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Time for some comparative analysis. MH, Chas and Capn listen to (and in capn’s case, “research”)the extremist Rush Limbaugh. they then ascribe the extremist ramblings of one extremist to all conservatives. That generalization is off base, innaccurate and simplistic. But, it doesn’t stop them.
So, I offer my own comparison. the poster ‘bj’ is an extremist lib who says he doesn’t obey laws he doesn’t like. Ergo, bj is stupid.
by that logic, all libs are stupid.
If you can use Rush as an example of all conservatives, I can use the childish extemist bj as an example of all liberals.
This might stun you, “Raptor” –
But Limbaugh has more clout in the national discourse than “BlueJay.”
Perhaps you haven’t noticed that.
I’ve frequently been critical of “BlueJay’s” politics.
I’ve never seen a WE Blog CON express repulsion for Limbaugh’s idiocy. Most of the time CONs tend to echo the inflammatory rhetoric they worship via AM radio every weekday.
“HLP” even pays extra to Limbaugh to get a fix of wing-nuttery when Limbaugh is
buying hillbilly heroin in the Pizza Hut parking lotoff the air.It’s interesting, with the first comment on an Open Thread, you choose to attack a WE Blog poster with nothing to prompt your personal attack.
It’s not even 7 in the morning and you bring on unprovoked personal hate and insults.
I’m on record for critiquing many of “BlueJay’s” issues and style.
When’s the last time you came out with even a modicum of criticism of Rush Limbaugh’s rhetoric?
Show your work.
I don’t have a national radio show “raptor”. I also don’t lie to my “audience” in order to get them to vote my best interests over theirs as Limbaugh does.
I also do not acquire my self affirmation from the genuflection of people while exploiting them.
What is more “Raptor”, the left cannot claim me because I did not grow up there, I am originally a “better dead than red!” conservative who grew a conscience and left the right.
It appears that Harry Reid along with is fellow dim leadership team seem to think their states should receive spceial benefits under the Obamacare bill:
Kansas Liberty: 21 October 2009
Harry Reid and Dem leadership attempt to lock in special benefits for their constituents.
Kansans will have to pay to support health care in states favored by Democrats
Reports from Washington, D.C., show that Democrats working on the health-care plan they are trying to pass are making sure to add in some bonuses for the states they represent.
Senate Democrats have worked in extra provisions to the reform plans that would give their states special advantages, including financial assistance with Medicaid costs, additional Medicare benefits and extra tax breaks for some residents. Republicans point out that these advantages will shift some of the costs of the plan to other states, including Kansas.
Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, has been instrumental in adding in extra benefits for himself and for his Democratic colleagues.
In September, Reid negotiated successfully with the Senate Finance Committee Chair Max Baucus to ensure that Nevada, Oregon, Rhode Island and Michigan would receive an exemption from having to pay any funds to support Medicaid expansions mandated by the reform.
The federal government would provide 95 percent of the costs of expanding Medicaid in 46 other states for five years, at which time the states would need to pick up the remainder of the tab, amounting to millions of dollars. Exempted states, such as Nevada, would get 100 percent of the costs covered.
Reid’s amendment was centered on providing an exemption for states with the highest unemployment and the lowest Medicaid enrollment.
Although Nevada’s Medicaid enrollment may be smaller than other states now, it is expected to be the state that experiences the most growth in residents who would become eligible under the Baucus plan.
States with Democratic Senators may be gaining advantages, but states such as Kansas could end up at a disadvantage.
“This is what we’ve come to expect from Harry Reid and the Democratic leadership,” Lisa Burgess, spokesperson for the Kansas GOP, told Kansas Liberty. “It is the height of hypocrisy to push a massive government overhaul onto the American people, one that the majority of Americans oppose, but not share in the devastating effects it will impart.”
Burgess noted that this is not the first time Democrats have fought to impart additional burdens onto Republican states, as the cap-and-trade efforts, which are heavily touted by the Democrats, would also result in an additional burden being placed on Midwestern states.
“Reid, Pelosi and the Democrats in Congress will continue to push their liberal agenda at the expense of Americans in the Heartland,” Burgess said.
The Baucus health-care proposal passed out of the Senate Finance Committee last Tuesday and now is being consolidated with the House’s more liberal version of reform. Democratic leaders are working together with members of the Obama administration to draft the final version of the reform.
Sarah Little, spokesperson for Kansas Republican Sen. Pat Roberts, said Roberts has been concerned from the start that the legislation would be bent to benefit Democrats and their constituents.
“That has been one of Roberts’ concerns from the beginning,” Little told Kansas Liberty. “However, we will have to see the final bill that is proposed and then try to amend it on the floor.”
Kansas Republican Sen. Sam Brownback has also said he plans to engage in a lively debate once the reform makes it to the Senate floor. Though the Republican Party may be gearing up with a long list of amendments, many of the reform amendments brought up in committee by the GOP were defeated along party lines.
Roberts, a member of the Senate Finance Committee, cautioned fellow committee members that the Baucus bill would be changed dramatically directly before he voted against the reform.
Although the Baucus health care bill was supposed to be seen as a “moderate” bill, and did not include a public option, Roberts warned that once the bill was out of committee, Democrats would twist it into a reform plan that only slightly resembled the Baucus bill.
And now Robert’s concerns that the Democrats would alter the bill to promote their liberal agendas seem to be coming true.
“As I predicted from the start….this bill will be written behind closed doors and the American people will pay for it,” Roberts told Kansas Liberty. “Real reform doesn’t need the secrecy the majority has shrouded it in.”
Baucus’ plan has hundreds of billions of dollars in cuts to Medicare, while extending benefits for Medicaid.
No matter how the Democrats alter the bill, Kansas is already at a disadvantage. The state would have to provide funds to cover the expansion because of the steep increase in residents who would be eligible for the Medicaid benefits.
A Heritage Foundation report published earlier this month demonstrated how certain states would be affected more than other states by the expansion of Medicaid.
The Baucus bill extends Medicaid coverage to adults with incomes below 133 percent of the poverty line. Kansas was identified as a state that would have to absorb the cost of an approximate 51 percent increase in the amount of eligible recipients if the plan became law.
The Heritage report lumped states into four different categories to demonstrate which states would be affected the most. Kansas fell into the fourth category, the group that would experience greatest increase in eligible residents, along with 10 other states.
Nevada was also in the fourth category, and was identified as being the state that would experience the greatest Medicaid expansion, with an increase of more than 82 percent.
Overall, the Congressional Budget Office has predicted that states’ budgets would have to increase in size by at least $37 billion to cover the additional benefits mandated by the federal government’s reform plans.
Kansas Gov. Mark Parkinson, a Democrat, is promoting his party’s health-care plan.
“Gov. Parkinson knows that Kansas families and small businesses are being crushed by skyrocketing health-care costs,” Parkinson’s spokesperson, Beth Martino, told Kansas Liberty. “Without reform, health insurance premiums will continue to overburden the budgets of Kansas families — and even more Kansans will go without coverage. The governor, like many Kansans, is hopeful there will be real and substantive reform that will benefit all Americans.”
— Holly Smith
Harry Reid is getting desperate. He thinks he can buy votes with tax money because he’s losing in the polls.
Reid will go the way of Tom Dashal and be another dim leader to lose his seat.
Voting Present Is Not an Option [Victor Davis Hanson]
While our Narcissus-in-Chief is frozen gazing at his perfect image in his private pool, choices have to be made in Afghanistan. Consider the following:
(a) We have a Democratically controlled Congress that by and large has supported, since 2004, the Kerry-Obama-Hillary Clinton narrative of a “good” war in Afghanistan, supposedly shamefully neglected by George Bush’s neo-con adventure in Iraq, but absolutely vital to the security of the United States, and one entirely winnable — if only we allot sufficient resources.
(b) We have a proven command in Generals McChrystal and Petraeus and their circle of subordinates, who crafted a winning counterinsurgency strategy in Iraq that defeated the terrorists, ensured stability for the fragile constitutional government, and took a tremendous toll on the human and material resources of al-Qaeda, as well as the reputation of radical Islam among the Middle East street.
(c) We have thousands of battle-hardened, experienced veteran soldiers and their officers, who know far more about the Middle East in general, and counter-insurgency in particular, than was true than when we first deployed to either to Afghanistan in 2001, or Iraq in March 2003.
(d) The Islamic world is much less in thrall (polls tell us that) to bin Laden and his advocacy of suicide bombing and terrorism than it was five years ago; Pakistan in general, the victim of numerous terrorist attacks, is far more willing to take concerted action that aids our cause than at any time in the last eight years. And we have a president who by his own admission resonates abroad in a way not true of the past, and will be given a level of international support not usually accorded to American efforts in the Muslim world.
(e) The president has a domestic opposition — entirely unlike that of George Bush’s — that is eager to support President Obama to fulfill his promise to win Afghanistan by devoting more resources to the effort.
(f) We have a media mesmerized by Obama, that will withhold criticism of him in Afghanistan in a way that was simply not true of the Bush effort in Iraq, that, nonetheless, proved successful.
(g) We have a split public, but one far more amenable to a surge in Afghanistan than was true in late 2006 of the proposed surge in Iraq.
(h) We should be bolstered by our success in Iraq, and the enemy demoralized by its failure; rather than vice versa.
Given the above, and given that George Bush made a far more difficult choice that saved Iraq, it is hard to figure out why Obama can not make a simple decision to send troops requested by commanders on the ground.
How dumb can you get:
Labette Community College President reimbursed with tax dollars for political donation
By Earl Glynn on October 21, 2009
KOAM TV’s report of accounting record of reimbursed political donation
Labette Community College president, George Knox, donated $500 to the campaign of State Treasurer Dennis McKinney according to a report by KOAM TV (Joplin, MO and Pittsburg, KS): Political campaign donation concerns LCC trustee member.
A donation to a political candidate by a private citizen is not unusual, but KOAM TV reported that LCC trustee Mike Howerter questioned the reimbursement claim for the political donation by the college president.
KOAM’s report said Howerter found a check number missing in the claims register and asked for a complete list of paid items. Howerter:
I found this check for $500 that was a refund to Dr. George Knox who donated this money to the political campaign of the state treasurer.
We cannot have public organizations donating taxpayer dollars to fund private campaigns. ..
My contention is I’m the trustee and I need to see every check that they write …
My job is to look out for the interests of the citizens of this county.
KOAM reported a response by the college president’s office that legal counsel was looking into the mater, and corrective action would be taken if necessary.
KOAM’s postscript was troubling. KOAM reported that Knox had taken the job at LCC after resigning from Cloud County Community College in May 2005 before a grand jury looked at his spending there.
In Nov 2005 the Salina Journal reported 218 people signed a petition for a grand jury to look into Knox’s spending.
A June 15, 2006 Salina Journal article said the grand jury had not indicted Knox but criticized his ‘frivolous’ spending:
Former Cloud County Community College president George Knox charged the college for everything from dog grooming and boarding to teaching a course when he rarely was able to attend class.
He charged computer equipment and digital cameras for his personal use. He traveled extensively and amassed a burgeoning personal library of current popular authors.
It was all “frivolous” spending that a grand jury stated Wednesday “offered no true benefit to the college.” But the grand jury also concluded the expenses didn’t merit a criminal indictment for misusing public funds.
The unsigned statement containing the jury’s decision concluded a six-month investigation concerning Knox ’s spending habits
The purchases investigated by the grand jury reported by the Journal:
?An abundance of electronic equipment,
?$6000 worth of books and
?more than $16,000 in travel expenses and meals in one 12-month span for him and his wife, Carol.
?Repeated boarding and grooming of his dog,
?national newspapers delivered directly to his home address, and
?$726 spent in 2004 alone at Jiffy Lube in Salina for car oil changes.
The Concordia Blade-Empire newspaper editor, Brad Lowell, started asking questions in the fall of 2004 about Knox’s trips. Lowell learned much about Knox’s spending through open records request and asked:
“What value are those books and all these electronic devices to the student body or the advancement of the mission of the college?”
In May 2005 a Kansas Press This Week article said Knox takes actions to avoid open records requests:
The Blade-Empire received a letter of apology from Knox, in which he stated it was his policy to destroy all personal notes after every board meeting. Knox wrote that he believes the notes he referred to at the board meeting were personal, not an open record. Attorney Mike Merriam said when Knox stated his remarks would be available by an open records request, it made them a public record.
A Joplin Business Journal profile described Knox:
Regarding civic leadership in the community, Knox enjoys that role in the community but that funding was an issue. “I wish the college had more money to put back into the community. The board reminds me that there is a delicate balance between on campus and off campus activities, and I guess I don’t necessarily have the ability to say no, so I probably do too much but I have a good time doing it.”
Today the Parsons Sun’s took Knox to task: “Wrong is wrong” (requires subscription) .
Mike Howerter and the rest of the LCC Board should continue doing their jobs: The LCC Board should scrutinize all of Knox’s expenditures and watch the people’s money.
The unemployment rate in October rose to 9.8 percent in September from 9.7 percent.
O’BAMA’s policies has eliminated a net total of 7.2 million jobs.
O’BAMA
Worst
President
Ever
For those of you who believe claims from scientists, because, well, they’re scientific…
Primate fossil called only a distant relative
AP
By MALCOLM RITTER, AP Science Writer Malcolm Ritter, Ap Science Writer – Wed Oct 21, 5:09 pm ET
NEW YORK – Remember Ida, the fossil discovery announced last May with its own book and TV documentary? A publicity blitz called it “the link” that would reveal the earliest evolutionary roots of monkeys, apes and humans. Experts protested that Ida wasn’t even a close relative. And now a new analysis supports their reaction.
In fact, Ida is as far removed from the monkey-ape-human ancestry as a primate could be, says Erik Seiffert of Stony Brook University in New York.
He and his colleagues compared 360 specific anatomical features of 117 living and extinct primate species to draw up a family tree. They report the results in Thursday’s issue of the journal Nature.
Ida is a skeleton of a 47 million-year-old cat-sized creature found in Germany. It starred in a book, “The Link: Uncovering Our Earliest Ancestor.”…
Obama’s ratings today?
Obama Peace Prize Glow is Gone, Approval Ratings Dropping Faster Then American Soldiers in Afghanistan
10/22/2009
Presidential Approval Index ~~~~ -13
Strongly Approve ~~~~ 26%
Strongly Disapprove ~~~~ 39%
Total Approve ~~~~ 47%
Total Disapprove ~~~~ 52%
10/21/2009
Presidential Approval Index ~~~~ -13
Strongly Approve ~~~~ 27%
Strongly Disapprove ~~~~ 40%
Total Approve ~~~~ 47%
Total Disapprove ~~~~ 53%
10/20/2009
Presidential Approval Index ~~~~ -12
Strongly Approve ~~~~ 28%
Strongly Disapprove ~~~~ 40%
Total Approve ~~~~ 47%
Total Disapprove ~~~~ 52%
10/19/2009
Presidential Approval Index ~~~~ -10
Strongly Approve ~~~~ 30%
Strongly Disapprove ~~~~ 40%
Total Approve ~~~~ 49%
Total Disapprove ~~~~ 50%
10/18/2009
Presidential Approval Index ~~~~ -10
Strongly Approve ~~~~ 29%
Strongly Disapprove ~~~~ 39%
Total Approve ~~~~ 49%
Total Disapprove ~~~~ 50%
10/17/2009
Presidential Approval Index ~~~~ -10
Strongly Approve ~~~~ 29%
Strongly Disapprove ~~~~ 39%
Total Approve ~~~~ 49%
Total Disapprove ~~~~ 50%
10/16/2009
Presidential Approval Index ~~~~ -11
Strongly Approve ~~~~ 28%
Strongly Disapprove ~~~~ 39%
Total Approve ~~~~ 47%
Total Disapprove ~~~~ 51%
10/15/2009
Presidential Approval Index ~~~~ -8
Strongly Approve ~~~~ 30%
Strongly Disapprove ~~~~ 38%
Total Approve ~~~~ 48%
Total Disapprove ~~~~ 51%
10/14/2009
Presidential Approval Index ~~~~ -7
Strongly Approve ~~~~ 32%
Strongly Disapprove ~~~~ 39%
Total Approve ~~~~ 49%
Total Disapprove ~~~~ 50%
10/13/2009
Presidential Approval Index ~~~~ -7
Strongly Approve ~~~~ 32%
Strongly Disapprove ~~~~ 39%
Total Approve ~~~~ 49%
Total Disapprove ~~~~ 50%
10/12/2009
Presidential Approval Index ~~~~ -8
Strongly Approve ~~~~ 32%
Strongly Disapprove ~~~~ 40%
Total Approve ~~~~ 49%
Total Disapprove ~~~~ 51%
10/11/2009
Presidential Approval Index ~~~~ -6
Strongly Approve ~~~~ 32%
Strongly Disapprove ~~~~ 38%
Total Approve ~~~~ 49%
Total Disapprove ~~~~ 51%
10/10/2009
Presidential Approval Index ~~~~ -3
Strongly Approve ~~~~ 32%
Strongly Disapprove ~~~~ 35%
Total Approve ~~~~ 50%
Total Disapprove ~~~~ 50%
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
I see politico and dondublin are out early hogging the thread. Makes for easy scroll-over. And I’m sure they scroll over me.
Dennis
Chapion of the Left, Al Sharpton:
‘Race attack’ victim: I lied
A troubled young woman whom the Rev. Al Sharpton championed as a victim of a horrific, racially motivated sexual assault now says she fabricated the incident — despite the fact that all of her alleged attackers pleaded guilty and are serving jail time.
Megan Williams, who is black, wasn’t kidnapped and tortured in a West Virginia trailer at the hands of white attackers — but lied because she wanted to get back at a boyfriend who’d beaten her, her lawyer, Byron Potts, said.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/race_attack_victim_lied_o4Fa3YxxfmGo3P3nHo9AQO
Sharpton — who now wants a new investigation — already has a record tarnished by his drum-beating for Tawana Brawley’s discredited 1987 claim that she was gang-raped by white cops. Authorities believe Brawley made up the story to avoid punishment for staying out late.
or Champion..
Oh poor outie, busy praying up a storm now that the “missing link” stays missing, because that would mean that his creation myth (out of the thousands of similar creation myths, the only absolutely perfectly god’s honest true one) can’t be taken literally. Don’t worry outie, they’ll find it and you’ll deny it, just like always.
Yellowbellie, Here’s something short that won’t be too complicated for you to conprehend.
Obama is constipated sitting on the pot. Our troops are sitting as targets for the Talaban.
Shceit or get off the pot.
Where’s the beef?
The core of the global warming theory proposed by the IPCC is that man-made carbon dioxide (and to a lesser extent other gases) leads to warming of the atmosphere, via a so-called “radiative forcing” effect. So you might think that justifying and quantifying this effect would occupy a major part of the AR4 WG1 report. But it is very difficult to find any details on this in AR4.
The SPM describes at some length the increase in carbon dioxide and other gases, but only briefly states that the net effect of all the man-made influences is a radiative forcing (RF) of 1.6 Watts/m^2. (Recall that this number is wrong, about 0.3 too large, because of a simple arithmetic error that the IPCC does not acknowledge)
http://globalwarmingquestions.googlepages.com/ar4beef
donndublin does not understand references to chapters.
Definitely a subject we’ve discussed before. Good to see something being done about the problem!
Mental health efforts should help jail
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One puzzle piece for helping reduce the population at the Sedgwick County Jail is finally in place. The city of Wichita began operating the state’s first mental health court this month — though it will take a while before it has a significant impact.
As mental health facilities have shut down throughout the state, more people with mental illnesses have ended up in local jails.
A 2005 study of the Sedgwick County Jail found that 1,280 individuals with mental illnesses were booked into the jail during the year. And 33 percent of those individuals were booked more than once.
The majority of those arrests were for nonviolent misdemeanor crimes, such as trespassing, disorderly conduct, public nuisance and failure to appear in court — violations that often were related to mental illnesses.
Once arrested, these individuals tend to stay in jail longer than other inmates, as they are less likely to make bail, less likely to mount an adequate defense, and more likely to violate terms of a conditional release.
Because of their medication needs, inmates with mental illnesses also can be expensive to house — costing as much as $600 a day.
Wichita’s mental health court meets four times a month and seeks to keep some of these individuals out of jail by connecting them with mental health resources. The court is being directed by Wichita Municipal Court Judge Bryce Abbott and works with the Sedgwick County Offender Assessment Program, an existing effort to divert mentally ill people from the jail, and Comcare, the county’s community mental health service.
“We think we have a better way of dealing with people who have these problems,” Abbott told The Eagle editorial board.
Once the court ramps up, it expects to serve about 100 individuals at any given time. Given how often these individuals tend to cycle through the criminal justice system, that could be a significant help in reducing the jail population.
Another valuable effort to help keep mentally ill people out of jail involves training law enforcement officers and dispatchers to recognize and know the best ways to respond to people with mental illnesses. A crisis intervention team, which formed two years ago in Wichita, is seeking to provide intervention training to 20 percent of front-line officers in the county.
One challenge of helping some individuals with mental illnesses is getting them to utilize available services and take their medications, which sometimes have negative side effects. The mental health court requires them to adhere to a treatment plan— though that’s still no guarantee that they will do so.
“It can be a challenging population to work with,” Abbott said.
Though not all efforts will be successful, it’s better for the mentally ill and for taxpayers to pursue treatment rather than repeated incarceration.
CosMao does not understand arithmatic or “arithmetic errors”.
“Last week, 72 Democratic members of Congress wrote the FCC in opposition to the net-neutrality proposals. Many of them, staffers said, had been encouraged to write by AT&T. And 52 of them received a total of $180,000 in campaign contributions from AT&T this year, according to the Center”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/21/AR2009102103944.html?hpid=sec-tech
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If we call bribery “campaign contributions”, that makes it alright.
donn,
I like the “CosMao name” – think I’ll steal it for my own use.
Head of embattled Justice Dept. unit is stepping down
Anti-corruption division under fire for handling of Sen. Stevens’s case.
William M. Welch II, the head of the Justice Department’s public integrity unit, will step aside and return to Massachusetts, where he spent the bulk of his career exposing corruption in the state government, according to two sources familiar with the move.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/21/AR2009102101899.html?hpid=sec-nation
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Jim Johnson must be asleep at the switch to have missed this.
Regular
Posted October 22, 2009 at 11:56 am | Permalink
donn,
I like the “CosMao name” – think I’ll steal it for my own use.
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Reg, Be my guest.
mh writes:
“Most of the time CONs tend to echo the inflammatory rhetoric they worship via AM radio every weekday.”
which is exactly the type of false generalization I was calling attention to. MH ignores that I and many others have repeatedly said that rush is an extremist and does not speak for us. but, it is easier for mh to make false generalizations than deal with reality.
so, i can do the same. I don’t see anyone repudiating bj’s ridiculous comment about not obeying laws he doesn’t like. So, based on mh’s “logic example” I can therefore postulate that ALL libs are equal lawbreakers.
don’t like it coming back at you, do you mh? then quit with the ridiculous, unsupported and untrue generalizations. simple.
Reg, Did you check out my last post on yesterday’s open thread?
The U.S. is way ahead of China in emission reduction and will be for the foreseeable future but CosMao want’s to regulate and tax the U.S. back to the stone age.
China lags decades behind the U.S. in inovation and will take the rest of this century to catch up at the current rate.
Now the CONs are lining up to use new name-calling tactics.
“CosMao?”
“Yellowbellie?”
“MonkeyHock?
When you’re a WE Blog CON and that’s all you’ve got, that’s the viable commodity, I guess.
Monkeyhawk
Posted October 22, 2009 at 12:59 pm | Permalink
Now the CONs are lining up to use new name-calling tactics.
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So what’s new? Name-calling is rife on weblog.
From both sides.
Does anybody really come here thinking they’ll convince someone?
What’s a matter Monkeyhock? Are you jealous of being outwitted in “new name-calling tactics”?
Or affraid of losing your throne?
donnublin,
Don’t worry about the fact that you cannot understand that a summary is a summary — you’re an AGW science denier, so it’s normal for you to be dumb.
“donndublin” –
I never refer to fellow WE Bloggers by anything but their posted nyms.
As a former 8th Grader, I’m perfectly able to snort out stuff like “Irregularity,” or “Hire Lesbian Prostitutes,” “Nath-Spaniel,” or “done-dribblin’.”
If I ever resort to calling other WE Blogger names, that’ll be your clue I’ve got nothing of substance to discuss in this forum. Just as with the CONs who post here.
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XXX
Posted October 22, 2009 at 11:58 am | Permalink
Jim Johnson must be asleep at the switch to have missed this.
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The prosecutorial misconduct rampant during Sen. Steven’s case occurred under the Bush Department of Justice so JimJohnson most likely would have nothing to say about it.
Selective outrage is selective.
cosmos_originally
Posted October 22, 2009 at 1:19 pm | Permalink
donnublin,
Don’t worry about the fact that you cannot understand that a summary is a summary — you’re an AGW science denier, so it’s normal for you to be dumb.
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CosMao understands the propaganda language but lacks the understanding of the dynamics and conceptual applications of climate science.
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donndublin
Posted October 22, 2009 at 1:15 pm | Permalink
What’s a matter Monkeyhock? Are you jealous of being outwitted in “new name-calling tactics”?
Or affraid of losing your throne?
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While I’m certain that you are a reasonably intelligent person, you consistently display the maturity level and general disposition of the average 4th grader.
Daniel, I was communicating to MH in only way he comprehends.
Look up the definition of ‘consistently.’
Daniel
Posted October 22, 2009 at 1:48 pm | Permalink
Look up the definition of ‘consistently.’
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MH defines it very well.
Poor old donndublin cannot understand that a summary is a summary.
Does anybody really come here thinking they’ll convince someone?-XXX
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Nah
If I tried, Cosmos would just tell me that I don’t “understand”.
Monkeyhawk
Posted October 22, 2009 at 1:04 pm | Permalink
“Regular” channels his inner 3rd Grader –
“…a minor story that has doodoo to do about squat.”
What a bunch of poopy scat.
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Daniel,
It’s the only part that MH could understand. He is consistant. Isn’t he?
Just like he did to Donn.
Poor old CosMao is stuck on repeating propaganda words.
ANTI
Posted October 22, 2009 at 2:03 pm | Permalink
Just like he did to Donn.
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Yeah that’s right. I don’t understand how someone can be so naive to believe that man can drasticly alter the dynamics of the climate.
There IS a happy ending. We WILL act to mitigate human caused global warming. Those who oppose this are enemies of the Earth and must be treated as such.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dOfBEm5DZU
donndublin,
Are you blaming me for your post that complained that a summary only contained a summary?
Looks like BlueJay is all for increasing the gap between the rich and the poor.
Cause that’s what AGW legislation will do.
Since I don’t agree with AGW legislation I will ignore it
BJ resorts to pre-school scar tatics and threats since he doesn’t understand the science.
What if you didnt agree with traffic lights??
Just sayin….
“Since I don’t agree with AGW legislation I will ignore it”
I don’t think that will be an option. Sometimes we have to act in the better interest whether people are capable of understanding the need or not.
Daniel
Posted October 22, 2009 at 1:31 pm | Permalink
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XXX
Posted October 22, 2009 at 11:58 am | Permalink
Jim Johnson must be asleep at the switch to have missed this.
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The prosecutorial misconduct rampant during Sen. Steven’s case occurred under the Bush Department of Justice so JimJohnson most likely would have nothing to say about it.
Selective outrage is selective.
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Daniel, of course you’re right.
But Bush started 2 wars and now they’re Obama’s wars (according to JJ).
Bush melted down the economy but now it’s all Obama’s fault.
Obama isn’t showing too well, but he’s head and shoulders above what we had.
Freebird1971 posted October 22, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Since I don’t agree with AGW legislation I will ignore it
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Have fun trying to ignore reality. . .
cosmos_originally
Posted October 22, 2009 at 2:11 pm | Permalink
donndublin,
Are you blaming me for your post that complained that a summary only contained a summary?
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A summary that only contained a summary of a summary becomes increasingly vague.
donndublin,
Are you blaming me for your inability to use a summary to find the more detailed information in the main chapters, and in the referenced, published scientific papers?
Hey cosmos, it’s probably ALSO your fault that donnie is short and has trouble making friends.
BJ, Do you really think I would leave my friends and other info on my old Myspace page after you outed me?
XXX
Posted October 22, 2009 at 2:26 pm | Permalink
Daniel
Posted October 22, 2009 at 1:31 pm | Permalink
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XXX
Posted October 22, 2009 at 11:58 am | Permalink
Jim Johnson must be asleep at the switch to have missed this.
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The prosecutorial misconduct rampant during Sen. Steven’s case occurred under the Bush Department of Justice so JimJohnson most likely would have nothing to say about it.
Selective outrage is selective.
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Daniel, of course you’re right.
But Bush started 2 wars and now they’re Obama’s wars (according to JJ).
Bush melted down the economy but now it’s all Obama’s fault.
Obama isn’t showing too well, but he’s head and shoulders above what we had.
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As for Stevens, justice was served on him.
As for anyone else in Government of either party who has committed a crime, I’m all for justice being served.
As for your linked article XXX, anyone tried and convicted yet of any wrong doing? Maybe I missed it. If they did commit any crimes, then throw em in jail.
Done with your strawman building yet?
Oh, and as for Obama su cking less then Bush, if that’s the best you can say about Obama, God help us all.
New Unemployment Claims Rise More Than Expected to 531,000
The Labor Department said new jobless claims rose to a seasonally adjusted 531,000 last week, from an upwardly revised 520,000 the previous week. Wall Street economists had expected only a slight increase, according to Thomson Reuters.
AP
Thursday, October 22, 2009
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/22/new-unemployment-claims-rise-expected/?test=latestnews
Obama Will Release Jabberwocky Comments Close to This:
Jobs Lost Was Not Less Worse Than Expected, So That’s Less Good News About Job Growth
BlueJay
Posted October 22, 2009 at 2:25 pm | Permalink
“Since I don’t agree with AGW legislation I will ignore it”
I don’t think that will be an option. Sometimes we have to act in the better interest whether people are capable of understanding the need or not.
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Freebird, I don’t think BJ understood your sarcastic jab, but I liked it.
(Pssst….BJ…..breaking a fireworks law is ok, but breaking a global warming law is not, right?)
JJ to be fair, Chas is as clueless as the Jaybird.
BTW, the use of fireworks causes environmental damage, pollution, and contributes to global warming, in addition to causing personal injuries.
ANTI
Posted October 22, 2009 at 3:23 pm | Permalink
JJ to be fair, Chas is as clueless as the Jaybird.
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I agree.
Obama Jabberwocky, Return to Economic Growth with High Unemployment:
WASHINGTON (Market Watch) — The number of jobless Americans is likely to remain “severely elevated” despite a predicted return to economic growth in the third quarter of the year, a top White House economic adviser told Congress on Thursday.
Reasons for the H1N1 Vaccine Delay
Thursday, October 22, 2009
Health officials are blaming the slow production of swine flu vaccine in part on an antiquated process that relies on millions of chicken eggs.
The federal government originally promised 120 million doses of swine flu vaccine by now. Only 13 million have come through.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,569070,00.html?test=latestnews
Obama’s Government Lies Again!
Can’t wait until all we have is Government Health Care!
Clearly, Obama wants Americans to die of H1N1, the rest can die while on .Gov Forced Health Care after all their money is absorbed by the tax sponge.
Soulless bastid.
Obama Lie Tracker
No. 517: Negotiate health care reform in public sessions televised on C-SPAN
To achieve health care reform, “I’m going to have all the negotiations around a big table. We’ll have doctors and nurses and hospital administrators. Insurance companies, drug companies — they’ll get a seat at the table, they just won’t be able to buy every chair. But what we will do is, we’ll have the negotiations televised on C-SPAN, so that people can see who is making arguments on behalf of their constituents, and who are making arguments on behalf of the drug companies or the insurance companies. And so, that approach, I think is what is going to allow people to stay involved in this process.”
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/rulings/promise-broken/
Obama Lie Tracker
No. 234: Allow five days of public comment before signing bills
To reduce bills rushed through Congress and to the president before the public has the opportunity to review them, Obama “will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days.”
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/rulings/promise-broken/
Looks like Obama is getting one more nut job to surround himself with, Craig Becker.
Americans should take a close look at the ‘advisers’ Obama has chosen, and ask themselves, “What is this man up too?”.
“Americans should take a close look at the ‘advisers’ Obama has chosen, and ask themselves, “What is this man up too?”.”–ANTE
Here is who he is surrounding himself with….crazies.
OBAMA’S “CZARS
CZAR
Czar Position
Summary
Richard Holbrooke
Afghanistan Czar
Ultra liberal anti gun former Gov. of New Mexico. Pro Abortion and legal drug use.
Ed Montgomery
Auto recovery Czar
Black radical anti business activist. Affirmative Action and Job Preference for blacks. Univ of Maryland Business School Dean teaches US business has caused world poverty. ACORN board member. Communist DuBois Club member.
Jeffrey Crowley
AIDS Czar
Homosexual. A Gay Rights activist. Believes in Gay Marriage and Special Status, including free health care for gays.
Alan Bersin
Border Czar
former failed superintendent of San Diego . Ultra Liberal friend of Hilary Clinton. Served as Border Czar under Janet Reno – to keep borders open to illegal’s
David J. Hayes
California Water Czar
Sr. Fellow of radical environmentalist group, “Progress Policy”. No training or experience in water management.
Ron Bloom
Car Czar
Auto Union worker. Anti business & anti nuclear. Has worked hard to force US auto makers out of business. Sits on the Board of Chrysler which is now Auto Union owned. How did this happen?
Dennis Ross
Central Region Czar
Believes US policy has caused Mid East wars. Obama apologist to the world. Anti gun and pro abortion.
Lynn Rosenthal
Domestic Violence Czar
Director of the National Network to End Domestic Violence. Vicious anti male feminist. Supported male castration.
Gil Kerlikowske
Drug Czar
devoted lobbyist for every restrictive gun law proposal, Former Chief of Police in Liberal Seattle. Believes no American should own a firearm. Supports legalization of drugs
Carol Brower
Energy and Environment Czar
Political Radical Former head of EPA – known for anti-business activism. Strong anti-gun ownership. SOCIALIST on Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for “global governance” and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address climate change.
Joshua DuBois
Faith Based Czar
Political Black activist-Degree in Black Nationalism—seek a separate black nation.. Anti gun ownership lobbyist.
Cameron Davis
Great Lakes Czar
Chicago radical anti business environmentalist. Blames George Bush for “Poisoning the water that minorities have to drink.” No experience or training in w ater management. Former ACORN Board member
Van Jones
Green Jobs Czar
(since resigned). Black activist Member of American communist Party and San Francisco Communist Party who said Geo Bush caused the 911 attack and wanted Bush investigated by the World Court for war crimes. MARXIST, said whites are poisoning blacks, said transformation from “suicidal gray capitalism to econ-capitalism to the complete redistribution of wealth.” Black activist with strong anti-white views.
Daniel Fried
Guantanamo Closure Czar
Rights activist for Foreign Terrorists. Believes America has caused the war on terrorism.
Nancy-Ann DeParle.
Health Czar
Former head of Medicare / Medicaid. Strong Health Care Rationing proponent. She is married to a reporter for The New York Times.
Vivek Kundra
Information Czar
born in New Delhi, India. Controls all public information, including labels and news releases. Monitors all private Internet emails.
Todd Stern
International Climate Czar
Anti business former White House chief of Staff- Strong supportrer of the Kyoto Accord. Pushing hard for Cap and Trade. Blames US business for Global warming.
Dennis Blair
Intelligence Czar
Ret Navy. Stopped US guided missile program as “provocative”. Chair of ultra liberal “Council on Foreign Relations” which blames American organizations for regional wars.
George Mitchell
Mideast Peace Czar
Fmr. Sen from Maine Left wing radical. Has said Israel should be split up into “2 or 3 “ smaller more manageable plots”. Anti-nuclear anti-gun & pro homosexual
Kenneth Feinberg
Pay Czar
Chief of Staff to TED KENNEDY. Lawyer who got rich off the 911 victims payoffs.
Cass Sunstein
Regulatory Czar
Liberal activist judge believes free speech needs to be limited for the “common good”. Rules against personal freedoms many times –like private gun ownership. Says animals should be able to sue people. Anti-hunting..
John Holdren
Science Czar
Fierce ideological environmentalist, Sierra Club, Anti business activist. Claims US business has caused world poverty. No Science training. OK to abort a child until the age of two. Thinks TREES should be able to sue humans.
Earl Devaney
Stimulus Accountability Czar
spent career trying to take guns away from American citizens. Believes in Open Borders to Mexico . Author of statement blaming US gun stores for drug war in Mexico .
J. Scott Gration
Sudan Czar
Native of Democratic Republic of Congo. Believes US does little to help Third World countries. Council of foreign relations, asking for higher US taxes to support United Nations
Herb Allison
TARP Czar
Fannie May CEO responsible for the US recession by using real estate mortgages to back up the US stock market. Caused millions of people to lose their life savings.
John Brennan
Terrorism Czar
Anti CIA activist. No training in diplomatic or gov. affairs. Believes Open Borders to Mexico and a dialog with terrorists and has suggested Obama disband US military
Aneesh Chopra
Technology Czar
No Technology training. Worked for the Advisory Board Company, a health care think tank for hospitals. Anti doctor activist. Supports Obama Health care Rationing and salaried doctors working exclusively for the Gov. health care plan
Adolfo Carrion Jr.
Urban Affairs Czar
Puerto Rican. Anti American activist and leftist group member in Latin America . Millionaire “slum lord” of the Bronx , NY. Owns many lavish homes and condos which he got from “sweetheart” deals with labor unions. Wants higher taxes to pay for minority housing and health care
Ashton Carter
Weapons Czar
Leftist. Wants all private weapons in US destroyed. Supports UN ban on firearms ownership in America .. No Other “policy”
Gary Samore
WMD Policy Czar
Former US Communist. Wants US to destroy all WMD unilaterally as a show of good faith. Has no other “policy”.
AND. . .. . .
Kevin Jennings . . . . . . . Obama’s SAFE SCHOOL CZAR
As a teacher when a 15 year old said he was having sex with an older man, instead of turning in the man—
the law for a teacher, he asked how it was going and suggested they use condoms.
Held a conference with the MAXIMUM age of 18 to teach homosexual issues like “fisting.”
Wrote the intro to the book, “Queering Elementary Education.” Has repeatedly praised and claims to be
inspired by Harry Hay, early supporter of NAMBLA, (North American Man Boy Love Association).
“ARE OUR SCHOOLS IN SAFE HANDS”????
A Gun Registration Plan That Will Work
Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack has read the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, as well as Vermont’s own Constitution very carefully, and his strict interpretation of these documents is popping some eyeballs in New England and elsewhere.
Maslack recently proposed a bill to register “non-gun-owners” and require them to pay a $500 fee to the state. Thus Vermont would become the first state to require a permit for the luxury of going about unarmed and assess a fee of $500 for the privilege of not owning a gun.
Maslack read the “militia” phrase of the Second Amendment as not only affirming the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as a clear mandate to do so. He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a “monopoly of force” by the government as well as criminals.
Vermont’s constitution states explicitly that “the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State” and those persons who are “conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms” shall be required to “pay such equivalent.” Clearly, says Maslack, Vermonters have a constitutional obligation to arm themselves, so that they are capable of responding to “any situation that may arise.”
Under the bill, adults who choose not to own a firearm would be required to register their name, address, Social Security Number, and driver’s license number with the state. “There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do so,” Maslack says
Vermont already boasts a high rate of gun ownership along with the least restrictive laws of any state. It’s currently the only state that allows a citizen to carry a concealed firearm without a permit. This combination of plenty of guns and few laws regulating them has resulted in a crime rate that is the third lowest in the nation.
I’m a con and I read Rush everyday. At least he does not tell lies like the One.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_102209/content/01125104.guest.html
AMERICA IS ME – Anthem for “We the People” by Mack Hayes – Tea Party salute.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXAcHtdU3nY
Hey cosmos,
I thought you’d love seeing this:
Poll: US belief in global warming is cooling
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/poll-us-belief-in-169483.html
WASHINGTON — Americans seem to be cooling toward global warming.
Just 57 percent think there is solid evidence the world is getting warmer, down 20 points in just three years, a new poll says. And the share of people who believe pollution caused by humans is causing temperatures to rise has also taken a dip, even as the U.S. and world forums gear up for possible action against climate change.
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Jed
Posted October 22, 2009 at 10:39 am | Permalink
Oh poor outie, busy praying up a storm now that the “missing link” stays missing, because that would mean that his creation myth (out of the thousands of similar creation myths, the only absolutely perfectly god’s honest true one) can’t be taken literally. Don’t worry outie, they’ll find it and you’ll deny it, just like always.
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Jedi: Hmm… Jedi. If one is a Jedi, one needs a Jedi name.
I christen thee: Ibee-1-oldude. Rise, sage Jedi (if you can)
Jed, I’m not wasting time praying that a “missing link” won’t be found, because it doesn’t exist.
“george” admits –
“I’m a con and I read Rush everyday….”
I’m stunned.
“outlander” blithers –
“I christen thee: Ibee-1-oldude. Rise, sage Jedi (if you can)”
WE Blog CONs have been reduced to gibberish.
Yet again.
“Here is who he is surrounding himself with….crazies.”
As noted on the Cheney thread, the “list” of Obama “Czars” is complete fiction – it is all over the right-wing websites, verbatim.
“The Google” is your friend.
Monkey: You are upset that you are not as worthy as Ibee 1 Oldude. I understand.
Perhaps if you would consult the force and mend your ways. You should know that arrogance disqualifies one from Jedi knighthood.
“Though there are exceptions, the vast majority of scientists agree that global warming is occurring and that the primary cause is a buildup of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere from the burning of fossil fuels, such as oil and coal.
Jane Lubchenco, head the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, told a business group meeting at the White House Thursday: “The science is pretty clear that the climate challenge before us is very real. We’re already seeing impacts of climate change in our own backyards.”
Oh Jane. I’ve seen none. And it’s pretty darn chilly in my backyard.
Maybe NOAA folks have special backyards.
‘Changing Arctic Affecting Air, Ocean, and Everything in Between ‘
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20091022_arcticreportcard.html
‘New Survey Finds US and 37 Other Countries Demand More Aggressive Climate Change Action than Congress or Copenhagen Envision ‘
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS223047+22-Oct-2009+PRN20091022
Climate kooks would ban pets:
They’re faithful, friendly and furry — but under their harmless, fluffy exteriors, dogs and cats, the world’s most popular house pets, use up more energy resources in a year than driving a car, a new book says.
In their book “Time to Eat the Dog: The Real Guide to Sustainable Living”, New Zealand-based architects Robert and Brenda Vale say keeping a medium-sized dog has the same ecological impact as driving 10,000 km (6,213 miles) a year in a 4.6 liter Land Cruiser.
Calculating that the modern Fido chows through about 164 kg of meat and 95 kg of cereals a year, the Vales estimated the ecological footprint of cats and dogs, based on the amount of land needed to grow common brands of pet food.
From Cosmos’s link. Note Cosmos, it isn’t a poll. It’s a survey, distributed by wackos to wackos to get wackos’ opinions.
BOSTON, Oct. 22 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — The first-ever deliberative global
survey of citizen opinion, World Wide Views on Global Warming (WWViews) has
found that people from diverse backgrounds in the US and worldwide
overwhelmingly want faster action, deeper GHG emissions cuts and stronger
enforcement than either US climate legislation proposals or Copenhagen treaty
conference preparations are currently contemplating. Among the survey’s
findings:
— 90% of U. S. participants say it is urgent to reach a tough, new
agreement at the UN Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen in
December
and not punt to subsequent meetings;
— 89% said by 2020 emissions should be cut 25-40% below 1990 levels (the
Kerry Boxer Senate bill would cut US emissions 20% below 2005 levels);
— 71% want nations that fail to meet their obligations under a new
agreement to be penalized severely or significantly;
— 69% believe the price of fossil fuels should be increased.
….WWViews gathered its data from daylong citizen deliberations in Atlanta,
Boston, Denver, Los Angeles, and Phoenix, as well as in cities throughout
Africa, Asia, Australia, Europe and Latin America.
Cosmos would kill all dogs, including these two:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlK-YlXSzwo
Bud light.
Cosmos why do you hate peoples pets?
The new Statistical Reporting of Abortions Act will compel the Oklahoma Department of Health to publish data online on all abortion victims – not the name of the mother contracting the mangling, dismembering, poisoning, or beheading of her baby, but statistical data to include her race, marital status, financial circumstances, years of education, number of previous pregnancies, and her reason for seeking the killing. Abortionist quacks who fail to provide such information will be criminally penalized and stripped of their medical licenses.
Sex-selection abortions are also banned.
The new law is presently delayed by a restraining order issued by an Oklahoma district judge.
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A web page run by Bilious Sebelius in HHS urges visitors to send an email to Obamanation praising him for his pro-abortion health care plan, although he made a blatantly false promise to the faces of Congress and the American people that his “plan” would allow no funding of abortions whatsoever. Senator Grassley sent a letter to pro-abortion Bilious Sebelius on Tuesday that said the web site may be violating rules against the federal government promoting legislative policy, a misuse of federal funds for leftist propaganda.
Meanwhile, House Democrats say they have nearly enough votes to mandate taxpayer funding of unrestricted abortions, in spite of threatening objections from pro-life Democrats.
Meanwhile, Bilious Sebelius announced plans Wednesday to establish the nation’s first national resource center to assist communities across the country in their efforts to provide services and supports for older sodomites. (Odd, because a sodomite lifestyle cuts 8 to 20 years off a normal lifespan – there aren’t that many older sodomites.)
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The pro-abortion ACLU is attacking a new Illinois parental notification law for underage mothers contracting the mangling, dismembering, poisoning, or beheading of their babies. Underage mothers have been flocking to Illinois for abortions from other states that have enacted such parental notification laws. Usually, these girls are victims of ongoing rape or statutory rape, and Missouri has made it a felony crime, though unenforced, to transport an underage mother across the Missouri border for abortion. The notorious Hope Clinic abortion mill in Granite City would probably shut down for lack of business if Illinois’ parental notification law is enforced. This abortion mill has had several lawsuits filed against them over botched abortions — the latest involving a girl who was rendered sterile after the abortionist quack left parts of the dismembered baby inside her womb. This abortion mill is also known to have parents arrested if they find out about their daughter’s scheduled abortion and attempt to stop the killing of their grandchild.
Yogendra Shah is the George Tiller of Hope Clinic, the most notorious late-term abortionist quack of Illinois, who once clogged the municipal sewer system with the arms, legs, rib cages, and heads of late-term aborted babies.
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Jacksonville, FL police found a newborn baby girl in a garbage can outside a church Tuesday, after a 911 call about the abandonment from “Mr. Smith.” The infant is in good condition after hospital treatment.
Police have released a photo of “Mr. Smith” in their criminal investigation of the abandonment.
test le$bian
heterosexual test
According to our government – it’s a matter of “fairness” and “equal pay” to extend employee benefits (such as healthcare) to g$y and le$bian
couples.
BUT – it’s too costly to extend the same “fairness” and “equal pay” to heterosexual couples…….
Absolutely nuts!!!!!!
Senators and witnesses at a hearing on Thursday said that extending employee benefits to the partners of gay and le$bian federal employees was a matter of equal pay that could be addressed affordably.
Because much of employee compensation comes in the form of benefits like health insurance, being unable to extend those to their domestic partners means that gay and le$bian federal employees are “essentially
paid less than everyone else is,” said Sen. Joseph Lieberman, I-Conn., the chief sponsor of the Domestic Partnership Benefits and Obligations
Act during the hearing. Lieberman, who is the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, said he planned to
bring legislation to the Senate floor by the end of the year.
But Berry also cited a desire to keep down expenses as a reason not to extend the legislation to cover unmarried heterosexual couples who live in committed relationships, which Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, had asked him about.
“The cost of opening it [to heterosexual couples]…does have a significant financial impact,” Berry said. “At this point, the administration feels that impact is of such a size and magnitude we just
can’t afford to take this step at this time.”
(we cannot afford to be “fair” to heteros)
http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=43807&sid=2
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American_Way
Posted October 22, 2009 at 6:33 pm | Permalink
heterosexual test
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You fail.
:-)
American_Way,
Why do you post lies about me?
Is it because American_Way has ingested too much trans fat?
American_Way,
Heterosexual couples have the legal right to marry and thus become eligible for federal spousal benefits. DOMA prohibits federal spousal benefits for homosexual couples even if their marriage is recognized by the state in which they live.
Are latest victims of socialized medicine.
Coming to an America near you@!
October 22, 2009
NHS watchdog refuses to sanction life-extending cancer drug
A drug that can extend the life of women with advanced breast cancer has
been turned down for use in the NHS by the cost-effectiveness watchdog.
The National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE) said it
plans to block use of Tykerb (lapatinib) in the Health Service after a
second review. The decision comes despite rule changes brought in to let
people at the end of their lives have the chance of new and often
expensive treatments.
It also puts Britain at loggerheads with much of Europe where the drug
is given, in combination with a standard chemotherapy drug called
capecitabine.
GlaxoSmithKline, Tykerb’s manufacturer, said the latest appraisal would
result in 2,000 British women a year being denied access to the
treatment. As well as extending life by weeks or months, it has the
additional advantage of being taken in pill form.Campaigners have
questioned the decision to refuse it. They said the drug met all three
conditions: it is used for patients with less than two years’ life
expectancy, offers at least three extra months’ life and is licensed for
a small number of patients.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article6884927.ec
The value of one human life in pounds and dollars:
Live rates at 2009.10.22 16:00:58 UTC
30,000.00 GBP = 49,777.63 USD
United Kingdom Pounds United States Dollars
1 GBP = 1.65925 USD 1 USD = 0.602680 GBP
Its complicated quality assessment valued the drug at £59,000 per life year – higher than the £30,000 threshold it normally applies, although no specific limit has been stipulated since the rules for end-of-life drugs changed.Nice concluded that the drug “is not recommended for the routine treatment” of women with advanced breast cancer once Herceptin has failed, although they can be given it in clinical trials. The appraisal is now open to consultation
“Heterosexual couples have the legal right to marry ”
They also have the legal right to NOT marry and live together as domestic partners.
They deserve the same rights as anyone else living together.
“Is it because American_Way has ingested too much trans fat?”
Cosmos, as a dog owner, I probably should not dignify your position on getting rid of dogs to save the environment.
You are a cold heartless person.
Why do you hate my pets?
outlander,
It said it was a “survey” in the 2nd word of the headline.
‘New Survey Finds US and 37 Other Countries Demand More Aggressive Climate Change Action than Congress or Copenhagen Envision‘
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS223047+22-Oct-2009+PRN20091022
American_Way post lies about me, because he has ingested too much trans fat, and now has poor blood circulation to his tiny brain.
We’re already seeing impacts of climate change in our own backyards.”
It’s 39 F in my backyard right now CosMao.
Daniel posted October 22, 2009 at 6:37 pm
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American_Way
Posted October 22, 2009 at 6:33 pm | Permalink
heterosexual test
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You fail.
:-)
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Another side effect of American_Way’s ingesting too much trans fat.
“Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack has read the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, as well as Vermont’s own Constitution very carefully, and his strict interpretation of these documents is popping some eyeballs in New England and elsewhere.”
What’s the surprise? That he’s a nut?
“Just 57 percent think there is solid evidence the world is getting warmer, ”
SOLID majority. We got the kids too. The American standard of living is at odds with what the planet can provide. This must change. And it will.
““There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do so,”
Is there a list for those who absolutely refuse to defend the state? Even if ORDERED to do so? I want on that one.
“We’re not actually saying it is time to eat the dog. We’re just saying that we need to think about and know the (ecological) impact of some of the things we do and that we take for granted,” Robert Vale, co-author of “Time to Eat the Dog: The Real Guide to Sustainable Living”
Getting rid of pets? No, that is a distortion.
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Posted October 22, 2009 at 6:49 pm | Permalink
American_Way post lies about me, because he has ingested too much trans fat, and now has poor blood circulation to his tiny brain.
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I’ll bet that’s not the only body part suffering from a lack of proper blood flow.
Poor, poor Mrs. American_Way.
The democrats loath religion because it runs contrary to total state control. The religion of the state is their goal.
Here, the government tithes 10% of our bounty:
Donation = free
Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told
CNSNews.com Wednesday that one in 10 doses of the swine-flu vaccine
purchased by the U.S. will be donated to other nations before U.S.
demand is filled.
Sebelius also told a Senate committee that vaccine production is well
behind demand.
“What we said is once we have 40 million doses (of the vaccine), the
donation can start,” Sebelius told CNSNews.com. “There’s an agreement
(of) 10 percent donation that 11 nations have made,” she said.
HHS has ordered about 250 million doses of the vaccine, so the donation
would begin after the U.S. received just 16 percent of its original order.
10% of Americans will go without an H1N1 shot. By State decree – 10% of us is an acceptable number to die.
American_Way
Posted October 22, 2009 at 7:14 pm | Permalink
Sebelius also told a Senate committee that vaccine production is well behind demand.
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I wonder what is slowing down production of the vaccine?
I wonder what is slowing down production of the vaccine?
The great swine vortex anomaly.
“I wonder what is slowing down production of the vaccine?”
I heard a rumor the company which manufactures the vaccine are anxiously awaiting a visit by THE ONE. It is told in legend that when Obama arrives, he will make everything all better using his super human strength.
CNN Poll: 3 out of 4 want illegal immigration decreased
Posted: October 22nd, 2009 08:23 AM ET
WASHINGTON (CNN) – A new national poll indicates that nearly three-quarters of all Americans would like to see a decrease in the number of illegal immigrants in the country.
Seventy-three percent of those questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research
Corporation survey released Thursday morning called for a drop in the
number of illegal immigrants, with 22 percent saying the number should
remain the same and just 3 percent stating that there should be an
increase in the number of illegal immigrants. That 73 percent figure is
the highest number since CNN started asking this question four years
ago.
According to the poll, 37 percent want to see all illegal immigrants
deported, also the highest number since the questions was first asked in
2006, and another 23 percent say that the number of illegal immigrants
in the country should be decreased significantly.
CNN
“The democrats loath religion because it runs contrary to total state control. The religion of the state is their goal.” [AmWay]
Now THAT is just a flat out LIE… Check this out:
http://www.pcusa.org
http://www.disciples.org
Stupid people.. NOBODY(in my circle of colleagues) wants to see an increase in ILLEGAL immigrants…
My hunch is that those 73% want to see more ways for people to come here LEGALLY….
Send the ILLEGALS HOME!!
“The American standard of living is at odds with what the planet can provide.”–BlueJay
Ha ha, do you consider your standard of living at odds with what the planet can provide BlueJay?
Lets hear it.
Mine? No. I am environmentally conscious. Many Americans are not. This does not mean they have to live less well. But they will have to learn to live in new ways and abandon old assumptions.
Hey all you Dims and Obama worshipers, take a look at this. The ‘Oath Keeper’s’ is growing by the 10s of thousands in short order. They can hardly respond to all the emails of interested law enforcement personal and citizens of patriotic dedication.
Seems there is a good ol American resistance against this administration’s and the DimLib’s socialist ways and intrusion on our freedoms.
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/
OATH KEEPERS: ORDERS WE WILL NOT OBEY
Click here to read full length version.
1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.
2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people
3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal.
4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state.
5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.
6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.
7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.
8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control.”
9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.
10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.
Well BlueJay I don’t consider my standard of living at odds with what the planet can provide either. And who are you, or anyone, to decide what is right for others.
Keep your standard of living to yourself, and stay out of others lives if you don’t want yours eventually infringed on by someone else, like the government you think should be all powerful.
“OATH KEEPERS: ORDERS WE WILL NOT OBEY”
Sounds like another of Boxlock’s dubious cut and paste jobs.
The democrats loath religion because it runs contrary to total state control. The religion of the state is their goal.
Here, the government tithes 10% of our bounty:
Donation = free
Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told
CNSNews.com Wednesday that one in 10 doses of the swine-flu vaccine
purchased by the U.S. will be donated to other nations before U.S.
demand is filled.
Sebelius also told a Senate committee that vaccine production is well
behind demand.
“What we said is once we have 40 million doses (of the vaccine), the
donation can start,” Sebelius told CNSNews.com. “There’s an agreement
(of) 10 percent donation that 11 nations have made,” she said.
HHS has ordered about 250 million doses of the vaccine, so the donation
would begin after the U.S. received just 16 percent of its original order.
10% of Americans will go without an H1N1 shot. By State decree – 10% of us is an acceptable number to die.
““OATH KEEPERS: ORDERS WE WILL NOT OBEY”
Sounds like another of Boxlock’s dubious cut and paste jobs.”–WS
You think I wrote it for them you dumb ass?
Women with Breast Cancer: Make sure we get a good government healthcare plan where the gubermint panel decides what drugs are approved to prolong your lives.
“Its complicated quality assessment valued the drug at £59,000 per life year – higher than the £30,000 threshold it normally applies, although no specific limit has been stipulated since the rules for end-of-life drugs changed.Nice concluded that the drug “is not recommended for the routine treatment” of women with advanced breast cancer once Herceptin has failed, although they can be given it in clinical trials. The appraisal is now open to consultation”
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/10/open-thread-1022-2/#comment-684327
Obama hates women.
“Keep your standard of living to yourself, and stay out of others lives”
Unfortunately, some people put their own creature comfort over the welfare of their nation, their fellow man and the planet. They are either ignorant and require education or they are willfully socially and ecologically irresponsible. It is the duty of responsible leaders to help them to do the right thing.
WS,
Here clueless, look at the link I provided and place your cursor over it and left click. Then you can read it for yourself, or go get someone to read and explain it for you.
“Ha ha, do you consider your standard of living at odds with what the planet can provide BlueJay?”
Boxlock, BJ is a psycho. He has stated he hates Wichita, he hates Kansas, and he hates the United States. He also is ashamed to bring a female companion home for his own son to see.
I think the evidence is overwhelming that BJ is at odds with the planet.
This must really confuse the libs:
Tiny bat pits green against green
Wind farm could cut carbon, but could it also kill endangered species?
GREENBRIER COUNTY, W.VA. — Workers atop mountain ridges are putting
together 389-foot windmills with massive blades that will turn
Appalachian breezes into energy. Retiree David Cowan is fighting to stop
them.
Because of the bats
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/21/AR200910
2101282.html?hpid=moreheadlines
Hoyer Says Constitution’s ‘General Welfare’ Clause Empowers Congress to
Order Americans to Buy Health Insurance
Wednesday, October 21, 2009
By Matt Cover
David B. Rivkin, a constitutional lawyer with Baker & Hostetler, told
CNSNews.com that Hoyer’s argument was “silly,” adding that if the
general welfare clause was that elastic, then nothing would be outside
of Congress’ powers.
“Congressman Hoyer is wrong,” Rivkin said. “The notion that the general
welfare language is a basis for a specific legislative exercise is all
silly because if that’s true, because general welfare language is
inherently limitless, then the federal government can do anything.
“The arguments are, I believe, feeble,” he said.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/55851
“Unfortunately, some people put their own creature comfort over the welfare of their nation, their fellow man and the planet.”–BlueJay
The free market and market forces take care of all of that far better than a manipulative government that makes more mistakes and miscalculations than the market as a whole. And the government, at least this administration, simply tries to instill it’s ongoing power at the expense of the country and the people.
Please learn to speak intelligently (and in only one nic) for yourself before you presume to speak for me “American way”.
BJ is a psycho. He has stated he hates Wichita, he hates Kansas, and he hates the United States. He also is ashamed to bring a female companion home for his own son to see.
I think the evidence is overwhelming that BJ is at odds with the planet.
The “free” market has failed us in any number of ways.
The “free” market has given us a nation that is incapable of manufacturing anything domestically and a health care system that fails to provide health care to all Americans. And that’s just for starters.
Debunking the Left on global warming
More than 6,000 groups in 27 different countries tuned in Sunday to watch The Heritage Foundation’s premiere of Not Evil, Just Wrong, a feature-length documentary countering global warming hysteria and explaining the dangerous consequences of the Left’s environmental policies.
» Learn more about the film and watch the two-minute trailer.
Not Evil, Just Wrong illustrates on film what Heritage experts have been telling lawmakers, the media and the American people about global warming legislation: these new regulations will impose a huge burden on the economy. New Heritage research drives the point home. Writing on Heritage’s blog, the Foundry, Heritage expert Nick Lorris details important new studies finding that “far more jobs would be destroyed than green jobs created, households will lose income, and the economy as a whole will be operating $9.4 trillion under its potential from 2012-2035 — all because of cap and trade.”
The documentary puts a human face on the widespread job losses resulting from climate change legislation, which would pummel critical American industries that depend on traditional energy sources. And it sheds light on the harmful policies that burden people and industry in exchange for little or no environmental benefit.
Joining the expert panel at the Heritage premiere, director Ann McElhinney explained why she sought to counter the Left with Not Evil, Just Wrong:
They don’t allow us to teach religion in the public schools of America . . . but there is a religion being taught and it’s not based on anything factual. It’s a green religion . . . This is not good. It’s a religion that hates America . . . and anyone who ignores it is ignoring it at their own peril.
The panel discussion, moderated by journalist Andrew Breitbart, also included MIT meteorology researcher Richard Lindzen; medical researcher Donald Roberts; and Wall Street Journal columnist John Fund.
» Watch a video of the panel discussion on MyHeritage.org.
While each panelist offered a different perspective, each defended the same, sound conclusion: “There’s a right way and a wrong way to protect the environment. Americans are completely capable of being good stewards of the environment without the government telling us how or why.”
Instead of undermining American prosperity and free enterprise by enacting radical environmental regulations, Congress should work to diversify our energy sources. These new sources include expanded domestic oil production, nuclear energy, coal and renewable fuels. Heritage experts argue that lawmakers should craft “policies that will lower gas and electricity prices rather than raise them. When government impediments are lifted, America’s energy entrepreneurs can develop innovative and market-driven solutions to our energy needs.”
Can President Barack Obama and Congress enact legislation that orders
Americans to buy broccoli? If so, where did they get that authority?
What provision in the Constitution empowers the federal government to
order an individual to buy a product he does not want?
This is not a question about nutrition. It is not a question about
whether broccoli is good for you or about the relative merits of
broccoli versus other foods. It is a question about the constitutional
limits on the power of the federal government. It is a question about
freedom.
Can President Obama and Congress enact legislation that orders Americans
to buy health insurance? They might as well order Americans to buy
broccoli. They have no legitimate authority to do either. Yet neither
Obama nor the current leadership in Congress seems to care about the
constitutional limits on their power.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/55827
“The Heritage Foundation’s premiere of Not Evil, Just Wrong,”
apparently did not go over big locally. I had seat but did not attend.
Tee hee.
“READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States”
“The Patriot movement, so named because its adherents believe the federal government has stepped on the constitutional ideals of the American Revolution, gained traction in the 1990s and has been closely linked to anti-government militia and white supremacist movements.
The movement is blamed for spawning Timothy McVeigh, who bombed a federal building in Oklahoma City in 1995, killing 168 people.”
“The group’s state director in Montana, who goes by the name Elias Alias, has said Montana and other states should consider seceding from the United States in protest of the federal government’s conduct.”
http://www.lvrj.com/news/oath-keepers-pledges-to-prevent-dictatorship-in-united-states-64690232.html
Classy folks, there Oath Keepers.
okobserver
Posted September 8, 2009 at 8:39 pm | Permalink
Bluejay sorry I had to post and run earlier. Believe it or not I found that little jewel on my first dig. Amazing.
Now as for your ‘little lie’. Your son was never on SCHIP if he lived in Kansas.
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So BJ lied about:
1. His kid NOT having healthcare.
2. About his kid being on SCHIP and then cancelled because of Bush.
3. His kid being on SCHIP.
That’s 3 lies so far. Did I miss any?
XXX
Posted September 2, 2009 at 12:43 pm | Permalink
BlueJay is a liar. He got 2 gig of DDR memory out of the deal. And with spare parts provided by me and another poster and the small sum collected, 3 poor families and their children got computers. Not the fastest or best, but good, serviceable equipment. In 2 cases, the computers are still in use.
Once again, BlueJay has libeled another blogger on these pages.
BlueJay
Posted August 29, 2009 at 12:14 am | Permalink
“Since the wrod “right seems to offend you “why not take the time and do it correctly?”
Because “correctly” by your definition means nothing gets done.
We have a nation of nothing gets done. I am ready to disown my own son because he WILL not care about history or politics. He is ripe for recruitment by the cons and I am deeply ashamed of him.
“The “free” market has failed us in any number of ways.”
No BlueJay, the free market has only “failed”, in your words, because the government has twisted and bent it in so many ways that it doesn’t resemble a free market anymore. The government creates many of the problems and then claims it has to take more control to solve the problems it has created.
And that’s the problem.
That the best you got “American way”?
Bring your A game (and your usual nic) if you want to engage me.
Bluejay once or twice posted that his son has health insurance courtesy of the state:
Kansas Healthwave/state Children’s Health Insurance Program CHIP.
To qualify for that program, your income must be 200% of the federal poverty level or less.
For a household of two (BJ and son), that income limit is $2,429.00 per month, this year. That would be the highest annual income of just over $29,000.
The max income limit to qualify for the federal Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), was $33,995.00 for filing single with one dependent son.
(2008 tax year)
This taxpayer would be eligible for up to $4,500
EITC payment (2008).
The federal income tax liability for income of under $30,000 in this case is zero.
The problem is we have too much business in Government and not enough or no Government in business.
This is detailed very well, with prediction of the very results we are now living in the works of Thomas Frank “What’s the Matter With Kansas?” and “The Wrecking Crew. How Conservatives Rule”.
“You think I wrote it for them you dumb ass?”
Did I call you a derogatory name, Boxlock?
“I mean, could there be something in the custody arrangement, whereby BlueJay’s son can be claimed as an exemption by the boy’s mother??”
Certainly Bluejay. But we know the deal don’t we.
For you to qualify for the Kansas CHIP program, you need to be real honest in your reporting. Otherwise, someone might get the wrong impression and report you for fraud on your income statement.
Of course fraud on your federal and state tax returns is another can of worms.
Funny thing about liars. They have to keep covering their tracks with more and more lies. It does get difficult to remember all these details.
But I always believe the truth will come out. And what goes around, comes around….in the end.
And no one “out you” on here, except yourself. And those friendly emails you guys banter back and forth. Funny thing about secrets. Very few people really keep them. Everyone has to tell just one person.
I’ve said from my beginning on the weblog – all professionals advise internet users to protect your personal identity and do not reveal personal information on a faceless blog. Do not assume that trading personal information with other bloggers and disclosing and sending email is going to be kept private. Those that do not abide by this advise are setting themselves up.
And AGAIN….BlueJay is proven to be not only a slug, a parasite on society but a liar as well.
Oh yeah, and a self admitted thief, of dirt no less.
Pathetic.
“The problem is we have too much business in Government and not enough or no Government in business.”
The problem is the resident welfare blogger cannot hold the job as fryguy at McDonalds long enough to gain benefits.
“They have to keep covering their tracks with more and more lies. It does get difficult to remember all these details.”
I think we know that you have personal experience with that, AND in more than one nic.
“The problem is the resident welfare blogger”
Do you mean “Regular” or “HLP”?
“Did I call you a derogatory name, Boxlock?”–WS
No you didn’t, but then I don’t consider that I said anything qualifying such. Hint, which means I considered your statement justifying one.
But none the less I apologize for the personal comment.
You attacked me for a copy and paste, but how else to totally and accurately show what they said. That’s why I did so.
Nice try on the NIC switching attempt Bluejay, I mean JR, I mean JM…….
But alas, American_Way has always been American_Way.
As in truth, justice, and the American_Way of life….
I’ll bet those Oath Keepers would have followed any orders issued by President Jefferson after he was sworn into office on January 20, 1777.
Also, these Oath Keepers should have been around during the Bush administration to disobey orders pertaining to numbers 2 and 3 on their list. They could have done something about the actual violations committed against the COTUS instead of the violations that they imagine might occur at the behest of President Obama or some future president.
Uh huh. And it don’t rain in Indianapolis in the summer time.
Oh, and by the way WS,
The Oath Keepers are our and your everyday law enforcement personal on the street, that believe in our Constitution and what they have been sworn to respect and uphold, and not what Obama and his gang of Chicago weirdos, or a bunch of socialist, self-empowering DimLibs are doing to this country.
American_Way
Posted October 22, 2009 at 8:38 pm | Permalink
Can President Barack Obama and Congress enact legislation that orders
Americans to buy broccoli? If so, where did they get that authority?
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If the Congress can pass and the president can sign a law which prohibits the possession of one plant, I imagine the Congress could pass and the president could sign a law which mandates the consumption of another.
Daniel = irrelevant as usual.
Another American Killed in Afghanistan BloodBath
October 22, 2009
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DoD Identifies Army Casualty
The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.
Spc. Kyle A. Coumas, 22, of Lockeford, Calif., died Oct. 21 in Kandahar province, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked his vehicle with an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to 1st Battalion, 17th Infantry Regiment, 5th Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 2nd Infantry Division, Fort Lewis, Wash.
Obama Stop the Killing! Bring Our Troops Home!
“The Oath Keepers are our and your everyday law enforcement personal on the street”
“The movement is blamed for spawning Timothy McVeigh, who bombed a federal building in Oklahoma City in 1995, killing 168 people.”
How many of the everyday law enforcement personnel (notice the correct spelling) approved of the actions of McVeigh?
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Boxlock20
Posted October 22, 2009 at 9:05 pm | Permalink
Oh, and by the way WS,
The Oath Keepers are our and your everyday law enforcement personal on the street, that believe in our Constitution and what they have been sworn to respect and uphold, and not what Obama and his gang of Chicago weirdos, or a bunch of socialist, self-empowering DimLibs are doing to this country.
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Then why did these Oath Keepers drop the ball on warrant less wiretaps and the detention of an American citizen as an enemy combatant during the Bush administration?
Hmmmmmmmm?
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JimJohnson
Posted October 22, 2009 at 3:20 pm | Permalink
BlueJay
Posted October 22, 2009 at 2:25 pm | Permalink
“Since I don’t agree with AGW legislation I will ignore it”
I don’t think that will be an option. Sometimes we have to act in the better interest whether people are capable of understanding the need or not.
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Freebird, I don’t think BJ understood your sarcastic jab, but I liked it.
(Pssst….BJ…..breaking a fireworks law is ok, but breaking a global warming law is not, right?)
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I’m sure you are right. Understanding sacrasm requires a certain level of intellectual maturity that some are unable to obtain
BlueJay
Posted October 22, 2009 at 7:01 pm | Permalink
““There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do so,”
Is there a list for those who absolutely refuse to defend the state? Even if ORDERED to do so? I want on that one.
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Huge surprise.
American_Way
Posted October 22, 2009 at 7:26 pm | Permalink
“I wonder what is slowing down production of the vaccine?”
I heard a rumor the company which manufactures the vaccine are anxiously awaiting a visit by THE ONE. It is told in legend that when Obama arrives, he will make everything all better using his super human strength.
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Answer: Government is Incompetent.
Bring on ObamaCare!
Notice that WS is doesn’t list references or give links to what he quotes. Why is that….maybe because even he his embarrassed of where they came from, ha ha ha.
WS is a liar as well, the Oath Keepers are actively defending this country.
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/wp-content/uploads/000000S4200090-500×445.jpg
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BlueJay
Posted October 22, 2009 at 7:01 pm | Permalink
““There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do so,”
Is there a list for those who absolutely refuse to defend the state? Even if ORDERED to do so? I want on that one.
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Interesting that bj wants the state to provide for and protect him but is not willing to defend it.
“Barack Obama sees worst poll rating drop in 50 years
The decline in Barack Obama’s popularity since July has been the steepest of any president at the same stage of his first term for more than 50 years.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/6409721/Barack-Obama-sees-worst-poll-rating-drop-in-50-years.html#
The rest of the world, except for those wanting to see us fail, realize he is a incompetent.
Boxlock20,
Maybe you missed it, so I’ll ask again. Why did these Oath Keepers drop the ball on warrant less wiretaps and the detention of an American citizen as an enemy combatant during the Bush administration?
Hmmmmmmmm?
Death Penalty for the Killer?
I hope they catch the S O B and fry his A $ $.
Garbage Trucks Lead to Discovery of Dead Florida Girl
Thursday, October 22, 2009
ORANGE PARK, Fla. — After 7-year-old Somer Thompson vanished on her way home from school, investigators tailed nine garbage trucks from her neighborhood to a Georgia landfill nearly 50 miles away, then picked through the trash as each rig spilled its load.
They sorted through more than 225 tons of garbage before their worst fears were realized: Sticking out of the rubbish were a child’s lifeless legs.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,569227,00.html?test=latestnews
On the lighter side of the news, apparently this is good news:
Friend: Balloon Mom Will ‘Go Down’ | SLIDESHOW
(Strange headline, now on http://www.foxnews.com)
Government kills business and it starts right here with regulating pay.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33439647/ns/business-us_business/
Boxlock20
Posted October 22, 2009 at 9:40 pm | Permalink
“Barack Obama sees worst poll rating drop in 50 years
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Even polls of the favored press are becoming less favorable.
Strange, Little Info Yet on the Kinsman, IL Raid
Let’s just say that FBI raids in Kinsman are uncommon. You’ll get regular patrols from Grundy County Sheriff deputies, but nothing much beyond that in law enforcement presence. All that separates the area from pure anarchy are the fences that keep the cows from running amuck.
Imagine my surprise when, about noon on Sunday, my fiancee got a call that there were dozens of FBI agents wielding automatic weapons on the outskirts of the town. We had no idea what that meant for us living a stone’s throw up the road in Seneca, for my parents living even closer to Kinsman or for Amber’s two cousins and their families that live right in Kinsman.
Luckily, the raid didn’t result in any fireworks, or even any arrests. County Sheriff Terry Marketti, whose personnel were present at the raid, assures the public that there is no imminent danger. An FBI spokesperson called the meat locker abandoned, according to MDH reporter Jo Ann Hustis.
All the FBI will really say about the incident is that it is in the midst of an ongoing investigation. I think we’re all aware that the FBI wouldn’t come to Kinsman just to take the tour. I don’t want to speculate on the reasons the bureau decided to visit — well, I do, but I can’t — but bringing “dozens of law enforcement vehicles, two helicopters and a small airplane,” as Hustis reported, makes it clear that they were serious and visited with a purpose.
Maybe more will come of the situation, and more will come out in our newspaper in the coming weeks and months. Maybe it won’t. The FBI isn’t exactly forthcoming about all of its activities. But let’s hope that the bureau doesn’t have reasons to raid our area again any time soon.
http://www.morrisdailyherald.com/articles/2009/10/22/32482299/index.xml#
“WS is a liar as well,”
Show us where I lied, Box.
“Notice that WS is doesn’t list references or give links to what he quotes”
WSClark
Posted October 22, 2009 at 8:43 pm | Permalink
http://www.lvrj.com/news/oath-keepers-pledges-to-prevent-dictatorship-in-united-states-64690232.html
Will,
Good conversation and food yesterday
Interesting Investment:
Cerberus’ Guns, Ammo Business Files for $200 Million IPO
Over a three-year span Cerberus — while under the spotlight for ill-fated acquisitions of auto maker Chrysler LLC and lender GMAC LLC — has quietly acquired at least seven U.S. gun-and-ammunition makers. Those companies have been consolidated into Freedom, which had first-half earnings of $23 million on revenue of $427.3 million, compared with a year-earlier loss of $6.1 million on revenue of $316.8 million.
Freedom has been a major beneficiary of the boom. Remington, its largest unit, recently reported a $300 million backlog in unfilled orders, up from about $113 million a year earlier. Background checks conducted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation — a key measure of firearms sales — increased by 20% for the first nine months of 2009 compared the same period the year before, according to the National Shooting Sports Foundation, a trade association for the industry.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125612136899998683.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
“Good conversation and food yesterday”
Absolutely, D. That was fun – we’ll do it again soon. Your choice of “greasy spoon” this time.
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American_Way
Posted October 22, 2009 at 8:26 pm | Permalink
10% of Americans will go without an H1N1 shot. By State decree – 10% of us is an acceptable number to die.
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I’m sure the
26232220 percenters will be so mistrustful of government that they’ll refuse to be inoculated.There should be plenty of vaccine for the rest of us.
Sounds good got a message from my daughter tonite doc says baby time could be any time now
“Sounds good got a message from my daughter tonite doc says baby time could be any time now”
Keep me posted, brother.
Hey Will?
When are you going to introduce me to your little yapping dog of a friend “Freebird”?
Freedom Group
The following table details our U.S. commercial market leadership for the major product categories in which we participate.
Categories U.S.
Market
Position U.S.
Market
Share Selected Brands
Firearms
Shotguns
#1 31 % Remington, Marlin, Parker, H&R, L.C. Smith, Dakota Arms
Traditional Rifles
#1 36 % Remington, Marlin, H&R, Dakota Arms
Modern Sporting Rifles
#1 49 % Bushmaster, DPMS, Remington
Ammunition
#1 33 % Remington, UMC, Dakota
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1471597/000104746909009062/a2194443zs-1.htm#ee14901_where_you_can_find_more_information
“Interesting that bj wants the state to provide for and protect him but is not willing to defend it.”
Millions without health care. Workers pushed to the point of servile labor.
I aint finding much worth defending there.
“When are you going to introduce me to yourh ittle yapping dog of a friend “Freebird”?”
Hey, Jay, when you think that you are man enough to tell me who can be my friend, let me know.
Maybe Steven was right when he suggested ComCare or maybe Linda had it correct when she said “who the Hell do you think you are?”
Free is my friend – I’ll stand by him whenever.
As for you, Jay, you have already written me off, so FU.
BTW: I have met you Jay, and even though I am twenty years older than you, I ain’t afraid of you.
I don’t sweat you either. Sellout. The only reason you come here is to schmooze with the enemy. Why even bother?
“The only reason you come here is to schmooze with the enemy.”
Nice try, Jay. Is your goal to alienate everyone on the right and the left?
It takes a lot to PO Steven and Linda, but you managed to do both in just a few minutes.
As Steven suggested, maybe you need to spend some time with ComCare.
BlueJay,
We’re all Americans here, and I think we probably agree on 75% or more on what kind of people we are and what kind of nation we want this to be. Yeah, that last 25% can get people pretty worked up, but that doesn’t make us enemies. Sure, there’s a few lunatics that probably need some serious mental health care, but they’re more pitiful than they are enemies.
Attacking WSClark for putting aside conflict for a couple of hours for the sake of friendship is irresponsible at best, and immature and childish at worst. Rise above your own bad behavior, BJ, and learn how to accept people for who they are.
Well they aint here are they Will.
And they chose not to be here. I respect that even if I want nothing to do with it.
Go on back and tell them I am keeping up the fight while you are in bed with the enemy.
American_Way posted October 22, 2009 at 8:38 pm
. . . watch the two-minute trailer.
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. . . and laugh at how they managed to pack nine lies into such a short time interval.
Oh I’ll accept WS for what he is.
He got his lip in the gutter when Obama faced the slightest of difficulties during the campaign. The record shows that and how I told him to buck up since if Obama were ever President, he would face much worse.
WS Clark admitted to me in person that I was right.
Now, we have do nothing Barack and his apologist followers STILL kissing up to the right.
Hey Will?
Why are you over here where you schmooze the right playing “let’s you and them fight!” with me and Steven and Linda? I’ve no beef with them. Why are you trying to create one?
“WS Clark admitted to me in person that I was right.”
No, I didn’t, Jay. I was man enough to apologize for using your real name on this blog.
That was my apology.
I took the high road – why do you live on the low road, Jay?
“I’ve no beef with them.”
What I stated about the comments made by Steven and Linda is absolutely accurate – and you know it, Jay.
Your apology was for attacking me when I TOLD you that the attacks from the left against Obama were the least of your worries. That he would face much worse.
Now get out of here. Invite your new right wing pals back to wherever it is you blog.
The Blue Jay’s habits from Wiki
They will wait and watch for a person to put food down and as soon as the person walks away they will swoop down and steal it. Along with crows, jays will also watch a person planting seed crops and afterwards dig up and eat the seeds. Jays are very territorial birds, and they will chase others from a feeder for an easier meal. The Blue Jay has a bad reputation as a raider of other birds’ nests, stealing eggs, chicks, and nests
“It takes a lot to PO Steven and Linda, but you managed to do both in just a few minutes.”
Is that right? Here on the WE Blog?
All you have to do is prove it.
How big are you willing to sellout WS?
Cat fight?
You are here speaking for other people WS.
Who are you to do that? Take “Freebird” back wherever it is that you blog.
“Now get out of here.”
Make me.
JimJohnson,
Those of us here in the center and on the left expect people to engage in civilized behavior. It’s a pity the right has no such standard.
Getting popcorn now….
“You are here speaking for other people WS.”
Nope. Do you want me to C/P want they posted?
Best shut up now, Jay, and cut your losses.
“It takes a lot to PO Steven and Linda, but you managed to do both in just a few minutes.”
Where is that Will?
T.Witt,
You are interrupting the display of civilized behavior between two on the left right now – BJ, and Clark.
Shhh….
“Where is that Will?”
The other blog – should I bone dig from a few days ago and make a fool of you, Jay?
It wasn’t pretty, so I would advise you not to go there.
Monkeyhawk
Posted October 22, 2009 at 7:53 am | Permalink
Oh, shut up, “BlueJay” –
Don’t threaten me, sellout. YOU say you have something?
Put it here with the source.
Ya know, when I met you and you apologized I had NO idea you were going to be there. Otherwise, I would not have attended.
The right has the sense not to embrace “Regular”. I cannot understand how the left embraced you. You are idealistic but naive and eager to turn on a friend to embrace an enemy.
What other blog?
You are a liar WS as well as a sellout.
I can picture BJ the former Union Steward, negotiating a labor dispute…..
Okobserver talks about another blog WS Clark. Are you a poster there?
“What other blog?”
Thunderchild
October 19, 2009 at 7:40 am
Goodbye.
That one.
JimJohnson, you missed my point. When we see someone behaving badly, we call them out on it. Much the same as the “right” does with people like Regular.
Oh wait.
You don’t.
Nevermind.
Well HEY WS there’s your little dog Freebird and another little dog “JimJohnson”. Maybe you want to introduce them to this “other blog’?
“You are a liar WS as well as a sellout.”
You’re a tough guy on the blog, Jay, in person, not so much.
WS I have no idea what you are talking about.
Do you?
“Maybe you want to introduce them to this “other blog’?”
No, it is an “invite only” blog, monitored and subject to disqualification.
And, since I do not own the blog, it is not my place to introduce anyone.
Is that right WS Clark?
I was within arms reach of you. You were not so confused then.
“Do you?”
Absolutely.
Oh you wanted to sell them out WS.
You already have.
“You were not so confused then.”
Are you as moronic as to continue this game, Jay?
I wasn’t confused then, and I am not confused now.
Damn, you are one stupid mo th er fu ck er.
(Pssst…BJ, this will save you some typing time)
BlueJay
Posted September 2, 2009 at 12:11 pm | Permalink
Well, before I “go”.
And if I do, it may be my own choice. There are better blogs than this one.
I would like to get one thing out.
XXX once collected money on my behalf. I didn’t ask him to do it. And he would tell you himself how touched I was by the show of love from some of my friends who pretty much avoid this place anymore. Some of them wonder why it is I waste my time here.
I considered XXX a friend and hoped we might be reconciled. Apparently, that is not going to happen. His choice.
XXX kept the money he collected that I did not ask him to collect. I never saw a dime of it. To be fair, I informed him privately that this was ok as I did not want to trouble him further after he decided we were no longer friends.
And that’s it for me now. And if that’s it for me for good?
I’ve loved almost every minute of it.
Ta!
I gotta wash my hand. I shook hands with the sellout WS Clark.
You are talking about some other blog WS, and people who are not here.
Why bring it here? But if you do, I will call you out for the sellout that you are,
Hey Will?
THIS forum will now place you alongside “Jim Johnson” in relevance.
What is this other forum you speak of??
“I gotta wash my hand. I shook hands with the sellout WS Clark.”
Alright, Jay, how do you want to end this?
You are always threatening violence, “spittin’ teeth” etc., so do you want a face-to-face confrontation or are you just going to STFU?
If it will be face-to-face, name the time and place and I’ll be there.
“I wasn’t confused then, and I am not confused now.”
Well sure you are Will. You don’t know which way to jump.
Go back to this “other forum” you spoke of WS.
Take your right wing pals with you,
The difference between me and you WS Clark is I would not sell out a friend to appease an enemy.
If YOU have something to sellout, you go ahead on.
Done over? I don’t meet a suck up like you.
“Go back to this “other forum” you spoke of WS.”
Time and place, Jay, or STFU.
Oh come on WS.
I sat within arm’s length of you. I let you take a picture of me from 3 feet.
Why were you there? To sell out your own side?
Like you are selling out this “other blog” you talk about?
Hey put my picture here WS.
Put whatever you think you know about me here too.
Then, run on back to this other blog that you talk about. Tell them you got me good.
“I don’t meet a suck up like you.”
As usual, Jay, you call someone out, then chicken out when they accept your challenge.
You asked for the confrontation, so now be man enough to show up or STFU.
Or are you going to pull a “I have nothing to gain” line of BS like you have pulled so many times before?
The last thing I heard was you’re coming back
And Didaly’s love scene was going black
The city of love was pulling you in
200 miles between me, you and him
You got me good, it’s understood
You got me good, yeah I understand
You got me good, it’s understood
How you got me good
September 6th back in 94
I watched you walk, ’til I could see you no more
Out of the airport all of my love
In the form of a 16 year old girl
You got me good, it’s understood
You got me good, yeah I understand
You got me good, it’s understood
How you got me good
“Hey put my picture here WS.”
Believe it or not, even WEBlog has standards for decency – they rejected the photos of you.
“Put whatever you think you know about me here too.”
I know that you are a coward that talks tough but can’t back it up.
Time and place, Jay, let’s settle this.
I already met you WS. You apologized as well you should.
What you want to meet again?
Bring your pal “‘Freebird”
We are still waiting for these things you say have been said about me Ws cluck.
You called me out, Jay. You slammed me because one of my friends does not share your political views. You play this insane game of us v. them, while we are all Americans.
Well, I am calling you out now, Jay. I am tired of your insults and disparaging comments. You are no better man than I, in fact, you could only hope to be the man that I am.
So, Jay, name the time and place.
Let’s settle this – you and me – one on one.
sure Will.
Let’s do it on this “other blog” that you talk about.
Last we met Will, you shook my hand and admitted I was right.
So, Jay, name the time and place.
One on one – face to face.
Name the time and place.
“Last we met Will, you shook my hand and admitted I was right.”
No, the only time we met, I was man enough to apologize for using your real name on this blog.
So, Jay, name the time and place.
One on one – face to face.
Name the time and place.
Brinn your pal “”Freebird”‘ WS Cluck and I’ll consider it Cluck
“Brinn your pal “”Freebird”‘ WS Cluck and I’ll consider it Cluck”
Great, name the time and place, Jay. I am sure that Freebird would RELISH the opportunity.
Name the time and place, Jay.
How about Sunday AM, about 11:30 at Riverside Park?
Works for me!
I already met you Cluck. You have a camera and many con apologist views.
Go back to this “other blog” you talk about.
1130 Riverside Park should work for me on Sunday
“I already met you Cluck.”
Well, you called me out, Jay, and anyway you haven’t met Free, so let’s make a date – Sunday 11:30 AM at Riverside Park. We can all meet at Bobby’s cage to “discuss.”
“So, Jay, name the time and place.
One on one – face to face.”‘
I already did that,
Well Bllue Jay, If me being there would make you uneasy I’ll bow out so you and Will can discuss things.
Take “Freebird” back to this other blog you speak of and vet him there WS CLUCK.
I see back up lights
“Take “Freebird” back to this other blog you speak of and vet him there”
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, does this mean that you won’t show up, Blue Jay?
Or should that be, Chix ‘N’ Skit?
back up lights AND an audible alarm
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, does this mean that you won’t show up, Blue Jay?
It does.
I have already met the toady WS Clark..
I do not need to meet any of his new con friends
Will,
Gotta get some zzzzs 6am comes around pretty quick,let me know if he mans up
Nightie night, boys – Free check your e-mail tomorrow – Jay the Riverside invite is still open – be there or be…………….
Later.
Got my answer Will,just as I suspected talks the talk but never walks the walk
Naw WS. Take it back to this “other forum” you talk about.
I knew bluejay was a coward the first time I seen him.
“FORD1ST” chimes in –
“I knew bluejay was a coward the first time I seen him.”
Now if you just knew how to conjugate the verb “to see.”
Ignorance and arrogance.
WE Blog CONs are starting early this morning.
Am I suppose to be sorry I said anything about your flag burning buddy mh.
No, “FORD1ST” –
You’re supposed to be sorry for butchering the English language.
An what would you know about it.
Is this how you get your kicks, by making fun of people.
MONKEY CHICKEN I think the word arrogance fits you better .
“FORD1ST” –
Arrogance, ignorance, and then “FORD1ST” goes straight for the name-calling!
What ever you say CAPTAIN EQUINOX
If it weren’t for non sequiturs ol’ “FORD1ST” wouldn’t have any sequiturs at all.
I Would love to meet you sometime so you could teach me somethings an Icould teach you something.
“FORD1ST” pines –
“I Would love to meet you sometime so you could teach me somethings an Icould teach you something.”
What’cha got in mind?
HELL you name it
List your areas of expertise.
Like I said, you name it. you seen to think i not to bright.
seem
Sorry about that, big hands
“FORD1ST” struts –
“Like I said, you name it. you seen to think i not to bright.”
Teach me grammar. Teach me about homonyms.
Oh, wait….
The Monkey is being walked through his morning exercises, but hasn’t figured that out yet.
Well i can see this is a waste of time, but I’ll still meet you sometime somewhere.
Run, “FORD1ST,” run!
Run like the wind!
“Maybe you missed it, so I’ll ask again. Why did these Oath Keepers drop the ball on warrant less wiretaps and the detention of an American citizen as an enemy combatant during the Bush administration?
Hmmmmmmmm?”—Daniel
Got bored with the company and found better things to do last night Daniel.
Can’t you research or figure anything out on your own Daniel?
The Oath Keepers, as an organization, didn’t drop the ball on anything….they didn’t exist as an organization and had not made the oath they now do.
What was done then wasn’t warrant-less and had guidelines and protocols associated with the activities.
Wake up for once.
Wow! Bluejay asked his friend WSClark if he could meet Freebird. Then spent the next two hours talking about it. Finally, WS reluctantly offered to make the introductions, BJ bows out.
Libs are hard to figure out sometimes.
Scratching my head…….