Distracted pilots were the problem

northwestlogoThe Air Line Pilots Association has judged the Federal Aviation Administration to have acted prematurely in revoking the licenses of the Northwest Airlines pilots who flew 150 miles past their Twin Cities destination last week because they were riveted by their personal laptops. Union officials want the FAA to “recommit to protect the integrity” of voluntary safety reporting programs, under which pilots are supposed to be able to disclose mistakes without fear of punishment. That process has its place. But these weren’t two store clerks lost in harmless conversation. They zoned out for 91 minutes at 37,000 feet with more than 140 passengers aboard. To many fliers, the FAA’s swift action seemed appropriate.

12 Comments

  1. Regular
    Posted October 30, 2009 at 6:09 am | Permalink

    Fire them and suspend their license for XXX amount of days, forced re-certification.

    No excuses.

  2. XXX
    Posted October 30, 2009 at 6:32 am | Permalink

    How do you overfly a runway by 150 miles? How do you not answer ATC for an hour and a half? Say what they want, but I’m betting they fell asleep.

  3. JWink
    Posted October 30, 2009 at 6:45 am | Permalink

    Agreed Reg and XXX: Perhaps a greeter position at a box store?

  4. Politico
    Posted October 30, 2009 at 9:08 am | Permalink

    This shows how far out of reality unions have gone. 91 minutes is a long time to be distracted with a computer and not hear the towers communication. You just do not ignore the responsibility of 144 lives in your charge.

    If the passengers had been hurt or even worse the plane had crashed and all the people lost would the unions still believe it was just a mistake?

  5. ANTI
    Posted October 30, 2009 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    NWA?

    I wasn’t aware that Ice Cube, Easy-E(dead), and Dr. Dre were in the airline business.

  6. Mr_Kia
    Posted October 30, 2009 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    ANTI
    Posted October 30, 2009 at 10:02 am | Permalink
    NWA?
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    F da FAA.

  7. ANTI
    Posted October 30, 2009 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    F da FAA.
    =============

    LMFAO!

  8. SolDevVB
    Posted October 30, 2009 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    150 miles in 91 min? That doesn’t add up. I thought the aircraft traveled at ~400 mph. Something is fishy.

    Also, the majority of the flight is computer controlled. Were there no alarms? This thing is waaaaay fishy. What is keeping the cockpit recorder tapes from being released?

  9. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 30, 2009 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    soldevbb posted October 30, 2009 at 10:10 am

    150 miles in 91 min? That doesn’t add up. I thought the aircraft traveled at ~400 mph. Something is fishy.
    ——————-

    As usual, soldevbb is confused, and/or “slow”.

    The location of the plane when the 91 minute distraction began was not given.

  10. Jed
    Posted October 30, 2009 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    Solly,
    “What is keeping the cockpit recorder tapes from being released?”

    From what I heard, the recorder only captures the 30 minutes previous to landing (or crashing). By that time, the pilots already knew they were in trouble and weren’t snoring. The tapes were useless and there was no point in releasing them.

  11. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 30, 2009 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    soldevvb,

    BTW, an airliner does not just open the doors and let the 140 passengers out when it is over the destination, AND at 37,000 feet altitude.

    It takes time, and distance, to descend before landing at the destination.

  12. American_Way
    Posted October 30, 2009 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

    The pilots sure as he11 weren’t distracted by blogging on StevenDavis/Iggy’s blog!

    http://iggydonnelly.wordpress.com/

    Not unless they fell asleep.

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