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Enjoy making Republicans run and hide? It’s easy, just ask them whether or not they believe Obama was born in the United States (for the cons who fail at everything, yes, Hawaii is a state in the Union).
http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/07/mike-stark-know-your-birthers/
That’s just how ashamed someone is to be a birther.
The House voted unanimously to pass a resolution honoring the 50th anniversary of Hawaii’s statehood and recognized Hawaii as Obama’s birthplace.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/27/house-to-consider-counter_n_245741.html
Yeah, even the Republicans had to come out and admit they didn’t want to be associated with the birther movement anymore.
Ahhh….let’s hear it for the 40+ people including mostly Democratic mayors and state represntatives arrested in New Jersey on charges of fraud.
Based on some of the “logic” shown on this forum, that could lead me to say something about ALL Democrats are crooks, right? I do not make such simplistic and ridiculous generalizations, however.
“representatives” spelling can be a challenge before enough coffee….
“Raptor” –
I think it would be a more accurate assessment to believe every politician in Jersey is corruption. The only reason the most recent sweep had more Democrats is the Repubic Party pols are in the pokey, thanks to 2005’s “Operation Bid Rig” which led to the arrest in 2005 of at least 11 New Jersey Republicans.
Sometimes you should refrain from posting about issues you know nothing about. Albeit, we’ll miss you.
ahhh…i understand. your “defense” of the current string of arrests is to point and say “they did it first”…
so, two wrongs DO make a right in your mind?
No, “Raptor” –
It isn’t a “they did it first” argument. It’s simply an observation they always do that in New Jersey.
It’s in their DNA.
For all I know, if you go back through a few dozen political corruption cases in Jersey it may very well have been Democrats who “did it first.”
In the meantime, just about every “reform” government has been been corrupted in New Jersey. The closest you can possibly project from my post is, “They all do it.” In Jersey anyway.
Probably most places, I dunno.
But they’re oddly comfortable about in in New Jersey. That’s just the way it is.
I think Mark Sanford was a family “values” poser who lived at the C Street house while boinking his Argentinian hottie. That doesn’t mean I think everyone at C Street house has a South American bombshell to boink. (Who would boink Brownback, Tiahrt, or Moran anyway?)
I was merely pointing out your particular party partisanship exposed when you felt to cite the recent New Jersey corruption round-up.
I was pointing out how you have no idea what you’re writing about.
I wasn’t “defending” the latest bout of Jersey scofflaws, merely providing you some historical perspective.
while I appreciate the history lesson, I fear you missed my initial point. That being that there are many people on this forum that will find ONE example of malfeance by someone in one party, and immediate describe the entire political party as criminal.
I was referring to the ridiculous and very common practice of making gross exaggerations and generalizations.
More and More Americans Killed in War
July 27, 2009
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DoD Identifies Army Casualty
The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.
Spc. Justin D. Coleman, 21, of Spring Hill, Fla., died July 24 in Nuristan Province, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked his unit using small arms and rocket-propelled grenade fires. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 32nd Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division (Light Infantry), Fort Drum, N.Y.
O’Bama, When Will You Stop The Killing?
More and More Americans Killed in War
July 27, 2009
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DoD Identifies Marine Casualty
The Department of Defense announced today the death of a Marine who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.
Pfc. Donald W. Vincent, 26, of Gainesville, Fla., died July 25 of wounds sustained while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 2nd Battalion, 8th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
O’Bama, When Will You Stop The Killing?
“The report by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said the public option proposed by Democrats would not drive private insurers out of business and most people would still choose to get their medical coverage through employers.
The public option has come under heavy fire from Republicans who say it will devastate the private insurance industry.”
Looks like more baseless hyperbole from the rw has been debunked, not that it’ll matter to the faithful.
Looks like the Democrats are STILL trying to blame the Republicans for not being able to pass the ObamaCare plan they wanted.
You have the majority in Congress & the White House Dems, yet you still blame SOMEBODY ELSE for YOUR FAILURES!
Wonder if the CBO cited UPS as a case in point?
“Jim Johnson” we all mourn loses of US troops in the field. Are you suggesting a solution for this, or just using the dead for making partisan attacks on the President?
God is great.
Beer is good.
People are crazy.
soldevvb posted July 27, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Natural climate factors alone do not explain the observed data.
So sayeth the warmomger alarmists.
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No. . . so sayeth the observed data.
Somebody tell cosMo it’s July 28th and he lost that argument yesterday.
“Raptor” –
This ain’t my first internet rodeo.
Most of the time when someone claims, “You missed my point,” it’s because they did a lousy job of expressing said “point.”
cosMo,
It’s July 28th and he lost that argument yesterday.
“JimJohnson” dances on the graves of brave American fighting men and women who die in a war George WMD Bush instigated then abandoned.
Do like Shrub, “JimJohnson,” and divert your outrage to Iraq. There are 4,500 Americans’ graves you can dance on. It can be your summer road trip.
soldevvb posted July 28, 2009 at 9:08 am
cosMo,
It’s July 28th and he lost that argument yesterday.
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Yes. . . donndublin lost that argument yesterday.
cosmos_originally posted July 27, 2009 at 2:15 pm
donndublin posted July 27, 2009 at 1:37 pm
cosMo, you would fail at both points,. . .
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Yes, I would. And so would Dr. Lindzen, outlander, and donndublin.
donndublin is extra “slow” today.
SolDevVB
Posted July 28, 2009 at 8:44 am | Permalink
God is great.
Beer is good.
People are crazy.
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cosmos_originally
Posted July 28, 2009 at 9:01 am | Permalink
soldevvb posted July 27, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Natural climate factors alone do not explain the observed data.
So sayeth the warmomger alarmists.
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No. . . so sayeth the observed data
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And some people are just waaaaaaaaaay too self important.
And some people, like soldevvb, are so deep in denial they cannot even understand the observed data.
donndublin,
I really enjoyed your argument that I would fail at making the same two points that I was claiming you AGW science deniers could not make.
That was silly and funny. . .
cosmo,
Look, you have your religion and your faith. Bully for you. You can’t force that on anyone else. There are more unknowns about climate than there are knowns. Proof of that are the ever failing climate models.
You can come on here and try to pick fights all you like. Your politically selected and motivated IPCC has about as much relevance to realists as the bible has to maggot.
So flail away cosmo. The world is not ending. We are not going to burn up. If you choose to keep believing that, bully for you. But your contrived superiority here is laughable. Your monotonous single issue ranting is all but an annoyance anymore.
3000 low record temperatures set in July!
http://current.com/items/90531768_3000-low-record-temperatures-set-in-july.htm
Here’s some “observed data” for you cos.
Watch the AGW alarmists cover their ears and sing la la la and say (if you cherry pick the numbers) it was the nth warmest July on record.
Unusually cold in July in the Northeast quadrant
Unusually hot in the South West
Yes this could be an indicator of global climate disruptions… Thanks.
cosMo, I enjoyed showing that your argument was an idiotic attempt to appear you know something about real science. Those of us who have a real scientific background see right through your ruse.
donndublin posted July 28, 2009 at 9:36 am
3000 low record temperatures set in July!
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Here’s some “observed data” for you cos.
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donndublin,
Now go get some “observed data” from Texas.
And will donndublin ever understand that small regions do not = “global”?
When criminals in this world appear,
And break the laws that they should fear,
And frighten all who blog or squak,
The cry goes up both far and near for
Monkeyhawk!
MONKEYHAWK!
Monkeyhawk!
MONKEYHAWK!
Speed of lightning, bane of “Boxlock,”
Fighting all who quote right-wing talk!
Monkeyhawk!
Monkeyhawk!
When in this world the headlines read
Of those whose hearts are filled with greed
And rob and steal from those in need.
To right this wrong with blinding speed comes
Monkeyhawk!
MONKEYHAWK!
Wit of lightning! Foe of CON-talk!
Fighting all reduced to blog-talk
Monkeyhawk!
MONKEYHAWK!
(There’s no need to fear…)
soldevvb posted July 28, 2009 at 9:33 am
So flail away cosmo. The world is not ending. We are not going to burn up. If you choose to keep believing that, bully for you.
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Where did I ever post that we are going to “burn up”?
soldevvb cannot make rational, fact-based arguments, so he instead posts lies.
Thank you for proving my point, yet again, cos.
I proved that soldevvb cannot make rational, fact-based arguments, so he instead posts lies.
And will donndublin ever understand that small regions do not = “global”?
Something cos has a really hard time understanding. Regions make up the globe. Weather makes up climate.
How very unscientific of you.
Now you just sound silly.
Which lie have I posted cos? What is the end result of an ever warming globe?
Are you really this desperate for a fight cos? Cause you are sounding more shrill today than usual.
Earth will burn up, but not for about nine billion years, when the sun goes red giant…
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DavidB
Posted July 28, 2009 at 9:46 am | Permalink
Unusually cold in July in the Northeast quadrant
Unusually hot in the South West
Yes this could be an indicator of global climate disruptions… Thanks.
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This is perfect example of cherry picking. It downplays “record cold” and equates it with “unusually hot” while ignoring that most of those 3000 record cold temps were in the SE quadrant.
And, for the record cos, what you have proven is that you are a shrill alarmist. A monotonous bore with little more than talking points from rc. You have no arguments. When faced with science, you have no rebuttal that isn’t canned for you by rc. You simply deflect with “How many other scientists agree” or some other drivel.
You are weak. Your faith is weak. You have no science other than what rc has canned for you.
You have a pathetic life. Look at you! All you can do is try to pick fights on a blog over the same topic day in and day out.
What is it like to have only one thing in your life? One thing that fades and grows weaker with every passing year? What will you do when global warming is shown to be the farce that it is?
How sad for you. What a pathetic existence.
I’m not sure which portion of a revolving orb constitutes the “southeast quadrant” of the globe.
Care to explain that to us, “donndublin?”
DavidB
Posted July 28, 2009 at 9:46 am | Permalink
Unusually cold in July in the Northeast quadrant
Unusually hot in the South West
Yes this could be an indicator of global climate disruptions… Thanks.
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You’re picking the wrong fight monkey. Your super powers fading?
soldevvb posted July 28, 2009 at 10:00 am
Which lie have I posted cos? What is the end result of an ever warming globe?
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LOL!
soldevvb answered his question in his 1st sentence with his 2nd sentence.
AGW science does not project “an ever warming globe”.
And soldevvb. . . thank you for the personal attacks, which help prove your denial and ignorance of AGW science.
soldevvb posted July 28, 2009 at 9:59 am
And will donndublin ever understand that small regions do not = “global”?
Something cos has a really hard time understanding. Regions make up the globe.
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I understand very well that “regions make up the globe”.
But you should not pick one region (and ignore all of the other regions) and claim that it represents “global” — which is what donndublin implied upthread.
On this date, Jul 28th:
1586 Sir Thomas Harriot introduces potatoes to Europe
1868 14th Amendment ratified, citizenship to exslaves
1900 Hamburger created by Louis Lassing in Connecticut
1930 – The temperature at Greensburg, KY, soared to 114 degrees to set a state record. (The Weather Channel)
1934 – The temperature at Grofino, ID, climbed to 118 degrees to establish a record for Idaho. (The Weather Channel)
1943 – Britain bombed Hamburg, killing 42,000 German citizens. In just 43 minutes, 2,326 tons of bombs were dropped.
1959 Hawaii’s 1st US election sends 1st Asian-Americans to Congress
1977 1st oil flow through the Alaska pipeline
2061 31st recorded perihelion passage of Halley’s Comet
“Few men have virtue to withstand the highest bidder.”
– George Washington
Vote early and vote often.
– Al Capone
He had had much experience of physicians, and said “the only way to keep your health is to eat what you don’t want, drink what you don’t like, and do what you’d druther not.
– Mark Twain
The average American household income is $45,000.
Rank-and-File congress member’s average salary is $174,000
Why don’t the congressional members receive the average American income? Provided by the State they represent? Why don’t we let their constituents determine what pay their representative receives?
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/uscongress/a/congresspay.htm
Who in their right mind gave congress the ability to vote for their own salary and benefits?
Why does a congressperson receive their full salary for life after serving only one term?
Why do they receive platinum level insurance?
Why do they not have to pay into social security?
They are, after all, merely part time employees. I take that back. They are servants. They are in position to serve the needs of their constituents. When did they become ever so much more than simply a representative of their constituents?
America has problems true enough. And look at the position we’ve granted those that we count on to solve the problems. Hell the majority of our problems were CREATED by these people.
Wake up America. It’s time to take your country back.
donndublin posted July 28, 2009 at 9:36 am
3000 low record temperatures set in July!
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cosmos_originally Posted July 28, 2009 at 9:46 am | Permalink
Now go get some “observed data” from Texas.
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cosmos_originally Posted July 28, 2009 at 10:25 am | Permalink
I understand very well that “regions make up the globe”.
But you should not pick one region (and ignore all of the other regions) and claim that it represents “global” — which is what donndublin implied upthread.
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OK, so you really are ret@rded then.
And soldevvb. . . thank you for the personal attacks, which help prove your denial and ignorance of AGW science.
WTF?
OK, severely ret@rded. Keep up the monotony cos, you prove my point daily. Pathetic.
soldevvb posted July 28, 2009 at 10:41 am | Permalink
donndublin posted July 28, 2009 at 9:36 am
3000 low record temperatures set in July!
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cosmos_originally Posted July 28, 2009 at 9:46 am | Permalink
Now go get some “observed data” from Texas.
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cosmos_originally Posted July 28, 2009 at 10:25 am | Permalink
I understand very well that “regions make up the globe”.
But you should not pick one region (and ignore all of the other regions) and claim that it represents “global” — which is what donndublin implied upthread.
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OK, so you really are ret@rded then.
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No, I told donndublin at 9:46 am to not pick only one region, and ignore all of the other regions.
That concept seems to be too complicated for soldevvb to understand. . .
No, I told donndublin at 9:46 am to not pick only one region, and ignore all of the other regions.
And then you tell him to look at data from a subset – an even smaller region.
Ret@rded.
Why I even bother with blog Bluto SolDevVBullwinkle I don’t know.
Cosmos suggested that using regional data sets is not as valuable as looking at the aggregate of regions as a whole. As a response, he suggested the troll donndublin look at a region in Texas. To imply that cosmos was using one small data point to argue against another is to miss the point (and I suspect it is intentional in this case). The point is that one can find regional data points to make any argument with regards to climate change.
The reality is, the best qualified scientists and associations made up of relevant scientists (such as the National Academy of Sciences), who do not have a political ideological ax to grind, continue to take AGW seriously as supported by best available evidence. And using junior high insults like the “r” word is not going to change that reality.
Cap’n Save-A-Hoe toooo the rescue!
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SolDevVB
Posted July 28, 2009 at 10:37 am | Permalink
The average American household income is $45,000.
Rank-and-File congress member’s average salary is $174,000
Why don’t the congressional members receive the average American income? Provided by the State they represent? Why don’t we let their constituents determine what pay their representative receives?
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/uscongress/a/congresspay.htm
Who in their right mind gave congress the ability to vote for their own salary and benefits?
Why does a congressperson receive their full salary for life after serving only one term?
Why do they receive platinum level insurance?
Why do they not have to pay into social security?
They are, after all, merely part time employees. I take that back. They are servants. They are in position to serve the needs of their constituents. When did they become ever so much more than simply a representative of their constituents?
America has problems true enough. And look at the position we’ve granted those that we count on to solve the problems. Hell the majority of our problems were CREATED by these people.
Wake up America. It’s time to take your country back.
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Nine-term Rep. Ron Paul from Tejas might have the answer to your questions.
Global cooling in July for Chicago. Record setting or should we blame it on global warming? Climate change we can not control.
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/chicago.coldest.july.2.1103959.html
An interesting perspective. Read, discuss . . .
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So, if health is the absence of abnormality, the only way to know you are healthy is to become a customer.
But healthy people aren’t great customers; they’re like the people who pay off their entire credit card balance each month. The money is in those in whom an abnormality can be found.
The medical-industrial complex has made that relatively easy to do.
It develops diagnostic technologies able to find smaller and smaller abnormalities. So more and more of us are found to have damaged cartilage in our knees, bulging discs in our backs, and narrowed blood vessels throughout our bodies. And far too many are also found to have “spots” or “shadows” that are seldom significant but are said to be “worrisome.” So more and more of us have knee surgery, back surgery, angioplasty and more diagnostic investigation.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/28/health/views/28essa.html?_r=1&ref=health
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Thoughts, anyone?
Not so much an answer, Daniel, but actions. He has turned down the health care and retirement for sure. Not 100% on the salary, but I believe he returns it. I know he returns money every year from his budget.
soldevvb posted July 28, 2009 at 10:59 am
No, I told donndublin at 9:46 am to not pick only one region, and ignore all of the other regions.
And then you tell him to look at data from a subset – an even smaller region.
Ret@rded.
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soldevvb,
Enlighten us — what percentage of “global” is the entire area of the “lower 48″ United States?
And re donndublin’s earlier link,
http://www.accuweather.com/mt-news-blogs.asp?blog=weathermatrix&partner=&pgUrl=/mtweb/content/weathermatrix/archives/2009/07/1000_low_temp_records_set_this_july.asp
“A FEW CLARIFICATIONS FOR DRUDGE READERS:
1. The article was not meant to be a commentary on Climate Change or Global Warming . . .”
None of anti-abortion sites I just scanned are covering the Roeder trial! Curious.
george posted July 28, 2009 at 11:50 am
Climate change we can not control.
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. . . in george’s opinion.
But in reality, humans have already caused climate change.
cosmos_originally
Posted July 28, 2009 at 9:46 am | Permalink
. . .
donndublin,
Now go get some “observed data” from Texas.
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Enlighten us — what percentage of “global” is the entire area of
the “lower 48? United StatesTexas?‘Texas Scorched by Worst Drought in 50 Years‘
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124872939604384837.html
I hope that July 2009 isn’t as cold as June 2009 was. /sarcasm OFF
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2009/jun/jun09.html
In 2006, 1.93% of all households had annual incomes exceeding $250,000. 12.3% fell below the federal poverty threshold[6] and the bottom 20% earned less than $19,178.
The aggregate income distribution is highly concentrated towards the top, with the top 6.37% earning roughly one third of all income, and those with upper-middle incomes control a large, though declining, share of the total earned income.
Income inequality in the United States, which had decreased slowly after World War II until 1970, began to increase in the 1970s until reaching a peak in 2006. It declined a little in 2007. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States
More interesting reading. What is really “in the weeds” of the health care bill:
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5 freedoms you’d lose in health care reform
If you read the fine print in the Congressional plans, you’ll find that a lot of cherished aspects of the current system would disappear.
By Shawn Tully, editor at large
July 24, 2009: 10:17 AM ET
NEW YORK (Fortune) — In promoting his health-care agenda, President Obama has repeatedly reassured Americans that they can keep their existing health plans — and that the benefits and access they prize will be enhanced through reform.
A close reading of the two main bills, one backed by Democrats in the House and the other issued by Sen. Edward Kennedy’s Health committee, contradict the President’s assurances. To be sure, it isn’t easy to comb through their 2,000 pages of tortured legal language. But page by page, the bills reveal a web of restrictions, fines, and mandates that would radically change your health-care coverage.
http://money.cnn.com/2009/07/24/news/economy/health_care_reform_obama.fortune/index.htm
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The five, BTW, for those of you who will not click over and read for yourself:
1) Freedom to choose what’s in your plan
2) Freedom to be rewarded for healthy living, or pay your real costs
3) Freedom to choose high-deductable coverage
4) Freedom to keep your existing plan
5) Freedom to choose your doctors
Read for yourself . . .
“that would radically change your health-care coverage.”
WHAT health care coverage?
WHAT health care coverage?
The health care coverage most adults work for. Not everyone has a hand out to the government.
soldevvb,
Have you been ranting about some cool temperatures in a part of our tiny 2% of “global”, because you want to ignore what’s happening out in the Pacific?
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090709_elnino.html
Extremists are even saying that the fine print in the eliminates private insurance coverage. Sorry, but this claim does not even pass the smell test.
cos,
Have you been harping about Texas because you are, well, just pointless?
Oh, and about that scorcher of a June…
A continued downtrend in the middle of summer? Say it ain’t so…
http://www.drroyspencer.com/library/pics/UAH_LT_since_1979.jpg
Record-high heat and record-low rainfall has pushed south and central Texas into the region’s deepest drought in a half century, with $3.6 billion of crop and livestock losses piling up during the past nine months. About 230 public water systems to declare mandatory water restrictions.
While Texas bakes, much of the Midwest is experiencing its coolest July on record and expecting bumper crops.
Curious… Global Weirding?
The reality is, the best qualified scientists and associations made up of relevant scientists (such as the National Academy of Sciences), who do not have a political ideological ax to grind, continue to take AGW seriously as supported by best available evidence. And using junior high insults like the “r” word is not going to change that reality. – Agnatha
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You are very naive to think such.
Science Academies as Political Advocates
http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/admin/publication_files/resource-1764-2005.34.pdf
The Second Golden Rule: Those who have the Gold, Rule.
Curious… Global Weirding?
What’s weird is that some elitists think that by getting rich on carbon credits, they can control the climate.
soldevvb posted July 28, 2009 at 12:58 pm
cos,
Have you been harping about Texas because you are, well, just pointless?
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soldevvb is “slow”. . .
Texas is part of the lower 48 states, and a part of “global” — just like the area mentioned in donndublin’s (Drudge inspired) link.
July 2009 temperatures for the lower 48 states will probably be near “average”.
cosmos_originally
Posted July 28, 2009 at 12:13 pm | Permalink
‘Texas Scorched by Worst Drought in 50 Years‘
cosmo can’t even get out of her own way. What percentage of global is Texas?
DavidB posted July 28, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Record-high heat and record-low rainfall has pushed south and central Texas into the region’s deepest drought in a half century, with $3.6 billion of crop and livestock losses piling up during the past nine months. About 230 public water systems to declare mandatory water restrictions.
While Texas bakes, much of the Midwest is experiencing its coolest July on record and expecting bumper crops.
Curious… Global Weirding?
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Global Weirding is a good label for it.
The Hadley cell has been widening.
The National Academy of Science Hoax on Global Warming
The ‘jawless fish’ appears to have great admiration for the National Academy of Science and its view on Global Warming.
Here’s the inside story of how Liberal Agenda has infiltrated hallowed science with alarmists and hoaxers.
Amanda Staudt, ranking member of the National Wildlife Federation part of the polar bear hugging alarmist group – helped the NAS write a brochure on Global Warming.
Nancy Huddleston, Senior Communications Officer
Division on Earth and Life Studies, The National Academies of Sciences, with a degree in Biology (yes, we know that Biologists do atmospheric science – cough) – also helped the NAS on the Global Warming brochure.
F. Sherwood Rowland, the atmospheric chemist from the University of California, Irvine, the chair of the Board on Atmospheric Sciences and Climate, is on record as saying he thinks CO2 will go to 1000 ppm. That is a clear bias toward alarmism.
Hahahaha! There isn’t enough fossil fuel in the world to generate the 1000 ppm in anthropogenic CO2
Raymond T. Pierrehumbert, Professor of Geophysical Sciences,University of Chicago, another board member but also connected to RealClimate. He was a lead author on the IPCC Third Assesment He’s hardly neutral.
Yeah, another biased alarmist who has infiltrated the NAS. A RealClimate dot ORG groupie as well.
So this is what the ‘jawless fish’ parades as part of the package of credibility from the National Academy of Science.
Tree-huggers, a biology major, an atmospheric chemist who states the impossible (1000 ppm co2) and a deep insider of the IPCC and that alarmist blog of RealClimate dot ORG.
Is it any wonder that we DO NOT take the ‘jawless fish’s’ posts with any seriousness.
Real credible scientists, only if you hold your nose!
polar bear hugging alarmist group WHAHAHAHAH!!!!
More comedians!!!
Talking on a cell phone while driving increases the risk of a crash but not nearly as much as text messaging while behind the wheel, according to a report released on Tuesday.
The report by the Virginia Tech Transportation Institute (VTTI) found that texting while driving increased the risk of a crash or a near crash by more than 23 times.
“Text messaging on a cell phone was associated with the highest risk of all cell phone related tasks,” the VTTI said. “The tasks that draw the driver’s eyes away from the forward roadway were those with the highest risk.”
Gad, this takes a study?
Nothing would make me happier than definitive proof that global warming isn’t happening.
The CON side needs to set up the same academic standards that the PRO side has to make their claims authoritative.
Otherwise, they just come off as “there’s no evidence smoking gives you cancer” of 60’s tobacco apologists. Just look at all the people smoking who don’t have cancer.
http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/28/era-of-trans-arctic-shipping-nigh/?hp
Meanwhile, this greets us in today’s NY Times,
Since 1553, when Sir Hugh Willoughby led an expedition north in search of a sea passage over Russia to the Far East, mariners have dreamed of such a shortcut. (Willoughby and his crew, apparently asphyxiated by carbon monoxide after sealing up their boat against brutal cold, froze to death.)
In part because of warming and the retreat and thinning of Arctic sea ice in summer, this northern sea route is slowly becoming a reality. Russian vessels have long hauled ore and oil along the country’s sprawling northern coast, but no commercial ships under other flags have passed between Asia and Western Europe. Now, a German company, the Beluga Group of Bremen, has a ship poised to make what appears to be the first such trip, an 8,000-mile shortcut compared with alternate routes. The “ Arctic Rush” is on.
The report by the Virginia Tech Transportation Institute is evidence based. Sure, it is commonsense that texting and cellphone use can contribute to crashes. But if one is making laws, it is commonsense to have actual quantitative data. You know.. evidence. Evidence is much in vogue these days.
OMGorsh! This is funny.
William Shatner reading Sarah Palin’s farewall speech as a beatnik poem with bass and bongos.
Check it out.
http://www.tonightshowwithconanobrien.com/video/clips/shatner-does-palin-072709/1139665
Did you forget the land bridge Capn? You know that stretch of land from Asia to Alaska where primitive man walked across, there was no ice.
Or how about Antarctica, which rests upon, you guessed it land.
How did the Vikings accomplish farming in Greenland if it was always frozen?
We can await the next mammoth tusk to be dug up on Kellogg construction to show that Climate not only radically changes, it changes with an abruptness that eradicates entire species.
But let’s do raise taxes and the cost of everything because anthropogenic co2 MAY cause it to get warmer. And this will accomplish what when mother nature decides to set her shoulder and push the next natural climate change that man will have absolutely no control over.
DavidB
Posted July 28, 2009 at 1:47 pm | Permalink
The report by the Virginia Tech Transportation Institute is evidence based. Sure, it is commonsense that texting and cellphone use can contribute to crashes. But if one is making laws, it is commonsense to have actual quantitative data. You know.. evidence. Evidence is much in vogue these days.”
Well, I would suggest that you spend your OWN money to confirm the obvious, not someone else’s. Of course, spending someone else’s money is much in vogue these days.
I dunno about Vikings–I think on the coasts, the ocean moderates the temperature. That’s why Juno doesn’t look like Nome.
But the land bridge was caused by massive amounts of water tied up as ice.
Meaning, it was a lot colder then than it is now.
Doesn’t exactly help your thesis . . .
I guess we could put an end to university research.. if you think that’s a good idea…
LJ–
I agree that conclusion was maddeningly simple-minded.
But there is benefit, I think, in quantifying the risk.
How much more likely is it that texting will lead to an accident.
If you have 50 people texting and driving at any one time in Wichita city limits, how many more wrecks and to what severity would those wrecks likely be?
That’s helpful information to determine how serious the risk is and how strong the laws against it should be.
Sorry, David.
I just now read your post.
Great minds think alike.
DavidB
Posted July 28, 2009 at 2:02 pm | Permalink
I guess we could put an end to university research.. if you think that’s a good idea”
Never said anything like that, but you go ahead…
CapnAmerica-
“That’s helpful information to determine how serious the risk is and how strong the laws against it should be.”
Perhaps, although the logic behind fines for violations doesn;t necessarily follow that logic, it seems to me.
A doctor responds to Krugman’s article about gov’t run health care:
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/why-markets-cant-cure-healthcare/?apage=7#comment-204835
I quit practicing medicine in 2003 at the age of 43. Burned out. Like most doctors I went into medicine with a lot of idealism. The first half of my medical career was in the Army (they paid for my medical education). The second half was in private practice.
In the Army system, a single payer system, I was free to focus my attention on patient care, as were my colleagues. Conversations between doctors revolved around the latest medical research on how to best care for our patients. I never thought about how much money a particular treatment option for a patient would earn for me – I was paid a salary and it was the same no matter what treatment options I chose. I never had to deal with getting an insurance company to pay me for my medical services after I had already given them. I never had to argue with an insurance company after they denied my treatment plan for a patient as “medically unnecessary.”
In private practice I was horrified to see how money was the driving force behind everything doctors did (do). Doctors talked with each other about opening their own specialty clinics to capture fees that had previously gone to hospitals. Over the years the discussions at medical conferences began to devote less time to the science behind new innovations and more time to teaching doctors how to make money with the new innovations.
Worst of all, I saw patients routinely suffer from unnecessary, expensive, and often harmful treatment interventions that were clearly chosen because they earned the most money for the doctor and the hospital.
I even had the bizarre experience of having an insurance company try to convince me to pursue a series of invasive surgical procedures in a particular patient instead of the much less expensive exercise program I had recommended because the series of surgical procedures was in their algorithm for treating the diagnostic code I had assigned the patient and exercise wasn’t.
And, I haven’t even mentioned the problem that since I graduated from medical school in 1985 there has been a huge shift in who finances medical research. It used to be government and universities with an interest in advancing medical knowledge. Today most medical research is financed and directed by pharmaceutical companies and their main objective is getting research data that can be used to market their products – whether the products are really useful or not.
I agree with Dr. Krugman – there is no place for “free market ideas” in medicine – at least not if you want your doctor to actually take care of you.
Monte Ladner, M.D.
there has been a huge shift in who finances medical research. It used to be government and universities with an interest in advancing medical knowledge. Today most medical research is financed and directed by pharmaceutical companies and their main objective is getting research data that can be used to market their products – whether the products are really useful or not.
Because it is essential that America have seven different pharmaceutical drugs for the fatal disease of an eighty-year old male not being able to get a hard on, while treatments for the world-wide scourge of malaria are completely ignored.
CapnAmerica
Posted July 28, 2009 at 2:00 pm | Permalink
I dunno about Vikings–I think on the coasts, the ocean moderates the temperature. That’s why Juno doesn’t look like Nome.
But the land bridge was caused by massive amounts of water tied up as ice.
Meaning, it was a lot colder then than it is now.
Doesn’t exactly help your thesis .
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And the area known as Beringia was called the “land bridge” for exactly what reason?
According to you, it was made of water and ice.
We better notify the researching geologists and change the satellite photos that show land.
“quit practicing medicine in 2003 at the age of 43. Burned out”
Monte Ladner, M.D.
Loser
“In the Army system, a single payer system, I was free to focus my attention on patient care, as were my colleagues”
And free of being sued for malpractice, as were your colleagues.
Well, it was VIrginia Tech that was apparently spending somebody else’s money
And free of being sued for malpractice, as were your colleagues.
No joke. And forget it if you were just sick. You went to sick call, some E-4 followed a flow chart out of a field manual and pronounced you healthy for work while you coughed up a lung and infected the rest of your squad.
Great system. Just ask any service member that had knee or back surgery while on active duty.
DavidB
Posted July 28, 2009 at 2:21 pm | Permalink
Well, it was VIrginia Tech that was apparently spending somebody else’s money”
Well, so what? I ddn;t say anything about ” guess we could put an end to university research”
Now did I. My point was that sometimes, spending money to research the obvious, is a waste of money. If someone wants to spend funds researching the obvious, let them do it on their own dime. That is not an “end to university research” It is a recognition of the fact that those receiving funds from others should be good stewards of those funs.
Here’s real class warfare:
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-china-mob27-2009jul27,0,3235364.story
We had a similar history in America but it involved workers peacefully protesting then mobs, hired by the companies or the government, coming in and shooting at the protesters.
Regular posted July 28, 2009 at 1:54 pm
How did the Vikings accomplish farming in Greenland if it was always frozen?
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LOL!
And Regular, don’t forget to argue that they used to make wine in England. LOL!
How about some nice ice wine from Brazil?
First time in history it has been offered. Wonder if it will be the last?
CapnAmerica posted July 28, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Nothing would make me happier than definitive proof that global warming isn’t happening.
The CON side needs to set up the same academic standards that the PRO side has to make their claims authoritative.
Otherwise, they just come off as “there’s no evidence smoking gives you cancer” of 60’s tobacco apologists.
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Actually, some of the “tobacco apologists” became AGW science deniers.
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cosmos_originally
Posted July 28, 2009 at 2:48 pm | Permalink
Regular posted July 28, 2009 at 1:54 pm
How did the Vikings accomplish farming in Greenland if it was always frozen?
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LOL!
And Regular, don’t forget to argue that they used to make wine in England. LOL!
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I don’t argue, it’s historical fact and documented in ancient Norman and Saxon writings.
The Romans who were in England as 43 A.D. They introduced wine growing, although they were not very successful in the colder and wetter climate – different from the Mediterranean variety of grapes they were used to growing.
Wine making continued at least down to the time of the Normans(1066 A.D.) with over 40 vineyards in England as mentioned in the Domesday Book, although much of what was being produced was for making communion wine for the Eucharist.
A friend of one of my manufacturers made this funny little video…….. she sent it to me.
Night of The Walking Democrats
http://sendables.jibjab.com/view/gDpwNc4I2GghDhKr
Regular posted July 28, 2009 at 1:31 pm
F. Sherwood Rowland, the atmospheric chemist from the University of California, Irvine, the chair of the Board on Atmospheric Sciences and Climate, is on record as saying he thinks CO2 will go to 1000 ppm. That is a clear bias toward alarmism.
Hahahaha! There isn’t enough fossil fuel in the world to generate the 1000 ppm in anthropogenic CO2
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Regular,
1) Prove that there isn’t enough fossil fuel in the world to generate the 1000 ppm in anthropogenic CO2.
2) Did F. Sherwood Rowland say that ONLY humans burning fossil fuels would cause CO2 to rise to 1000 ppm?
NO! The 1000 ppm estimate includes CO2 from natural feedbacks, triggered by AGW.
Regular posted July 28, 2009 at 3:07 pm
And Regular, don’t forget to argue that they used to make wine in England. LOL!
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I don’t argue, it’s historical fact and documented in ancient Norman and Saxon writings.
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It’s also a fact that England makes wine today.
What’s a con to do, the dems have not only targeted derivatives, but also those bastions of commerce, the energy traders!
“WASHINGTON (AP) — With consumers hit by oil price swings, federal regulators may be moving toward imposing limits on speculative energy trading, which some blame for price volatility.
The head of the U.S. agency weighing new curbs on Tuesday faulted “excessive” speculation but also underscored the role of financial investors in helping set fair prices that can benefit consumers.
Actually, some of the “tobacco apologists” became AGW science deniers.”
Actually, some losing politicians(Algore) and political scientists(cosMo) became AGW fanatics.
Greenland, England and the Medieval Warming Period
At that time, the inner regions of the long fjords where the settlements were located were very different from today. Excavations show that there were considerable birch woods with birch trees up to 4 to 6 meters high in the area around the inner parts of the Tunuliarfik- and Aniaaq-fjords, the central area of the Eastern settlement, and the
hills were grown with grass and willow brushes. This was due to the medieval climate optimum.(1) The Norse soon changed the vegetation by cutting down the trees to use as building material and for heating and by extensive sheep and goat grazing during summer and winter. The climate in Greenland was much warmer during the first
centuries of settlement but became increasingly colder in the 14th and 15th centuries with the approaching period of colder weather known as the Little Ice Age.
Wikipedia
1. Medieval Climatic Optimum
Michael E Mann
University of Virginia, Charlottesville, VA, USA
The Medieval Climatic Optimum (also known as the Little Climatic Optimum, Medieval Warm Period, or Medieval Warm Epoch) refers to a period of climatic history during which temperatures in Europe and neighboring regions of the North Atlantic are believed to have been comparable to, or to have even exceeded, those of the late 20th century.
This period is conventionally believed to have occurred from approximately 900–1300 AD, terminating with the more moderate conditions of the 15th century.
Grapes were grown in England several hundred kilometers north of their current limits of growth, and subtropical flora such as fig trees and olive trees grew in regions of Europe (northern Italy and parts of Germany) well north of their current range. Geological evidence indicates that mountain glaciers throughout Europe retreated substantially at this time, relative to the glacial advances of
later centuries (Grove and Switsur)
Note: Michael Mann, the author is the same of the famed “hockey stick chart.’
Evidently, cosmos loves to ridicule anything he doesn’t know the history of or is aware of who did the research. – cosmos loves to have egg of chagrin plastered on his face.
“It’s also a fact that England makes wine today.”
That’s because they import the grapes.
http://www.english-wine.com/history.html
1) Prove that there isn’t enough fossil fuel in the world to generate the 1000 ppm in anthropogenic CO2.
2) Did F. Sherwood Rowland say that ONLY humans burning fossil fuels would cause CO2 to rise to 1000 ppm?
NO! The 1000 ppm estimate includes CO2 from natural feedbacks, triggered by AGW.
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A nice try cosmos, but as usual, you give all BEE ESS and not facts to back up your unscientific and outlandish statements.
I would explain it to you dear, but I doubt you have the brain power to understand what I’m saying to you.
You AGW science deniers better hurry. . .
‘World will warm faster than predicted in next five years, study warns
New estimate based on the forthcoming upturn in solar activity and El Niño southern oscillation cycles is expected to silence global warming sceptics‘
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jul/27/world-warming-faster-study
Like a good AGW alarmist cosMo distorts the facts and stretches the truth. He’s a typical politician.
Ode to Con.
First they came after the derivative markets, and no one said anything, then they came after the energy specualtors, and no on cared, then they came after the ultra rich with bank accounts in Switzerland, and no one cared; then they came after the insurance and health care companies that had been ripping us off for decades, but no one said anything; Finally, they came after my rich corporate masters of the universe, and it was too late!
Regular posted July 28, 2009 at 3:30 pm
1) Prove that there isn’t enough fossil fuel in the world to generate the 1000 ppm in anthropogenic CO2.
2) Did F. Sherwood Rowland say that ONLY humans burning fossil fuels would cause CO2 to rise to 1000 ppm?
NO! The 1000 ppm estimate includes CO2 from natural feedbacks, triggered by AGW.
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A nice try cosmos, but as usual, you give all BEE ESS and not facts to back up your unscientific and outlandish statements.
I would explain it to you dear, but I doubt you have the brain power to understand what I’m saying to you.
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Translation: Regular cannot support his 1:31 pm post.
Just like Regular cannot support his lie that the Sierra Club “screwed” the New Orleans levees.
Regular has zero credibility.
donndublin,
I really enjoyed your very dumb argument that I would fail at making the same two points that I was claiming you AGW science deniers could not make.
Of course, cosmos reference the Guardian, a British Tabloid well known for its extraterrestrial and Loch Ness stories.
What’s interesting is the opening paragraph of cosmos tabloid article.
Let’s title it –
It’s the Sun Stupid!
The world faces record-breaking temperatures as the sun’s activity increases, leading the planet to heat up significantly faster than scientists had predicted for the next five years, according to a study.
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It’s a good thing cosmos doesn’t carry a gun, he would have already shot himself in the foot several times today.
“New estimate based on the forthcoming upturn in solar activity and El Niño southern oscillation cycles is expected to silence global warming sceptics.”
These NATURAL occurrences do not make skeptics. It’s the idea that man made C02 is causing warming and that taxing it can change the climate, that creates the skepticism.
Regular posted July 28, 2009 at 3:42 pm | Permalink
Of course, cosmos reference the Guardian, a British Tabloid well known for its extraterrestrial and Loch Ness stories.
What’s interesting is the opening paragraph of cosmos tabloid article.
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I guess that Regular is still having reading problems, after his stroke last year. . .?
‘World will warm faster than predicted in next five years, study warns
New estimate based on the forthcoming upturn in solar activity and El Niño southern oscillation cycles is expected to silence global warming sceptics‘
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jul/27/world-warming-faster-study
“The research, to be published in Geophysical Research Letters, was carried out by Judith Lean, of the US Naval Research Laboratory, and David Rind, of Nasa’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies.”
donndublin,
Are you claiming that no AGW science deniers have claimed that the last few years of cooling refutes the AGW theory.
Ask soldevvb to help you do a ‘bone dig’.
Phantom, When did Kerry, Kennedy, Rockefeller, Soros and the executives at Goldman Sacs become “Cons”?
co2 arm flailing 101 – How to bluster up a false dilemma
The late Ordovician suffered an ice age (with associated mass extinction) while atmospheric CO2 levels were more than 4,000ppm higher than those of today.
According to the AGW alarmists, at those levels of co2 every piece of of ice should have been melted from the planet.
But one problem with that – the huge amount of co2 levels possibly 4500ppm was smack dab in the middle of an ice age!
There is no correlation between atmospheric CO2 and planetary temperature over the last 600 million years, so why would such relatively tiny amounts suddenly become a critical factor now?
It’s all about political control folks, not science.
Regular does not seem to have any respect for Dr. David Rind’s credentials and research.
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/staff/drind.html
Now folks, watch cosmos do the AGW dance of diversion and excuse making, trying to explain AGW fairy tales and tree-hugging love fests.
Oh, and cosmos, please, one more time – do explain why tree ring measurements show no warming trends in the 20th century. (cosmos deliberately avoids this)
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cosmos_originally
Posted July 28, 2009 at 3:55 pm | Permalink
donndublin,
Are you claiming that no AGW science deniers have claimed that the last few years of cooling refutes the AGW theory.
Ask soldevvb to help you do a ‘bone dig’.
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CosMo, I have never said “that the last few years of cooling refutes the AGW theory.”
I have said that the AGW alarmists have exaggerated their predictions, that global warming is natural, and that man can not control the climate. I have also said that global warming dose not necessarily lead to catastrophic consequences.
LOL!
Looks like Regular is going to have a big CO2 ‘meltdown’.
Severe thunderstorm warning for part of Wichita.
Hey cons? I’ve heard that when Jesus comes back, he’ll come in the clouds.
THIS could be it! You should all go outside and find a high hill to stand on so he can see you. So long, and thanks for all the fish.
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cosmos_originally
Posted July 28, 2009 at 4:08 pm | Permalink
LOL!
Looks like Regular is going to have a big CO2 ‘meltdown’.
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Diversion dance #3
donndublin,
So you admit that some AGW science deniers have claimed that the last few years of cooling refutes the AGW theory.
Okay. Thank you.
Regular posted July 28, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Now folks, watch cosmos do the AGW dance of diversion and excuse making, trying to explain AGW fairy tales and tree-hugging love fests.
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Trying to explain climate science to Regular is just a waste of time.
Regular would, as usual, just respond with more lies and attacks. Like he did upthread.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-728-3/comment-page-3/#comment-626350
cosmos_originally
Posted July 28, 2009 at 4:18 pm | Permalink
Trying to explain climate science to Regular is just a waste of time.
Regular would, as usual, just respond with more lies and attacks. Like he did upthread.
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Diversion Dance #4
“THIS could be it! You should all go outside and find a high hill to stand on so he can see you.”
Good idea! BTW wrong direction.
Why do dems hate the Captains of Capitalism?
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Legislation that would impose new curbs on executive pay was approved on Tuesday by a congressional committee, advancing a component of the Obama administration’s broad plan to tighten financial regulation.
Based on a fear of upsetting Congress..nhtsa buries a report that proves people are needlessly dying due to ‘distracted drivers’.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/21/technology/21distracted.html?_r=1&em
Oh nooo…let’s not upset congress….with their obscene salaries, outrageous “perks”, part time jobs and total irresponsiblity to the voters. Oh dear…let’s bury a report about people dying so as to not upset congress.
sickening is the only word that applies…
has this world gone completely nuts? From ksn.com:
Terry Nichols got a life sentence for his part in the 1995 federal building bombing. The suit filed in March complains that a lack of whole grains and fresh food burdens his Christianity
I don’t ascribe to any particular secular organization, but have never heard of christianity being ‘burdened’ by a lack grains and fresh food…
“Phantom
Posted July 28, 2009 at 8:08 am | Permalink
“The report by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said the public option proposed by Democrats would not drive private insurers out of business and most people would still choose to get their medical coverage through employers.”
Phantom if you would take the time to actuallyr ead the CBO report, instead of the bullets you get on the democrat websites you might be surprised:
“If we assumed that workers at larger firms would be allowed to purchase coverage through the exchanges, our estimate of the number of enrollees involved would undoubtedly be greater than 6 million, but we have not estimated the magnitude. Analysts at the Lewin Group recently estimated that if all employers were given access to the insurance exchanges, more than 100 million people would end up enrolling in the public
plan.
Because all of these factors are uncertain, estimating enrollment in the public plan is
especially difficult—as we emphasized in our earlier letter.
All this global warming alarmism is getting to be a gigantic bore….and as we’ve known all along, the playground of fools.
Who is the Lewin Group?
““The report by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said the public option proposed by Democrats would not drive private insurers out of business ”
Here’s some more good news from the CBO report:
“As discussed in
CBO’s letter of July 17, we estimate that the proposal as a whole would increase federal
deficits by $239 billion over the 2010–2019 period. That estimate has three major
components: the net effect of the coverage specifications, which affect both spending and
revenues and which would add an estimated $1,042 billion to cumulative deficits over
that period;”
“Combining those
provisions, increases in health care spending in excess of the rate of growth in income would be borne entirely by the federal government in the form of higher subsidy payments—because those payments would have to cover the entire difference between the total premium for insurance coverage and the capped amount that enrollees would pay. Those factors help explain why the costs of the coverage provisions would continue to grow rapidly in the decade after 2019.”
“new federal spending on Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program would be outlays, as would the spending for subsidies to purchase insurance coverage through the new exchanges. Those two streams of outlays
would amount to an estimated $1,211 billion over 10 years.”
Now that we have smoking laws shoved down our throats, its time for the obesity laws. What you eat and drink will soon be under the control of our Nanny government. We will do it for you. Get the scales out and make sure they are government approved.
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE56Q36020090728
CaptAmerica: I am encouraed that the truth about healthcare is becoming more mainstream. A little while ago a Canadian woman by the name of Holmes(?) was featured by the anti-reform people showing her as being saved by America because Canada would not operate on her cancerous brain tumour in time to save her life. The amazed press up there followed up on the story and the Ottawa Citizen disovered she had a benign cyst (Rathke’s Cleft Cyst)on the pituitary gland and been scheduled for surgery to her to deal with the complaint. Unhappy at not being put at the “head of the line” she went to the Mayo Clinic for the procedure, costing her $94,000.00 which she wanted the Province of Ontario to pay. They refused so she went “public”. That same paper got a confirming diagnosis and the lack of imminent concern from the John Wayne Cancer Center people. Before that one, Fox & Co. championed a doctor from Vancouver. Well, the amazed (and amused)Canadian media found out he had been previoulsy stripped of his postion in the CMA, as an immigrant annoyed and humiliated at the delay to get accredited in Canada and been refused permission to bill patients directly which would bypass the single payer system. So he went “public” but later told the local media he had been misquoted, his words truncted and his real postion altered by Fox. He continues to practice under the system he agreed to when granted his license up there. I guess he decided it ain’t that bad after all, or surely he’d have move here. “Three things cannot be hidden for long, the sun, the moon and the truth”….. Bhuddha. Oh, I hope so.
George, republican Mika from Joe Scarborough’s program was pushing for obesity laws this morning. It aint just some of the liberals trying to push nanny state. The cons who want to dictate everyone’s life are too.
“All this global warming alarmism is getting to be a gigantic bore….”
Coldest July on record in Chicago. Since 1944.
Brrrrrrrrrrrrr! Global warming.
“It aint just some of the liberals…. ”
You betcha!
Don’t give them complete control over your life.
Call, write, email them during the recess and tell Congress to keep their hands off our healthcare.
Republicans to poor people:
“Suffer! Die and decrease the surplus population!”
I’m fine with national healthcare. I don’t want them dictating my life. Letting us all pay for healthcare should not be a license to dictate what we do with our lives.
American_Way posted July 28, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Coldest July on record in Chicago. Since 1944.
Brrrrrrrrrrrrr! Global warming.
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American_Way believes that Chicago = global.
Cosmos.
I surrender! I’ll leave the GW discussion to you professionals. I’m too busy rubbing my feet and hands together to stay warm to continue ad nauseam.
I wondered what the Dims meant by “Climate of Corruption”.
Tuesday, July 28, 2009
WASHINGTON — Two influential Senate committee chairmen were told they were getting special VIP deals when they applied for mortgages, an official who handled their loans told Congress in closed-door testimony. Democratic Sens. Christopher Dodd and Kent Conrad had denied knowing they were getting discounts when they negotiated their loan terms.
One of Countrywide’s previously undisclosed customers at Fannie was Jamie Gorelick, an influential Democratic Party figure whose $960,000 mortgage refinancing in 2003 was handled through a program reserved for influential figures and friends of Countrywide’s chief executive at the time, Angelo Mozilo. Ms. Gorelick was Fannie Mae’s vice chairman at the time.
boxlock20 posted July 28, 2009 at 5:07 pm
All this global warming alarmism is getting to be a gigantic bore….and as we’ve known all along, the playground of fools.
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Yes, AGW science deniers like boxlock20 are fools.
“American_Way” shares –
“…I’m too busy rubbing my feet and hands together to stay warm….”
I really don’t want to know what parts of your body you rub to keep warm.
“Republicans to poor people:
“Suffer! Die and decrease the surplus population!”—BlueJay
BlueJay to the rest of the world:
You labor and then support me, simply because I am here breathing precious air and defecating I deserve to be supported on your work ethic and sweat, and I’ll support any government that provides that regardless of what they do to individual liberty and work ethic.
American_Way,
Move to Texas. They’ve had record heat there since about mid-June.
“…to keep warm…”
Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
“Boxlock20″ says to the world –
“Thomas Jefferson was President of the United States between January 20, 1777 and January 20, 1781.”
“Ouch!” Everytime the Dims tinker a little bit with their healthcare overhaul, they send it to the CBO to see if they like it. (Give it to Mikey!)
Each time they fiddle with it, the news gets more grim:
“Saturday, the Congressional Budget Office said the proposal to give an independent panel the power to keep Medicare spending in check would only save about $2 billion over 10 years- a drop in the bucket compared to the bill’s $1 trillion price tag.
“In CBO’s judgment, the probability is high that no savings would be realized … but there is also a chance that substantial savings might be realized. Looking beyond the 10-year budget window, CBO expects that this proposal would generate larger but still modest savings on the same probabilistic basis,” CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf wrote in a letter to House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer on Saturday.”
Boxlock to the rest of the world:
“I’m pro life the whole six inches of the birth canal! Then you’re on your own baby!”
“BlueJay to the rest of the world:”
An open hand stretched out full of nothing,
with a mouth full of gimmee.
(quote from another blogger)
“Yes, AGW science deniers like boxlock20 are fools.”–comatose, er…cosmos
Yeah yeah, I know, weather doesn’t equal climate. But we live under the weather and “Chicago Sees Coldest July In 67 Years, Average Temperature Only 68.9 Degrees.
And story after story of the same.
More and more people are laughing at folks like you ‘Mr. Chicken Little cosmos’….yeah laughing, not with you, at you.
And more and more respected ’scientists’ are refuting your climate alarmism.
cosmos, you are nothing more than a shrill noise along with your demigod algore.
Very little that I do is self directed there “American way”. I know you cons have issues thinking that way.
BlueJay sings…
They wanna talk about “me” they wanna talk about “my” they wanna talk about number one oh my me my!
Jay you obviously are not a country western fan.
(thank gawd we don’t have sound here)
boxlock20 posted July 28, 2009 at 7:09 pm
And more and more respected ’scientists’ are refuting your climate alarmism.
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boxlock20 believes silly lists from Marc Morano.
Not a fan no.
I grew up around that crap though.
It took years to get through my Dad’s head that “I’ll be workin’ long as my two hands are fit to use” was really pretty hard to stomach coming from a guy who sang for a living.
Country western music is THE opiate of stupid white men.
““Boxlock20? says to the world –
“Thomas Jefferson was President of the United States between January 20, 1777 and January 20, 1781.”–Chimpbrain
Never said that myself liar and you know it, yes you’re are a liar, though not a very competent one.
That you have nothing more important about you to do than focus on that says volumes about your insignificance, as it was apart of a rather long article I simply pasted to the blog. Of course a mindless dimwit that can’t argue the subject content picks that out of that persons writing to attribute to me even though it had absolutely noting to do with either me or the subject.
Typical of defeated loser, I’m humored you have nothing more.
Monkey, you are really going downhill and you had really nowhere to go as it was.
boxlock20 posted July 28, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Yeah yeah, I know, weather doesn’t equal climate. But we live under the weather and . . .
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‘Extreme Heat from the Northwest to Southeast Alaska‘
http://www.accuweather.com/mt-news-blogs.asp?partner=accuweather&traveler=0&blog=Clark&pgurl=/mtweb/content/Clark/archives/2009/07/extreme_heat_from_the_northwest_to_southeast_alaska.asp
Your Dad was a far far better person than you BlueJay, even if he amounted to nothing in your or others opinion.
Lets hope your son can get away from you as soon as he can….probably you hope that as well, being the slacker you are.
From your comment about your Dad you despise anyone who WORKS at anything because it contrasts so with your worthless person.
Slug!
Bang, bang, shoot em’ up, destiny
Bang, bang, shoot em’ up to the moon
Bang, bang, shoot em’ up one, two, three
(One, two, three, four!)
I wanted to be a spaceman
That’s what I wanted to be
But now that I am a spaceman
Nobody cares about me
Hey mother earth
Won’t ‘cha bring me back down
Safely to the sea
But ’round and around and around and around
Is all she ever say to me
It all equals out comatose, and you can do absolutely nothing about it anyway.
It’s a hoot that India and China have told the global warming alarmists to “just stuff it”. Ha!!!
boxlock20,
It hasn’t been “equalling out” the last 30 years — it’s been getting warmer, because of AGW.
Oops. Wrong paste. Here’s this one:
“(CNSNews.com) – The traffic at President Obama’s official White House Web site–whitehouse.gov–has fallen from a post-Inauguration peak to nearly the same level it was during the waning days of the Bush administration.
The dramatic drop in traffic has happened despite the Obama Administration’s complete redesign of the site.”
WPE
“From your comment about your Dad you despise anyone who WORKS at anything because it contrasts so with your worthless person.”
No, I pity people who won’t see that they are being used or played.
You must have missed where I have many times posted my great respect for my union steward father. He would have had NO use for a bootlick like yourself.
Just between us socialist:
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is taking over private companies in order to deal with the economic crisis that has affected both his country and the United States, and the Obama administration is trying to do roughly the same thing, Venezuelan political analyst Dr. Luis Vicente León told CNSNews.com Monday.
“I don’t like to make comparisons (between the U.S. and Venezuela) because you can only compare concepts,” León, a noted political analyst and pollster in Venezuela said in Spanish. “But conceptually, one can say that in order to solve the crisis, President Obama has had to overtake private companies.”
He added: “Chavez is using the thesis that he is going to solve the crisis (by taking over) private companies.”
Although both countries utilize different rhetoric, ultimately the “concept” behind the state meddling with the private sector in order to deal with the economy is the same in both countries, according to León.
My Dad shortened ( I should think) and made very unpleasant the lives of a lot of toadies like yourself bawks. I didn’t manage to stay at it as long as he. But you rest assured I did him proud.
“Country western music is THE opiate of stupid white men.”
Who cares about the men? It’s them country girls doing the boot scootin’ I likes.
Global Temperatures Drop Dramitically
All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA’s GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.
January 2008 capped a 12 month period of global temperature drops on all of the major well respected indicators. I have reported in the past two weeks that HadCRUT, RSS, UAH, and GISS global temperature sets all show sharp drops in the last year.
Source: Global ?T °C
HadCRUT – 0.595
GISS - 0.750
UAH - 0.588
RSS - 0.629
Average: - 0.6405°C
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All cosmos has to shows is one region of the world, not global temperature averages.
AGW – failed science.
“Boxlock20″ –
A agree it’s silly.
What I really like about your cut-and-post is how specifically wrong all the details of Jefferson’s presidency were in the cut-and-post you couldn’t have possibly read.
1777-to-1781? No one was President of the United States then. There was no Constitution in 1777-1781, ergo no President of the United States.
Further, Jefferson served two terms, not four years.
And further, presidential terms didn’t take effect on January 20th until midway through FDR’s presidency.
The elegant detail of ignorance… and your obliviousness of them… speaks volumes about your thought process.
And, yeah. I’m beginning to tire of ragging you about it. But I still have a ways to go before I can match your post count about how you allegedly “…took BJ to school!!!” in that parking lot a while back.
And, frankly, (admitting my inner troll) it’s fun to watch your hissy-fits when I remind the forum you posted Thomas Jefferson was President of the United States between January 20, 1777 to January 20, 1781.
You know you did it.
You blame whomever actually wrote what you cut-and-posted. You either did not read what you cut-and-posted or didn’t notice how obviously wrong that information was that you, y’know, cut-and-posted.
School’s out for now.
“Fighting Obesity Is ‘At the Heart’ of Obama’s Plan to Provide Better and Lower-Cost Health Care”
Hitler had a plan like that. Lot’s of skinny people on the Hitler weight loss plan.
“American_Way” becomes a Godwin’s Law felon.
I guess we should send him to a camp.
This Modern World –
http://tinyurl.com/mylctx
A break from my cut and pastes about the glorious Obama years.
Got an email from a good neighbor who lives the next mile road over and across the creek from us.
Born on leap day and says he is only 22 years old. Good friend. I learn alot from my seniors. But he is an FDR democrat. He raised a nest of democrats. Wife, kids (two retired teachers), grandkids, etc..
Anyway, he sent me a chain email about “Obama is going to ration healthcare! UK rations healthcare for seniors – denies cardiac care.”
I made it onto one of his distribution lists so I get all kinds of FWD emails, 99% of which I delete without reading. Lots old timers on the Copy to line with me. Lots of seniors. Appeared angry and scared of Obamacare.
I didn’t have the heart to tell him (nor reply to all) the snopes had proven the chain letter false.
“It hasn’t been “equalling out” the last 30 years — it’s been getting warmer, because of AGW.”
Except….what, cooler the last decade or something.
Go away Chicken Little….just go away, we are tired of hearing you cry.
Monkey,
Dimwit, when are you going to recognize that Thomas Jefferson’s term wasn’t even apart of the discussion previous to you making it a central issue, and no it was not important to me at all.
You could not argue the political subject and picked dates to make an issue of because you have nothing else.
I continue to lose respect for that and you, don’t worry…I had little anyway.
Well, I’m not surprised that BlueJay would hate country music. Too American. Since he quoted Toby Keith in his post, I’m posting a patriotic Toby Keith song, because, well, because I dam sure can.
American Soldier Lyrics
Artist(Band):Toby Keith
I’m just trying to be a father,
Raise a daughter and a son,
Be a lover to their mother,
Everything to everyone.
Up and at ‘em bright and early,
I’m all business in my suit,
Yeah, I’m dressed up for success from my head down to my boots,
I don’t do it for the money, there’s bills that I can’t pay,
I don’t do it for the glory, I just do it anyway,
Providing for our future’s my responsibility,
Yeah I’m real good under pressure, being all that I can be,
And I can’t call in sick on Mondays when the weekend’s been too strong,
I just work straight through the holidays,
And sometimes all night long.
You can bet that I stand ready when the wolf growls at the door,
Hey, I’m solid, hey I’m steady, hey I’m true down to the core,
And I will always do my duty, no matter what the price,
I’ve counted up the cost, I know the sacrifice,
Oh, and I don’t want to die for you,
But if dying’s asked of me,
I’ll bear that cross with honor,
‘Cause freedom don’t come free.
2x-I’m an American soldier, an American,
Beside my brothers and my sisters I will proudly take a stand,
When liberty’s in jeopardy I will always do what’s right,
I’m out here on the front lines, sleep in peace tonight.
American soldier, I’m an American,
An American,
An American Soldier
Listen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47ZDp5qdBU4
1. wasn’t even part of the discussion
2. you making it a central issue
3. could not argue the political subject
4. make an issue
5. have nothing else
Regular had the lib way down pat and had a good way of phrasing it. But I think your post nailed most of the ways libs twist the truth, change it, and avoid it.
Where’s REGULAR when you need him?
I’m still here – cable was down most of the day, they (Cox) were working on it, off and on. Finally fixed it. :)
“President Obama has had to overtake private companies.”
Name the private companies Obama has taken over – remember, if they accepted TARP or stimulus funds, there were strings attached.
So, name the companies that Obama took over.
“American Dragon” by Jonas brothers
Verse 1
He’s Cool
He’s Hot
Like A Frozen Sun
He’s Young
And Fast
He’s the Chosen one
People we’re not bragging
He’s the American Dragon
He’s gonna stop his enemies with his dragon powers
Dragon Teeth
Dragon Tail
Burning dragon fire
Real live Wire
American Dragon
American Dragon
He’s the American Dragon
His skills are getting faster
With Grandpa the Master
His destiny will walk up streets, showtime, baby, for the legacy!
American Dragon,
American Dragon,
American Dragon,
American Dragon,
YOW!!!!
“Name the private companies Obama has taken over”
Hey you need to address your question to Venzuela and the South American press. It’s all over the world press. If you hurry, maybe you can get a plug in somewhere they care south of the border.
“Although both countries utilize different rhetoric, ultimately the “concept” behind the state meddling with the private sector in order to deal with the economy is the same in both countries, according to León.”
“Too American. Since he quoted Toby Keith”
Toby Keith is a registered Democrat.
LOL!
Poor old Regular is stuck back in January 2008.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-cooling-january-2007-to-january-2008.htm
When will you libs stop blaming republicans for your in house feuds? Remember – it’s democrats holding up free healthcare for all of us!
“When it comes to health care reform, President Barack Obama has succumbed to the “Rahm Emanuel factor,” meaning he will make a deal about anything, House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers (D-Mich.) told reporters at the National Press Club on Friday.”
“Hey you need to address your question to Venzuela”
No, you made the post and I am calling you on it – you posted a quote that presumably backed up your opinion, so DEFEND your post.
What American companies has Barack Obama taken over?
I guess this means abortions might be extended to include preschool and daycare kids?
” President Obama’s top science adviser said in a book he co-authored in 1973 that a newborn child “will ultimately develop into a human being” if he or she is properly fed and socialized.
“The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being,” John P. Holdren, director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, wrote in “Human Ecology: Problems and Solutions.”
Why do republicans continue to act as if we democrats don’t like our military? You’re the ones sending them out to get shot unnecessarily.
boxlock20 posted July 28, 2009 at 7:48 pm
“It hasn’t been “equalling out” the last 30 years — it’s been getting warmer, because of AGW.”
Except….what, cooler the last decade or something.
Go away Chicken Little….just go away, we are tired of hearing you cry.
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You better hurry, boxlock20, and convince everyone of your denial and fantasy world . . .
‘World will warm faster than predicted in next five years, study warns
New estimate based on the forthcoming upturn in solar activity and El Niño southern oscillation cycles is expected to silence global warming sceptics‘
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jul/27/world-warming-faster-study
I think Clark is just upset that Alf’s (spelling intentional) didn’t get him the proper fitting ass-less chaps he ordered.
Not looking so good for all free healthcare:
“A bipartisan group of senators is closing in on a health care compromise that omits key Democratic priorities but seeks to hold down costs, as lawmakers on both sides of the Capitol labor to deliver sweeping health legislation to President Barack Obama.
After weeks of secretive talks, three Democrats and three Republicans on the Senate Finance Committee were edging closer to a compromise that excludes a requirement many congressional Democrats seek for large businesses to offer coverage to their workers. Nor would there be a provision for a government insurance option”
Thank goodness for all those campaign contributions to Senator Baucus from healthcare providers!
Out ‘a’ here – I’ll check your well thought out answer tomorrow, AmWay.
I am sure it will be a serious, well research response.
“You’re the ones ”
Isn’t that a song?
You’res The One That I Want
‘El Niño, 1998, And “Global Cooling” Revisited‘
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/environmentandenergy/archive/2009/07/29/el-nino-1998-and-quot-global-cooling-quot-revisited.aspx
Clark, I’ve been trying to be nice, as I’ve noticed some other bloggers have been working hard at self-control. I slip now and then, but am trying.
I’ve learned not to post to you after a certain time of night. I don’t know if it’s the booze or the purple haze, but you get obnoxious after a certain hour.
#
WSClark
Posted July 28, 2009 at 8:16 pm | Permalink
“Too American. Since he quoted Toby Keith”
Toby Keith is a registered Democrat.
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Did you know that you can be an American AND be registered as a Democrat Clark? It’s not impossible.
“The United States and China are striking a conciliatory tone in their public comments during economic talks, although that hasn’t stopped China from posing some pointed questions behind closed doors about such issues as America’s soaring budget deficit.”
[Good American conservatives have been trying to explain econmics to Obama - you think he will listen to China?]
“Officials from both nations played down the prospects for any breakthroughs this week on the major issues that separate the two nations, including America’s massive trade deficit with China. Critics have blamed the trade deficit over the years for the loss of millions of U.S. manufacturing jobs.”
Democrats used to blame Bush.
Now, Obama is kissing China’s but for more trade.
Typical:
Bush = trade with China bad
Obama = trade with China good
#
Political_mama
Posted July 28, 2009 at 8:21 pm | Permalink
Why do republicans continue to act as if we democrats don’t like our military? You’re the ones sending them out to get shot unnecessarily.
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Actually, it’s the Commander-In-Chief that orders the troops in harm’s way.
And the name of that Commander-In-Chief is O’BAMA?
Didn’t O’BAMA just recently order an increase in troops in Afghanistan?
There’s still a sizable force in Iraq as well.
I don’t know if it’s the booze or the purple haze
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I’m guessing booze. Most pot smokers are not angry.
WSClark
Posted July 28, 2009 at 8:16 pm | Permalink
“Too American. Since he quoted Toby Keith”
Toby Keith is a registered Democrat.
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A Democrat from Oklahoma is unlike any Democrat that the Libs around here are familiar with.
The Okie Dems are different kind of animals.
“Didn’t O’BAMA just recently order an increase in troops in Afghanistan?”
And HIS commanders have asked him for even more.
When will the killings end? When will Obama stop ordering American GI’s to kill innocent women and children with their misguided bombs?
More American troops are dying than at any other time in Afghanistan.
When will Obama stop the murders?
Where have all the flowers gone.
The Okie Dems are different kind of animals.
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Okie Dems = N.Y. Libertarian
“I’m guessing booze. Most pot smokers are not angry.”
You could be correct Anti. He gets stuck on something, just like that drunk at the bar slurring his words and muttering the same thing over-and-over-and-over again.
But I heard he has a dope problem too.
OMG!!!! Obama has yet to get Katrina victims taken care of!!! OMG!!!!
And now the entire world will see Obama’s dirty laundry!
“United Nations group gets a look at post-Katrina housing woes”The Times-Picayune
60 Percent Disapprove of Congress
Less than one-third of Americans approve of Congress’ performance as support from Democrats has tumbled — and as more people identify themselves as Republicans than have done so since 2008.
Thanks Democrats! Because this sure as he11 isn’t because of the good work of republicans.
Keep on keeping on. Spend our way to prosperity! Throw some more money at it!!! Yepieee!
“Ouch!”
Despite an early surge of interest from consumers, analysts say the federal “cash for clunkers” program will fall short of its potential to reduce emissions and stimulate the economy.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/28/cash-for-clunkers-bashed-analysts-question-program/
OH NO, the C Street FAMILY is getting some serious exposure. I wonder if they’re paying for Brownback’s new world order here in Kansas.
Early prediction:
Israel will bomb Iran in October.
Obama’s puppy met with Israel and the two nations declared Iran needs to “do something*” by this fall.
Obama offers latest jet aircraft to Israel.
Put two and two together folks. Obama blessed the attack. He thinks we can come out lilly white. He is very wrong.
*Obama cannot decide what EXACTLY Iran needs to do. But he sure sounds good saying it, doesn’t he!
“Fountain Hills, Ariz. (AP) – Taser International has introduced its first new stun gun since 2003: a device capable of shocking three people without being reloaded”
Maybe Officer Crowley should take one of these to the white house. Shock the sheat out of everyone. It might just look like a break in.
“they’re paying for Brownback’s new world order here in Kansas.”
Yep. And they are going to move in right next to you.
iPhone Apps for the Lawbreaker in You
You’re driving along the highway, maybe exceeding the speed limit, when your iPhone calls out to you: “Police often hide here.”
Glancing at the phone, you see a road map that pinpoints your exact location and, very close to it, an icon of a police car. It’s time to ease the pedal from the metal.
This is why you’ve downloaded “Trapster,” one of several “apps” — programs available for the Apple iPhone — that can help users get a leg up on the law.
If you’re a blackjack player, there’s an iPhone app you can use to count cards — a neat little trick that will help you beat the odds in a casino.
One added feature is that it can also can help you obtain a room in a Nevada prison and stay free for six years. (It isn’t illegal to count cards, but it’s illegal in Nevada to use a device to count cards.)
If you’re a marijuana smoker, yet another app will show you where you can find it and buy it — with a doctor’s prescription, of course.
The most popular of these apps is “Trapster,” with 1.5 million users. The free program uses the GPS receiver built into new iPhones to track a driver’s location and warn of nearby speed traps and red light cameras. It’s also available for phones running Google Android and some BlackBerries.
Drivers can add new locations to the app by hitting buttons to mark speed traps and red light cameras for other drivers. Users can also rate the accuracy of speed trap reports, which helps weed out fake inputs.
The app potentially can help users speed or run lights more often. Nonetheless, police are largely supportive of Trapster, because they hope it will get users to slow down.
cont’d at Fox News
“World will warm faster than predicted in next five years, study warns”—our resident chicken little
It will be warm some days and cold some days, your ‘predictions’ will get you some pretty crappy odds with the crowd that puts their money where their mouth is instead of trying to win grant money to cry like chicken little.
American_Way
Posted July 28, 2009 at 8:36 pm | Permalink
“Didn’t O’BAMA just recently order an increase in troops in Afghanistan?”
And HIS commanders have asked him for even more.
When will the killings end? When will Obama stop ordering American GI’s to kill innocent women and children with their misguided bombs?
More American troops are dying than at any other time in Afghanistan.
When will Obama stop the murders?
Where have all the flowers gone.
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And the Billions of Dollars used for Obama’s war escalation could have paid for Health Care.
Winner of not my job award. :)
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3328/notmyjobaward.jpg
LOL Regular!
Too bad the Stimulus doesn’t have money for Road Kill Crews until 2011.
Why our country is in trouble
A DC airport ticket agent offers some examples of ‘why’ our country is in trouble!
1.I had a New Hampshire Congresswoman (Carol Shea-Porter) ask for an aisle
seat so that her hair wouldn’t get messed up by being near the window. (On
an airplane!)
2.I got a call from a Kansas Congressman’s (Moore) staffer (Howard
Bauleke), who wanted to go to Capetown. I started to explain the length of
the flight and the passport information, and then he interrupted me with,
”I’m not trying to make you look stupid, but Capetown is in
Massachusetts .”
Without trying to make him look stupid, I calmly explained, ”Cape Cod is
in Massachusetts , Capetown is in Africa ”
his response — click.
3. A senior Vermont Congressman (Bernie Sanders) called, furious about a
Florida package we did. I asked what was wrong with the vacation in
Orlando . He said he was expecting an ocean-view room. I tried to explain
that’s not possible, since Orlando is in the middle of the state.
He replied, ‘don’t lie to me, I looked on the map and Florida is a very
thin state!” (OMG)
4. I got a call from a lawmaker’s wife (Landra Reid) who asked, ”Is it
possible to see England from Canada ?”
I said, ”No.”
She said, ”But they look so close on the map.” (OMG, again!)
5.An aide for a cabinet member (Janet Napolitano) once called and asked if
he could rent a car in Dallas. I pulled up the reservation and noticed he
had only a 1-hour layover in Dallas . When I asked him why he wanted to
rent a car, he said, ”I heard Dallas was a big airport, and we will need
a car to drive between gates to save time.” (Aghhhh)
6.An Illinois Congresswoman (Jan Schakowsky) called last week. She needed
to know how it was possible that her flight from Detroit left at 8:30
a.m., and got to Chicago at 8:33 a.m.
I explained that Michigan was an hour ahead of Illinois , but she couldn’t
understand the concept of time zones. Finally, I told her the plane went
fast, and she bought that.
7. A New York lawmaker, (Jerrold Nadler) called and asked, ”Do airlines
put your physical description on your bag so they know whose luggage
belongs to whom?” I said, ‘No, why do you ask?’
he replied, ”Well, when I checked in with the airline, they put a tag on
my luggage that said (FAT), and I’m overweight. I think that’s very
rude!”
After putting him on hold for a minute, while I looked into it. (I was
dying laughing). I came back and explained the city code for Fresno , Ca.
is (FAT – Fresno Air Terminal), and the airline was just putting a
destination tag on his luggage..
8. A Senator John Kerry aide (Lindsay Ross) called to inquire about a trip
package to Hawaii . After going over all the cost info, she asked, ”Would
it be cheaper to fly to California and then take the train to Hawaii ?”
9. I just got off the phone with a freshman Congressman, Bobby Bright (D)
from Ala who asked, ”How do I know which plane to get on?”
I asked him what exactly he meant, to which he replied, ”I was told my
flight number is 823, but none of these planes have numbers on them.”
10. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D)
called and said, ”I need to fly to Pepsi-Cola , Florida . Do I have to
get on one of those little computer planes?”
I asked if she meant fly to Pensacola , FL on a commuter plane.
She said, ”Yeah, whatever, smarty!”
11. Mary Landrieu (D) La. Senator called and had a question about the
documents she needed in order to fly to China . After a lengthy discussion
about passports, I reminded her that she needed a visa. ‘Oh, no I don’t.
I’ve been to China many times and never had to have one of those.”
I double checked and sure enough, her stay required a visa. When I told
her this she said, ”Look, I’ve been to China four times and every time
they have accepted my American Express!”
12. A New Jersey Congressman (John Adler) called to make reservations, ”I
want to go from Chicago to Rhino, New York .”
I was at a loss for words. Finally, I said, ”Are you sure that’s the name
of the town?”
‘Yes, what flights do you have?” replied the man.
After some searching, I came back with, ”I’m sorry, sir, I’ve looked up
every airport code in the country and can’t find a rhino anywhere.”
”The man retorted, ”Oh, don’t be silly! Everyone knows where it is.
Check your map!”
So I scoured a map of the state of New York and finally offered, ”You
don’t mean Buffalo , do you?”
The reply? ”Whatever! I knew it was a big animal.”
Now you know why the Government is in the shape that it’s in!
Could anyone be this DUMB?
[From an email]
Colin Powell’s sage advise on the Henry Gates matter
From Larry King interview:
Powell said, “when you are faced with an officer trying to do his job and get to the bottom of something, this is not the time to get in an argument with him. I was taught that as a child.
“You don’t argue with a police officer,” Powell said.
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Yep – common sense
Chas,
I think you are on to something with that last post, those folks seem incredibly “DUMB”.
Notice they are all Democrats, I believe, ha!
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