Some higher education officials in Kansas already are using the term “state-assisted” rather then “state-funded.” Now, to deal with a state funding squeeze, officials at Colorado State University are debating whether to take the school partially private and go to a tuition system in which students would pay more for degrees that cost more to deliver. Virginia, Pennsylvania and New York also have versions of a public-private model for higher education. But it’s controversial. “Once you start charging more for some degrees, you’re going to price people out of the market,” Chapman Rackaway, associate professor of political science at Fort Hays State University, wrote in the Hays Daily News. “State governments across the country already are doing their best to prevent access to higher education for all but their wealthiest citizens. If we start making it harder to get necessary degrees like medicine and engineering, we’ll find ourselves with a shortage of people in those fields quickly.”
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Whether “state assisted” or “state funded” is just semantics by higher education people trying to get a larger share of non-existent state funding. No matter how they spin it, large pools of state funds are just not there anymore. Ditto for all state funded agencies.
Colorado schools suffer due to TABOR. This is their own making and it has nothing to do with Kansas or how we should run our system.
Politicians need to quit putting education on the back burner. Republican leadership want education to be for the wealthy only; their policies are clear. Cut funding to public education and send tax dollars to private school (vouchers). That didn’t work, so now the public universities are being attacked.
There will be a severe shortage of professors in the next 10 to 20 years. Now less people will go on to get their PhD which means not as many people qualified to teach at the university level. Also, I have noticed at my university that classic studies such as history, sociology, anthropology, philosophy, poly sci, etc. are getting kicked around with budget cuts more than other departments.
I think if anyone has dreams of sending their kids to college should pay close attention to these issues.
It wasn’t enough that NCLB set the goal at bringing every student K – 12 to mediocrity, so moving right along let’s get college education dumbed down too!?
Class separation does seem to be a goal of some. The right of the wealthy to distinguish itself from the middle class.
Education is only one leg of the milking stool, and unless the other two are present the whole exercise is useless. Noted from the OECD rankings a few months ago: Places that are always in the top tier in education are Finland, Canada, Holland, Australia, Japan and New Zealand. Standard of living lists Norway, Canada, Sweden, Holland, Switzerland and Australia. Best healthcare results were shown as Japan, Sweden, Canada, Norway and Australia. I don’t accept the WHO or any other UN sponsored group for rankings for I think politics come into play and agendae are inclusive, whereas the OECD is an American based impartial organization. They also listed the Nordic countries the Australians and the Canadians with the most sound fiscal and banking systems, which makes me think it all hangs together. We all know at one time America used to be atop ALL those rankings, what happened?
The repubs would just import more foreigners with degrees to make up for any shortfall.
Social Conservative Christian Republicans are pushing their Theocracy mantra and that means we will return to the days of old England where the politically correct preachers (no women allowed) will be ruling and the rest of Americans will simply be peasants.
Controlling the public education system is a big part of turning our country into a theocracy. The plan won’t work if the peasants are educated and will rise up and fight back.
Who needs the Muslim terrorists to bring down America when we have these so-called Christian Conservatives?
We all know at one time America used to be atop ALL those rankings, what happened?
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Rampant and encouraged greed, arrogance and ignorance would be my guess.
I’ve heard the higher cost of education all of my life.
I’ve concluded that it is relative to the amount of toys parents are unable or able to buy instead of investing in their child’s education.
“Working your way through college” used to be a standard phrase – whatever happened to that?
All of those countries have highly socialized government systems. The right has worked very hard at vilifying socialized systems as the “gateway to communism” for the last 50 years.
American’s are now turning into a bunch of cowering uneducated rednecks with guns to protect us from those educated socialist “furener’s”. You can’t tell them we aren’t the best country in the world…Faux news says we are!
Regular: Those jobs the kids got were filling-in positions at places who had summer vacation originated staffings to handle. My kid swept floors in a plant all summer, that plant is gone now…. those places and jobs just aren’t around anymore. I wonder if the fact we pay a Phd.in Ecomomics $80,000.000 to teach and the football coach gets $250,000.00 means anything?
totoinks: I should have noted in my first post that those who where in second place behind the US were a distance second place. The rankings/outcomes were not even close…..and I’m old enough to remember that.
ooops that should be $80,000.00, mea culpa
totoinks
Posted October 26, 2009 at 9:31 am | Permalink
We all know at one time America used to be atop ALL those rankings, what happened?
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Rampant and encouraged greed, arrogance and ignorance would be my guess.
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IMHO what happened was and is parents abdicating their reposibilities as parents to the schools. Some parents today feel that education belongs in the schools and not the home.They are comfortasble with feeding and clothing their children and let the state do the rest. I firmly believe that parental involvemment in education is vital.
janabanana: All those places are monarchies with a parliamentry system of government complete with stock exhanges and more importantly, a free market that is regulated rather than dominated by the ubercapitalists. Too much control and wealth in the hand of 1% of the population has made us a feudal state not seen since the the 18th century….and we had the guts to do something about that. Remember Ike and his warning about the military/industrial complex? The guy was statesman, soldier and a seer.
Catch 22. By time you work your way through the 50k at minimum wage you’ll be ready to retire. And the only way to get a decent paying job (’less’n ya got a reach-around buddy) is with a college education.
Does anyone stop to think that the same jobs requiring the college education that is being priced out of the comman person’s reach are the same jobs the affluent are too elite to get their hands dirty on?
BTW freebird, while I agree with you in essence, I can’t help but wonder about the difference when a household could be run by the common person making one single income, and not both spouses each working at least one job and maybe more. Wages have been flat since the Reagan years. Americans are working more hours and seeing less benefit than they did in the 70’s.
It’s hard to put in 60, 70, 80 hours a week and still help your kids with their homework. Maybe if you start having kids at a young enough age you can get by with that enough to watch them graduate before dying of a heart attack.
“If we start making it harder to get necessary degrees like medicine and engineering, we’ll find ourselves with a shortage of people in those fields quickly.”
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Since it takes more credit hours to get these degrees, they already cost more than other degrees.
This is what happens when you have a “public plan” education system!!!!!!!!