Open thread 7/25

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  1. JWink
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 6:36 am | Permalink

    Interesting article about Lawrence-Dumont Stadium on the front page of the Eagle newspaper this morning. Reminds me to dust off the hard cover of my now rare book, “Baseball’s Barnum, Ray “Hap” Dumont and the National Baseball Congress.”

    All the great stories of “Hap” Dumont and Wichita baseball over the years since the mid-1930’s at Wichita’s Lawrence-Dumont stadium.

    Perhaps Steve Shaad, former L-D stadium manager, was correct. The catacombs of L-D stadium are haunted by the good ghosts of the great Wichita baseball history and tradition.

  2. Monkeyhawk
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 7:42 am | Permalink

    I used to love the 3-in-the-morning games at the NBC.

    I remember how some kid playing shortstop explained a wild throw to start an otherwise guaranteed double play. “The sun got in my eyes.”

    That can happen only in L-D Stadium at 6 am.

    The NBC showcased Satchel Paige, playing for a South Dakota semi-pro team, back in the 30s.

    Today’s tournament doesn’t seem to get that sort of talent these days, but it’s fun to watch people play the game simply because they love the game.

    Does that team that’s sponsored by a furniture store in Michigan still play in the tournament? The guy who owned the furniture store was the team’s manager because… he was the guy who owned the furniture store.

    The kids who played in the Alaskan League loved Wichita because it was the first time in months they’d been in a town with a Taco Bell.

    The most fun about the NBC is talking to the people. The players, the fans, the scouts….

    There’s so much more about the NBC than the baseball. And yet, baseball is everything about it in the final analysis.

    It’s so Wichita.

  3. DorisKing
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 8:17 am | Permalink

    “The kids who played in the Alaskan League loved Wichita because it was the first time in months they’d been in a town with a Taco Bell.”

    Just another example of the horrible cultural deprivation suffered by some. Even worse: They apparently think Taco Bell serves edible food.

  4. wichhick
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 8:34 am | Permalink

    spent many a day and night and morning at nbc tournament watching my son watch games, shag foul balls, bat boy and later watching him play in the tournament……….was i tired a lot of mornings…………wouldn’t trade it for anything…

  5. Regular
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    On this date, Jul 24th

    1758 George Washington admitted to Virginia House of Burgess
    1948 Soviets blockades Berlin from the west
    1952 – The temperature at Louisville, GA, soared to 112 degrees to establish a state record. (The Weather Channel)

    On this date, Jul 25th

    1775 Maryland issues currency depicting George III trampling Magna Carta
    1871 Carrousel patented by Wilhelm Schneider, Davenport, Iowa
    1891 – The mercury hit 109 degrees at Los Angeles, CA, marking the peak of a torrid heat wave. (David Ludlum)
    1944 1st jet fighter used in combat (Messerschmitt 262)
    1990 Roseanne Barr sings the National Anthem at San Diego Padre game

    On this date, Jul 26th

    1775 Benjamin Franklin becomes 1st Postmaster General
    1865 Patrick Francis Healy is 1st black awarded PhD (Louvain Belgium)
    1943 – Tishomingo, OK, baked in the heat as the mercury soared to 121 degrees, a state record. (The Weather Channel)
    1947 Department of Defense established
    1947 National Security Act establishes the CIA

  6. Regular
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 10:14 am | Permalink

    GOP Not Allowed to Say ‘Government-Run Healthcare’
    public option health care plan is the politically correct term

    Connie Hair, Human Events

    Rep. John Carter (R-Texas), the secretary of the House Republican Conference and a former District Court Judge, is having his messages to constituents censored by Democrats on the Franking Commission. Republicans are no longer allowed to use the words “government run health care” in the communications to their constituents.

    Carter received an email from the Franking mmission informing him of the censorship.

    “What we proposed as language was as follows, ‘House Democrats unveiled a government-run health care plan,’” Carter said. “Our response from Franking was, ‘You cannot use that language. You must use, ‘The House majority unveiled a public option health care plan,’ which is Pelosi-speak or ‘just last week the House majority unveiled a health care plan which I believe will cost taxpayers…’”

    What the Franking commission is supposed to do.

    Pursuant to Public Law 93-191, the bipartisan Commission on Congressional Mailing Standards or the “Franking Commission” has a three fold mandate: (1) to issue regulations governing the proper use of the franking privilege; (2) to provide guidance in connection with mailings; (3) to act as a quasi-judicial body for the disposition of formal complaints against Members of Congress who have allegedly violated franking laws or regulations.

  7. Posted July 25, 2009 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    Looks like the Franking Commissiobn is right on target… :-))

  8. Hud
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    “1943 – Tishomingo, OK, baked in the heat as the mercury soared to 121 degrees, a state record. (The Weather Channel)”

    Wow! You can knock it off now. In 1943, I was 9 mos. old and lived 8 miles from Tishomingo.

  9. Regular
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    It’s okay Hud, living 8 miles from Tishomingo, you were know doubt in the cool zone. :)

  10. JimJohnson
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    More and More Americans Killed in War

    The Department of Defense announced today the death of two Marines who were supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.

    Lance Cpl. Jeremy S. Lasher, 27, of Oneida, N.Y., and Cpl. Nicholas G. Xiarhos, 21, of Yarmouth Port, Mass., died July 23 of wounds suffered while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. They were assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 8th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.

  11. JimJohnson
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    More and More Americans Killed in War

    The Department of Defense announced today the death of a Marine who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.

    Sgt. Ryan H. Lane, 25, of Pittsburgh, Pa., died July 23 of wounds suffered while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to the 2nd Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.

  12. JimJohnson
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history

    Obama Approval Now -9 And Falling

  13. JimJohnson
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    Some Guantanamo Detainees May Come to U.S. Jails

    Defense Department general counsel Jeh Charles Johnson told the House Armed Services Committee that some suspected terrorists might be transferred to the U.S. for prosecution and others sent to a facility inside the U.S. for long-term incarceration.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2009/07/25/guantanamo-detainees-come-jails/?test=latestnews

    Put em All in Kansas!

  14. Phantom
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    Small bus. has been getting screwed, Obama will bring parity!
    “A new study by the White House Council of Economic Advisers said small businesses pay up to 18 percent more to provide health insurance for their employees. As a result, fewer of them do so and the number has been shrinking further in these hard economic times.

  15. Phantom
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    Looks like we were right about the previous admin.:
    “WASHINGTON – The Bush administration in 2002 considered sending U.S. troops into a Buffalo, N.Y., suburb to arrest a group of terror suspects in what would have been a nearly unprecedented use of military power, The New York Times reported.

    Vice President Dick Cheney and several other Bush advisers at the time strongly urged that the military be used to apprehend men who were suspected of plotting with al Qaida, who later became known as the Lackawanna Six, the Times reported on its Web site Friday night. It cited former administration officials who spoke on condition of anonymity.

    The proposal advanced to at least one-high level administration meeting, before President George W. Bush decided against it.

    Dispatching troops into the streets is virtually unheard of. The Constitution and various laws restrict the military from being used to conduct domestic raids and seize property.

  16. TomPaine
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    you con the surving WWI vets on both sides on one Hand http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090725/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_obit_patch;_ylt=ArtcWyNx2329yYZmSNuqPbxH2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTJvMHNrcjNrBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMDkwNzI1L2V1X2JyaXRhaW5fb2JpdF9wYXRjaARjcG9zAzUEcG9zAzUEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yaWVzBHNsawNsYXN0dWt2ZXRlcmE-

  17. DFB
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    “Small bus. has been getting screwed, Obama will bring parity!
    “A new study by the White House Council of Economic Advisers said small businesses pay up to 18 percent more to provide health insurance for their employees. As a result, fewer of them do so and the number has been shrinking further in these hard economic times.” (Phantom)
    _________
    Gee, I’m sure that has NOTHING to do with the fact that govt has made it illegal for small bus/self employed folks to band together to create larger risk pools and compete for better insurance rates….no….wouldn’t be that at all. Or maybe how gubermint doesn’t allow self employed folks to deduct their premiums on their taxes like big business can. Govt also prevents a business from getting out of state quotes (huh, another set of regs the gubermint plan won’t have to abide by). Gubermint also prevents doctors from offering flat fee alternatives for primary care, like health club dues, that would cut out all the insurance AND gubermint overhead costs. Even more ironic, Dems don’t address a single one of these in their bill…but NOW gubermint’s gonna fix’em…give me a break. Yeah, brilliant analysis, just keep buying the talking pts they feed you.

  18. Posted July 25, 2009 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    LOL And DFB cant even show a link to back up those worthless bi*ch points… LOL

  19. ANTI
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    Chas, remember Sunday is tomorrow.

  20. Posted July 25, 2009 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    ANTI — Are you sure??

  21. American_Way
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    Despite Obama’s apology to the world and muslims for the evil United States, it appears his words were not calibrated as well as they could have been:

    More than twice as many Palestinian respondents (52 percent) expressed confidence in al-Qaeda terrorist Osama bin Laden than the number expressing confidence in the American president (22 percent).

    Pakistani respondents also weighed in in favor of bin Laden over Obama by an 18-13 margin.

  22. Posted July 25, 2009 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    Doris, the bit about Taco Bell is sooo true.
    That crap is inedible and what eat a hole in stainless steel.

  23. Posted July 25, 2009 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    [and would eat a hole in...]

  24. American_Way
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    Who does Obama represent?

    Obama’s plan to close the U.S. military detention center at Guantanamo Bay was supported by 93 percent of Palestinians, 91 percent of Lebanese and 84 percent of Germans. On the other end of the scale, only 33 percent of Pakistanis and 38 percent of Indians concurred.

    Americans are overwhelmingly opposed to closing the detention center for suspected terrorists at Guantanamo Bay and moving some of the detainees to prisons on U.S. soil, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds By more than 2-1, those surveyed say Guantanamo shouldn’t be closed. By more than 3-1, they oppose moving some of the accused terrorists housed there to prisons in their own states.

    Did you elect Obama to represent the rest of the world and not the US?

  25. Heckler
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    ….oh, and by the way, seems that another of Bloombergs Mayors Against evil nasty GUNS is biting the dust. Whats that make, about 10 now?

  26. Raptor
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    Thomas Jefferson once said:

    The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those Who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

    It is a shame that bho doesn’t understand that basic concept with his ‘redistribution of wealth’ plans.

  27. Posted July 25, 2009 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    ‘redistribution of the blah blah blah’

  28. george
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    Obama cries to Bus CEO’s to not spend big bucks, but it does not apply to him and his family vacation.

    http://hotairpundit.blogspot.com/2009/07/what-recession-obama-to-vacation-on-20.html

  29. wichhick
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    davidb……not knowing all the facts but it seems you are acting stupidly

  30. DFB
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

    “LOL And DFB cant even show a link to back up those worthless bi*ch points… LOL” (Chas)

    Chas, you’re nothing but a pimple on the perineum of a pec&ergnat too. Try reading a book sometime instead of acting like if it’s not found on Wiki it doesn’t exist.
    Now, name one thing I listed that isn’t fact you little vacuous mountebank of twaddle.

  31. Posted July 25, 2009 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    Where’s your link, DFB?? Dont have one?? Why am I not surprissed?? You so rarely do… That’s OK… I will just bypass your post… Most likely just more RW drivel anyway…

  32. Posted July 25, 2009 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    “Gee, I’m sure that has NOTHING to do with the fact that govt has made it illegal for small bus/self employed folks to band together to create larger risk pools and compete for better insurance rates….no….wouldn’t be that at all. Or maybe how gubermint doesn’t allow self employed folks to deduct their premiums on their taxes like big business can. Govt also prevents a business from getting out of state quotes (huh, another set of regs the gubermint plan won’t have to abide by). Gubermint also prevents doctors from offering flat fee alternatives for primary care, like health club dues, that would cut out all the insurance AND gubermint overhead costs. Even more ironic, Dems don’t address a single one of these in their bill…but NOW gubermint’s gonna fix’em…give me a break. Yeah, brilliant analysis, just keep buying the talking pts they feed you.” [DFB]

    Gosh, I dont see that any of those things are FACTS… just warped opinion…

  33. DFB
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    “Where’s your link, DFB?? Dont have one?? Why am I not surprissed?? You so rarely do… That’s OK… I will just bypass your post… Most likely just more RW drivel anyway…”

    Chas – I don’t need a link for common knowledge. You on the other hand own the patent for addlepated drivel.
    Since you’re so reliant on Wiki, go ahead and look up anything I posted and prove it isn’t fact!
    Bypass it because you’ve got nothing as usual, pudendum. You might try some erudition, then you’d understand my insouciance towards your logorrhea.

  34. Posted July 25, 2009 at 4:22 pm | Permalink

    Hey, you make the claim, you supply the proof… I call every one of your claims BEE ESS… And, ask your friend, Reggie, he says you cant prove a negative…

    Ball’s in YOUR court… ID 10 T

  35. Posted July 25, 2009 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    Let’s just take your FALSE claims one at a time….

    1) govt has made it illegal for small bus/self employed folks to band together to create larger risk pools and compete for better insurance rates….

    This would be known as a GROUP RATE… There are established RULES for Group Rates… If you had checked this out before you spew forth, you would know this…

    2) Or maybe how gubermint doesn’t allow self employed folks to deduct their premiums on their taxes like big business can.

    Sorry, but you can deduct health insurance premiums on Schedule A, Form 1040… Check it out… It even tells you HOW to do that… BESIDES — Big Businesses are under a different Tax Code from individuals… Which, I am sure, you already know…

    3) Govt also prevents a business from getting out of state quotes (huh, another set of regs the gubermint plan won’t have to abide by).

    Your local State Insurance carrier might have an answer for you on that… In Kansas, you can check this one at http://www.kansas.gov….

    4) Gubermint also prevents doctors from offering flat fee alternatives for primary care, like health club dues…

    What States prevent this?? I have even seen ads for such programs… A friend of mine in Wichita was just telling me that he has worked out such a program with his Primary Care physician… Doing that, he now only carries Catastrophic Insurance on him, and his spouse…
    ===========================================

    So, what say you now, Jackass???

  36. Posted July 25, 2009 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    OH YEA —-

    1) govt has made it illegal for small bus/self employed folks to band together to create larger risk pools and compete for better insurance rates….

    This would be known as a GROUP RATE… There are established RULES for Group Rates… If you had checked this out before you spew forth, you would know this…

    Please check with your State Insurance Commissioner, as to the rules and regulations for establishing GROUPS for the purpose of Insurance coverage… In kansas, that would be found at http://www.kansas.gov

  37. DFB
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    Chas – If you had any more substance than a soap bubble you’d be worthy of proof. You can’t even use a saying correctly. There’s nothing about my post or my demand of you that has anything to do with proving a negative. It’s in the tax code, boy. Look it up, or shut up.
    You’re such a risible miasma, still looking for a fellow Dem to cuddle you and validate your inanity. They laugh at you too Chas.

  38. Posted July 25, 2009 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    Poor DFB… doesnst even understand what “proving a negative” means… Hey, YOU told me to prove your alleged “facts” to be wrong… That, you stupid shill, would be telling me to prove a negative….

    Instead, I merely proved your allegations are just plain wrong… I have stated your possible remedies…

    I see all you are capable of are ad hominems out the arse….

    Carry on, I am done with your drivel….

  39. DFB
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    “This would be known as a GROUP RATE… There are established RULES for Group Rates… If you had checked this out before you spew forth, you would know this…”

    Hey, dumbazz, I’ve been in charge of employee benefits you…a faux preacher. You might stick to something you have ANY knowledge in, whatever childish pursuit that might be. Just make sure it doesn’t involve reading comprehension. That’s one skill of yours that never fails to underwhelm.
    A group rate is a rate given to a single employer who has multiple employees, freakshow! Different companies can’t band together…like I said…to get those same group rates!! The closest thing to it is trade associations that offer lame policies with small lifetime maximums, large deductibles and aren’t accepted by many doctors. When I tried to get a group of manufacturers together to get a better rate, the insurance brokers ALL told me that was illegal.

  40. Posted July 25, 2009 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    OK, dope, since the instructions for deducting your health insurance premiums are on Schedule A, of Form 1040, where do you find that an individual cannot deduct health insurance premiums??

    AND… where can you find in the Tax Code that a “Big Business” files under the same rules as an individual??

  41. Posted July 25, 2009 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

    Come to think of it, I think Schedule C also has a provision for deducting health insurance premiums…

  42. DFB
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 4:53 pm | Permalink

    Chas – once again, your reasoning skills are laughable. I understand exactly what proving a negative is…you not so much. Then, you try to do the impossible…according to you…as in prove a negative..by posting a lame attempt at twisting an example that anyone whose managed benefits would laugh at.
    No ad hominems, Chas, just the latest in examples of your complete ignorance.

  43. Posted July 25, 2009 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    “When I tried to get a group of manufacturers together to get a better rate, the insurance brokers ALL told me that was illegal.” [DFB]

    Then you werent following the rules and regulations…

  44. Posted July 25, 2009 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

    Oh yea, dumbazz… your four original points didnt say anything about an employer providing health insurance for employees… You said individuals could not deduct for health insurance premiums, like a Big Business can do…

    NOW you come along, and try to change the parameters….

    WHY do you like to LIE this way??? Is it just part of your genetic make-up, or do you do it intentionally???

  45. DFB
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    Ok, termagent, I AM self employed..huh..weird..can’t deduct my healthcare premiums..huh..weird..have heard a lot of politicians railing about equal tax treatment for small businesses…but no…you and only you Chas are the omnipotent one…
    But just since you’re such an idiot and Wiki must’ve let you down, here ya go:
    “Equal Tax Treatment: Individuals must be able to purchase healthcare in the same tax-advantaged way as business does today. Today healthcare premiums are tax deductible to business, but not to individuals – a policy that resulted from World War II-era wage and price controls and is now out of date. Policymakers should level the playing field and make individual healthcare expenses tax deductible – thereby enabling individual responsibility.”
    http://www.coalition4healthcare.org/about/principles/

  46. Posted July 25, 2009 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    BTW, DFB, I used to SELL insurance policies to business owners — for their employees… health insurance, life insurance, disability insurance…

    And, FYI, as a Parish Pastor, I am also the CEO of that organization, as long as I am Pastor there…

  47. Posted July 25, 2009 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    Time to take care of some business matters… Back later… maybe…. Bye now!!

  48. DFB
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 5:03 pm | Permalink

    READ & COMPREHEND A COMPLETE SENTENCE FOR ONCE IN YOUR CONFUSED LITTLE PATHETIC LIFE CHAS!
    Those 2 points aren’t connected. Individuals not being able to deduct premiums & small bus/individuals not being able to form groups have are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE YOU SORRY EXCUSE FOR A FREAKSHOW.

    Now have fun finding your lib-mate. I’m sure someday somebody will feel sorry enough for you to take you under their wing. I’ll keep you in my prayers.

  49. DFB
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    “BTW, DFB, I used to SELL insurance policies to business owners — for their employees… health insurance, life insurance, disability insurance…”

    And never once did you sell it to a GROUP of businesses who joined together to get a better rate. You sold to individual companies. Yeah, I worked with a guy and got a quote from Lutheran Brotherhood, who I’m guessing you referring to. Their insurance sucked, so we never used it.

  50. Posted July 25, 2009 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    First — I dont want your prayers… They are no doubt tainted…

    SECOND… This >>>>

    “Equal Tax Treatment: Individuals must be able to purchase healthcare in the same tax-advantaged way as business does today. Today healthcare premiums are tax deductible to business, but not to individuals – a policy that resulted from World War II-era wage and price controls and is now out of date. Policymakers should level the playing field and make individual healthcare expenses tax deductible – thereby enabling individual responsibility.”

    THIS is not a LAW… It is a PROPOSAL from a special interest group, as per your link above…
    ____________________

    “Those 2 points aren’t connected.” [DFB]

    Nor did I connect them… see my remedies to your four points in my above post…. Of course they are separate points… Geez….

  51. DFB
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    THIS is not a LAW… It is a PROPOSAL from a special interest group, as per your link above…

    Cheese and rice!!!!!!! Can you freaking read???? Of COURSE it’s a proposal! They’re proposing to CHANGE THE LAW that doesn’t allow individuals to deduct health insurance premiums! Exactly like I said in the very first posting! That’s the point!!!!!
    Or are you just switching opinions midstream again, like you did with the Const Convention debate and trying to act like somehow you’re making a lick of sense…well, besides to yourself that is. I have no doubt the voices in your head that keep you company are laughing at you too by now!

  52. Posted July 25, 2009 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    For IRS Medical Insurance Deductions, on Form 1040, Schedule A, see the following >>>>

    http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040sa.pdf

  53. Posted July 25, 2009 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    For self-employed health insurance deductions, and work sheet, see here >>>>

    http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040.pdf

  54. Posted July 25, 2009 at 5:38 pm | Permalink

    “Cheese and rice!!!!!!! Can you freaking read???? Of COURSE it’s a proposal! They’re proposing to CHANGE THE LAW that doesn’t allow individuals to deduct health insurance premiums! Exactly like I said in the very first posting! That’s the point!!!!” [DFB]

    Yea, from an INSURANCE SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP… That website you linked to is attempting to influence the Congress… That’s why it’s a problem… This thing is NOT a government proposal… It comes from the CAHR…..

  55. Posted July 25, 2009 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    Since I have now posted links for you concerning HOW individuals and slef-employed individuals are ALREADY allowed to deduct for health insurance premiums….

    I am going to cease further comment….

    Back to work…. Bye for now!! And have a nice evening!! OUT now!!! (as in signed off)

  56. DFB
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    Ok Chas..for the last time…why would a lobbying group need to “influence congress” to give individuals the same tax treatment companies get if THEY ALREADY DID???? Can you even comprehend how stupid the argument is that you’re making????
    Now, as for posting the itemized deduction schedule as “proof”..are businesses allowed to deduct every dollar they spend on health premiums for their employees? Yes. Are individuals allowed the same? No.
    Individuals, on their itemized deductions, first must exceed the standard deduction hurdle to be able to itemize. Then, they can only deduct spending on health insurance/deductibles/etc that exceed 7.5% of the GROSS income..and that’s IF they can itemize their deductions anyway. Their tax treatment is NOT THE SAME CHAS. Hence the push to EQUALIZE TAX TREATMENT!
    Again, you need to stick to children’s books or something with pictures..you and words seem to be at odds with each other.

  57. Hud
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    From WILI:

    Group insurance is an insurance that covers a group of people, usually who are the members of societies, employees of a common employer, or professionals in a common group.

  58. Hud
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    WILI = WIKI

    New computer they must have moved some of the keys.

  59. Posted July 25, 2009 at 7:28 pm | Permalink

    kansas history if you like it
    http://kansasmediocrity.wordpress.com/2009/07/25/first-kansas-colored-infantry/

  60. Posted July 25, 2009 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    Hud, my qwerty keyboard moves keys by the minute.

  61. DFB
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    Hud – have you ever seen the “society” or trade org type healthcare policies? They’re pretty much equivalent to the kind of policies you can buy on TV. They have like $500K or $1M lifetime max’s, a VERY limited doctor list, if you can find one that will take them, and usually come with significant deductibles, and higher co-pays after you’ve met the deductible.

  62. Regular
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 7:39 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for the history, sekan -

  63. Posted July 25, 2009 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

    For self-employed health insurance deductions, and work sheet, see here >>>>

    http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040.pdf

  64. Maggotpunk
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    Good news, I managed to get a copy of the Republican health care plan.

    http://farm1.static.flickr.com/48/154164029_590a6dc74f.jpg

  65. Phantom
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    They’re creepy and they’re kooky,
    Mysterious and spooky,
    They’re all together ooky,
    The C-Street Family.

    Their house is a museum.
    When ladies come to see ‘em
    They really are a screa-um.
    The C-Street Family.

    (Snap,snap)

  66. Posted July 25, 2009 at 11:58 pm | Permalink

    #
    sekanblogger
    Posted July 25, 2009 at 7:28 pm | Permalink

    kansas history if you like it
    http://kansasmediocrity.wordpress.com/2009/07/25/first-kansas-colored-infantry/
    ==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-

    Good stuff…thanks for that.

  67. Monkeyhawk
    Posted July 26, 2009 at 1:22 am | Permalink

    Scott Roeder speaks from jail –

    From today’s Kansas City Star –

    In a phone interview Friday, Roeder said he was upset at the president of Operation Rescue, Troy Newman, who had condemned the killing and said his organization had nothing to do with Roeder.

    “He said that I never was a member and I never contributed any money,” Roeder said. “Well, my gosh, I’ve got probably a thousand dollars worth of receipts, at least, from the money I’ve donated to him.”

    Roeder said he wrote Newman a letter from jail.

    “I told him, ‘You better get your story straight because my lawyer said it’d be good for me to show that I was supporting a pro-life organization.’?”