It’s an old, sarcastic argument but an interesting one, especially considering how ubiquitous metal detectors and purse searches are throughout Washington, D.C., and how many friends the National Rifle Association has in Congress: Why should Second Amendment rights stop at the Capitol steps? “Congress seems to think that gun restrictions are for wimps,” wrote Washington Post columnist E.J. Dionne. “It voted this year to allow people to bring their weapons into national parks, and pro-gun legislators have pushed for the right to carry in taverns, colleges and workplaces. Shouldn’t Congress set an example in its own workplace?”
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For over 200 years this hasn’t been an issue but suddenly the wangs of Republicans have shrank so much they need to feel manly again, so they think they can play John Wayne and strap on a pistol. What a bunch of losers.
What part of “…shall NOT BE INFRINGED” do you not understand.
(Be careful or I’ll bone-dig my “Guns in Prisons” post!)
Oh Please MonkeyHawk, do your bone-dig!
Every now and then we forget what a complete idiot you are and nothing demonstrates your stupidity better than your “Guns in Prison” post!
If someone wants to visit congress and even if it’s just to sit in on hearings, they should be able to exercise their right and be locked and loaded.
Thank you ‘minutelady’, good call.
Everyone should know from their actions that many members of Congress don’t exhibit the maturity to carry a firearm, but they should be allowed to absent criminal records that deny it.
As for everyone else carrying….well they have passed a background check many members of Congress couldn’t I’ll bet.
““It voted this year to allow people to bring their weapons into national parks”
A horrible mistake which will ultimately destroy the National parks experience.
Enough. Ban guns.
Seems to me that’s up to Congress. Next non-issue . . .
Interesting idea… firearms in the halls of congress… I’d love to see the roll call vote on that.
If I remember correctly, DC pretty much is a ‘gun free zone’ or should I say ‘legal gun free zone’. If congress allowed concealed carry, how would one get his gun to the doors of congress legally?
Waiting for the ‘bone-dig’, MonkeyHawk!
“A horrible mistake which will ultimately destroy the National parks experience.
Enough. Ban guns.”
What a crackpot statement….what’s new.
See, “minutelady?”
Here I was thinking you were a relatively new addition to this little WE Blog community.
But when you post:
“Every now and then we forget what a complete idiot you are and nothing demonstrates your stupidity better than your “Guns in Prison” post!”
… you reveal you’re simply another nym for a longtime CONtributor to this forum.
Normally I don’t get involved in the constant “who-is-whom?” flame wars that erupt from time to time.
But your blatant admission you know about my long-ago “Guns in Prison” post exposes you.
So you are/were you, “minutelady?”
Why the nym-change?
Same reason “Franklin” or “Econ101″ or “MaxGrobnik” et al are no longer here?
Frankly I don’t care who “JimJohnson” was or if “wichhick” is “okobserver” in drag. Or vice versa.
Thing is, you CONs need to get your lies and attacks and agendas straight.
You’re turning into sideshow freaks alongside the political midway.
All of the Birthers in Congress yesterday voted in favor of a resolution that honored Hawaii as the birthplace of President Obama. Not just some of ‘em, all of ‘em.
Somebody forgot to send the memo, I guess.
Interesting how the libs resort to trying to figure out who’s posting under what nic whenever they run out of rational arguments. They can’t believe that more than one conservative poster sees through their stupid, self-serving, intellectually dishonest posts.
You’ve obviously caught a dose of BlueJay’s paranoia.
I admit to nothing other than occasionally lurking in the past.
Waiting for your ‘bone-dig’.
“If I remember correctly, DC pretty much is a ‘gun free zone’ or should I say ‘legal gun free zone’. If congress allowed concealed carry, how would one get his gun to the doors of congress legally?”
Precisely why we need the Federal law to over rule local and state laws, cc for all. Our rights should not end at the Capitol’s steps!
Oh my, oh my….who’s behind that new nic?
It’s soooo scary!
“Interesting how the libs resort to trying to figure out who’s posting under what nic whenever they run out of rational arguments.”
MORE interesting that many cons “rational” arguments so often result in a need to totally abandon their identity and try to establish a new one.
Isn’t that right Hank?
I’m pretty sure the Second Ammendment trumps most of the ridiculous ‘local and state laws’.
I see no problem with preventing convicted felons from owning guns but citizens should have very few restrictions on gun ownership.
Unfortunately it’s almost impossible to have a rational debate on the subject with people that don’t trust honest citizens.
If you don’t trust children with loaded weapons, why would you want to trust members of Congress; they are even more juvenile and immature. Just look at what they do there!
Can you imagine if that guy’d had a gun when cheney told him to go f himself?
minutelady = Hank in the land of paranoia.
So, now what?
Got anything constructive to add to the discussion? Still scared to go to the National Parks?
It’s legal to carry now in Sedgwick County park and it’s been completely destroyed!
The genesis of a nic: “Hank, I told you to quit posting, and answer that damn phone!”
“Just a minute lady.”
So. . .
Just for fun, how many nics do you people now believe are being used by ‘Hank’?
How do you know that ‘Hank’ isn’t just another nic for someone else?
You continue to prove my point, Phantom! You’ve nothing rational to contribute.
“minutelady” asserts –
“I see no problem with preventing convicted felons from owning guns”
What part of “…shall not be infringed” do you not understand?
LOL.. if some con wants to dress in drag, who gives a f?
Can you imagine if that guy’d had a gun when cheney told him to go f himself?
Why, yes I can so imagine. Nothing would have happened.
Your assuming otherwise speaks volumes about you; you’re saying that if YOU had been packing, and someone said that, you’d have to kill. Why do you attribute your apparant lack of self control to others?
In the real wold, millions carry a legal CC firearm everyday, and I have no doubt that they are insulted from time to time. Yet they don’t kill. In short, your comment is nothing more than the overwhelmingly disproven “blood in the streets” argument. It’s been proven wrong every time its been trotted out. It’s still wrong.
What happened, “GMC70?”
Were you late getting in to “work?”
Poor MonkeyHawk, reduced to personal attacks.
Where’s the ‘bone-dig’? Show us an example of your superior intelligence!
What happened, MH?
Nothing of substance to add?
Shocked, I am. Truly shocked.
I think minutelady is really okie grannie – the name gave her away.
It only takes a minute before she will show her ‘Christian’ love and then the Devil shows up!
BlueJay, minutelady = Hank
totoinks, minutelady = okie granny
MonkeyHawk, minutelady = ‘another nym for a longtime CONtributor’
Any other guesses from the paranoid peanut gallery?
LOL!
Maybe this is a better place for this:
The average American household income is $45,000.
Rank-and-File congress member’s average salary is $174,000
Why don’t the congressional members receive the average American income? Provided by the State they represent? Why don’t we let their constituents determine what pay their representative receives?
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/uscongress/a/congresspay.htm
Who in their right mind gave congress the ability to vote for their own salary and benefits?
Why does a congressperson receive their full salary for life after serving only one term?
Why do they receive platinum level insurance?
Why do they not have to pay into social security?
They are, after all, merely part time employees. I take that back. They are servants. They are in position to serve the needs of their constituents. When did they become ever so much more than simply a representative of their constituents?
America has problems true enough. And look at the position we’ve granted those that we count on to solve the problems. Hell the majority of our problems were CREATED by these people.
Wake up America. It’s time to take your country back.
Still waiting for the ‘bone-dig’.
Typical lib, empty promises.
minutelady = monkeyhawk on Tuesdays and Thursdays
minutelady = Hank on Mondays and Wednesdays.
minutelady = Anti on Fridays
minutelady = Regular on weekends.
Got it straight now?
It’s not paranoid if they’re really against ya.
So tell us, “minutelady,” how you became conversant on my long-ago “Guns in Prison” proposal?
As I’ve said many times in this forum, I don’t care if all of you CONs are the same person, sitting in “Regular’s” soiled Depends, spewing off all you CONs’ silly memes, slogans, and AM radio talking points.
I tend to take you on — and hand you your asses — one at a time on a case by case basis.
But when a new nym shows up and refers to a long-ago post… it’s pretty obvious we’re in sock-puppet territory.
It’s no big deal to me, really. I rarely venture into the “who-is-whom” threads; in fact, I’m only in this one because the exposure “minutelady” presented today was so obvious and directed specifically toward me.
I really don’t care of “minutelady” is “HLP” in drag or “okobserver” listening to one of those voices in her head. All I know is “minutelady” is a fairly recent contributor to this forum and seems to know about the “Guns in Prison” post from months, maybe even years ago.
How’d that happen, do ya think?
“GMC70″ –
I’ve posted plenty of “substance” this morning.
If you hadn’t been late to work you might have noticed.
But you didn’t get to “work” until mid-morning.
As it turns out, it’s almost time for your lunch so we won’t hear from you until mid-afternoon.
As it turns out, there’s too much work at the Butler County Attorney’s office they’re advertising for another $38,000-a-year assistant to take up the slack of work not getting done by the staff on hand.
Isn’t there a high-priority First Degree Murder case pending in Butler County involving that stripper-porn-model-co-ed case? Aren’t you working on that? I wonder why?
Enjoy your lunch.
Try the veal.
I’ve posted plenty of “substance” this morning.- Monkeyhawk
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That “substance” is schitt.
MH, MH, MH -
STILL trying so desperately to shut me up? I can certainly understand why. You’re tired of getting your own ass handed to you, by me. Were I in your shoes, I might do same.
And BTW, you’ve offered, on this thread, exactly . . . well, NOTHING of subtance. You’ve speculated as to who minutelady is (while claiming you don’t care), and threatened (ooh, scary!!!) to trot out an old piece of pure silliness. And, of course, the continuing attempt to silence me. But (on what is admittedly a rather pointless thread) substance? Nada.
It’s quite sad, actually. You’re capable of much more than that.
So. . .
Where is the bone-dig, MonkeyHawk?
Demonstate your supior intelligence once again!
BlueJay, minutelady = Hank
totoinks, minutelady = okie granny
MonkeyHawk, minutelady = hlp
GMC70
Posted July 28, 2009 at 12:07 pm | Permalink
MH, MH, MH -
STILL trying so desperately to shut me up? I can certainly understand why. You’re tired of getting your own ass handed to you, by me.
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Just a comment. It’s really nobody’s business when a blogger is online. If GMC70 is blogging at work, that’s his and his boss’s business.
IMHO, GMC70 brings a lot to this blog; his posts are generally well thought out and written. He’s been around for a long time and has earned my respect (and sometimes, my ire).
A suggestion for some of my Lib friends…let’s just drop the subject. It’s getting old.
The only thing we know for sure is cheney will shoot an unarmed man in the face for no reason. He doesn’t need to be packin.
Even if the guy was a lawyer, it’s still wrong!
There are common sense reasons to restrict guns inside buildings where government business is carried out. It can also be easily achieved with the use of metal detactors and screenings at the pedestrian only entrance.
National parks are nothing more than places of nature (in the outdoors) reserved and protected for the people to enjoy. Big parks have numerous vehicle entrances and thousands of miles of ungarded border. It would be assinine ban guns in national parks with no plans to actually enforce the ban.
It also would be cost prohibitive and a devaluing of the national park experience to have your vehicle searched and borders fenced and secured for no apparent reason whatsoever other than to satisfy the anti-gun lobby.
But, but RFL, remember the bad guys that would do harm with a firearm ALWAYS….AlWAYS obey a ‘No-Gun’ sign or zone. Okay sarcasm off.
These nitwits that are so against allowing legal licensed carry in the national parks seem unable to grasp that CCW does NOT give permission to fire the weapon except under the legal rules of engagement to protect life and thwart lethal threat.
But then…..they are nitwits!
“I couldn’t help it Mr. Forest Ranger! That chipmunk was comin’ right for me!”
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Phantom
Posted July 28, 2009 at 12:34 pm | Permalink
Even if the guy was a lawyer, it’s still wrong!
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I’m gonna have to ponder that one for a while.
CONs–
Explain how Obama and his Congress are going to take our guns away! when Congress voted in favor of allowing legal carry in National Parks.
Doesn’t quite fit the hysterical rant, does it.
BTW, anybody got buyer’s remorse for all the overpriced guns and ammo you stocked up on before Obama made it illegal?
A fool and his money are soon parted.
BlueJay spare us your false outrage.
People have been taking guns into National Parks for years.
I believe they call it hunting.
GMC’s been around for a long time and has earned my respect (and sometimes, my ire).
A suggestion for some of my Lib friend . . .let’s just drop the subject [of who's on at work]. It’s getting old.
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Second the motion.
Even if you’re not at work, there’s always something more productive you could be doing than blogging, so we’re all sinners here.
I gotta admit that the last time I went camping in the Beartooth Primitive Area (on the Montana-Wyo state line), the guy I was with took a .357 Mag which was illegal at the time.
If we were attacked by a bear, we planned to a least make it good and mad before it mauled us to shreds.
BlueJay
Posted July 28, 2009 at 12:54 pm | Permalink
“I couldn’t help it Mr. Forest Ranger! That chipmunk was comin’ right for me!”
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Hey junior,
How ’bout you compile a running list of all fire arm related incidents in national parks over the past 5 years and continue on for the next five years?
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
If we were attacked by a bear, we planned to a least make it good and mad before it mauled us to shreds.
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If you don’t get them good and pizzed off, they take their time killing you.
“continue on for the next five years?”
Hey every other weekend dad? I plan to.
In my experience, German tourist throwing rocks at Bison, German tourist throwing rocks at alligators, and German tourist throwing rocks at moose, do more to ruin the National Park experience than do guns.
(I don’t know why it was always the Germans, maybe they have a death wish)
BlueJay
Posted July 28, 2009 at 12:54 pm | Permalink
“I couldn’t help it Mr. Forest Ranger! That chipmunk was comin’ right for me!”
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Yes those birthers are looney’s.
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ANTI
Posted July 28, 2009 at 1:49 pm | Permalink
(I don’t know why it was always the Germans, maybe they have a death wish)
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It might have something to do with all that bier they drink.
Good point, Daniel.
They should post a sign that reads:
Attention German Tourist, it is not wise to throw rocks at animals that very easily could stomp a mud hole in you ass. – Dept. of Fish and Game
Apparently the Dept. of Fish and Game should replace ‘you’ with ‘your’…Dumb asses.
Hey every other weekend dad? I plan to.
LMFAO. You always have to go personal don’t you junior? Oh well. I know that I am a dad every day. Wonder what it is that gets you so peeved? Is it that you are a deadbeat dad and can’t provide for your son?
By the way, the every other weekend remark, when was the last time your boy saw his mother?
So, about that list. What have you compiled so far?
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ANTI
Posted July 28, 2009 at 2:05 pm | Permalink
They should post a sign that reads:
Attention German Tourist, it is not wise to throw rocks at animals that very easily could stomp a mud hole in you ass. – Dept. of Fish and Game
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Nah, better to just let nature takes it’s course. Theoretically, our species will be stronger in the long run.
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ANTI
Posted July 28, 2009 at 2:08 pm | Permalink
Apparently the Dept. of Fish and Game should replace ‘you’ with ‘your’…Dumb asses.
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Damned government agencies screw up everything they do.
I wonder if Barney Fwank would be for reveal and tarry in Congress – no doubt.
There is a BIG difference people are missing. The Capital is a sterile environment. You have to pass through security and metal detectors to enter it. Therefore nobody is armed. Nobody has advocated that people be allowed to carry guns in sterile areas- such as on a plane or in a courthouse. National parks are NOT sterile. Nobody passes through security to get into them.
monkey…….someday i hope you grow up………remember you wanted to teach kindergardeners about gun safety in the sandlot….change your mind?f
Can we put the “U.S. guns/Mexican drug violence” myth to bed yet? Lefties? Biggott? “Boy”?
The myth that legal guns sales in the United States are responsible for Mexican drug cartel violence took another serious blow last week when an ATF official testified in Congress that only eight percent of weapons recovered in Mexico came through licensed U.S. gun dealers.
This figure is far lower than the 90 percent claim made previously as an appeal to reinstate ineffective gun laws that expired in 2004. The claim — still active among the less informed or serially dishonest — officially became myth during congressional testimony last week when Bill McMahon, deputy assistant director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, revealed the eight percent figure, how it was calculated, and where the 90 percent myth arose from.
Of the 100,000 weapons recovered by Mexican authorities, only 18,000 were determined to have been manufactured, sold, or imported from the United States, and of those 18,000, just 7,900 came from sales by licensed gun dealers.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/testimony-on-assault-weapons-guts-obamas-90-percent-lie/
(if you read the story, and are paying attention and using your brain, you might note that they do not say how many of the 18,000 went through the State Department to the Mexican military and/or Police departments.)
So. . .in which public places should it be okay to pack heat, and which would not be okay? And by what criteria?
That’s the nagging issue that never gets addressed.