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Any news in this morning’s Wichita Eagle? Here’s a headline, “Free thermostats offer ….” And another, “EPA warns of danger of gases in basements.” zzzzz.
Note: ask Eagle editors for a separate throw-away section for these kind of filler articles.
Rush, Flatulence in broadcasting, Limbaugh wants to buy the St Louis Rams. Good luck with that. According to Open Secrets.com, the Rams gave 98% of their political contributions to Democrats, so changing the clubs political leanings may be a problem.
Then there’s the fact just about every black player in the league has indicated they will refuse to play for him, due to his racist leanings. So ElRushblo might have to content himself with an all white, Republican team. Good luck filling a stadium with that.
But one only has to peruse the top ten reasons why Senior Druggy will have a difficult time getting his bid past the owners:
01. Rush compared black football players on the field to fighting gang members.
02. Rush can’t let go of his enmity with McNabb and the Eagles.
03. Limbaugh thinks Michael Vick’s dog murder is funny.
04. Rush will surely attract scores of female fans to the Edward Jones Dome.
05. Rush will help promote the NFL’s youth health initiatives.
06. Rush has a strong knowledge of sports gambling.
07. Rush will not welcome liberals at Edward Jones Dome.
09. Rush is ready to liquidate a couple of NFL teams.
10. Rush has compared other football owners to rapists.
Global cooling or warming, who knows for sure. We can’t control it with our money and the politicians say so.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm
Why is it that the libs pay so much attention to the extremist Limbaugh, when people with working brain cells know he is an extremist who is not in touch with reality?
Most people I know could not possibly care less what rush thinks, says or does. But, the libs on this blog continually quote him, remark about him, and in capn’s case, actually ‘research’ him. Why the facsination with that weirdo? Granted, some out of touch libs point to rush and “knowingly proclaim” that rush is representative of all Republicans. Not true, but then again, truth and facts don’t seem to be in big demand anymore, do they?
Raptor,
You are correct. I cant remember the last time I heard a con say anything about what Rush said on his show,seems the libs ALWAYS are the ones to bring him up,why I have no idea,maybe because they all think in lock step the otherside does too.
Raptor
Posted October 10, 2009 at 9:17 am | Permalink
Freebird1971
Posted October 10, 2009 at 9:22 am | Permalink
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It’s about football, people. Rush trying to buy a team is news. What do you have against news?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…..your list of 10 hate points on rush and you claim it is about football? oh puhleeeze, that is one of the lamest attempts at backpedaling I have ever seen….
“HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…..your list of 10 hate points on rush and you claim it is about football?”
Sounds defensive for someone who just said Rush wasn’t relevant to his politics.
“Raptor” —
Take that up with “ANTI,” who quotes Limbaugh frequently in this forum Take that up with all the RepubiCONs who lick Rush’s balls and soles whenever they get the chance.
Like it or not, CONs are afraid to ‘fess up the insanity of the likes of Glenn O’Hannity. Last night “okobserver” oozed love for Hannity that could have passed as an audition for the geriatric bus-and-truck revival of “Bye, Bye, Birdie.” (”okobserver” is no Ann-Margaret, btw)
“mh” that doesn’t begin to explain the libs obsession with rush.
Bet if libs quit listening to Rush his ratings would drop like a rock
Raptor,
Is there a person you think does a good job of being a spokesperson for the Republican Party?
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Raptor
Posted October 10, 2009 at 9:50 am | Permalink
“mh” that doesn’t begin to explain the libs obsession with rush.
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Libs are hardly “obsessed” with rush. way less so then you cons are obsessed with Obama. But, after all, each is the leader of his respective party.
And as for the ten reasons?
But one only has to peruse the top ten reasons why Senior Druggy will have a difficult time getting his bid past the owners.
It has everything to do with football, but being able to both read and comprehend is something obviously beyond you both.
I guess they have worn themselves out over the honor bestowed upon the President by the Nobel Committee, which he then honored us with by dedicating his acceptance to we who seek justice and peace.
Gotta love Secretary Clinton’s Department of State –
“Certainly from our standpoint, this gives us a sense of momentum — when the United States has accolades tossed its way, rather than shoes.”
Obama’s “Abu Ghraib” in Afghanistan Is Being Covered Up!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/10/congress-poised-detainee-abuse-photos-hidden/
Congress Poised to Keep Detainee Abuse Photos Hidden
Congress is set to allow the Pentagon to keep new pictures of foreign detainees abused by their U.S. captors from the public, a move intended to end a legal fight over the photographs’ release that has reached the Supreme Court.
AP
Saturday, October 10, 2009
Congress is set to allow the Pentagon to keep new pictures of foreign detainees abused by their U.S. captors from the public, a move intended to end a legal fight over the photographs’ release that has reached the Supreme Court.
Federal courts have so far rejected the government’s arguments against the release of 21 color photographs showing prisoners in Afghanistan and Iraq being abused by Americans.
The Obama administration believes giving the imminent grant of authority over the release of such pictures to the defense secretary would short-circuit a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union.
Dang, so much for Cap and Trade…guess it’s back to the old drawing board then.
Nonsense! We’ll put the taxes through anyway!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm
“Can’t argue with the science, yuck yuck yuck”…
As great as some of the discoveries that they have made, diseases they have halted and mouse traps they have bettered…
Scientists are still just guessing douchebags.
Speaking of football, KU gonna kick a little Iowa but today. Gotta get those honeydo’s done early this AM.
Game time comes early.
5/7/2004
Democrats call for Rumsfeld’s ouster
WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic members of Congress began calling Thursday for Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld’s resignation over the U.S. military’s abuse of Iraqi prisoners, but the White House reaffirmed President Bush’s support of the embattled Cabinet officer.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-05-07-rumsfeld-preview_x.htm
Any Democrats calling for Secretary of Defense Robert Gates to Resign over Hidden Afghanistan Prison Photos?
Monkey just for the record I don’t usually listen to Hannity. I am an HGTV watcher. BJ made a point of telling us to watch Moore take on Hannity and I decided to watch the first night. Then watched the second half last night.
Moore made no points. He is the hypocrite Hannity painted him to be. Put down capitalism in he latest movie while living the good life because of it.
Praised the Cuban healthcare system and Hannity showed him pictures taken in Cuba hospitals with rodent droppings everywhere and cockroaches visible. Even pointed out that you had to bring your own toliet paper.
I have no love affair with Hannity or Rush. They serve their purpose. They get out facts that the MSM doesn’t. On one of them I saw CNN try to dispute the facts in a SNL skit about what Obama has actually accomplished. They said nothing and Blitzer tried to say that wasn’t actually factual. A new low – arguing with a comedy skit.
Interesting dialogue with BJ. He really is disconnected with reality and so is any lib that thinks Moore is anything but a movie maker trying to make his next buck.
We’re all in this together. We have met the enemy and we aren’t it. Politicans on both sides have played us like a cheap set of drums and we attack each other.
Oh well – hope there is a good football game on today. My Sooners are a big disappointment this year.
JM you need to do a better job of picking your enemies. Rush is an entertainer. He doesn’t wrtie laws. Doesn’t vote on legislation. Doesn’t sign bills that land on his desk.
These things affect our lifes daily
5/24/2004
Democrats urge hearings in Abu Ghraib scandal
CongressDaily May 24, 2004
The top three House Democratic leaders sent a letter to House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., Monday requesting he call for committee hearings to investigate the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal.
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0504/052404cdpm1.htm
Any Democrats calling for Hearings to investigate the Afghanistan Prison Hidden Photos?
Hannity showed him pictures taken in Cuba hospitals ..
He DID? Moore pointed out that there was no proof the video was from a hospital.
It is interesting the liberals are the ones quoting, posting, and talking about Rush and Glenn Beck.
It’s not the “cons”.
Says a lot about the viewership contributing to their ratings.
“We’re all in this together. ”
That’s what Michael Moore said. Hanniy and you and your party will have none of it. It seems we’re only “all it together” to get the rich richer. I’ll pass on that. You and Hannity and your like are going to have to be MADE to be more ….helpful.
Hannity sure doesn’t want to talk about how much he makes. No doubt it would dispel his image as “one of us”.
Well BJ I have to say there was just as much proof that those videos were taken in a Cuban hospital as there is for the videos Moore used in his movie.
Do you doubt those also. After listening to both of them talk I respect where Hannity is coming from more than Moore who was shown to be a hypocrite.
I admire Hannity for his work is raising money every year to make sure that the children of any soldier killed will be guarranteed a college education is they want one. He has raised millions for this.
What can Moore point to as a positive plan he has carried out? Truth will out and Moore lost the battle.
“I admire Hannity for his work is raising money every year to make sure that the children of any soldier killed will be guarranteed a college education is they want one. He has raised millions for this.”
Can you say creative accounting and tax deduction?
I thought you could.
I can tolerate Rush only for his five minute early morning tirade. Not that he doesn’t have good points daily, but he really loves himself too much for my liking.
Glenn Beck started off on television o.k., but he has gotten theatrical with his weeping, teary eyed, dramatics. Not that he doesn’t have lot’s of good points daily.
I’m thinking these are entertainers first, who have smartly tied into the pulse of the nonconforming anti-far left Americans. Like a good ole preachers in the tent revivals, they are just playing on the peoples needs.
Just yin yang the Obama/liberal dogma, but they have commercialized it to make money using free enterprise. Ditto the libs using socialized redistribution..
Bluejay says:
“You and Hannity and your like are going to have to be MADE to be more ….helpful.”
You and what army do you plan to do to make this happen. I and others like me have worked very hard and are still working to make the life we enjoy. You however are a parasite on society. Those 27 millions that the CBO says won’t get healtcare – well don’t be surprised that you are probably in that number.
I could trade insults with you all day but no useful purpose would be served. Have a great if cold Saturday.
george
Posted October 10, 2009 at 8:54 am | Permalink
Global cooling or warming, who knows for sure. We can’t control it with our money and the politicians say so.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm
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Hey George, maybe we should produce more CO2 so we don’t freeze for the next 20 years or so.
Watch the neo-eco-facists attack Easterbrook for spitting on the sidewalk.
from the link:
“What is really interesting at the moment is what is happening to our oceans. They are the Earth’s great heat stores.
According to research conducted by Professor Don Easterbrook from Western Washington University last November, the oceans and global temperatures are correlated.
The oceans, he says, have a cycle in which they warm and cool cyclically. The most important one is the Pacific decadal oscillation (PDO).
For much of the 1980s and 1990s, it was in a positive cycle, that means warmer than average. And observations have revealed that global temperatures were warm too.
But in the last few years it has been losing its warmth and has recently started to cool down.
These cycles in the past have lasted for nearly 30 years.
So could global temperatures follow? The global cooling from 1945 to 1977 coincided with one of these cold Pacific cycles.
Professor Easterbrook says: “The PDO cool mode has replaced the warm mode in the Pacific Ocean, virtually assuring us of about 30 years of global cooling.”
” tied into the pulse of the nonconforming anti-far left Americans”
tied into the pulse of the nonconforming Americans opposed to the far left.
[coffee to game time beer transition]
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okobserver
Posted October 10, 2009 at 10:52 am | Permalink
JM you need to do a better job of picking your enemies. Rush is an entertainer. He doesn’t wrtie laws. Doesn’t vote on legislation. Doesn’t sign bills that land on his desk.
These things affect our lifes daily
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Then why do the Republicans have to bow to him if they dis him in any way? BTW, rush is no enemy of mine, in fact, I would regard him as both a joke and a racist. I am curious, though, to see what becomes of his bid for the Rams.
Mr. Hannity came to Wichita once several years ago.
He did a book signing at Central Christian church.
The monolith of glass and steel up on North Rock road? Yeah.
I took Al Franken’s book “Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them”. I wanted to have Sean autograph the page where Franken proves Hannity is a liar. I thought that would be a cool souvenir.
I never got inside. Three of Hannity’s goons or maybe they were goons from the church turned me away. One of them knocked me down in front of my son.
I was armed only with a book.
I didn’t get the souvenir. But my son got a good look at the right that day. I hope he never forgets.
Linda…
The spokesman for the GOP is RNC Chairman Ken Mehlman. But, since he isn’t a nut job extremist, people don’t research him, quote him, or waste countless hours listening to him to prove something.
rush is not the spokesman for the GOP, nor does he make sense much of the time. I heard part of his show one time when I was in a car with someone who had that station on. I found it moderately entertaining, but am amazed that anyone could take what he says seriously.
Beck Show/Obama Show
“You and what army do you plan to do to make this happen. ”
Tick tock. The irony you cons can’t see is you are creating the very wave that will wash you away.
Gitmo East?
An undeniable part of that war effort is maintaining (and expanding) the detention facility at Bagram Air Field. Currently the facility holds a reported 600 detainees, most of whom are Afghans.
Efforts to extend access to U.S. courts to people held there have been largely unsuccessful. Last April, however, Judge John Bates ruled that those held at Bagram who were neither Afghans nor captured in the Afghan theatre are eligible for the right to habeas corpus and other legal protections. Yet the Obama administration is challenging this ruling, seeking to deny the right to Bagram inmates that the Supreme Court upheld for those at Guantánamo.
As Melissa Goodman, a staff attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), told ABC News in August that little is known about those detained at Bagram. “We don’t know who they are or how long they’ve been there,” she said. “They don’t have any access to counsel or access to courts.” The ACLU sued under the Freedom of Information Act for basic data on the detainees, but Pentagon officials denied the request in July.
http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/6479
Iowa is going to be limping back home. It’s going to be a quiet bus on I-35, I80, and I380.
Very Bad News: Afghanistan’s Bagram Air Base Will Be Obama’s Guantanamo
The Afghan air base is to undergo a $60 million expansion, allowing it to hold five times as many prisoners as remain at Gitmo.
Less than a month after signing an executive order to close the Guantanamo Bay prison camp, President Barack Obama has quietly agreed to keep denying the right to trial to hundreds more terror suspects held at a makeshift camp in Afghanistan that human rights lawyers have dubbed “Obama’s Guantanamo.”
In a single-sentence answer filed with a Washington court, the administration dashed hopes that it would immediately rip up Bush-era policies that have kept more than 600 prisoners in legal limbo and in rudimentary conditions at the Bagram air base, north of Kabul.
Now, human rights groups say they are becoming increasingly concerned that the use of extra-judicial methods in Afghanistan could be extended rather than curtailed under the new U.S. administration. The air base is about to undergo a $60 million expansion that will double its size, meaning it can house five times as many prisoners as remain at Guantanamo.
http://www.alternet.org/rights/128273/
The key point Moore skewered Hannity on?
Hannity says there are ONLY 12 million people who will go without health care.
“Only” ….12 MILLION Americans.
And the amazing thing is, Hannity couldn’t even see how much Moore was making a shame of him.
“ONLY” 12 million
09/21/2009
The Forgotten Guantanamo
Prisoner Abuse Continues at Bagram Prison in Afghanistan
By Matthias Gebauer, John Goetz and Britta Sandberg
US President Barack Obama has spoken out against CIA prisoner abuse and wants to close Guantanamo. But he tolerates the existence of Bagram military prison in Afghanistan, where more than 600 people are being held without charge. The facility makes Guantanamo look like a “nice hotel,” in the words of one military prosecutor.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,650242,00.html
Hey Sean?
It’s only money.
This will only hurt a little bit!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm
To confuse the issue even further, last month Mojib Latif, a member of the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) says that we may indeed be in a period of cooling worldwide temperatures that could last another 10-20 years…..
So what can we expect in the next few years?
Both sides have very different forecasts. The Met Office says that warming is set to resume quickly and strongly.
It predicts that from 2010 to 2015 at least half the years will be hotter than the current hottest year on record (1998).
Sceptics disagree. They insist it is unlikely that temperatures will reach the dizzy heights of 1998 until 2030 at the earliest. It is possible, they say, that because of ocean and solar cycles a period of global cooling is more likely.
One thing is for sure. It seems the debate about what is causing global warming is far from over. Indeed some would say it is hotting up.
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Algore and the elitists are going to lose millions in carbon credits if they don’t ram legislation through quickly.
The price of energy in the future will surely be expensive with a low supply/high demand market.
“A new low – arguing with a comedy skit.” [okie]
Sort of like back when Dan Quayle started a vendetta on a TV series… eh???
“okobserver” –
Have you ever seen a Michael Moore movie?
Seriously.
Most CONs strut around about how they wouldn’t lower themselves to watch one.
But you comment about scenes from “Sicko” as if you’re familiar with them.
So which is it?
Sorry, lady, but you come into this forum and parrot the same GOP talking points I hear on the (cluster) Fox Noise Channel all the time.
Perhaps you get ‘em from another source. Osmosis or something. But it strains credulity when WE Blog CONs recite the same phraseology and nuance as Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, and O’Reilly and feign ignorance of the source. Of the obvious source.
It’s become entertaining, reading how WE Blog CONs swear up and down they don’t listen to media CONs who recite the Talking Points of the Day.
You claimed Hannity slapped Moore around on his show and now claim you just happened to trip across those two programs while randomly channel-surfing. Yeah, I believe that. Right after believing in Santa Claus and just before the Tooth Fairy.
If you’re so indoctrinated you don’t even recognize the indoctrination, you’re a true believer.
Can’t argue with that.
I think more then what they say, it is the viewer ship of the likes of Rush to name one that is the more frightening. There will always be the one who thinks handicap jokes are funny to themselves.
But the real telling is the number of people that will also laugh when that person tell a handicap joke.
Rush, O’Reilly, Beck all come from a point of paranoia, “they are after me!”.
There is a grand conspiracy and only they are able to see it. But then based on the numbers of viewers they are not the only ones feeling paranoid.
Like all conspiracy nuts, they can point to individual incidences that are not joined. To make it seem a reasonable conspiracy. So either the listener finds that that there seems to be evidence. Or to feed their already pre-possessed conclusion that there is a grand conspiracy.
writerdog —
Sort of reminds me of an old joke from Seminary days…
The Bible proves the elasticity of human skin… The Bible says that Moses tied his ass to a tree, and walked 40 miles…
“I never got inside. Three of Hannity’s goons or maybe they were goons from the church turned me away. One of them knocked me down in front of my son.” – BJ
Hey BJ, I know the head security guy at CCC. He would know if anything like that happened the night you are refering to.
The attendence exceeded capacity and many were turned away. If you were thrown out the way you say you were, you must have tried to force or sneak your way in.
Well…… time for football!!! Y’all have a nice cool Saturday in Wichita… Texans are in the upper 50’s… They think Winter has arrived early… LOL
“He would know if anything like that happened the night you are refering to. ”
It was not at night. It was late afternoon.
The attendence exceeded capacity and many were turned away.
Funny. I saw no people waiting in line out or inside the doors.
Chas
Posted October 10, 2009 at 11:23 am | Permalink
“A new low – arguing with a comedy skit.” [okie]
Sort of like back when Dan Quayle started a vendetta on a TV series… eh???
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Chas hating to point out the obvious. CNN is a news source. They are supposed to report the news. Dan Quayle is/was a politician. Politicans often look at values being presented in entertainment venues. New sources report the news.
Monkeyhawk again shows how he bows down in front of the alter he has set up in front of his mirror which are surrounded by portaits of Marx, Alinski and Mao who also embraced the Humanist manifesto.
Monkey no where did I say I ‘randomly came across’ Hannity. I purposefully watched it because BJ announ ced that Michael Moore was a scheduled guest. At least get your facts straight.
No I haven’t watched any of his movies. I have however seen many outtakes from them. I also listened to this interview and heard the man in action. He is a hypocrite. Hannity showed him up for this.
“Like all conspiracy nuts, they can point to individual incidences that are not joined. To make it seem a reasonable conspiracy. So either the listener finds that that there seems to be evidence. Or to feed their already pre-possessed conclusion that there is a grand conspiracy.”
Chas posted the above. Wonder if he and Writer see BJ in these words because I sure do.
Writer there you go again. Funny how you see yourself but your words show an altogether different person.
Rush lost me more than twenty years ago when he first began making his opinions of females public. There are plenty of men who respect females to spend a second of time on one who doesn’t. If he says anything that makes sense, I won’t hear it!
When I asked Raptor who he thinks does a good job of being a spokesperson for the Republican Party, I didn’t mean a person whose every word and opinion is one he agrees with. I meant the person who most of the time represents the accepted Republican stance on an issue.
I recognize we’re all individuals.
Usually I find Olbermann way over the top, if not in his opinions almost always in his delivery, so I don’t tune in his show. But recently he did an hour long special about health care that came highly recommended and although I still found his delivery difficult to sit through, his message was excellent! I would have preferred to read his words rather than listen to them.
I think President Obama does a good job of representing the political philosophy I share. That doesn’t mean I always agree, but more often than not. John McCain seems to have come back to the person he was in 2000 and I often respect his opinions nowadays. I respect Secretary of State Clinton and listen when she speaks rather than the interpretation of anyone who reports the news. I also listen when Defense Secretary Gates speaks.
I find Paul Krugman worth reading often, Robert Reich usually offers discussions and opinions worthy of my time. I read at NPR, BBC and Reuters. I don’t listen to much television news unless it’s to tune in a speech and then I pay no attention to the people who tell us what will be said beforehand and interpret what was said afterward. I do listen to CSPAN and hear directly from members of Congress when they speak. Now that’s often difficult but I persevere on important issues. I would love to have cameras always present and their every word recorded — that would bring much-needed accountability!
All of the 24 hour news stations have ‘talent’ I find over the top. I do like to watch Jon Stewart! I like his irreverence to politicians and politics in general.
Who do the Conservative posters think does a good job of representing Republican political philosophy most of the time?
http://www.examiner.com/x-5738-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m10d7-VIDEO–Following-SNL-skit-Obama-continues-to-be-pressed-to-accomplish-more
Very interesting article and videos. Even the comedians are seeing that Obama is all talk and no action so far. We need this rock star to get down to the business of governing.
BJ, It was from 5 to 7PM in March. That means it was almost dark at the end. I was there for a meeting at 7 and couldn’t find a parking place and I had to park at Walmart. The police were directing traffic on Rock Rd.
Not making things up are you? Are you trying to tell us you were thrown out because of a book????
I recently watched “Ferinheight 9-11”, Moore is guilty of what I accuse most Liberal media types of.His may have facts on his side and the subject matter is important and serious. But in the attempt to reveal and conclude they get too creative.
Soon the real meaning and subject matter is over ridden by the colorful and witty.
The only real revelation for me in Ferinheight 9-11, was that on inauguration day the Limo that newly elected G.W. Bush was riding in was egged by the crowd. Moore did follow the simplest explanation for the invasion of Iraq as being about oil and greed. It was not that simple in reality though played a part in it.
Many players and many motivation to it.
But Michael Moore movies are like getting the news of you having terminal cancer from a Doctor in a clown suit and honking a horn while prancing around the office in his over-sized shoes. Somehow the revelation is lost in the performance.
The CONS tried pegging Bill Clinton as an entertainer/rock star too… Didnt work then… isnt working on Obama either!!
Maybe the CONS need to look up the REAL definition of “Community Organizer” –
Chas one of my grandmother’s favor stories of a sermon was the day her pastor was talking about Samson slaying the Philistines. “And he slew them with the jaw bone of a horse’s ass!”
Dead silence for a few seconds, then finally the Pastor said “Well you all know what I mean!”.
One of mine is while in Sunday school the teacher pointed to my best friend and shouted.
“You what does this mean, We all fall short of the glory of God!”.
My friend is one of those when put on the moment, said what ever first comes to his mind.
He sheepishly said, “we are all short sinners?”.
“Chas hating to point out the obvious. CNN is a news source. They are supposed to report the news. Dan Quayle is/was a politician. Politicans often look at values being presented in entertainment venues. New sources report the news.” [okie]
Okie, hating to point out the obvious, but when Dan Quayle went on his stupid vendetta about a TV Show… FICTION, ya know, It was a huge NEWSD item for several weeks… Or, have you forgotten about that particular kerfuffel??? hmmmmm???
favor should have been favorite
You’ve got to put criticisms of President Obama in perspective. Those who disagree with him have an easy solution to their complaints — they only need to elect someone they do agree with. In the meantime he is president and I don’t know why anyone would expect him to pursue any agenda other than his own, and in his own way.
I’m eager for the day when the strengths of Republicans are heard as often as the complaints. When their ideas are heard as often as their opposition to President Obama is.
I tend to agree with you Linda…
What are the Republican strengths on Labor Unions?
What are the Republican strengths on Womens’ Reproduction Rights??
What are the Republican strengths on Religion in Government??
What are the Republican strengths on Drug and Alcohol Rehabilitation??
What are the Republican strengths on Foreign Policy and Terrorism??
What are the Republican strengths on World Trade??
What are the Republican strengths on Health Care — both domestic, and world wide??
Just to name a few…
WHY is it that all we hear is ANTI-Obama??
Sometimes, my mind wanders back to 1964, and I find myself asking: “What might our Nation look like today, if Goldwater would have defeated Johnson??
I sort of look back to Goldwater, and see him as the last of the truly good Republicans…
Goldwater warned and too few listened.
“It was from 5 to 7PM in March.”
I don’t recall the month. It was not dark when I arrived.
“The police were directing traffic on Rock Rd. ”
Not when I arrived they weren’t. And that was at the beginning.
You wouldn’t be making stuff up would you?
“Are you trying to tell us you were thrown out because of a book????”
I didn’t make any secret of the book I was carrying.
BlueJay
Posted October 10, 2009 at 11:09 am | Permalink
I never got inside. Three of Hannity’s goons or maybe they were goons from the church turned me away. One of them knocked me down in front of my son.
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So what did you do about it?
If you were assaulted, did you call the cops?
Or was it the cops who knocked you on your a $ $?
Poor, poor, pitiful BJ, everybody always be smacking him around.
BlueJay
Posted October 10, 2009 at 12:33 pm | Permalink
“Are you trying to tell us you were thrown out because of a book????”
I didn’t make any secret of the book I was carrying.
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OH, I’m sure BJ wasn’t being mouthy at all. Nobody would perceive BJ to be some smart-a $ $ chump with a chip on his shoulder.
Linda I hope this doesn’t throw you into shock but you and I agree on almost everything you said. Jon Stewart is one of my favorites because he is fair and balanced. Everyone is fair game.
I listen to CSpan while I work most of the time. It isn’t something I could sit down and watch long time. But I listen and hear some interesting discussions.
I listen to talk radio when I am out and about. It is usually pretty entertaining. If they start to take themselves too seriously I switch to country music so I am aware of who is Paisley and Swift are.
A republican I can listen to and feel he/she is fair in how thye presents issues – hard question. On the healthcare there are three doctors currently in the congress. They know what of they speak and give some good ideas about how to heal the many problems with our current system.
I find that the foreign news media give us a more concise picture of what is happening here than any of our printed media. They don’t get into the politics of reporting just tell it like it is.
I also read Drudge most days because he is a compliation of all of the news sources both local and foreign. You can find just about any story you want to know more about here with no lib or con slant in choosing what to post.
don…it is obvious by now that nothing bj claims can be believed. bj reminds me of a little yapping dog, jumping around and yapping constantly with one purpose, getting people to ‘look at me, look at me’. bj invents things for that goal…not worth responding to.
I will be the first to say that the republicans lost this election probably more than the democrats won it. The conservative principles of the party had eroded in the massive spending Bush was doing. We were a nation divided over two wars that many felt shouldn’t have happened. Obama was able to energize the youth with his message of change and hope. The republicans were forced into the nomination of a candidate they really couldn’t support.
The democrats won it fair and square. I was willing to support our new prez but can’t follow him down a path that long term I feel would be disaster for our country. There have to be checks and balances. This is why I thought it was wrong when the repubs had all three branches.
No one I know wants this country to fail. Many however hope that the policies of this administration will be tempered by good common sense. You can’t spend you way out of a potential bankruptsy.
Obama’s Socialist policies are causing great harm to America.
Obama’s policies must fail, if America is to continue to be the place of opportunity that millions still flock to from around the world.
So far, Obama’s policies are failing, and America is getting far worse.
Unemployment- worse.
Deficit- worse.
Debt- worse.
Iraq- still there.
Afghanistan- worse.
North Korea- now has the bomb.
Iran- working ont he bomb.
Corporate Bailouts & Takeovers- worse.
What’s getting better?
Oh, Obama won a prize! Whoopee!
Well let’s see Raptor.
Did Hannity come here? Why yes he did.
Did he appear at the venue I said he did? Check.
Was I right about the time of day, which I earlier corrected “don” on? Well he says so.
But then, it does not much matter to me what a con thinks.
They so seldom do it.
In other words, BJ made-up a story about a mean Con knocking him down in front of his boy.
For what?
Sympathy?
Or to show that he truly can’t stand up for himself?
Maybe you cons can tell us why Michael Steele, Chairman of the Republican National Comittee chairman felt the need to apologize to Rush Limbaugh for this statement of fact?
“Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer. Rush Limbaugh — his whole thing is entertainment. He has this incendiary — yes, it’s ugly.”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19517.html
“No one I know wants this country to fail. Many however hope that the policies of this administration will be tempered by good common sense. You can’t spend you way out of a potential bankruptsy.”
So you are saying in oder to “help” the country, we have to let the economy completely crash? Federal spending for job creation is a bad idea?
So, FDR’s administration accomplished nothing in getting us out of a depression. The debt created by FDR was paid back during the recovery of the 1950’s was it not? There is reason to think this cannot be replicated now because of what?
I tend to believe the story. If it was made from whole cloth, he would have ‘known’ exactly who pushed him.
I can imagine Blue Bird being in their faces like that…
Steven I give as evidence of what I said: Obama said if the stimulus was passed unemployment wouldn’t stay below 8%. It passed. Unemployment is now approaching 10%.
Facts don’t lie. Maybe it’s what the money has been spent on. Where are the jobs we were promised. I see all around me small businesses going under for lack of money. Credit is so tight they can’t get any. Some that might have made it through the bad times won’t be around for the recovery because the money is being spent on something other that job creation.
Those are facts Steven. I know because I am a small business operator. We have been in business for a long time and I see some companies that started about the time we did shutting their doors. More unemployed because the stimulus went to pay back political debts and not for job creation.
It happens in both parties but right now it is happening in the democrat party. Your guys are in charge. Their policies are failing. What are they doing about it?
“Steven I give as evidence of what I said: Obama said if the stimulus was passed unemployment wouldn’t stay below 8%. It passed. Unemployment is now approaching 10%.” [okie]
WHY do you have such a gawd awful time with reading and hearing comprehension… Obama said unemployment would stay around 8% by the end of THE YEAR…
Okie, This is October 10…. not December 31… Come back and talk about unemployment at the end of the YEAR….
Obama ALSO stated clearly that there would be a lot of hard times, until this economy thing works itself out…. You somehow expect that to happen in NINE MONTHS, after it took YEARS to get where we are now??? How utterly FOOLISH, and disingenuous you are….
Okie… how long did it take you to make your FIRST DOLLAR of Profit, after you guys started your own business??? Hmmmm???
Please note I didnt ask how much you made… Just so you dont try your usual diversionary tactics…. :-))
“More unemployed because the stimulus went to pay back political debts and not for job creation.” [okie]
EXACTLY what political debts were “paid back” with any of the Stimulus funds??
NAME THEM…. and provide links….
Chas I will be charitable and give him until the end of the year. I won’t give him a second stimulus package as they are advocating now. However you put words in his mouth to satisfy your own viewpoint because that isn’t what he said but I won’t split hairs.
BTW we made money the first month we were in business. We had a good business plan. A budget in place. Knew we would all be working long hours with little pay until the cash flow picked up. And just generally used good judgement and knew we couldn’t spend money we didn’t have.
None of these exemplify the Obama administration.
The government is not some tiny business. It is a government.
Let’s chalk up 3 – 4 % of the unemployment to bad management practices and business owners living too high on the hog…
No one will ever know what an Obama Administration would have been if he hadn’t been forced to address America’s part of a world-wide financial collapse. As it is, his actions saved our economy from falling into depression. There are signs of improvement, but another year or maybe more of double digit unemployment won’t surprise me. This was no minor recession and we are far from financial stability, much work is left to do.
Here’s some thoughts from Robert Reich that make sense to me:
“The stimulus is working but it is far from adequate. Before the stimulus, we were losing more than 500,000 jobs a month. Now that 40 percent of the stimulus has been spent, we are losing more than 250,000 jobs a month.
What to do? With the debt ceiling approaching and the gravitational pull of the 2010 elections increasing, the White House can’t go back to Congress with a formal bill to enlarge the stimulus package. Four simpler moves would be to:
(1) Use existing authority under both the stimulus package enacted earlier this year and the nefarious TARP bailout fund — extending and combining them into a fund to make up for state and local cuts in public school budgets, childrens’ health, public health (we need workers to administer swine flu vaccine) and public transportation. Instead of bailing out banks and giant automakers, we should switch to bailing out public services that average people need.
(2) Propose a one-year payroll tax holiday on the first $20,000 of income. Republicans as well as Blue Dog Dems could go along with this, and it would be a highly progressive tax cut since 80 percent of Americans pay more in payroll taxes than they do in income taxes.
(3) Give small businesses a “new jobs tax credit” for every net new job created over the next year. Granted, under normal circumstances this sort of jobs credit doesn’t have much effect, and it’s difficult to separate hires that would have happened anyway from net new ones. But we’re not in normal circumstances; small businesses, which are responsible for most new jobs, still aren’t hiring. They need a boost.
(4) Dramatically expand the Small Business Administration’s lending programs and have the Fed buy up the SBA’s debt. Big banks are not lending to small businesses. TARP has been an utter failure in this regard. The SBA and the Fed should circumvent them and help small businesses get the capital they need, so they can start hiring again.
The politics of these four steps aren’t difficult. It would be hard to get a new stimulus package through Congress, but no member who’s up for reelection next year when unemployment is likely to be in double digits wants to be accused by rivals of voting against steps to help small businesses, public schools, childrens’ health, and average working people who need a tax cut.”
I know Mr. Reich still has many friends in Washington so maybe he will get the ear of someone who can bring these thoughts to the discussion.
We sure haven’t heard of any medical insurance companies having financial troubles, have we????
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Robert Reich is a delight to listen to and read.
I agree.. pump more cash into the economy, since the public isn’t..
This recession is making everyone weary — almost two full years of worry will do that!
That doesn’t count the worrying most of us did long months before the recession was made ‘official.’
14-year-old shot, killed in Augusta
Police are investigating the death of a 14-year-old girl who was shot in the head Friday night at a home in Augusta.
God bless the 2nd….
Okie — I KNEW you couldnt name any of those “political debts” paid by stimulus funds, let alone post links… LOL
Nice try at your usual end-around….
Didnt work….
Wanna try again??
“However you put words in his mouth to satisfy your own viewpoint because that isn’t what he said but I won’t split hairs.” [okie]
What words did I put in his mouth?? NAME THE WORDS… SHOW that he didnt say there would be hard times, until the economy turned around… Can you do that???
You still cant name ONE political debt that was paid back from stimulus funds… you know…. the funds that havent even been half used yet???
Hahahaha.. amazing that Mr Obama could do all of this in just nine months:
Unemployment- worse.
Deficit- worse.
Debt- worse.
Iraq- still there.
Afghanistan- worse.
North Korea- now has the bomb.
Iran- working ont he bomb.
Corporate Bailouts & Takeovers- worse.
HAHAHAHA.. dipsheet
“WHY do you have such a gawd awful time with reading and hearing comprehension… Obama said unemployment would stay around 8% by the end of THE YEAR…”
Chas, nice spin. That is not what Obama said.
Here is the White Paper he put out.
http://otrans.3cdn.net/45593e8ecbd339d074_l3m6bt1te.pdf
“We had a good business plan. ”
“Let’s use prison labor to clean offices. The workers will work cheap and if they get lippy we can have them tossed back in the pokey! Better yet, we’ll keep them leashed to us at all times with a cell phone!”
Yes, bless your little tiny hearts.
“I will be charitable and give him until the end of the year. ”
WOW how very large of you! Your party spends 25 years destroying the economy from top to bottom and you’re gonna give President Obama whole 11 months to fix it! I don’t know about the President. But I am sure glad he aint on your sh– list yet.
I wonder if there is a strongly worded letter in the President’s future.
Linda and David I agree with Reich on 3 of those points. PR tax forgiveness on the first 20 thousand for everyone and then lift the ceiling for high wage earners. This would give an equal tax for all and on the back end pump some needed cash into SS which would be hurt by the PR tax forgiveness.
He is right on about TARP not helping small businesses. They are begging for capital to stay afloat and hang onto their employees but can’t get any help. They are indeed the major job creators in the US.
The jobs tax credit is a good incentive short term to expand staff. Not sure of its help long term. Anything that helps right now would be beneficial.
BJ just for your records. We do not now nor have we ever owned a cleaning service of any kind. Don’t know where you get your wild ideas.
As for your prison labor remark – well I think even the left knows how lame that makes you look.
ISLAMABAD — Gunmen dressed in military fatigues stormed the heart of Pakistan’s army operations, killing six people and taking 10 to 15 hostages, some of them soldiers.
This is the Baghdad “Pentagon!”
Okee.. are my shirts ready for pick up?
Wiki: “The Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) is a program of the United States government to purchase assets and equity from financial institutions to strengthen its financial sector. It is the largest component of the government’s measures in 2008 to address the subprime mortgage crisis.”
Near as I can tell TARP was a gift to the haves and have mores, fulfilling one of bush the lesser’s promises to those who bought him the presidency.
I try hard to stay away from even the memories of that guy, bush the lesser. I absolutely abhor what he did to America and am prone to exaggerate when I think of him. I don’t try to cover up to anyone what my abysmal opinion of him and his administration is. Best for me to stay away from that subject! He is gone and the cleanup has begun.
Hud, Okie — FYI, Obama has said numerous times that the economy would get worse before it got better… IIRC, he even said that in his Inauguration Address… He sure said it in his address to Congress just recently… I have also heard him state that very thing in several Saturday radio addresses…
SO, prove he didnt say it, or else get off my back!!!
Okie, I am still waiting for you to post some link showing where any stimulus funds were used to pay political debts… Hey, YOU make the claim… now show the links…
“SO, prove he didnt say it, or else get off my back!!!”
Already did. If you looked at my link you would have seen a chart of the expected unemployment rate.
Of course, you have to look.
This is on page 2: “It should be understood that all of the estimates presented in this memo are subject to significant margins of error. There is the obvious uncertainty that comes from modeling a hypothetical package rather than the final legislation passed by the Congress. But, there is the more fundamental uncertainty that comes with any estimate of the effects of a program.”
Hey.. it’s bad… bite it
Hud — According to YOUR link, that document was NOT written by Obama… His name doesnt appear in the document… ONE of the authors is from the office of the VP Elect… The entire document is BEFORE Obama’s Inauguration…
You talk about MY spin?? So, actually you got NOTHIN…. I stand by what I posted before… Your link does nothing to refute it.
“I stand by what I posted before…”
Link please.
“Of course, you have to look.” [Hud]
Yep… sure do… And if you would have looked instead of posting a stupid, irrelevant link… You wouldnt be proven wrong now…
So, once again, PROVE that Obama did NOT say there would be hard times before the stimulus funds would show their worth…
Can you DO that??
Hud, you challenged my statement.. YOU prove me wrong… I proved your link wrong… The ball is now back in your court.
Hud does not apparently listen to the President.. so.. what could he possibly know…
Hud — Since you like the “whitepaper” dated Jan. 8, 2009, LOOK at these words — spoken by Obama in a SPEECH from that same date, and then tell me he never said what I posted earlier >>>>
“It will not come easy or happen overnight, and it is altogether likely that things may get worse before they get better. But that is all the more reason for Congress to act without delay.” [BHO]
http://thepage.time.com/full-remarks-of-obamas-stimulus-speech/
No apology expected or required….
“It will not come easy or happen overnight, and it is altogether likely that things may get worse before they get better. But that is all the more reason for Congress to act without delay.”
Don’t disagree with this statement.
Where is the 8% statement? You have never posted a link.
Hud, are you a dense person, or do you just play one on this Blog??
“Most economists expect the unemployment rate to exceed 10 percent before it begins to drop some time next year. While Friday’s news was disappointing, experts said things are improving.
“We’re still losing jobs, but we’re losing jobs at a slower pace. So the economy is getting less worse, I think, if you measure it strictly by employment,” said economist Hugh Johnson, president of Johnson Illington Advisors LLC in Albany, N.Y.”
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113426838&ft=1&f=1003
Hud, that’s all I am looking up for tonight… Remind me early in the week, and I will find the Obama quote on unemployment… I have more important things to do tonight…
What happened to global warming?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm
“For the last 11 years we have not observed any increase in global temperatures.
And our climate models did not forecast it, even though man-made carbon dioxide, the gas thought to be responsible for warming our planet, has continued to rise. ”
Wow, I needed to fire up the stove for the first time this year tonight already….earlier than usual. I didn’t mind though because my average gas bill this last time dropped by almost 40%….yeah!
Oh, and I didn’t mind either because I know this cooling just jerks cosmos around, what with her/his global warming hysteria…ha ha ha!
Chas,
That report Hud posted was released by Obama financial advisers before his inauguration and did estimate unemployment wouldn’t go above 8% if the stimulus package was passed. It went higher, things were worse than known at that time. It took getting into office and some study to realize how bad things really were.
Thanks Linda… I hope all is well for you and yours!! With any luck, I will be home for New Year’s!!
Obama’s Administration used scare tactics telling congress and the American people that if Congress failed to pass the Recovery Act immediately as an emergency – unemployment would go above 9%.
This was in the spring of 2009, by the presidential team:
http://ronhebron.com/blog/uploaded_images/august2009unempdata-763877.jpg
The actual document President Obama cited during his February push on the emergency passage (when he took Michelle to Chicago for a quick screw on Valentines weekend):
http://otrans.3cdn.net/ee40602f9a7d8172b8_ozm6bt5oi.pdf
Back in early January, when Barack Obama was still President-elect, two of his chief economic advisers — leading proponents of a stimulus bill — predicted that the passage of a large economic-aid package would boost the economy and keep the unemployment rate below 8%. It hasn’t quite worked out that way. Last month, the jobless rate in the U.S. hit 9.5%, the highest level it has reached since 1983. The two advisers who wrote the paper, Christina Romer and Jared Bernstein, went on to land key jobs in the Obama Administration. Romer is the head of Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers, and Bernstein is the chief economist and economic-policy adviser to Vice President Joe Biden. And the stimulus bill that both economists championed became law in mid-February. What has not come to pass, however, is the boom in job creation that Romer and Bernstein predicted. A little over a month ago, the Administration said the stimulus bill had created or saved 150,000 jobs. That’s a far cry from the 3 million to 4 million jobs that Romer and Bernstein foresaw back in January.
the report says that even by the middle of this year, the stimulus bill would have a positive effect on the unemployment rate. Without the stimulus, the two economists predicted, the unemployment rate would rise to around 8.5% by the middle of this year; add the stimulus, and that rate would drop by half a point. In reality, the unemployment rate is a full percentage point higher than what Romer and Bernstein predicted it would be without a stimulus.
Time.com
Bush Debt versus Obama Debt:
http://andtotherepublic.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/bushobamadeficit1.jpg
At a prime-time news conference marking six months in office, Obama said health care legislation was key to a strong economic recovery, and he added, “If we do not control these costs, we will not be able to control our deficit.”
Says the man who has sent the deficit to way past anywhere Neil Armstrong or Buzz Aldrin ever set foot. Remind yourself of this picture illustrating the deficits under Bush v. the deficits under Obama:
Day 25 – Friday, February 13:
2:24 PM: With not a single Member voting for the bill having claimed to have actually read it, the House passes the conference report for H.R.1, the “American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009”.
5:29 PM: With not a single Member voting for the bill having claimed to have actually read it, the Senate passes the conference report for H.R. 1.
Day 29 – February 17: Obama signs the “Stimulus” bill and violates his transparency pledge to the American people that he will allow legislation to be posted online for five full days before signing it.
“No more secrecy. … when there’s a bill that ends up on my desk as president, you, the American voter, will have five days to look online and find out what it is before I sign it, so that you know what your government’s doing.”
Dick wad.. Mexico City is suffering the worst drought in 60 years and water trucks are being highjacked.
But you turned on your heat… awwwwww
“not a single Member voting for the bill having claimed to have actually read it”
Not a single member reported being bitten by a vampire, either, dumpster.
The Obama staff walked into a White House still using MS Office 2003. Those friggin’ Bush Luddites!
It took awhile to bring the IT infrastructure up to date. The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 could not wait.
And, dick wad, even the lousy Baucus Bill will lower the deficit, according to the CBO.
DavidB
Posted October 10, 2009 at 5:25 pm | Permalink
ISLAMABAD — Gunmen dressed in military fatigues stormed the heart of Pakistan’s army operations, killing six people and taking 10 to 15 hostages, some of them soldiers.
This is the Baghdad “Pentagon!”
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Did Iraq move their “Pentagon” to Pakistan?
oops
Bush turned a budget surplus into a deficit 4X larger than the surplus.
He cut taxes while starting a war, and NOBODY in the history of the world has been THAT stupid…
Nobody.. ever. Never.
No biggie.
Yeah, Pakistan does seem to be more unstable by the day.
The point is.. they will determine to pincer the Taliban between their forces and the US in Afghanistan.
The difference between Bush’s Debt. And Obama’s debt.
1. Bush accumulated a debt, by starting two wars. Essentially, Bush has bled billions out of our country.
2. Part of Obama’s debt, is to bring us out of the mess, Bush put us in.
3. Obama’s debt, is being used here at home, to help our country. Whereas the debt Bush accumulated, was essentially money bleeding out of our country from fighting wars on two fronts.
Bush was bush outsourcing our wealth.
2nd bush=busy
Busy Budget busting bush.
boxlock20 posted October 10, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Oh, and I didn’t mind either because I know this cooling just jerks cosmos around, what with her/his global warming hysteria…ha ha ha!
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Actually, I’m amazed that boxlock20 (george, and donndublin) are dumb enough to think that the “plateau” in temperatures since the record warm 1998 El Nino = “cooling”.
“Actually, I’m amazed that boxlock20 (george, and donndublin) are dumb enough to think ….”—cosmos
Ha ha! Actually I think you cosmos are going to be amazed at what all you failed to account for and misjudged in your hysterical hypothesis of the future of this world’s climate.
Pretty presumptuous of you if you ask me.
boxlock20 posted October 11, 2009 at 10:10 pm
“Actually, I’m amazed that boxlock20 (george, and donndublin) are dumb enough to think ….”—cosmos
Ha ha! Actually I think you cosmos are going to be amazed at what all you failed to account for and misjudged in your hysterical hypothesis of the future of this world’s climate.
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boxlock20,
Did you try to research all of the factors that AGW science does include, and suffer a massive brain f@rt?
Or did you instead just lazily believe falsehoods from AGW science deniers, who said what you wanted to hear?