Open thread 10/21

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  1. Regular
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 6:06 am | Permalink

    ‘They Tried to Steal an Election,’ N.Y. Voter Fraud Case Heats Up

    Fox News

    Thirty-eight forged or fraudulent ballots have been thrown out, according to records at the Rensselaer County Board of Elections in Troy, N.Y. Enough votes, an election official admits, to likely have tipped the November election to the Democrats.

  2. Regular
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 6:22 am | Permalink

    New Oklahoma Abortion Law Violates Patient Privacy, Critics Charge

    Fox News

    The Statistical Reporting of Abortions Act has outraged a number of abortion rights advocates who say it is a blatant violation of patient privacy rights that is meant to intimidate women from seeking abortions.

    Abortion rights advocates are lashing out at a new law in Oklahoma that in less than two weeks will require doctors to release detailed information — which will be posted on a public Web site — about all women who have abortions in the state.

    cont’d at:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/20/new-oklahoma-abortion-law-violates-patient-privacy-critics-charge/?test=latestnews

  3. george
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 6:40 am | Permalink

    We can’t afford this witch and her wicked ways.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59J6C020091020?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true

  4. XXX
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 6:46 am | Permalink

    A preliminary estimate from the Congressional Budget Office projects that the House Democrats’ health care plan that includes a public option would cost $871 billion over 10 years, according to two Democratic sources.

    CBO also found that the Democrats’ bill reduces the deficit in the first 10 years.

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/21/health.care.cbo/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
    _______________________________

    WHAT?!?!?!?

    This isn’t what Republicans have been telling us.

  5. Heckler
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 6:57 am | Permalink

    XXX Says “$871 billion over 10 years”.

    OPEN YOUR EYES MAN. I know you’re brighter than that.

    The taxes would start NOW. The coverage would not start for four years. So you have 6 years of operation on 10 years of taxes.

    Now go find what the estimates are for the SECOND ten years of the program. It’s DOUBLE the first ten year estimate.

    And when has the .gov ever been accurate on estimates of big programs like this. Medicare costs 8 times what they estimated it would cost. Learn from history. Please.

  6. Posted October 21, 2009 at 7:05 am | Permalink

    Well, well, well. It looks like the Alan Jilka campaign for Jerry Moran’s 1st. Congressional District seat is going down in flames before it can even get off the ground. It seems that the Director of the Salina Housing Authority is suing him for sexual harassment. I wonder if Bill Clinton recruited him to run? How do you say, “I’m a skirt chasing, philandering, bore” in Spanish?

  7. Regular
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 7:06 am | Permalink

    Congress’ Secret Plan to Pass O’BAMACARE – Confirmed

    Heritage Foundation

    The Shell Game by O’BAMA

    Their plan is to proceed to a House passed non-health care bill to provide a shell of legislation to give Obamacare a ride to the House then to the President’s desk.

    Sound confusing? We lay out the steps below, but essentially the Senate would pass health care reform as an amendment to a completely unrelated bill so the Senate and House could act quickly and without further debate. Even worse? Nobody really knows what that legislation looks like but they plan on voting for it anyway.

    STEP ONE: The Senate Finance Committee will finish work on the marking up of Senator Max Baucus’ (D-MT) conceptual framework for legislation by this Friday. Many Senators are upset that they don’t have final language for a bill, yet still they sit in a Committee Hearing Room this week marking up a draft document that is not in the form of legislative language.

    STEP TWO: Next, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will take the final product of the Senate Finance Committee and merge it with the product of the Senate Health, Education, Labor & Pensions (HELP) Committee. This was the late Senator Kennedy’s (D-MA) bill, introduced by Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA), which passed the HELP Committee on July 15, 2009 on a party line vote. Remember, most Senators will still not know what they voted for in the Finance Committee.

    STEP THREE: Senator Reid will then move to proceed to H.R. 1586, a bill to impose a tax on bonuses received by certain TARP recipients. This bill was the bill passed by the House in the wake of the AIG bonus controversy and is currently sitting on the Senate Legislative Calendar. Reid will move to proceed, and he will need 60 votes to act on this bill. After the motion is approved, he will then offer a complete substitute bill purportedly including the combined Senate HELP and Finance Committee products. This means that the entire health care reform effort will be included as an amendment to a TARP bill that has been collecting dust in the Senate for months.

    STEP FOUR: For this strategy to work, the proponents would need to hold together the liberal caucus of 57 Democrats, 2 Independents (Senators Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and Bernie Sanders of Vermont), and a potential new member replacing the late Senator Kennedy. This scenario would most likely be implemented after the Massachusetts state legislature gives Governor Deval Patrick the power to appoint a new Senator and that Senator is seated by the Senate. According to CQ, the state legislature may pass a
    bill and present it to Governor Patrick by next week.

    Once the Senate passes a bill and sends it to the House, all the House would have to do is pass the bill, without changes, and President Obama will be presented with his health care reform measure thereby transforming within a few weeks 1/6th of the US economy.

    The San Francisco Examiner published an editorial today that exposed the fact that the American people can’t see the bill. “When then-Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama promised not to sign major legislation until it had been posted on the Internet for public reading at least five days, trusting voters took him at his word.

    Now they know better. Not only is the actual language of what is likely to become the main legislative vehicle for Obama’s signature health care reform not available on the Internet, it hasn’t been given to members of the key Senate committees or the Congressional Budget Office.” The procedure being used, in addition to the exclusion of the American people from the process, should be of grave concern to all who want to participate in democracy and have a say in Congress’ health care reforms that will touch 1/6th of the American economy.

    O’BAMA does not keep the promise of a transparent government, O’BAMA wants deception.

  8. Posted October 21, 2009 at 7:08 am | Permalink

    In a new poll, only 20 percent of Americans admit that they are Republicans.

    Or in other words, one in five people are proud to aadmit they are jerks.

  9. HLP
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 7:20 am | Permalink

    RNC Beats DNC in September Money Race

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/10/20/rnc-beats-dnc-in-september-money-race/

    And, the republicans are raising more oney now without the aid of Airforce One and the mesiah.

    “The GOP resurrection, meanwhile, is being aided by a rise in small donors. In some of the most competitive 2010 Senate races, Republican candidates raised more than the Democrats did in the most-recent quarter.”

  10. Posted October 21, 2009 at 7:38 am | Permalink

    “New ABC/WaPo poll out finds that only 20 percent of Americans claim to be Republicans, a 26-year low. Additionally, while a majority believe the country is on the wrong track, 49 percent trust Obama to make the right decisions for the country, versus 34 percent who trust Congressional Democrats, and a paltry 19 percent who trust the Congressional Republicans. (The 20 percent claim to be GOP number is apparently not in the data to which I linked, but ABC reported it on their evening newscast).

    It seems reasonable to conclude that the only people who trust Congressional Republicans are those who declare themselves to be Republican (in my case, what else would I be?). I guess I would be in the one percent who admits to being a Republican, but who has no faith in the Congressional Republicans. But cheer up! I don’t have faith in the Democrats or the president either!

    The Republicans are plainly in serious trouble. Typically, a third of all Americans identify with the GOP, a third with the Democrats, and a third call themselves independent. The balance of power in US electoral politics goes to the party that can attract independent votes. The GOP has withered away to the bone — and if the Carville-Greenberg focus groups can be believed, it’s going to be a walking skeleton for some time yet. “

  11. DorisKing
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 8:02 am | Permalink

    Contrast the abortion info law with the attitudes states have regarding releasing information about concealed carry holders.

  12. Posted October 21, 2009 at 8:19 am | Permalink

    “WHAT?!?!?!?

    This isn’t what Republicans have been telling us.” [XXX]

    It’s the math thing… it’s too had for them to comprehend… :-))

  13. Regular
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 8:26 am | Permalink

    The Republicans are plainly in serious trouble. Typically, a third of all Americans identify with the GOP, a third with the Democrats, and a third call themselves independent. The balance of power in US electoral politics goes to the party that can attract independent votes.

    1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 1 = 100 percent

    Looks evenly divided to me.

  14. Hud
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 8:28 am | Permalink

    “It’s the math thing… it’s too had for them to comprehend…”

    Is there anyone here who believes Chas understands math?

  15. donndublin
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 8:31 am | Permalink

    Justice concludes black voters need Democratic
    U.S. blocks N.C. city’s nonpartisan vote

    KINSTON, N.C. Voters in this small city decided overwhelmingly last year to do away with the party affiliation of candidates in local elections, but the Obama administration recently overruled the electorate and decided that equal rights for black voters cannot be achieved without the Democratic Party.

    The Justice Department’s ruling, which affects races for City Council and mayor, went so far as to say partisan elections are needed so that black voters can elect their “candidates of choice” – identified by the department as those who are Democrats and almost exclusively black.

    The department ruled that white voters in Kinston will vote for blacks only if they are Democrats and that therefore the city cannot get rid of party affiliations for local elections because that would violate black voters’ right to elect the candidates they want.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/20/justice-dept-blocks-ncs-nonpartisan-vote/

    ————-

    I guess Obama dosen’t think that black voters can think for themselves. It must be his white half that is racist.

  16. Posted October 21, 2009 at 8:33 am | Permalink

    ““New ABC/WaPo poll out finds that only 20 percent of Americans claim to be Republicans, a 26-year low. ”

    20% = 1/5th

    33%= 1/3rd

    Now maybe there’s 13% of Republicans who are just ashamed to admit it? And who could blame them.

  17. outlander
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 8:42 am | Permalink

    I notice the ABC White House reporter reduced Robert Gibbs to blithering with his questioning of the Obama administration’s attack on Fox News. In a nut shell, hmmm.. in a nut shell, the administration contends Fox News isn’t a news org because they frequently disagree with the them. And the administration has bragged about their ability to control the press with their message.

    Even ABC doesn’t think that’s a good idea.

  18. donndublin
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 8:43 am | Permalink

    Posted October 21, 2009 at 8:28 am | Permalink
    “It’s the math thing… it’s too had for them to comprehend…”

    Is there anyone here who believes Chas understands math?
    ————–
    The libs continue to show how challenged they are with math.

    Chas learned how to count coins in his seminary arithmatic class.

  19. donndublin
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    HLP
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 7:20 am | Permalink
    RNC Beats DNC in September Money Race
    —————

    Even though the dims are richer than “cons”?

    “On average, Republican communities have lower incomes and less education than Democratic communities. And those differences are growing as people migrate.”

    http://www.slate.com/id/2206512/

  20. ANTI
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 8:52 am | Permalink

    Another day caught in the gears of the Obama Propaganda Machine.

  21. Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    “BlueJay” tutors “Regular’s” math –

    ” 20% = 1/5th

    33%= 1/3rd”

    It’ll take a while for ol’ “Regular” to get back to ya. He’s got to tap the answer out in the dust with his hoof.

  22. donndublin
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    BJ is the one who needs to be tutored in math to think that 13% is 13 out of 33.

  23. SolDevVB
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    The Baucus Bill Is a Tax Bill

    Middle-class families would get hit with a double-digit increase in their marginal tax rate.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704107204574471292249934348.html

  24. donndublin
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:16 am | Permalink

    The libs are so easy to fool but they make good spelling police.

  25. CapnAmerica
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:17 am | Permalink

    MHawk — LOL!

    Heckler is outraged OUTRAGED! that the House Democrats’ health care plan that includes a public option would cost $871 billion over 10 years . . .

    Let’s see, that’s less than a year and one-half in Iraq.

    And we’ve been there going on seven years.

    So . . . my wife may be dying of cancer or crippled with MS and we’re living on the street with nothing, but THANKS to Bush she doesn’t have to wear a burkha.

  26. ANTI
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    Middle-class families would get hit with a double-digit increase in their marginal tax rate.
    =========================================

    Basically financial rape perpetrated by the Obama administration on the American people.

  27. donndublin
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    Tree huggers continue their climate change hoax.

    “In a dramatic shift, the Chamber of Commerce announced Monday that it is throwing its support behind climate change legislation making its way through the U.S. Senate.

    Only it didn’t.

    An email press release announcing the change is a hoax, say Chamber officials.

    Several media organizations fell for it.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/19/chamber-statement-announcing-support-climate-hoax/

  28. CapnAmerica
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:22 am | Permalink

    DonnDublin goes for the simple wrong answer.

    There’re a lot of reasons why the Republics may be collecting more money than Dems right now — A lot of Dems gave a lot in the last election and may be feeling tapped out.

    I haven’t been giving to the DNC because I’m doing my bit to get them to grow a spine on health care reform. When they quit collaborating with the enemy, I’ll start giving again.

  29. SolDevVB
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    What is really going to happen in Copenhagen?

    Americans lose their sovereignty.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMe5dOgbu40

  30. SolDevVB
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    Shatner OWNS. Gun control.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0D78JtxmqI

  31. CapnAmerica
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    Strangely, the Constitution that the US drafted for occupied Iraq calls health care a “right” and provides for gov’t run health-care.

    So . . . the US taxpayer is paying for Iraqi healthcare, but not our own.

    Good plan.

  32. ANTI
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    Would you like to live in Iraq, CapnAmerica?

  33. CapnAmerica
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:34 am | Permalink

    Sol–

    Gun control is dead. Stick a knife in it, it’s done.

    You can keep resurrecting the straw man to keep knocking it down, but gun control measures aren’t on anybody’s radar these days.

    You’ll always have your gun, Sol. Otherwise, how could you blow your brains out when you lose your job and your health insurance?

  34. CapnAmerica
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    Anti starts in on the “why don’t you move” schtick again.

    And so early in the morning too . . .

    If my gov’t thinks health care is important for Iraqis, why don’t they think it’s important for us?

  35. ANTI
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    If my gov’t thinks health care is important for Iraqis, why don’t they think it’s important for us?
    ==========================

    Easy.

    Iraq is a war zone and most Iraqis can’t afford health care. Plus their entire political and social structure is being rebuilt.

    In America, most Americans can afford health insurance.

    Thanks for providing an idiot’s comparison, Capn’A.

    Thinking adults know better.

  36. Regular
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:05 am | Permalink
    “BlueJay” tutors “Regular’s” math –

    ” 20% = 1/5th

    33%= 1/3rd”

    It’ll take a while for ol’ “Regular” to get back to ya. He’s got to tap the answer out in the dust with his hoof.
    —————–
    Yeah MonkeyHock, I read the details of the poll.

    The 20 percent is representing ‘Strong Republican’, not just Republican.

    The other 13 percent of those who identified Republican said they were moderately Republican.

    33 Percent = 1/3

    The Democratic Party poll numbers break down the same way.

  37. CapnAmerica
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    In America, most Americans can afford health insurance.

    Okay . . . and the ones that can’t are left to die in the street.

    Got it.

  38. ANTI
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:48 am | Permalink
    In America, most Americans can afford health insurance.

    Okay . . . and the ones that can’t are left to die in the street.

    Got it.
    ==============================

    Yeah, I suppose it they are too stupid to go to the hospital, go to one of the many charity organizations, shop around for insurance, or seek aid from the government which is already available.

    Are you people THAT helpless?

  39. ANTI
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    it=if

  40. CapnAmerica
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:57 am | Permalink

    Nikki White.

    Google her.

    She died of lupus that could have been controlled by any other health care system in the world, even Iraq’s.

    Just not ours.

    *****

    Hospitals are required to intervene if people present with acute life-threatening conditions.

    But they are not required to treat the underlying chronic conditions.

    That’s what happened to Nikki White. By the time her liver and kidneys failed, the hospital had to treat her. Unfortunately, that was too little and too late.

  41. CapnAmerica
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:58 am | Permalink

    Okay, back to work . . .

  42. ANTI
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:59 am | Permalink

    Sad story Capn’A.

    Why didn’t she pursue the many, many other options.

  43. ANTI
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 10:01 am | Permalink

    You know if I have pneumonia, live alone, and lock myself in my house and refuse to seek help…and die…Who’s fault is that?

  44. XXX
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    ANTI
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    Yeah, I suppose it they are too stupid to go to the hospital, go to one of the many charity organizations, shop around for insurance, or seek aid from the government which is already available.

    Are you people THAT helpless?
    ___________________________________

    Anti, could you please list the “many” charity organizations that provide health care? I went through this with a friend a couple of years ago and it seems that locally, Hunter Clinic is about the only place one can go for help.

  45. ANTI
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 10:05 am | Permalink

    Anti, could you please list the “many” charity organizations that provide health care? I went through this with a friend a couple of years ago and it seems that locally, Hunter Clinic is about the only place one can go for help.
    ==================================

    Here is a start:

    http://www.freemedicalcamps.com/vcamp.php?cityid=1429

    If I was sick, I would spend more than 5 seconds looking for help.

  46. ANTI
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    Even that evil corporation Walgreen’s is helping out;

    http://wichita.bizjournals.com/wichita/stories/2009/03/30/daily12.html

  47. ANTI
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    That’s 12 places in Wichita found after a brief search.

  48. Regular
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 10:13 am | Permalink

    Yes, Nikki White is a sad case, but it says more about a government run health care than private health care.

    But Ms. White didn’t go back. In July, she received a notice that she was being thrown off the Tennessee Medicaid program, known as TennCare, which launched an ambitious expansion in 1994 to cover people like her. Now, it was being scaled back because annual costs more than doubled over 10 years.

    ————————–
    This is what happens when Government rations health care. Ill people like Nikki White are excluded.

    Thanks Capn for pointing out the flaws of a government ran health care system.

  49. SolDevVB
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    Sry this is so long. Got it in an email. Good advice. I have not fact checked it. If you don’t believe it, check it for yourself.

    ________________________________________________________________

    Juval Aviv was the Israeli Agent upon whom the movie, ‘ Munich ‘ was
    based.. He was Golda Meir’s bodyguard – she appointed him to track
    down and bring to justice the Palestinian terrorists who took the
    Israeli athletes hostage and killed them during the Munich Olympic
    Games.

    In a lecture in New York City a few weeks ago, he shared information
    that EVERY American needs to know — but that our government has not
    yet shared with us.

    He predicted the London subway bombing on the Bill O’Reilly show on
    Fox News stating publicly that it would happen within a week. At the
    time, O’Reilly laughed and mocked him saying that in a week he wanted
    him back on the show. But, unfortunately, within a week the terrorist
    attack had occurred.

    Juval Aviv gave intelligence (via what he had gathered in Israel and
    the Middle East ) to the Bush Administration about 9/11 a month before
    it occurred. His report specifically said they would use planes as
    bombs and target high profile buildings and monuments. Congress has
    since hired him as a security consultant.

    **Now for his future predictions. He predicts the next terrorist
    attack on the U.S. Will occur within the next few months.

    Forget hijacking airplanes, because he says terrorists will NEVER try
    and hijack a plane again as they know the people onboard will never go
    down quietly again. Aviv believes our airport security is a joke –
    that we have been reactionary rather than proactive in developing
    strategies that are truly effective.

    For example:

    1) Our airport technology is outdated. We look for metal, and the new
    explosives are made of plastic.

    2) He talked about how some idiot tried to light his shoe on fire.
    Because of that, now everyone has to take off their shoes. A group of
    idiots tried to bring aboard liquid explosives. Now we can’t bring l
    iquids on board. He says he’s waiting for some suicidal maniac to pour
    liquid explosive on his underwear; at which point, security will have
    us all traveling naked! Every strategy we have is reactionary.

    3) We only focus on security when people are heading to the gates.
    Aviv says that if a terrorist attack targets airports in the future,
    they will target busy times on the front end of the airport when/where
    people are checking in. It would be easy for someone to take two
    suitcases of explosives, walk up to a busy check-in line, ask a person
    next to them to watch their bags for a minute while they run to the
    restroom and then detonate the bags BEFORE security even gets
    involved. In Israel , security checks bags BEFORE people can even
    ENTER the airport.

    Aviv says the next terrorist attack here in America is imminent and
    will involve suicide bombers and non-suicide bombers in places where
    large groups of people congregate. (I. E., Disneyland, Las Vegas
    casinos, big cities New York, San Francisco, Chicago, etc.) and that
    it will also include shopping malls, subways in rush hour, train
    stations, etc., as well as rural America this time ( Wyoming , Montana
    , etc.).

    The attack will be characterized by simultaneous detonations around
    the country (terrorists like big impact), involving at least 5-8
    cities, including rural areas.

    Aviv says terrorists won’t need to use suicide bombers in many of the
    larger cities, because at places like the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, they
    can simply valet park a car loaded with explosives and walk away.

    Aviv says all of the above is well known in intelligence circles, but
    that our U. S. Government does not want to ‘alarm American citizens’
    with the facts. The world is quickly going to become ‘a different
    place’, and issues like ‘global warming’ and political correctness
    will become totally irrelevant.

    On an encouraging note, he says that Americans don’t have to be
    concerned about being nuked. Aviv says the terrorists who want to
    destroy America will not use sophisticated weapons. They like to use
    suicide as a front-line approach. It’s cheap, it’s easy, it’s
    effective; and they have an infinite abundance of young militants more
    than willing to ‘meet their destiny’.

    He also says the next level of terrorists, over which America should
    be most concerned, will not be coming from abroad. But will be,
    instead, ‘homegrown’ – having attended and been educated in our own
    schools and universities right here in the U. S. He says to look for
    ’students’ who frequently travel back and forth to the Middle East .
    These young terrorists will be most dangerous because they will know
    our language and will fully understand the habits of Americans; but
    that we Americans won’t know/understand a thing about them.

    Aviv says that, as a people, Americans are unaware and uneducated
    about the terrorist threats we will, inevitably, face. America still
    has only have a handful of Arabic and Farsi speaking people in our
    intelligence networks and Aviv says it is critical that we change that
    fact SOON.

    So, what can America do to protect itself? >From an intelligence
    perspective, Aviv says the U.S. needs to stop relying on satellites
    and technology for intelligence. We need to, instead, follow Israel
    ’s, Ireland ’s and England ’s hands-on examples of human intelligence,
    both from an infiltration perspective as well as to trust ‘aware’
    citizens to help. We need to engage and educate ourselves as citizens;
    however, our U. S. government continues to treat us, its citizens,
    ‘like babies’. Our government thinks we ‘can’t handle the truth’ and
    are concerned that we’ll panic if we understand the realities of
    terrorism. Aviv says this is a deadly mistake.

    Aviv recently created/executed a security test for our Congress, by
    placing an empty briefcase in five well-traveled spots in five major
    cities. The results? Not one person called 911 or sought a policeman
    to check it out…in fact, in Chicago, someone tried to steal the
    briefcase!

    In comparison, Aviv says that citizens of Israel are so well ‘trained’
    that an unattended bag or package would be reported in seconds by
    citizen(s) who know to publicly shout, ‘Unattended Bag!’ The area
    would be quickly & calmly cleared by the citizens themselves… But,
    unfortunately, America hasn’t been yet ‘hurt enough’ by terrorism for
    their government to fully understand the need to educate its citizens
    or for the government to understand that it’s their citizens who are,
    inevitably, the best first-line of defense against terrorism.

    Aviv also was concerned about the high number of children here in
    America who were in preschool and kindergarten after 9/11, who were
    ‘lost’ without parents being able to pick them up, and about our
    schools that had no plan in place to best care for the students until
    parents could get there. (In New York City , this was days, in some
    cases!)

    He stresses the importance of having a plan, that’s agreed upon within
    your family, to respond to in the event of a terrorist emergency. He
    urges parents to contact their children’s schools and demand that the
    schools, too, develop plans of actions, as they do in Israel .

    Does your family know what to do if you can’t contact one another by
    phone? Where would you gather in an emergency? He says we should all
    have a plan that is easy enough for even our youngest children to
    remember and follow.

    Aviv says that the U. S. government has in force a plan that, in the
    event of another terrorist attack, will immediately cut-off EVERYONE’s
    ability to use cell phones, blackberries, etc., as this is the
    preferred communication source used by terrorists and is often the way
    that their bombs are detonated.

    How will you communicate with your loved ones in the event you cannot
    speak? You need to have a plan.

  50. Posted October 21, 2009 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    I wonder what conservative Oklahoman’s think of spending over a million tax dollars every four years to post the abortion recipient’s personal information on the web…

  51. sursum
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    From the G&M. Bush 43 has just made his 3rd appearance in that land of the workers paradise, also know as that socialists cancer on our northern border. And hundreds of people paid to listen to him discuss topics around democracy and foreign policy, as they also did for Connie Rice. He even had “discussion forum” with Bill Clinton there a few months ago. So why is it he speaks elsewhere but hasn’t made a peep at home, is it the tree vs. forest syndrome? And why does he get such a warm welcome outside these borders?

  52. Heckler
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    CDC told states in July to stop testing for Pig Flu.

    Pig Flu cases overstated? http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/21/cbsnews_investigates/main5404829.shtml

    WTF Over.

  53. Regular
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    Louis Farrakhan: H1N1 Vaccine Developed to Kill People

    Fox News

    Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan said the H1N1 flu vaccine was developed to kill people, UPI reported.

    “The Earth can’t take 6.5 billion people. We just can’t feed that many. So what are you going to do? Kill as many as you can,” Farrakhan reportedly said during an event in Memphis, Tenn. “We have to develop a science that kills them and makes it look as though they died from some disease.”

    The 76-year-old added that many wise people won’t take the vaccine, according to UPI.

    His comments were made during an event to observe the group’s Holy Day of Atonement, and also marked the 14th anniversary of the Million Man March in Washington.

    =======================
    Yeah…

    He’s all yours Libs…

    Perhaps Farrakhan and Van Jones can get together with the 911Truthers and discuss UFO’s.

  54. ANTI
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    U.N. insanity. So stupid, I’m guessing it is by design.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568869,00.html

  55. Regular
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    980-Pound Man Needs ‘Life-Saving’ Operation

    Fox News

    Doctors blame a British man’s 20,000-calorie a day diet for causing him to balloon up to a whopping 980-pounds and leaving him in need of a life-saving operation.

    Paul Mason, 48, needs a nearly $33,000 life-saving operation after a compulsive eating disorder left him “super-obese.”

    Mason scoffs three family-sized takeout meals a night and wolfs down roasts like snacks.

    He has spent much of the past eight years in bed at his home in Ipswich in Suffolk, England.

    His health care costs taxpayers an estimated $165,000 a year.

    And now he needs drastic stomach surgery to curb his eating and keep him alive, which the country’s National Health Services will have to foot the bill for.

    Mason will travel in a 5-ton ambulance specially built for obese people at a cost of $148,000 to get the surgery.

    We are exploring all options for transporting him from his home to hospital but we have now ruled out an airlift.”

    Mason’s girth may distinguish him as the world’s fattest man. The previous world’s fattest man, Manuel Uribe, once weighed an unbelievable 1,230 pounds, but has lost more than 500 pounds after following a specially designed, low-carb diet.

    =============================
    Health care by the pound:

    $242.65 per pound each year to keep the Fat man alive.

    $453.33 per day costs to the British

    Perhaps building a special clinic around the fat man would be more economical?

  56. Phantom
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    11% somewhat repub., is that equivalent to being somewhat deranged?

  57. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    donndublin is stuck back in Monday.

    http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/archives/182503.asp

  58. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    Also . . .
    Mohawk Fine Papers Resigns from U.S. Chamber of Commerce Over Climate Policy‘

    http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS203152+20-Oct-2009+PRN20091020

  59. XXX
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    ANTI
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 11:38 am | Permalink
    U.N. insanity. So stupid, I’m guessing it is by design.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568869,00.html
    __________________________

    That made my head hurt.

  60. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    US Chamber’s Long History of Killing Clean Energy Policy

    http://www.desmogblog.com/us-chambers-long-history-killing-clean-energy-policy

  61. ANTI
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    Well, this should chap your ass Cosmos;

    New drilling off north Alaska gets federal OK

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33403870/ns/us_news-environment/

  62. ANTI
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    I guess Obama is a “drill baby, drill!” kinda guy.

  63. ANTI
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    “We are God’s partners in matters of life and death.”- Barack Obama

    “The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings, and INEFFICIENCIES to our health care system.”
    - Barack Obama

  64. American_Way
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    Now here is an example of what happens when government tries to do the right thing and passes laws to help people.

    But the law goes wrong. People get hurt. Poor People get hurt

    So what’s government to do? Pass more bad laws to cover their first bad law:

    Congress and the Prez were so proud of whipping up on the evil rich credit card companies.

    Now, the impact and results of government intervention are already rearing it’s ugly truth – forcing Congress to intervene AGAIN because of the reaction to their FIRST intervention. Sure aren’t helping them poor people are they!

    Also NEW SLANG: “Underbanked” politcally correct word for irresponsible
    people.

    ,b>Democrats to Consider Credit Options for ‘Underbanked’ Americans
    Wednesday, October 21, 2009
    By Susan Jones, Senior Editor

    On Friday, Rep. Barney Frank, chairman of the House
    Financial Services Committee, will join FDIC Vice Chairman Marty Gruenberg and others in a discussion of “new, safe and affordable credit options for America’s underbanked.”

    The policy discussion on Capitol Hill comes as banks – reacting to new credit card rules imposed by Democrats – start pulling the plastic from
    current credit-card holders, a move that is sure to lead to even more “underbanked” Americans.

    Press reports note that Citibank recently canceled a number of credit card accounts affiliated with the Shell, ExxonMobil, Citgo and Phillips
    66-Conoco oil companies.

    Citibank also has notified some customers that interest rates on unpaid balances are going up – to a whopping 29.99 percent APR, effective Nov.
    30.
    As the new law requires, customers have been notified that they may reject the change to their accounts, in which case their accounts are
    closed immediately and they may continue paying off their balances at current rates over five years.

    And libs get what they asked for

  65. ANTI
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 4:53 pm | Permalink

    Government and industry officials estimate as many as 800 billion barrels of oil — enough to displace oil imports for 100 years — is locked in sedimentary rock in parts of Colorado, Utah and Wyoming.
    -MSNBC

    This doesn’t count the Gulf of Mexico and the recently opened N. Alaska.

    What fuqin’ oil shortage?

  66. ANTI
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    Of course Obama is cutting those leases to 1/8th of their original size. Obama wants to keep us dependent on foreign oil.

  67. ANTI
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    Are there any more American industries that you can damage, Mr. Obama?

  68. American_Way
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    Guess we will hear more on this now that the state leader copped a plea with promises to reveal more crime by ACORN.

    A high-ranking official at the taxpayer-funded leftist group that
    conducts fraudulent voter registration drives has pleaded guilty to
    conspiracy for organizing a scheme that illegally paid workers to
    register new voters.

    As a Nevada field director for the Association of Community
    Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), Christopher Edwards paid
    canvassers-many of them “lazy crack heads”-to register new voters for
    the 2008 presidential election. He also set illegal quotas of at least
    20 voters a day for canvassers to keep their job and offered an
    additional $5 for registering 21 or more.

    ACORN’s shady quota system is illegal in Nevada as well as most states
    and the Chicago-based community group with strong ties to President
    Obama faces criminal charges across the nation. As part of Edwards’
    guilty plea, he is cooperating with authorities and will testify against
    several high-ranking ACORN regional officials.

    His testimony could strengthen other pending criminal cases against the
    group and its crooked method of recruiting new voters in low-income,
    “underserved” communities. For its corrupt 2008 drives alone, ACORN
    faces criminal charges in Florida, New Mexico and Pennsylvania. In an
    effort to dismiss the charges in Pennsylvania, the group actually filed
    a federal lawsuit claiming that the state anti-quota law it violated
    unconstitutionally interferes with important political activity.

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2009/aug/acorn-director-pleads-guilty

  69. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    ANTI posted October 21, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Government and industry officials estimate as many as 800 billion barrels of oil — enough to displace oil imports for 100 years — is locked in sedimentary rock in parts of Colorado, Utah and Wyoming.
    -MSNBC

    This doesn’t count the Gulf of Mexico and the recently opened N. Alaska.

    What fuqin’ oil shortage?
    ——————————-

    ANTI wants to pay huge amounts of money, to displace Middle-East oil that costs only a few dollars a barrel to produce.

    How much do you want to pay for that cheap M-E oil, ANTI? $100 a barrel? $150 a barrel? $200 a barrel? More?

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33413729/
    But no company has conclusively shown an economical way of extracting the waxy petroleum, called kerogen, on a large scale.

  70. Regular
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    The Canadians do pretty well extracting oil from rock and sand. Canada the top foreign supplier of crude to the U.S.

  71. JimJohnson
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 5:36 pm | Permalink

    Armed Robberies Everywhere

    A shooting during an armed robbery Monday night at a Highland Park liquor store left one person dead and capped a Wild West-type of day in the capital city.

    Five armed robberies had been recorded by 11 p.m., four to businesses and one to an
    individual. Additionally, a failed robbery attempt took place at a payday loan business on the south side of Topeka.

    Earlier Monday, four other robberies to businesses were reported.

    – The first robbery of the day took place about 10:30 a.m. at the Akin’s Natural Food Market, 2913 S.W. 29th, in the Brookwood Shopping Center.

    – Police were sent about two hours later to the EZ Payday Advance store, 2620 S.W. 6th, after it had been robbed at gunpoint at 12:30 p.m.

    – A man was robbed at gunpoint about 4 p.m. outside the Regency Inn and Suites motel, 3802 S.W. Topeka Blvd.

    – The Econ-O-Wash laundromat, 3156 S.E. 6th in the Deer Creek Shopping Center, was held up about 4:15 p.m.

    – An attempted robbery was reported about 5:30 p.m. at the Advance America Cash Advance store, 3258 S.W. Topeka Blvd. That attempt was thwarted when the would-be robber found the doors to the business were locked. Employees inside the business told police the man said something to them and resembled the person who robbed the business on Thursday.

    The city has seen a rash of armed robberies in recent weeks, including at another pay-day cash advance business near S.W. 21st and Randolph on Oct. 12 and at a gas station at S.W. 29th and Randolph on Thursday — about a block from the Akin’s food store that was held up Monday.

    http://cjonline.com/news/local/2009-10-19/person_shot_in_robbery_dies

    It’s nice to know that law-abiding people can obtain a gun carry permit, since the criminals sure as he11 carry.

  72. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 5:37 pm | Permalink

    ANTI posted October 21, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Well, this should chap your ass Cosmos;
    ———————-

    Actually, I enjoy laughing at people like ANTI, who seem to believe that some “exploratory” drilling will solve the puny amount of oil being delivered by the Trans Alaska pipeline.

    America could “produce” much more oil by simply increasing our energy efficiency. . . and it’d be cheaper, faster, cleaner, guaranteed, and more reliable than more drilling.

    “drill baby, drill!” = Prudhoe Bay and other domestic sources running dry.

  73. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33413729/
    But no company has conclusively shown an economical way of extracting the waxy petroleum, called kerogen, on a large scale.

  74. JimJohnson
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    Prior robbery at Liquor store was deterred by store employee who pulled a gun on a would-be robber.

    http://cjonline.com/news/local/2009-10-20/owner_shares_details_of_shooting#

    In July 2007, a Cormier Liquor store employee, identified in a story as Jim Cormier, pulled his own gun when threatened and the would-be robber fled. Cormier told police a man entered the store carrying a black gym bag from which he began to pull a handgun. The employee then displayed his own handgun, causing the would-be robber to run from the store into the alley.

  75. JimJohnson
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    Another payday store robbed

    Created October 20, 2009 at 1:45pm

    Updated October 20, 2009 at 1:56pm
    Police are investigating another armed robbery on Tuesday, this one to the EZ Payday Advance store at 2613 S.W. 21st.

    The same store was reported robbed on Oct. 12.

    Tuesday’s hold-up comes a day after five armed robberies in the capital city, including one to another payday advance store at S.W. 6th and MacVicar.

    Officers were sent at 1:15 p.m. Tuesday to the EZ Payday Advance store, which is located on the east end of a shopping center near S.W. 21st and Randolph.

    http://cjonline.com/news/local/2009-10-20/another_payday_store_robbed

  76. JimJohnson
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    Gunman holds up pizza driver

    The attempted robbery of a pizza delivery driver on Tuesday evening marked the second hold up of the day and the eighth incident since Monday morning.

    Topeka police said a female driver in the parking lot of Papa John’s Pizza, 1700 S.W. Washburn, was approached at 6:41 p.m. by a man with a gun who demanded her money. Investigators at the scene said the driver told the gunman she didn’t have anything to give him. He then fled the area on foot, police said.

    The incident is follows an armed robbery about 1:15 p.m. at the EZ Payday Advance store, 2613 S.W. 21st.

    Monday’s robberies included hold ups at a natural food grocery store, a payday loan store, a laundromat and a liquor, the last of which resulted in a fatal shooting. One person was reported robbed Monday at a south-side motel. An attempted robbery on Monday evening also was reported at a payday loan business in South Topeka.

    http://cjonline.com/news/local/2009-10-20/gunman_holds_up_pizza_driver

  77. JimJohnson
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    Man stabbed during robbery

    Created October 20, 2009 at 9:11pm

    Updated October 21, 2009 at 12:21am
    A traffic stop on Tuesday night turned up a stabbing victim who told police he was injured earlier in the evening during an apparent robbery outside the Sasnak North gentleman’s club, police said.

    Topeka police Sgt. Kristen Hren said an officer stopping a green Pontiac Grand Am about 8 p.m. at N.W. Topeka and Gordon discovered the wounded man inside the vehicle. Police said the victim, who is in his 30s, was transported to Stormont-Vail Regional Health Center by American Medical Response ambulance with a wound to his chest.

    Hren said the victim told police he was outside the club, 1834 N.W. Topeka Blvd., earlier in the evening when he was approached by three black men dressed in black who asked him for money.

    “One of them stuck him in the chest with what he assumes was a knife,” Hren said.

    http://cjonline.com/news/local/2009-10-20/man_stabbed_during_robbery

  78. JimJohnson
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

    Person robbed, appears unrelated

    Updated October 21, 2009 at 9:51am
    An armed robbery that occurred Tuesday evening to an individual at a Topeka Papa John’s appears to be unrelated to the latest string of robberies in the capital city, said Topeka police spokeswoman Kristen Veverka.

    The robbery occurred about 6:40 p.m. at 1700 S.W. Washburn. The robber was described as a white male, possibly in his teens, wearing a blue hooded sweatshirt, blue shorts, blue bandana and armed with a handgun.

    Veverka said the robber’s description does not match the description of a robber being sought in holdups that occurred the past two days.

    http://cjonline.com/news/local/2009-10-21/person_robbed_appears_unrelated

  79. JimJohnson
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    When 3 robbers attaack you, it would be prudent to be legally carrying a gun with a regular capacity magazine with a 12 to 19 round capacity.

    Or you can just hope you get a chance to dial 911 and pray you will be ok waiting around for several minutes for the police to arrive.

  80. Regular
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 6:22 pm | Permalink

    conceal and carry, when seconds count and the police are minutes away…

  81. donndublin
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

    cosmos_originally
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 12:32 pm | Permalink
    donndublin is stuck back in Monday.

    http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/archives/182503.asp
    ______________

    Mo, At least I’m in this century. Most of your info comes from the 20th century.

    Don’t worry little man. Go back to you Maoist sources and try to find something more relevant.

    There’s a an old Scotish word for people like you: gowanburryorhad

  82. donndublin
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

    BEIJING, Oct 21 (Reuters) – Chinese President Hu Jintao has told his U.S. counterpart Barack Obama that closer cooperation on fighting climate change could help improve overall ties between the world’s top two greenhouse gas polluters….

    In 2008, fast-growing China’s emissions of carbon dioxide reached 6.8 billion tonnes, an increase of 178 percent over 1990 levels, according to the IWR, a German energy institute. U.S. emissions rose 17 percent to 6.4 billion tonnes.

    http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/PEK254962.htm
    ————-

    AGW alarmists like to make ‘projections” and wave their arms crying that the sky is falling.

    Here’s a “projection” for them. At the rate listed above, in 10 years China will emit more than twice the amount of the U.S.

    MO loves his Mao.

  83. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    donndublin is unable to understand LLGHG’s.

    http://www.wri.org/publication/content/7811

  84. donndublin
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    Global 2008 CO2 emissions rose 2 pct-German institute
    Global carbon dioxide emissions in 2008 rose 1.94 percent year-on-year to 31.5 billion tonnes, German renewable energy industry institute IWR said on Monday, based on official information and its own research.
    thttp://www.blogrunner.com/snapshot/D/3/1/global_2008_co2_emissions_rose_2_pctgerman_institute/
    ————

    Here’s more “projections” for the warmers.

    China had 21.5% of the world’s emissions last year. At their current rate of increase, in ten years it will be nearly 40%.

    On the other hand the U.S. rate of increase (1.8%) is less than that or the world as a whole (1.9%).

  85. Regular
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    cosmos references yet another biased Web site, World Resource Instituted, head by a former IPCC chair, Dr Pachauri, an economist.

    Yeah, those guys know a lot about greenhouse gases and which countries emit the most (rolls eyes.)

  86. george
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

    Emissions crap again, don’t fly or go on the water, you must reduce to save the world from the politicians.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601100&sid=aEs.JZVa9xp8

  87. Posted October 21, 2009 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    Hoo HOO!

    The teabaggers are coming to Wichita.

    Yes, I know, some of the fringe crowd of whackaloons call this place home. But THIS time the tea party tour is riding into town on their busload of traveling moonbats.

    Off to find a link. They’re having their teabagging at Lawrence big daddy DuMont stadium. I can hardly wait to go wave a “public health care now” sign!

  88. Posted October 21, 2009 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    Ah it is November 4th when the busload of paid protesters rolls into doodah.

    http://www.teapartyexpress.org/

  89. Boxlock20
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    Hey BlueJay,
    How long before you admit Obama was One Big Ass Mistake America.

    And when will you figure out that Fairness isn’t giving working peoples money to lazy people like yourself.

  90. Daniel
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    Boxlock20
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    Hey BlueJay,
    How long before you admit Obama was One Big Ass Mistake America.
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==

    Oh my! Aren’t you the clever one?!?!

    Did you see that on Glenn Beck?

  91. Daniel
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    #
    BlueJay
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    Hoo HOO!

    The teabaggers are coming to Wichita.

    I can hardly wait to go wave a “public health care now” sign!
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

    I’ll be the guy selling eggs, rotting produce, and past-expiration-date dairy products out of the back of my truck.

    Sometimes, I just can’t suppress my inner-capitalist.

    Plus, they’ll be here on the one year anniversary of Regular’s neurological meltdown….how apropos.

  92. george
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    The dems are doing everything they can to pass a health bill at everyone’s expense. They can’t leave well enough alone. Playing the insurance industry like a fiddle.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091022/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_overhaul

  93. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 10:48 pm | Permalink

    Poor old donndublin is unable to understand LLGHG’s.

  94. donndublin
    Posted October 22, 2009 at 8:06 am | Permalink

    cosmos_originally
    Posted October 21, 2009 at 10:48 pm | Permalink
    Poor old donndublin is unable to understand LLGHG’s.
    ———-
    Mo has nothing to say so he repeats himself AGAIN.

    Poor Mo dosen’t care that if the U.S. were to reduce it’s emissions to zero, China will more than make up the difference. He want’s the U.S. to be a third world country so his beloved China can dominate the world.

    Mo is a good little Maoist.

  95. donndublin
    Posted October 22, 2009 at 9:08 am | Permalink

    Maybe Mo would like to have 70 million Americans murdered to reduce the carbon footprint, just like his beloved Moa.

  96. donndublin
    Posted October 22, 2009 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    Moa = Mao

    Sorry if affended your leader CosMao.

  97. donndublin
    Posted October 22, 2009 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    http://acmg.seas.harvard.edu/people/faculty/mbm/Mike_2009_Frontiers.pdf

    The US was responsible for 21% of 2004 global emissions of CO2: 43.9% from oil, 35.7% from coal, with 19.5% from natural gas. China with 17.3% of the global total ranked number two in 2004 but has now surpassed the US. Coal accounted for 98.7% of Chinese emissions in 1950 with mnimal contributions from either oil or gas. Oil
    is now responsible for 17% of emissions from China with the contribution from coal dropping to 71.9% despite rapid growth in consumption of both fuels in the interim.

    (UPDATE: In 2009 China is now responsible for 21.8% and the U.S. is 20.3% of the world’s emissions. Source -IWR, a German energy institute )

    Brazil is currently the world’s largest producer of ethanol (the US is number 2),produced in this case using sugar cane rather than corn. Some 4 billion gallons were produced in 2004 in Brazil as compared to 3.4 billion gallons in the US….

    A more promising option involves the possibility that ethanol could be produced using cellulose, the ubiquitous component of indigestible grass and wood. Optimists foresee a future where currently idle land could be devoted toultivation of fast growing grasses (prairie grasses for example) and trees (poplars and willows are mentioned) that could be harvested to produce cellulose to feed a new generation of ethanol factories capable of supplanting as much as 50% of current gasoline use in the US with important
    savings in terms of emission of greenhouse gases – a great, new, domestically based,energy industry….

    oil, deployed mainly in the transportation sector, accounts for approximately 44% of US emissions of CO2. The source of CO2 from oil use in China is much less than in the US but growing rapidly as China increases the scale of its automobile and truck fleets. It is worth noting in this context that for the first time in 2008 more automobiles were produced in China that were produced in the US….

    For countries with extensive domestic supplies of natural gas (the US falls into this category, China does not), natural gas offers an attractive alternative to the use of oil-based fuels in the transportation sector (gasoline and diesel for example)….

    We have been engaged for the past several years with our group at Harvard University in an assessment of the potential for wind to replace fossil fuels as a major source of electricity…

    China now ranks number 4 in the world in terms of installed wind capacity, trailing only Spain, Germany and the US (the US now ranks number 1).