Tea party supporters are upset with the mainstream media for reporting that the number of people at the 9/12 rally in Washington, D.C., totaled in the “tens of thousands.” Some conservatives have said that the total was more than a million, and they see the disparity as another example of liberal bias. Washington Post ombudsman Andrew Alexander explains the process his newspaper went through to try to estimate the crowd size. Meanwhile, an aerial photo circulating on the Internet supposedly showing a huge crowd at the 9/12 rally turns out to be from a different rally in the 1990s.
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How many people attended 9/12 rally?
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45 Trillion….and a half…
Another distraction thread!
Woo Hoo!!
Probably more than attended the kook RR rally. “There must be half a million of us”, or at least 20,000!
Still no answer from the msm on the number that attended. Why does the left not want the number out there.
Even the fire department that guessed 75,000 admitted that they made that guess ‘early in the day’.
What is the press running from?
So, find a real aerial photo. Lazy ba$tards.
fleettwood posted September 18, 2009 at 1:21 pm
So, find a real aerial photo. Lazy ba$tards.
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fleettwood seems to be too “lazy” to read the “explains” link in the header.
Who cares? From the pictures I’ve seen, none of them could spell anyway.
And I, as a progressive am supposed to be afraid of… ?
And I, as a progressive am supposed to be afraid of… ?
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Nothing.
Go back to sleep.
No photo, no problem, just use one from a decade ago!
“We didn’t do that to lowball it. We did it to be safe.”
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Read: Lazy
Lazy? Next time have your people out there with a punch counter!
cosmos_originally
Posted September 18, 2009 at 1:27 pm | Permalink
fleettwood posted September 18, 2009 at 1:21 pm
So, find a real aerial photo. Lazy ba$tards.
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fleettwood seems to be too “lazy” to read the “explains” link in the header.
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cosmos,
for some people, reading is hard work. The link says: “airspace over the Mall is restricted.”
I have a friend in D.C. who said there was 1.32 million in attendance.
Capn’A’s friend is a liar and a tax cheat.
It’s not very hard to figure this one out.
D.C. is overwhelmingly Democratic territory. This is true for the area immediately around D.C. as well. Can you even FIND a million cons in and near D.C? No. So, they have to come from somewhere else.
SO, the best way you cons could prove a high attendance would be to prove a surge in passengers on flights to D.C., higher than normal passengers on Amtrak and a surge in revenue from toll roads for the days leading up to 9 12 and the days following it. Til then, I’m gonna go with the lower figures. Cooperative activism is not a con strength.
Obama and Dems will ignore the protest. This will only strengthen the cause.
After all, it’s only been 9 months.
Here’s one I would like an answer to:
It’s been said, by the dems, that the health care bill must pass this year. Next year would be too late. Why is that?
Well, call Sen. Harkin’s office on that question fleett
One might also expect to see a spike in hotel and motel traffic before, during, and immediately after 9 12. in the D.C. and nearby area. Try and find it. I bet it aint there.
He didn’t answer the phone.
Reality check.
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/how-many-protesters1/
“Organizers of such events, regardless of their partisan leanings, commonly claim higher numbers than public officials or news reporters estimate.”
No kidding. And guess which sources have a motive to exaggerate? It’s not the Washington FD nor the MSM.
http://www.politifact.org/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/sep/14/blog-posting/blogger-claim-photo-shows-millions-tea-party-prote/
Looked like a schitt load of people to me.
“So, find a real aerial photo. Lazy ba$tards.”
Re: Fleettwood
DNFDBT #1
“I have a friend in D.C. who said there was 1.32 million in attendance.
“Capn’A’s friend is a liar and a tax cheat.”
Re: Anti
DNFDBT #2
Re: Agnatha
GFYS
My favorite sign read:
We Came Unarmed
(This Time)
Maybe when Google Earth photos are released once can tell.
Oh wait, they are O’BAMA supporters, will never happen.
I’ve noticed that the Google search engine has become so zoned with liberal crap, you can’t even search for George Washington without getting some leftist spin in the first page.
“Meanwhile, an aerial photo circulating on the Internet supposedly showing a huge crowd at the 9/12 rally turns out to be from a different rally in the 1990s.”
typical of the tea-baggers.
From wikianswers…
“According to census.gov, the 2008 ACS population estimate for the Washington DC is 591,833.”
Call it 600,000. We know that Republicans are only about 10% of DC voters. PROBABLY part of the reason the cons oppose letting them have representation. But that’s another thread.
Assume ALL of them went teabagging. That’s liberal of me.
That would be about 60,000 people. Now, to get any bigger than that, the crowd has to come from elsewhere.
All you cons have to show is the economic impact that your million man myth made on the DC area economy.
The population of the entire Baltimore-Washington Metroplex as of 2007 is 8,241,912.
It is encouraging to see this million plus crowd protesting the Marxist ways of Obama!
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fleettwood
Posted September 18, 2009 at 2:38 pm | Permalink
Here’s one I would like an answer to:
It’s been said, by the dems, that the health care bill must pass this year. Next year would be too late. Why is that?
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Sorry fleetwood,
They won’t answer because the answer is too obvious, It has to be passed before the masses realize what’s happening.
Better question,
Where can I get a copy of ‘Obama’s plan’?
I’m glad that two million people went to the rally.
Here’s one I would like an answer to:
It’s been said, by the dems, that the health care bill must pass this year. Next year would be too late. Why is that?
A very good article on the size of the crowd.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-big-was-the-crowd/
fleettwood
Posted September 18, 2009 at 3:45 pm | Permalink
Here’s one I would like an answer to:
It’s been said, by the dems, that the health care bill must pass this year. Next year would be too late. Why is that?
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Sorry for having to state the obvious, but you did ask: Politicians are much more risk-averse during election years.
I mean, hey, it was a Protest Rally… Who cares how many attended???
Sorry for having to state the obvious, but you did ask: Politicians are much more risk-averse during election years.
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Thank you Mr. Davis. Isn’t the health care bill a good thing? And wouldn’t that help them get elected?
Regular:
Great article!
Where’s ‘Obama’s’ plan?
Where is his leadership?
Who’s writing this healthcare bill?
Where’s ‘Obama’s’ plan?
Where is his leadership?
Who’s writing this healthcare bill?
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Where is Joe Biden?!?!
Where does the white go when the snow melts?
I’ve had fun identifying the various protesters and groups — no matter how many were there they represented a wide variety of ’causes.’
Here’s one that gave me a good laugh –
Billionaires for Wealthcare is a grassroots network of health insurance CEOs, industry lobbyists, talk-show hosts, and others profiting off of our broken health care system.
We are not a political, religious or even particularly well-organized group. We’re simple folk, thrilled profiteers pouring out of our corner offices to dance on the grave of “Change.”
We’ll do whatever it takes to ensure another decade where your pain is our gain. After all, when it comes to healthcare, if we ain’t broke, why fix it?
http://www.billionairesforwealthcare.com/2009/09/14/rachel-maddow-reports/
Typical Maddow/Oberman snark.
Substance? meh
How large was the crowd? Who cares. If they had been lefties, and even 20 showed up, the pictures would have been all over the MSM. But that same media chose to largely ignore this rally, just as it chooses to ignore the local rallies all across the country.
Why?
It doesn’t fit the narrative. And the narrative must be served.
The media is what it is, and what has been for a great deal of time. While it isn’t “right” or “fair,” no one promised that, and the 1st Am. guarantees their right to print what they choose. Fine; I just know that I will have to to go other sources to get a more genuine view of the truth. In the MSM, you’ll get the chosen narrative, and little else.
Of course I have a opinion on this but after reading through the post there is enough B.S.
Since one issue is the aerial photo that was found on the web.
Here is a funny story of the same approach, a printer in Pakistan was given the job of making posters in support of Osama Bin Laden. He went on the web to get a picture of OBL and used one he found in the search.
Half way through the parade someone notice the posters and the demand for the death of the printer went out. The poster had a photo shopped picture of OBL with a bottle of J.D. in one hand and a ham shank in the other!
Ok I am moving on….
“In the MSM, you’ll get the chosen narrative, and little else.” [GMC]
GMC, do you consider MSNBC and CNN to be mainstream media?? I sat here last Saturday, and watched the 9/12 Rally unfolding on BOTH CNN and MSNBC, for better than 2 hours… closer to 3 hours…
I THINK I heard from a friend of mine, that the Rally was also being covered on C-SPAN… My local Cable network shows C-SPAN, but it doesnt come in too clear…
checking people on airline flights won’t prove anything…according to the NY times, there were people there from all 50 states. If everyone of the attendees flew, it wouldn’t necessarily show up in daily flight info.
Reason being…according to the US Bureau of Transportation Statistics (sadly, there is such a place) there were 282 airline million passengers in this country the first 5 months of this year. That works out to a daily average of 1.88 million passengers a day nationwide.
So, if ALL the attendees flew there (highly unlikely, since there are such population concentrations in the eastern part of this country) that many people could have flown over the course of a 2 or 3 day spread and not created a blip on daily travel figures. It cannot be assumed that everyone flying there flew into a DC area airport, either. Any such assumption has no basis in fact.
Checking hotels? Riiight. There is an average of over 16 million visitors in DC every year…and last time I was there, the hotel didn’t ask my purpose for being there. There is no reason to believe every visitor stayed in a DC hotel, either. That is a very large metro area, with tens of thousands of hotels spread across several states.
So, “bj” your attempt at discrediting the numbers of people there by such silliness just doesn’t wash.
I think its pretty funny the right has to use fake pics of their rally to show bigger numbers than they actually had. The numbers were inflated in Salina too on that first one they had here.
But hey, whatever makes you guys sleep at night lol.
http://www.ocpathink.org/publications/perspective-archives/september-2009-volume-16-number-9/?module=perspective&id=2321
Oklahoma high school students can’t pass a basic government test. 2.9% can pass the citizenship pass. This is your conservativism example. They didn’t want the prez to speak to their kids because they don’t want their kids to know about how government works. They’re working towards that fascism model.
You have so much hate Pmama.
“So, if ALL the attendees flew there (highly unlikely…”"
Playing along, just HOW is the average American supposed to identify with people who have the excess money and time to fly to DC to gripe? If you have that kind of excess in time and money, your taxes probably NEED to go up.
No points this round Raptor. Either there weren’t that many people there or there is even greater reason to dislike them.
There are 400,000 people in the Wichita metro area. Yet in this majority Republican area, only a few thousand turned out to teabag. I don’t see a million and more of their like minded flying or driving to DC even from all over the Northeast.
In short, to the cons and their rowdies rally I say pooh!
And again pooh!
There was a total of 8 of us —- they just took our picture 200,000 times
fleettwood
Posted September 18, 2009 at 4:10 pm | Permalink
Sorry for having to state the obvious, but you did ask: Politicians are much more risk-averse during election years.
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Thank you Mr. Davis. Isn’t the health care bill a good thing? And wouldn’t that help them get elected?
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It should. But dum basses like you make that more difficult. ESADY, please, fletty.
Interesting how the CONs circulated a fake photo to back up their fake claims of a million protestors.
In CON World, one starts with what SHOULD BE true and works backwards. Facts don’t matter when you already know that the CONclusions have to be true.
Tax cuts ALWAYS stimulate the economy . . . nevermind that Clinton raised taxes and the economy boomed while Bush cut taxes and the economy sank.
Gov’t spending to stimulate the economy NEVER WORKS nevermind the many times like the WPA and Cash for Clunkers when it seems to have worked pretty well.
Don’t CONfuse us with the facts. We already know the CONclusions.
“How many people attended 9/12 rally?”
A good start.
Not even enough people to fill a football stadium. What a flop!