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We know that President Obama is in Russia because Sarah Palin (quitter) saw him from her front porch.
David Letterman (paraphrased)
Obama hits another HOME RUN!!!!
WASHINGTON – New safety standards aimed at reducing salmonella and E. coli outbreaks are part of a government effort to try to make food safer to eat.
A food safety panel established by President Barack Obama developed the new rules for eggs, poultry, beef, leafy greens, melons and tomatoes as well as for better coordination and communication among the agencies overseeing the nation’s food supply.
Today Al Franken will FINALLY be sworn in a a US Senator!!!!
DEMS win because WE don’t quit!
all satatom all the time.
Hooray for statom!!!!!!!
I’m a stickler, “satatom” –
I don’t consider it a true WE Blog bingo unless all posts are to different threads.
But that’s just me.
Well played, sir.
What happened to the big Teabag event that was supposed to happen this 4th of July? I saw one of the events on the news that drew maybe 20 people. Was there a Tea Party in Wichita?
“XXX” –
The tea-baggers had something more important to them than the future of Western Civilization.
They wanted to drink beer.
Protect your local growers. Contact your rep ref: HR 2749
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-2749
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Monkeyhawk
Posted July 7, 2009 at 8:44 am | Permalink
“XXX” –
The tea-baggers had something more important to them than the future of Western Civilization.
They wanted to drink beer.
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Kind of what I thought. They seem to have a very short attention span.
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php
Monkeyhawk
Posted July 7, 2009 at 8:10 am | Permalink
I’m a stickler, “satatom” –
I don’t consider it a true WE Blog bingo unless all posts are to different threads.
But that’s just me.
Well played, sir.
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Thanks MH!
Point taken. Now I have a greater goal to aspire to (for?).
SolDevVB
Posted July 7, 2009 at 9:02 am | Permalink
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php
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Ron Paul who?
On this date, Jul 7th, record setting temperatures for Wichita Kansas
High: 106 °F (1980)
Low: 55 °F (1908)
Ron Paul who?
Wasn’t meant for you mo’tatas. It is over your head and I don’t have the time nor patience to attempt to explain it to you in terms you are able to understand.
satatom
Posted July 7, 2009 at 9:18 am | \l “comment-616049″
SolDevVB
Posted July 7, 2009 at 9:02 am | Permalink
“http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php”
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Ron Paul who?
As the Republican party regroups and re-constitutes you will see quite a bit of Ron Paul.
Not as a face in front of a camera, but in thought and understanding.
You mean free trade maybe isn’t good?
Ron Paul weaves fantasies and rainbows about libertarianism.
None of it would work in real life.
But the Paul-bearers lap it up like Jonestown Kool-Aid drinkers.
“It seemed like a good idea at the time.”
Libertarians want to smoke dope, shoot guns, and not pay taxes.
Yeah, that’s the ticket for governance.
“It seemed like a good idea at the time.”
Like spending more money than any president in history?
“It seemed like a good idea at the time.”
Indeed.
The American Bar Assoc. give Soto top rating, but brownback and Roberts know better.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090707/pl_nm/us_court_sotomayor_3
Is the Wichita Public Library a socialist institution? Enquiring minds want to know.
Where is the world’s outrage, why haven’t the repubs introduced a strong resolution?
URUMQI, China (Reuters) – Han Chinese armed with iron bars and machetes spilled down side streets and into the stairwell of an apartment building on Tuesday, looking for Muslim Uighur targets two days after bloody ethnic clashes killed 156 and wounded more than 1,000.
Answer man here: Yes a “tea” party was held at the Sedgwick County Courthouse on Saturday morning, July 4th. I went by more than an hour late, for a few minutes at about 9:30 AM. Many people were already leaving but about 200 remained with volunteer speakers still talking to the crowd.
Where is the world’s outrage, why haven’t the repubs introduced a strong resolution?
Hmmm, isn’t your boy obama the “leader”? What is your boy doing about it?
As the Republican party regroups and re-constitutes you will see quite a bit of Ron Paul.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha
in other words….when pigs fly
Better buy up MORE guns ‘n’ ammo Repukes!
Obama’s gonna take all your $$$ away!
WASHINGTON — Reacting to swings in oil prices in recent months, federal regulators announced on Tuesday that they were considering trading restrictions on hedge funds and other “speculative” traders in markets for oil, natural gas and other energy products.
In a big departure from the hands-off approach to market regulation of the last two decades, the chairman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, Gary Gensler, said his agency would consider new limits on the volume of energy futures contracts that purely financial investors would be allowed to hold.
The agency also announced that it would pull back part of the veil on the oil and gas markets, publishing more detailed information about the aggregate activity of hedge funds and traders who arbitrage between domestic and foreign energy prices.
“My firm belief is that we must aggressively use all existing authorities to ensure market integrity,” Mr. Gensler said in a written statement.
Mr. Gensler announced that his agency will hold several hearings in July and August, the first of which will examine whether to impose federal “speculative limits” on futures contracts for energy products.
Oil prices have swung wildly in the last year, hitting about $145 a barrel last summer, then plunging to $33 in December before rising to about $70.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne0drDwkXU0&feature=player_embedded
See it for yourself: Al Franken becomes Senator from Minnesota.
Phantom
Posted July 7, 2009 at 11:43 am | Permalink
The American Bar Assoc. give Soto top rating, but brownback and Roberts know better.
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Brownback and Roberts are waiting to see what kind of rating she receives from the Honky Tonk Bar Association.
Thanks DavidB for Al Franken video.
Leave it to Brownback to get all smaltzy with the new Senator near the end of the video.
A former Guantanamo Bay inmate is leading the fight against U.S. Marines in the Helmand province of Afghanistan, a senior U.S. defense official confirmed to FOX News on Tuesday.
fleettwood
Posted July 7, 2009 at 3:36 pm | Permalink
A former Guantanamo Bay inmate is leading the fight against U.S. Marines in the Helmand province of Afghanistan, a senior U.S. defense official confirmed to FOX News on Tuesday.
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hahahahahahahahahahahaah you actually believe the T and A channel?
Buy a loofah and take a shower with Nathaniel.
Maybe being falsely imprisoned and abused for seven years before Bush released him p***ed the guy off, ya think??
From the Huffington Post:
WASHINGTON — The Taliban’s new top operations officer in southern Afghanistan had been a prisoner at the Guantanamo Bay detention center, the latest example of a freed detainee who took a militant leadership role and a potential complication for the Obama administration’s efforts to close the prison.
Yep satatom we need more of Obama’s interference in the free market. Let him take over the market now. How long will it take him to destroy it.
Just what we needed a community organizer whose only administrative experience was with ACORN. We all know how that played out don’t we.
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US loan defaults hit record level
Credit card issuers have seen higher defaults
The level of people falling behind with consumer loans in the US hit a new high in the first three months of 2009, the American Bankers Association said.
Rising unemployment was behind the missed payments, it suggested.
Delinquencies – payments that were more than 30 days overdue – rose to 3.23% from 3.22%, the highest level since rates began being tracked in the 1970s.
Credit card loan delinquencies also increased, rising to 4.75% from 4.52% in the last quarter of 2008.
The US unemployment rate is now at a 25-year high of 9.4%.
“The number one driver of delinquencies is job loss,” said the ABA’s chief economist, James Chessen.
“When people lose their jobs, they can’t pay their bills. Delinquencies won’t improve until companies start hiring again and we see a significant economic turnaround.”
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Yep we have change we can believe in and so can all of those unemployed who can’t pay their credit cards and mortgage payments.
From CBS News:
(CBS/AP) Abdullah Ghulam Rasoul, formerly Guantanamo prisoner No. 008, was among 13 Afghan prisoners released to the Afghan government in December 2007.
He is now known as Mullah Abdullah Zakir, a nom de guerre that Pentagon and intelligence officials say is used by a Taliban leader who is in charge of operations against U.S. and Afghan forces in southern Afghanistan.
Well we can only hope they treat any Americans captured as well as they were treated and release them with their heads still intact.
Hee hee hee…
You said…
“Mullah Abdullah”
Say it out loud once. Just for fun.
Hee hee hee…
Hey satatom,
I think fleettwood just bloodied your nose!
HA freakin’ HA!
B. Obama was never a community organizer for ACORN.. My my my how these fairy tales grow and grow and grow.. farther from the truth as time goes by…
Mr Obama worked for Developing Communities Project in Chicago.
ANTI
Posted July 7, 2009 at 4:05 pm | Permalink
Hey satatom,
I think fleettwood just bloodied your nose!
HA freakin’ HA!
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Not even close anti christ!
FoxNews sayWhat?
“Although the militant detainees who have resurfaced were released under the Bush administration, the revelation underscores the Obama administration’s dilemma in moving to close the detention camp at Guantanamo and figuring out what to do with the nearly 250 prisoners who remain there.”
Classic WMD bush, either he had an innocent guy, that because of his illegal detention went on to become America’s mortal enemy, or he let a guilty guy go!
that because of his illegal detention went on to become America’s mortal enemy,
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BlameAmericaFirst. He was a damned Boy Scout before he was captured.
“He was a damned Boy Scout before he was captured.”
Some were actually allied with the Americans prior to being given up by their countrymen for bounties. Needless to say, after years at Gitmo, they were no longer allied with America.
Some were actually allied with the Americans prior to being given up by their countrymen for bounties
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You have a link from moveon or dailykos?
satatom
Posted July 7, 2009 at 4:54 pm | Permalink
ANTI
Posted July 7, 2009 at 4:05 pm | Permalink
Hey satatom,
I think fleettwood just bloodied your nose!
HA freakin’ HA!
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Not even close anti christ!
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Last post in thread after ass clearly handed to you 60 minutes ago.
Quitter.
Phantom
Posted July 7, 2009 at 5:18 pm | Permalink
Classic WMD bush, either he had an innocent guy, that because of his illegal detention went on to become America’s mortal enemy, or he let a guilty guy go!
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And now with hindsight as our guide we clearly should what Phantom?
MOSCOW, Russia (CNN) — The United States is “absolutely not” giving Israel a green light to attack Iran, U.S. President Barack Obama told CNN Tuesday.
OR:
U.S. Vice President Joe Biden appeared to leave the door open on Sunday for Israel to attack Iran if it saw fit.
“Israel can determine for itself — it’s a sovereign nation — what’s in their interest and what they decide to do relative to Iran and anyone else,” Biden said on ABC’s “This Week.”
“You have a link from moveon or dailykos?”
No, unlike Republicans, I have actual facts.
Professor, Seton Hall University School of Law and
Counsel to two Guantanamo detainees
Among the data revealed by this Report:
1. Fifty-five percent (55%) of the detainees are not determined to have committed any hostile acts against the United States or its coalition allies.
2. Only 8% of the detainees were characterized as al Qaeda fighters. Of the remaining detainees, 40% have no definitive connection with al Qaeda at all and 18% are have no definitive affiliation with either al Qaeda or the Taliban.
4. Only 5% of the detainees were captured by United States forces. 86% of the detainees were arrested by either Pakistan or the Northern Alliance and turned over to United States
custody.
(snip)
The Report concludes, however, that the large majority of detainees never participated in any combat against the United States on a battlefield.
The report is quite lengthy, so I won’t post it all here – you can read it for yourself.
And………
“This 86% of the detainees captured by Pakistan or the Northern Alliance were handed over to the
United States at a time in which the United States offered large bounties for capture of suspected
enemies.”
The bounties ranged from $3,000 to $25,000. Now if you were a goat herder making $1,500 a year and you found that you could make $25K for dropping a dime on your brother-in-law that you didn’t like in the first place, would you do it?
Apparently, many Afghans did.
Mr_Kia
Posted July 7, 2009 at 5:53 pm | Permalink
satatom
Posted July 7, 2009 at 4:54 pm | Permalink
ANTI
Posted July 7, 2009 at 4:05 pm | Permalink
Hey satatom,
I think fleettwood just bloodied your nose!
HA freakin’ HA!
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Not even close anti christ!
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Last post in thread after ass clearly handed to you 60 minutes ago.
Quitter.
Mr Kia come see me if you think my nose is bloody.
nitwit
ws chooses to believe the lawyers for the terrorists. Shocker!!
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The data reveals that the Government divides a detainee’s enemy combatant status into six
distinct categories that describe the terrorist organization with whom the detainee is affiliated.
Figure 1 illustrates the breakdown of each group’s representation by the data:
1. al Qaeda (32%)
2. al Qaeda & Taliban (28%)
3. Taliban (22%)
4. al Qaeda OR Taliban (7%)
5. Unidentified Affiliation (10%)
6. Other (1%)
The CSRT Summary of Evidence
provides no way to determine the difference
between “unidentified/none alleged” and
“other” and no explanation for why there are
separate categories for both “al Qaeda and
Taliban” and “al Qaeda or Taliban.”
If, after four years of detention, the Government is unable to determine if a detainee is either
al Qaeda or Taliban, then it is reasonable to conclude that the detainee is neither. Under this
assumption, the data reveals that 40% of the detainees are not affiliated with al Qaeda and 18%
percent of the detainees are not affiliated with either al Qaeda or the Taliban.
satatom
Posted July 7, 2009 at 6:11 pm | Permalink
Mr Kia come see me if you think my nose is bloody.
nitwit
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Why would I do that when it’s obvious?
But your veiled physical threats put you in a whole other catergory.
Get outta the kitchen if you can’t stand the heat.
Quitter.
Weasel talk anyone?
“If, after four years of detention, the Government is unable to determine if a detainee is either
al Qaeda or Taliban, then it is reasonable to conclude that the detainee is neither.”
AND NOW! We will start the 24 hour coverage for the next 7 days.
FORGETTING MICHAEL JACKSON!
Once again the world will start spinning, other people will die sudden and tragic deaths.
Soldiers will once again die in Afghanistan and Iraq though the news of their deaths will still be noted as nothing more then a few words on the ribbon that runs at the bottom of the screen.
All this to help you in FORGETTING MICHAEL JACKSON!
“ws chooses to believe the lawyers for the terrorists. Shocker!!”
You obviously did not read the report, Fleet.
Note:
One, no professor of law would risk his tenure by publishing a paper while knowing it COULD possibly be false. The lawyer is question, Mark Denbeaux, did NOT publish this paper as an opinion, he published it as a Seton Hall professor of law.
Two, the report is entitled “A Profile of 517 Detainees through Analysis of Department of Defense Data.”
DoD data – not opinion.
If you and whoever get your news from the T and A Faux News, that’s your problem
No one has bloodied my nose and if you don’t believe it mr Kia…you can be a man and look upon my face to see the truth.
Otherwise…you are a liar.
“But your veiled physical threats” Mr Kia
Typical whiney crybaby Repube. Lies about my physican appearance and then runs away like a mouse when I invite him to see for himself.
Coward AND liar AND quitter.
I lost my liberal secret decoder ring. I don’t know what T and A is?
However, that is irrelevant because Fleetwood kicked your virtual ass with a story from CBS/AP (That’s Associated Press for the MSNBC challenged).
Do you prefer to be referenced as a liar, re+ard or quitter in the future?
What you and so many other cons have missed in all this is that the original a. 750 detainees were determined to be enemy combatants, the “worst of the worst” yet the Bush Administration released over 500 hundred of them.
Why would Bush release 500 of the “worst of the worst?”
There was no compelling legal deadline to meet, the ACLU had won no court cases forcing release, Obama was not even elected president or even his party’s nominee, Congress had not forced his hand, so WHY did Bush release 500 of the “worst of the worst?”
Whatever cowardly Kia.
oh boy…the macho huffing and puffing continues..
“…you can be a man and look upon my face to see the truth.”
I am sooo impressed. not.
It is an opinion blog..get over yourself, will you? Having a difference of opinion does not make you right and someone else wrong.
Dear DA: Perhaps a review is in order:
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hahahahahahahahahahahaah you actually believe the T and A channel?
Buy a loofah and take a shower with Nathaniel.
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From the Huffington Post:
WASHINGTON — The Taliban’s new top operations officer in southern Afghanistan had been a prisoner at the Guantanamo Bay detention center, the latest example of a freed detainee who took a militant leadership role and a potential complication for the Obama administration’s efforts to close the prison.
I love this one……………
According to the Bush Admin……………..
“The detainee participated in military operations against the United States and its coalition partners.
1. The detainee fled, along with others, when the United States forces bombed their camp.”
Well, damn, what the Hell would any reasonable person do while under fire with little or no ability to defend one’s self?
The lawyer is question, Mark Denbeaux, did NOT publish this paper as an opinion, he published it as a Seton Hall professor of law.
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dumbasssaywhat?
* The authors are counsel for two detainees in Guantanamo.
And more………
From the Bush Admin…………….
“Associations with unnamed and unidentified individuals and/or organizations;
Associations with organizations, the members of which would be allowed into the United States by the Department of Homeland Security
Possession of rifles
Use of a guest house
Possession of Casio watches
Wearing of olive drab clothing”
Damn, according to that criteria, about half the American population could have been sent to Gitmo.
“dumbasssaywhat?”
Hmmmmmmmmmm…………………. did I call you a name, Fleet? If so, I must have missed it.
The lawyer in question published the PAPER as a Professor of Law at Seton Hall University, not as an opinion piece by a lawyer for Gitmo detainees.
If you cannot grasp that FACT, then there is no point in continuing this discussion.
Lawyers for terrorists; you gotta love ‘em!
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Membership in the Taliban is different and also not clearly defined. According to the
Government, one can be a conscripted (and therefore presumably unwilling) member of the Taliban
and still be an enemy combatant.
The lawyer in question published the PAPER as a Professor of Law at Seton Hall University, not as an opinion piece by a lawyer for Gitmo detainees.
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So, is he a lawyer for the terrorist or not?
“Lawyers for terrorists; you gotta love ‘em!”
Obviously, Fleet, you would rather make your lame attempts at humor than to have a serious analysis of facts. You have chosen to ignore researched information from the DoD it’s self in favor of blanket insults.
I’ll add you to my ignore list.
So, is he a lawyer for the terrorist or not?
Membership in the Taliban is different and also not clearly defined. According to the
Government, one can be a conscripted (and therefore presumably unwilling) member of the Taliban
and still be an enemy combatant.
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By ws “logic”, US draftees should not be captured.
Genius!
Palin is still a quitter. Run away Palin, Run away!
Yeah she quit because of ethics violations investigations?
Well heck, just quit violating ethics!
hoo HOO!
Andrea Mitchell chased her out to the lake!
Fleet — Ummmm… WE donthsve any Draftees!! ID10T
Ahhh..bj has the ‘inside scoop’, claiming:
Yeah she quit because of ethics violations investigations
care to back that up there bj? Or are you just once again making things up to see your initials on the screen?
Fleet — Ummmm… WE donthsve any Draftees!! ID10T
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Is your memory that short?
correction: donthsve = dont have
I just heard her SAY it to Andrea Mitchell on Countdown Reptar.
Catch the rerun at 9.
Fleet we havent had Draftees for YEARS!!! When we go back to a conscripted military, then come back and make your silly point…
However, when we DID have a Draft, those who were unwilling could become conscientious objecters… apparently something the Taliban or AlQuaida dont allow…
How stupid does it get, Fleet??? You throw up a RED HERRING, and then gripe???
Back to your corner… Suck on that beer!!
“those who were unwilling could become conscientious objecters”
Unwilling to do what?
However, when we DID have a Draft, those who were unwilling could become conscientious objecters
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As usual, you are grasping. Your logic is weaker than usual.
that is not quite what she said there, bj…nice try, tho. here is part of the quote…
“…because every time we try to do something we get hit with an ethics-violation charge or a lawsuit, because that’s the political game that’s being played right now, even though we’ve won every one of them that’s been thrown our way.”
she refers to the political game of these investigations. good try bj, but off the mark.
Fleet… WE DO NOT HAVE A DRAFT ANYMORE… YOUR COMMENT WAS PURE BOGUS!!! CANT YOU STAY ON PPINT??
PPINT = POINT
Hud
Posted July 7, 2009 at 7:18 pm | Permalink
“those who were unwilling could become conscientious objecters”
Unwilling to do what?
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dO TRY TO KEEP UP, dUH — ERRR… hUD
“because every time we try to do something we get hit with an ethics-violation charge or a lawsuit”
Perhaps Sarah thinks that she was elected Queen of Alaska?
And just who is “we”? SHE is the Governor.
She must be doing something to attract all this nasty attention. Like I said, she didn’t have to quit the office. She just had to quit violating ethics. That’s apparently not how she rolls.
Outta here!! Y’all have fun talking to youselves… You do it so well…
I said when McCain picked her that there wasn’t any “there” there.
TOLD ya.
chas: Does this help?
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Membership in the US Military is different and also not clearly defined. According to the
Taliban, one can be a conscripted (and therefore presumably unwilling) member of the US Military
and still be an enemy combatant.
“dO TRY TO KEEP UP, dUH — ERRR… hUD”
More name calling. What’s the matter question too hard?
so, now bj is criticizing Palin for using “we” in a statement? okaaayyyy…
bho, inauguration speech: “That we are in the midst of crisis is now well understood”
same speech, “As we consider the road that unfolds before us, we remember with humble gratitude…”
Presidential announcement, Feb 2007:
“We all made this journey for a reason…”
need I continue? bj will attack anything anyone does, any time and without rational reason. it is sad to see such extremely blind hatred…it really is
The uses of the word we are not out of place in the examples you provide.
Sarah Palin’s use of the word we above if not improper IS suggestive.
What were “we” doing that attracted all the ethics investigations?
Who else are we getting rid of up in Alaska when “we” resign?
I must have missed The Phantom DJIA report for today.
DJIA closed today at 8163.60.
20 Jan 2009 — Opened at 8279.63
And of course you missed the Bush crash, Hud……
From over 14,000 to 7,000 – nice job, George.
Oh I get it WSClark, Obama is doing better than Bush because the stock markets are still crashing.
Still loosing money, but it “feels” good now, heh?
“Oh I get it WSClark, Obama is doing better than Bush because the stock markets are still crashing.”
If you are going to criticize Obama for a 120 point drop in the Dow during his tenure, then you have to be honest and place an appropriate amount of blame on Bush (your Republican friend) for his record setting crash of the Index.
Or, are you going to say that George W Bush was a RINO and not a true conservative?
Perhaps you can echo Mr. Johnson’s comments from yesterday and suggest that George was a closet Marxist.
“Still loosing money”
And that would be “LOSING money,” AmWay.
Lose is when something is LOST.
Loose is when your pants fall down because you have LOST weight.
Or, are you going to say that George W Bush was a RINO and not a true conservative?
Everybody knew Bush was a RINO before he was elected.
Where have you been?
CANT YOU STAY ON PPINT??- Cha-Cha-Chas
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Pass me a pint, ole buddy!
WSClark, when are you going to stop living in the past and blaming Bush for everything Obama does wrong? Or when are you going to stop comparing Obama to Bush?
If I had 100 dollars in the market on the day Obama took office, and it was my very first 100 dollars ever invested – I LOST MONEY!!!!!!
No one to blame but THE ONE.
Go ahead, say “Bush did it!” or “Bush did it too!”.
Makes no difference. History is Obama’s now.
He is failing miserably.
Galloway on McNamara: Reading an obit with great pleasure
By Joseph L. Galloway |
“I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure.” —Clarence Darrow (1857–1938)
Well, the aptly named Robert Strange McNamara has finally shuffled off to join LBJ and Dick Nixon in the 7th level of Hell.
McNamara was the original bean-counter — a man who knew the cost of everything but the worth of nothing.
Back in 1990 I had a series of strange phone conversations with McNamara while doing research for my book We Were Soldiers Once And Young. McNamara prefaced every conversation with this: “I do not want to comment on the record for fear that I might distort history in the process.” Then he would proceed to talk for an hour, doing precisely that with answers that were disingenuous in the extreme — when they were not bald-faced lies.
Upon hanging up I would call Neil Sheehan and David Halberstam and run McNamara’s comments past them for deconstruction and the addition of the truth.
The only disagreement i ever had with Dave Halberstam was over the question of which of us hated him the most. In retrospect, it was Halberstam.
When McNamara published his first book — filled with those distortions of history — Halberstam, at his own expense, set out on a journey following McNamara on his book tour around America as a one-man truth squad.
McNamara abandoned the tour.
The most bizarre incident involving McNamara occurred when he was president of the World Bank and, off on his summer holiday, he caught the Martha’s Vineyard ferry. It was a night crossing in bad weather. McNamara was in the salon, drink in hand, schmoozing with fellow passengers. On the deck outside a vineyard local, a hippie artist, glanced through the window and did a double-take. The artist was outraged to see McNamara, whom he viewed as a war criminal, so enjoying himself.
He immediately opened the door and told McNamara there was a radiophone call for him on the bridge. McNamara set down his drink and stepped outside. The artist immediately grabbed him, wrestled him to the railing and pushed him over the side. McNamara managed to get his fingers through the holes in the metal plate that ran from the top of the railing to the scuppers.
McNamara was screaming bloody murder; the artist was prying his fingers loose one at a time. Someone heard the racket and raced out and pulled the artist off.
By the time the ferry docked in the vineyard McNamara had decided against filing charges against the artist, and he was freed and walked away.
Anti! (TA-DA!)
You lousy fisherman finally show up and I have to leave. Darn it. I needed some laughs today.
Now all I got is the sad, sad, whiney lib posts to reflect on.
And please don’t address Chas after he has said good night and wished us WHATEVER for the night.
He already promises to rise again at least three times on average of his good night speech.
You lousy fisherman finally show up and I have to leave. Darn it. I needed some laughs today.
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Hey, hey, hey!!
Take it easy brother.
Sorry. Got carried away. Too much negative influence today (all these libs and the Michael Jackson thing all day long).
Thought maybe the dog days had gotten to you.
“WSClark, when are you going to stop living in the past and blaming Bush for everything Obama does wrong?”
Where did I say that Bush was at fault for everything Obama (may have) done wrong?
What I stated was that it was hypocritical to criticize Obama for a 120 point drop in the Dow during his tenure, but to ignore a drop from over 14K to under 7K during the Bush II presidency.
Are the Cons denying that the last eight years ever happened?
Should Obama be able to clean up the Bush mess in just six months – a year – two years?
The mess developed over years – it will take years to fix it.
Downtown Master Plan Update
Date: July 7, 2009
Contact: Communications Team
The City of Wichita’s Request For Qualifications (RFQ) seeking design teams to develop a 20-year Downtown Revitalization Master Plan attracted 32 proposals, City officials announced on Tuesday. The RFQ proposals, which had to be submitted by a 5 p.m. deadline on Monday, feature local, regional and national design teams.
Mayor Carl Brewer, who has spearheaded community discussions regarding the future of downtown, said the RFQ responses represent the latest step in creating a pedestrian-friendly environment that makes downtown Wichita a unique and memorable experience, a destination for people of all ages, ethnicities and cultures.
“The high number of RFQ responses reflects the promise of Wichita’s downtown,” Brewer said. “An updated Master Plan will provide cohesive and ambitious development strategies and it will move downtown forward in smart ways that connect and maximize the potential of existing assets such as Old Town, INTRUST Bank Arena and River Corridor Improvements.”
A goal of the Master Plan is to enhance downtown’s status as a destination. Brewer said a further revitalized core area will feature park and open spaces as well as additional retailers, residences, restaurants, office buildings and multiple venues for arts and entertainment. It will help retain young people, families and jobs as well as grow the tax base and make Wichita more competitive with competing cities.
The proposal selection process will be overseen by the Downtown Revitalization Steering Council recently appointed by the Wichita City Council. The RFQ and other related downtown information are available at http://www.wichita.gov. Click on “Mayor’s Downtown Vision” under City Spotlight.
Public and private dollars will help fund the cost of the Master Plan.
Everyone did hear that Michael Jackson died?
He was crucified and buried today. Did ya hear?
I was disappointed I didn’t get selected randomly for free admission to the gruesome affair. I was hoping for top dollar from ebay selling them.
PS: Michael Jackson is dead! We need a stamp made after his image. Maybe with a small child or two in the background. Maybe hanging out a ten story building window…
Everyone did hear that Michael Jackson died?
He was crucified and buried today. Did ya hear?
I was disappointed I didn’t get selected randomly for free admission to the gruesome affair. I was hoping for top dollar from ebay selling them.
PS: Michael Jackson is dead! We need a stamp made after his image. Maybe with a small child or two in the background. Maybe hanging out a ten story building window…
Everyone did hear that Michael Jackson died?
He was crucified and buried today. Did ya hear?
I was disappointed I didn’t get selected randomly for free admission to the gruesome affair. I was hoping for top dollar from ebay selling them.
PS: Michael Jackson is dead! We need a stamp made after his image. Maybe with a small child or two in the background. Maybe hanging out a ten story building window…
“If I had 100 dollars in the market on the day Obama took office, and it was my very first 100 dollars ever invested – I LOST MONEY!!!!!!”
And even the WORST investor knows that the Market is long term – not a quick buck opportunity.
Wait a few years and see how your INVESTMENT turns out.
“hypocritical to criticize Obama”
So. WSCLark intends to spend the NEXT FOUR to EIGHT years posting this same mantra? Over and over again?
But, but, but, Bush did it too!
PS: I was critical of Bush and the republicans in congress. Repeatedly. What’s your excuse? Oh. I know! Bush did it too!
Sorry for the triple post.
But Bush did it too.
“Wait a few years and see how your INVESTMENT turns out.”
So, now WSClark supports the stock market for investing Social Security dollars.
Thought maybe the dog days had gotten to you.
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I’ve just been keepin’ on keepin’ on.
Cast, Cast, Cast, Gotcha!
Live well or Release?
That’s the best way to dodge the MJ barrage!
Michael Jackson is no more.
14 brave young Americans died in Obama’s Afghanistan War since Jackson died.
I haven’t drowned a worm since May. Very jealous.
“So, now WSClark supports the stock market for investing Social Security dollars.”
No, I don’t – I have no idea where you pulled that from, but I never mentioned SS.
“hypocritical to criticize Obama”
Hypocritical to criticize Obama for not FIXING the Bush mess in just six months.
“But, but, but, Bush did it too!”
The Right is still screaming Bill Clinton! Bill Clinton! more than eight years after he left office.
“PS: I was critical of Bush and the republicans in congress.”
When? When it was finally obvious to the Right that Bush II had FU’ed beyond any semblance of decency and competence?
Show me a post from 2003 or 2004 that was critical of Bush II, AmWay.
Just one.
American_Way
Posted July 7, 2009 at 9:24 pm | Permalink
I haven’t drowned a worm since May.
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I don’t think I have either.
I believe the plastic ones are already dead…OK, I used a few live ones to catch bait for flatheads in early June…
Sorry.
If it make you feel better American Way, I may just take the kayak out this weekend and NOT fish due to the heat….But then again…
Sorry, once more, I’ll stop now.
I won’t bone dig. Other posters know the truth. I have been critical of Bush since the socialized FREE medicine for old farts (without a revenue source). Went down hill from there. Iraq was not my cup of tea and I was critical of that too. And I posted butloads before during and after the bailout the democrats shoved down the lameduck presidents throat. They didn’t bother reading that bill either.
I also posted many times about my not voting for Jim Ryun for exmaple – and my support for Boyda – which she lost when she too voted for the very same earmarks Ryun did. And others. I’m a conservative clearly. Not so much hot on the republicans. I’ve posted MANY times that they should drop the religious righteous and move PRO LIFE to background music.
The posts are there, but I’m not going to help you.
You either believe me, or look yourself.
Have you ever posted critical of any democrat?
See. I needed that. Thanx.
Now it’s lights out.
Since the conservatives and Republicans on this blog have disowned GWB, I would like to know who they think is a REAL conservative and a REAL Republican.
Really.
I have yet to see a public figure that they feel meets their criteria for being a REAL Republican and a REAL conservative.
So, who fits the bill?
“Have you ever posted critical of any democrat?”
Yeah.
Have you ever posted critical of any democrat?
BlueJay
Posted July 7, 2009 at 7:55 pm | Permalink
The uses of the word we are not out of place in the examples you provide.
Sarah Palin’s use of the word we above if not improper IS suggestive.
What were “we” doing that attracted all the ethics investigations?
Who else are we getting rid of up in Alaska when “we” resign?
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“We” as in a candidate or official is not just themselves but part of a political team.
But I suppose when you vote for a King you assume all politicians expect to be treated as Royalty.
“You either believe me, or look yourself.”
Believe you? You have got to be kidding. On a purely personal level, you have shown me that the truth and fiction are in the same book, from your perspective.
Dang.
Still waiting, AmWay, for those flashing lights.
I think I’m out as well.
Hope ya get some free time to hit the water American Way, it helps me relax.
Well fishing helps me relax unless, it’s freakin hot as hell, you snag a tree or rock, hook yourself, stab yourself with a fillet knife, run your line into the prop. while someone is paying you to be an ‘expert’, hit a log with the hull, or are in the middle of the lake and have to take a schitt and it’s a holiday weekend and their are 50 jet skis flying around and 15 party barges with college girls in them near by while someone is having trouble loading their boat at the ramp…..
Other than that it is very relaxing.
I forgot having someone’s kid puke on your boat….and you get to clean it up.
“I just wanted to say, ever since I was born my daddy has been the best father you can imagine.” Paris Jackson
Police Say South Carolina Spree Killer Had Long Rap Sheet
Gosh, Revolving Door ‘Justice’ and Bleeding Heart Liberals Release ANOTHER Criminal to the Streets to Murder People
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530292,00.html
Police Say South Carolina Spree Killer Had Long Rap Sheet
GAFFNEY, S.C. — The serial killer who terrorized a South Carolina community by shooting five people to death before police killed him Monday was a career criminal paroled just two months ago, authorities said.
Patrick Burris, 41, was shot to death by officers investigating a burglary complaint at a home in Gastonia, N.C., 30 miles from where the killing spree started June 27. Bullets in his gun matched those that killed residents in and around Gaffney over six days last week, said State Law Enforcement Division Chief Reggie Lloyd.
“Look at this,” Lloyd said, waiving a stapled copy of Burris’ criminal record. “This is like 25 pages. At some point the criminal justice system is going to need to explain why this suspect was out on the street.”
Who says you need to be able to defend yourself?
GOVERNMENT will protect you!
I painted a flathead once.
Maybe we’ll get another Federal Holiday for
M i c h a e l J a c k s o n ! ! !
Sic Pmom.
Take your BJ Sex Stories elsewhere.
Michael Jackson was acquitted x2. I’m on the fence on whether or not he was guilty but the jury of his peers decided there was not enough evidence. Being weird and loving children doesn’t necessarily make you a perv, but it is suspect that he was so rich and the accusers had so much to gain.
As far as sleeping in the same bed, there are a lot of families who believe in the family bed. As a parent, the family bed is reserved for FAMILY members ONLY.
Painting a big fish is a sex story? Dude you’re whacked.
Anyone else notice the Hypocracy of Obama lecturing Russia on Free Markets?
Lectures Russia to be like the US.
Lectures the US to be like Russia.
OBAMA: No. I think that President Medvedev is my counterpart, the president of Russia. The prime minister, who I just met today, obviously still has enormous influence.
Interestingly, nothing Putin said contradicted anything that Medvedev has said. It was consistent. And that is that Russia is still in a transition period. It’s still growing. Still coming out of some of the legacies of the past.
But, for example, the recognition that rule of law is a critical component of economic growth, and that free markets and diversification of the economy are still important. That Russia can’t simply rely on oil exports and gas exports in perpetuity.
Those recognitions are actually ones that I think you will see the Russian government move forward on.
But I do sense that President Medvedev in particular is recognizing that the more that Russia reflects transparency, openness, anti-corruption, rule of law, the better off the Russian people will be.
http://whitehouse.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/07/07/garrett-and-obama-the-transcript/
(Where are the Free Markets and Transparency in America? GONE!)
Relatives of Soldier Killed in Afghanistan Decry Lack of Coverage Amid Jackson Spectacle
A day before New York Rep. Peter King called Michael Jackson a “pervert” unworthy of nonstop media coverage, the aunt of a U.S. soldier killed in Afghanistan on the same day Jackson died asked why her nephew’s death went virtually unnoticed while the King of Pop got memorial shrines across the country.
“Mr. Jackson received days of wall-to-wall coverage in the media,” Martha Gillis wrote to the Washington Post. “Where was the coverage of my nephew or the other soldiers who died that week?”
Gillis’ nephew, Lt. Brian Bradshaw, 24, died in Kheyl, Afganistan, of wounds suffered when an improvised explosive device detonated near his vehicle. Bradshaw, of Steilacoom, Wash., was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 501st Parachute Infantry Regiment, 4th Airborne Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division in Fort Richardson, Alaska. He was one of at least 13 U.S. soldiers to die in Afghanistan since Jackson’s death on June 25.
(Yet there are no Daily Body Counts for troops killed under Obama’s orders.)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530361,00.html
No only you cons with your whacked out beliefs that we’re going to turn you all commies.
JACKSON: We’re going to sleep. I tuck them in, I put a little like music on, do a little story time, read a book. It’s very sweet. Put the fireplace on, give them hot milk. You know, we have little cookies. It’s very charming. Very sweet.
JACKSON: When you say bed, you’re thinking sexual. They make that sexual. It’s not sexual. We’re going to sleep.
http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0302/07/cct.00.html
Seduction
This pattern characterizes the
offender who engages children in sexual
activity by “seducing” them—courting them
with attention, affection, and gifts.
Just as one adult courts another, the pedophile seduces
children over a period of time by gradually
lowering their sexual inhibitions. Frequently
his victims arrive at the point where they are
willing to trade sex for the attention, affection,
and other benefits they receive from the
offender.
The characteristic that seems to make
this individual a master seducer of children is
his ability to identify with them. He knows
how to talk to children—but, more important,
he knows how to listen to them. His adult
status and authority is also an important part
of the seduction process.
In addition, he frequently
selects as targets children who are
victims of emotional or physical neglect. The
biggest problem for this child molester is not
how to obtain child victims but how to get
them to leave after they are too old. This must
be done without the disclosure of the “secret.”
http://www.skeptictank.org/nc70.pdf
Access to children ~ This is one of the most important indicators of a pedophile. The pedophile will surely have a a method of gaining access to children. Other than simply hanging around places children congregate, pedophiles sometimes marry women simply to gain access to children. Pedophiles are frequently the “nice guys” in the neighborhood who like to entertain the children after school or take them on day or weekend trips.
Activities with children, often excluding other adults ~ The pedophile is always trying to get children in situations where there are no other adults present.
Seduces with attention, affection, and gifts ~ This is the most common technique used by pedophiles. They literally seduce the children by befriending them, talking to them, listening to them, paying attention to them, spending time with them, and buying gifts for them. If you understand the courtship process, it should not be difficult to understand why some child victims develop positive feelings for the offender.
Skilled at manipulating children ~ In order to operate a child sex ring involving simultaneous sexual relations with multiple victims, a pedophile must know how to manipulate children. The pedophile uses seduction techniques, competition, peer pressure, child and group psychology, motivation techniques, threats, and blackmail. A skilled pedophile who can get children into a situation where they must change clothing or stay with him overnight will almost always succeed in seducing them.
Has hobbies and interests appealing to children ~ This is another indicator that must be considered for evaluation only in connection with other indicators. Pedophiles might collect toys or dolls, build model planes or boats, or perform as clowns or magicians to attract children.
http://www.operationlookout.org/lookoutmag/good_guy_bad_guy_page_3.htm
Looks like JimJohnson is obessed with child molesting… Oh well… He rants on endlessly about all sorts of BS….
good night; good luck; god bless —
whatever you conceive god to be!!
blessings all!!
blessings on the Jackson Family… may they find that Peace that passes understanding….
so mote it be!!
Michael Jackson confesses:
I sleep with boys
In TV interview, singer obsessed
with children says it’s not sexual
Posted: February 04, 2003
Pop superstar Michael Jackson admitted last night in a television documentary that he loves to have young boys sleep in his bed. What’s more, everyone should do it, says the 44-year-old Jackson.
One 12-year-old boy told Bashir he slept in the singer’s bed. Commenting on that occasion, Jackson said he had slept on the floor that night, feeling he was “four” not 44, reported the Telegraph. “I see God in the face of children,” said Jackson. “And man, I just love being around them all the time.”
Although he claimed only “very few” boys had actually stayed in his bed, Jackson strongly defended the practice, saying: “Why can’t you share your bed? The most loving thing to do, is to share your bed with someone.”
Despite persistent questioning from Bashir, Jackson defended his desire to sleep close to young boys, describing the practice as “very charming” and “very sweet.” In fact, he recommended that the interviewer do likewise, sleeping in the same bed as friends of his own children.
According to Jackson, not only do children like to be touched, but the superstar told Bashir he would kill himself if he could not be close to young boys.
According to the Telegraph report, an uneasy Bashir concluded that Jackson is obsessed with children. But the singer dismissed fears of sexual molestation, saying: “When you say bed, they make that sexual. It’s not sexual. We’re going to sleep.
“I tuck them in and put a little like, er, music on and when it’s story time I read a book and we go to sleep with the fireplace on. I give them hot milk, you know. We have cookies. It’s very charming. It’s very sweet. It’s what the whole world should do.
“If there were no children on this earth, if someone announced all kids were dead, I would jump off the balcony immediately.”
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30853
11/12/03 – East Texas
KLTV EXCLUSIVE: Former Preacher/Child Molester Released
(Did he move to Kansas?)
http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1522737
A former teacher and pastor, who admitted to molesting more than 40 children, is free, after serving only four years in jail. Fifty-seven-year-old Kenneth Ward is now at a Dallas halfway house. The mother of one victim says she’ll fight to change the law against pedophiles.
Stephanie Burt’s idea of security was shattered when she learned what Kenneth Eugene Ward had done to her son, Tommy, when he was only seven years old. In a signed confession, Ward admitted to molesting Tommy for about three years. There were similar acts with dozens of other boys. Most of those parents, like Stephanie, didn’t find out about the abuse until more than a decade after the fact.
Johnson’s ZERO credibility shrinks with each post… into total irrelevancy… WHY do you hve such HATE in your life, Johnson??
Police have arrested Billy Masters, 66, reportedly the preacher at Harvest Baptist Church for first-degree sexual abuse of a 12-year-old boy. What is remarkable is that Masters previously was convicted and served time for sodomy of a child.
In 2001, Masters was reportedly convicted of sodomy against three male victims. He pleaded guilty to three counts of sodomy and one count of sexual abuse. He was sentenced to 15 years for each sodomy charge and 10 years for the sexual abuse count. Because they ran concurrently, he was released in 2007.
Perhaps someone can explain how such a man becomes a preacher again working with children.
http://www.uslaw.com/library/Legal_Commentary/Laying_Hands_Upon_ExChild_Molester_Becomes_Preacher_Molests_Children.php?item=484588