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Your Sunday morning cartoon –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0UnN_OuQL4
Your Sunday morning hymn –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzWeN-bVDUc
Your Sunday morning sermon –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bObItmxAGc
Today the Pope is naming a bunch of new saints.
Including one from Hawaii.
What?!
After only 8 months in office?!
And once again Crowson gets it wrong. President Hussein DOES NOT NEED the Republicans to gain a “victory”. He has a majority congress, the end.
What is it that the dems can’t go ahead and accomplish something and accept the results, good or bad.
“What is it that the dems can’t go ahead and accomplish something and accept the results, good or bad.”
Results really matter! Something worth doing is worth doing well.
http://www.cliptoon.com/video/sarah_palin_cartoon.html
Herding cats is a good way to describe the Democratic party, I am not one for walking in lock step if you feel the party is taking a wrong path as is apparent. Issues should be decided based on what is the best and most correct path.
The usual Repugnicans on thjs blog must be in their Churches praying for their ‘ore Palin to save the day.
Their gods are weak and impotent loike they are.
DavidB
Posted October 10, 2009 at 11:32 pm | Permalink
And, dick wad, even the lousy Baucus Bill will lower the deficit, according to the CBO.
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This is what happens when people listen to the media, and fail to engage their brains. Most people will not get this. The public school system no longer provides the teaching tools for learning how to use basic math and come to a logical conclusion. David, like the media is taking this half a sentence and blowing it completely out of context.
Let us start with the exact words out of the CBO Report:
“On a preliminary basis, CBO and JCT estimate that the proposal’s specifications affecting health insurance coverage would result in a net increase in federal deficits of $518 billion over fiscal years 2010 through 2019. That estimate primarily reflects $345 billion in additional federal outlays for Medicaid and CHIP and $461 billion in federal subsidies that would be provided to purchase coverage through the new insurance exchanges and related spending. The other main element of the coverage provisions that would increase federal deficits is the tax credit for small employers who offer health insurance, which is estimated to reduce revenues by $23 billion over 10 years. Those costs would be partly offset by receipts or savings, totaling $311 billion over the 10-year budget window, from four sources: net revenues from the excise tax on high premium insurance plans, totaling $201 billion; penalty payments by uninsured individuals, which would amount to $4 billion; penalty payments by employers whose workers received subsidies via the exchanges, which
would total $23 billion; and other budgetary effects, mostly on tax revenues, associated with the expansion of federally subsidized insurance, which would reduce deficits by $83 billion.”
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/106xx/doc10642/10-7-Baucus_letter.pdf
Let’s break that down:
Increase to federal deficit:
$345 billion Medicaid & Chips
$461 billion federal subsidies
$23 billion small business tax credit
$829 billion total deficit increase under the Baucus Chairman’s mark
Increases to federal revenue:
$201 billion excise tax on high premium insurance
$4 billion penalty payments by uninsured
$23 billion penalty payments by employers
$83 billion other budgetary effects
$311 billion total revenue increase under the Baucus Chairmans Mark
Now we have revenue and expenses, so let’s go a step further:
$829 in deficit expenses
- $311 billion in revenue
518 increase to the national deficit
In other words THE BAUCUS MARK STILL INCREASES THE NATIONAL DEFICIT.
It just lowers it by less than previously thought. The 83 billion as you can see, is just a small part of the CBO report, when taken in context reveals our nation will continue spending half a trillion more dollars than we have.
But the uneducated public and media go wild!
going underground = switching nics for awhile.
Actual Rush Limbaugh Quotes:
Vanity Fair has a feature on the king of talk radio that includes a companion piece with these quotes:
1. “There is no conclusive proof that nicotine’s addictive… And the same thing with cigarettes causing emphysema, lung cancer, heart disease.”
2. “Columbus saved the Indians from themselves.”
3. “He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He’s moving all around and shaking and it’s purely an act… This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn’t take his medication or he’s acting.”
4. “ African Americans are twelve percent of the population. Who the hell cares?”
5. “Kurt Cobain was, ladies and gentlemen, a worthless shred of human debris.”
6. “Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream.”
7. “We are a growing country and everybody needs energy! We’re not going to stay the United States if we start reducing energy usage. Conservation is not the answer.”
8. To a black caller: “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.”
9. On torture at Abu Ghraib: “This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation. And we’re going to ruin people’s lives over it, and we’re going to hamper our military effort, and then we are going to really hammer them because they had a good time. You know, these people are being fired at every day. I’m talking about people having a good time, these people-you ever heard of emotional release? You ever heard of need to blow some team off?”
10. “Screw the world. Do you really think we ought to govern ourselves based on what the world thinks of us?”
Nice post at 11:27 BlogMonitor.
Let’s not also forget that the Baucus Bill is not a complete Bill at this point. It’s a concept, with talking points. The CBO cost estimate then, can only be a very rough estimate at this point.
Until the details are finalized in the form of a final Bill, the CBO cannot be expected to provide a more detailed, and better estimate of costs.
And one other thing to not forget, every Government program EXCEEDS its cost estimate. Government can’t control costs because they have no incentive to control costs. If they need more money, they simply borrow more and/or raise taxes.
And 1/2 the country is A-OK with this, since they pay little or no taxes and it’s not their money!
Thanks.
What is sad is how many Americans do not take the time to read the details. All people hear is, “THE BAUCUS PLAN LOWERS THE DEFICIT”.
But they don’t stop and ask themselves what that means.
In this case, the “preliminary plan” (still without details) will increase the deficit $518 billion dollars over the next ten years.
These projections assume that the proposals are enacted [as is without any changes] and remain unchanged throughout the next two decades, which is often not the case for major legislation.
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/106xx/doc10642/10-7-Baucus_letter.pdf
I’m against any plan that forces people to buy into insurance giants. That’s just what those insurance companies want us to do. Be mandated to send them money.
NO! There must be a public option!
And for those who claim that Limpballs isn’t a leader of the republicon party- I wish that were true. But he is the main voice of the cons and has been, his ratings are thru the roof, and your precious talking points almost always come from him whether or not you like to admit it.
If you want someone less hostile to set the tone for your party, start getting behind those who will speak out against him and Hannity and Beck.
Paragraph 4 of the cited CBO report:
“According to CBO and JCT’s assessment, enacting the Chairman’s mark, as amended, would result in a net reduction in federal budget deficits of $81 billion over the 2010–2019 period… In subsequent years, the collective effect of those provisions would probably be continued reductions in federal budget deficits.”
I think “net reduction” means a reduction.
net reduction in federal budget deficits of $81 billion over the 2010–2019 period…
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The Chairman’s Mark will increase the deficit $518 billion dollars over the next ten years.
The math above in my post is directly from the same report at the CBO as I provided.
You are picking what you WANT to believe. That’s fine, but it’s not truth.
CBO and JCT estimate that the proposal’s specifications affecting health insurance coverage would result in a net increase in federal deficits of $518 billion over fiscal years 2010 through 2019.
What you may be missing is that these are all “projections”.
It’s easier to understand maybe if I put it this way.
We were planning on building a Yacht IN THE FUTURE for One Million Dollars.
Instead, we are going to build a Yacht for 750,000 dollars.
This later plan will reduce the cost (defict spending) $250,000.00.
Get it?
In this case, we are still going to spend $750,000 of money we will have to borrow.
But on paper I can declare a victory! Pat each other on the back. Rush the legislation through.
” the proposal’s specifications affecting health insurance coverage would result in a net increase in federal deficits” – but those are offset by other specifications in the bill to create net reduction…
You are cherry picking the costs and ignoring the benefits and the cost reductions in the bill – and you are not even considering that the bill will make for a healthier America and a healthier economy.
This is not about just numbers, it’s about people.
This is not about just numbers, it’s about people.
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Well gee DavidB, why did you start this entire discussion on the budget deficit then?
DavidB
Posted October 10, 2009 at 11:32 pm | Permalink
And, dick wad, even the lousy Baucus Bill will lower the deficit, according to the CBO.
(I know. When you libs loose, you throw your bleeding hearts at logic.)
LOL! If getting Americans modern health care is “bleeding heart” stuff.. so be it!
If ya wanna sail, you need a boat!
DavidB I think you like to spin and change the subject matter when you have been defeated. Enjoy.
Saw a clip of Limbaugh being interviewed as a lead-in to being one of the Miss America pageant judges.
Basically, he said he had no ideology. He said he was doing it for money, and nothing more. In other words, he’ll do anything to build his audience and keep a certain segment of Americans listening to him. His entire motivation is money. Even he is getting sick of your stupidity. That’s why he wants to own a football team. At least that’s real.
Even when I pick up on Limbaugh as I am searching the radio dial, and listen to him for ten seconds, in that short period I know that what he is saying is B.S. That’s about the time that is required for the “scan” feature to pick out the next station.
I marvel and marvel. How can people be so damned stupid?
Well, just agree you defeated me, even thought the Baucus Bill will reduce the deficit over time.
Imagine you discover you have a treatable brain tumor, and your insurance company runs you around in circles for two years.
It happened to Dawn:
http://www.itcouldhappentoanyone.com/category/mystory/
Here’s the clip. The pertinent part is near the end.
Sorry about that. You can’t skip and clip. The total interview will be Monday, on the NBC Today show.
http://www.videosurf.com/video/limbaugh-chosen-to-judge-miss-america-pageant-85174914
For money; for ratings. But I suppose that’s right up the alley for Republicans. After all, you only goal is money, isn’t it?
Blog Mnitor’s initials are quite appropriate: BM
david b.if you would quit demonstrating your ignorance you would be much happier
So this makes Rush less the idiot than those who tune in so they can be whipped into a frenzy of hate.
this just in……..chavez doen’t think obama deserved the nobel…………….looks like obama should have apologized more for America
It is a burden to be as ignorant as I am. Thank you so much for pointing it out! ;-)
I am just very puzzled about how the Congressional Budget Office evaluation states that the Baucus Bill, as is, will reduce the deficit, while insuring millions of Americans and only some conservatives claim the CBO is wrong…
Is anyone able to make a few direct quotes of these many apologies alluded to here by the Naysayers?
david b….there you did it again………
To the UN:” I took office at a time when many around the world had come to view America with skepticism and distrust. Part of this was due to misperceptions and misinformation about my country. Part of this was due to opposition to specific policies, and a belief that on certain critical issues, America has acted unilaterally, without regard for the interests of others. And this has fed an almost reflexive anti-Americanism, which too often has served as an excuse for collective inaction.”
No apology there.. a little finger shaking at some anti-Americanism
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/24/us/politics/24prexy.text.html?pagewanted=all
Got a big healthy new baby in the family|?
You can’t get health insurance.
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_13530098
The top Google hits for Obama Apology Tour, like WSJ by Karl Rove. Not one direct full quote that demonstrates an apology.
This apology business is made up from whole cloth as far as I can tell.
DavidB, what did you expect from the CONS?? I mean, hey, they cant stand to have the President they HATE looking good in the rest of the world!!
It’s about time Obama and the entire Democrat Party start calling out the overly large amount of Anti-Americanism being touted by the CON ideology!
see what you did davidb…now chas is doing it………oops i forgot, he always has……….
One should never underestimate how completely the dumbing down of America has been achieved starting with the Great Communicator, for there was a time when an American President said it, it meant something. We and the world know that absolute must be rebuilt. Can you imagine being glued to the radio during the Cuban crisis feeling Kennedy was just shooting a line to scare us in aide of fabricating the sitation to satisfy a hidden agenda? BTW another poster said the NBI showed America the most admired nation again after years mired in the lower rankings. To show it wasn’t a fluke Gallup has now published the same findings, with the same explaination of Obama being elected and a global repudiation of America under Bush 43. Troll the foreign press from time to time and see who they are talking about and critizing these days….themselves!
wichhick is one of the yokuls who wants to see America fail… :-))
CBO: Baucus Faux Universal Health Care Bill to Leave 25 Million Uninsured
October 8, 2009 in Healthcare, Max Baucus, Regressives
“Sen. Max Baucus… is, not surprisingly, one of the biggest beneficiaries of this one-two punch from the lobbyists and their clients”
by JC
Nothing like spending $829 billion dollars and still having 25 million people, all legal citizens under the age of 65, left out of the health care insurance system under Baucus’ current reform “efforts.” You can read all the gory details at the CBO, if you have stomach for such things.
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DavidB please tell me why this bill is the be all to end all. We are spending hundreds of billions of dollars and we leave 25 million still uninsured. According to Obamas last infomercial there are around 30 million uninsured now.
So to cover 5 to 7 million more we will trash the system we currently have, bury future generations with a debt they will never repay while demanding a new tax levied on us all to implement a system that has already failed in every state that has tried it.
I am having a hard time feeling warm and fuzzy about this ’solution’.
Chas
Posted October 11, 2009 at 8:29 pm | Permalink
wichhick is one of the yokuls who wants to see America fail… :-))
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Wichhick is someone with enough sense to know a con game when they see one. If Obama told you that the sky was purple you would should it from the roof tops Chas while telling us the reason you know it is true is because Obama said it.
I missed the section where what is being trashed?
The part where being pregnant is a pre-existing condition which can be used to deny coverage? Or the part where your pre-existing condition might be that your husband beats you? Or the part where CIGNA gave Dawn a 2 year run around while her brain tumor went untreated?
There is enough head-room in the Baucus bill – which LOWERS the deficit, according to the CBO – to make additions to cover all American citizens, don’t you worry about that.
“3 shots that changed America” on the History channel.
This should be required viewing for every young American.
I was not yet born when President Kennedy was assassinated. That said?
What was WRONG in America?
What was wrong in Texas?
A man is accused of killing a cop and suddenly he killed the President TOO?? Just because it happened the same day? The supposed assassination weapon is paraded around without any thought to investigation? The supposed assassin is paraded past uncontrolled mobs SEVERAL times? His transfer to another location in widely announced in advance?
No wonder most Americans think it was a conspiracy. Watching this after the fact, I am embarrassed that the Justice system in Texas is allowed to even be associated with the United States. Unbelievable!
I get that the nation was in shock. I get that the right had never fed them anything like this before.
But where were the cries for the integrity of investigation and the pursuit of truth?
I believe more strongly than ever that Kennedy was murdered by cons who he was just not right wing enough to please.
It was a long time ago. 1963? And the cops all knew Jack Ruby, they went to his strip club.
There was no thought given to security. Even at the funeral, heads of state mingled with regular citizens.
“There was no thought given to security.”
It looks to me like they were inviting someone to kill the only suspect in a Presidential assassination.
I have never bought that Oswald did the shoot or did it alone. Even in public reaction of the time, you have the con on the street denouncing that the right could possibly have ANY role in the murder of a semi progressive leader.
If it happened now? There would be blood in the streets. America has grown up alot.
Jay, just be aware… It COULD happen now… I have said it before, and I will keep on saying it…
I’m thinking about then.
A semi progressive President murdered in a conservative state with complete and total incompetence in the investigation….
While a Texas son inherited the Presidency.
If I had been alive then, I think I would have made any conservatives I knew of to at least FEEL most unsafe.
blue Jay=== a legend in his own mind.
“Freebird1971″ = in need of a meeting.
myob
“Freebird1971″ –
And yours is “BlueJay’s?”
Okay.
Got it.
Wish I understood this secret code. Well, maybe on the other hand…
On this blog, some are everyone’s business it seems. BlueJay does have many faithful fans who can always be counted on to make his business their business.
“Freebird” sings…
“Hopelessly devoted to you
“‘If it happened now? There would be blood in the streets. America has grown up alot.”
Does anyone else see anything idiotic in the above statement?
Blue Jay,
I do agree with you that there is much more to JFK situation that meets the eye. A good book on the subject is “Best Evidence”,the book deals with JFK’s body as the most crucial piece of evidence in the case and how the chain of evidence was broken in regards to blocks of time where the whereabouts of the body was unknown. There is a bit of local flavor to the book,the commander of the casket team was a Lt Byrd from Wichita,who was interviewed aboiut his role during the first few hours.
I was 10 when JFK was assinated and looking back that seems to be the the staring point of distrust in government.