO DEMOCRATS HATE OLD PEOPLE???
Pleefer,
Seems that both sides tend to ignore the Constitution when it gets in the way of what they want.
Treating seniors as ‘clunkers’By BETSY MCCAUGHEY
Last Updated: 2:45 AM, October 27, 2009
The Senate Finance Committee health bill released last week controls doctors by cutting their pay if they give older patients more care than the government deems appropriate. Section 3003(b) (p. 683) punishes doctors who land in the 90th percentile or above on what they provide for seniors on Medicare by withholding 5 percent of their compensation.
This withhold provision forces doctors to choose between treating their patients and avoiding government penalties. HMOs used the same cost-cutting device in the early ’90s until it was
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deemed dangerous to patients and outlawed.
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Now, lawmakers want to use it against the most vulnerable patients, the elderly. This bill and four others under negotiation also would slash about $500 billion from future Medicare funding.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/treating_seniors_as_clunkers_AoV9xo6kjCZHHI4sNh6ZjM
Freebird,
It was of course, GWBush that said that the Constitution was “just a gawddam piece of paper” after all.
And by God, he meant it.
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cosmos_originally
Posted October 27, 2009 at 11:05 am | Permalink
ANTI posted October 27, 2009 at 9:13 am
That’s all I have to say about that.
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Why doesn’t ANTI want to defend all of Regular’s past nics?
Including Regular’s stealing of “J M Walker’s” nic?
Read more: http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/10/open-thread-1027-2/#comment-686213#ixzz0V9o8704u
Read more: http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/10/open-thread-1027-2/#comment-686213#ixzz0V9o8794u
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Ah, yes – cosmos drums up the distant past. :)
One – It was a joke, which I freely admitted.
Two – I used my own account, so wasn’t stealing anything, just changed the name on MY ACCOUNT.
Three – I apologized about a zillion times and quite frankly I’m tired of apologizing and dweebs like cosmos not accepting it.
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BTW, I didn’t turn the Capn into his work, I just wanted the Capn to sweat a little, just as he has done to me in the past. Hope that ulcer gets better Capn.
(chortles)
Pleefer,
Agreed,but as I said both sides are guilty of ignoring the constitution when it doesn’t fit their needs.
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cosmos_originally
Posted October 27, 2009 at 11:12 am | Permalink
ANTI,
Would you defend a poster who added a false, fictional paragraph to a copy/paste post?
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There goes cosmos again with that false/fictional thing.
I suppose in cosMAO world fiction is false because it is made up.
You just can’t make this stuff up.
BTW, I didn’t turn the Capn into his work, I just wanted the Capn to sweat a little, just as he has done to me in the past. Hope that ulcer gets better Capn.
(chortles)
So I guess it’s ok for you to do it but woe to those that attempt to do it to you
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Daniel
Posted October 27, 2009 at 11:07 am | Permalink
In the defense of Regular, JimJohnson and American_Way are also d!cks.
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Thanks!
I try not to be a vagina like some posters on this blog. :)
Indeed Freebird, you’ll get no argument from me. Political expediency with the look of representation and empathy.
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Freebird1971
Posted October 27, 2009 at 12:19 pm | Permalink
BTW, I didn’t turn the Capn into his work, I just wanted the Capn to sweat a little, just as he has done to me in the past. Hope that ulcer gets better Capn.
(chortles)
So I guess it’s ok for you to do it but woe to those that attempt to do it to you
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Look jackwad, I don’t know what you have against me, but you don’t know squat about me and make gross assumptions.
I’ve defended you from posters like MonkeyHawk and Chas who made remarks about you freely admitting going to AA meetings. What do I get in return? A daily slap in the face from you.
You don’t know the history of this blog and you don’t know how many times I apologized to posters to no avail.
Just like your good buddy WSClark who told me just the day, “I hope you die in your sleep.” The Clark puts a litany of curse words following that.
Comments from you on that? Zero, nada, zip.
CapnAmerica posted my address and my email on the Web and never apologized for it or got in trouble, because of limpdick Brownlee.
The Capn had it coming, no justice – I’ll bring my own.
So pardon me Freebird – why you have me confused – that is, you have me confused with someone who gives a schitt what you think about me.
Survey cites huge amounts of wasteful spending on health care:
NEW YORK – America’s annual healthcare bill could be reduced by $600 billion to $850 billion if the nation learns how to reduce wasteful spending, according to a new report by Thomson Reuters.
A white paper released Monday by the New York-based electronic information services company identifies the most significant drivers of wasteful spending as administrative inefficiency, unnecessary treatment, medical errors and fraud.
“The bad news is that an estimated $700 billion is wasted annually. That’s one-third of the nation’s healthcare bill,” said Robert Kelley, vice president of healthcare analytics at Thomson Reuters and author of the white paper, in a press release. “The good news is that by attacking waste, healthcare costs can be reduced without adversely affecting the quality of care or access to care.”
According to the study, the biggest causes of waste in healthcare are:
* Unnecessary care (40 percent of healthcare waste, or $250 billion to $325 billion), defined as over-use of antibiotics and diagnostic lab tests to protect against malpractice exposure
* Fraud (19 percent of healthcare waste, or $125 billion to $175 billion), which covers everything from fraudulent Medicare claims to kickbacks for referrals of unnecessary services.
* Administrative inefficiency (17 percent of healthcare waste, or $100 billion to $150 billion), focused on excess paperwork.
* Healthcare provider errors (12 percent of healthcare waste, or $75 billion to $100 billion), defined as medical mistakes.
* Preventable conditions (6 percent of healthcare waste, or $25 billion to $50 billion), focused on hospitalizations to treat uncontrolled chronic conditions such as diabetes, which is less costly to treat when the chronic condition is properly managed through timely access to outpatient care.
* Lack of care coordination (6 percent of healthcare waste, or $25 billion to $50 billion), focused on inefficient communication between healthcare providers, leading to limited access to needed medical records and a resulting duplication of tests or inappropriate treatments.
KABUL — Eight American troops were killed in multiple bomb attacks Tuesday in southern Afghanistan, making October the deadliest month of the war for U.S. forces since it began in 2001.
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Military servicemen and women die while O’BAMA waits till the ‘election’ in November to make a decision about Afghanistan.
O’BAMA
Worst
President
Ever
RE: Section 3003(b) (p. 683)
So if a doctor is using more resources than 9 out of ten other doctors… doesn’t that deserve another look and perhaps some action?
DavidB says “So if a doctor is using more resources than 9 out of ten other doctors… doesn’t that deserve another look and perhaps some action?”
Maybe you missed this part-
“HMOs used the same cost-cutting device in the early ’90s until it was deemed dangerous to patients and outlawed.”
‘Climate map shows human impacts‘
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8324428.stm
“A map designed to show the predicted effects of a 4C rise in global average temperature has been unveiled by the UK government.”
‘Freezer plan’ bid to save coral‘
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8324954.stm
“The prospects of saving the world’s coral reefs now appear so bleak that plans are being made to freeze samples to preserve them for the future. “
Strange, if true…
I assume there is more to this than Betsy McCaughey presents in the Post article. She coined the term “euthanasia for the elderly” regarding a Federal Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research, so she has a history of hysteria…
Freebird1971 posted October 27, 2009 at 12:19 pm
So I guess it’s ok for you to do it but woe to those that attempt to do it to you
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Regular is a hypocrite, and a liar.
Cosmo,
My little girl was wondering if you want to take her little Chihuahua away. You won’t be that heartless will you? She is very worried after I told her that there are climate nazi’s out there that want to eat her dog. And to think she only thought she had to worry about authentic Mexican restaurants.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-goldberg27-2009oct27,0,1400470.column
I mean, by all means, tax America (you can get blood from a turnip if you try really hard) and give away its soveriegnty, but please leave her dog alone! Please, we’re begging you.
I’ve noticed lately that Freebird1971 has a knack for bringing out the best in people.
Keep on keepin’ on, brother.
“Freebird1971″ –
Yeah, you and I generally disagree on politics.
I’m left of you, you’re left of “Regular.”
You got a dose up-thread (his 12:26 post) of how ol’ “Regular” responds to your moderate point-of-view.
As a dyed-in-the-wool Kansas “libruhl,” I learned in Southern California just how conservative I really am. No one in in Kansas seems to have a clue that my political views are way more moderate than they can imagine.
We have a lot of miles between us, “Freebird1971,” but I’m up for a breakfast with you if the logistics can be worked out.
I’ve set up meet-ups with “HLP” and “Nathaniel” and they backed off, even if the meal put me into a 2-guns-to-nothing disadvantage.
That was then.
This is now.
If you’ve decided WE Blog CONs somehow speak for you, go with it. But “Regular” gave you a clue up-thread if you dare to veer from whatever the CONs believe, you are anathema.
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Pleefer
Posted October 27, 2009 at 1:21 pm | Permalink
I mean, by all means, tax America (you can get blood from a turnip if you try really hard) and give away its soveriegnty, but please leave her dog alone! Please, we’re begging you.
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Did she name her dog Checkers, ’cause you’re really tugging at my heartstrings, Pleef.
Monkeyhawk,
I think a lot of people that post here are caught up in a trap of day/night, up/down, hot/cold thinking. They see WE Blog as a field with clearly delineated teams, one in blue and one in red, that are engaged in constant battle. If you’re on the blue team, you sure as hell can’t be friends with or be friendly to those batids on the red team and vice versa.
Personally, I see the WE Blog as more of a Jackson Pollock painting. It’s chaotic and interesting. Sure there are reds and blues there, but there are also yellows, greens, oranges, and pinks. Sometimes, different colored splatters overlap and occupy the same space creating completely different colors!
Open your minds, people. Learn to see the world from a perspective that is outside your own experience once in awhile. It makes life and WE Blog much more interesting.
A hypochondriac and a lion!
The dogs’ name is Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern- schplenden- schlitter- crasscrenbon- fried- digger- dingle- dangle- dongle- dungle- burstein- von- knacker- thrasher- apple- banger- horowitz- ticolensic- grander- knotty- spelltinkle- grandlich- grumblemeyer- spelterwasser- kurstlich- himbleeisen- bahnwagen- gutenabend- bitte- ein- nürnburger- bratwustle- gerspurten- mitz- weimache- luber- hundsfut- gumberaber- shönedanker- kalbsfleisch- mittler- aucher von Hautkopft of Ulm.
In honor of the great composer.
And I didn’t mean to sound like I was feeling sorry for myself Daniel, I just wanted Cosmo to know that we’re a little concerned in the Pleefer household.
Jackson Pollock never once painted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HevM-35hJUE
If you’ve never heard of Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern- schplenden- schlitter- crasscrenbon- fried- digger- dingle- dangle- dongle- dungle- burstein- von- knacker- thrasher- apple- banger- horowitz- ticolensic- grander- knotty- spelltinkle- grandlich- grumblemeyer- spelterwasser- kurstlich- himbleeisen- bahnwagen- gutenabend- bitte- ein- nürnburger- bratwustle- gerspurten- mitz- weimache- luber- hundsfut- gumberaber- shönedanker- kalbsfleisch- mittler- aucher von Hautkopft of Ulm
…you really need to investigate him.
Pleefer,
Can your “little girl” read?
If she can, ask her to explain to you why your 1:21 pm post misquotes the BS “opinion” column written by Jonah Goldberg.
And you should explain to her why you are some combination of ignorant, confused, and/or lying about the climate issue.
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Pleefer
Posted October 27, 2009 at 1:58 pm | Permalink
Jackson Pollock never once painted.
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If you define ‘painting’ as the act of applying paint to a canvas with a brush while the brush makes contact with said canvas, then Pollock wasn’t a painter.
He was more of a splatterer, pourer, flinger, and dripper.
Now wait a minute here…
Now, did I misquote myself? Or did I misquote the opinion? Or did the BS opinion misquote my 1:21 post? Or did the opinionated Jew misquote the title of the book, “Time to Eat the Dog?: The Real Guide to Sustainable Living.” ?
I guess I am confused after all…
I think you’re just saying that my 1:21 post misquotes the “BS opinion” of Mr. Goldberg because you’re an anti-semite, scared of an opinion of a member of the Jewish community that goes against the views of yourself. This could be construed as hate speech…
The SPLC and ADL will be hearing from me about you.
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Pleefer
Posted October 27, 2009 at 2:00 pm | Permalink
…you really need to investigate him.
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I vaguely remember my parents watching Monty Python’s Flying Circus on PBS back in the dark ages before the advent of cable.
I remember thinking that the animation sequences were pretty cool but had no clue about the rest of it.
Daniel, I meant that he never created “art”. He splattered, poured, flung and dripped his way to “upper crust” glory. Art is supposed to define a culture…what the Hell, I ask did he define?
This “culture” we have today?
I’ve seen elephants and chimps at the zoo do better work.
Global Warming Flat-lined
Climate research Jeff Knight and eight other colleagues at at Met Hadley Centre in Exeter, UK state that the temperature trend for the last decade have been perfectly flat at 0.0 C.
So contrarians bloggers are right – there has been no increase in greenhouse warming.
– Science magazine, What Happened to Global Warming?, p.28
American Association for the Advancement of Science, (AAAS)
Daniel, I’m only 36 and (as far as I know) PBS is still operational and funded by the same fat cat robber barons (and, granted, from the smaller donations of Mr. and Mrs. Ecclectic American) that the “left” loves to hate to this day.
Monte Python is “thinking man” comedy, I can understand how you might not have a clue about it. =]
Here, try it again…you might like it this time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eMkth8FWno&feature=player_embedded
Is Pleefer’s “little girl” very proud of Pleefer’s reading deficiencies?
“The authors don’t actually suggest you eat your dog.“
‘Statistics experts reject global cooling claims ‘
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gGAa00xryzkYa7FUhfip-CDPM_tgD9BITAG00
What is that breeze?
Does anyone else smell junior-high-girl angst?
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
“The authors don’t actually suggest you eat your dog.“-Cosmo
That, again kids, is a very unstrategically placed “red herring”.
Why title the book “Time to Eat the Dog?: The Real Guide to Sustainable Living” then?
Isn’t there another (possibly better) analogy to use?
Do the writer’s suggest stacking and whacking all of these evil carbon-footprint-the-size-of-a-Hummer makers?
The Amazon “product description” is a little vague:
The world and its resources are finite, yet we are seemingly locked into a system based on growth: growth of population, growth of income and growth of consumption. From this irrefutable starting point, Time to Eat the Dog? attempts to uncover what sustainability really means. Brenda and Robert Vale explore the environmental impact of the decisions we make, from what we eat and what we wear to how we travel and enjoy ourselves. Their book will make you see your life and your place in the world in a completely new light. Challenging the orthodoxies that underpin our entire economic system, this is one subversive read.
And I’ll never pay the $18 bones for a book that should be free…I mean it is for the greater-good of the Earth and not just to fatten up their wallets, right?
How many carbon credits did they use up printing this book and then shipping it? Would it be more “Earth-friendly” to have been a free online book? Printing money produces carbon as well as anything else.
Hopefully we can halt this “over-population” problem with some “eco-friendly” wars, huh?
Obama should make a promise to do that.
Pleef,
GChat brother.
Pleefer,
Oh, I’ve always enjoyed Monty Python. I appreciate The Life of Brian, The Meaning of Life, and Monty Python and the Holy Grail. My friends and I used to trot around the playground clapping wooden blocks together singing songs about brave Sir Robin and saying ‘ni!’. We thought we were pretty darned avant-garde for 4th graders.
Monty Python’s Flying Circus only had a limited run on broadcast television and I was too young at that time to understand the humor, aside from the physical stuff.
Daniel, now silly, you know the slap-stick shtick was a gag, the “grown-up” stuff is what brings on the uneasy laughs.
But it’d be dumb to argue on the finer points, intricacies and genius of those zany Brits. So I’ll put the kibosh on it now (for our protection and for national securities sake).
But yeah, I had fun doing the same thing in 4th grade myself, only I said “nigh” instead of “ni”, but we’re on the same page here…
Remember when Obama said, “Because the truth is that promoting science isn’t just about providing resources — it’s about protecting free and open inquiry. It’s about ensuring that facts and evidence are never twisted or obscured by politics or ideology…”
Guess he must have not told the people who work for him about the facts and evidence never being twisted or obscured. The Washington Post in an article titled, “Why such a shortage of swine flu vaccine?” reports “administration officials” as saying,
“Administration officials said they have reported the production slowdowns along the way, and said they were at the mercy of a science that is highly unpredictable and unreliable.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/26/AR2009102603487.html?wpisrc=newsletter
And because of the swine flu vaccine warm and fuzzy statements about there being “plenty of it by mid October” ended up being…umm…misleading and in error, we are now to believe that this same in error and misleading government can take care of and support an entire health care system??
Yep, I’m looking forward to this “warm and fuzzy” future of ours.
Our very own Kathy on kids and swine flu. Kids you have to go to school so you can eat. Our very own nanny government will take care of you.
RUSH: Now, we’ve all been told by Kathleen Sebelius, the Health and Human Services secretary, how horrible the swine flu is out there; gotta get a vaccine, must take it, horrible, it’s deadly, it’s bad, it’s rotten. So she’s on the Today show yesterday, and the co-host, Matt Lauer, interviewed her, and Matt Lauer said, “Remember in the spring there were some countries, in Mexico, for example, they took much more aggressive steps to curb the spread of the virus, they shut down a lot of public facilities, they discouraged large gatherings of people. Do we have a contingency plan in this country, Madam Secretary? A level of infection where we have a plan like that that we could put into effect?
SEBELIUS: Right now the public health officials weigh toward keeping schools open if there’s enough personnel to do that. It’s dangerous for kids often to not be in school, to not have a safe place to go, to not get fed on a regular basis, so knowing that we can contain this disease through vaccination and through mitigation, we’re trying to lean toward keeping the business going.
RUSH: Oh, man! I know! She doesn’t want to close the skrools because then many children will not be fed. That is the level of the welfare state we’ve become: if kids don’t go to school, they’ll go hungry, and even at the risk of getting the swine flu. We gotta send ‘em to school, otherwise they won’t eat! Otherwise they won’t be fed! The homes are unsafe. Homes are unsafe, schools — Snerdley, you heard her. You heard her. I can’t expand on this anymore.
Well…
If it’s about feeding the children, then I hope Obama gets his way.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090927/ap_on_re_us/us_more_school
Rush beating up on the dems and libs. I love it!
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_102709/content/01125104.guest.html
soldevvb posted October 27, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Does anyone else smell junior-high-girl angst?
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The smell is coming from soldevvb.
Rush oughta be beating up on Lindsey Graham for getting in bed with John Kerry to get rid of that nuisance that is, American soveriegnty.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/26/opinion/26iht-edban.html
But since he’s only interested in being the “right” side of the great divide, keeping the false left/right paradigm going is par for the course.
Rush, it seems, forgets that Bushco signed the “No Child Left Remembered” act. So they set “high standards” and those that cannot achieve those standards…are promoted!
Same with life.
Keep spending like there is no tomorrow, and there will be no tomorrow.
Visions of things to come:
“Blame the dollar: Gasoline jumps 26 cents in a month
The average price of unleaded regular gasoline in Chicago spiked 26
cents a gallon from a month ago to $2.85 and jumped 17 cents from a week
ago, according to AAA. Prices are advancing toward the year-ago level of
$3.05 a gallon.
Nationally, prices hit $2.67, rising for the 13th straight day.
PFGBest analyst Phil Flynn said weakness in the U.S. dollar has driven
the price of oil far beyond what normal supply and demand fundamentals
typically bear.
“The increase was driven not so much by demand but by declining gas
production and a weakening dollar,” Flynn said.”
http://www.suntimes.com/business/currency/1848003,CST-NWS-gas27.article
(American future under the Great Spender)
Just heard on KSN, there is a chance that an Indian tribe will build a casino in Park City. A Sedgwick County casino could happen after all.
I would imagine much wailing and gnashing of teeth among the vote no crowd.
Yes, hungry children is such an amusing topic.
Is this how Obama responds to being WRONG, or is it how he lies? Dems please tell.
Obama Told House Democrat He Wasn’t Talking about House Health Bill When He Told Congress ‘Our Plan’ Doesn’t Fund Abortion
Monday, October 26, 2009
Rep. Bart Stupak (D.-Mich.) told CNSNews.com that
President Barack Obama told him in a telephone conversation that when he said in his Sept. 9 speech to a joint session of Congress that “under
our plan no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions” he was not talking about the actual bill drafted in the House but about the president’s own health care plan-which has never been written.
“I don’t know if it is a game of semantics or what,” Stupak said of Obama’s nationally televised declaration to Congress that the
health-care plan will not allow federal funding of abortion.
Both the House and Senate versions of the health-care bill permit federal funds to pay for insurance plans that cover abortions.
In his speech to the joint session of Congress, Obama directly rebutted the claim that the plan would fund abortions, calling it a “misunderstanding.”
But in his later telephone conversation with Stupak,
according to the congressman, Obama said that when he claimed in the speech that the plan would not fund abortions he was not talking about the House plan, he was talking about his own plan.
“But respectfully Mr. President, you don’t have a plan!” Stupak said.
‘We Can Do It ‘
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/26/opinion/26iht-edban.html?_r=1
“Can we seal a comprehensive, equitable and ambitious deal in Copenhagen that will reduce greenhouse gas emissions and limit global temperature rise to a scientifically safe level? Can we catalyze clean energy growth? Can we help to protect the most vulnerable nations from the effects of climate change? Can we expect the United States to play a leading role?
The best answer to all these questions was given last week by Senators Kerry and Graham: “Yes, we can.” “
“CIA misled Congress five times since 2001, say Intel Dems
By Jared Allen – 10/27/09 04:22 PM ET
The CIA misled Congress at least five times since 2001, according to Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee.
The Democrats said CIA officials had either lied or withheld information from Congress. They also said CIA officials did not fully inform Congress about the use of enhanced interrogation techniques during a September 2002 briefing, which would validate House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) claim that she was lied to about the program.”
HA!
Where to find cosmo:
latfh.com
UN signals delay in climate change treaty
By EDITH M. LEDERER (AP) – 9 hours ago
UNITED NATIONS — Just weeks before an international conference on climate change, the United Nations signaled it was scaling back expectations of reaching agreement on a new treaty to slow global warming.
Janos Pasztor, director of the secretary-general’s Climate Change Support Team, said Monday “it’s hard to say how far the conference will be able to go” because the U.S. Congress has not agreed on a climate bill, and industrialized nations have not agreed on targets to reduce their carbon dioxide emissions or funding to help developing countries limit their discharges.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jqJmnNVzfiUOeSlVG4f8nQMbwQYQD9BJF6NG0
Oops.
http://www.latfh.com/
Go have a cup o’ joe at The Vagabond in it’s honor.
Democrats don’t care about the environment. Or, “Do as I say, not as I do.”
House Democrats are using an annual spending bill to exempt home state
interests from new environmental rules that the party typically
supports.
At issue is the treatment of Great Lakes freight vessels affected by
proposed Environmental Protection Agency regulations designed to reduce
harmful emissions. The rules are scheduled to take effect in December,
but House Appropriations Committee Chairman Dave Obey (D-Wis.) appeared
Monday night to have won an exemption for at least 13 older U.S. vessels
threatened by the regulations.
While the full details have not been released, House and Senate aides
confirmed to POLITICO the outlines of the deal expected to be ratified
Tuesday.
That’s when House-Senate negotiators are slated to meet on a $32
billion-plus natural resources bill covering the EPA’s budget for the
new fiscal year that began Oct. 1.
The same bill is likely to carry with it a stop-gap spending resolution
to keep most of the government operating into December. By slipping the
EPA exemption into the final talks on what will be a must-pass vehicle,
Obey can maximize his control over the process.
Politico
Boehner blasts House for lax work schedule amidst recession
Congress has been wasting its time with meaningless resolutions instead of working to fix the economy, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) charged Tuesday.
Boehner chided Democratic colleagues for taking up a resolution honoring the ancient Chinese philosopher Confucius..
MEANWHILE:
Republican Study Committee Chairman Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.) today introduced — along with 75 other Republicans — a resolution to officially commemorate the 9/12 taxpayer march on Washington.
“House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) claim that she was lied to about the program.”
HA!
So? What are you going to do about it? What is Congress going to do about it? I don’t think the democrats can even decide when to put on their shoes.
This country deserves everything.
This sounds like someone I know.
WASHINGTON — A former Marine who fought in Iraq, joined the State
Department after leaving the military and was a diplomat in a Taliban
stronghold in Afghanistan has become the first U.S. official to resign
in protest of the Afghan war, the Washington Post reported early
Tuesday.
Matthew Hoh, who describes himself as “not some peacenik, pot-smoking
hippie who wants everyone to be in love,” said he believes the war is
simply fueling the insurgency.
“I have lost understanding of and confidence in the strategic purposes
of the United States’ presence in Afghanistan,” Hoh wrote in his
resignation letter, dated Sept. 10 but published early Tuesday. “I have
doubts and reservations about our current strategy and planned future
strategy, but my resignation is based not upon how we are pursuing this
war, but why and to what end.”
The move sent ripples all the way to the White House, the paper said,
where officials immediately appealed for him to stay out of fear he
could become a leading critic
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/27/official-resigns-protest-afghan-war/
Obama Jokes
Q: What’s the main problem with Barack Obama jokes?
A: His followers don’t think they’re funny and everyone else doesn’t think they’re jokes.
Q: Why does Barack Obama oppose the Second Amendment?
A: It stands between him and the First.
Q: What’s the difference between Rahm Emanuel and a carp?
A: One is a scum sucking bottom feeder and the other is a fish.
Q: What’s the difference between Greta Van Susteren and Barack Obama?
A: Greta only talks out of one side of her mouth.
Q: What does Barack Obama call lunch with a convicted felon?
A: A fund raiser.
Q: What’s the difference between Obama’s cabinet and a penitentiary?
A: One’s full of tax evaders, blackmailers and threats to society. The other is for prisoners.
Q: What’s the difference between a large pizza and the typical Obama backer?
A: The pizza can feed a family of four.
Q: What’s the difference between a zoo and the White House?
A: A zoo has an African lion and the White House has a lyin’ African.
Q: If Pelosi and Obama were in a boat and it started to sink, who would be saved?
A: America!
Q: What do you call the US after four years of Obama and the Liberal congress?
A: An Obama-nation.
Q: What’s the difference between Obama and Hitler?
A: Hitler wrote his own book.
Q: What’s another difference between Obama and Hitler?
A: Hitler got the Olympics to come to his country.
Q: Why doesn’t Obama pray?
A: It’s impossible to read the teleprompter with your eyes closed.
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Monkeyhawk
Posted October 27, 2009 at 1:27 pm | Permalink
“Freebird1971? –
Yeah, you and I generally disagree on politics.
I’m left of you, you’re left of “Regular.”
You got a dose up-thread (his 12:26 post) of how ol’ “Regular” responds to your moderate point-of-view.
As a dyed-in-the-wool Kansas “libruhl,” I learned in Southern California just how conservative I really am. No one in in Kansas seems to have a clue that my political views are way more moderate than they can imagine.
We have a lot of miles between us, “Freebird1971,” but I’m up for a breakfast with you if the logistics can be worked out.
I’ve set up meet-ups with “HLP” and “Nathaniel” and they backed off, even if the meal put me into a 2-guns-to-nothing disadvantage.
That was then.
This is now.
If you’ve decided WE Blog CONs somehow speak for you, go with it. But “Regular” gave you a clue up-thread if you dare to veer from whatever the CONs believe, you are anathema.
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I would be pleased to break bread with you as you said if we can work the logistics out.
I certainly do not march in Lock step with the cons or libs,which I think vexes people like Regular and Blue jay because I know the world isn’t black or white but varying shades of color which is soomething they either can’t or won’t grasp
HLP…
those are funny.
I’ll be copying and pasting these (well at least until “hate speech” legislation is passed and signed. Then Ima toss ‘em back into your court.
Freebird1971 I certainly do not march in Lock step with the cons or libs,which I think vexes people like Regular and Blue jay because I know the world isn’t black or white but varying shades of color which is soomething they either can’t or won’t grasp
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It doesn’t vex me. What I find interesting is your chance to condemn me at every opportunity you get.
I’ve never done or said anything to you other than your direct messages to me. Yet you brand me as some sort of ‘personal demon’ you can’t release from your own confused mind.
cosmos=cosmetology?
Isn’t saying that someone is the first official to resign just another way of that someone is the only official to resign?
•Daniel
Posted October 27, 2009 at 7:47 pm | Permalink
Isn’t saying that someone is the first official to resign just another way of that someone is the only official to resign?
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NO
Not anymore than that a runner stepped out of the race doesn’t mean the race is over or other runners won’t step out.
Ok, but a race has more than one participant moving towards a pre-defined finish.
One runner running laps around a track really doesn’t constitute a race. When the lone runner stops running, is he or she the first runner to stop running or the only runner to stop running?
American_Way = too much trans fat?
Daniel
Posted October 27, 2009 at 8:01 pm | Permalink
Ok, but a race has more than one participant moving towards a pre-defined finish.
One runner running laps around a track really doesn’t constitute a race. When the lone runner stops running, is he or she the first runner to stop running or the only runner to stop running?
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There is over three more years left in O’BAMA’s reign.
Plenty of time for other things to happen…
I’ve never done or said anything to you other than your direct messages to me. Yet you brand me as some sort of ‘personal demon’ you can’t release from your own confused mind.
If I wanted to have a personal demon it would be far more impressive and intimidating than you. Confused mind? Nah I just saw hypocrisy and just pointed it out
Oct. 27, 2009
Confidence drops for second straight month in Oct.
Assessment of current conditions lowest in 26 years
WASHINGTON (Market Watch) — U.S. consumers doubt that the much-touted economic recovery is under way, according to the latest report on consumer confidence released by the Conference Board on Tuesday.
The consumer confidence index was much weaker than expected, falling for the second straight month as the assessment of present-day conditions fell to its lowest level in 26 years.
“This indicator, and its component detail, appears to be pointing to a longer and more difficult journey to recovery than most would like to believe at the moment,” said Josh Shapiro, chief economist at MFR Inc., in a note to clients.
The Conference Board’s consumer confidence index fell to 47.7 in October from an upwardly revised 53.4 in September, according to the survey of 5,000 households.
Sorry for long article. But it might make some Obama people think (although I have my reservations).
What if Bush had done that?
Josh Gerstein – Tue Oct 27, 6:02 am ET
A four-hour stop in New Orleans, on his way to a $3 million fundraiser.
Snubbing the Dalai Lama.
Signing off on a secret deal with drug makers.
Freezing out a TV network.
Doing more fundraisers than the last president. More golf, too.
President Barack Obama has done all of those things — and more.
What’s remarkable is what hasn’t happened. These episodes haven’t become
metaphors for Obama’s personal and political character — or consuming
controversies that sidetracked the rest of his agenda.
It’s a sign that the media’s echo chamber can be a funny thing,
prone to the vagaries of news judgment, and an illustration that, in
politics, context is everything.
Conservatives look on with a mix of indignation and amazement and ask:
Imagine the fuss if George W. Bush had done these things?
And quickly add, with a hint of jealousy: How does Obama get away with
it?
Will be interesting if Health Care reform passes with the Senate Majority leader wheeling and dealing with pork packages.
We’ll be watching and report how many pieces of silver it took to bribe the Senators to betray their constituents.
Government to Use Supercomputer to Make Health Care Rationing Decisions
Supercomputer Studying H1N1, Determining Best Use of Vaccine
Tuesday, October 27, 2009
AUSTIN, Texas — A supercomputer at the University of Texas in Austin is being used to help study swine flu and determine the best use of the limited vaccine.
KXAN-TV reports the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention \l “” used information from the UT research group for the distribution strategy of the vaccine.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,569765,00.html?test=latestnews
“We have a joke about it. We’re going to start a website: IfBushHadDoneThat.com,” former Bush counselor Ed Gillespie said. “The watchdogs are curled up around his feet, sleeping soundly. … There are countless examples: some silly, some serious.”
Indeed, Bush got grief for secret meetings with the oil industry, politicizing the White House and spending too much time on his beloved bike. But it’s not just Republicans who notice. Media observers note that the president often gets kid-glove treatment from the press, fellow Democrats and, particularly, interest groups on the left — Bush’s loudest critics, Obama’s biggest backers.
But others say there’s a larger phenomenon at work — in the story line the media wrote about Obama’s presidency. For Bush, the theme was that of a Big Business Republican who rode the family name to the White House, so stories about secret energy meetings and a certain laziness, intellectual and otherwise, fit neatly into the theme, to be replayed over and over again.
Obama’s story line was more positive from the start: historic newcomer coming to shake up Washington. So the negatives that sprung up around Obama — like a sense that he was more flash than substance — track what negative coverage he’s received, captured in a recent “Saturday Night Live” skit that made fun of his lack of accomplishments in office.
“There may well be almost an unconscious effort on the part of the media to give Obama a bit more slack because he is more likable, because he is the first African-American president. That plays into it,” said a political analyst at the University of Southern California.
Democrats find the complaints of Obama “getting a pass” hard to stomach in light of the way the press treated Bush — particularly on the single biggest mistake of his presidency, relying on the faulty intelligence leading up to the war in Iraq. Now, Obama’s aides say, the positive coverage simply reflects the fact that their efforts are succeeding.
“As our administration makes progress on the agenda that Washington has ignored for too long, we expect we’ll get some news coverage of that progress that we like and some tough coverage that we don’t,” White House spokesman Josh Earnest said. “It’s not unlike the New Orleans Saints, who are getting lots of good coverage of their perfect record so far — certainly better coverage than the [2-5] Redskins — but it doesn’t mean the Saints have liked every story that’s been written about them since training camp. It goes with the territory.”
There are signs the friendly tone toward Obama is ebbing. Case in point: a front-page story in The New York Times noting that Obama’s all-male basketball games drew fire from the head of the National Organization for Women, who called the games “troubling.”
Chas
Posted October 27, 2009 at 9:21 am | Permalink
ANTI — For as long as I have been on this Blog, I have used ONE Nic… “Chas” — I have been accused by you, and others, of using more than one… All of those accusations are LIES..
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Sugar
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There was another, but I forget.
But here are other stories in which Obama seems to have gotten a pass:
New Orleans
As a candidate, Obama railed against the Bush administration for abandoning and then neglecting the people of New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina. He made five campaign trips to the city.
But as president, Obama waited almost nine months before visiting the Big Easy, spent less than four hours on the ground there and then jetted to San Francisco for a $3 million Democratic fundraiser.
“Don’t judge anybody on the amount of time that they’ve spent there. Judge only what this administration promised that they would do, what they’ve done every day and what they’re continuing to work on,” press secretary Robert Gibbs said, pointing to positive reviews of the federal government’s efforts under Obama.
For their part, Democrats can’t see how Bush officials can muster much umbrage over anything related to New Orleans, given how the Republican administration handled the initial response to Katrina.
Managing the press
When the Obama administration moved in recent weeks to isolate and disparage Fox News as a wing of the Republican Party, there were few immediate howls of outrage — even from Fox’s fellow journalists in the media.
Press defenders and First Amendment advocates who jumped on the Bush administration for using military analysts to shape war coverage reacted with a yawn to the White House’s announcement that it had deemed Fox to be not a “legitimate news organization.”
“Had I said about MSNBC what the Obama White House said about Fox, the media uproar would still be going on,” said Ari Fleischer, who served as Bush’s press secretary until 2003. “I instinctively would have known … the media would have leapt to their feet to defend them. I’m shocked it’s not happening now.”
One press veteran agreed. “If George Bush had taken on MSNBC, what would have happened?” said Phil Bronstein, editor-at-large of the San Francisco Chronicle. “That’s one place you can point to a real difference in how I’d imagine Bush would be treated.”
Politicizing the White House
Throughout the Bush administration, liberal critics warned that the hand of Bush political adviser Karl Rove was spreading politics into all corners of government. Reporters were on alert for any sign that politics was infecting the work of federal agencies. One top appointee got in hot water for allegedly asking agency officials to work to “help our candidates” across the country.
So some Bush aides went nearly apoplectic earlier this month when they spotted Gibbs and Obama’s political guru, David Axelrod, in photos of a Situation Room meeting on Afghanistan policy.
“Oh, the howling and screaming that would have happened if Karl Rove was sitting in on even a deputies-level meeting where strategy was being hammered out. People would have just gone ballistic,” said Peter Feaver, a former White House aide for both Bush and Bill Clinton.
Also, in about nine months, Obama has already attended more than two dozen fundraising events, while Bush did only six in his first year in office, according to a tally by CBS’s Mark Knoller.
Gibbs said Obama had to do more to raise a similar amount of money, since the kinds of soft-money fundraisers Bush did early on were banned. “This president … doesn’t accept money from PACs or lobbyists and doesn’t allow lobbyists to give at fundraisers that he’s at, as well,” Gibbs added.
Dealing with business, in secret
Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney endured years of criticism and lawsuits that stretched all the way to the Supreme Court over secret meetings Cheney’s Energy Task Force held with oil and gas companies. When the policy emerged, critics said Cheney was carrying water for the industry.
Obama pledged to hash out health care reform live on C-SPAN and excoriated Bush for kowtowing to the drug industry. But aides signed off on the drug industry’s agreement to find $80 billion in savings to support reform. However, Obama aides didn’t disclose that the agreement involved the White House promising that current health legislation wouldn’t include further cuts or give the government the right to negotiate over drug prices.
Toning down human rights
During the campaign, Obama talked tough on China. While candidate Obama pushed Bush to take a hard line, President Obama hasn’t. Hoping to win China’s help on Iran and North Korea, Obama skipped a meeting with the Dalai Lama and said little when China undertook a violent crackdown in its largely Muslim Xinjiang region. The White House has pledged to meet with the Dalai Lama later.
And while candidate Obama warned Bush against a “reckless and cynical initiative [that] would reward a regime in Khartoum that has a record of failing to live up to its commitments,” President Obama’s envoy to Sudan, Scott Gration, seemed to lay out a similar incentive-driven approach.
“We’ve got to think about giving out cookies,” said Gration. “Kids, countries — they react to gold stars, smiley faces, handshakes, agreements, talk, engagement.” The White House backed away from Gration’s characterization of the strategy but did recently lay out a strategy of engaging with the Sudanese regime.
Traveling and recreating
In his campaign and as president, Bush was mocked for a lack of interest in all things foreign — seven minutes touring the Kremlin, 25 minutes at the Great Wall of China, before declaring, “Let’s go home.”
During a trip to Europe in June, Obama chastised German and French reporters for suggesting that he was snubbing those countries by making only brief stops in each. “There are only 24 hours in the day. And so there’s nothing to any of that speculation beyond us just trying to fit in what we could do on such a short trip,” he told reporters in Germany.
But after taking his wife out for an attention-grabbing date night, Obama promptly jetted back to Washington. Within about 90 minutes of arriving at the White House, the tightly scheduled president was on the move again — headed to Andrews Air Force Base to play nine holes of golf.
- POLITICO
American_Way
Posted October 27, 2009 at 5:50 pm | Permalink
Is this how Obama responds to being WRONG, or is it how he lies? Dems please tell.
Obama Told House Democrat He Wasn’t Talking about House Health Bill When He Told Congress ‘Our Plan’ Doesn’t Fund Abortion
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More Obama Jabberwocky.
Obama is a Liar.
8 U.S. Troops Killed in Afghan Blasts
Rash of bomb attacks in southern Afghanistan claims the lives of eight U.S. troops
KABUL — Eight American troops were killed in multiple bomb attacks Tuesday in southern Afghanistan, making October the deadliest month of the war for U.S. forces since it began in 2001.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,569786,00.html
Obama While You Are Thinking, More Americans Were Killed This Month then in Any Month of the Entire Afghanistan War. Bring Our Troops Home!
Good Advise for Obama:
October 27, 2009
Lessons for the White House from the Doctor Fix Debacle
By Sen. Tom Coburn
If the first lesson is to get serious about the deficit, the second lesson for the White House is to go back to first principles and conduct this effort with more maturity and less partisanship.
When Barack Obama launched his campaign in 2007 he said, “… it’s not the magnitude of our problems that concerns me the most. It’s the smallness of our politics … We have to change our politics, and come together around our common interests and concerns as Americans.”
Why then, on the eve of the most important domestic policy debate in a generation, are the President’s advisers talking about Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Fox News? Is this really a common interest and concern among Americans? Would the average voter consider this form of politics to be big or small?
By spending time on juvenile and crass partisan strategies the President’s advisers triangulated the wrong target – their own allies. Their tone and tactics united Republicans (all 40 voted against the doctor fix) and caused 12 key allies to fall away.
The Barack Obama I know and worked with in the Senate (through his initiation) is capable of so much more. America needs that Barack Obama to change the tone and go back to attacking problems rather than personalities.
If he does, he’ll find plenty of friends ready to work with him – old and new. Every Republican wants to enact comprehensive health care reform that lowers costs, improves quality and increases choice. No matter how often our motives are questioned we will be ready to discuss plans like the Patients’ Choice Act, which I’m sponsoring with Senator Burr (R-NC) and Representatives Paul Ryan (R-WI) and Devin Nunes (R-CA), that cover more people than the Democrat plans without pushing our economy off a cliff.
Yes, elections have consequences. The White House certainly has the right to continue its clever partisan strategy. Yet, history shows this process will succeed only if it is truly bipartisan. The doctor fix debate showed that partisanship is the far riskier road.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/10/27/lessons_for_the_white_house_from_the_doctor_fix_debacle_98884.html#at
Obama Gives Away More Corporate Welfare
I saw a post yesterday or the day before about how profitable the Utility Companies are.
Now, Government money is being given to them, the big, evil, rich Utility Companies! Shouldn’t those Utilities be investing their profits in new infrastructure, instead of taking Government money?
The Smart Grid Is On Its Way — Slowly
Tue Oct 27, 2009
Today, President Obama travels to Arcadia, Florida, home to one of the nation’s biggest solar power plants, to announced 100 grants providing a total of $3.4 billion in recovery-act funding for the smart grid.
http://www.reuters.com/article/gwmCarbonEmissions/idUS70918651120091027
Private industry is kickin’ in over four billion dollars on this grid project, too.
A great project. Jobs! Modern infrastructure… built in the USA and not in Iraq.
Saw this on PBS the other day:
Cloud: Wild Stallion of the Rockies
Beautiful scenery in Moutain, a documentary on wild horses.
You can watch the whole video at this link.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/episodes/cloud-wild-stallion-of-the-rockies/introduction/29/
What I don’t understand is why the Obama Administration had these wild horses rounded-up!
Sad ending.
Obama – Let The Wild Horses Run Free!
In the September 2009 roundup in the Pryors, 57 horses were removed. Among those are many that you meet in Cloud: Challenge of the Stallions- the following were removed. They are in good homes but they have lost what they value most: their families and their freedom. Cloud’s daughter: Rain is now in VA; Cloud’s granddaughter, Arrow (the bay filly with a big star) is now in Colorado; Ember and Image are in Ohio together; Cloud’s dun mare (who he gets in this show) was removed, as was his brother, Sax — who I adopted and now is part of the band at my ranch with Cloud’s sisters and Trace. The massive roundup of this herd was unnecessary and costly: $150,000 to remove 57 horses. Among those were the entire bands belonging to stallions Conquistador, Bo, Trigger and Shane. These horses, along with blue roan bachelor who was traumatized in the processing chutes, are now on a ranch in Montana. The Cloud Foundation, due to an incredible amount of support, was able to rescue these horses, and keep the bands together.
It is our hope that this sub-population can be returned to their home in the wild. Summer, Shaman’s granddaughter who was with Bolder, and Bolder’s only daughter over a year old, were removed as well. The black bachelor, Stiles, who you see chasing Sitka and Flint at the beginning of the film, was also removed. He has since been gelded but was rescued by a sanctuary in New Mexico.
Millions of people know Cloud’s band and herd so well but the 12,000 other horses and burros being removed now are equally important and we must stop these massive roundups.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/episodes/cloud-challenge-of-the-stallions/a-live-discussion-with-filmmaker-ginger-kathrens/5283/
DavidB
Posted October 27, 2009 at 9:06 pm | Permalink
Private industry is kickin’ in over four billion dollars on this grid project, too.
A great project. Jobs! Modern infrastructure… built in the USA and not in Iraq.
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The Utilities are some of the most profitable companies in the US today.
They are evil.
They should be routinely upgrading their own infrastructure using their own profits to do this.
And the power companies will reap the benefits of new infrastructure, paid for by taxpayers TWICE – with Taxes, and when paying Utility Bills.
No place for wild horses on Ken Salazar’s New Frontier?
By Alan Prendergast in Follow That Story, News, PoliticsWed., Aug. 19 2009
The Obama administration talks tall about its fresh ideas and new directions. Especially at the Department of the Interior, where Secretary Ken Salazar has vowed to change course from the Bush years and develop sound public-land policy based on science, not political influence — as detailed in my April feature, “The Zen of Ken.”
But there’s one group of battered constitutents who don’t see much difference between the new boss and the old boss. Advocates for the 37,000 wild horses and burros roaming public lands are still fighting dubious Bureau of Land Management policies that they say are consigning thousands of wild mustangs to holding pens, sending some to their doom — and decimating entire herds. “We might as well be back in the Bush administration,” says filmmaker Ginger Kathrens, who heads up the Colorado Springs-based Cloud Foundation. “Anyone who’s studied BLM knows they’ve zeroed out over a hundred herds. They’re managing wild horses to extinction.”
http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2009/08/no_place_for_wild_horses_on_ke.php
Sure is nice not having all those pesky liberals clogging up the board with whines, name-calling, half-truths, and no truths. All them stuck on the one party line, never venturing to post their own beliefs (if they still have any independent of the party). And loving Obama.
Couldn’t take the con heat I suppose.
Victory over the liberal sewer of Wichita.
The light of righteousness shines through once again.
Oh Roach, they still show up sometimes for an a $ $ whooping.
They seem to enjoy it.
“Couldn’t take the con heat I suppose.”
That’ll be the day.
Legends in their own minds.
“con heat”
What’s that? Two little fireflies rubbing their feet together?
Alan Grayson for President! Enough with Barack the con apologist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbELSIImfZI
Legends in their own minds.
Legends in their own minds.
Legends in their own minds.
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Posted October 27, 2009 at 11:33 pm | Permalink
Legends in their own minds.
Legends in their own minds.
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foxnews.com? I concur.
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I can’t argue with that.
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Posted October 27, 2009 at 11:43 pm | Permalink
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Nor this.
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roach,
“The light of righteousness shines through once again.”
That’s not the “light of righteousness,” it’s your sunlamp dumbutt, and you’re turning red. Time to crawl back under your rock.
Mr. Johnson: re your 8:59pm post:
The government did award 3.4 billion to the companies that will be hiring workers for the next couple of years to help us reduce our dependence on foreign oil by developing the “Smart Grid Program.” The companies involved in this effort have come up with over 4 billion dollars to add to the government’s award. I think it is better for government to create jobs than to pay out unemployment benefits, especially since if this is a successful program, we won’t be sending Saudi Arabia so much $ for their oil.
Lol my roomate was standing here as i read this and was all like LOL somone posted a link to that in a chat the other day and low and behold its here. http://tinyurl.com/ye95zu7