Former Vice President Dick Cheney is back at it, calling the Obama administration’s abandonment of a missile-defense program in Eastern Europe “a strategic blunder,” criticizing diplomatic outreach efforts to Iran, and disparaging complaints about torture as “a libel against dedicated professionals.” During a speech Wednesday to the Center for Security Policy in Washington, D.C., Cheney also accused President Obama of “dithering” on Afghanistan “while America’s armed forces are in danger.” Cheney said that Obama “seems afraid to make a decision, and unable to provide his commander on the ground with the troops he needs to complete his mission.”
But retired Gen. Paul Eaton, who used to oversee training of the Iraqi military, responded that Cheney and other Bush administration officials were “incompetent war fighters” who left a mess that Obama must clean up. He said they “ignored Afghanistan for seven years with a crude approach to counterinsurgency warfare best illustrated by: 1. Deny it. 2. Ignore it. 3. Bomb it.”
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Newsflash!
Darth (the Penguin) Cheney criticizes the Obama Administration.
The Administration then quietly thanks Darth (the Penguin) Cheney.
Based on their past stellar performances, I really car what the “Shrub & Chub” administration has to say about anything.
Someone should torture Cheney so he’ll shutup
Ah yes, DICK Cheney’s strategic decisions have worked out so well for our nation. I sure hope the Republicans nominate him in 2012!
Diversion 101 by BrownLib –
let’s see
- 9.8 Percent Unemployment
only 3000 shovel ready jobs created with 800 billion dollars of Porkulus money
- Moderate Democrats in a knife fight in Congress and the Senate to call out the far left loons on health care reform
- The award of the Nobel Peace prize to O’BAMA for doing nothing before nothing happened.
- The hiring of 911truthers and NAMBLA supporters as White House Czars by O’BAMA
- The illegal ‘gag order’ on a private company by the NO’BAMA White House
- The closet secrecy of the O’BAMA administration even though it promised to be more open
The list goes on and on, but BrownLib picks up on a minor story that has doodoo to do about squat.
“Regular” channels his inner 3rd Grader –
“…a minor story that has doodoo to do about squat.”
What a bunch of poopy scat.
Somebody once wrote something I think on this blog about how Cheney should be sent back to Wyoming and become one of those crazy old coots you see sitting around downtown. I thought it was funny and fitting then and still do.
Maybe some of out WE cons could go with him; make a quorum.
Dennis
Cheney’s War of Words, well he is a battle hardend Word Warrior.
Cheney also accused President Obama of “dithering” on Afghanistan “while America’s armed forces are in danger.” Cheney said that Obama “seems afraid to make a decision, and unable to provide his commander on the ground with the troops he needs to complete his mission.”
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I think Satan is right on this one.
Obama isn’t dithering. He’s waiting for winter. The hoo hoos have been staying home when it’s cold. He can then declare victory citing events he had nothing to do with, just like the previous administration.
Was dead eye dick asked about the administration he was part of and their flat failure to capture or kill Osama bin Laden?
Anti, explain to us, in three words or less, just who it was who originally put our troops in danger in Afghanistan. Who failed to put enough troops on the ground in the first place? Who diverted resources from the hunt for Bin Laden to the hunt for Saddam? Hmmm?
Three words. Easy answer. Can you do it? I bet you can.
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ANTI
Posted October 22, 2009 at 2:11 pm | Permalink
I think Satan is right on this one.
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I’d have to say that Satan is blatantly hypocritical on this one.
Bush and Cheney lost interest in pursuing Osama bin Laden six months after 9/11 and instead decided to focus on Cheney’s long-planned invasion of Iraq.
Bush and Cheney ‘dithered’ on Afghanistan the last 7 years of their administration all the while troops on the ground in Afghanistan were in danger and their commander on the ground was without the troops needed to complete his mission.
Cheney?
INCOMING!!!!!!!!!
I’d have to say that Satan is blatantly hypocritical on this one.
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He’s still right.
thomaswitt,
That doesn’t excuse Obama’s dithering.
Anti,
Maybe you’re right.
The previous administration had over seven years to get it right in Afghanistan and failed miserably without so much as a ‘peep’ from those on the right.
You’d think they’d give the new president more than 8 months to try and reverse 7 years worth of failure, wouldn’t you?
The previous administration had over seven years to get it right in Afghanistan and failed miserably without so much as a ‘peep’ from those on the right.
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I peeped.
Dear Dick Cheney,
It’s pretty obvious that Obama is nothing more than a campaigner and master of spin, and unable to commit to a comprehensive strategy for victory in Afganistan. We know that he is not a real president capable of making presidential decisions because he is so preoccupied with trying to marginalize his enemies and raising money for his re-election effort in 2012.
Please, go back to Wyoming and spend some time hunting, preferably alone. We do not need you to keep be making these plain as day observations for us.
Bush/cheney held up troop increase for 8 months, then Obama finally fulfilled the increase in March. Has Cheney gont senile, or has he always been, my guess is the latter.
The Obama administration has already approximately doubled the number of US troops deployed to Afghanistan. Under Bush, the Afghan theater had ~35000 or so troops; under Obama, that number has been increased to ~68,000.
There are some big problems right now in our military. Most of our deployable troops have been tied down in Iraq since 2003. The force there is getting drawn down, but it’s not an instantaneous process. Much of the military’s ground equipment is in tatters.
This whole notion of “dithering” is BS. There’s only so much that can be done with the resources we have, especially since the previous Bush/Cheney administration (whom Anti won’t name) pretty much trashed our military readiness.
Daniel,
Thus far Obama has extended the fiddle fartery method of Bush by nine months.
If Obama is so wise, why hasn’t he acted after witnessing 7 years of failure in Afghanistan?
After all Obama consistently brags about how wrong Bush was, it would seem that Obama must know what to do then…
Unfortunately Obama has been impotent.
“1. Deny it. 2. Ignore it. 3. Bomb it.”
Sounds like a summary of the Bush II foreign policy.
thomaswitt,
How do you know more about the readiness of our military then General McChrystal who has asked for more troups?
“The top U.S. and NATO commander in Afghanistan warns in an urgent, confidential assessment of the war that he needs more forces within the next year and bluntly states that without them, the eight-year conflict “will likely result in failure,”
Obama said last week that he will not decide whether to send more troops until he has “absolute clarity about what the strategy is going to be.”"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/20/AR2009092002920.html
Nah…no dithering here.
Furthermore, If the military readiness is indeed “trashed” and this is the reason for Obama’s delay, then the US and NATO commander has not been told about it. He would not have made the request in the first place.
Telegraph.co.uk
Barak Obama and the CIA:
Why does President Pantywaist hate America so badly?
By Gerold Warner
If al-Qaeda, the Taliban and the rest of the Looney Tunes brigade want to kick America to death, they had better move in quickly and grab a piece of the action before Barack Obama finishes the job himself. Never in the history of the United States has a president worked so actively against the interests of his own people – not even Jimmy Carter.
Obama’s problem is that he does not know who the enemy is. To him, the enemy does not squat in caves in Waziristan, clutching automatic weapons and reciting the more militant verses from the Koran: instead, it sits around at tea parties in Kentucky quoting from the US Constitution. Obama is not at war with terrorists, but with his Republican fellow citizens. He has never abandoned the campaign trail.
That is why he opened Pandora’s Box by publishing the Justice Department’s legal opinions on waterboarding and other hardline interrogation techniques. He cynically subordinated the national interest to his partisan desire to embarrass the Republicans. Then he had to rush to Langley, Virginia to try to reassure a demoralized CIA that had just discovered the President of the United States was an even more formidable foe than al-Qaeda.
“Don’t be discouraged by what’s happened the last few weeks,” he told intelligence officers. Is he kidding? Thanks to him, al-Qaeda knows the private interrogation techniques available to the US intelligence agencies and can train its operatives to withstand them – or would do so, if they had not already been outlawed.
So, next time a senior al-Qaeda hood is captured, all the CIA can do is ask him nicely if he would care to reveal when a major population centre is due to be hit by a terror spectacular, or which American city is about to be irradiated by a dirty bomb. Your view of this situation will be dictated by one simple criterion: whether or not you watched the people jumping from the twin towers.
President Pantywaist’s recent world tour, cozying up to all the bad guys, excited the ambitions of America’s enemies. Here, they realized, is a sucker they can really take to the cleaners.
His only enemies are fellow Americans.
Which prompts the question: Why does President Pantywaist hate America so badly?
Barak Obama and the CIA:
Why does President Pantywaist hate America so badly?
By Gerald Warner
Telegraph.co.uk
If al-Qaeda, the Taliban and the rest of the Looney Tunes brigade want to kick America to death, they had better move in quickly and grab a piece of the action before Barack Obama finishes the job himself. Never in the history of the United States has a president worked so actively against the interests of his own people – not even Jimmy Carter.
Obama’s problem is that he does not know who the enemy is. To him, the enemy does not squat in caves in Waziristan, clutching automatic weapons and reciting the more militant verses from the Koran: instead, it sits around at tea parties in Kentucky quoting from the US Constitution. Obama is not at war with terrorists, but with his Republican fellow citizens. He has never abandoned the campaign trail.
That is why he opened Pandora’s Box by publishing the Justice Department’s legal opinions on waterboarding and other hardline interrogation techniques. He cynically subordinated the national interest to his partisan desire to embarrass the Republicans. Then he had to rush to Langley, Virginia to try to reassure a demoralized CIA that had just discovered the President of the United States was an even more formidable foe than al-Qaeda.
“Don’t be discouraged by what’s happened the last few weeks,” he told intelligence officers. Is he kidding? Thanks to him, al-Qaeda knows the private interrogation techniques available to the US intelligence agencies and can train its operatives to withstand them – or would do so, if they had not already been outlawed.
So, next time a senior al-Qaeda hood is captured, all the CIA can do is ask him nicely if he would care to reveal when a major population centre is due to be hit by a terror spectacular, or which American city is about to be irradiated by a dirty bomb. Your view of this situation will be dictated by one simple criterion: whether or not you watched the people jumping from the twin towers.
President Pantywaist’s recent world tour, cozying up to all the bad guys, excited the ambitions of America’s enemies. Here, they realized, is a sucker they can really take to the cleaners.
His only enemies are fellow Americans.
Which prompts the question: Why does President Pantywaist hate America so badly?
Barak Obama and the CIA:
Why does President Pantywaist hate America so badly?
By Gerald Warner
Telegraph.co.uk
If al-Qaeda, the Taliban and the rest of the Loo ney Tunes brigade want to kick America to death, they had better move in quickly and grab a piece of the action before Barack Obama finishes the job himself. Never in the history of the United States has a president worked so actively against the interests of his own people – not even Jimmy Carter.
Obama’s problem is that he does not know who the enemy is. To him, the enemy does not squat in caves in Waziristan, clutching automatic weapons and reciting the more militant verses from the Koran: instead, it sits around at tea parties in Kentucky quoting from the US Constitution. Obama is not at war with terrorists, but with his Republican fellow citizens. He has never abandoned the campaign trail.
That is why he opened Pandora’s Box by publishing the Justice Department’s legal opinions on waterboarding and other hard-line interrogation techniques. He cynically subordinated the national interest to his partisan desire to embarrass the Republicans. Then he had to rush to Langley, Virginia to try to reassure a demoralized CIA that had just discovered the President of the United States was an even more formidable foe than al-Qaeda.
“Don’t be discouraged by what’s happened the last few weeks,” he told intelligence officers. Is he kidding? Thanks to him, al-Qaeda knows the private interrogation techniques available to the US intelligence agencies and can train its operatives to withstand them – or would do so, if they had not already been outlawed.
So, next time a senior al-Qaeda hood is captured, all the CIA can do is ask him nicely if he would care to reveal when a major population center is due to be hit by a terror spectacular, or which American city is about to be irradiated by a dirty bomb. Your view of this situation will be dictated by one simple criterion: whether or not you watched the people jumping from the twin towers.
President Pantywaist’s recent world tour, cozying up to all the bad guys, excited the ambitions of America’s enemies. Here, they realized, is a sucker they can really take to the cleaners.
His only enemies are fellow Americans.
Which prompts the question: Why does President Pantywaist hate America so badly?
Sorry about the triple post.
It would not post and would go back to the top of the page and not posting anything new and then posts all three at once.
OBAMA’S “CZARS
CZAR
Czar Position
Summary
Richard Holbrooke
Afghanistan Czar
Ultra liberal anti gun former Gov. of New Mexico. Pro Abortion and legal drug use.
Ed Montgomery
Auto recovery Czar
Black radical anti business activist. Affirmative Action and Job Preference for blacks. Univ of Maryland Business School Dean teaches US business has caused world poverty. ACORN board member. Communist DuBois Club member.
Jeffrey Crowley
AIDS Czar
Homosexual. A Gay Rights activist. Believes in Gay Marriage and Special Status, including free health care for gays.
Alan Bersin
Border Czar
former failed superintendent of San Diego . Ultra Liberal friend of Hilary Clinton. Served as Border Czar under Janet Reno – to keep borders open to illegal’s
David J. Hayes
California Water Czar
Sr. Fellow of radical environmentalist group, “Progress Policy”. No training or experience in water management.
Ron Bloom
Car Czar
Auto Union worker. Anti business & anti nuclear. Has worked hard to force US auto makers out of business. Sits on the Board of Chrysler which is now Auto Union owned. How did this happen?
Dennis Ross
Central Region Czar
Believes US policy has caused Mid East wars. Obama apologist to the world. Anti gun and pro abortion.
Lynn Rosenthal
Domestic Violence Czar
Director of the National Network to End Domestic Violence. Vicious anti male feminist. Supported male castration.
Gil Kerlikowske
Drug Czar
devoted lobbyist for every restrictive gun law proposal, Former Chief of Police in Liberal Seattle. Believes no American should own a firearm. Supports legalization of drugs
Carol Brower
Energy and Environment Czar
Political Radical Former head of EPA – known for anti-business activism. Strong anti-gun ownership. SOCIALIST on Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for “global governance” and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address climate change.
Joshua DuBois
Faith Based Czar
Political Black activist-Degree in Black Nationalism—seek a separate black nation.. Anti gun ownership lobbyist.
Cameron Davis
Great Lakes Czar
Chicago radical anti business environmentalist. Blames George Bush for “Poisoning the water that minorities have to drink.” No experience or training in w ater management. Former ACORN Board member
Van Jones
Green Jobs Czar
(since resigned). Black activist Member of American communist Party and San Francisco Communist Party who said Geo Bush caused the 911 attack and wanted Bush investigated by the World Court for war crimes. MARXIST, said whites are poisoning blacks, said transformation from “suicidal gray capitalism to econ-capitalism to the complete redistribution of wealth.” Black activist with strong anti-white views.
Daniel Fried
Guantanamo Closure Czar
Rights activist for Foreign Terrorists. Believes America has caused the war on terrorism.
Nancy-Ann DeParle.
Health Czar
Former head of Medicare / Medicaid. Strong Health Care Rationing proponent. She is married to a reporter for The New York Times.
Vivek Kundra
Information Czar
born in New Delhi, India. Controls all public information, including labels and news releases. Monitors all private Internet emails.
Todd Stern
International Climate Czar
Anti business former White House chief of Staff- Strong supportrer of the Kyoto Accord. Pushing hard for Cap and Trade. Blames US business for Global warming.
Dennis Blair
Intelligence Czar
Ret Navy. Stopped US guided missile program as “provocative”. Chair of ultra liberal “Council on Foreign Relations” which blames American organizations for regional wars.
George Mitchell
Mideast Peace Czar
Fmr. Sen from Maine Left wing radical. Has said Israel should be split up into “2 or 3 “ smaller more manageable plots”. Anti-nuclear anti-gun & pro homosexual
Kenneth Feinberg
Pay Czar
Chief of Staff to TED KENNEDY. Lawyer who got rich off the 911 victims payoffs.
Cass Sunstein
Regulatory Czar
Liberal activist judge believes free speech needs to be limited for the “common good”. Rules against personal freedoms many times –like private gun ownership. Says animals should be able to sue people. Anti-hunting..
John Holdren
Science Czar
Fierce ideological environmentalist, Sierra Club, Anti business activist. Claims US business has caused world poverty. No Science training. OK to abort a child until the age of two. Thinks TREES should be able to sue humans.
Earl Devaney
Stimulus Accountability Czar
spent career trying to take guns away from American citizens. Believes in Open Borders to Mexico . Author of statement blaming US gun stores for drug war in Mexico .
J. Scott Gration
Sudan Czar
Native of Democratic Republic of Congo. Believes US does little to help Third World countries. Council of foreign relations, asking for higher US taxes to support United Nations
Herb Allison
TARP Czar
Fannie May CEO responsible for the US recession by using real estate mortgages to back up the US stock market. Caused millions of people to lose their life savings.
John Brennan
Terrorism Czar
Anti CIA activist. No training in diplomatic or gov. affairs. Believes Open Borders to Mexico and a dialog with terrorists and has suggested Obama disband US military
Aneesh Chopra
Technology Czar
No Technology training. Worked for the Advisory Board Company, a health care think tank for hospitals. Anti doctor activist. Supports Obama Health care Rationing and salaried doctors working exclusively for the Gov. health care plan
Adolfo Carrion Jr.
Urban Affairs Czar
Puerto Rican. Anti American activist and leftist group member in Latin America . Millionaire “slum lord” of the Bronx , NY. Owns many lavish homes and condos which he got from “sweetheart” deals with labor unions. Wants higher taxes to pay for minority housing and health care
Ashton Carter
Weapons Czar
Leftist. Wants all private weapons in US destroyed. Supports UN ban on firearms ownership in America .. No Other “policy”
Gary Samore
WMD Policy Czar
Former US Communist. Wants US to destroy all WMD unilaterally as a show of good faith. Has no other “policy”.
AND. . .. . .
Kevin Jennings . . . . . . . Obama’s SAFE SCHOOL CZAR
As a teacher when a 15 year old said he was having sex with an older man, instead of turning in the man—
the law for a teacher, he asked how it was going and suggested they use condoms.
Held a conference with the MAXIMUM age of 18 to teach homosexual issues like “fisting.”
Wrote the intro to the book, “Queering Elementary Education.” Has repeatedly praised and claims to be
inspired by Harry Hay, early supporter of NAMBLA, (North American Man Boy Love Association).
“ARE OUR SCHOOLS IN SAFE HANDS”????
I see Boxie got his repub talking points from Rush today.
How do they do that Boxie, email, snail mail, do they call you and and make you write them down, do they send a CD? Curious minds want to know.
The DNC talking points come by osmosis. We’re just that clever…which is why we won the elections. We’re mind-readers.
Dennis
The DNC talking points come by osmosis. We’re just that clever…
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It’s not because you are clever, it’s because you are all drones.
O’Drones.
mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Dennis, fellow O’Drone
Watch your ass Dennis, I have an EMP devise and I am not afraid to use it!
From Wiki:
“Aneesh Chopra is the first Federal Chief Technology Officer of the United States (CTO). He previously served as Virginia’s fourth Secretary of Technology. Prior to his government service, Chopra was Managing Director for the Advisory Board Company, a health care think tank for hospitals and heath systems. While there, he led the firm’s Financial Leadership Council and the Working Council for Health Plan Executives.
On announcing Chopra’s nomination, President Obama outlined his aims for the CTO. “As Chief Technology Officer, Chopra’s job will be to promote technological innovation to help the country meet its goals such as job creation, reducing health care costs, and protecting the homeland. Together with Chief Information Officer Vivek Kundra, their jobs are to make the government more effective, efficient, and transparent.” Chopra’s appointment was confirmed by the Senate on August 7, 2009.”
Czars, according to Con/Republicans are APPOINTED not confirmed by the Senate.
“Chopra’s appointment was confirmed by the Senate on August 7, 2009.”
Shall we go on?
From Wiki……..
“Herbert M. Allison, Jr. (born 1943) is currently serving as Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Financial Stability of the United States. He was confirmed by the Senate on June 19, 2009.”
Confirmed by the Senate on June 19, 2009.
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ANTI
Posted October 22, 2009 at 2:51 pm | Permalink
I peeped.
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You know, it’s the damndest thing….I’ve skimmed back through the WE Blog archives and I can’t find any posts where you, JimJohnson, or American_Way criticize Bush’s handling of Afghanistan or much of Bush’s handling of anything for that matter.
Go figure.
I certainly have no idea what my posts have to do with Rush….I haven’t even had time to listen most the week and was in Atlanta all last week.
What I do know is you, Dennis, like all DimLibs seem to be paranoid about anything to do with Rush and think there is a ‘Rushie’ hiding behind every Bush (get it) that’s out to get you.
And I also know that when you take the time to come at me personally I have done something right and irritated you. I like that!
“ANTI” admits –
“I peeped.”
Clean-up on aisle 3!
Now get someone to change your diaper.
“Allison, the son of an FBI agent, earned a B.A. in philosophy from Yale University. Following four years as an officer in the U.S. Navy, including one year in Vietnam, he received an M.B.A. from Stanford University”
Daniel,
I didn’t realise the almighty WE Blog was the peep collection center of the universe.
Sorry that I haven’t given it its due credit.
Clean-up on aisle 3!
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…and on aisles 4-9.
Get busy Monkeyhawk, I know you are familiar with a mop.
Of course, this “list” that Box produced of Obama’s Czars is total fiction – just more of the right-wing’s “anything but Obama” smear campaign.
Like Ali said to Foreman “is that all you got?”
George ended up on his back, counted out.
The issue is no longer Afghanistan.
The issue is the existent Muslim nuclear bomb: in Pakistan.
Although Reagan and Bush-the-Elected gave Pakistan nukes do counter India’s Russian-supplied nukes in the 80s, there’s no question bordering Iran and nearby Saudi Arabia are seriously concerned about radical Islamists getting a hold of Pakistan’s nukes. So should we all.
Shrub’s “dithering” sent brave and competent American military fighters to Afghanistan and they generally succeeded in ousting al Qaeda out of Afghanistan into Pakistan. Then Shrub invaded Iraq as a lark.
(Yeah. WE Blog CONs will respond with “Bush! Bush! Bush!” My reply will be, “Reality. Reality. Reality.” So don’t bother.)
Shrub was a crazy car-chasing dog.
Obama is faced with the question, “What would the dog do if he caught one?”
We’re going through of the process of what constitutes “victory” in Afghanistan? And what would that “victory” gain? To what end?
Cheney–a rabid dog, convulsing, still foaming at the mouth, blood lust unquenched.
The world will be a better place for his passing.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/21/cheney-strikes-afghan-critici
sm-obama-administration/
Cheney says Obama should listen to his military commander.
“They made a decision — a good one, I think — and sent a commander
into the field to implement it,” Cheney said, referring to McChrystal,
who was chosen in May by Obama to lead the fight in Afghanistan.
“Now they seem to be pulling back and blaming others for their failure
to implement the strategy they embraced,” he said. “It’s time for
President Obama to do what it takes to win a war he has repeatedly and
rightly called a war of necessity.”
War is a means to a political end. Nothing more. Until there is a clear view of what political outcome we are looking for in Afgan, then nothing is going to change. GW, or OB it doesn’t matter. There both hipocrits, liers.
Politically, Obama, like the base of his party, does not have the intestinal fortitude to wage war.
War is that ugly dirty thing. The brutal face-to-face confrontation kill-or-be-killed of man’s animal instincts. There is none of the touchy-feely bleeding heart compromising liberals love. There is
no time for talking.
So your logical answer is correct. But on a broader front, I don’t believe Obama should even pretend
to have a warrior spirit where none presently exists.
Obama will only get more men killed until finally, they find the right excuse, the right political words,
to allow them to cut and run – which eventually we will do in defeat. I don’t want it to get to that.
Either you go balls to the wall now – or get out of dodge.
The Taliban are laughing at us.
CF2K advocates the death of any opposition.
If a “con” posted the same about Obama, it would be a racial slur, or an act of revolution.
“The issue is the existent Muslim nuclear bomb: in Pakistan”
The issue can be whatever the political party in charge – wants it to be. Period.
Bush used WMD. Obama uses Paki Nukes.
It’s all bull sheat.
“I don’t believe Obama should even pretend
to have a warrior spirit”
How did George W Bush’s “warrior spirit” work out for America?
Eh?
“CF2K advocates the death of any opposition.”
And just what do you expect from a racist imbecile.
No one cares what he advocates.
Oh, and he’s a loser, the only way he thinks he can win is to have his opposition die.
The world knew where they stood with Bush. There was no ambiguity. The enemy was clearly called an enemy. War was called “war” instead of the politically correct Overseas Contingency Operations (OCC) of the Obama admin. Terrorist were called terrorists. Obama calls them something less “threatening”.
North Korea and Iran launch rockets at will. Taliban and Al Queda openly attack and threaten under Obama.
Iraq would be an unrulely mess if not for Bush authorizing an unpopular, but necessary, increase in troop strength – without hesitation.
Yeah, the world knows a whimp when they see one. I can provide you warning quotes from EU leaders to Obama.
“Bush used WMD. Obama uses Paki Nukes”
Difference:
We know that Pakistan has nuclear weapons.
There was no rational reason to believe that Iraq had WMD prior to the invasion.
“The world knew where they stood with Bush.”
And that worked out REALLY well for the US.
One war entering it’s ninth year.
A second (unnecessary) war entering it’s seventh year.
Yeah, that worked out really well.
Now, let’s discuss all of our allies that Bush PO’d.
“Iraq would be an unrulely mess if not for Bush authorizing an unpopular, but necessary, increase in troop strength – without hesitation.”
Correction: Iraq would have continued to provide a counterbalance to Iran and al Qaeda had Bush not ordered an invasion.
Yeah, Saddam was a BAD MAN, but he was a BAD MAN that we created.
No great surprise to see the hallelujah chorus of cowardly right wing haters busily pleasuring one another. Also no surprise to see those who spent the last eight years bullying the opposition and using the Federal government as a partisan tool now abasing themselves as victims.
Losing white privilege seems to be hitting you guys pretty hard. That’s got to hurt.
AmWay appears to need some reading comprehension remediation, since nothing CF2K said regarding Dick Cheney could be remotely construed as “advocacy” of any course of action whatever. And of course ToxicLock has to go and jump on the bandwagon of hate.
Obama’s got you buffoons scared to death. I like it.
“There was no rational reason to believe that Iraq had WMD prior to the invasion.”–WSClark
Wow, the opinion or our resident ‘bright’ boy.
Nearly the whole world’s intelligence organizations thought Iraq had WMD as well.
“The intelligence community suffered a “collective group-think”, which led analysts to presume that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programmes and to interpret ambiguous evidence as conclusive, Senator Roberts said.
“It is clear that this group-think also extended to our allies, and to the United Nations, and several other nations as well, all of whom did believe that Saddam Hussein had active WMD programmes. This was a global intelligence failure.”
And I might add that was supported by Hussein’s own comments and actions along with his continual refusal to abide by UN inspections.
Monday morning quarterbacks on this are as common piles of dung in a feedlot, and just about as pleasant to be around.
“Obama’s got you buffoons scared to death. I like it.”–2FCK
And what I love is the reaction that is now and will continue to take place in response to that socialists attempts to dismantle the founding and constructive principles of this country.
He and is attitudes will fail, I just hope they do before he even more seriously harms this once great country.
“We know that Pakistan has nuclear weapons.”
You are still missing the point.
Any president can invent ANY righteous cause to carry the onward fighting soldiers shield to war.
Pakistan is who we probably should have invaded in November of 2001. We know they supported the Taliban and probably Al Queda.
By approving killing Afghanistan men, womenm, and children, and American troops in Afghanistan – is not going to do a thing to prevent anarchy in Pakistan.
Nothing short of direct intervention in that country.
Which is none of our business.
We keep sticking our neck out there where it doesn’t belong. Iraq and long term Afghanistan. Now libs [unbelievably] are advocating war in Pakistan.
None of it is right. None of it is our business.
Bring our boys home NOW!! From both Iraq and Afghanistan.
” since nothing CF2K said regarding Dick Cheney could be remotely construed as “advocacy” of any course of action whatever. ”
“The world will be a better place for his passing.”
“Nearly the whole world’s intelligence organizations thought Iraq had WMD as well.”
The UN inspectorasions left Iraq on the eve of the invasion due to the impending bombing, despite never discovering any evidence of WMD or programs to develop same.
“Wow, the opinion or our resident ‘bright’ boy.”
If Bush had allowed another couple of months of inspections, they would have proved what the world knows now – no Iraqi WMD.
“Now libs [unbelievably] are advocating war in Pakistan.”
Really? Name one.
“I just hope they do before he even more seriously harms this once great country.”
The most serious harm done to this great country (ever) happened on December 12, 2000.
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WSClark
Posted October 22, 2009 at 6:15 pm | Permalink
“Bush used WMD. Obama uses Paki Nukes”
Difference:
We know that Pakistan has nuclear weapons.
There was no rational reason to believe that Iraq had WMD prior to the invasion.
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The distinction between fact and fantasy is totally lost on the likes of American_Way.
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American_Way
Posted October 22, 2009 at 6:39 pm | Permalink
“We know that Pakistan has nuclear weapons.”
You are still missing the point.
Any president can invent ANY righteous cause to carry the onward fighting soldiers shield to war.
Pakistan is who we probably should have invaded in November of 2001. We know they supported the Taliban and probably Al Queda.
By approving killing Afghanistan men, womenm, and children, and American troops in Afghanistan – is not going to do a thing to prevent anarchy in Pakistan.
Nothing short of direct intervention in that country.
Which is none of our business.
We keep sticking our neck out there where it doesn’t belong. Iraq and long term Afghanistan. Now libs [unbelievably] are advocating war in Pakistan.
None of it is right. None of it is our business.
Bring our boys home NOW!! From both Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Be careful not to injure yourself flip-flopping around like that. I doubt you’d fare too well with one of Obama’s Socialist/Fascistic/Communistic Death Panels.
General Paul Eaton (Ret.)
“The record is clear: Dick Cheney and the Bush administration were incompetent war fighters. They ignored Afghanistan for 7 years with a crude approach to counter-insurgency warfare best illustrated by: 1. Deny it. 2. Ignore it. 3. Bomb it. While our intelligence agencies called the region the greatest threat to America, the Bush White House under-resourced our military efforts, shifted attention to Iraq, and failed to bring to justice the masterminds of September 11.
The only time Cheney and his cabal of foreign policy ‘experts’ have anything to say is when they feel compelled to protect this failed legacy. While President Obama is tasked with cleaning up the considerable mess they left behind, they continue to defend torture or rewrite a legacy of indifference on Afghanistan. Simply put, Mr. Cheney sees history throughout extremely myopic and partisan eyes.”
Obama is much too busy to worry about a few hundred American troops getting killed while waiting for a decision on Afghanistan.
Just nine months into his presidency, President Obama has appeared at 23
Democratic fundraisers, including the two he attended Tuesday night,
compared with George W. Bush, who did six political fundraisers, and
Bill Clinton, who did five, during their first year in office.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/21/obamas-appearances-fundraisers-outpaces-predecessors/
Has General McCrystal submitted a formal request for additional troops to his boss, General Petyrus?
Nope.
AmWay,
As literate people know, “passing” denotes a natural death. So thanks for making my point.
ToxicBox,
Yeah–I don’t know if America can stand much more damage after what Bushco did to our foreign policy and Wall Street’s single-handed destruction of the American economy.
“Has General McCrystal submitted a formal request for additional troops to his boss, General Petyrus?”
General Petraeus
And are idiots going to use the excuse Obama doesn’t KNOW what his general has publicly said he needs?
Maybe if Cheney had “dithered” a bit, he wouldn’t have gotten us in this jam to begin with. Even the most recent history should have given him pause. If the Soviet Union couldn’t “pacify” Afghanistan with well over a hundred thousand well equipped troops in ten years of fighting, maybe he should have thought twice about trying to do it with far fewer. If the cost of the Afghan war in both human and monetary terms had broken the back of the USSR, why didn’t Cheney consider the risks of the same thing happening when we tried it? Maybe if he’d “dithered” a bit more, he’d have considered the other risks too, such as the reactions of all the people and governments in the region.
Maybe if he’d “dithered” a bit about cherry-picking the intelligence about Iraq, he’d have come to some other conclusion there too.
Cheney’s tough talk now is just his attempt to cover his own backside in light of all his disastrous errors in judgememt that have become so apparent over the last eight years. Time for him to slowly back into the shadows and try to look invisible!
“If Bush had allowed another couple of months of inspections, they would have proved what the world knows now – no Iraqi WMD.”—the village idiot
You mean lead around by Saddam and not allowed to go anywhere he decided they couldn’t? You call that effective inspections….what a laugh.
Wall Street brought the American Economy to a pinnacle of world respect.
The congressional Democrats allowed, no demanded, the stupid lending practices that the Bush administration warned repeatedly about that eventually brought the house of cards down.
“And are idiots going to use the excuse Obama doesn’t KNOW what his general has publicly said he needs?”
Chain of command – military requirement.
“You mean lead around by Saddam and not allowed to go anywhere he decided they couldn’t?”
And when Bush invaded, what WMD did they find?
“The congressional Democrats allowed, no demanded”
And who controlled Congress from 1995 until 2007?
Obama did send additional troops in back in March. This request had sat on Bush’s & Cheney’s desks for eight months…
It’s October. Obama has been president since January.
Libs. Bush is gone. Get over it.
:-)
DavidB, where is the link or source for the 8 months?
And then why did it sit on Obama’s for 3?
As a presidental candidate, Barack Obama repeatedly said he would reinforce the U.S. troops in Afghanistan. Now, as commander-in-chief, however, Obama has thus far failed to heed the request of Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the U.S. commander in Afghanistan, to send more troops to that country.
In July 2008, then-candidate Obama told CNN, “We allowed the Taliban and Al Qaeda to regenerate itself when we had them on the ropes. That was a big mistake, and it’s one I’m going to correct when I’m president.”
On Mar. 27, 2009, Obama announced “I want the American people to understand that we have a clear and focused goal to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat Al Qaeda in Pakistan and Afghanistan and to prevent their return to either country in the future,”
When Obama was campaigning throughout 2007 and 2008, first against fellow Democratic candidates, and then against Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), he said multiple times that the conflict in Afghanistan was a war we “have to win,” that it should be prioritized over Iraq, and that he would redeploy at least two brigades to the country often called the “graveyard of empires.”
Aug. 1, 2007, Obama was already talking about the redeployment he would order as president: “Our troops have fought valiantly there [Afghanistan], but Iraq has deprived them of the support they need — and deserve. … As president, I would deploy at least two additional brigades to Afghanistan to re-enforce our counterterrorism operations and support NATO’s efforts against the Taliban.”
On July 8, 2008 he said he thought Afghanistan was more central to the security of the United States than Iraq. “If another attack on our homeland comes, it will likely come from the same region where 9/11 was planned,” said Obama. “And yet today, we have five times more troops in Iraq than Afghanistan.”
On July 20, 2008, Obama took a trip to Afghanistan and told Lara Logan of CBS: “For at least a year now, I have called for two additional brigades, perhaps three.” He also told Logan he believed “this has to be our central focus, the central front, on our battle against terrorism”
“Our troops and our NATO allies are performing heroically in Afghanistan, but I have argued for years that we lack the resources to finish the job because of our commitment to Iraq,” Obama said.
“And that’s why, as president, I will make the fight against Al Qaeda and the Taliban the top priority that it should be. This is a war that we have to win,” the Democratic nominee said.
first presidential debate, moderated by Jim Lehrer “We took our eye off Afghanistan,” said Obama. “We took our eye off the folks who perpetrated 9/11.”
He also told “CBS Evening News” host Katie Couric that the United States had “failed to seriously go after Al Qaeda over the last five years, because of the distraction of Iraq” and that “we are now seeing the consequences of that in Afghanistan.”
On Jan. 14 of this year, a week before being sworn in as president, Obama again told Couric that the United States “took our eye off the ball,” and that “our real focus has to be on Afghanistan, the border regions between Afghanistan and Pakistan . . . [t]hat’s my number one priority as president of the United States
Despite those comments, Obama recently indicated he may not give McChrystal the 40,000 troops the top military authority in Afghanistan says he needs for success, at least until he is satisfied that the “right strategy” is in place, and apparently in place of the “new comprehensive strategy” he outlined in March
“And that’s why, as president, I will make the fight against Al Qaeda and the Taliban the top priority that it should be. This is a war that we have to win,”
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Boxlock20
Posted October 22, 2009 at 7:56 pm | Permalink
“If Bush had allowed another couple of months of inspections, they would have proved what the world knows now – no Iraqi WMD.”—the village idiot
You mean lead around by Saddam and not allowed to go anywhere he decided they couldn’t? You call that effective inspections….what a laugh.
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Have you considered the possibility that Hans Blix and the U.N. inspectors didn’t find WMD not because of lack of proper access but because there were no WMD present to be found?
Ever hear of Occam’s Razor?
Good morning Afghanistan!!!!
On the question of whether the administration has a clear strategy for
Afghanistan, 63 percent of all Americans say it does not. More than
eight in 10 Republicans, about two-thirds of independents and nearly
half of Democrats think the administration does not have a clear plan.
Some critics of U.S. policy have warned that the nation could be headed
toward a Vietnam War-like quagmire in Afghanistan. About a third in the
Post-ABC News poll said they agreed with that assessment, while about
three in five said they think that will be avoided. There is both
partisan and ideological agreement on this question.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/20/AR200910
2003780_2.html?nav=hcmodule&sid=ST2009102004276
The most serious harm done to this great country (ever) happened on December 12, 2000.
Was that when WSClark moved into Kansas?
I’ll bet American_Way was kicking his little feet and clenching his little fists on September 13, 1962 asking why we hadn’t put a man on the moon yet and calling President Kennedy a LIAR!
ToxicBox,
Blaming black folks again, I see, for the misdeeds of white people on Wall Street. Ever heard of a credit default swap? THAT’S what tanked the world economy.
Daniel what the same he11 are you rambling on about?
Is there a point there somewhere?
Or just a little insult because you disagree with my views?
Sam he11 vice same he11
dangit.
But let’s get back to the subject of the thread, shall we? Richard Bruce Cheney–a man who sent hundreds of thousands of people to their gratuitous deaths, who approved torture, who lied to the American people in order to attack Iraq and take its oil.
Why should anyone care what this war criminal thinks?
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American_Way
Posted October 22, 2009 at 9:04 pm | Permalink
Daniel what the same he11 are you rambling on about?
Is there a point there somewhere?
Or just a little insult because you disagree with my views?
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President Kennedy made his ‘let’s put a man on the moon by the end of the decade’ speech on September 12, 1962.
You seem to be very impatient with President Obama. As I mentioned up thread, it might take longer than 9 months to undo 7 years worth of failure in Afghanistan.
Most grownups understand this.
Patience, grasshopper.
American_Way
Posted October 22, 2009 at 8:24 pm | Permalink
“And that’s why, as president, I will make the fight against Al Qaeda and the Taliban the top priority that it should be. This is a war that we have to win,”
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Or not.
Obama didn’t realize Americans would be getting killed in war. And HE failed to understand how American Soldiers returning home in caskets would hurt his political ratings so much.
Tough talk on the campaign trail doesn’t compare to actually having responsibility for something, for the first time in his life.
Daniel
Posted October 22, 2009 at 8:42 pm | Permalink
I’ll bet American_Way was kicking his little feet and clenching his little fists on September 13, 1962 asking why we hadn’t put a man on the moon yet and calling President Kennedy a LIAR!
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You can almost hear Daniel panting and see him drueling over that picture of Obama he has on his wall.
Little early to be comparing BHO to JFK.
BHO is much more like LBJ.
JJ,
Ever been a United States Senator? No? Thought not.
Daniel,
Are you so dense or prejudiced that you can’t remember that the U.N. inspectors were not allowed to go where they wanted, and only where Saddam approved or they were thrown out.
JJ,
Well, if Obama gets health care reform passed with a strong public option, as a majority of the American people support, then he’ll be VERY MUCH like LBJ, who passed Medicare and Medicaid. That would be fine by me.
Former United States Marine and UN Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter:
“There’s no doubt Iraq hasn’t fully complied with its disarmament obligations as set forth by the Security Council in its resolution. But on the other hand, since 1998 Iraq has been fundamentally disarmed: 90-95% of Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction capacity has been verifiably eliminated… We have to remember that this missing 5-10% doesn’t necessarily constitute a threat… It constitutes bits and pieces of a weapons program which in its totality doesn’t amount to much, but which is still prohibited… We can’t give Iraq a clean bill of health, therefore we can’t close the book on their weapons of mass destruction. But simultaneously, we can’t reasonably talk about Iraqi non-compliance as representing a de-facto retention of a prohibited capacity worthy of war.”
I seem to recall him speaking out very vocally against the Iraq war, pointing out that we’d be stuck there “for years.” His reward? Being branded by the radical-”right” as a traitor.
ToxicBox,
Liar. The IAEA and Mohammad AlBaradei say the inspections DID work.
“I think the sanctions worked, and more importantly, the inspections worked,” Dr. ElBaradei says. “A combination of sanctions and inspections managed to disarm Iraq.”
http://www.iaea.org/NewsCenter/News/2004/inspectionsiraq20040202.html
Daniel,
These people have no patience. They’re spoiled baby boomers who want their instant gratification and they want it right now. These are the people who claimed the Iraq war would be over in 90 days, remember? Who claimed that it would cost “fifty billion, tops,” and would be paid for out of Iraqi oil revenues.
They were wrong about Iraq in 2002 and 2003, and the’re wrong now. They’re equally wrong about Afghanistan.
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JimJohnson
Posted October 22, 2009 at 9:20 pm | Permalink
Little early to be comparing BHO to JFK.
BHO is much more like LBJ.
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You made the BHO = LBJ comparison once before and I thought about it for awhile. I think BHO is more analogous to RMN vis-à-vis their respective foreign policy predicaments upon entering office.
LBJ escalated a war of choice.
LBJ was from Texas.
Where have I heard this story before?
BHO is like Nixon?
Wow, first time I saw that comparison.
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Boxlock20
Posted October 22, 2009 at 9:23 pm | Permalink
Daniel,
Are you so dense or prejudiced that you can’t remember that the U.N. inspectors were not allowed to go where they wanted, and only where Saddam approved or they were thrown out.
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Are you so dense or prejudiced as to be unagble accept the fact that not only was the proof not in the pudding…..there was no pudding!
And you like to characterize libs as gullible.
(chortles)
thomaswitt
Posted October 22, 2009 at 9:27 pm | Permalink
Daniel,
These people have no patience. They’re spoiled baby boomers who want their instant gratification and they want it right now.
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Very true.
You don’t irritate me Boxy. I usually get a big laugh out of your posts. But think whatever you want, whatever trips your trap.
Dennis
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JimJohnson
Posted October 22, 2009 at 9:33 pm | Permalink
BHO is like Nixon?
Wow, first time I saw that comparison.
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More so than LBJ regarding foreign policy debacles, yes.
10% of the country are spoiled, lookin for instant gratification right Daniel? They are looking for jobs.
JimJohnson, you can thank Bush and Cheney for this recession that started in 2007. They ran up the debt on Iraq, let the speculators run amok, and passed out ten of billions in no-bid contracts to their friends, who promptly outsourced labor to third-world workers whose workmanship was so shoddy that American troops were electrocuted taking showers. If not for the massive intervention in the economy this year, 10% would have been the starting point for the unemployment disaster, and you know it.
thomaswitt,
He knows it, but he’ll never admit it.
Daniel,
I’ve long ago given up on intellectual honesty from the so-called “conservatives” who have taken over and destroyed the Republican Party. Increasingly, all that’s left are southern racists, uneducated bigots, and spoiled baby boomer brats. They’re welcome to the carcass.
Obama promised that the unemployment rate would not rise above 8%, if his ‘Stimulus’ Bill was passed immediately (without anyone have time to read it before voting for it).
The Bill was passed, unemployment close to 10% now, and weekly job loss reports are getting worse.
Deficit and Debt are both now at record levels.
Government has now taken over banks, insurance companies, and auto companies, and still have not saved us.
We have less Freedom, More Debt, Fewer Jobs, all due to the failures of a Democrat Congress for nearly 3 years now. And now with Obama’s help, the downward spiral continues at a rapid pace.
JimJohnson,
This is what your people over at Fox Business had to say last week:
The recession, which began in December 2007, has ended but the nation still faces a long slow recovery, according to economists surveyed by the National Association for Business Economics.
More than 80% of respondents to the quarterly NABE survey said they believe an expansion has begun. The survey was released Monday at the Association’s annual meeting here in St. Louis.
“The good news is that this deep and long recession appears to be over, and with improving credit markets, the U.S. economy can return to solid growth next year without worry about rising inflation,” according to Lynn Reaser, chief economist at Point Loma Nazarene University and NABE President-elect.
Even with the recovery, the NABE panel forecast the unemployment rate to increase to 10% in the first quarter of 2010 from the current 9.8% and to edge down to 9.5% by the end of the year.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/economy/leading-economists-declare-end-recession/
Obama misses the unemployment mark by 2%, and you want to crucify the guy. Bush misses the WMD’s in Iraq by 100%, but those were the good old days, right?
Right?
thomaswitt should be fined and suspended from hanging out in the lobby for that irrelevant comparison.
We expect more, thomaswitt.
thomaswitt
Posted October 22, 2009 at 9:54 pm | Permalink
Daniel,
I’ve long ago given up on intellectual honesty
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We knew this.
Outlander,
Given that the topic of this thread is about Cheney commenting on Obama’s foreign policy, you should be congratulating me on deftly refocusing the conversation on the failures of the Bush/Cheney foreign policy. I can’t help it if your side can’t seem to stick to one subject long enough to have a decent discussion without bringing up irrelevant comments about the unemployment rate. Unless, of course, that unemployment rate is a direct result of the failed foreign policies of the Bush/Cheney administration.
But thanks for bringing that up. :)
T.Witt, refers us to FoxNews to explain away Obama’s Eff-Ups?
Since when is the end of a recession, and a forecast for growth with low inflation, an Obama ‘eff-up?’
You people need to put the Rod Serling blow-up dolls down and back slowly away.
Obama misses the unemployment mark by 2%…
That’s what? LIke almost two million people?
Yeah, we should let that slide…
thomaswitt
Posted October 22, 2009 at 10:21 pm | Permalink
Since when is the end of a recession, and a forecast for growth with low inflation, an Obama ‘eff-up?’
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It’s considered an ‘eff-up’ because it’s good news for the USA but bad news for the GOP.
Daniel,
Thanks. I don’t know how I missed that….
I wonder who would win in a fight. Cheney or a Pit Bull?
Barnie,
I actually picture Cheney in this kind of fight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhRUe-gz690
Voice of Cheney: “It’s only a flesh wound!”
Now that’s sinking pretty low. They beat this Frank Gaffney guy up, and rightly so, but the way he fights back sinks lower than anything. Does he really think he knows the relationship the deceased Ronald Reagan had with his son better?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wirvbx6-mVM
Jimbo.. what “Freedom” has been taken away from you?
Why is it the right wing tends to attack Democrats by comparing them with Republicans? Well, Republicans or Hitler……
Ron was really feisty and combative with Frank Gaffney. It was great! There must be some history there I don’t know about.
How is what Cheney doing not treason? He is traveling to other countries, having private meetings with foreign leadership telling them not to trust the current administration. I think the man is a psychotic megalomaniac.
“janabanana” asks –
“How is what Cheney doing not treason? He is traveling to other countries, having private meetings with foreign leadership telling them not to trust the current administration. I think the man is a psychotic megalomaniac.”
But when has (the big) Dick Cheney ever been wrong?
Oh, wait…
All this from a person who avoided the draft at all cost. Sit in the back and tell everybody they are wrong an he is right. He spent more time in the drunk tank than serving in the service. Nothing more than a coward. Just like the rest of his family. Cowards. Send everybody else’s family’s members to war. But sits back here. Where it’s safe and warm. Cussing the people who are trying to clean up the mess he caused. Why has this war criminal not been thrown in jail. After seeing his family. Full of drunks and gays. Maybe he should clean them up first. But thats how cowards are.
Thomaswitt,
These jokers aren’t spoiled baby boomers wanting instant gratification; they want more than anything in their pitiful lives for Obama to fail. They will grasp at the tiniest straw to say the black guy can’t be president. They will do anything to undermine him, and don’t give a ratzass if they have to destroy America to do it. These aren’t bratty children that never grew up, they are bigots and traitors and a danger to our country!
HA HA HA HA! Right on cue, here’s Rep. Alan Grayson on Big Dick:
“During an appearance yesterday on Hardball, Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) jokingly suggested that former Vice President Dick Cheney is a vampire.
Chris Matthews asked Grayson what he thinks of Cheney’s attacks on President Obama for “dithering” on Afghanistan.
“Well, my response is — and by the way, I have trouble listening to what he says sometimes, because of the blood that drips from his teeth while he’s talking,” said Grayson. “But my response is this: He’s just angry because the president doesn’t shoot old men in the face. But by the way, when he was done speaking, did he just then turn into a bat and fly away?”
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/grayson-cheney-has-blood-that-drips-from-his-teeth.php?ref=fpblg
Ridicule and scorn are all that washed-up, murderous, would-be tyrants like Cheney deserve. Well, that and incarceration.