Open thread 10/17

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  1. JWink
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 6:40 am | Permalink

    Several years ago, I proposed a sparkling, world class, bowling emporium with all the bells and whistles be built near the Arkansas River in downtown Wichita. Done right, this would have brought visitors from all over the world to Wichita and the banks of the Arkansas River.

    But the wonderful opportunity was lost.

    My thought was a wonderful bowling emporium would have been an extremely popular, income producing alternative to the now failed idea of the half billion dollar sales tax funded downtown white elephant arena to be used as a home court by perhaps 30 over the hill ice hockey players.

    Of course, Wichita went the wrong direction and is building the albatross downtown Chernobyl look-alike, downtown arena.

    Now this morning’s Wichita Eagle reports a bowling emporium is being proposed in a flood zone on the west side of Wichita not far from the airport to provide an anchor for a surrounding strip shopping center. The only advantage of this location is that out of town bowling participants can get to Wichita’s airport to get of Wichita in a hurry.

    As usual, Wichita gets it backward again.

  2. American_Way
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 7:12 am | Permalink

    THE COW AND THE ICE CREAM
    ONE OF THE BEST EXPLANATIONS
    OF WHY OBAMA WON THE ELECTION

    –From a teacher in the Nashville area
    “We are worried about ‘the cow’ when it is all about the ‘Ice Cream.’ The most eye-opening civics lesson I ever had was while teaching third grade this year…

    The presidential election was heating up and some of the
    children showed an interest. I decided we would have an election for a class president.
    We would choose our nominees. They would make a campaign speech and the class would vote. To simplify the process, candidates were nominated by other class members. We discussed what kinds of characteristics these students should
    have. We got many nominations and from those, Jamie and Olivia were picked to run for the top spot. The class had done a great job in their selections. Both candidates were good kids. I thought Jamie might have an advantage because he got lots of parental support. I had never seen Olivia’s mother. The day arrived when they were to make their speeches.

    Jamie went first. He had specific ideas about how to make our class a better place. He ended by promising to do his very best. Everyone applauded and he sat down.

    Now is was Olivia’s turn to speak. Her speech was concise. She said, “If you will vote for me, I will give you ice cream.” She sat down. The class went wild. “Yes! Yes! We want ice cream.” She surely would say more. She did not have to. A discussion followed. How did she plan to pay for the ice cream? She wasn’t sure.

    Would her parents buy it or would the class pay for it. She didn’t know. The class really didn’t care.

    All they were thinking about was ice cream. Jamie was forgotten. Olivia won by a landslide.
    Every time Barack Obama opened his mouth he offered ice cream and 52 percent of the people reacted
    like nine year olds. They want ice cream. The other 48 percent know they’re going to have to feed the cow and clean up the mess.” This is the ice cream Obama promised us!

    And like a child when they don’t get their way, they whine.

    Remember, the government cannot give anything to anyone — that they have not first taken away from
    someone else.

  3. Posted October 17, 2009 at 7:12 am | Permalink

    I dunno, “JWink” –

    I only compete in overhand bowling competitions. Too much testosterone or something.

    But I think your idea had/has merit.

    Bowling is really the kind of thing that appeals to people who like that kind of thing. And it’s a significant niche audience.

    Maybe they could transform Century II into a round bowling center. It might be kinda cool to look at.

    Not as impressive as a visual, but just as possible, is transforming the InTrust Arena into the epicenter of bowling in America. Annual big-time tournaments, local midnight bowling, league play with food and beer service….

    Wichita is already the World Capital of overweight balding guys in polyester shirts with their names embroidered. Wichita should leverage its natural advantages.

  4. American_Way
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 7:30 am | Permalink

    Riddle of the Day:

    Hillary, Biden and Obama were on a donkey, at the edge of a cliff.

    The donkey got spooked and jumped off the cliff..
    Who was saved?

  5. American_Way
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 8:00 am | Permalink

    We want our FREE ICE CREAM!!!

    The number of operations cancelled rose for the second year in a row -
    equating to 63,000 procedures called off at the last minute for
    non-clinical reasons.

    However a higher proportion are now being rearranged within 28 days of
    the original appointment, and the figure also reflects the much higher
    number of people now receiving treatment.

    Waiting times for treatment have fallen to 18 weeks or less this year,
    one of the achievements highlighted by the regulator.

    It also noted that 98% of the 19 million patients who attended A&E
    waited less than four hours, while rates of the infections Clostridium
    difficile and MRSA had both fallen by about a third – despite hospitals
    themselves reporting failings in hygeine.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8307300.stm

  6. American_Way
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 8:01 am | Permalink

    You owe us FREE ICE CREAM!!!

    One in eight British Hospitals n the NHS trusts has been told it must
    urgently improve the care it provides, by a new regulator publishing
    ratings on England’s 392 trusts.

    The assessments by the Care Quality Commission show a drop in the number
    of hospitals meeting basic standards in areas such as hygiene and
    safety.

    But it also said more services than ever could be rated good or
    excellent.

    From April, the CQC will gain new powers to be able to shut any of the 47 underachieving trusts down.

    BBC

  7. American_Way
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 8:16 am | Permalink

    Folks I cannot make this stuff up!!!

    Los Angeles (AP) – A surprising number of frail, elderly Americans in nursing homes are suffering from futile care at the end of their lives, two new federally funded studies reveal.

    One found that putting nursing home residents with failing kidneys on dialysis didn’t improve their quality of life and may even push them into further decline. The other showed many with advanced dementia will die within six months and perhaps should have hospice care instead of aggressive treatment.

    Medical experts say the new research emphasizes the need for doctors, caregivers and families to consider making the feeble elderly who are near death comfortable rather than treating them as if a cure were possible — more like the palliative care given to terminally ill cancer patients.

    That’s when that FREE ICE CREAM will melt.

  8. American_Way
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 8:20 am | Permalink

    And with all the trial balloon articles in the media recently about fat people and smokers should be paying higher insurance premiums, I’m quite certain that the final social healthcare doctrine will require them to not only pay more – but cut them off from life saving treatment because of their poor lifestyle decisions.

  9. Raptor
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:03 am | Permalink

    Am…your FREE ICE CREAM analogy makes perfect sense. It must be why the nobel prize was given. After all…bho’s name was placed in nomination on February 1…only ELEVEN DAYS after he took office.

    promising FREE ICE CREAM really works…for a while.

  10. outlander
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:16 am | Permalink

    The Race Card, Football and Me
    My critics would have you believe no conservative meets NFL ’standards.’

    By RUSH LIMBAUGH

    David Checketts, an investor and owner of sports teams, approached me in late May about investing in the St. Louis Rams football franchise. As a football fan, I was intrigued. I invited him to my home where we discussed it further. Even after informing him that some people might try to make an issue of my participation, Mr. Checketts said he didn’t much care. I accepted his offer.

    It didn’t take long before my name was selectively leaked to the media as part of the Checketts investment group. Shortly thereafter, the media elicited comments from the likes of Al Sharpton. In 1998 Mr. Sharpton was found guilty of defamation and ordered to pay $65,000 for falsely accusing a New York prosecutor of rape in the 1987 Tawana Brawley case. He also played a leading role in the 1991 Crown Heights riot (he called neighborhood Jews “diamond merchants”) and 1995 Freddie’s Fashion Mart riot.

    Not to be outdone, Jesse Jackson, whose history includes anti-Semitic speech (in 1984 he referred to Jews as “Hymies” and to New York City as “Hymietown” in a Washington Post interview) chimed in. He found me unfit to be associated with the NFL. I was too divisive and worse. I was accused of once supporting slavery and having praised Martin Luther King Jr.’s murderer, James Earl Ray.

    Next came writers in the sports world, like the Washington Post’s Michael Wilbon. He wrote this gem earlier this week: “I’m not going to try and give specific examples of things Limbaugh has said over the years because I screwed up already doing that, repeating a quote attributed to Limbaugh (about slavery) which he has told me he simply did not say and does not reflect his feelings. I take him at his word. . . . ”

    Mr. Wilbon wasn’t alone. Numerous sportswriters, CNN, MSNBC, among others, falsely attributed to me statements I had never made. Their sources, as best I can tell, were Wikipedia and each other. But the Wikipedia post was based on a fabrication printed in a book that also lacked any citation to an actual source.

    I never said I supported slavery and I never praised James Earl Ray. How sick would that be? Just as sick as those who would use such outrageous slanders against me or anyone else who never even thought such things. Mr. Wilbon refuses to take responsibility for his poison pen, writing instead that he will take my word that I did not make these statements; others, like Rick Sanchez of CNN, essentially used the same sleight-of-hand.

    The sports media elicited comments from a handful of players, none of whom I can recall ever meeting. Among other things, at least one said he would never play for a team I was involved in given my racial views. My racial views? You mean, my belief in a colorblind society where every individual is treated as a precious human being without regard to his race? Where football players should earn as much as they can and keep as much as they can, regardless of race? Those controversial racial views?

    The NFL players union boss, DeMaurice Smith, jumped in. A Washington criminal defense lawyer, Democratic Party supporter and Barack Obama donor, he sent a much publicized email to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell saying that it was important for the league to reject discrimination and hatred.

    When Mr. Goodell was asked about me, he suggested that my 2003 comment criticizing the media’s coverage of Donovan McNabb—in which I said the media was cheerleading Mr. McNabb because they wanted a successful black quarterback—fell short of the NFL’s “high standard.” High standard? Half a decade later, the media would behave the same way about the presidential candidacy of Mr. Obama.

    Having brought me into his group, Mr. Checketts now wanted a way out. He asked me to resign. I told him no way. I had done nothing wrong. I had not uttered the words these people were putting in my mouth. And I would not bow to their libels and pressure. He would have to drop me from the group. A few days later, he did.

    As I explained on my radio show, this spectacle is bigger than I am on several levels. There is a contempt in the news business, including the sportswriter community, for conservatives that reflects the blind hatred espoused by Messrs. Sharpton and Jackson. “Racism” is too often their sledgehammer. And it is being used to try to keep citizens who don’t share the left’s agenda from participating in the full array of opportunities this nation otherwise affords each of us. It was on display many years ago in an effort to smear Clarence Thomas with racist stereotypes and keep him off the Supreme Court. More recently, it was employed against patriotic citizens who attended town-hall meetings and tea-party protests.

    These intimidation tactics are working and spreading, and they are a cancer on our society.

    Mr. Limbaugh is a nationally syndicated talk radio host.

  11. george
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:23 am | Permalink

    ObamaCare, doesn’t he realize a great number of people don’t want it. There is no such thing as health care reform to a poliitican without screwing up people lives.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33354780/ns/politics-health_care_reform/

  12. HLP
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/10/the_search_for_the_wikipedia_l.html

    The smear campaign against Limbaugh linked to a NYC law firm.

  13. HLP
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/10/limbaugh_targeted_by_obama_off.html

    The smear campaign against Limbaugh has an Obama connection.

  14. HLP
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:34 am | Permalink

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704322004574475681181683914.html

    The NFL caves to political pressure in the Limbaugh smear campaign.

  15. Raptor
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:35 am | Permalink

    based on previous exchanges, I would like to present a summary of a typical blog exchange..

    Raptor: good morning

    chas: $^)#$)%#@$ LIAR!!!

    Regular: good morning

    Daniel: it is BUSH’s FAULT

    bj: You are REQUIRED to watch a television show because in my arrogance I deem it REQUIRED.

  16. Freebird1971
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:38 am | Permalink

    Raptor,
    Excellent observation,however you could possibly incurr the wrath of the Supreme Blog Ruler,you might get demoted to a lower tier blogger

  17. Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:39 am | Permalink

    Hey Hank!

    Read that article on the Law firm.

    Did you see the link at the bottom of the page?

    It seems that the law firm’s motivation wasn’t just being mean to Limbaugh, it was for good old fashion greed.

    That is, they represent clients that invest in Sport’s Franchises. :)

    Check it out – from their own Website:

    http://www.pbwt.com/resources/news/detail.aspx?id=7256f557-8c1b-4107-9320-04b8fc7c6543

  18. Raptor
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:42 am | Permalink

    ahhh, Free…whatever will I do then? My life will be over. Maybe…just maybe…go out and enjoy life? Sounds like a plan on a Saturday…

    later!

  19. HLP
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:42 am | Permalink

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/mao-million-don-2610375-saying-dream

    Conservatives = bias and divisiveness

    Liberals = enlightened

  20. Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    From the Law Firm’s Website that allegdedly smeared Limbaugh.

    things that make you go hmmm and say greedy…

    NEW YORK, NY – September 21, 2009. Patterson Belknap Webb & Tyler LLP is pleased to announce the formal establishment of its interdisciplinary Sports Group. The firm’s work in this area dates back decades and includes high-profile disputes and transactions involving professional baseball, basketball, hockey, tennis and golf, as well as the representation of sports-related media entities. Among other matters on behalf of various leagues, teams, and other sports-related entities, over the last several years our attorneys regularly have litigated complex commercial matters, handled sensitive internal investigations issues, and provided corporate, intellectual property and charitable giving advice both in high-profile transactions and as day-to-day legal advisors.

    read more at:

    http://www.pbwt.com/resources/news/detail.aspx?id=7256f557-8c1b-4107-9320-04b8fc7c6543

  21. Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    “Conservatives = bias and divisiveness

    Liberals = enlightened”

    Well said! But you forgot that conservatives are also greedy, short sighted, jerks.

  22. Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    allegedly

  23. Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    I hear that Rush Limbaugh’s membership in the human race is being reconsidered.

  24. HLP
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    Thanks for the link, Regular.

    I wonder if the politically correct law firm will have the legal expertise to defend themselves when Rush comes after them!

  25. HLP
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    BlueJay
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 3:08 am | Permalink
    Well what Rush can’t help is many millions wishing he was dead there Hank. I’m pleased to extend the sentiment to you.
    ________________________

    Good morning, scooter.

    Noticed your enlightened post earlier this morning on another thread.

    You’re lucky I have a sense of humor combined with a charitable contempt for you opinion of me. Otherwise I might just kick your boney little bu++ next time we meet.

  26. Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    HLP
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:47 am | Permalink
    Thanks for the link, Regular.

    I wonder if the politically correct law firm will have the legal expertise to defend themselves when Rush comes after them!
    ——————–
    Dunno, I’m not an attorney, but if dirty tricks was the means to x-out Limbaugh from investing in a franchise and this lawfirm had a financial interest in such, I would say there is a case to be made.

    I would think there may be a criminal charge on the federal level as well, being as FCC rules were violated via interstate communications. That is, using a communication to harm or otherwise distort false information in a transation.

    Heck, the FTC might even get involved or the Justice Department.

    But being as its O’BAMA’s rule, I don’t have much hope for that. :)

  27. Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    transation = transaction (as in legal contract with a group doing business with the NFL)

  28. HLP
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:57 am | Permalink

    Well, a good politically correct law firm that is a tool of the Obama administration might just settle out of court instead of allowing their principals to be deposed.

    If Rush comes after them he’ll do it for justice, not money. They should be hoping that Rush allows them to settle!

  29. Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:01 am | Permalink

    Here you go Hank, that law firm is not surprisingly, contributors to O’BAMA’s campaign.

    Contributions from employees of Patterson Belknap Webb Tyler Llp to Barack Obama. Amount, Year. $5100.0, 2007. $9100.0, 2008.

  30. Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    It may or may not come as a surprise that I don’t much sweat the threats of a kept, old, man there Hank.

    I very much enjoy the marginalization of folks like you and Rush. Too bad for you and Rush, there is no penalty for excessive celebration!

  31. HLP
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    Play nice, children,

    Gotta haul some hay today.

  32. Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    A more complete list of Patterson Belknap Webb Tyler LLP to Democrats and O’BAMA.

    http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/antonia-grumbach.asp?cycle=08

  33. Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:04 am | Permalink
    Play nice, children,

    Gotta haul some hay today.
    ————–
    Be safe Hank!

    Remember what happened last year! :)

  34. Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    More contributions from Patterson Belknap Webb Tyler LLP to the O’BAMA Victory fund.

    http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/stuart-pollack.asp?cycle=08

  35. Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    Break a hip!

  36. DorisKing
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:14 am | Permalink

    circle suck

  37. Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:16 am | Permalink

    To be fair and balanced:

    That same lawfirm has past ties to the Republican party as well:

    And the Republican candidates for president have drawn support among a few prominent black attorneys who have left law firms. The chairman of the board at Time Warner, Richard Parsons, who once was the managing partner of the New York firm Patterson, Belknap, Webb & Tyler, contributed $25,000 in May to the McCain Victory Committee. And the former deputy attorney general under President Bush, Larry Thompson, who is now general counsel of PepsiCo, had contributed to Mayor Giuliani’s bid.

    http://www.nysun.com/national/black-law-partners-work-hard-for-obama/83777/

  38. Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:17 am | Permalink

    Rush Limbaugh’s whining and playing the Victim Card!

    Ha!

    Bottom line here in the real world:

    Many NFL players stood up and said they would not work for such a man. They wouldn’t not not play the game for such a person.

    Just as I would not work for Richard Melon Scaiffe, I choose not to work for David Koch.

    It might be an interesting social experiment to see how the Saint Louis White Sheep would compete against integrated teams, but Limbaugh’s would-be majority investors decided not to try.

    They are the ones who “victimized” him. Not “the libruhl media,” not the NFL, not the Players’ Union. Limbaugh got himself into this situation by his own words and actions.

    I have a tidy nest egg set aside for my later years. It’s not as fat as Limbaugh, but surely it’s enough to make me a minority stockholder. If the Checketts group chooses to not include me in their investment plans, can I claim victimhood as Limbaugh is?

    According to “HLP,” I have grounds for going after “Regular,” “okobserver,” “Raptor,” et al… and “HLP.” It’s their fault I won’t get an owners’ sky box in St. Louis!

    In fact, since he can afford it, David Koch should buy the Rams and move ‘em to Wichita. Wichita’s a bigger town than Green Bay and should be able to sustain an NFL franchise. And Koch could surely choose to include Limbaugh in his investment group. And he’d have every right to exclude me from his ownership plan.

    Unless, of course, someone chooses to “victimize” me.

  39. Freebird1971
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    MH,
    Good idea then they can raise our taxes again for a pro style stadium that no one will go to.

  40. Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    O’BAMA uses gag order to prevent disclosure on Medicare Advantage cuts for Health Care Reform under the Baucus Plan

    http://www.patriotroom.com/article/update-on-obama-s-gag-order-of-hc-critics-foia-request

    Here’s the latest developments on the Obama administration’s gag order against insurance companies. After Senate Republicans told Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius they would not agree to move nominees for that department unless the gag order was lifted, Politico characterized the response: “in short,
    Sebelius told Republicans to go pound sand.”

    Of course, that didn’t address the issue or explain why the First Amendment apparently stops when policies favored by the White House are involved.

    House Republicans didn’t like this, either, and expressed their frustration, only to get a similar response from Sebelius.

    The Obama administration apparently doesn’t want to be up front with Congress about the gag order. Fortunately it appears the group Let Freedom Ring has stepped up and issued a Freedom of Information request asking for “all correspondence, notes, emails, faxes, telephone logs, office visit logs, records of meetings and related documents exchanged between United States Senator Max Baucus’ office and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services” concerning the gag order incident.

    As you may recall, it was Baucus who made the request of HHS to block the letters about Medicare Advantage cuts in his bill.

    Hopefully, the Obama administration will be more forthcoming with this request than they’ve been with Congress so far.

  41. JMWalker
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    You know what I find really funny about this whole Limbaugh/NFL thing? Actual citizens of this country exercised their first amendment rights, and people listened. Hence, Rush was dropped from the group trying to buy the Rams. Now those same people, who claim to never listen to Rush (with the exception of a few dittoheads), are coming out of the woodwork and complaining about it. This blog just keeps on getting funnier.

  42. Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    I don’t think that’s the case Walker, not for me at least.

    I never listen to Limbaugh, nor am I fan of his.

    However, the interference by sources, especially that Law firm I previously mentioned, may be an unethical conduct by attorneys and a violation of several Federal and State Laws.

    I think the Law Firm’s alleged actions on the smear campaign, should be punished in a court of law, if they turn out to be true and findings go against that law firm.

  43. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    Raptor posted October 17, 2009 at 9:42 am

    ahhh, Free…whatever will I do then?
    —-

    Raptor,

    How about trying to understand the difference between “debt” and “deficit”?

    And trying to understand the difference between “innuendo” and “fact”?

    No. . . those are too difficult for Raptor to understand.

  44. sursum
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    American_Way: I read the BBC item as per your 8:00 AM post which says in part:”More services than ever could be rated good or excellent”. “We have transformed the waiting experiences for millions of patients and now have the shortest waits on record…three quarters of GP surgeries (offices)are providing extended opening hours giving patients greater choices and more convenient access to GP’s”. “98% of the 19 million patients who attended A&E waited less than four hours” The report is a wake up call and critique not condemnation as you seem to want it to be. But then I notice your posts are likely to cast a half light from a biased angle which only shows long, scary, mis-shapened shadows rather than illuminate. Much heat little light is the tenor of your posts, but I knew that before, I was just checking to see if you had changed to a more balanced view….and nope, you haven’t. I shall again scoll over your less than accuate findings knowing there are frightened, insecure, bigoted and uneducated people out there who thrive on such nonsense and you are part of that unhappy minority who are the legal prey of the fear & smear mongers. PS: Don’t ever look up the equivalent comments on American health experiences, it WILL scare you.

  45. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:48 am | Permalink

    Is Hank still researching his proof for his “admirers”. . .?

    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/10/open-thread-1015-2/#comment-681267

    Maybe his son Nathainel can help him?

  46. politicalmama
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:50 am | Permalink

    http://blackpoliticsontheweb.com/2009/10/16/kansas-lawmakers-anti-obama-redneck-rap-off-web/

    Another Kansas racist republican.

  47. Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    PMama, they are all around the State…

  48. American_Way
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    Not sure this is still the USA anymore. I think we’ve converted completely to the United Socialist States.

    When a citizen cannot own a business because of his or her political, religious, radical or any other viewpoints we are no longer living in the Land of the Free.

  49. littlejohn
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    “Another Kansas racist republican.”

    Another fearful liberal sees a rascist behind every tree because they have been told to. Kinda like the christians she despises that seens satan behind every tree, because they have been told to. The fact is, Liberals are so inlove with Obama, they can only see one reason why people would object to his pollicies..race. They are blinded by their own ideologies and rascism

  50. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    Media Matters: Limbaugh’s NFL dream slips through his “formerly nicotine-stained fingers”
    http://mediamatters.org/columns/200910160053

  51. American_Way
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    Another Kansas republican reveals “racism” in legislation and is therefore declared to be the same.

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

  52. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    American_Way posted October 17, 2009 at 10:59 am

    Not sure this is still the USA anymore.
    ——————-

    American_Way has ingested too much trans fat. . .

  53. Hud
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    “Actual citizens of this country exercised their first amendment rights, and people listened.”

    I guess you are right the first amendment does give people the right to lie. Just look at the liberal posters on this blog.

  54. American_Way
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    ” NEW YORK – (AP) The Wall Street Journal has surpassed USA Today as the top-selling daily newspaper in the United States.

    USA Today, which has long been No. 1, said last week that it had its worst circulation decline ever, dropping 17 percent to 1.88 million.”

    Tabloid media doesn’t sell so well. I think it’s sorta like left wing talk shows…..

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33311568/ns/business-media_biz/

  55. American_Way
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    “ingested too much trans fat. . .”

    Cosmos why don’t you stick to posting on your single subject. You know, something you don’t really know anything about.

  56. American_Way
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    O.K. libs. Remember democrats were patting each other on the back because the CBO said the Senate version of the Healthcare bill would not be such a big debt?

    So now you need to be consistent and cancel Cap & Tax because the same CBO says it will be death to our economy

    CBO Director Douglas W. Elmendorf emphasized that his estimates contained significant uncertainties and “do not include any benefits from averting climate change,” but his message nevertheless contrasted
    sharply with those of President Obama and congressional Democratic leaders, who have suggested that a cap on carbon emissions would help
    revive the U.S. economy.

    Elmendorf testified before the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee that the cap-and-trade provisions of the House bill — in which emitters of greenhouse gases would be able to buy and sell
    pollution credits — would cut the nation’s gross domestic product by 0.25 to 0.75 percent in 2020 compared with “what it would otherwise have
    been,” and by 1 to 3.5 percent in 2050.

    Elmendorf also pointed to disruptions that would occur as Americans sought employment with industries that would benefit under a carbon cap, such as solar and wind power.

    “The shifts will be significant,” the CBO director said. “We want to leave no misunderstanding that aggregate performance — the fact that
    jobs turn up somewhere else for some people — does not mean that there are not substantial costs borne by people, communities, firms in affected industries and affected areas.
    You saw that in manufacturing, and we would see that in response to changes that this legislation would
    produce.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-yn/content/article/2009/10/14/AR200910
    1404054.html?hpid=topnews

  57. American_Way
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    “ouch!”

    Former congressional budget chief called the Obama administration’s
    claims to fiscal responsibility “hypocritical” and “laughable,” noting
    in particular the mounting unemployment numbers (9.8 percent nationwide)
    despite the $787-billion stimulus plan enacted in February that he said
    was poorly designed.

    “The Obama Administration’s claims of fiscal responsibility are both
    hypocritical …. [a]nd laughable,” Douglas Holtz-Eakin, who served as
    director of the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) from 2003 through
    2005, wrote in an Oct. 14 memo to Republican members of the House of
    Representatives.

    Holtz-Eakin said in the memo that the hastily written stimulus bill
    enacted in February–the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of
    2009–was “poorly designed” and that was “probably one of the reasons
    why we’ve lost 3 million private-sector jobs since it became law.”

    “A minority (under $300 billion) of the near trillion-dollar bill cut
    taxes, and very little cut marginal tax rates,” he said

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/55498

  58. American_Way
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    Whiner-in-chief it is! WIC

    Liberal commentators from Saturday Night Live comedians to newspaper
    columnists to bloggers to gay activists have portrayed President Obama
    as a do-nothing president and “whiner-in-chief,” expressing a growing
    concern that the president is not showing enough spine. Fox

    WIC WPE

  59. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    American_Way,

    How much trans fat did/do you ingest each day?

  60. American_Way
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    “WASHINGTON (AFP) – The US government closed its 2009 fiscal year with a record 1.417 trillion dollar budget deficit as it poured resources to contain a serious financial crisis that plunged the nation into recession.

    The deficit was some 962 billion dollars higher than the prior year and amounted to 10 percent of US gross domestic product (GDP), the highest since 1945, officials said Friday.”

    01/21/2009 national debt: $10,625,053,544,309.79
    10/15/2009 national debt: $11,946,703,132,807.34
    Whiner-In-Chief tot debt: $1,321,649,588,497.55

    President Barack Obama, calling current deficit spending “unsustainable,” warned of skyrocketing interest rates for consumers if the U.S. continues to finance government by borrowing from other countries.

    “We can’t keep on just borrowing from China,” Obama said at a town-hall meeting in Rio Rancho, New Mexico, outside Albuquerque. “We have to pay interest on that debt, and that means we are mortgaging our children’s future with more and more debt.”

    Holders of U.S. debt will eventually “get tired” of buying it, causing interest rates on everything from auto loans to home mortgages to increase, Obama said. “It will have a dampening effect on our economy.”

    -President Obama May 2009
    “Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren,” Obama said in a 2006 floor speech that preceded a Senate vote to extend the debt limit. “America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.” (Obama later joined his Democratic colleagues in voting en bloc against raising the debt increase.)
    -Senator Obama 2006

    Obama=Liar

  61. American_Way
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    “we have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt”

    2nd in command Whiner in Chief Biden

    http://cybercastnewsservice.org/JoeBidenHealthCare-CNSNEWS-71609.mp3

  62. American_Way
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    While the Whiner-In-Chief procrastinates American troops die.

    The Huffington Post’s Arianna Huffington wrote on her Web site Wednesday
    that Biden should, in a symbolic stand against the war, resign if
    President Obama decides to escalate the U.S. presence in Afghanistan.

    “Though it would be a crowning moment in a distinguished career, such an
    act of courage would likely be only the beginning. Biden would then
    become the natural leader of the movement to wind down this disastrous
    war and focus on the real dangers in Pakistan,” Huffington wrote.

    Biden is speaking for a broad swath of the Democratic Party in
    expressing to Obama his skepticism toward the war. Polls show public
    support for the war is at startlingly low levels, and a number of
    Democrats have voiced support for a more restricted U.S. involvement in
    the region.

    “One of the central problems in Afghanistan right now is you have a
    government that is corrupt and incompetent,” Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass.,
    said on ABC’s “This Week.” If you don’t have good governance at the
    center of all of this, you can put all the troops you want in there, you
    can invest all the money you want in there, and it won’t make any
    difference.”

    He said “enlarging our military footprint” would be “counterproductive”
    and “a mistake.”

    But Biden may end up facing the scorn of anti-war advocates like
    Huffington in the end.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/15/spotlight-pressure-biden-obam
    a-weighs-afghanistan-advice/

    Reply Reply to all Forward

  63. American_Way
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    I must conclude that Democrats either have split personalities or they are big liars. Against the debt/spend record amounts. Pro Afghan War/cut troop levels. Love military/Hate military.

    Which is it folks?

  64. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    Maldives government dives for climate change

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g9qWZja0fjVbZd01NOmyuEQG1rqwD9BCO3E80
    “Members of the Maldives’ Cabinet donned scuba gear and used hand signals Saturday at an underwater meeting staged to highlight the threat of global warming to the lowest-lying nation on earth. “

  65. Daniel
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    Good afternoon, Raptor!

    Please post a link to a post I’ve made where I’ve written “it is BUSH’s FAULT.”

    I can’t recall any offhand, but I’m sure you had at least one in mind when you made your post this morning so linking to such a post should be no problem for you, right?

    Have a great day!

  66. Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    California Rights Group Wants Target to Pull ‘Illegal Alien’ Halloween Costume

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568064,00.html

    you have to check out the picture to get it. :)

  67. JMWalker
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    #
    Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    I don’t think that’s the case Walker, not for me at least.

    I never listen to Limbaugh, nor am I fan of his.

    However, the interference by sources, especially that Law firm I previously mentioned, may be an unethical conduct by attorneys and a violation of several Federal and State Laws.

    I think the Law Firm’s alleged actions on the smear campaign, should be punished in a court of law, if they turn out to be true and findings go against that law firm.
    ===============================================
    Regardless of what the law firm did, be it ethical or unethical, the final button to be pushed, concerning ElBloviate, would be the NFL owners, and from what has been written, a resounding NO would echo over the playing fields. His partners recognized that fact and dumped him. Which should be the end of the story, but, knowing drug boys penchant for adoration, he’ll probably sue . . . somebody.

    Secondary argument: The owners, in concert, are the ones who vote up or down on who can buy a team. They listen to the first amendment voices resounding over the air and internet, and make their decisions accordingly. Sounds like a democratic process to me. Whether those voices are telling lies or truth is something the owners will have to pick through. Kinda like the lies, spread by health insurance brokers, right-wing pundits, and, in many cases, lawmakers themselves (think Tiahrt), us progressives have had to pick through concerning the health care debate. Life sure is a beyatch, ain’t it.

  68. Posted October 17, 2009 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    i think I saw one of those aliens protesting outside of WalMart the other day… Said he wanted equal rights with the Reagan and Nixon masks… He said even though he is a “gray” he was born here at Area 51, and thus not illegal… LOL /sarcasm off

  69. Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

    Walker writes: Regardless of what the law firm did…
    —————————–
    I’m pretty sure that the New York Bar Association, the FCC and FTC will look at that differently. :)

  70. george
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    But, I might want to sneak a candy bar and talk on my cell phone at the same time. Obesity police? Our nanny government needs to mind their own business. I will take care of my health, not some bureaucrat. I’m responsible for my actions and the costs I pay for it. Besides I golf a lot. Part of health reform we don’t need. Again politicians stay out of my stomach and life.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33336289/ns/politics-washington_post/

  71. TomPaine
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    That Unhealthy people should pay more for health insurance seems logical to me thats the way we do auto insurance

  72. Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    George,

    I read a figure that 72 percent of health care costs are “life-style related.”

    Not adding or subtracting from the argument, but certainly something to think about.

    But you are right, life would be boring without having the occasional indulgence.

  73. Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    TomPaine
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 1:13 pm | Permalink
    That Unhealthy people should pay more for health insurance seems logical to me thats the way we do auto insurance
    ———————
    That would include risk takers in sports and non-sports. football, horse back riders, race car drivers, sky divers, skateboarders, skiers, etc. etc.

    People who have promiscuous sex without protection.

    Alcohol or any recreational drug participant.

    Sun bathers who don’t use adequate sun block or outdoor workers for that matter.

    People who eat red meat for the majority of their diet.

    Cold or hot climate workers or enthusiasts.

    The list could go on and on what could be included as a life style choice.

  74. TomPaine
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    Reg I’m not in complete disagreement with you, many choices arent going to be verifiable one sex life for example, that someone reasonably fit pays the same rate as the scooter riding morbidly obese, you see at Dillions or Walmart I think is wrong too, every other type of insurance has Risk as a factor in cost

  75. JMWalker
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    #
    Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

    Walker writes: Regardless of what the law firm did…
    —————————–
    I’m pretty sure that the New York Bar Association, the FCC and FTC will look at that differently. :)
    ==================================================
    Regardless, it will have zero effect on elblimpo’s desire to own a team. And that’s the point, isn’t it?

  76. Posted October 17, 2009 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Where’s Vaughn when we need him??

  77. george
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    Life style choices should be mine for me,not somebody else. I’m lucky I have never stayed in a hospital over night. Why should I pay for somebody else’s obesity for watching TV or not exercising? I belong to a health club where I work out daily and I pay my own way, not like our Congress.

  78. politicalmama
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    As I ponder the invitation to my 20th class reunion, I began to think of all of my gay friends who have told me they absolutely refuse to go to any class reunions. And why should they? The place where that awkward awareness of their sexuality came to be felt strongly, perhaps even stifled.. where they felt so out of place, perhaps even taunted.

    Why would they come someplace to get together with people who they would feel self conscious about bringing their significant other? Or perhaps even unwelcome? I would hope that by now, we all would evolve past that stupid bullying, teasing high school peer nonsense, but no…it is evident on this blog that is alive and well. Why should gay classmates come back to have to endure those feelings again? I would hope however, that there are enough people out there planning these events to make the invitation open and inviting- bring a friend, partner, signifcant other or spouse- shout it loudly that all are welcome. We were all a part of something for 12 years together in some cases. And to the dumbashes who might feel that jock strap riding up their butt feeling the urge to swirly once again- remember you’re more of a man to be kind and accepting.

  79. JimJohnson
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    Change You Can Believe In!!!

    A bad economy and low inflation are starting to drag down wages for millions of everyday workers and freeze benefits for millions of retirees.
    Average weekly wages have fallen 1.4% this year for private-sector workers through September, after adjusting for inflation, to $616.11, a USA TODAY analysis of Bureau of Labor Statistics data found. If that trend holds, it will mark the biggest annual decline in real wages since 1991.

    The bureau’s data cover 82% of private-sector workers but exclude managers and some higher-paid professionals.

    “Wages are usually the last thing to deteriorate in a recession,” says economist Heidi Shierholz of the liberal Economic Policy Institute. “But it’s happening now, and wages are probably going to be held down for a long time.”

    http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2009-10-15-cola-wages-drop-recession_N.htm

  80. JimJohnson
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    Democrats Continue to Fight Each Other Over Health Care Bill – Yet Blame Republicans for the Do-Nothing Democrat Congress

    House, Senate Dems at odds on health care overhaul
    By ERICA WERNER (AP) – 8 hours ago

    WASHINGTON — You may think Democrats and Republicans are at odds over health care. Well, they’ve got nothing on House and Senate Democrats going after each other.

    The intraparty disputes may prove the most grueling test of all as Congress tries to write a bill that fulfills President Barack Obama’s goal of extending coverage to millions of Americans and reining in rising medical costs.

    The disagreements extend well beyond whether or not to allow the government to sell insurance in competition with the private market, though fissures over the so-called public plan — preferred in the House, less so in the Senate — have drawn the most attention.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hy-oak47muAAVz-P_SXOd-E1RxkQD9BCSEE01

  81. JimJohnson
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    GETTING PAID LESS – Thanks Obama For That Change – WPE

    Weekly wages for private workers after adjusting for inflation:

    Year Change
    2000 -0.4%

    2001 +1.5%

    2002 +0.2%

    2003 -0.7%

    2004 -0.2%

    2005 -0.4%

    2006 +2.2%

    2007 -1.2%

    2008 +2.4%

    2009 -1.4%

    http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2009-10-15-cola-wages-drop-recession_N.htm

  82. JimJohnson
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 5:32 pm | Permalink

    U.S. ignored warnings before deadly Afghan attack – Three intelligence reports dismissed days before eight U.S. soldiers killed

    Some 200 Taliban insurgents attacked the outposts on the morning of Oct. 3 with assault rifles and rocket-propelled grenades, nearly overrunning the fortified bases.

    They killed eight U.S. Army soldiers and two Afghan soldiers, making it the deadliest single attack against allied forces in Afghanistan since a similar raid in nearby Wanat in July 2008. Nine U.S. soldiers were killed in that battle, which prompted a re-evaluation of U.S. counterinsurgency tactics in Afghanistan.

    Obama, WPE

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/16/us-ignored-warnings-before-deadly-afghan-attack/?feat=home_cube_position4&page=2

  83. okobserver
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    JimJohnson
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 5:27 pm | Permalink
    GETTING PAID LESS – Thanks Obama For That Change – WPE
    ———
    This happens when you put a Community Organizer in charge of the executive branch. I heard on his radio address this morning he tried to take on the insurance industry again.

    He this man dense or just stupid. He needs buy in on his Obamacare sham not to tee off the opposition. Oh well I guess he will have the justice dept on them by monday. We need another investigation that goes nowhere.

  84. JimJohnson
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    Ok, the Community Organizer fixed things so well in Chicago, that he thinks he can now be the Social Engineer for the whole country!

    He’s so smart, we don’t need the free market anymore.

    It’s clear how successful Obama has been so far in pulling the puppet strings and organizing the economy for the greater good.

  85. JWink
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    PMom: You mention your class reunion is coming up. My class reunion was last Saturday and Sunday in a nearby small Kansas community. I wasn’t enthused until I got there. Then immensely enjoyed visiting once again with the 25 or so who attended out of our 80 member class. Parting last Sunday afternoon was emotional for all, I’m sure.

    Classmates are probably the group of people you will know best in this world. All the stories good and not so good. The marriages and re-marriages. Professions and jobs. Early deaths, some just barely out of high school. Many small successes over the years. Talents developed and then finished. Living all over the country and world, though most not in the old hometown.

    Some world traveled. A few, thankfully, remained in the hometown to organize our successive five-year reunions. These are the ones who know the stream of stories in the community.

    Some with long military careers. One retired military and wife live near Las Vegas and travel virtually full time. Another retired career Coast Guard buddy and his wife live near the ocean in Florida and didn’t attend for health reasons. Some with a long interesting but mostly finished professions to talk about. One female classmate with a strong musical talent went to Germany for college and still lives in Heidelburg.

    A budding author now in retirement. One a city councilman for many years. One girl in some of my younger classes with a name like perfume attended. Shucks, I didn’t realize she was there until the reunion was over Sunday PM.

    A young pregnancy resulted in a classmate leaving town all those decades ago wasn’t able to attend. We all wanted to hug her once again to amend for those misunderstandings.

    An automobile accident back in high school days snuffed out the life of one of our classmates. That was quietly remembered once again last weekend.

    Yes, there was a gay member in our class who didn’t attend from California this time but has in the past. Back in those days, “don’t ask, don’t tell” was apparently the rule. Some years later, our classmate “came out” somehow out in California and has returned occasionally with their life partner for some class reunions.

    After the dinner Saturday night, two of the “girls” in my class and I decided to “drag Main Street” like we did those many years ago. We drove by the busy neon lighted movie theater and various darkened retail shops along Main Street and the highway. These places and residences reminded us of lots of stories about our former classmates and incidents in our younger lives.

    We eventually drove by one noisy bar open, full of cowboys and presumably cowgirls … the mournful juke box music of Patsy Cline and Hank Thompson drifting out of the open door just down Main Street from the old Rock Island tracks. We paused to look in and saw local people we recognized from many years in the past. I wonder if that bar was real or a figment of our imagination!

  86. Posted October 17, 2009 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    Reunions?

    People I didn’t want to see then, don’t want to see now and don’t care if I ever see again. I must not be alone.

    My class had a reunion recently. Out of a class of over 500 just 17 people showed up! 16 of them were people I barely knew and one I would have punched out on sight.

  87. Pleefer
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    Just get your damned shot…

    http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/health/dpgo_101309_woman_disabled_by_flu_shot_reaction_dystonia_4027780

  88. JimJohnson
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    BlueJay
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 7:55 pm | Permalink
    Reunions?

    People I didn’t want to see then, don’t want to see now and don’t care if I ever see again. I must not be alone.

    My class had a reunion recently. Out of a class of over 500 just 17 people showed up! 16 of them were people I barely knew and one I would have punched out on sight.
    ==================================

    Not surprised. Anti-social, selfish, and not caring of others. And of course, false blog bravado.

    Typcial BJ.

    It’s a wonder why he brags about such things.

  89. RoaCH
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    BJ you seem to be quite the loner. I doubt you have the numbers correct for a reunion of people of your age group. And it would be interesting to know how you know the numbers. No. I take that back. I don’t care.

    Someone who hates Wichita, our state of Kansas, the United States, and everyone you went though school with, isn’t someone I care to know anyway.

    I’m glad you have the blogs to keep you company.

  90. RoaCH
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 8:57 pm | Permalink

    Anti-social behavior? I think you are putting in mildy JimJohnson. I think BJ is the personality type the police should be keeping close tabs on. Doesn’t he remind you of half a dozen killers?

  91. Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    “it would be interesting to know how you know the numbers.”

    They had a “look who’s coming!” on the website. I guess about 500 other people felt the same way.

  92. JimJohnson
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    RoaCH
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 8:57 pm | Permalink
    Anti-social behavior? I think you are putting in mildy JimJohnson. I think BJ is the personality type the police should be keeping close tabs on. Doesn’t he remind you of half a dozen killers?
    =============================

    Could be. The loner who get’s pushed down by others, and can’t stand up for himself. Eventually he just reaches a breaking point and flips out.

    Oswald was a loner Commie type too.

  93. Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    Heh.

    Analysis from a grown man who lives with his sister and posts under multiple nics?

  94. RoaCH
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    Oswald was a loner Commie type too.
    =========================================

    And wasn’t the shooter in Virgina a loner too?

    I wonder how many bullies beat BJ up for him to turn out so wrong? Or maybe he was abused by a family member?

  95. Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    BlueJay
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:34 pm | Permalink
    Heh.

    Analysis from a grown man who lives with his sister and posts under multiple nics?
    ——————–
    Wrong again BlueJay, I haven’t posted anything about you tonight.

    But you don’t seem to care, you just do it because you’re safe at home.

  96. Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    Uh huh.

  97. Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    Every time you make a false accusation junior, it makes you a liar.

    You must be a pathological liar.

  98. JimJohnson
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    Book for BJ:

    Party of One: The Loners’ Manifesto

  99. RoaCH
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:49 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if BJ gets hand cramps?

  100. JimJohnson
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    BJ?

    Common Characteristics of Serial Killers
    Besides the obvious ones – sick minds, sociopathic personalities, unspeakable desires, etc. – serial killers tend to share a number of characteristics. In a paper presented to the International Association of Forensic Sciences in 1984, FBI Special Agent Robert K. Ressler and several of his colleagues listed the following “general characteristics” of serial sex-murderers:

    1. Over 90 percent of them are white males

    2. They tend to be intelligent, with IQs in the “bright normal” range.

    3. In spite of their high IQs, they do poorly in school, have a hard time holding down jobs, and often work as unskilled laborers.

    4. They tend to come from markedly unstable families. Typically, they are abandoned as children by their fathers and raised by domineering mothers.

    5. Their families often have criminal psychiatric, and alcoholic histories.

    6. They hate their fathers. They hate their mothers.

    7. They are commonly abused as children – psychologically, physically, and sexually. Sometimes, the abuser is a stranger. Sometimes, it is a friend. Often, it is a family member.

    8. Many of them end up spending time in institutions as children and have records of early psychiatric problems.

    9. They have a high rate of suicide attempts.

    10. They are intensely interested from an early age in voyeurism, fetishism, and sadomasochistic pornography.

  101. Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    “Every time you make a false accusation junior, it makes you a liar.

    You must be a pathological liar.” [Reg]

    Reg — Look in a mirror dude…

  102. JimJohnson
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    BJ?

    Could you be raising a criminal? Acts of violence don’t come out of nowhere, and every parent should be aware of the clues along the way. For the most violent of criminals, there are warning signs that often start in childhood. Below is a list of the 14 most common traits of serial killers.

    1. Over 90 percent of serial killers are male.

    2. They tend to be intelligent, with IQ’s in the “bright normal” range.

    3. They do poorly in school, have trouble holding down jobs, and often work as unskilled laborers.

    4. They tend to come from markedly unstable families.

    5. As children, they are abandoned by their fathers and raised by domineering mothers.

    6. Their families often have criminal, psychiatric and alcoholic histories.

    7. They hate their fathers and mothers.

    8. They are commonly abused as children — psychologically, physically and sexually. Often the abuse is by a family member.

    9. Many serial killers spend time in institutions as children and have records of early psychiatric problems.

    10. They have high rates of suicide attempts.

    11. From an early age, many are intensely interested in voyeurism, fetishism, and sado-masochistic pornography.

    12. More than 60 percent of serial killers wet their beds beyond the age of 12.

    13. Many serial killers are fascinated with fire starting. (eg. Flag Burning)

    14. They are involved with sadistic activity or tormenting small creatures.

    Source: Internal Association of Forensic Science, an article written by FBI Special Agent Robert K. Ressler

    “The Serial Killer,” Harold Schechter

  103. Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    If I’m wrong “Regular”, why protest so much? AND so soon?

    Because I’m not wrong. If you can make me wrong, you go ahead on. We’re all paying for your continued existence on this planet. You can at least be amusing.

  104. Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    Chas
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:50 pm | Permalink
    “Every time you make a false accusation junior, it makes you a liar.

    You must be a pathological liar.” [Reg]

    Reg — Look in a mirror dude…
    —————–
    So you defend BlueJay’s lying.

  105. Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    BlueJay
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 9:57 pm | Permalink
    If I’m wrong “Regular”, why protest so much? AND so soon?

    Because I’m not wrong. If you can make me wrong, you go ahead on. We’re all paying for your continued existence on this planet. You can at least be amusing.
    ———————
    Why do you continue to make false statements junior?

    I’m protesting because you are lying about me.

    You don’t pay enough in taxes or any taxes as far as I’m concerned to pay for the urinal cakes in a bus depot latrine.

  106. RoaCH
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    Regular Chas and Bluejay are two equal spirits. Both are lost souls who’s greatest pleasure in life is blogging here. They have no other lives. They feed off each others wrath.

    Two very sick cookies.

    I don’t waste time trying to “reason” with either one of these sick animals.

  107. WSClark
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    “How do you know I don’t know who you are and what your denomination is?”

    Well, show us the money. Who is Chas and what is his denomination?

    If you can’t answer, KSGrandma, we’ll just have to assume that you are lying once again.

  108. Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    Oh come now James, you can do better than that. A man of your ejucashun.

  109. JimJohnson
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

    BJ?

    Mall shooter’s suicide note: ‘I’ve just snapped’

    “I’ve just snapped. I can’t take this meaningless existence anymore,” he writes.

    “I’ve been a constant disappointment and that trend would have only continued.”

    To both family and friends, Hawkins apologized.

    “I’m so sorry for what I’ve put you all through,” he wrote.

    “I never meant to hurt all of you so much and I don’t blame any one of you for disowning me. I just can’t be a burden to you and my friends any longer. You are all better off without me. I’m so sorry for this.”

    The note to his family is signed “I love you mommy,” with similar sentiments to his father and other people in his life.

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/07/mall.shooter/index.html

  110. JimJohnson
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    Robert Hawkins was a depressed teenager who believed he had endured a terrible fortnight when he snapped, took a rifle, and killed eight Christmas shoppers before shooting himself.

    Two weeks ago his long-term girlfriend dumped him. Last week he was sacked by McDonalds over a missing $17. He was also awaiting a court case due later this month for underage possession of alcohol.

    The 19-year-old lived with a family in the middle-class town of Bellevue, Nebraska. The small town, which is sandwiched between the city of Omaha and a US military base, proudly boasts of its tight-knit community.

    Hawkins moved into the suburban home of Debora Maruca-Kovac after becoming friends with her two sons, aged 17 and 19.
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3012136.ece

  111. JimJohnson
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    “When he first came in the house, he was introverted, a troubled young man who was like a lost pound puppy that nobody wanted,” Mrs Maruca-Kovac said.

    Hawkins had dropped out of Papillion-La Vista High School without qualifications and a criminal record that included one drug conviction and several misdemeanour cases. His most recent arrest for underage possession of alcohol came 11 days before his shooting spree.

    Since leaving school he had got a steady job, passed his driving test and earned a high school equivalency degree. Mrs Maruca-Kovac thought he was improving.

    “He was depressed, and he had always been depressed,” she said. “But he looked like he was getting better.”

    Mrs Maruca-Kovac is a medical nurse and she explained that Hawkins had been treated for attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder and depression but was not taking any medication. She said he also had a drinking problem and would occasionally smoke marijuana in his bedroom.

  112. Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    I wouldn’t sweat okobserver too much there Chas. If she HAD a gun, she’d fire it.

    She’d probably take a toe off. Bue she’s definitely half cocked.

  113. RoaCH
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    Contract From America Preamble

    We, the citizens of the United States of America, in order to protect our country from those who seek power and authoritarian control under the false guise of compassion and altruism, call upon our elected representatives to sign this Contract and by doing so commit to upholding the principles herein:

    Individual Liberty

    Our moral, political, and economic liberties are inherent, not gifts from the government. It is essential to the practice of these liberties that we be free from restriction over our peaceful political expression and free from excessive control over our economic choices.

    Limited Government

    The purpose of our government is to protect our liberties by administering justice and ensuring our safety from threats arising inside or outside our country’s sovereign borders. When our government ventures beyond these functions and attempts to increase its power over the marketplace and the economic decisions of individuals, our liberties are diminished and the probability of corruption, internal strife, economic depression, and poverty increases.

    Economic Freedom

    The most powerful, proven instrument of material and social progress is the free market. The market economy, driven by the accumulated expressions of individual economic choices, is the only economic system that preserves and enhances individual liberty. Any other economic system, regardless of its intended pragmatic benefits, undermines our fundamental rights as free people.

  114. RoaCH
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

    Experts say the dispassionate confession of serial killer Dennis Rader is typical of psychopaths.

    Rader’s crime spree began in the 1970s and he was finally apprehended in early 2005. During his court appearance, Rader explained how, in most of his cases, he chose, stalked, and killed his victims.

    Successful Psychopath

    As many as 5% of people display psychopathic or sociopathic personality disorders. That’s according to experts and the professional bible of mental illnesses — the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV). These personality disorders are marked by antisocial and impulsive behavior, disregard for societal standards, and no indications of fear or guilt.

    “The most essential characteristic is an excessive need for power and control, and we see this in most of sexually oriented serial killers,” Levin says. “They enjoy the suffering of their victims. It makes them feel special and important, like big shots.”

    “The last thing they would want to do is distance themselves. So they typically, like Rader, use up-close-and-personal methods to kill — whether strangulation, stabbing, or bludgeoning,” he says. “The killing is a mere footnote. The text has to do with the torture of the victim, hearing her scream. Pleading and begging for mercy makes the killer feel good.”

    Welner adds that “people who are true psychopaths really are cold and callous and lack empathy and have a detached way of feeling emotion.”

    “If they exhibit emotion, it’s an effort to create an impression,” he says.

    Sounds like BJ.

  115. RoaCH
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    Loneliness is a serious social problem which affects the sufferer, and society, in many ways. It affects the physical and/or mental health of the lonely. The lonely person craves attention and can be a burden on the medical and social systems which are already overburdened by the numerous problems of our society. We will never know how many people are in hospitals because of depression, or other mental illnesses, brought on by loneliness.

    There is another aspect to loneliness, and that is the fear of loneliness. Many people stay in a relationship long after it has ceased to work because they are terrified of finding themselves alone.

  116. RoaCH
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    In decades of research in collaboration with my Northeastern University colleague Jack Levin, certain common characteristics of mass killers emerge time and time again.

    First, the perpetrators tend to have experienced a long history of frustration and failure, resulting in a diminished ability to cope with life’s disappointments. Second, they typically externalize blame, frequently complaining that others didn’t give them a decent chance. Without this, their destructiveness would instead be directed inward.

    In addition, these killers generally lack emotional support from friends or family. They are loners as well as losers. Lacking this support system and reality check, they come to perceive some precipitating event as being absolutely catastrophic.

    This most often involves some kind of major disappointment: the loss of a job, the breakup of a relationship or financial ruin, surely a major issue in today’s economy. Finally, they need access to a weapon powerful and rapid enough to satisfy their intense need for revenge.

    Without much hope for a brighter tomorrow, these assailants often decide that life is not worth living; rather than just taking their own life in quiet solitude, they are eager for payback. It becomes their all-consuming mission to avenge, with a death penalty, against those who caused them to suffer — in reality or perhaps only in their paranoid interpretation of events.

    Experiencing disappointment and failure so profound as to extinguish their desire to survive, most mass killers deliberately and methodically execute those closest to them, those they hold responsible for their troubles. There is little surprise, therefore, that mass murder overwhelmingly involves family members or co-workers, not total strangers. Although there certainly are many well-known episodes of random slaughter of complete strangers, these are more the exception than the rule.

    BJ

  117. RoaCH
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:34 pm | Permalink

    There are three types of loners:
    1. A person who doesn’t know how to connect with others, verbally, or physically, even though they may want to. This is either due to lack of skills, mental social deficiency, or anxiety. The causes of which are myriad.
    2. A person who does know how to connect with others, but chooses not to because they view people as either victims or prey. A predator usually operates best alone in the human environment.
    3. A person who knows how to connect with others, but others do not know how to reciprocate. This type of person is usually very gifted intellectually and they understand and even take for granted many concepts,social que’s,and knowledge as being “common” and “understood.” This accelerated comprehension is beyond the others ability to keep pace and scope, so they lose interest. The “loner” here is not attempting to be offputting, they are simple comprehending the world through their mind, as the other is through their mind. Neither is wrong, or even better. It is simply a matter of their being fewer highly intelligent people, therefore making it difficult for them to connect with others. This type of loner is the saddest, because they have so much to offer, but no one can hear them.

  118. RoaCH
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:40 pm | Permalink

    According to the National Institute of Mental Health, symptoms of depression may include the following:

    difficulty concentrating, remembering details, and making decisions
    fatigue and decreased energy
    feelings of guilt, worthlessness, and/or helplessness
    feelings of hopelessness and/or pessimism
    insomnia, early-morning wakefulness, or excessive sleeping
    irritability, restlessness
    loss of interest in activities or hobbies once pleasurable, including sex
    overeating or appetite loss
    persistent aches or pains, headaches, cramps, or digestive problems that do not ease even with treatment
    persistent sad, anxious, or “empty” feelings
    thoughts of suicide, suicide attempts

  119. WSClark
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:40 pm | Permalink

    Kinda waiting here for Okie-grandma to provide backup for her claim that she “knows who Chas is and his denomination” and the fact that they are investigating him.

    Methinks that KSobserver is full of regular.

  120. RoaCH
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:52 pm | Permalink

    Willy Clarkbar has to defend another poster? Chas can’t stand on his own two left feet?

    Since when is the discussion between Willie Clarkbar?

    Obviously the poster being ganged up on has been very effective. But then again, it is late at night and its about time for Will to start looking for the good fight he ain’t man enough to get from someone nearby live. Unless he punches his old lady again.

  121. WSClark
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:58 pm | Permalink

    “But then again, it is late at night and its about time for Will to start looking for the good fight he ain’t man enough to get from someone nearby live.”

    Huh?

    Hey, tough guy, I’m just calling out, KSObserver.

    Are you suggesting a physical confrontation?

  122. politicalmama
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:00 pm | Permalink

    Oh for crying out loud, calling BJ a serial killer, is in poor taste even for you.

    Jwink, I cruised main too! Ah those were the days. I’ve got a million stories.

  123. WSClark
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:01 pm | Permalink

    “Since when is the discussion between Willie Clarkbar?”

    Since when did the conversation include a cockRoaCH?

  124. RoaCH
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:02 pm | Permalink

    Willie are you really that stupid? Why don’t you let Chas fight his own fights?

    How is it any of your business to stick your big nose in?

  125. Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:02 pm | Permalink

    Maybe “Regular” got a note from the city and has to find a new place to park his car.

    Hee hee.

  126. RoaCH
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:04 pm | Permalink

    BJ a serial killer

    sounds like someeone else put Bluejays personality together with criminal history. Yep, I’d say the skinny runt needs to be investigated. Particularly with some of his threatening, hateful posts here.

    We could save lives here.

  127. WSClark
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:08 pm | Permalink

    “How is it any of your business to stick your big nose in?”

    Why are you sticking your little, itty, bitty nose in to defend OKGrandma?

    Eh, cockRoaCH?

  128. RoaCH
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:08 pm | Permalink

    “Regular” got a note from the city and has to find a new place to park
    ================================================

    BJ you remind me of Son of Sam. You stalking Regular?

  129. Regular
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:10 pm | Permalink

    BlueJay
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:02 pm | Permalink
    Maybe “Regular” got a note from the city and has to find a new place to park his car.
    ————————-
    Nope, I doubt I will.

    The house is my sisters. I guess you like making trouble for people you don’t even know.

    What a worm you are. Harassing people in their personal life.

    This is what libs defend, it doesn’t matter who is hurt. I guess BlueJay feels good that he’s harassing an elderly woman.

  130. RoaCH
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:10 pm | Permalink

    Well it took three posts but I think Will Clarkie finally got the message. (whew! Talk about dumbing down.)

  131. Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:11 pm | Permalink

    We haven’t seen “RoaCH” in awhile.

    I suppose it is a good thing that “Regular” is resurrecting old nics instead of constructing new ones. His mania must be tempered by age as much as his body is.

  132. WSClark
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:13 pm | Permalink

    CockRoaCH, are you doin’ KSGrandma? If you are, damn, I feel sorry for you.

    Try mixing bleach and ammonia in a closed room in large doses – it will be over quickly.

  133. RoaCH
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:15 pm | Permalink

    Bluejay it’s Saturday night. I’m going to join my family now for some nice talking and fellowship.

    You can stick around here and hope someone posts back to you. Try not to let you son see you multitasking with those porn sites while you wait with baited breath for someone ANYONE to talk to.

    Regular, it was a nice touch posting at exactly the same time at 11:10 PM.. I am disappointed I didn’t get called Hank. I didn’t want to be you. (no offense)

  134. Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:18 pm | Permalink

    “I’m going to join my family now for some nice talking and fellowship.”

    Hey how you and your sister interact late on a Saturday night is your own business.

  135. JimJohnson
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 11:45 pm | Permalink

    RoaCH
    Posted October 17, 2009 at 10:28 pm | Permalink
    In decades of research in collaboration with my Northeastern University colleague Jack Levin, certain common characteristics of mass killers emerge time and time again.

    First, the perpetrators tend to have experienced a long history of frustration and failure, resulting in a diminished ability to cope with life’s disappointments. Second, they typically externalize blame, frequently complaining that others didn’t give them a decent chance. Without this, their destructiveness would instead be directed inward.

    ===================================

    Sounds EXACTLY like BJ.

  136. Posted October 18, 2009 at 8:06 am | Permalink

    Okie — There are LOTS of Gods… for those who choose to believe in them….

    Any Pastor worth their salt will say the SAME thing… Sorry you are so friggin DUMB!!

  137. Posted October 18, 2009 at 8:07 am | Permalink

    Oh yea, GRANNY… There is no such thing as a Marine Chaplain… Look it up…

  138. JimJohnson
    Posted October 18, 2009 at 9:25 am | Permalink

    Phony Preacher isn’t in church at 8:00 am on Sunday?

  139. JimJohnson
    Posted October 18, 2009 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    Chas
    Posted October 18, 2009 at 8:06 am | Permalink
    Okie — There are LOTS of Gods… for those who choose to believe in them….

    Any Pastor worth their salt will say the SAME thing… Sorry you are so friggin DUMB!!

    ======================================

    Remember folks, how the Phony Preacher agreed with BJ’s attack on the Ten Commandments.

    Of course, the Phony Preacher does NOT believe in the Ten Commandments.

  140. JimJohnson
    Posted October 18, 2009 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    How many Gods does the Phony Preacher worship?

    A golden calf, perhaps?

  141. Boxlock20
    Posted October 18, 2009 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    Chas preaches his lies.
    He preaches the ‘world’, and not of the ‘Spirit’.
    Too bad, as there is a ’special’ place for those that lead others astray, away from the Spirit.
    Who am I to say that of him, it’s not me but the Word of God that does.

    “Wicked humans and swindlers will progressively get worse and worse, leading others astray and being led astray themselves.” — 2 Tim. 3:13 (CB)

    “But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.” – Matthew 18:6 ESV