It’s silly to claim Palin has no chance to win the nomination or the presidency. The fact is, despite a rough campaign in 2008, Palin has been (for what it’s worth at this stage) a co-front-runner in polls of GOP primary voters for 2012, along with Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee. In a recent Pew survey, she had the strongest favorable-unfavorable numbers of the likely candidates among Republicans.
She has fervent supporters, which would presumably help her in primaries and caucuses. Among the general public, she has a not-great but not-unmanageable 45-44 favorability rating.
Will her poll numbers fall because she has opted to step down early from the Alaska governorship? Perhaps. But the short-term effect of that decision will soon be swamped by judgments people make as they see her out and about, speaking and opining on the issues of the day.
— William Kristol, Washinton Post
What can you say about a public official who ridicules those who would take the “quitter’s way out” — as she faces reporters to announce that she’s quitting? A governor who claims that “the worthless, easy path” would be to serve out the remaining 18 months of her term? An ambitious politician who says that “life is too short” to worry about, you know, boring things such as responsibility or duty?
You can say that all of us who ever took Sarah Palin seriously — or pretended to take her seriously — should be deeply ashamed. And you can say that John McCain should publicly apologize for putting the nation he loves at risk by choosing Palin as his running mate.
The reasons she gave for stepping down are not just contrived or implausible but literally nonsensical. But I’m stating the obvious. The thing is, Palin’s unsuitability for high public office has been obvious all along. Tina Fey got it right; the rest of us were far too reluctant to state plainly that the emperor, or empress, has no clothes.
— Eugene Robinson, Washington Post
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The day that Sarah Palin was virtually grabbed from nowhere as his vice presidential candidate, Palin’s life was changed forever. Being a state governor is a big job with lots of duties that must be done. Being a national spokesman for her conservative agenda is also a full time job. I doubt if anyone knows if Ms. Palin will run for President in the next election.
But Sarah Palin does have the opportunity to speak nationally on very important issues facing this country. And don’t forget, being a national speaker pays well, very well.
Sarah Palin doesn’t have to give any excuses or apologies for leaving the Alaska governor’s office early. She has obviously “moved on,” as they say, leaving her critics in her dust.
She certainly has a future in the book business, the talk show business, the syndicated column business, and these can pay very, very well, especially compared to the salary an Alaska governor can make. She has no short-term future in national electoral politics, though she could certainly run for the Senate in Alaska if she wanted to build a Washington resume for the long-term future. She was savaged by the national Obama media, which saw its role during the campaign as getting him elected at all costs and sees its role now as worshiping his every move. Her pick by McCain was a gamble that may well have worked if the economy hadn’t tanked weeks before the election.
Wow! The lady steps down and the libs cannot get enough of her.
Such power.
Wow! The beyatch quits a job she was elected to by the people of Alaska, giving some convoluted, whacked out reasons, thus slapping everyone who voted for her in the face, and the right wing wackos think she’s a goddess. Why am I not surprised. Run, Sarah, Run!
It also may be advise from her attorneys, that as a public official, she couldn’t effectively counter-sue.
With more than five hundred thousand dollars in legal fees, the next yahoo that cause her or her family a name or utters a false rumor may find themselves jap-slapped, sued for big bucks and generally owned.
While twiddling away our lives, some of us have a tendancy to write stupid things.
Response anticipated: Well talk about stupid things! You ain’t the won to have no say so.
egular
Posted July 11, 2009 at 7:46 am | Permalink
It also may be advise from her attorneys, that as a public official, she couldn’t effectively counter-sue.
With more than five hundred thousand dollars in legal fees, the next yahoo that cause her or her family a name or utters a false rumor may find themselves jap-slapped, sued for big bucks and generally owned.
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Now that’s a load if I ever read one. The last thing she worries about is money. The state of Alaska covers any ethics complaints brought against her via an ethics department, whose job it is is to investigate any ethics complaints. No money there: already paid for via state budget. Lawyers paid for via the department of law, which is already paid via state budget: no money lost there. The only circumstances that would cause the state budget to be exceeded is if either department worked overtime or weekends, which would trigger overtime payments, None have been generated.
http://www.themudflats.net/2009/07/10/palins-millllions-take-2-a-closer-look/
So what complaints have been brought against her that requires her to spend own money? Feel free to be specific.
Exclusive interview with the Moose-Dresser’s speechwriter (now unemploye) –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_IuhYsauyg&feature=player_embedded
Just type in 500000 legal debt and Palin, Walker…
It’s all over the Web in news stories.
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Regular
Posted July 11, 2009 at 8:22 am | Permalink
Just type in 500000 legal debt and Palin, Walker…
It’s all over the Web in news stories.
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I did, and got back bs. Any ethics complaints filed against her are covered by the state of Alaska, not her. If she’ using her own money to counter these complaints, she does so out of her own stupidity. I suggest you read the mudflats blog, as they are in position to know what is going on in Alaska, and give the answer to your nonsense.
As I said, be specific, if possible.
Yawn…
So Walker, you are making up your own version of the truth and news now just because you don’t like it?
Did you know that Clinton was millions in debt with legal fees while he was President?
You must look out the window and say it raining, when it is, just because you aren’t getting wet.
say it raining = say it isn’t raining
I think I’ll look to Kristol on this topic, rather than a socialist liberal like Robinson.
“Regular” provides –
“Did you know that Clinton was millions in debt with legal fees while he was President?”
That was for the Arkansas Project’s civil suit against Clinton.
Remember, the whole controversy about whether a sitting president could be brought to civil court? Remember Paula Jones? It was in the papers.
All of the Moose-Dresser’s legal fees center around ethics violations connected to her (aborted) tenure in public office.
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Regular
Posted July 11, 2009 at 8:49 am | Permalink
So Walker, you are making up your own version of the truth and news now just because you don’t like it?
Did you know that Clinton was millions in debt with legal fees while he was President?
You must look out the window and say it raining, when it is, just because you aren’t getting wet.
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So, what you’re saying is you have nothing specific, and Clinton did it. Why am I not surprised. You’re a true credit to your party.
Oh please yes let her have a future. She is the epitome of everything that is wrong with the GOP.
Walker tries:
So, what you’re saying is you have nothing specific, and Clinton did it. Why am I not surprised. You’re a true credit to your party.
No, and try to listen closely Walker. I pointed out Clinton to show you that politicians while in office can and do build up legal fees.
You point me to some blog, an unofficial news source as your reliable source.
I’m glad you’re not an attorney, you’d be using National Enquirer clippings on proof of space aliens to prove that extraterrestrials are real.
lil’ Sarah didn’t save Alaska any money.
The funds to investigate her ethics violations had already been allocated.
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Regular
Posted July 11, 2009 at 9:03 am | Permalink
Walker tries:
So, what you’re saying is you have nothing specific, and Clinton did it. Why am I not surprised. You’re a true credit to your party.
No, and try to listen closely Walker. I pointed out Clinton to show you that politicians while in office can and do build up legal fees.
You point me to some blog, an unofficial news source as your reliable source.
I’m glad you’re not an attorney, you’d be using National Enquirer clippings on proof of space aliens to prove that extraterrestrials are real.
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So far, you’ve brought up Clinton, the national Enquirer, extraterrestrials, and rainy days, but nothing specific to back up your claim Palin is spending $$$$$$ of her own money to counter suits or whatever.
So, how about you listening carefully: Point out the specific cases Palin has had to spend her own money on to the tune of over half a mil to counter claims against her. I know it’s difficult for you to be specific on anything not okayed by right wing wackos, but at least attempt it.
It’s not known if Palin will run for president or if Republicans will vote for her if she does. To the non-Republican, Palin looks unfit for high office, but Republicans see the world differently. For instance, Republicans see Brownback as a good choice for senator or governor. Kansas Republicans picked Huckabee over McCain, and Tiahrt appears to be giving Moran all he wants and more. This suggests that staking out a highly partisan and consistently ultra conservative position in the primaries is the best way to go for a Republican candidate.
If Palin does run, however, it’s clear that she will have to overcome considerable opposition from people in her own party, and conservative columnists such as George Will, Kathleen Parker and David Brooks have not been overly impressed with her so far. She will likely have to “study up” on the issues to gain support from others in the Republican press, and it’s an open question if Palin even understands that she needs to “study up.” In any case, if she turns up at the debates in 2011 and starts talking gibberish, insiders in the party will work against her because they will see her as risky and they don’t want to lose the general election.
at the rate bho is bankrupting this country, I would be willing to bet that ANYONE the republicans run in 2012 will win.
Palin? I don’t know…but anyone the GOP nominates will be a good bet to replace ‘the one’ who is proving that his economic policy is simplistic and dangerous.
In a sense the undermining the media can do to Sarah Palin is to let her in front of a camera and a mike.
Last night some one made the observation of Palin, “she is like an ice sculpture… the more she is exposed to the elements the faster she seem to melt down.”. That seem to be the case as left to her own devices she looses her thoughts and substances.
It is frightening that she could be a face and voice for a segment of the society. That does not speak well of society. During the campaign she repeated canned talking points and never seems to have an inspired thought. When she does express her inspired thoughts, they are like a bout of the runs. loosely connected and often messy.
Said to be the voice of the Religious Right and speaking with the voice of God. Though Obama spoke more of religious faith and God then Palin ever did? Which bring a question to my mind. Just where do the Social Conservatives get this impression that Sarah Palin is anointed by God? Her church affiliation is Evangelical but she has not publicly espoused a great deal that would have been associated as Evangelical.
She came out as totally against abortion for any reason including saving the life of the mother.
That in it’s self is not solely held by religious people.
Its a catch 22 for Palin, it would be best for her if the media would simply ignore her but then how long would she go without causing attention to be paid? She can write her book and make her appearances and flow through society only being paid attention to by those who for reasons of their own see her as worth a read or a listening to. But other then for those who see her as something special.
she is only valuable to the outside as a comic relief.
May God have mercy on the party if she would be the next nominee for the GOP candidate for President.
It would be a true sign that the party is having the future of the last Dinosaur.
Palin hasn’t paid out one red cent of her own in lawyer’s fees. Although frankly I wouldn’t be surprised if she did not know that.
Further, if she did know that nobody in her family has shelled out one red cent, I wouldn’t doubt that she’s incapable of communicating it.
You gotta love Kristol’s GOP. On the one hand they savage the mainstream media for its ability to shape public opinion with what they judge to be distortions (if not outright lies), yet here they are falling for the same kind of BS they scorn.
And here they are working like bees to hoist Palin on a pedestal, yet she’s failing them because she can’t communicate for sh*t.
Glory days for Democrats, no doubt about it.
In fact, what’s likely behind Palin’s popularity is that she wields a (figurative) tuning fork. She whacks it in front of a microphone, and a number of Americans start buzzing on her frequency.
Lord knows they can’t be responding to what she actually says, because what she says is complete nonsense 98% of the time.
Whenever you learn how to discuss the points Walker, let me know.
Your diversion into irrelevant minutia is indicative of an unorganized mind.
“And you can say that John McCain should publicly apologize for putting the nation he loves at risk by choosing Palin as his running mate.”
If you go back and look, I thought her nomination was some sort of joke or stunt.
I have been heartened but also chilled to learn since that there are no small number of people in this country who really are just that crazy/evil that they really would want a President Palin. Who could have imagined that they could go further and lower than when they forced george bush on us?
Here you go Walker:
If you want to know the specific cases, why don’t you write Attorney Van Flein and ask him. I doubt you will get an answer as it is none of your business.
Continue to deny Walker, the facts are against you, stop flailing.
Quote from the Anchorage Daily News
The debt is owed to the Alaska law firm Clapp, Peterson, Van Flein, Tiemessen & Thorsness, according to her financial disclosure.
The disclosure said only that she owed “hundreds of thousands of dollars.” On Friday in the written statement, attorney Thomas Van Flein wouldn’t give a precise number but said it was “a substantial debt.” Palin said she didn’t have an exact figure yet but “the debt is over a half a million dollars.”
Anchorage Daily News
http://www.adn.com/palin/story/731157.html
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So Walker, what are you going to do now that your arm flailing blog source has failed to support your argument that the State of Alaska paid all the legal fees?
I find it somewhat amusing that the liberals need to twist and lie when talking about Governor Palin. It’s indicative of her political power.
She is very plain spoken. Read her resignation speech. It was given without notes. Nothing confusing or ambiguous at all about it.
Now, gentle Kool-Aid drinkers pick any of President Obama’s speeches, carefully scripted and guided by the teleprompters, and tell me what they said. Furthermore, everything President Obama says has a shelf life of less than a week.
Does she have a future? You betcha! Her positives are polling higher at the same rate Obama’s are going lower!
August will be an interesting month.
As amusing as it is, it would be a mistake not to take Sarah Palin and the ….deranged folks who would support her just a little bit serious. They ARE dangerous even if they are a lunatic fringe. They should be sought out and quickly squashed just as Palin was.
Regular
Posted July 11, 2009 at 9:47 am | Permalink
Here you go Walker:
If you want to know the specific cases, why don’t you write Attorney Van Flein and ask him. I doubt you will get an answer as it is none of your business.
Continue to deny Walker, the facts are against you, stop flailing.
Quote from the Anchorage Daily News
The debt is owed to the Alaska law firm Clapp, Peterson, Van Flein, Tiemessen & Thorsness, according to her financial disclosure.
The disclosure said only that she owed “hundreds of thousands of dollars.” On Friday in the written statement, attorney Thomas Van Flein wouldn’t give a precise number but said it was “a substantial debt.” Palin said she didn’t have an exact figure yet but “the debt is over a half a million dollars.”
Anchorage Daily News
http://www.adn.com/palin/story/731157.html
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“I must defend against these baseless ethics accusations out of my own pocket as the use of public monies to do so could itself violate state law,” Palin wrote.
She didn’t say it DOES violate state law, but COULD.
That tells me she’s opting to pay lawyer’s fees. And will her choice be paid by her or by others?
ANS: others will pay this, not the Palin family.
“Obviously we cannot afford to personally pay these bills — and really no future governor should feel the sense of financial vulnerability at the hands of those with a political vendetta bent on personal destruction,” Palin wrote. “Some have suggested a legal fund to pay these bills. We’ll have to pursue that.”
I believe Palin’s PAC raked in >$400,000 in its first month of existence. I’m sure getting others to pay legal fees incurred to protect Sarah Palin’s political reputation won’t be a problem.
Again, the Palin family isn’t out one red cent for legal fees.
“BlueJay” –
You might take “minutelady’s” advice and “Read her resignation speech…. Nothing confusing or ambiguous at all about it.”
“I’m a fighter, not a quitter,” said the Moose-Dresser, “that’s why I’m quitting!”
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Regular
Posted July 11, 2009 at 9:47 am | Permalink
Here you go Walker:
If you want to know the specific cases, why don’t you write Attorney Van Flein and ask him. I doubt you will get an answer as it is none of your business.
Continue to deny Walker, the facts are against you, stop flailing.
Quote from the Anchorage Daily News
The debt is owed to the Alaska law firm Clapp, Peterson, Van Flein, Tiemessen & Thorsness, according to her financial disclosure.
The disclosure said only that she owed “hundreds of thousands of dollars.” On Friday in the written statement, attorney Thomas Van Flein wouldn’t give a precise number but said it was “a substantial debt.” Palin said she didn’t have an exact figure yet but “the debt is over a half a million dollars.”
Anchorage Daily News
http://www.adn.com/palin/story/731157.html
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So Walker, what are you going to do now that your arm flailing blog source has failed to support your argument that the State of Alaska paid all the legal fees?
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Are the legal fees for law suits, or for fees generated for things like: Attempting to sue people for photoshopping pictures, writing legal opinions on Letterman’s stupid joke. She brought those on herself. Real politicians laugh that crap off. I’ve still seen nothing to indicate her spending her own money to counter claims against her.
No “arm flailing” here, just pointing out facts you can’t seem to handle. The fact is you can’t point to specific cases of her spending her on money countering claims against her because they aren’t there. As with the $1.9 million of “wasted” Alaskan money, she’s lying . . . again. The woman is as flaky a politician as has ever entered the public arena. You got nothing.
Palin said she didn’t think it would be fair to “sacrifice public monies to defend against something that was so politically charged.” Van Flein called the investigation a “political probe” and an “abuse of state money.”
Asked for response, state Sen. Hollis French, an Anchorage Democrat who directed the investigation, wrote in an e-mail that the state’s bipartisan Legislative Council approved the investigation 12-0, with eight Republicans voting for it. The panel agreed to spend up to $100,000, mainly for an independent counsel, but spent $75,000.
“The investigation came in 25% under budget, which is clear evidence that the investigator was restrained and judicious in the work that he performed,” French wrote Friday evening.
http://www.adn.com/palin/story/731157.html
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lol
It’s hardly a “political probe” if it’s bipartisan. And if it’s bipartisan it’s hardly an “an abuse of state money.”
Good grief, this woman is an idiot.
The libs fear of Palin is almost laughable if it hadn’t been so personally hurtful to her and her family. Even the press is now saying their goal was her destruction. Well they almost succeeded. But she is made of sterner stuff than they suspected.
She would never have been my pick for prz in 2012 but I am looking seriously at that decision now. She couldn’t possibly do a worse job than the community organizer we have now.
“The funds to investigate her ethics violations had already been allocated.”
This quote from Jr is an example of the ignorance on the libs side. Allocated – spent – two very different words. By stepping down she has saved the state the money it would have spent if forced to ’spend’ these ‘allocated’ funds.
The reporters weren’t happy just going after the candidate they also went after her husband and children also. Legal fees to defend these accusations aren’t paid for by the state.
I will just say you guys are among the lowest of the low for going after this family. Let them alone. If in the future she runs in a national election then sharpen your claws and go after her – not her family – conservatives children deserve the same privacy as that of the liberal candidates.
I think Gov. Palin’s attorney meant it’s a “personal” probe, as in the Alaska legislature is out to get the governor personally (hush).
At least he communicates clearly (that he’s a lawyer if nothing else).
If you ask me, Sarah Palin has OPTED to pay this law firm to insure her future political viability. After all, if nothing else these lawyers can communicate clearly, a skill the governor abjectly lacks.
So Pedant, are you an attorney as well? Do you know the laws for the State of Alaska and know whether or not that what Palin stated is nothing but the truth?
Why are you and Walker trying to make mud out of tree bark?
It’s an useless argument both you and Walker are making. It’s not only irrelevant, it has no purpose other than being agitators.
Which, by the way, is one of the main issues why Palin needs a private law firm to defend her, because of baseless accusations from ‘Barbershop Lawyers’ like yourself and Walker.
okobserver
Posted July 11, 2009 at 10:09 am | Permalink
The libs fear of Palin is almost laughable if it hadn’t been so personally hurtful to her and her family. Even the press is now saying their goal was her destruction.
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What’s your source? What organ of the press has said that its “goal was her destruction?”
Walker,
If you want to know the specific cases and expenses, why don’t you get on your investigating horse and ride on up to Alaska?
You sure are making a lot of assumptions based on something, I don’t know what, but it is pointless and meaningless.
Like I said, whenever you learn to argue from facts in evidence, let me know. All you have is speculative argument at best.
Regular
Posted July 11, 2009 at 10:13 am | Permalink
Which, by the way, is one of the main issues why Palin needs a private law firm to defend her, because of baseless accusations from ‘Barbershop Lawyers’
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the state’s bipartisan Legislative Council approved the investigation 12-0, with eight Republicans voting for it.
Where’s your evidence that these bipartisan accusations are baseless, Mr. Lawyer?
“okobserver” chimes –
“Allocated – spent – two very different words.”
Keep that in mind next dime the stimulus program comes up in coversation.
okobserver
Posted July 11, 2009 at 10:09 am | Permalink
By stepping down she has saved the state the money it would have spent if forced to ’spend’ these ‘allocated’ funds.
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In other words, she quit.
You know Pedant I will find that. It was a reporter that I listened to last night. Can’t remember the channel. I was surffing. I will find it though and you will be the first to know.
I look forward to telling the libs here to take a long hike. Find another victim. You guys are so pathetic and it is attacks like this that are pushing her numbers up with conservatives.
Keep it up. She will be very useful in the 2010 campaigns.
No.
All those attorneys for Alaska’s Department of Law are on staff, pulling down regular salaries that’ll be paid whether or not they vigorously defend the Moose-Dresser’s ethical problems or not.
Sort of how “GMC70″ gets paid his government salary for hours on end of posting to WE Blog.
Pedant – re: 10:18 a.m.
Where’s your evidence that these bipartisan accusations are baseless, Mr. Lawyer?
There is no evidence as none of the baseless charges have been proved.
Name the ethics charges against Palin that have panned out in either Court, State Legislature or via special committee.
I’ll wait.
okobserver
Posted July 11, 2009 at 10:22 am | Permalink
You know Pedant I will find that. It was a reporter that I listened to last night. Can’t remember the channel. I was surffing. I will find it though and you will be the first to know.
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uh huh
You betcha.
Yet another personal attack on another Blogger by Monkeyhawk at 10:23 a.m.
Regular
Posted July 11, 2009 at 10:23 am | Permalink
There is no evidence as none of the baseless charges have been proved.
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Yet.
Once again:
he state’s bipartisan Legislative Council approved the investigation 12-0, with eight Republicans voting for it.
In a Republic dominated legislature, when 8 Republics in a committe of 12 approve an investigation, it ain’t baseless.
It ain’t proven (yet), granted. But it is hardly baseless.
And if it’s a political witchhunt, it’s a bipartisan one. Why does the Alaska GOP stand behind this investigation?
“Regular” –
You’re turning into a real superhero defending the honor of your CON-federates this morning!
Do you wear a cape and tights?
Do you really want to defend a gold-bricking government lawyer cyber-surfing for hours on end on the taxpayers’ dime?
Go for it!
Monkeyhawk
Posted July 11, 2009 at 10:18 am | Permalink
“okobserver” chimes –
“Allocated – spent – two very different words.”
Keep that in mind next dime the stimulus program comes up in coversation.
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Yes monkey lets discuss that in relation to the stimulus. The money was allocated for the ’shovel ready’ jobs the prez said were out there. Unfortunately for the hundreds of thousands unemployed now – that allocated money was never spent as you and Chas bring up daily as if this is a good thing.
If it was stimulus, by keeping it, what exactly are you stimulating?
Good point you just made. Thanks
okobserver
Posted July 11, 2009 at 10:22 am | Permalink
Find another victim.
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Again, I don’t see how the GOP can square it’s anti-victimhood rhetoric with Palin apologists.
Yes, I can see it now. 2010, the year Sarah of Arc comes down from the Aleutians to tell the good voters of Colorado that voting for the Democrat is as good as making a mockery of the word victim, all the while making a mockery of the word victim.
Yes, 2010 could get VERY interesting.
lol
Just for you pedant – I always try to keep my word because that is important to me.
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Reporter: ‘We Took Sides, Straight and Simple’ Against Palin
By Tim Graham (Bio | Archive)
July 10, 2009 – 07:56 ET
On AOL Politics Daily, long-time White House reporter Carl Cannon bluntly declared that the political press gave Sarah Palin a raw deal in the 2008 campaign, and seriously failed to scrutinize Joe Biden, especially his fact-mangling and odd statements in the vice presidential debate. Cannon summed up:
In the 2008 election, we took sides, straight and simple, particularly with regard to the vice presidential race. I don’t know that we played a decisive role in that campaign, and I’m not saying the better side lost. What I am saying is that we simply didn’t hold Joe Biden to the same standard as Sarah Palin, and for me, the real loser in this sordid tale is my chosen profession.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2009/07/10/reporter-we-took-sides-straight-simple-against-palin
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I won’t wait for the apology. I know the dimocrats never see the error of their ways and personal name calling is just part of their method to deflect, deflect, deflect….
The breakdown: http://media.adn.com/smedia/2009/07/09/12/palin-cost-breakdown.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf
Yes, 2010 could get VERY interesting.
lol
Pedant my thoughts exactly. Better put the shovel down. This was only one reporter making a statement. I have heard others say that journalism died a painful death in their rush to put a community orgainzer in the White House. Buyers remorse is setting in.
Very interesting – yes that sounds right.
What it means: http://www.themudflats.net/2009/07/10/palins-millllions-take-2-a-closer-look/
okobserver
Posted July 11, 2009 at 10:35 am | Permalink
Just for you pedant – I always try to keep my word because that is important to me.
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Reporter: ‘We Took Sides, Straight and Simple’ Against Palin
By Tim Graham (Bio | Archive)
July 10, 2009 – 07:56 ET
On AOL Politics Daily, long-time White House reporter Carl Cannon bluntly declared that the political press gave Sarah Palin a raw deal in the 2008 campaign, and seriously failed to scrutinize Joe Biden, especially his fact-mangling and odd statements in the vice presidential debate. Cannon summed up:
In the 2008 election, we took sides, straight and simple, particularly with regard to the vice presidential race. I don’t know that we played a decisive role in that campaign, and I’m not saying the better side lost. What I am saying is that we simply didn’t hold Joe Biden to the same standard as Sarah Palin, and for me, the real loser in this sordid tale is my chosen profession.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2009/07/10/reporter-we-took-sides-straight-simple-against-palin
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I won’t wait for the apology. I know the dimocrats never see the error of their ways and personal name calling is just part of their method to deflect, deflect, deflect….
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You wrote: Even the press is now saying their goal was her destruction.
You are now backpedaling and saying that they didn’t treat Palin by the same standard they treated Biden.
That is not the same thing as saying the press had a goal of destructing Gov. Palin.
It is, however, typical of the kinds of distortions you regularly make. So no, there is no apology in your future. Not because I’m not big enough, but because you don’t deserve one. And you don’t deserve one because you haven’t done one of the following.
1) Show us evidence that the press had a goal of Gov. Palin’s destruction. This will earn you an apology.
–or–
2) Correcting your statement.
JM I guess I am missing the point of your post. Are you saying that the report showing legal fees for the state somehow disproves the amount of personal legal fees owed by Palin?
I’d forgotten, “okobserver” –
That personal definition of “shovel-ready” you shared with us the other day.
The stimulus package was passed in March. Since then, Caterpillar has rescinded lay-offs so they can build more bulldozers, back-hoes, earth-movers, and road-graters. The projects were ready but the “shovels” were not.
Nevertheless, the AAA announced the other day on average, out of every 100 miles of highways in America this summer, one mile is undergoing construction and/or refurbishment. And only about 10% of infrastructure funds have been actually (your word, remember?) “spent.”
You’re talking out both sides of your ass on this one, “okobserver,” and you know it.
If anyone says they still support her for President….well that says a lot about you. You don’t care about really making this nation better.
Pedant I made this statement and I stand by it;
“Even the press is now saying their goal was her destruction.”
When you go after one candidate and don’t go after her bumbling opponent you had better believe the intent in destruction. Don’t use weasel words Pedant. I thought you were better than that.
The truth is out there. Are you and other libs going to keep denying what happened?
okobserver
Posted July 11, 2009 at 10:48 am | Permalink
Pedant I made this statement and I stand by it;
“Even the press is now saying their goal was her destruction.”
When you go after one candidate and don’t go after her bumbling opponent you had better believe the intent in destruction. Don’t use weasel words Pedant. I thought you were better than that.
The truth is out there. Are you and other libs going to keep denying what happened?
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As usual, okobserver adds two and two and comes up with eleven.
I’ll repeat my 10:14am
What’s your source? What organ of the press has said that its “goal was her destruction?”
Well?
The cons blame the mainstream media but fail to remember that they have the lead on character assassination for decades. Don’t cry to me because we beat you at your own game. The media simply reports it.
MH I handed you your head so many times the other day that I won’t repeat that discourse today. Just go back and re-read it. The truth is there.
P.S. Those 20,000 that Cat laid off didn’t know they had been called back. Can you back up your story above.
Pmom I’m not saying it doesn’t happen on both sides. I am saying she was the object of hate from day one. Joe Biden was and is a buffoon that can’t go out in public without making a stupid statement and yet the libs continue to pick on Palin. Why not just let her and her family alone?
Her children have been through more than anyone should ever endure.
On the other hand, Hillary is looking darn good right now.
“1) Show us evidence that the press had a goal of Gov. Palin’s destruction. This will earn you an apology.
–or–
“2) Correcting your statement.”
Not to mention, her source is laughable to anyone who knows anything about newbusters much less took the time to read Timn Graham’s bio (this guy is not anything but a right wing media critic whose statements about the media’s treatment of Palin is easily predictable by his current profession, attacking the non-right wing news media). Using the word “we” in his criticism of the news media does not make his statements in any way credible.
If you ask me, Gov. Palin’s political future depends directly on her own communication skills. If she really has something to say, then by all means let her say it (because I haven’t heard it yet).
However, I believe she attended 6 institutions of higher education and emerge with one BA. That BA was in communications.
Go figure.
okobserver posted July 11, 2009 at 10:55 am
I am saying she was the object of hate from day one.
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Actually, she was the object of laughter.
“What I am saying is that we simply didn’t hold Joe Biden to the same standard as Sarah Palin, and for me, the real loser in this sordid tale is my chosen profession.”
Pedant I think this one part of his statement says it better than I ever could. And since the argument has now started to be about me because the libs can’t disprove what I have shown them – I will ‘quit’ posting until something that is more meaningful comes along.
Have a great day!
Palin was target from day one because she deserved to be. If you can’t answer a question and bs your way through, or just be honest that you don’t know the answer, SHUT UP. It really isn’t that hard.
For a woman to get up on the national scene and be so horribly unprepared, unqualified is a slap in the face to the women who have done the legwork to get up. Sarah wasn’t qualified to be Governor, much less anything higher. The fact that you people won’t admit it bothers me greatly.
Pmom speaking of Hillary where in the world are they hiding her? I haven’t seen hide nor hair of her in ages.
Unfortunately for Sarah Palin, her political future more realistically depends on advances in medical care. Specifically, brain transplant technology.
On the other hand, her future in television is probably a bright one.
For example, I think Gov. Palin would excel as a sideline wench on NFL broadcasts. That’s probably her one shining area, in fact.
Pedant
Posted July 11, 2009 at 10:30 am | Permalink
Regular
Posted July 11, 2009 at 10:23 am | Permalink
There is no evidence as none of the baseless charges have been proved.
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Yet.
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Ahahahaha!
Yep, like Walker you are trying to make soup from stones.
A right wing news person says the media was unfair? Say it isn’t so, Joe.
“okobserver” claims –
“Even the press is now saying their goal was her destruction.”
Yeah!
I think I remember that!
All of “the press” got together (like that “We Are the World” video) and sang in unison:
“Our goal was her destruction.”
C’mon. Get real.
Even you, “okobserver” know which newspapers you read, which web sites you visit, which magazines you subscribe to. That’s not not the press setting out on an all-fronts mission of destruction… unless the Moose-Dresser doesn’t read.
And even if it were a media witch-hunt (which it wasn’t), she’d been anointed with oil against witches in the Wasilla Second Reorganized Temple of the Talkin’-In-Tongues and Slam-Dunkin’ Satan Ass. of God Church and Discount House of Worship, wasn’t she?
Maybe it didn’t take.
okobserver
Posted July 11, 2009 at 10:58 am | Permalink
“What I am saying is that we simply didn’t hold Joe Biden to the same standard as Sarah Palin, and for me, the real loser in this sordid tale is my chosen profession.”
Pedant I think this one part of his statement says it better than I ever could. And since the argument has now started to be about me because the libs can’t disprove what I have shown them – I will ‘quit’ posting until something that is more meaningful comes along.
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Translation: until somebody else agrees that two plus two equals eleven, I quit.
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okobserver
Posted July 11, 2009 at 10:46 am | Permalink
JM I guess I am missing the point of your post. Are you saying that the report showing legal fees for the state somehow disproves the amount of personal legal fees owed by Palin?
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I had assumed the part about Palin’s legal fees to be concluded, with reg believing his side and me believing mine. Why, do you have something else to add to that part of the discussion?
As for the Alaska expenditures, the was different altogether, and not connected.
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Regular
Posted July 11, 2009 at 11:01 am | Permalink
Yep, like Walker you are trying to make soup from stones.
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Good one, reg. That sure adds to any discussion, doesn’t it? Why do I expect nothing more from you? Because from your posts, you reinforce it every time.
I would bet a house that Agnatha has nailed the problem here. To wit, Carl Cannon is a partisan journalist.
And even he didn’t write that “the press is out to destroy” Palin like okobserver asserts.
lol
And for good reason. Like all good partisans, he knows the best he can do is two plus two equals five. Or three, depending on which way the wind blows.
“I’m a fighter, not a quitter,” said the Moose-Dresser, “that’s why I’m quitting!”
But of course, the quotes above do not appear in the written text of her speech. ‘Quitter’ only appears in her speech once. ‘Fighter’ not at all. From her speech:
“Life is too short to compromise time and resources… it may be tempting and more comfortable to just keep your head down, plod along, and appease those who demand: “Sit down and shut up”, but that’s the worthless, easy path; that’s a quitter’s way out. And a problem in our country today is apathy. It would be apathetic to just hunker down and “go with the flow”.”
So, the quotes by our good friend MonkeyHawk are not even spins. They’re not even paraphrases. They are merely lies.
Libs are running scared.
Sorry, “minutelady” –
I thought she didn’t use a written text.
Still, I may have mixed up the “passing the ball” and “only dead fish go with the flow” speech with her many hip-wader interviews a couple days later.
Consider me chastened.
Walker’s blog source, TheMudFlats is aka AKMuckraker, a regular poster on the Huffington blog. There goes his credibility – on blogger feeding another blog – creating artificial news – it’s the Lib way ya know.
minutelady
Posted July 11, 2009 at 11:12 am | Permalink
Libs are running scared.
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I don’t think so. Or, let’s say this. “Libs are running scared” has as much as much validity as, but no more than, this statement, “Cons are running scared.” And believe me, if Palin is the Republic nominee for POTUS in 2012 then it would mean the GOP is running scared.
Another observation. Sarah Palin would be foolish to establish a PAC dedicated to spending on a presidential campaign. Why? Because as long as she can’t use those funds for anything else (legal defense, Congressional candidates, etc.), I for one would contribute.
Why? Because Sarah Palin will tear the GOP in two. One part Palin supporters, the other part the kind of rational voters the Democrats — or a third party — would covet.
Believe it or not, I am not out for the destruction of the GOP. I am, however, in favor of a rational GOP. Unfortunately for the GOP, I am indifferent to whether that comes about via an internal struggle orvia an external force like Sarah Palin.
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Regular
Posted July 11, 2009 at 11:22 am | Permalink
Walker’s blog source, TheMudFlats is aka AKMuckraker, a regular poster on the Huffington blog. There goes his credibility – on blogger feeding another blog – creating artificial news – it’s the Lib way ya know.
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If reg actually took the time to read mudflats, he would find all their material is well documented. In fact they point to Alaska Daily News, the same source you pointed to, many times. So, if it’s good for the goose, I guess it should be good for the gander, huh? But, shucks, they’re a mainly progressive blog, so that automatically demands your derision, truth be da*ned.
The ‘jawless fish’ tries to be credible by attacking the credibility of someone else.
Walker,
I read mudflats and I don’t need an interpreter for the Alaskan Daily News newspaper. I read and understand English quite well.
The best and should be final word was in the opinion line this a.m. by the person who gave per props…”but when America needed a collective laugh, she was there for us.”
Something to said for folk wisdom.
Dennis
Apology accepted, MonkeyHawk.
If I remember correctly I believe I said her speach was made without ‘notes’. Anyway, she gave her speech extemporaneously. That is, she didn’t have notes available that she referred to while giving her speech. Nor did she have a written text or teleprompters handy.
However, with all the wonderful modern day recording devices it is quite easy to come up with a ‘written text’ after the fact.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/2009/07/full-text-of-palins-resignation-speech.php
Feel free to clickity click on the link for the written text.
I would recommend reading the written text of any speech by President Obama in the last few months then make an honest determination of which one is the better speaker. He’s incomprehensible and disingenuous with the teleprompter and like a deer cought in headlights without it.
http://www.adn.com/palin/story/858523.html
(Most of it is a per-hour accounting) of the time state employees, such as state attorneys, have spent working on public records requests, lawsuits, ethics complaints, and issues surrounding the Legislature’s ”Troopergate” investigation last summer of Palin.
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Points to, reg, points to. The same source you pointed to.
God, why do I waste my time here.
JM do you think a state trooper who tases a 11 year old child should keep his position or be fired on the spot?
Anyone who compares Obama’s speeches and Palins, and determines that Palin is the better speaker…probably voted for the worst president ever.
God really, why are people so ignorant? Let me tell you how ridiculous you Palin supporters look. You know those televangelists who ‘heal’ with the prayer cloth, or holy water, or by laying their hands on people…yes, you really do look and sound that damn stupid.
Here you go Walker, I read the article carefully, evidently you did not.
“I’ve never seen anything like this before. It’s unprecedented,” said Linda Perez, who handles the requests as Palin’s administrative director and has been in state government since the Sheffield administration in the 1980s.
She said the Palin administration in its two and a half years has received 238 public records requests — 189 of them coming since McCain chose her as his running mate last August. The previous governor, Frank Murkowski, had 109 in four years.
The public records requests to Palin are largely from members of the Alaska and national press, although some are from people who have filed ethics complaints against the governor.
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The majority of the snooping in the public records concerning Palin comes from the press looking for dirt.
So far they haven’t found any.
It’s an exercise and demonstration of the Progressive Liberal mean spirited attack methodology.
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Political_mama
Posted July 11, 2009 at 11:55 am | Permalink
Anyone who compares Obama’s speeches and Palins, and determines that Palin is the better speaker…probably voted for the worst president ever.
God really, why are people so ignorant? Let me tell you how ridiculous you Palin supporters look. You know those televangelists who ‘heal’ with the prayer cloth, or holy water, or by laying their hands on people…yes, you really do look and sound that damn stupid.
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How ironic P-Mom.
O’BAMA’s speaking style is the same as an ‘old Negro minister’, that is, it’s preachy and sing-song in its literary cadence.
I’m not impressed with O’BAMA. But for those who like the smooth talker and will buy his ‘used cars’ be my guest.
I’m not that gullible.
Pmom I wasn’t a Palin supporter but I’m rethinking my position. Actually look at the substance of Obama’s speeches. Read them. He lies as easily as he breathes and the media has thus far been his pawns. That is changing. Look to see the coverage of his offerings be covered more honestly as the countries condition worsens.
Sarah Palin is no gilded Harvard/Yale educated, teleprompter reading politican. Nobody ever claimed she was, yet.
She is younger and much less traveled then Obama. Good speaking ability takes experience.
Of course the best con men that ever roamed the world have been good speakers.
If that is what you want, vote for Obama.
“RFL” plays the Elitist Card –
“Sarah Palin is no gilded Harvard/Yale educated, teleprompter reading politican. Nobody ever claimed she was….
“She is younger and much less traveled then Obama.”
Hell, the Moose-Dresser attended almost as many junior colleges as “okobserver.” You call that “…much less traveled!?”
But you’re right, “RFL,” President was already a wizened old sage of 2-and-a-half years when Caribou Barbie was born.
Well RFL that is what they did and look what we got!
“The majority of the snooping in the public records concerning Palin comes from the press looking for dirt.”
Let’s assume Gov. Palin is a victim of an unjust system in Alaska, one where the mean ‘ol press can ask for and receive actual copies of the public record (those commie socialist bastids).
Let’s just assume that making such records public is unfair to Alaskans, not merely Gov. Palin.
What’s the remedy? Seems to me this gross violation of justice is best remedied by changing Alaskan law. That way future Alaskans can’t be victimized the way Gov. Palin was victimized.
So as governor of Alaska, what to do? Fight for a new law? Fight to change existing law? How can change be best effected here, inside or outside the lawmaking bodies in Alaskan law?
Hello!?! Here’s a clue, the answer ain’t “quit your job as governor,” not if you were truly victimized and you truly cared about Alaska.
If you truly put the interests of Alaskans first, you stand and fight. You fight to change an unjust system because not only is it the right thing to do, but you’re in the perfect position to do so.
Palin just up and quit.
CONCLUSION: one of the following must be true.
Either
(1) No injustice is being done in Alaska, or
(2) Gov. Palin is unfit to lead.
Take your pick.
I do not at all like it when Obama sounds preachy and I have said so, but his policies are much more in line with what is good for the nation. Democrats always are.
Palin voters are not looking for substance, they are looking for someone to validate their crazy religious beliefs and turn them into policy. Experience or smarts matter to them as much as Bush’s failed records. (but you all love crying about how awful things are right now don’t you?. You fail to attribute any of the mess we’re in to the same policies you have supported).
Wise up. Obama hasn’t lied all that much, not even a lot on a scale of other politicians. Most sites only quote a few things that he either promised and hasn’t been able to deliver yet because of the way things have been, or they are nit picking. There are a few valid complaints, such as the wiretapping which I am very upset about still.
People were digging in the state records for open records information? I would certainly hope so! It concerns me that there were only 180ish. So the state woman had never seen that kind of rush for information…duh…how long had she been there two administrations? And how many had she seen going to run in the presidential race? ONE omg! And how many do you think were done on Obama or the Clintons?
I guess I keep expecting too much in the brains department from cons. I’ll try to dumb it all down for you.
At some point you just really have to throw your hands up in the air and shake your head.
1) “Crazy Religious beliefs” such as:
2) “You fail to attribute any of the mess we’re in to the same policies you have supported).”
What mess and what policies that who has supported?
Can’t respond to accusations or defend policies that are not even listed. Does it feel good to rant about things you can’t even name?
“Political_mama” sighs –
“At some point you just really have to throw your hands up in the air and shake your head.”
Be careful with that.
When the Moose-Dresser did that she was anointed in oil against witches in the Wasilla Second Reorganized Temple of the Talkin’-In-Tongues and Slam-Dunkin’ Satan Ass. of God Church and Discount House of Worship.
There’s been do much CON whine in this forum somebody somewhere needs to gimme a:
THANK-huh, Cheeses!
Why do the liberal dimocrats hate Christians so much?
It’s hard to use reason and logic to make a case for or against something political. But it usually goes like this:
Liberals take notes.
A particular politican sponsored
a particular line of policy which resulted in a particular result.
Then explain how the policy resulted or will result in something either favorable or unfavorable.
Can you do this and make a case against Sarah Palin?
This is how you convince someone of intellect to vote for or against a politician to improve your community. It starts with policy and has Little to do with actual personal attributes of the politician themselves.
When people attack Sarah Palin, they attack her personally, her speeches, her family, the turkey in the background…. Nothing about her ideals and how specifically they are wrong for America
P-mom talks about “radical religous beliefs” that Palin wants to make law. But of course we know P-Mom is lying because she does not specifically mention anything.
“RFL” challenges –
“… explain how the policy resulted or will result in something either favorable or unfavorable.
Can you do this and make a case against Sarah Palin?”
Well, she did get the Wasilla Downtown Arena (and a house) out of the deal.
Gotta give her credit (around a $300,000 sweetheart mortgage for a house that cost the Snow-Machine racer around $70 grand) for that.
And the Moose-Dresser gamed her gubernatorial travel allowance so she was paid by Alaska taxpayers for sleeping in her own bed.
But, of course, that’s all local politics. Because Caribou Barbie is a local politician. She was thrust on the national stage and bombed when she was asked what sort of stuff she reads.
“Uhm… READ?!”
What you CONs don’t seem to understand is how we love you love the Sarah-cuda. You’ve found your champion and she gonna lead you out of the wilderness into the Promised Land. Or, at least, onto the porch where you can see Russia.
Look:
I know what it’s like to root for losers. After all, I’m a Kansas City Royals fan. I know it’s irrational, stupid, doomed to failure, utterly silly.
But you Palin-istas. Wow. What an odd choice for your devotion.
At least the Royals play in the big leagues.
Keep it up, CONs.
If we “libruhls” get your dander up to support the Moose-Dresser more, we’ll keep doing it.
‘Cuz we’re “…SO afraid.”
Yeah. That’s it.
Who Built Sarah’s Half-Million Dollar House? Another Palin Scandal On The Way? »
The Palin family home is a two-story, 3,450-square-foot, four-bedroom, four-bath, wood house situated on Lake Lucille. According to Palin’s income tax returns, the house was assessed at more than half a million dollars — $552,000 to be exact.
Todd Palin told Fox News that he built the 3,450 square-foot, half million dollar home himself with the help of some “buddies.” Since Sarah Palin blocked an effort to require the filing of building permits as mayor of Wasilla, there is no record of who Todd’s “buddies” were.
Coincidentally, at the same time that Todd and his “buddies” were building the Palin house, the $12.5 million dollar Wasilla sports complex and hockey rink was under construction right down the road.
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This is the kind of drivel that passes for lib news. Just cheap shots with no substantiation. What is it about Palin that scares the pants off the libs?
My son spent 6 months and had the help of several of his buddies when he built his house last summer. When he had it appraised after completion it was worth over $110,000 more than he put in it unless you counted the sweat equity. When will the investigations start?
You guys are really idiots with no cognitive abilities between all of you. So easily led. No wonder you put a community organizer in charge of the country. Hows that working for you now? Falling like a rock.
Well, why don’t you say something I want to hear raptor?
I doubt we even speak the same language. If you take my meaning.
I’m hoping it starts “working out” on you and yours and your fat assets any day now okie.
Bluejay when you get off your whiney bu++ and work for a change you can get something of value. Hardwork will do that for you. My sons were never taught to set on their backsides and expect the world to come to them. They work hard and bring it to them.
You might try it someday. Of course my husband was a great father that raised them to know that hard work was the only way you could assure your own destiny. They had a father they admired and still do.
Yeah I was just telling my kid how you get yours okie.
Exploiting prison labor.
Thanks for being the center of today’s lesson for my kid. Republicans are jerks.
Another example of liberal hatred. Not only be the dumbest man on the block but teach your kid the hatred that has destroyed you.
Thats real fatherly love JR.
It may be just me.
But I’m thinking it’s you and your fellow cons who have a case of the nasty there okie. Palin was a particularly telling symptom of that.
We’re glad to play whack a mole with her for ya though!
BlueJay
Posted July 11, 2009 at 2:55 pm | Permalink
Yeah I was just telling my kid how you get yours okie.
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No one gives a good crap what you tell your kid Junior.
Get it? No one cares what lines you fill your kids head with.
It will all come back to you in one form or the other.
Personally, I can’t help but laugh when I hear the GOP meme that liberals are AFRAID of Sarah Palin, etc..
(Pssssssssssssssssttttttttttt………….. we are PRAYING that she is the Republican nominee in 2012. Wishin’ and hopin’ and all that! We Dems PRAY that Sarah the Moose-Killer runs against Obama.)
By the way, shouldn’t they have some additional debates in 2012? You know, the prospective “First Dude” v. the current First Lady?
I wonder how Todd would do against Michelle?
I would bet that he would have to be hospitalized after twenty minutes of debate with Mrs. Obama.
Sure she’ll have a future, there’s a sucker born every minute.
It will all come back to you in one form or the other.
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You know how kids will rebel against the parents. One kis will go hippie against the conservative parents or the preacher kid loses his religion.
bj’s kid will be the biggest conservative you’ve ever seen! TeeHee!
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Regular
Posted July 11, 2009 at 11:58 am | Permalink
Here you go Walker, I read the article carefully, evidently you did not.
“I’ve never seen anything like this before. It’s unprecedented,” said Linda Perez, who handles the requests as Palin’s administrative director and has been in state government since the Sheffield administration in the 1980s.
She said the Palin administration in its two and a half years has received 238 public records requests — 189 of them coming since McCain chose her as his running mate last August. The previous governor, Frank Murkowski, had 109 in four years.
The public records requests to Palin are largely from members of the Alaska and national press, although some are from people who have filed ethics complaints against the governor.
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The majority of the snooping in the public records concerning Palin comes from the press looking for dirt.
So far they haven’t found any.
It’s an exercise and demonstration of the Progressive Liberal mean spirited attack methodology.
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. . .and just what did you expect when she was propped for VP? The requests to go down? A nobody gets the nod for VP, the requests for info about her rise proportionally, and you’re surprised someone wrote about it? Psssttt, I got a bridge I’ll sell you . . . cheap.
Of course some was looking for dirt: it’s politics. But, since nobody knew anything about her, all of it was related to finding dirt? Even Faux news? Wall Street Journal? Are you really that dumb? Don’t answer: I already know the answer.
Good grief: Frank Murkowski never ran for VP, but was the governor of a frozen state. What do the number of request on him have to do with anything? You are stupid.
You write about me flailing my arms when you’ve brought up Clinton, rainy days, extraterrestrials, and the National Enquirer, to list a few. I would say the arm flailing is being done by some low IQ moron named regular.
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Regular
Posted July 11, 2009 at 3:28 pm | Permalink
BlueJay
Posted July 11, 2009 at 2:55 pm | Permalink
Yeah I was just telling my kid how you get yours okie.
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No one gives a good crap what you tell your kid Junior.
Get it? No one cares what lines you fill your kids head with.
It will all come back to you in one form or the other.
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. . . and anybody cares about your opinion? Hahahahahahahahah!
“Get it? No one cares what lines you fill your kids head with.”‘
Yeah I can SEE how much ya don’t care. Tell us some more about it!
The day mccain picked her, her world changed, and dollar signs flashed in her eyes.
I don’t hate Christians. Just the ones who want to shove it down everyone else’s throats like Palin and her Palinites.
Ever notice some of the most devout religions, like Amish and Mennonites aren’t out there trying to dictate what other people do? They just want to live in peace. And you don’t ever hear of people leaving and telling rampant tales of sexual abuse or women abuse and affairs? They’re not hypocrites. I’m fine with them.
Watch and moan, cons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC-tOzXQOsk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bradblog.com%2F&feature=player_embedded
On AOL Politics Daily, long-time White House reporter Carl Cannon bluntly declared that the political press gave Sarah Palin a raw deal in the 2008 campaign, and seriously failed to scrutinize Joe Biden, especially his fact-mangling and odd statements in the vice presidential debate. Cannon summed up:
In the 2008 election, we took sides, straight and simple, particularly with regard to the vice presidential race. I don’t know that we played a decisive role in that campaign, and I’m not saying the better side lost. What I am saying is that we simply didn’t hold Joe Biden to the same standard as Sarah Palin, and for me, the real loser in this sordid tale is my chosen profession.
Introducing Sheffield and Sheppard, Malzberg praised NewsBusters as “one of the greatest Web sites of all time” and said he frequently refers liberal friends to the site for documented evidence of liberal media bias.
A few highlights follow below the fold (video embedded right):
NOEL SHEPPARD: I think the most shocking thing here was you’ve got female reporters who have children that are saying, “Well, why isn’t she home taking care of her kids?”
STEVE MALZBERG: And she’s not home taking care of her kids!
SHEPPARD: It’s unbelievable.
MATTHEW SHEFFIELD: They’re away from their children during a weekday night, talking about Sarah Palin not being with her children.
Bristol Palin, the world now knows, is five months’ pregnant. The McCain campaign released a statement from Governor Palin and her husband expressing loving support for their daughter, who will have her child and plans to marry the father — like Miss Palin, a high-school senior. It is obviously a wrenching situation for the family, but the Palins appear to be handling it appropriately, living by their values.
Shouldn’t that be the end of the matter? John McCain certainly thinks so. The circumstances were raised when Gov. Palin was being vetted, and he nevertheless selected her as his running-mate — an inspired choice, if enthusiasm from Republicans and conservatives is any guide. Barack Obama and his chosen running-mate, Sen. Joe Biden, have admirably stipulated that candidates’ children should be off-limits and that the Palins’ family matters are irrelevant to the upcoming election.
Would that the ticket’s surrogates and supporters followed their candidates’ lead. Instead, there is a feeding frenzy — a race to the bottom between the left-wing blogosphere and the mainstream media, with the bloggers ahead by a hair.
The New York Times’s webpage on Tuesday led with no fewer than three stories about Bristol Palin’s pregnancy. CNN has tried to exploit Miss Palin as a laboratory specimen for a high-profile examination of sex-education. MSNBC and the Huffington Post are titillating viewers with exposes on Miss Palin’s boyfriend. Slate, owned by the Washington Post, is running a “Name Bristol Palin’s Baby” contest. US Weekly has “Babies, Lies, and Scandal” on its cover. But unsavory as all this is, it can’t hold a candle to Andrew Sullivan.
Once a respectable journalist, The Atlantic’s self-declared champion of respect for privacy and of civil discourse now obsesses over Miss Palin, airing baseless and abhorrent questions about the motherhood of Trig, Gov. Palin’s infant son, born this year with Down syndrome. One wonders if David Bradley bought The Atlantic — a venerable institution that once published Mark Twain and Martin Luther King — so that he could associate it with the most despicable ravings of the left-wing blogosphere. What price in reputation is Bradley willing to pay for increased unique-visitor numbers from among the fever swamps?
This shameful but predictable media performance stands in marked contrast to the rigorous “hands-off” privacy policy dutifully honored by the press throughout the Clinton years for the president’s then-teenage daughter, Chelsea. Indeed earlier this year, though Miss Clinton was now well into her twenties and an impressively poised surrogate for her mother’s campaign, NBC News suspended reporter David Shuster for asserting that Sen. Clinton’s campaign was “pimping” her daughter — a classless formulation, to be sure. But where’s the hyper-sensitivity about a candidate’s child now?
When Al Gore’s son was arrested on narcotics and speeding charges in 2007, moreover, the national press was a model of sympathetic restraint. The muted coverage was devoid of calls for a national “teaching moment” on drug abuse or responsible driving. The message was plain and correct: No news here, move along.
The Republican base and other people of good will are angry over this grotesque display. It is obvious what the media and Democrats are up to here. They want to define Sarah Palin as a failure before she even has a chance to succeed. Hence the speculation that McCain will dump her from the ticket. How absurd. All we know about Palin’s performance as a candidate so far is that she gave polished performances at her unveiling in Ohio and at a rally the next day in Pennsylvania. The supposed embarrassments — about her alleged membership in the fringe Alaskan Independence Party and her woefully incomplete vetting — are concoctions of a media stumbling over itself to prove a conclusion it has already reached.
So far, it is the press that has embarrassed itself, not the governor from Alaska.
What a crock – Palin criticized Hillary for being thin-skinned in March 2008, but now she expects that the world should be her crying towel now that she has tasted a bit of the rhetoric.
Get over it, Sarah, if you can’t stand the heat get away from the barbecue pit.
She said that “Barack Obama was palling around with terrorists” knowing full well that that was at best a distortion or at worst false, yet she expects to get a pass?
Bull stuff.
If Palin can’t stand up to media criticism, how is she going to stand up to China, Iran and Russia?
“marked contrast to the rigorous “hands-off” privacy policy dutifully honored by the press throughout the Clinton years for the president’s then-teenage daughter, Chelsea”
Jeez, I remember a well known right wing media talk show host calling Chelsea Clinton the “White House Dog.”
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…………………
“Hands off?”
BTW – AmWay, Chelsea was a minor at the time of the “Dog” statement. Bristol Palin is an adult.
Different, isn’t it?
“how is she going to stand up to China, Iran and Russia?”
Can’t be any worse than Obama kissing their butts.
Once again we see a gross media bias against the GOP. How else can you explain the disclosure and discussions of Todd Palin’s DUI at 22 (20+ years ago) yet no real discussion has ever occurred regarding Barack’s (self-disclosed) cocaine use at a similar age?
In this video, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin reflects on what she says was a powerful mainstream media bias against her candidacy for vice-president.
Palin rips into reporters for repeating factually unfounded claims circulated in the blogosphere that she’s not the real mother of her infant son Trig.
And Palin, who was described by many mainstream media commentators as being woefully underprepared for the vice-presidency, suggests a class bias may be part of the reason why political neophyte Caroline Kennedy is not enduring equally harsh criticism as she lobbies to be appointed to fill the Senate seat in New York vacated by Hillary Clinton.
http://www.ncregister.com/daily/17039/
“Barack’s (self-disclosed) cocaine use at a similar age?”
No, it wasn’t at a similar age – Barack stated that he tried marijuana and cocaine while in High School, not as an adult.
“Media Malpractice” Examines Bias Against Palin
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/02/23/media_malpractice_examines_bias_against_palin.html
“Can’t be any worse than Obama kissing their butts.”
Really? Seems to me that Obama got Russia to agree to a new round of nuclear weapons reductions.
What do you want him to do? Start wars numbers 3, 4 and 5?
The leaders of a women’s political organization that launched earlier this year to support Hillary Clinton are speaking out against what they say are examples of media sexism toward Sarah Palin and urging members to tell the press corps “to back off.”
WomenCount, a group co-founded by top Hillary fundraiser Susie Tompkins Buell, posted a lengthy item on their blog decrying questions over whether Palin can, as a mother of five, juggle her family responsibilities and still be vice president.
“The very notion that Sarah Palin should not have accepted this nomination because she is a mother with demanding challenges underscores just how far we have to go,” wrote Rosemary Camposano, the group’s communications director.
She added: “It will be good for America to watch Sarah Palin on the campaign trail – bouncing from parenting to politics. That’s how most women function – multi-tasking, leaning on friends and family, and waking up each morning and doing it all again.”
Is there a point to your post, AmWay? Why did Palin criticize Hillary for being thin skinned and decrying the media treatment? Can’t she take her own advice?
A column in London’s Daily Telegraph says, “Like Margaret Thatcher before her, Mrs. Palin is coming in for both barrels of left-wing contempt: misogyny and snobbery.”
A column in the Sydney Morning Herald says that what Palin has faced “just goes to show that establishment feminists are only champions of women who subscribe to a narrow set of left-wing positions.”
An editorial in The Australian newspaper took aim at the reporting of Bristol Palin’s pregnancy, saying, “Newspapers forgot their progressive embrace of different lifestyles and resorted to reactionary intolerance.”
A new Rasmussen poll indicates that a majority of Americans agree. Fifty-one percent think that reporters are trying to hurt Palin with their news coverage. Just five percent say the media are actually trying to help the Alaska governor.
Apparently, AmWay, you are okay with the “Chelsea is the White House Dog” comment from one of the leaders of the GOP.
“Just five percent say the media are actually trying to help the Alaska governor.”
Why should the media try to “help” any politician?
“It’s silly to claim Palin has no chance to win the nomination or the presidency.”
–William Kristol
Just saw this. From the guy who gave us Dan Quayle — and whose predictions about Quayle, Bill Clinton, Iraq and GW Bush were laughably FUBAR — this is hilarious.
Bill Kristol, the guy who promised we’d find WMD in Iraq. Plus other asssorted crapola in the halcyon days of Augustus Stupidus’s Coalitiion Provisional Authority over Iraq in 2003.
Uh yeah, right.
If Bill Kristol says a threat comes from the north, then for chrissakes and your own health look to the south. If he says jump, duck. If he says buy, sell. If he says night, think day. If he says black, find the white.
This guy can’t predict for sh*t.
It’s like the kiss of death, Bill Kristol’s endorsement. Ask Quayle, Bush the Lesser…and Sarah Palin.
lol
A new USA Today/Gallup poll conducted Monday night finds a core of 19% of U.S. voters who say they are “very likely” to vote for her should she run, and an additional 24% who are somewhat likely to do so, giving her a decent reservoir of potential support to build upon. However, nearly as many voters (41%) currently say they would be not at all likely to vote for her.
Palin’s announcement last Friday may have taken many political observers by surprise, but the data show her decision to resign the governorship did not affect most Americans’ opinions of her. The poll finds 70% saying their opinion of Palin has not changed as a result of her resignation. Though this is clearly the minority of Americans, more say their opinion of her has gotten worse (17%) than improved (9%).
Majority Believes Media Unfair to Palin
Palin was a relatively unknown political figure when tapped to be John McCain’s running mate, but she quickly energized the GOP ticket, drawing large crowds to their rallies during the presidential campaign. But news coverage of her quickly took a negative turn and many in the political world came to view her as a drag on the McCain campaign.
Palin herself has argued that she has been unjustly attacked by the news media, and most Americans seem to agree. The new poll finds 53% describing the news media’s coverage of Palin as “unfairly negative,” while just 9% say it has been “unfairly positive” and 28% say it has been “about right.”
American_Way
Posted July 11, 2009 at 6:22 pm | Permalink
A new USA Today/Gallup poll conducted Monday night finds a core of 19% of U.S. voters who say they are “very likely” to vote for her should she run, and an additional 24% who are somewhat likely to do so, giving her a decent reservoir of potential support to build upon. However, nearly as many voters (41%) currently say they would be not at all likely to vote for her.
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Please, let it be.
Talk about defining moments — bet everything moments or BIG HISTORY — this would be one. Americans can vote for American native idiocy, or the alternative. Finally.
An added bonus would be a forcible clarification of the GOP.
It’s all good, if you ask me.
In the words of John Lennon, let it be.
Professor of Law, William A. Jacobson, of Cornell Law School is no fan of the disaster Øbama. He wrote a great piece describing how the anti-christ Øbama is driving this country of a cliff and this certainly would not happen if Palin was our President.
If Palin were President, we would not have:
• A debt and deficit rising so far out of proportion to historical norms as to threaten the near-and-long term viability of the country’s ability to service the debt without destroying the value of the dollar, and passing on to our children and grandchildren unsustainable burdens.
Please, please, please, Republicans, please nominate Sarah Palin for your party as president in 2012.
Please.
The liberals in America are just dying to see her in the presidential debates against Barack Obama.
Please nominate the Sarah Queen – it would be an answer to our prayers.
Amway, one of the reasons Palin gave for quitting her elected position was the evil scrutiny by the press. She called Hillary out on the same thing as being thin skinned in march of this year . . . hypocrite.
She claimed Alaska was spending too much money on her ethics charges, even though the main one, troopergate, she called on herself, and, in fact, all the money would have been spent anyway, because that’s how the Alaska constitution is written . . . she lied.
She claims that being a lame duck is not on her agenda. As a one term governor, why did she run in the first place? She was a lame duck the moment she was elected. . . . bogus.
But she’s the best you got, which speaks volumes about the state of the Republican party.
So who cares what happened late last year and early this year? She already said on national TV she could handle the press. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC-tOzXQOsk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bradblog.com%2F&feature=player_embedded
So which is it, she can handle anything thrown at her, or she’s a quitter who can’t? My bet’s on the latter.
chuckle…
Let me repeat, Augustus Stupidus a.k.a. George W Bush a.k.a. 43 a.k.a. Bush the Lesser.
You guys just can’t handle the truth, ya know that? ;)
lol
“• A debt and deficit rising so far out of proportion to historical norms as to threaten the near-and-long term viability of the country’s ability to service the debt without destroying the value of the dollar, and passing on to our children and grandchildren unsustainable burdens.”
Jeez, I thought that was what George WMD Bush did – from $5.4 trillion to $11 trillion in just eight short years.
What, no outrage from the Republicans? Deficits don’t matter – Reagan proved that?
Come on, are the Gop’ers being a bit HIPPO-critical these days?
WSClark
Posted July 11, 2009 at 6:35 pm | Permalink
Please, please, please, Republicans, please nominate Sarah Palin for your party as president in 2012.
Please.
The liberals in America are just dying to see her in the presidential debates against Barack Obama.
Please nominate the Sarah Queen – it would be an answer to our prayers.
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DO NOT LISTEN TO WS, REPEAT DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM.
WE ARE TERRIFIED, REPEAT TERRIFIED OF FORMER ALASKAN GOVERNOR SARAH PALIN!
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, RELENT IF YOU KNOW MERCY EVEN BY ANY OTHER NAME!!!
lol
“My son spent 6 months and had the help of several of his buddies when he built his house last summer. When he had it appraised after completion it was worth over $110,000 more than he put in it unless you counted the sweat equity. When will the investigations start?” [Okie]
And when was it your son or his wife was elected Governor of a State??
And when did your son charge his employer for driving mileage to an from his office, while he lived/worked at HOME??? Ya know, like Ms. Sarah did in Alaska??
And you wonder why there are “no investigations”??
Oh yea, I forgot — Okie, how big did HANK post on here that YOUR butt is?? Did I miss that???
So much hate from the Libs…
And they are very angry.
It is interesting to see our friends on the left on one hand say things like: “Please, please, please, Republicans, please nominate Sarah Palin for your party as president in 2012″ (using Clark’s post without permission), and on the other savagely attack her and her family as if she is someone to be afraid of.
Ah, but Sarah Palin is not backing away from anything. In fact now she will be able to go on the offensive for her principles without being a sitting duck for the unconscionable attacks from the left. I still don’t think she will be a presidential candidate, but she can have a profound affect.
EXCLUSIVE: Palin to stump for conservative Democrats
By Ralph Z. Hallow (Contact) | Sunday, July 12, 2009
ANCHORAGE, Alaska | Brushing aside the criticisms of pundits and politicos, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said she plans to jump immediately back into the national political fray — stumping for conservative issues and even Democrats — after she prematurely vacates her elected post at month’s end.
The former Republican vice-presidential nominee and heroine to much of the GOP’s base said in an interview she views the electorate as embattled and fatigued by nonstop partisanship, and she is eager to campaign for Republicans, independents and even Democrats who share her values on limited government, strong defense and “energy independence.”
“I will go around the country on behalf of candidates who believe in the right things, regardless of their party label or affiliation,” she said over lunch in her downtown office, 40 miles from her now-famous hometown of Wasilla — population 7,000 — where she began her political career.
“People are so tired of the partisan stuff — even my own son is not a Republican,” said Mrs. Palin, who stunned the political world earlier this month with her decision to step down as governor July 26 with 18 months left in her term.
Both her son, Track, 20, an enlisted soldier serving in Iraq, and her husband, Todd, are registered as “nonpartisan” in Alaska.
Mrs. Palin, who vaulted to national prominence when Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican, chose her as his running mate last August, left the door open for a future presidential bid.
But she shot down speculation among Republicans that she might challenge incumbent Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski for the party’s nomination to the Senate next year, and she blamed her resignation as governor on the nasty, hardball tactics that last year’s presidential campaign brought to her state…
Regular
Posted July 11, 2009 at 6:49 pm | Permalink
So much hate from the Libs…
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Finally, traction on the idea that the GOP has jumped the shark on President Obama: references to President Bush as Augustus Stupidus, etc., elicit a plaintive “so much hate from the Libs…”
They even get a capital L, lol.
Ah, only six months in and life is lookin’ pretty sweet for the Dems. :D
Keep this on the hush and hush:
http://www.sarahpac.com/landing/?cdtrack_creative=6d69076d-0dce-4cb6-ac12-ee4becd25181&cdtrack_source=6766ecf9-5d7e-4988-ba24-e120e6fe0873
And if you want to help Sarah against the liberal lawsuits:
http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/
“even my own son is not a Republican,”
No, he’s PROBABLY a member of the Alaskan Independence party.
“she blamed her resignation as governor on the nasty, hardball tactics that last year’s presidential campaign brought to her state…”
Quitter.
“and on the other savagely attack her and her family as if she is someone to be afraid of.”
How did we “savagely attack her and her family” Outlander?
Did we suggest that she was “palling around with terrorists?”
Did we question her eligibility to run for the VP or presidency because she was not a naturalized citizen?
Did we suggest that she illegally benefited from affirmative action programs given that she is 44.6% Arab and not really African American?
Did we criticize her relationship with her maternal grandparents?
Did we call her daughter “the White House Dog?”
Did we criticize the size of her butt?
Just what are these “savage attacks?”
How did we “savagely attack her and her family” Outlander?
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Good one Clarksy.
Please, please Sarah, get the nom from the GOP’ers – please.
We are dying to see you take on Obama – you will be on a suicide watch ten minutes after the end of the first presidential debate.
“Good one Clarksy.”
I would guess that means you have no answer other than to repeat GOP talking points, Outlander.
No Clark, I didn’t think you were stupid, so I assumed you were kidding.
“No Clark, I didn’t think you were stupid, so I assumed you were kidding.”
So where are these savage attacks on Palin – you know – worse than the savage attacks on Hillary or Barack?
Personally, I think Hillary got the worst of it, followed by Barack and then about a dozen others, then Palin.
Damn, during the campaign, I thought she was given a PASS by the media.
“Is being an idiot like being high all the time?”
Here is some truth. Obama won by a relatively small margin, considering he was running against the Bush/McCain duo. He should have won by a landslide. He didn’t. McCain was and has always been a weak Republican. The Libs position is not as strong as they would like to think, and getting worse. Overreaching as usual. The whole “GOP is dead” crap is crap. Keep the faith, baby!
“Damn, during the campaign, I thought she was given a PASS by the media.”
while just 9% say it has been “unfairly positive”
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Regular
Posted July 11, 2009 at 6:49 pm | Permalink
So much hate from the Libs…
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American_Way
Posted July 11, 2009 at 6:52 pm | Permalink
And they are very angry.
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Nope, just speaking the truth: Something neither of you are capable of handling.
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American_Way
Posted July 11, 2009 at 7:12 pm | Permalink
“Is being an idiot like being high all the time?”
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Gee, I don’t know. You’re the idiot; why don’t you tell us.
In the words of someone who knows her better than any of us ever will, her ex-soon-to-be-son-in-law, Levi Johnston:
“ANCHORAGE, Alaska, July 10 (UPI) — Levi Johnston, the teenage father of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s grandson, says she quit to cash in on her celebrity and spend more time with her family.
Johnston, 19, spoke to reporters from several news organizations Thursday at a session arranged by his lawyer, the Anchorage Daily News reported. He described statements Palin allegedly made while he was still engaged to her daughter, Bristol.
Palin “had talked about how nice it would be to take some of this money people have been offering us and just run with it, and saying forget everything else,” Johnston said. ‘
Like I said, a sucker’s born every minute, and Sarah’s ready to cash in.
The Libs are hitching their wagon to a 19 year old.
Wasn’t that long ago you were hailing him as a fine upstanding young man that was going to do right by his family, remember back when we told you it was all a sham until after the election?
Reminds me of these lyrics ” Go on, take the money and run”.
Cons so easily fooled, why shouldn’t she grab the brass (gold) ring.
Palin “had talked about how nice it would be to take some of this money people have been offering us and just run with it, and saying forget everything else,” Johnston said. ‘
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And that’s bad? Sounds pretty smart to me. Gotta make hay while the sun’s shining.
Just think how much more lucrative her future could be if her groupies can get her into the oval office for a yr. or so!
“Here is some truth. Obama won by a relatively small margin, considering he was running against the Bush/McCain duo. He should have won by a landslide. He didn’t.” — fleettwood
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Obama 365
McCain 173
President Obama received 192 MORE electoral votes than Senator McCain!
Dem pickups (vs. 2004): CO FL IN IA NV NM NC OH VA
GOP pickups (vs. 2004): (None)
Presidents are elected with electoral votes. Where Republicans are strong there are inadequate electoral votes to win at the national level.
Looks a LOT like a landslide to me!
Fark…
Duck yall!
okobserver is soon to fly her broomstick in and direct a green monkey attack on lindainks55!
(just wait yall, just wait)
Well, it looks like the Libs don’t want to play nice.
So it’s back to the ‘no gloves off’ game. Sorry lindainks, your buddies don’t want to cooperate.
Regular, I’ve never been responsible for any posts but my own, and don’t ever intend to be. We’re adults here, how we conduct ourselves is evident to everyone reading. Civility and conducting oneself with dignity doesn’t know a political leaning.
True lindainks and I won’t attack you for your political view.
Too bad your friends don’t have the same view.
lindainks55
Posted July 11, 2009 at 8:25 pm | Permalink
Regular, I’ve never been responsible for any posts but my own, and don’t ever intend to be. We’re adults here, how we conduct ourselves is evident to everyone reading. Civility and conducting oneself with dignity doesn’t know a political leaning.
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Pearls cast before swine, imo, but hats off nevertheless for your graciousness.
Thanks for lending a smidgeon of class to the scrum otherwise known as WEBlog!
Woops.
Apology extended to Regular.
That was classy. Thank you.
“So it’s back to the ‘no gloves off’ game”
You …people did that when you stole the 2000 election.
It just took our side a while to start fighting back.
That the core of your party would even DARE to try and force Palin on us tells us that further negotiation with you is useless and a waste of valuable hitting back time.
That’s nine years ago BlueJay, you can let it go.
No one tried to force any candidate on you, we have elections. You had the opportunity to vote, if you didn’t then there is no one to blame but yourself.
O lord won’t you buy me a mercedes benz, my friends all drive porches, I must make amends. Worked hard all my life …
You are, of course, correct that we use electoral votes, but you people cannot be happy with the total vote. Against Bush/McCain? Keep denyin’, yo.
66,882,230
58,343,671
“you can let it go.”
Never.
When the dust settles, and the only one still waiting there is Larry Flynt, you have to ask yourself one quesition:
Will she do it? Captioned- Nailin’ Palin 2 ?
“Keep denyin’, ”
We won, you lost. What was it you all told us in 2000?
Oh, yeah, “GET OVER IT!”
Maybe ya’ll should take yer own advice.
If she did then “the empress has no clothes” would be prophetic!
A 6.8 percent difference fleettwood – not bad out of 125 million voters.
Amazing isn’t it? 6.8% = GOP is dead. TrashLibs/GimmeLibs
I didn’t know you could drive a porch. Gonna have to try that someday :P.
I don’t want the cons to put Palin up for the republican nominee, the American people have proven too often that they are gullible to ignorant politicians who just attack. Since Palin cannot ever win on her smarts and wit, that’s the only other way she might.
And then we’d have another Bush/Cheney situation. The US cannot afford another bad president right now.
Actually, if you look at long-term historical trends, it kinda sucks to be Republican. The recent 12-year congressional majority is less impressive when you consider how they barely held onto it, and had to steal the presidency in 2000. Prior to that, they held the White House for 12 but couldn’t even win the House, or keep the Senate.
And, of course, following the Great Depression, there was a long period in the wilderness (after World II, the parties changed hands repeatedly. Yeah, they liked Ike, but the Dems won Congress in 1954, and kept it for the next 26 years.
I used to bemoan the Democrats’ uncanny ability to self-destruct, but in the long run they have certainly been outdone.
And if I was Republican now, I would scratching my head wondering what sort of alternative to the Obama coalition can win elections in the future.
And I’d look over the past 76 years, and wince.
Palin’ Palin’ Palin’
Keep movin’, movin’, movin’,
Though they’re disapprovin’,
Keep them doggies movin’ Rawhide!
Don’t try to understand ‘em,
Just rope and throw and grab ‘em,
Soon we’ll be living high and wide.
Boy my heart’s calculatin’
My true love will be waitin’, be waiting at the end of my ride.
Move ‘em on, head ‘em up,
Head ‘em up, move ‘em out,
Move ‘em on, head ‘em out Rawhide!
Set ‘em out, ride ‘em in
Ride ‘em in, let ‘em out,
Cut ‘em out, ride ‘em in Rawhide.
Palin’, Palin’, Palin’
Palin’, Palin’, Palin’
Palin’, Palin’, Palin’
Palin’, Palin’, Palin’
Rawhide!
Palin’, Palin’, Palin’
Though the streams are swollen
Keep them dogies Palin’
Rawhide!
Rain and wind and weather
Hell-bent for leather
Wishin’ my gal was by my side.
All the things I’m missin’,
Good vittles, love, and kissin’,
Are waiting at the end of my ride
CHORUS
Move ‘em on, head ‘em up
Head ‘em up, move ‘em on
Move ‘em on, head ‘em up
Rawhide
Count ‘em out, ride ‘em in,
Ride ‘em in, count ‘em out,
Count ‘em out, ride ‘em in
Rawhide!
Keep movin’, movin’, movin’
Though they’re disapprovin’
Keep them dogies movin’
Rawhide!
Don’t try to understand ‘em
Just rope, throw, and brand ‘em
Soon we’ll be living high and wide.
My hearts calculatin’
My true love will be waitin’,
Be waitin’ at the end of my ride.
Rawhide!
Rawhide!
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Some kind of infatuation there Brownlee?
Actually, Sarah Palin is quite a legitimate subject there, JJ. Incredibly, many people still want her to be president.
But I suppose you have a point. How important is this flakey woman’s resignation compared to, say, the Obama administration’s disgraceful, shocking and utterly indefensible embrace of Stalinist-Bushist–monarchist tactics like indefinite detention? One would think that one was settled with the habeas corpus rule in the Magna Carta (1215), or the similar provision against suspending the Great Writ in our Constitution, but apparently, in post-Bush America, we’re operating under some radically different, undefined charter.
Feel free to be paranoid, JJ–for a change you might be right, and he’ll probably come after the likes of you first.
Rage—Are you refering to crap like this–
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE56A2YS20090711
The only way to end this crap is for the justice department to send Bush/Cheney and any of the other administration war criminal to jail.
These two clowns turned this nation into the very thing we fought against in several other places around the world in eight short years time.
Don`t even think Bush didn`t know about all this and approve of it. It`s the old game of good cop bad cop, I know nothing bullship.
The problem is none of the azz holes in congress has the guts to stand up for the Constitution they swore to uphold.
These crooks make what Nixon did look like child’s play and they are going to get away with it. Friggin amazing. We have a group of gutless wonders in Washington.
Rage—Are you refering to crap like this–
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE56A2YS20090711
No, but the moderation filter won’t let me explain.
Test.
progressive
test 2
progressive.org
Well, that’s fascinating: apparently linking to The Progressive magazine is verboten on WEBlog.
I don’t have time to ponder why.
Here is the offending link, minus the http.
Obama Slides Further Down Bush’s Hill on Indefinite Detention
http://www.progressive.org/wx070809.html
Oh, right–only 1 link a post. I forgot.
(Idiots)
. . .except my test post was only a single link–I guess we have to leave the http off now.
. . .but why didn’t it object to the Reuter’s link?
Fascinating.
Looks like SP is going to try and re-invent herself, says she’ll campaign for dems and repubs alike, wants to form a coalition just right of center.
She’s got some movin to do, you betcha!
“says she’ll campaign for dems and repubs alike”
After her “performance” during the General Campaign, what Democrat worth his or her standing would allow Sarah Palin to campaign for them?
If they just used her as a front person, she’d only attract the far right, doubt she’d bring in any moderates from either side.