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Your Sunday Morning Cartoon –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IOvEo9f4bk&feature=related
Your Sunday Morning Hymn –
http://www.cmt.com/videos/phil-vassar/404377/bobbi-with-an-i.jhtml?
Your Sunday Morning sermon –
http://www.newsweek.com/id/207406/output/print
Good ol’ Exxon. While the oil companies are saying they need more oil there’s Exxon destroying their oil wells so we can’t get more oil.
http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/07/18/exxon-faces-1-billion-fine-for-sabotaging-texas-oil-wells/
If this was done by anyone other than an oil company it would be called an act of terrorism. However Exxon may face a paltry $1 billion fine, which, by the time it gets through the courts, might be as high as $50 million dollars.
Monkeyhawk
Posted July 19, 2009 at 6:20 am | Permalink
Your Sunday Morning sermon –
http://www.newsweek.com/id/207406/output/print
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And all the people said: AMEN(or maybe AWOMEN)
Forget a sermon, here is reality and the true
Revelations. The apocalypse is coming, but
the smurfs running Congress are still skipping and laughing:
http://www.senate.gov/fplayers/CommPlayer/commFlashPlayer.cfm?fn=budget071609&st=960
On this date, June 19th, record setting temperatures for Wichita Kansas
High: 109 °F (2006)
Low: 61 °F (1947)
Juneteenth
Juneteenth is the oldest nationally celebrated commemoration of the ending of slavery in the United States.
From its Galveston, Texas origin in 1865, the observance of June 19th as the African American Emancipation Day has spread across the United States and beyond.
Today Juneteenth commemorates African American freedom and emphasizes education and achievement. It is a day, a week, and in some areas a month marked with celebrations, guest speakers, picnics and family gatherings. It is a time for reflection and rejoicing. It is a time for assessment, self-improvement and for planning the future. Its growing popularity signifies a level of maturity and dignity in America long over due. In cities across the country, people of all races, nationalities and religions are joining hands to truthfully acknowledge a period in our history that shaped and continues to influence our society today. Sensitized to the conditions and experiences of others, only then can we make significant and lasting improvements in our society.
http://www.juneteenth.com/
“Regular”
Posted July 19, 2009 at 8:14 am –
“Juneteenth….”
Uhm.
That was last month.
Regular, thanks for reminding us of an important celebration reflecting on some of our fellow American citizens and their heritage.
It is most appropriate in light of King Obama Smurfs recent trip to where it all began.
“While the media focused its attention on Judge Sonia Sotomayor’s nomination to the Supreme Court, liberals in the House of Representatives introduced a health care “reform” package that will cost $245 billion a year by 2019.
Heritage Foundation blogger Conn Carroll digs into an alarming aspect of the legislation: it will effectively regulate your private health insurance plan out of business. Here’s how it works, as Carroll explains:
[A]ll health insurance plans must confirm to a slew of new regulations, including community rating and guaranteed issue. These will all drive up the cost of health insurance. Furthermore, all these new regs would not apply just to individual insurance plans, but to all insurance plans. So the House bill will also drive up the cost of your existing employer coverage. Until, of course, it becomes too expensive and they just dump you into the government plan.
And all this will come at a huge cost to taxpayers. According to estimates from the Congressional Budget Office, the price tag of these “reforms” will soar after 2012, reaching as high as $245 billion in 2019. (Curious, isn’t it, that the costs increase only after 2012? What happens in 2012?)
Not only that, but the plan will cost taxpayers more than $800 billion in new taxes over the next decade. If you count state income taxes, the top marginal tax rate will top 50 percent in many states—and five states will have higher top rates than any European country expect Denmark. (France’s top rate is 45.8 percent, and Germany’s is 47.47 percent.)
Needless to say, this will be a disaster for the economy. “This runaway spending, coupled with the Democrats plans to raise taxes, will kill our struggling economy and leave us with double digit unemployment for years to come,” Heritage’s Conn Carroll writes. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office comes to a similar conclusion.”
- Nathaniel Ward
Under questioning by members of the Senate Budget Committee, Douglas Elmendorf, director of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, said
bills crafted by House leaders and the Senate health committee do not propose “the sort of fundamental changes” necessary to rein in the
skyrocketing cost of government health programs, particularly Medicare.
On the contrary, Elmendorf said, the measures would pile on an expensive new program to cover the uninsured. ”
In fact, by congress own estimate, this expensive bill which will tear away the heart of the entire US healthcare system and add layers of paperwork to private insurers and the newly hired public – will only result in insurance coverage for 32 million of the claimed uninsured – and only over a ten year period.
If you WANT to take care of the truly needy – tell congress to stop this rushed emergency nonsense. Tell them to take their time, debate the merits of each item publicly, carefully deliberate, and examine all the details and their impact on ALL Americans.
You have your majority, you have your white house, there is no reason to rush through another bad bill. You have the resources and power to put together a good bill to help the so-called 49 million.
Don’t let King Obama Smurf continue to pull your strings. Stop bowing down to him.
Try to remember our constitution set up three equal parts of government for a reason.
My mom just spent $50,000 of the government’s money at $500 per day in Medicare funded rehab. As she is dying of cancer and is 90, there was only a small chance she could benefit from such therapy. Now there’s the sticky wicket. One in a hundred (or maybe million) such people do benefit and return home. Do you deny the care, or do you treat my mother the same as a 65-year-old who could rehabilitated. If you pick the latter, national health care will never work in this country. I wonder what Canada and England do?
I also agree with those who claim that health insurance itself is responsible for the run-away cost of care in this country.
Since we’re dead broke and healthcare reform is too critical to rush, why would it not be prudent and pragmatic to try the free options first?
For example:
Tort Reform – does anyone feel sorry for those oppressed injury lawyers? For Dems, just remember, they’re part of that evil rich crowd. I’m not suggesting eliminating the ability to file claims for egregious malpractice. I’m simply suggesting lawyers shouldn’t get 50%+ of a settlement, and the claimant/lawyer should have skin in the game for filing frivolous lawsuits (ie, loser pays when deemed frivolous). This would not only help health/malpractice insurance, it would help auto, work comp, prop & casualty, homeowners, etc. The biggest savings in this factor is the reduction of defensive medicine practices.
Hold Harmless Agreements – if you trust your doctor, why should it be illegal for you to enter into a mutually agreeable (and optional) liability waiver which would allow your treatment to fall outside of malpractice coverage? You HAVE to sign one to sky dive, would it not be more logical to allow one in a situation where you trust the doctor who’s pledged an oath to do no harm? Would this not also futher eliminate defensive medicine costs on an individual basis?
Health Club Fee Structure – the Dem talking heads quote the overhead of $.30 on the $1 going to costs not care driven. So why not allow doctors to offer flat fee monthly dues for primary care that eliminates the health insurance company altogether? Especially in rural areas where there’s only 1 or 2 doc/hospital options in the first place. It would eliminate overhead on the doc’s practice as well, as filing/re-filing claims is ridiculous. How attractive might it be to someone to be able to pay a fixed fee to doc of their choice, in the range of $40-$75/month for limited/unlimited use for basic care? If a doc wanted to get fancy, he/she could offer catastrophic coverage via the same re-insurance mkt the insurance companies use for things like hospital/specialist care. Even if that’s a stretch, would it not at least provide cheap primary/preventative care?
Larger Pools – if big companies get cheaper rates because of their larger pools and the spreading of risk, why is it illegal for small business/self employeds to band together to form larger pools? Probably one of the more assinine legislative moves that rarely gets talked about.
Tax Treatment – ok, this one’s not “free”, but it’s a LOT cheaper than what’s being discussed. Why is it large corp’s get tax deductions for their contributions to healthcare premiums (as well as Sec 125 cafeteria tax free treatment for employees), yet self-employeds/small business isn’t allowed to deduct their premiums merely based on the entity structure?
Beber – I can empathize with your quandry & pain, as I’ve been through the same situation with both my parents, although they were much younger.
I think the crux of that decision is at the heart of the health debate. Summed up as simply this, who do you want making that decision and if you disagree with the decision, do you have a better recourse route with the govt or private industry?
“I wonder what Canada and England do?”
As I understand NICE the cost ($50,000) is above the $22,000 limit so in England she would not have received treatment.
Beber sorry to hear about your mother. Hope you get to say the things you have wanted to say and spend the time you want to spend with her. Sudden and unexpected loss of a loved one did not allow for that in my circumstances. I hope your mother is one in a million. She is probably one in a million regardless.
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DFB
Posted July 19, 2009 at 9:35 am | Permalink
Summed up as simply this, who do you want making that decision and if you disagree with the decision, do you have a better recourse route with the govt or private industry?
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Good question, DFB. What do you think the answer is?
XXX – IMHO, the govt is the umpire. You never win an argument with an umpire (though I tried often in my jock days! ha), you can’t fight City Hall, pick your cliche’, they’re all accurate. As long as the one making the rules, isn’t playing the game, the chances at recourse and a fair game is higher. With that being said, private industry, as long as it’s coupled with personal input.
A drug deal plays out, California-style:
A conservatively dressed courier drives a company-leased Smart Car to an apartment on a weekday afternoon. Erick Alvaro hands over a white paper bag to his 58-year-old customer, who inspects the bag to ensure that everything he ordered over the phone is there.
An eighth-ounce of organic marijuana buds for treating his seasonal allergies? Check. An eighth of a different strain for insomnia? Check. THC-infused lozenges and tea bags? Check and check, with a free herb-laced cookie thrown in as a thank-you gift.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2009496835_pot19.html
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Offered without comment
DFB
Posted July 19, 2009 at 10:07 am
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DFB, I just went through some really stupid zhit with my insurance company. Otherwise, I might tend to agree.
“DFB” poses –
“…if you disagree with the decision, do you have a better recourse route with the govt or private industry?”
Which entity has elected representatives to help you make your case to a government bureaucrat and which entity hires bureaucrats who answer only to stock-holders?
I’m “represented” in Congress by a rock-ribbed, wingnut, Repubic Party lackey and I still think she or her staff might be better advocates for me than some actuary at Cigna. Because I can vote her out of office if I work hard enough.
I don’t have that option against a corporate CEO or his lackeys.
every human is one in 6 bilion
sorry sufing in tub
Someone is slamming our next U.S. Congressman (Raj Goyle) for what he calls his “career” as a lecturer at Wichita State University. I mean, he taught one class for one semster. Isn’t that enough? Its at http://bit.ly/2KV8U
“The British prescription for health care continues to be typified by the phrase “Take A Seat.” There is a remarkable complacency among a population which readily accepts the notorious British National Health Service (HNS) waiting lists for necessary hospital treatment. As the 20th century ended there were 1.12 million ever-suffering souls patiently waiting for needed hospitalization. This appears to be the price for “free care. One usually gets what one pays for. There is no doubt but that disabled Americans would be a great deal more impatient regarding their desire for prompt quality service than our British cousins.
The British Health Service continues to announce that the official list of those waiting for care is shrinking. This is simply not so; what has happened is that waiting lists to get on waiting lists have been created. After waiting to be seen by a family physician a British patient incapacitated with a spine problem may have to linger for more than a year to see a specialist. It is up to the specialist to determine the urgency of the case and to order any specialized tests. After the wait for the tests and the results (often a process of months) the next wait, of about a year, for surgery begins. Are things getting better? As of May, 2001 all indications were that the British National Health Service continued to “languish from bureaucracy, demoralization and capricious medical fads” (clearly not a formula for success). ( Lawlor S: Britian’s Nationalized Medicine Needs Doctoring, The Wall Street Journal Europe, May 3, 2001).
” Do you deny the care, or do you treat my mother the same as a 65-year-old who could rehabilitated.”
March 2009
“WAITING times for cancer treatment need to be cut, the Scottish Government was told yesterday.
The Scotland Against Cancer conference in Glasgow heard Nicola Sturgeon, the health secretary, setting out what was being done to improve cancer care for Scottish patients.
But one cancer survivor, who spoke at the Cancer Research UK event, challenged ministers to be more ambitious in reducing the time patients have to wait before starting treatment.
Cancer experts later said that patients elsewhere in Europe would be “outraged” by having to wait two months to start treatment, with most being seen within two weeks.
The current target of 62 days from urgent referral by a doctor to starting treatment has still not been met in Scotland, despite that originally being the target figure for 2005.
Ms Sturgeon stressed that the 62-day target was a maximum wait and many patients would start treatment much sooner.
Heather Goodare, who was diagnosed with breast cancer in 1986 when living in West Sussex, thanked Ms Sturgeon for the initiatives she had put in place to improve cancer care. But she challenged her over the “very unambitious” 62-day target.
“For some slow-growing cancers 31 days is perfectly OK, but for others it is just not acceptable at all,” she told the health secretary.
Mrs Goodare, who now lives in Edinburgh, said when she was diagnosed over 22 years ago, she had to wait only two weeks before having surgery to remove the lump from her breast.
“I don’t understand why things have gone backwards,” she said.
Ms Sturgeon said everyone in the NHS had worked together to reduce waiting times and they were now very close to hitting the 62-day mark.”
- The Scotsman
WORLD’S POPULATION OF 100-YEAR-OLD COULD REACH 6 MILLION
Sunday, July 19, 2009
The number of centenarians already has jumped from an estimated few thousand in 1950 to more than 340,000 worldwide today, with the highest concentrations in the U.S. and Japan, according to the latest Census Bureau figures.
In the U.S., centenarians are expected to increase from 75,000 to more than 600,000 by midcentury. Those primarily are baby boomers hitting the 100-year mark. Their population growth could add to rising government costs for the strained Medicare and Social Security programs.
(ObamaCare will cut costs by ensuring that we have fewer people reaching the age of 100 in the near future.)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533868,00.html?test=latestnews
I’m sorry, you need heart by-pass surgery, but you are over age 60.
No Can Do.
ObamaCare
I’m sorry, you need chemo therapy to treat your cancer, but you are over age 60.
No Can Do.
ObamaCare
Oh, you need a free abortion? Have a seat for a moment. We’ll get you taken care of within 30 minutes.
ObamaCare
Oh, sure you have lung cancer, but we can help you with that. In just 6 months, we can start treating you.
We hope you can wait that long! (wink-wink)
ObamaCare
Conservative nonprofit offered clout to FedEx — for millions
The American Conservative Union asked for up to $3.4 million to support the carrier in a legislative battle. When the firm refused, the group’s president backed rival UPS’ position and blasted FedEx.
By Andrew Zajac
July 19, 2009
Reporting from Washington — In an unusual look inside Washington’s lobbying culture, a sequence of letters published last week exposed how a conservative nonprofit advocacy group apparently tried to sell its clout in a legislative battle between FedEx and UPS.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-na-delivery19-2009jul19,0,3106776.story
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Follow the money…..
My great aunt was 91 and on Medicaid.
She was never denied any care and was always treated promptly.
I could fill ten threads with the crap I have gone through with insurance providers.
Health care is a right in a civilized society. The time is now and long overdue.
MH writes:
“Which entity has elected representatives to help you make your case to a government bureaucrat and which entity hires bureaucrats who answer only to stock-holders?”
I’m “represented” in Congress by a rock-ribbed, wingnut, Repubic Party lackey and I still think she or her staff might be better advocates for me than some actuary at Cigna.”
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The simple fallacy in this logic is that your “rock-ribbed wingnut” only represents you and that your feelings are more valid than people that feel exactly opposite from what you feel who are represented by the same “wingnut”. Politics injected into any matter are destructive.
Secondly, that Cigna, or any other insurance company, is your only option. If govt takes over, who do you turn to when you feel wronged? You can vote with your purchasing dollars every day of the week (ie, buy diff insurance, press your employer to change carriers, change jobs, buy no insurance, etc). You only get to vote for 1 of 435 Representatives every 2 yrs. Your Rep’s vote within those 435 may mean nothing if your Rep isn’t on the right committee, and more specifically Chairing that committee.
All of that aside, what issues do you have with the ideas I posted above for free/relatively free reforms?
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JimJohnson
Posted July 19, 2009 at 10:56 am | Permalink
I’m sorry, you need heart by-pass surgery, but you are over age 60.
No Can Do.
ObamaCare
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JimJohnson
Posted July 19, 2009 at 10:57 am | Permalink
I’m sorry, you need chemo therapy to treat your cancer, but you are over age 60.
No Can Do.
ObamaCare
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JimJohnson
Posted July 19, 2009 at 10:58 am | Permalink
Oh, you need a free abortion? Have a seat for a moment. We’ll get you taken care of within 30 minutes.
ObamaCare
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JimJohnson
Posted July 19, 2009 at 11:00 am | Permalink
Oh, sure you have lung cancer, but we can help you with that. In just 6 months, we can start treating you.
We hope you can wait that long! (wink-wink)
ObamaCare
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Proof? Something to base this on?
Just more of the usual carping.
Gosh XXX,
Show me one Government Program that CUT COSTS and IMPROVED SERVICE.
ObamaCare would be the very first.
(Sprinkled with fairydust, of course.)
As for examples, look to Canada, Britain, and European Socialist countries. I know a woman in Eastern Europe, her father was diagnosed with lung cancer at an early stage. Was scheduled for treatment JUST six months later. (Because he was 67 years old)
He died before his first treatment.
BTW XXX,
YOU have PROOF ObamaCare will improve healthcare for all Americans?
Or are you just carping?
You want anything, as long as it’s free, admit it. You could care less about quality.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_G-EWSfJ1PwE/SmE5jGDxu1I/AAAAAAAAA7Y/QqtC59pDqs8/s1600-h/banfascism.jpg
“Health care is a right in a civilized society”
ahhh…let’s find that in some documentation somewhere, shall we?
From a well known document: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”
Hmmmm…did I miss something? Health care is conspicuously missing. When did it become a RIGHT?
JimJohnson
Posted July 19, 2009 at 11:12 am | Permalink
Gosh XXX,
Show me one Government Program that CUT COSTS and IMPROVED SERVICE.
ObamaCare would be the very first.
(Sprinkled with fairydust, of course.)
As for examples, look to Canada, Britain, and European Socialist countries.
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European socialist countries? LOL LOL!
We the people, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare,
How do you have a more perfect union when part of the population cannot afford health care?
Where is the justice that some can afford face lifts and tummy tucks while others cannot even see a doctor?
Where is the justice in that? That is perfect justice in a system that allows people to earn as much as they can–or as much as they are willing to work for.
Would you prefer a system where everyone is paid at the SAME level? Worked really well for the Soviet collectives, didn’t it?
BTW XXX,
YOU have PROOF ObamaCare will improve healthcare for all Americans?
Or are you just carping?
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You have PROOF that it won’t?
Show me where I’ve carped.
In fact, I’ve been pretty quiet about my opinions on what healthcare reform should look like. I’m concerned with things like the way insurance companies handle pre-existing conditions. I worry about healthcare for children and the elderly.
I’m not convinced that throwing money at the issue is the ultimate answer.
“Show me one Government Program that CUT COSTS and IMPROVED SERVICE.”
Social Security has a pretty good track record of providing service for low cost.
If we could only keep Congress from stealing the program blind…
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JimJohnson
Posted July 19, 2009 at 11:13 am | Permalink
You want anything, as long as it’s free, admit it. You could care less about quality.
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Show me where I’ve said anything like that.
You have PROOF that it won’t?
What is it with all the ‘prove the negative’ arguments these days?
“If we could only keep Congress from stealing the program blind…”
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XXX – yet another reason to keep healthcare out of govt hands. It’s illegal for private companies to pull off this scheme, it’s standard operating procedure for govt (SS, Medicare, Part D, Fed Pensions, fiat currency). Why would any reasonable person expect this to suddenly be different?
BJ – care to shed the platitudes for a second and answer the debt/how to pay questions from last night? I’ve never seen a platitude or a right pay a bill.
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Regular
Posted July 19, 2009 at 11:44 am | Permalink
You have PROOF that it won’t?
What is it with all the ‘prove the negative’ arguments these days?
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If one is going to insinuate the negative….
There is very little semblance of anything APPROACHING justice in the way this country deals with labor and compensation raptor.
Do you imagine some poor schlub working for Wal mart is pursuing happiness?
People are only as free as they are entitled and guaranteed by their government to be. Beyond the protections of that, they are slaves to whoever has the most money.
“Go do what I say when I say or you are free to suffer and die.” That’s what YOU’RE defending.
DFB
Posted July 19, 2009 at 11:47 am | Permalink
XXX – yet another reason to keep healthcare out of govt hands.
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Or maybe it’s time to clean up government. But then government really doesn’t belong to us anymore.
XXX – would agree 100% there, which is why I’ve posted my state petitioned Const Convention via Article V a few times. The amendments that would have a legitimate chance of getting ratified by 38 states are all ones that DC would hate, which might scare them straight (term limits, bal budget, eliminating redistricting games, fed referendum ballot options, etc). They’re not scared of the ballot box, when 95%+ of incumbents are re-elected and they’ve got the Treasury as a warchest.
As the 20th century ended there were 1.12 million ever-suffering souls patiently waiting for needed hospitalization. . . . .
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News flash, the 20th century ended over 9 years ago.
The British system has no reduced waiting times to US and Europe.
Oh, and they do it by spending one-half of what we spend and cover everyone.
Correction: the British system has NOW reduced
“Do you imagine some poor schlub working for Wal mart is pursuing happiness?”
We have friends who work at Walmart. One is my long lost fishing partner (we both don’t get out). Another husband and wife have kids who were friends with my kids growing up and played sports with them.
They appear just as happy as anyone else. They seem to enjoy get togethers, BBQ’s, and events.
Is there something I should be looking for that would indicate they are not happy or have problems?
The British prescription for health care continues to be typified by the phrase “Take A Seat.” There is a remarkable complacency among a population which readily accepts the notorious British National Health Service (HNS) waiting lists for necessary hospital treatment. As the 20th century ended there were 1.12 million ever-suffering souls patiently waiting for needed hospitalization. This appears to be the price for “free care. One usually gets what one pays for. There is no doubt but that disabled Americans would be a great deal more impatient regarding their desire for prompt quality service than our British cousins.
The British Health Service continues to announce that the official list of those waiting for care is shrinking. This is simply not so; what has happened is that waiting lists to get on waiting lists have been created. After waiting to be seen by a family physician a British patient incapacitated with a spine problem may have to linger for more than a year to see a specialist. It is up to the specialist to determine the urgency of the case and to order any specialized tests. After the wait for the tests and the results (often a process of months) the next wait, of about a year, for surgery begins. Are things getting better? As of May, 2001 all indications were that the British National Health Service continued to “languish from bureaucracy, demoralization and capricious medical fads” (clearly not a formula for success). ( Lawlor S: Britian’s Nationalized Medicine Needs Doctoring, The Wall Street Journal Europe, May 3, 2001).
There are some indications (however slight) that the seemingly inexorable rise of the socialistic mentality (along with its more virulent cousins, fascism and communism) may have reached their “high tide.” Friederich von Hayek (1899-1992) Austrian economist who was a co-winner of the 1972 Nobel Prize in Economics and founder of the Mont Pelerin Society in 1947 may have been finally been taken seriously by at least one major player. As privatization has replaced socialism throughout the world the British government (and others) is now turning to partial reimbursement for private health care in order to create a diversified market (Bartley RL: About Freedom in the Free World, Wall St. Jour, October 14, 2002). This represents a timid first step in a positive direction
“The British system has no[w] reduced waiting times to US and Europe. Oh, and they do it by spending one-half of what we spend and cover everyone.”
“Thousands of kidney cancer patients are likely to lose out on life-prolonging drugs.
The NHS rationing body, NICE, has confirmed a ban on three out of four new treatments.
It has reversed its position on just one, Sutent, which will now be allowed for patients with advanced cancer. But campaigners who fought NICE’s original blanket ban said this was not enough. They said some patients with heart problems cannot tolerate Sutent.
Kate Spall, head of the Pamela Northcott Fund campaign group, said the ruling meant that fewer than half of newly diagnosed patients would be eligible for therapy.
She added: ‘Families will be denied time together and doctors will be unable to give patients the best treatment.’
Campaigners are angry that NICE appears to have ignored new official guidelines widening access to life-prolonging drugs.
Sutent, also known as sunitinib, can double the life expectancy of patients, to 28 months, compared with standard interferon treatment. It costs around £24,000 a year.
The rejected drugs – bevacizumab (Avastin), sorafenib (Nexavar) and temsirolimus (Torisel) – have similar costs and are used in other countries.
Nicole Farmer, of Bayer Schering Pharma Oncology, which makes Nexavar, said: ‘This shows why the UK sits 16 out of 18 EU countries with regard to cancer outcomes’. ”
- Daily Mail UK, 29 April, 2009
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Healthday/Story?id=8105118&page=2
How’s that abstinence-only sex-ed working out?
Oops, not so good:
Birth rates among U.S. teens increased in 2006 and 2007, following large declines from 1991 to 2005, according to a new U.S. government study.
*****
In other words, the sex-ed BEFORE Bush instituted ignorance-is-best sex-ed dropped unwanted pregnancies, but then once that policy kicked in, pregnancy and STD’s went up.
Ignorance doesn’t work as well as education. Who knew?
““The British system has no[w] reduced waiting times to US and Europe. Oh, and they do it by spending one-half of what we spend and cover everyone.”
“A three-year-old girl awaiting heart surgery has had her operation cancelled three times this month because of a shortage of beds.
Ella Cotterell was due to have aorta-widening surgery on Monday at the Children’s Hospital, Bristol. But 48 hours beforehand, the operation was cancelled for the third time as all 15 beds in the intensive care unit were occupied, her parents said.
A hospital spokesman said that procedures would be reviewed, but the case highlights a growing problem of cancelled operations in the NHS.
More than 57,000 surgeries were postponed for non-clinical reasons, including a lack of beds, last year – 10 per cent more than the previous year.
Latest figures show that the problem persists. At least 43,000 operations were cancelled in the first nine months of 2008-09, with nearly 1,800 patients not being treated within 28 days of their original scheduled date.
Among the excuses for cancellation the previous year were a hospital running out of shavers to prepare patients for surgery, a surgeon going missing following a fire alarm, and a patient’s translator failing to turn up. ”
Times Online (UK) 23 April, 2009
You catch that CapnAmerica?
“More than 57,000 surgeries were postponed for non-clinical reasons, including a lack of beds, last year – 10 per cent more than the previous year. “ UK
AmWay–
If people were denied medical care that people in the US were getting, our lifespans would be longer than theirs.
It’s not.
Statistics. Try them sometime.
“NHS and social services in England are failing to meet the health needs of people with learning disabilities, investigators say.
The Health Service and Local Government Ombudsmen said the standard of care was an “indictment of our society” after reviewing the deaths of six people.
They found one man died as a result of failings in his care, while a second death could have been avoided.
The government said it was taking steps to address the problems.
The ombudsmen investigated the cases after they were highlighted by the charity Mencap.
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CARE LINKED TO DEATH
Mark Cannon – The 30-year-old died eight weeks after being admitted to hospital with a broken leg. He waited three days to see a pain team and developed an infection. Complaints were upheld against the hospital and council – he was in a care home when he was first injured. The ombudsmen ruled care contributed to death.
Martin Ryan – Died several weeks after having stroke. While in hospital, the 43-year-old went 26 days without being fed. The hospital was criticised: death could have been avoided if care had been better.”
BBC 23 March, 2009
Sorry Captain, beyond the basics, genetics and life style have a hell of a lot more to do with longevity than health care.
“The British system has now reduced waiting times to US and Europe.”
CapnAmerica, don’t dance around your above post.
For every case of a Canadian’s health being compromised by the Canadian health care system I can find 100 cases where an American’s health was compromised because he or she couldn’t pay for care. Just more continual RW BS.
Life expectancy and Infant Mortality are often used as buzz phrases by the left as an “excuse” to socialize medicine in America.
But make up your mind: Is Congress working to improve the “quality of care”, or “lower costs”, or “decrease waiting times”?
I suspect the fact that we are a melting pot of people from all over the world, live generally unhealthy lifestyles (particularly the older Americans who didn’t have the benefit of growing up with knowledge of unhealthy practices), being overweight, and many other reasons contribute to life expectancy.
It’s not “bad” doctors or “expensive” medicine.
These are koolaid shots regurgitated often. But they have no bearing on reality nor the present legislation in Congress.
That’s fine Berber – but CapnAmerica made a claim about the UK…..
If he can dish it out (find an example) the reverse applies too.
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CapnAmerica
Posted July 19, 2009 at 12:22 pm | Permalink
AmWay–
If people were denied medical care that people in the US were getting, our lifespans would be longer than theirs.
It’s not.
Statistics. Try them sometime.
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And folks that try to mislead use them, don’t they Capn?
While in hospital, the 43-year-old went 26 days without being fed.
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Well, you’ve got a point there, AmWay.
Under the American system, this could never happen.
Because under for-profit private insurance, they’d never let you STAY in a hospital more than a few days . . .
“Children in Britain are being failed by a culture that gives them low priority, exposing them to poor healthcare, knife crime and sexually transmitted diseases, according to the outgoing head of the Healthcare Commission.
Sir Ian Kennedy, appointed to lead the watchdog after his 2001 report into child deaths after heart surgery in Bristol, said that despite the regulatory body’s successes, progress on the care of children had not been as great as he would have liked. “What is getting in the way of doing what almost all right-minded people would think was a fundamental social obligation to its next generation? I wish I knew the answer.”
From hospital care to protection from violence and guidance on drinking, children were not getting the help they needed, he said. “I find it an unhappy indictment of the society we live in that we pay so little attention when we could pay more to those who obviously deserve our care.” Finger-pointing and blame would lead nowhere, he said.
Two Healthcare Commission reports into the care of children in hospital, one published a week ago, found serious inadequacies despite the high priority the commission has tried to give children over the last five years. Many staff were not trained to spot abuse, give pain relief or resuscitate a child who had stopped breathing.
A further report into Birmingham children’s hospital published yesterday raised concerns about poor standards and delays in treating sick children.”
Guardian Unlimited (UK) March 2009
By the way, according to the original article, the investigators found that 2 people died from poor care in two YEARS.
Wow. How many die here because of big for-profit insurance CORPs telling people to go to hell?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7959730.stm
Here’s the original article.
Six possible cases of medical neglience over two years.
If this were here, we’d be cheering how much better things are.
The U.S. health care system may contribute to poor health or death. According to Dr. Barbara Starfield of the Johns Hopkins School of Hygiene and Public Health, 250,000 deaths per year are caused by medical errors, making this the third-largest cause of death in the U.S., following heart disease and cancer.
Writing in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), Dr. Starfield has documented the tragedy of the traditional medical paradigm in the following statistics:
http://www.naturodoc.com/library/public_health/doctors_cause_death.htm
Fortunately someone in Wichita knows what they’re talking about, and can debunk some of the leters the Wichita Eagle has printd lately, including one by Brad Beachey, a well-known socialist in Wichita.
http://bit.ly/eMAZn
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN07651650
US worst in preventable death ranking
Tue Jan 8, 2008
WASHINGTON, Jan 8 (Reuters) – France, Japan and Australia rated best and the United States worst in new rankings focusing on preventable deaths due to treatable conditions in 19 leading industrialized nations, researchers said on Tuesday.
If the U.S. health care system performed as well as those of those top three countries, there would be 101,000 fewer deaths in the United States per year, according to researchers writing in the journal Health Affairs.
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Yeah, b-b-but a kid in England had to wait three days to see a pain team.
Message of Capn’s article:
“NHS and social services in England are failing to meet the health needs of people with learning disabilities, investigators say.”
It has nothing to do with the overall number of preventable deaths.
Still misleading, eh Capn?
Hey, outlander–
Abstinence ed has proven to be a failure.
Big surprise, eh?
“DFB” alleges –
“You can vote with your purchasing dollars every day of the week.”
Ha!
Try getting private insurance if one company determines a “pre-existing condition.” Any “pre-existing condition.”
Nataline Sarkisyan was denied life-saving surgery in 2007 because the actuaries at Cigna discovered she’d not mentioned on her insurance application a visit to her podiatrist when she was 12 years old.
They canceled her coverage until political and public and media coverage forced them to approve the procedure… one day after Nataline died.
For Cigna and its stock-holders that was considered a victory.
Canceling coverage for long-enrolled subscribers is a great trick used by for-profit health insurance companies. They’ll collect your inflated premiums all the way right up to the moment you need coverage.
That’s what CONs are defending.
And that evil “SOCIALIST!!!!” Obama is merely asking those good capitalist insurance companies to compete with less excluding business models.
You CONs sometimes belong in a freak show, what with all you contortionist approaches to common sense.
It’s like Tom Coburn claiming he has “doctor-patient confidentiality” from his recommendation John Ensign pay off his concubine and her husband (Ensign’s BFF until… well, y’know).
Coburn is an OB/GYN. I somehow doubt Ensign put his feet in the stirrups. But then, ya never know these days what happens in the C Street House; where, as “Kansas_Heffalump” noted, Sam (the Sham) Brownback “…was merely playing the piano downstairs.”
Put your myths to the test, “DFB.”
Cancel whatever health insurance coverage you now have first thing in the morning and apply for coverage from as many other companies as you like.
Then tell us the result.
Brad Beachey, a well-known socialist in Wichita.
(smirks)
Good point, MH.
For every anecdote of poor care or waits under Nationalized medicine, one can fine a thousand under our system.
“And folks that try to mislead use them, don’t they Capn?”
Especially concealed carry proponents.
And if you want to get downright nasty about it, if you take blacks out of the U.S. Stats, Americans live as long as anyone.
Just one of the things we don’t talk about very much.
Beber–
Meaning if you take out “the poor and uninsured,” Americans live as long as anyone.
Interesting.
Maybe that’s why the status-quo media don’t talk about it–they don’t want to discuss how the land of the American dream fails the poor.
Government Justice
S.F. judge skipped chance to jail Mitchell
Michael Cabanatuan, Chronicle Staff Writer
Saturday, July 18, 2009
SAN FRANCISCO — Eleven days before James Raphael Mitchell allegedly beat his ex-girlfriend to death, San Francisco probation officials asked a judge to send him to jail for a month for skipping a court hearing in a domestic violence case involving the woman.
Instead, Superior Court Judge Mary Morgan sentenced Mitchell to two days, court records show – and stayed the sentence.
On Sunday, police say, Mitchell – whose former girlfriend Danielle Keller, 29, had obtained a permanent restraining order in Marin County against him and had custody of the couple’s year-old daughter – drove to her Novato home and allegedly beat her to death with a baseball bat.
“I was aware he was supposed to be going to jail, and I am not aware of why he didn’t,” said Claudia Stevens, Keller’s mother. “That is why Danielle is dead today.”
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/07/18/MNKC18R50G.DTL#ixzz0LjJtrHQc
Sorry for the typo, it’s Brad Beachy, not Beachey.
http://bit.ly/eMAZn
Brad Beachy (sic)
Charles Claycomb (sic)
Steven Davis
All on the same political financial report for Wichita Kansas as contributors to Elizabeth Bishop
Interesting. :)
Wow. Not a single CON can rouse themselves to dispute the simple fact that ignorance of human sexuality is not as good as knowledge.
“Facts have a well-known liberal bias,” Stephen Colbert.
CapnAmerica
Posted July 19, 2009 at 1:18 pm | Permalink
Wow. Not a single CON can rouse themselves to dispute the simple fact that ignorance of human sexuality is not as good as knowledge.
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“ignorance of human sexuality is not as good as knowledge”.
I dunno about others, but when you actually say something that isn’t entirely stupid, it surprises me.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/health/medicine/article1019355.ece
Ask Emily Whitehead, a Canadian, what she thinks about her country’s health care system and she’ll tell you a little story.
Years ago, she and a friend had babies at the same time. Afterward, they compared notes.
The friend, who lives in Michigan, was in the hospital for two or three days. Her bill: more than $3,000.
Whitehead, a diabetic, was in the hospital for two months. So was her premature infant, who at one point had to be transported in a specially equipped ambulance with two nurses and two paramedics.
Total bill for the Whiteheads: $16.95, for TV and a long-distance call.
Today, Whitehead is battling cancer, but once again the bill is the least of her worries. The Ontario government is paying for all of her hospital stays and doctor visits.
“When you consider the cost between the U.S. and Canada, there is no comparison,” says her husband, Dennis. “People who go to the hospital here don’t face financial ruin.”
A Few Illegal Immigrant Headlines for The Last Week:
Associated Press — July 18, 2009
Investigators battle giant cocaine operation
Watertown, Wis. — In this Midwestern town 1,500 miles from Mexico, in a place that proudly proclaims itself the birthplace of kindergarten, Coco the cocaine kingpin flourished. — Coco came to the United States illegally, and used layers of family members and henchmen to build an operation that saturated southeastern Wisconsin…
The Examiner — July 18, 2009
Colorado to get access to federal data on “immigrants”
Colorado wants its local police officers to have access to federal immigration and criminal databases to more quickly identify illegal immigrants during jail bookings – a plan advocacy groups say could trigger racial profiling. — Colorado plans to join the Secure Communities program run by ICE…
McAllen (Texas) Monitor — July 18, 2009
Man forged thousands of government IDs
A man who allegedly told investigators he forged thousands of U.S. and Mexican identification cards and $10,000 in U.S. currency has been indicted by a federal grand jury. — Miguel Wario Reyna, 38, told agents with the U.S. Secret Service that he had been running his forgery operation out of his Alamo home…
White Plains (NY) Journal News — July 17, 2009
Putnam Sheriff: Another illegal alien charged with DWI, faces deportation
A Connecticut man in the country illegally from Mexico is being held at the Putnam County jail on a federal immigration detainer warrant after a Putnam deputy charged him this week with driving while intoxicated, police said today…
Aurora (Colo.) Sentinel — July 16, 2009
Accused street racers may be in country illegally
Two accused street racers who police say caused a fatal crash and argued with each other as the victim lay dying have been charged with vehicular homicide and, police say, the two men may be in the country illegally. — Benny Sitinjak, 34, and Jose Hernandez Castellanos, 28, were arrested late Tuesday night…
Dave Gibson — The Examiner — July 16, 2009
Mexican brothels coming to a neighborhood near you
Illegal alien and convicted felon Emma Tlacoxolal-Perez was sentenced this week in U.S. District Court to 33 months in prison for running brothels in Chesapeake, Newport News, James City County and Williamsburg. — The Mexican national was the head of a prostitution ring which employed women smuggled into this country from Mexico…
Associated Press — July 15, 2009
Three plead guilty in illegal immigration case
Five relatives from Mexico face prison and possible deportation for smuggling illegal immigrants in Texas. — The U.S. Attorney’s Office in Houston says three men on Wednesday pleaded guilty to conspiring to harbor and transport illegal [aliens] for financial gain…
Atlanta Journal Constitution — July 14, 2009
Gwinnett police nab more than a ton of pot
A drug bust by Gwinnett police in cooperation with the federal Drug Enforcement Administration has uncovered more than 2,000 pounds of Mexican-grown marijuana, Gwinnett police said Tuesday. — Authorities found the drugs in a tractor trailer in Doraville and arrested five suspects between July 2 and July 11…
Baltimore Sun — July 14, 2009
Another DUI illegal alien going to jail
A Howard County judge sentenced an illegal [alien] from Mexico to three years in prison Monday after the 21-year-old man pleaded guilty to two counts of negligent vehicular homicide while driving under the influence of alcohol. — Jose Rosendo Algomeda-Santiago will be deported once he serves his prison term…
The Virginian-Pilot — Norfolk — July 13, 2009
Illegal alien madam’ sentenced to 33 months, then to be deported (again)
The madam of a local prostitution ring was sentenced Monday to 33 months in federal prison and will be processed for deportation at the end of her term. — Emma Tlacoxolal-Perez of Mexico previously pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court to three charges related to running a prostitution network with brothels in Chesapeake…
WKTB-TV — LaCrosse, Wisc. — July 13, 2009
Illegal alien arrested in child sex assault case
An illegal [alien] living in La Farge faces sexual assault charges. — 18-year-old Carlos Fernando Tierrafria-Martinez faces second-degree sexual assault charges stemming from an incident with a 13-year-old girl at his home sometime in late May, or early June… [More "family values"]
Jim Kouri, CPP — The Examiner — July 12, 2009
Another illegal alien fugitive murderer nailed at border
US federal agents nabbed a 21-year old illegal alien wanted in Texas for murder attempting to escape back into Mexico. — US CBP officers and Border Patrol agents working at the Hidalgo International Bridge apprehended a Mexican male wanted for capital murder and seven warrants for auto theft…
Hartford (Conn.) Courant — July 12, 2009
Woman dies; 4 illegals investigated
The death of a New York City woman who became ill at a rest stop on I-95 Friday night led police to detain four men alleged to be in the country illegally, state police said Saturday. — Police were called to the Madison rest area about 10:30 p.m. Friday by an employee of the McDonald’s restaurant…
Imperial Valley News — Holtville, Calif. — July 11, 2009
Border Patrol arrests previously deported Mexican sex offender
Andrade, Calif. — United States Border Patrol agents assigned to the Yuma, Arizona station arrested a man illegally present in the U.S. who was confirmed to be a convicted sex offender. — The 47-year-old citizen of Mexico has been previously convicted of sexual assault, kidnapping and sexual penetration…
http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/CrimeWatch.html
outlander–
Again, with the gratutious insults?
I guess now that your pet faith-based “educational” project of ramming religion down school-kids’ throats has been shown to actually increase the pregnancy rate (and no doubt, ultimately, the ABORTION rate), it’s all you got left.
Hey, Jim–
If you want to stop illegals, tell your rich Repub pals to stop hiring them.
Thank you.
What a Grand Idea! Why isn’t this program Nationwide already?
Colo to get access to federal data on immigrants
Colorado wants its local police officers to have access to federal immigration and criminal databases to more quickly identify illegal immigrants during jail bookings – a plan advocacy groups say could trigger racial profiling.
Secure Communities operates in 70 jurisdictions in Arizona, California, Florida, Massachusetts, New Mexico, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Texas and Virginia. The Harris County Sheriff’s Office in Houston was one of the first to test the program in February 2007, and ICE hopes to take it nationwide by 2013.
http://www.examiner.com/a-2124730~Colo_to_get_access_to_federal_data_on_immigrants.html
MH – I buy my own insurance right now. Have for years. Shop it almost every year. But nice rant, you ideological waste of space. Oh, yeah, “Ha!”.
How about putting your silly myth to the test MH, you know the one about how you’ve got special control over your Rep in DC, even though they’re a “rock ribbed wingnut” and bend them to any of your heart’s desires, because you get to vote every 2 yrs? Apparently the other 434 Reps in Congress have no say, nor the 100 Senators, nor the Agencies that operate outside of ANY congressperson’s direct authority, nor the Exec Branch, nor the SCOTUS, nope all that matters is you get to vote for your Rep….much like the rest of your “logic” about an inch deep and an inch wide.
Now, why don’t you, statist progressive freakshow, attempt to contort some logic on how you pay for it for once instead of just throwing more personal attacks or isoloated cases as if they’re the common experience. Or maybe offer a single actual solution, besides govt just needs to take it over, because govt luvs me? Make sure you start with the reality that the US govt is $70T – $100T in debt BEFORE healthcare or interest costs on all but about $11T of that debt. States are broke too, just in case you need some state luv, when the fed luv runs out. 2nd wave of foreclosures, credit card/student loan defaults are coming soon too, so make sure you incorporate those in your next excuse for a posting.
I’ve posted solution ideas, not just BS crap from partisan talking points catalogues. When I did, as I did upthread, whatya know, silence, followed by more platitudes and talking points.
Okay, 1:30.
Off to do something worthwhile.
Vaya con adios.
Regular
Posted July 19, 2009 at 1:16 pm | Permalink
Brad Beachy (sic)
Charles Claycomb (sic)
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Is that Charles Claycomb the minister?? I used to know a minister by that name that moved to Wichita. Just curious.
CapnAmerica
Posted July 19, 2009 at 1:27 pm | Permalink
outlander–
Again, with the gratutious insults?
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Now that is rich. You can’t hardly post without insulting.
The fact that you can only deal with a monolithic “CON” as your straw man opponent to which you attribute whatever opinions you want is telling and tells me that I am dealing with someone who is not very bright and/or who’s ideology blinds them. Sorry.
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DFB
Posted July 19, 2009 at 1:33 pm | Permalink
Regular
Posted July 19, 2009 at 1:16 pm | Permalink
Brad Beachy (sic)
Charles Claycomb (sic)
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Is that Charles Claycomb the minister?? I used to know a minister by that name that moved to Wichita. Just curious.
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Could be?
I wonder if CapnAmerica minds if I call him Brad?
I met outlander in person.
Funny, he wouldn’t out and tell me to my face that the poor should suffer and die. But if that is not his opinion here, I must be missing something.
CapnAmerica:- Long ago I accepted that American_Way and JimJohnson have no interest in discovery or discussion for they and their ilk have managed to turn this blog into a dirge. Ignore them, they copy salacious and misleading comments from those whose purpose to deny furtherment of any progressive matter without having real knowledge of the topic at at hand. Understanding and accepting overwhelming evidence is foreign to those who must hang onto satus quo purpose driven droppings.
I’ve noticed this (gotta say a word the cons don’t like) collective whine from many of our con bloggers lately.
“The Republican party is not a monolith! We’re NOT all cruel, selfish, self serving, mean, nasty poor people hating bigots!”
But there is yet to come any evidence or posts that would demonstrate this.
sursum
Posted July 19, 2009 at 1:39 pm | Permalink
CapnAmerica:- Long ago I accepted that American_Way and JimJohnson have no interest in discovery or discussion for they and their ilk have managed to turn this blog into a dirge. Ignore them, they copy salacious and misleading comments from those whose purpose to deny furtherment of any progressive matter without having real knowledge of the topic at at hand. Understanding and accepting overwhelming evidence is foreign to those who must hang onto satus quo purpose driven droppings.
Thanks sursum, but this blog was
…a DIRGE long before arrived.
Regular
Posted July 19, 2009 at 1:16 pm | Permalink
Brad Beachy (sic)
Charles Claycomb (sic)
Steven Davis
All on the same political financial report for Wichita Kansas as contributors to Elizabeth Bishop
Interesting. :)
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Would that be THE Charles Claycomb? You know, the one who signed The Clergy Letter that Chas talks about all the time.
Would that be THE Charles Claycomb? You know, the one who signed The Clergy Letter that Chas talks about all the time.
I second street that motion on behalf of the Capn. Or perhaps make an Island of Rock for the former.
Wonder how the Peace and Social Justice Center is getting along here in Wichita and Topeka?
Heh, heh….
Or, as Farmie would say..
Teeee Heeee Heee Heeee Heeeeeeeeeeeeeee
I should improve my English composition skills. Perhaps I should head on up to WSU. Do you think the Capn would approve?
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Regular
Posted July 19, 2009 at 12:57 pm | Permalink
Brad Beachey, a well-known socialist in Wichita.
(smirks)
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Wichita_Liberal
Posted July 19, 2009 at 1:14 pm | Permalink
Sorry for the typo, it’s Brad Beachy, not Beachey.
http://bit.ly/eMAZn
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Well, isn’t this interesting? Do we have an instance of nic switching here?
“CapnAmerica:- Long ago I accepted that American_Way and JimJohnson have no interest in discovery or discussion for they and their ilk have managed to turn this blog into a dirge. Ignore them, they copy salacious and misleading comments from those whose purpose to deny furtherment of any progressive matter without having real knowledge of the topic at at hand. Understanding and accepting overwhelming evidence is foreign to those who must hang onto satus quo purpose driven droppings”
My feelings exactly. I usually scroll over them, although I do make a reply to one or another of their shorter screeds at times.
I have no idea who Wichita_Liberal is, but he appears to be affable.
CapnAmerica
Posted July 14, 2009 at 4:02 pm | Permalink
MHawk asks, You have a car, “Regular?”
I always imagined you in a second-hand HoveRound.
Good point, MH.
A few years back, Regular’s real identity was outed. That same day, he claimed that some nasty lib sliced the tires of his car.
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(chortles)
Anyone know where I can get a replacement for a Kalashnikov banana clip?
Interesting, for all CapnAmericans complaining about US healthcare quality and attempts to compare our quality of care to other nations:
THERE IS NOTHING IN THE LEGISLATION BEFORE CONGRESS TO CHANGE THE QUALITY OF MEDICAL CARE.
Nice sound bites, regurgitated regularly by the libs. Wash, spin dry, and hung out to dry.
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Regular
Posted July 19, 2009 at 2:27 pm | Permalink
I have no idea who Wichita_Liberal is, but he appears to be affable.
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Why would Wichita_Liberal apologize for your typo?
“. Ignore them, they copy salacious and misleading comments from those whose purpose to deny furtherment of any progressive matter without having real knowledge of the topic at at hand.”
LMAO! Capn you post misleading and untruth all the time. For instance – your claim “The British system has no reduced waiting times to US and Europe. Oh, and they do it”
I posted current quotes and information from very recent articles from numerous sources in the British press – which counter your post with factual information.
It is not American Way posting misleading and salacious comments.
It is you. Your efforts to paint me as the cause for fall of the weblog are only to stifle any opinion – or anyone posting factual information which runs counter to your personal view point.
Pretty pathetic, but understandable for a Smurf.
Photograph of the day!
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6328/cheneyamerica.jpg
affable – Easy and pleasant to speak to; approachable.
Too bad Hillary you got turned down in India on Climate Change. Maybe you can stay over there the next 3 years and work on it. We don’t need greenhouse gas crap laws.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31983850/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/
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XXX
Posted July 19, 2009 at 3:47 pm | Permalink
Why would Wichita_Liberal apologize for your typo?
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XXX
Posted July 19, 2009 at 6:18 pm | Permalink
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XXX
Posted July 19, 2009 at 3:47 pm | Permalink
Why would Wichita_Liberal apologize for your typo?
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Ate any good books lately?
It was his typo ‘flour sack’. Look who posted the name first.
American_Way
Posted July 19, 2009 at 8:54 am | Permalink
Regular, thanks for reminding us of an important celebration reflecting on some of our fellow American citizens and their heritage.
It is most appropriate in light of King Obama Smurfs recent trip to where it all began.
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Regular is only a month late!! Guess you are too, AmWay… LOL
Regular is only a month late!! Guess you are too, AmWay… LOL
Indeed Chas,
But on this date, in 1799 and 2009, a Rosetta Stone was found that help decipher the code of forgotten symbols and language.
It led to the abolition of hiding behind hidden nics. Thusly, a new Juneteenth was born as well.
(chortles)
“Would you prefer a system where everyone is paid at the SAME level? Worked really well for the Soviet collectives, didn’t it?” [Raptor]
There you go again, with your totally FALSE kind of McCarthyistic retort… SOCIALISM is NOT Communism… Nor did the old Soviet Union pay all workers the SAME wages… Farmers got one kind of wage… Machinists got a different kind of wage… Administrators got paid a different wage… etc., etc.
READ Raptor… prove me wrong… IF you can… Anybody who doesnt know the difference between Socialism and Communism, shouldnt be commenting on either…. LOL
BTW, Raptor… your anti-Communist rhetoric is one of the major reasons why Sen. Joe McCarthy is remembered as the Azzho he was… LOL I guess you fit pretty good in his mold…
Regular = LYING TROLL… oh well, nothing new there folks…
DNFTLT
From yesterday’s Radio Address >>>>
“Any plan I sign must include an insurance exchange: a one-stop shopping marketplace where you can compare the benefits, cost and track records of a variety of plans – including a public option to increase competition and keep insurance companies honest – and choose what’s best for your family. And that’s why we’ll put an end to the worst practices of the insurance industry: no more yearly caps or lifetime caps; no more denying people care because of pre-existing conditions; and no more dropping people from a plan when they get too sick. No longer will you be without health insurance, even if you lose your job or change jobs.”
http://www.whitehouse.gov
Why Juneteenth on July 19th – an aperture into discovery.
There can be only six sigma, not seven. Eliza Dolittle received 7 of 6. It’s multiplicative sum is 42. 42 generations of the Gospel in Matthew. Prophesy states 42 months that the Beast holds dominion over the earth. King Saul reigned over Israel for 42 years.
The Egyptian the 42 principles of Ma’at – personification of physical and moral law, order and truth.
The unpronounceable Tetragrammaton of Judaism, ascribes the 42 lettered name to God.
And of course, a Google search for the answer to life the universe and everything will reveal the number 42.
Matthew 7:6
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
Here’s how repubs keep their own backyard clean, they invoke God as a co-conspirator!
“COLUMBIA, S.C. — South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, still clinging to office after admitting to an extramarital affair, wrote in an opinion piece released Sunday that God will change him so he can emerge from the scandal a more humble and effective leader.”
And, another one in for the long haul!
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Nevada Sen. John Ensign, who admitted to an affair with a campaign aide and that his parents paid the woman nearly $100,000, is firm about staying put in the Senate. But it doesn’t seem like he’s getting a ringing endorsement from the Senate’s top Republican.”
Regular
Posted July 19, 2009 at 7:44 pm | Permalink
Why Juneteenth on July 19th – an aperture into discovery.
There can be only six sigma, not seven. Eliza Dolittle received 7 of 6. It’s multiplicative sum is 42. 42 generations of the Gospel in Matthew. Prophesy states 42 months that the Beast holds dominion over the earth. King Saul reigned over Israel for 42 years.
The Egyptian the 42 principles of Ma’at – personification of physical and moral law, order and truth.
The unpronounceable Tetragrammaton of Judaism, ascribes the 42 lettered name to God.
And of course, a Google search for the answer to life the universe and everything will reveal the number 42.
Matthew 7:6
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
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You are SO full of BS… did you forget to change your depends again??
We’ll never know how it might have turned out, but I always admired Bob Dole’s loyalty to the alternative to MediCare he advocated back when he was in the House of Representatives in 1965.
It was called “ElderCare,” and included mean’s-testing with a sliding scale of premium’s covering hospital’s, doctor’s, prescricption’s… the whole gammit. Long after everyone else had forgotten about that proposal, Dole insisted it would have been a better program than Medicare. It was a strong conservative program I think.
I always thought Dole got a bum deal as Jerry Ford’s Vice Presidential nominee. The Nixon people wanted another Agnew and Dole never shook the image of a pit bull. My party broke my heart when so many Republican’s refused to support Dole in 1996 because they thought him too liberal.
A couple of year’s before he died, former Governor Bob Bennett and I found ourselve’s at some Johnson County Republican Party function and he said George W. Bush would be the likely nominee in the 2000 election. But he said something that’s stuck with me ever since. It was something like “Some of us got into politics to do something. He seems to be in politics to be something.”
Nancy Kassebaum was such a great United States Senator. I hope some of you remember her poise, her insight, her subtle humor, her common sense. She, more than just about anyone I can remember in politic’s embodied what I’ve come to think of as Kansas-ism.
Kassebaum’s legislative approach was driven by a Kansas housewife’s common sense. What’s the problem? Is it important? How do we deal with it?
Even in the 1980’s, Sen. Kassebaum knew healthcare was a problem that would only get worst. And it has.
It’s to the point where MediCare, not Dole’s ElderCare, has become the model for a resergent Democrat party to finally get around to healtcare “reform.”
The more I go to fewer and fewer party function’s the more I find myself surrounded by people who would make Senator Dole and Governor Bennett and Senator Kassebaum and I vomit.
“Any plan I sign must include…”
Is this another promise to be broken?
And you believe that, eh Chas? This so called public option is nothing, absolutely nothing, more than the initial step in a plan to eliminate private insurance altogether. Think about it. Obama can’t change it all at once. He has to retain private insurance until the government capability is expanded and developed enough to take on everything. I would respect The Obama a lot more if he would come out and be truthful.
Well, Outie, I guess if he signs anything other than what he says he will sign, THEN and ONLY THEN will you have something to bi*ch about, eh???
Until then, all you got is bit*hing…. Please carry on… Go find some more garbage you can post about, eh/?
“This so called public option is nothing, absolutely nothing, more than the initial step in a plan to eliminate private insurance altogether.” [Outie]
This is indicative of a mental affliction sometimes known as “Paranoia”… There are a number of useful meds that can assist you with this condition… BUT, you have to WANT the help….
http://bit.ly/eMAZn [Wichita Lib]
Well, well… What we have here is a phony poster’s phony Link…. Should we be surprised??? I think not….