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Today’s Bible study, the story of Abraham and Ivan.
http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/186204/That-Mitchell-and-Webb-Look-Human-Sacrifice.html
Front page article in this morning’s Wichita Eagle about how the Kansas Highway Department (KDOT) wants to place gauges in your car to charge you more taxes for their gargantuan road improvement projects.
I want to remind you KDOT is currently spending $100 million dollars to build Kansas’ portion of remodeling Highway 54 to turnpike from Wichita to the southwestern corner of Kansas. From there other states will finance this roadway on to El Paso and Cuidad Juarez, Mexico.
What is the real purpose of building this unapproved, unheralded superhighway from Mexico to Wichita? What’s that saying, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it just might be duck. You decide.
But lets not give any new taxes to KDOT.
Should have said “to turnpike standards” above.
On this date, Jul 18th, record setting temperatures for Wichita Kansas
High: 112 °F (1936)
Low: 59 °F (1911)
‘OMFG!!!! Climate Models Might Be Wrong!‘
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/7/15/753872/-OMFG!!!!-Climate-Models-Might-Be-Wrong!
‘Countering the contrarians on global warming‘
http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2009/07/17/countering-the-contrarians-on-global-warming/
Note the headline at the Nature .com link.
‘Carbon dioxide forcing alone insufficient to explain Palaeocene–Eocene Thermal Maximum warming‘
Looks like President Obama may have a notch on his foreign policy pistol, folks, the result of plain old wisdom.
The following would not have been possible had John McCain won the election, or had President Obama listened to idiots like Dick Cheney. Rafsanjani could never have made these statements because it would have been far to easy for Iran’s hardliners to accuse him of pro-American treason.
Had President Obama followed the advice of media darlings like Jonah Goldberg, John Hinderaker, and/or William Kristol, this Iranian election would have slipped into the history books quietly if bloodily.
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Tehran Losing Iranians’ Trust, Ex-Leader Says
By ROBERT F. WORTH
Published: July 17, 2009
BEIRUT, Lebanon — As thousands of protesters chanted Friday in the streets outside, a former Iranian president, Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, assailed the government’s handling of the post-election unrest, saying it had lost the trust of many Iranians, and called for the release of hundreds of those arrested in recent weeks. …
,,,Mr. Rafsanjani, a bitter rival of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who supported Mr. Moussavi’s campaign, did not directly question Mr. Ahmadinejad’s landslide victory, which has been sanctioned by Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
But he made clear that he believed that Ayatollah Khamenei, who has blamed foreign powers for the unrest and has called for an end to protests, should take a more conciliatory stance.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/world/middleeast/18iran.html?_r=1&ref=world
Yeah Pedant, I’m sure Iran takes advice from U.S. correspondents – what’s in the pipe your smoking?
Iran has been on the path of revolution for years, evidently you closed your ears for the past 20 years or so.
And once again, William Kristol shows us his prognosticatin’ abilities are nil. This guy can’t predict the future for sh/t. Dan Quayle, Iraq, Sarah Palin, now President Obama’s foreign policy.
Somebody remind me why in the heck this guy enjoys serious readers?!
Wienermobile Crashes Into Wisconsin Home
MOUNT PLEASANT, Wis. — One southern Wisconsin homeowner is probably not in love with the Oscar Mayer wiener.
The famed hot dog’s Wienermobile crashed Friday into the deck and garage of a home in Mount Pleasant, about 35 miles south of Milwaukee.
Fox News
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Now there’s some news!
Henry Allingham
Oldest WW1 veteran dies aged 113
BBC News
Henry Allingham, the world’s oldest man and one of the last surviving WWI servicemen, dies at the age of 113.
Yesterday Daniel told us “The administration doesn’t have taxing authority, the United States Congress does. That authority is found in Article I Section 8 of the Constitution.”
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In the best of all worlds this would mean something. This White House hasn’t been hampered yet by the normal controls. The prez has been calling in members of congress all week telling them what he wants in the plan. They moved the census from the Commerce Dept. to the White House. Always a non-partisan branch it will now be managed by the Executive branch.
Now with health care being rushed through congress we see a small blurb about the next power grab by this White House.
Pelosi on Obamacare: ‘We Certainly Have the Support of the American People’
WASHINGTON (AP) – The White House is asking Congress to give the executive branch more power to limit Medicare’s rising costs.
A White House letter to top lawmakers on Friday said the move would be “a critical step forward” in controlling health care costs and providing better care.
The proposal would allow an independent advisory board to recommend changes in Medicare reimbursement rates for doctors, hospitals and other providers. If the president approved the recommendations, Congress could still vote to reject them altogether. But Congress could not approve some recommendations and reject others.
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I hope this will strike a chord with those who are unsure what the agenda of this prez is. He needs to be stopped now before we become a socialist state like a Cuba or Venezuela.
Almost 50 czars and adding. This unelected group of prez appointed people are given powers by the prez and not by any structure of our governmment. This is usurping the power of congress – a body elected by the voters. A necessary step in a republic with representation by the people.
okobserver
Posted July 18, 2009 at 9:23 am | Permalink
…This unelected group of prez appointed people are given powers by the prez and not by any structure of our governmment. This is usurping the power of congress – a body elected by the voters. A necessary step in a republic with representation by the people.
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If mean ‘ol President Obama is truly as usurping as you suggest, then I’m sure someone with standing will sue the office of the Executive. I believe certain such lawsuits can be tried directly before the Supreme Court, post haste and avoiding all lower courts.
We’ll wait with baited breath for THAT to happen.
(Here’s a clue for some of yall: when you find your hand afire whilst atop a hot stove, remove your hand – pronto! Similarly, if the alternative-reality websites like townhall, drudge, cbn, etc., are drivin’ you nuts, then come back to reality and Just. Don’t. Go. To. Them.) (Just saying.)
Anybody been to any alternative-reality websites like townhall, drudge, cbn, etc.?
I bet they’re quiet as church mice today.
For example, I noted that rather than write about his favorite topic (President Obama’s naivite in dealing with Iran), Kra uthammer chose to write about the Apollo moon landings of forty years ago.
lol
Pedant, giving O’BAMA credit for Iran when O’BAMA did zip is appalling.
How about stopping with the hero worship and deal with reality.
Your mongrel spin on a consortium of commentators and Iranian politics is a putrid soup of nonsense. That’s why no one is reporting on it.
Regular
Posted July 18, 2009 at 9:42 am | Permalink
That’s why no one is reporting on it.
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Yet.
Pedant
Posted July 18, 2009 at 9:51 am | Permalink
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Also, I’m pretty sure that, on the whole, Americans are fair minded enough to realize when doing nothing is the best course of action (in the words of Kenny Rogers, “knowing when to hold ‘em and when to fold ‘em”).
This speech is a huge deal in the Middle East. Rafsanjani’s is a speech that would not have been made if John McCain were president.
Not possible. Rafsanjani would not have been credible as a critic if the McCain is president.
And had President Obama listened to the nutcases on the right — Cheney, Kristol, Kra uthammer — the outcome would have been the same as if McCain had been elected.
No speech by Rafsanjani, a speech that threatens to crack Iranian society wide open. A speech that goes straight to the throat of the hardliners currently in power there.
Hats off, Mr. President.
In fact, less than six months in and President Obama continues to show signs of breathtaking American greatness.
Decisiveness, wisdom, very cool under fire.
Man’s got style. Huevos, too. And substance.
It’s a great time to be an American patriot.
The ‘man’ is going to put the U.S. so far into debt we may never recover as a nation.
Even the Congressional Budget Office is telling Congress that the Health Care plan is too much too quick and too expensive. It also is saying the same thing about the Cap and trade legislation.
What the h3ll is the rush? Close and careful examination is required when one is talking about trillions of dollars – not political expediency.
Regular
Posted July 18, 2009 at 9:59 am | Permalink
The ‘man’ is going to put the U.S. so far into debt we may never recover as a nation.
Even the Congressional Budget Office is telling Congress that the Health Care plan is too much too quick and too expensive. It also is saying the same thing about the Cap and trade legislation.
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No, the CBO has not come to those conclusions. It has concluded that the president’s health care plan will not lower aggregate overall health care costs in the future. The president has argued that it will lower overall future health care costs in the aggregate.
“too much too quick and too expensive” is what YOU say, not the CBO.
Regular
Posted July 18, 2009 at 9:59 am | Permalink
What the h3ll is the rush? Close and careful examination is required when one is talking about trillions of dollars – not political expediency.
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I would just note this. So far, the more President Obama has emphasized expediency, the closer the GOP has come to his plan.
Like I said, President Obama is showing us all his wisdom, in both domestic and foreign policy. He’s showing signs of being a fine, fine bargainer at the very least.
I think yall might find that expediency would have less emphasis if the GOP would choose to adopt rational positions to begin with.
$0.02
Health care costs have a minimal lateral effect on jobs and market strength.
If we burden the nation with excessive tax from O’BAMA’s 1.5 trillion dollar health care plan and mult-trillion dollar cap and trade costs that will burden all consumers to the point of stagflation.
Regular
Posted July 18, 2009 at 10:21 am | Permalink
Health care costs have a minimal lateral effect on jobs and market strength.
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Prove it.
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Pedant
Posted July 18, 2009 at 10:32 am | Permalink
Regular
Posted July 18, 2009 at 10:21 am | Permalink
Health care costs have a minimal lateral effect on jobs and market strength.
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Prove it.
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Prove that it does?
I’ve never heard an economist claiming health care boosts job productivity, ends joblessness or turns around an economy.
Find me a reference that shows this miracle of economics.
You can’t – it doesn’t exist.
Regular
Posted July 18, 2009 at 10:35 am | Permalink
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Pedant
Posted July 18, 2009 at 10:32 am | Permalink
Regular
Posted July 18, 2009 at 10:21 am | Permalink
Health care costs have a minimal lateral effect on jobs and market strength.
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Prove it.
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Prove that it does?
I’ve never heard an economist claiming health care boosts job productivity, ends joblessness or turns around an economy.
Find me a reference that shows this miracle of economics.
You can’t – it doesn’t exist.
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Translation: my mouth wrote a check that my hiney can’t back up.
lol
Hey Regular!
Did you find those (non-existent) Congressional and Justice Dept links yet, to support your false claim about the New Orleans levees?
“Like I said, President Obama is showing us all his wisdom, in both domestic and foreign policy. He’s showing signs of being a fine, fine bargainer at the very least.”
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“A fine, fine bargainer” would imply he had to actually negotiate anything, ie, he didn’t control the entire congress. Till that changes, he’s just a partisan.
Foreign policy?? Seriously, what exactly has he accomplished with his “wisdom” in foreign policy? Mexico’s still on the verge of imploding. N Korea testing nukes. Iran..well, they’re still Iran. Russia punked him with is one-sided nuke reduction ideas. Russia/China/India punked him on AGW. G-8 & G-20 punked him on his plans to get them to spend like drunken sailors too. How much did he spend to get Uighers sent to Bermuda or Palao wherever they ended up? Did he remember to let Britain in on the Bermuda part?? Only semi-victory he can claim is in Iraq (getting out of cities), and that’s just because the plate was already clean, he just had to bus the table. But by golly, he came out strong on those silly people in Honduras who didn’t like their Const being trampled.
Translation: my mouth wrote a check that my hiney can’t back up.
No Pedant, you use the same tired old leftist tactic of trying to ask someone to prove something that doesn’t exist.
You want engaging, mature discussion and I’m trying to give it to you.
If you want to be your usual azzwipe self so be it.
Speaking of azzwipes -there’s cosmos – right on cue with a remark that is totally meaningless.
Pedant you might want to ck the source of that story again. It was by the Associated Press. Have they become a right wing tool now?
Hey Regular!
If you did find those (non-existent) Congressional and Justice Dept links that support your false claim about the New Orleans levees, why haven’t you posted them?
Regular
Posted July 18, 2009 at 10:45 am | Permalink
You want engaging, mature discussion and I’m trying to give it to you.
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You pulled a conclusion out of thin air — “Health care costs have a minimal lateral effect on jobs and market strength.” — and I called you on it. Prove it, I said.
You have no idea how to either disprove or prove what you wrote. Neither do you have the personal integrity to admit it.
As usual.
As I’ve said many times here, a mature and engaging discussion is impossible with you.
Just admit that you have an opinion about the effects of healthcare reform on the economy as a whole, but no facts. Do not assert that economic research about healthcare reform does not exist.
That would be a good start to an “engaging” and “mature” discussion.
How about proving to me Pedant, that government health care will improve the current economic situation.
Until you can, my point remains valid.
Regular
Posted July 18, 2009 at 10:55 am | Permalink
How about proving to me Pedant, that government health care will improve the current economic situation.
Until you can, my point remains valid.
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What are you, twelve?!
lol
Thanks for bolstering my point (and in your very next post, no less). “Mature discussion” is to Regular as oil is to water.
Reasonable people should take pause and consider the most damning report on the financial outlook for our nation.
Other fools will rush in with new huge spending projects.
“Under questioning by members of the Senate Budget Committee, Douglas Elmendorf, director of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, said
bills crafted by House leaders and the Senate health committee do not propose “the sort of fundamental changes” necessary to rein in the
skyrocketing cost of government health programs, particularly Medicare.
On the contrary, Elmendorf said, the measures would pile on an expensive new program to cover the uninsured.
Though President Obama and Democratic leaders have repeatedly pledged to alter the soaring trajectory — or cost curve — of federal health
spending, the proposals so far would not meet that goal, Elmendorf said, noting, “The curve is being raised.” His remarks suggested that rather than averting a looming fiscal crisis, the measures could make the nation’s bleak budget outlook even worse.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/16/AR200907
1602242.html?hpid=topnews
Regular posted July 18, 2009 at 10:45 am
Speaking of azzwipes -there’s cosmos – right on cue with a remark that is totally meaningless.
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Actually, my comment was unnecessary — most people who have read the WE blog already know that Regular has zero credibility. And that Regular, instead of trying to support his claims, responds with name-calling.
“Under current law, the federal budget is on an unsustainable path..
-meaning that federal debt will continue to
grow much faster than the economy over the long run. Although great uncertainty surrounds long-term fiscal projections, rising costs for health care and the aging of the U.S. population will cause federal spending to increase rapidly under any plausible scenario for current law.”
CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf
Testimony before the Committee on the Budget, United States Senate
16 July, 2009
BTW, yesterday evening, I posted links to new taxes Obama has enacted; smoking and is considering drinking alcohol and the fuel gasoline tax.
Now, the liar in the white house is considering a brand new tax:
A tax on miles driven by each American.
“How about proving to me Pedant, that government health care will improve the current economic situation.”
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Pedant – maybe you’d like to take a stab at the question I’ve posed elsewhere, since you’re convinced this healthcare bill fixes the economy.
Medicare is at least $35T in the hole already. There’s a wave of boomers about to become eligible for this program that’s already insanely bankrupt. Yet, the brilliant logic being used by Dems to “pay” for this healthcare bill, is that they figured out how to “save” $500B over 10 yrs in Medicare costs. So, how does it make sense to “pay” for a new program with “savings” you’re squeezing out of one that’s already $35T in the hole (not including the Part D deficit already built up)?
Secondly, how does it effect the economy when those $35T in overdrafts come due? More taxes, cuts elsewhere, borrowing, printing, which “solution” is it that improves the economy?
DFB, your 11:45 post is spot on.
The Congressional Budget Office agrees with you.
Similiar discussion and supporting documentation (from the US Gubermint) here:
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/pro-con-on-socialized-medicine/#comment-621806
“A tax on miles driven by each American.”
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Amway – they have to consider this to hide the fact that they collect major revenue from fossil fuel use, so they don’t answer the simple question of how the tax gap is filled between collecting taxes from fossil fuels & PAYING subsidies/tax breaks/etc to ethanol/wind/solar/etc. Let alone the reduction in demand for unleaded & the state excise taxes that are based on a $ of price vs fixed fee like KS is.
So, they fire up the spinmasters to come up with a “per mile” excise tax on fuel. It’s no different than the ethanol spin they had to drum up to cover up for the fact that the feds mandated MTBE (which ethanol was mandated to replace) in unleaded only later to find out MTBE polluted the air/water. Same gameplan, don’t address the obvious flaw, spackle it up with spin.
“Secondly, how does it effect the economy when those $35T in overdrafts come due?”
The truth on healthcare is the focus of the government is on the government economy. Not the nations (or each of us):
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/pro-con-on-socialized-medicine/#comment-621800
“So, they fire up the spinmasters to come up with a “per mile” excise tax on fuel. ”
I’m reminded of “The Cat in the Hat” book. The more the government interferes, the more chaos and mess results.
Amway – what I couldn’t believe was hearing Obama make that argument in the presser where he got his first “tough” questions. He even showed off his whiny voice, when displaying similar stupidity in suggesting that it was silly for private insurers to worry about govt taking them out (the wrote it into the freaking bill that individuals couldn’t sign up for private insurance after effective date of legislation!). The reporters asked once, let him give his lame answer in his whiny voice and let up, nodding in the glow of his absurdity.
Again, simple follow up questions:
1. Mr President, is the govt subject to things like the Sherman Anti-Trust Act, or the Sarbanes-Oxley legislation like private companies are?
2. With Medicare insanely bankrupt, could a private insurer continue to operate under that oppressive debt and double down on new business similar to that which created that debt?
3. Has the fed govt also underfunded its pension plan for all fed employees/military to the tune of $5.3T (USA Today)? Is that not illegal for private companies to do under fiduciary liability laws?
4. When the private insurer runs out of money, does it have a printing press to make more like the govt?
5. Does the govt write the rules/regulations, or does private business?
6. I could go on (would govt healthcare premiums be taxable the way you’re suggesting private employer provided healthcare is, etc, etc), but suffice to say, Mr. President, are these not significant competitive advantages for the govt relative to private business?
“I’m reminded of “The Cat in the Hat” book. The more the government interferes, the more chaos and mess results.”
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It’s the ultimate “make work” gig. “Fix” a problem by creating 10 more, then create 10 more “fixes”, all the while proclaiming to voters how much good you’re doing with their dollars, so they should give you some more.
“The current recession has little effect on long-term projections of noninterest spending and revenues. But CBO estimates that in fiscal years 2009 and 2010, the federal government will record its largest budget deficits as a share of GDP since shortly after World War II.
As a result of those deficits, federal debt held by the public will soar from 41 percent of GDP at the end of fiscal year 2008 to 60 percent at the end of fiscal year 2010.”
- CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf
Testimony before the Committee on the Budget, United States Senate
16 July, 2009
“House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Thursday that Democrats could use a proposed new tax on the wealthy to pay down the deficit, if there’s money left over after funding healthcare reform.”
thehill.com
Are you listening libs? Can’t who hear the car salesman in Pelosio’s comment?
Pay down the national debt – my a $$. The dims will spend every single penny they steal from Americans.
And if the purpose for the new rich tax was healthcare – then only take what you need for that purpose. Don’t B.S. your way to get the Bluenose vote and snowjob the American people.
This comment just further reflects how rushed, premature, and unresolved this legislation is.
“Press Briefing 2/6/09
the White House moved the control of the Census Bureau into the White House for the purposes of the 2010 census, and if so why? MR. GIBBS: No, the — I think the historical precedent of this is there’s a director of the census that works for the Secretary of Commerce, the President, and also works closely with the White House, to ensure a timely and accurate count. And that’s what we have in this instance.”
http://www.whitehouse.gov/search/?keywords=census%20bureau
White House Nabs Political Control over Census
Sunday, February 8, 2009 10:22 AM
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The Obama administration is ending the Census Bureau’s traditional autonomy – a move that has Republicans outraged over the White House’s politicization of counting Americans.
Last week, an administration official revealed that the yet-to-be-named director of the Census Bureau will report to the White House rather than Commerce Secretary nominee Judd Gregg, a Republican.
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Seems to be a conflict. And we know we always get the complete truth from the White House.
“Earlier this year, hyperpartisan White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel moved oversight of the 2010 Census from the Commerce Department to the White House. In 2006, then Rep. Emanuel revealed to USA Today the motivation behind the shift, “If you think redistricting is always partisan and political which it is… it’s going to be on steroids this time.” As outrageous as that maneuver was at the time, the president has now reinforced politicization of the process with his nomination to run the Census Bureau the man whose name is synonymous with exploitation of the census to reach political outcomes.”
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=31351
http://www.whitehouse.gov/search/?keywords=census%20bureau
Saturday, July 18, 2009
LIFE WITH BIG BROTHER
WorldNetDaily Exclusive
Census GPS-tagging your home’s front door
Coordinates being taken for every residence in nation
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Posted: May 05, 2009
8:32 pm Eastern
By Bob Unruh
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WorldNetDaily
GPS satellite
According to an online Yahoo program, the Global Position System coordinates for the White House, probably one of the best-known publicly owned buildings in the world, are 38.898590 Latitude and -77.035971 Longitude. And since you know that, it’s no big deal for the White House to know the coordinates for your front door, is it?
Some people think it is, and are upset over an army of some 140,000 workers hired in part with a $700 million taxpayer-funded contract to collect GPS readings for every front door in the nation.
The data collection, presented as preparation for the 2010 Census, is pinpointing with computer accuracy the locations and has raised considerable concern from privacy advocates who have questioned why the information is needed. The privacy advocates also are more than a little worried over what could be done with that information.
Enhancing the concerns is the Obama administration’s recent decision to put White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel in an oversight role over the census, which will be used to determine a reapportionment of congressional seats and could be used to solidify a single political party’s control over the nation, its budget, military and future.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=97208
“Mr. Groves is a leading advocate for partisan data manipulation. In fact, his efforts to tamper with census results in 1990 are well-documented and were rightly rejected.” {Okie’s link]
And in 1990, the POTUS was Geo. H. W. Bush
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“Republicans are very concerned that the White House efforts to politicize the census will result in a corrupted count aimed to benefit Democrats. With Groves’ appointment, their apprehension should grow.”
“Groves served at the Census Bureau from 1990 to 1992 as an associate director of statistical design, where he strongly advocated adjusting population numbers in urban areas to augment the number of people in these typically Democrat strongholds. The United States Supreme Court ruled this process unconstitutional in 1999.”
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=31351
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Hmmmm — If Groves’ ideas were found to be UNconstitutional in 1999…. Just what is it that the Republicans are afraid of now??
Groves surely couldnt use his manipulative ideas, since he was ruled Unconstitutional by SCOTUS 10 years ago….
“CBO’s long-term budget projections raise fundamental questions about economic sustainability. If outlays grew as projected and revenues did not rise at a corresponding rate, annual deficits would climb and federal debt would grow significantly. Large budget deficits would reduce national saving, leading to more borrowing from abroad and less domestic investment, which in turn would depress income growth in the United States. Over time, the accumulation of debt would seriously harm the economy.”
CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf
Testimony before the Committee on the Budget, United States Senate
16 July, 2009
“okobserver
Posted July 18, 2009 at 2:24 pm | Permalink
…The data collection, presented as preparation for the 2010 Census, is pinpointing with computer accuracy the locations and has raised considerable concern from privacy advocates who have questioned why the information is needed.”
Is that much different than Google Maps? Seriously, who cares if the government has the GPS coordinates of their house? The government has the address of your house don’t they (be glad they do so police and fire/rescue can find you easily)?
Now if the government wants to put a GPS locator in me or my car, that is a different story. But your house location is not a secret is it? Its location (or at least the turn to your driveway) can be seen from public streets and is public knowledge.
“Today, the controlling law for the U.S. Census is Title 13 of the U.S. Code. There is a lot of census data collected in the United States today, such as economic figures, sales and production figures, and agricultural statistics. Still, the head count is the only part of the census that is called for by the Constitution. The code for the enumeration can be found in 13 USC 141. In this code, the census is directed to be taken in 1980 and every ten years thereafter, and that the count is to be taken on April 1. The returns must be completed within nine months for use in apportionment of representatives. The code also specifies a mid-decade census be taken in 1985 and every ten years thereafter. This count need not be a head count (sampling may be used) though the data cannot be used for apportionment.”
http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_cens.html
“Under the alternative fiscal scenario, by contrast, expiring tax provisions in the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 (EGTRRA) and the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 (JGTRRA) would be extended, and the AMT would be indexed to inflation. As a result, revenues would grow
only slightly faster than the economy, equaling 22 percent of GDP by 2080. Slowly growing revenues combined with sharply rising expenditures would create an explosive fiscal situation. Under the spending and revenue
policies incorporated in this scenario, federal debt would surpass 100 percent of GDP in 2023 and exceed 200 percent of GDP by the late 2030s.”
CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf
Testimony before the Committee on the Budget, United States Senate
16 July, 2009
(Remember, Obama plans to extend the Bush tax cuts, at least to part of the population. So this scenerio is still possible to a degree.)
“From 1790 to 1840, the census was taken by marshals of the judicial districts.[4] The Census Act of 1840 established a central office[5] which became known as the Census Office. Several acts followed revising and authorizing new censuses, typically around the 10 year intervals. In 1902 the temporary Census Office was moved under the Department of Interior, and in 1903 it was renamed the Census Bureau under the new Department of Commerce and the Interior. The department was intended to consolidate overlapping statistical agencies, but Census Bureau officials were hindered by their subordinate role in the department.[6] An act around 1920 changed the date and authorized manufacturing censuses every 2 years and agriculture censuses every 10 years.[7] In 1929, a bill was passed mandating that the House of Representatives be reapportioned based on the results of the 1930 census.[7] In 1954, various acts were codified into Title 13 of the US Code.[8]
By law, the Census Bureau must present the sitting president with its results by December 31st of each first year of a decade. States would then receive the results the spring of the following year.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureau_of_the_Census
The Outlook for Federal Spending:
For much of its history, the United States devoted only a small fraction of its resources to the activities of the federal government, apart from fighting wars. But the second half of the 20th century was a period of sustained higher federal spending during peacetime. Over the past 50 years, primary federal outlays (which exclude interest spending) have averaged 18 percent of GDP. In fiscal years 2009 and 2010, spending on stimulus legislation and on efforts to stabilize the financial markets will result in unusually high outlays (primary spending will account for 26 percent of GDP in fiscal year 2009)..
CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf
Testimony before the Committee on the Budget, United States Senate
16 July, 2009
This is probably one of the most important warning our nation has ever received from the Congressional Budget Office. Few will bother to read or listen to it. Obama and the democrats in Congress could care less what their spending is doing to our nations future.
The truth is being denied.
And Obama Biden says SPEND MORE!!!!
Here is the warning to our United States Senate provided on 16 July, 2009. The warning sirens are going off now.
http://www.senate.gov/fplayers/CommPlayer/commFlashPlayer.cfm?fn=budget071609&st=960
What is this, post quotes from the internet day?
“The Obamites, thirsty to serve their new messianic figure, have lost enough of their objectivity to be willingly recruited into such an insidious program like gaining these coordinates for the U.S. government. … I ask again, what would be the purpose of shooting the GPS coordinates of American doorways?” he wrote.”
LOL!!! From the World Nut Daily article quoted referenced above.
Obviously, it is so we can aim the Satellite Brain Scanners. BUY TIN FOIL NOW!!!!
but…but…Amway…it is “only” mortgaging the children’s future if a Republican does it. if bho does it..he gets a pass.
funny how that works, isn’t it?
pure hypocrisy at its best.
DFB
Posted July 18, 2009 at 11:45 am | Permalink
Secondly, how does it effect the economy when those $35T in overdrafts come due? More taxes, cuts elsewhere, borrowing, printing, which “solution” is it that improves the economy?
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I”ll try to respond, but not tonight. Heading out for a cruise on the Chesapeake Bay and the dang boat/ship/whatever leaves in 30 minutes.
Short answer: all of the above, but largely taxes (I would guess). Again, I will try to respond with a better answer soon.
Your first question just has “too” many quotation “marks” and “other” assorted….fanciful….and (1) largely odd punctuation pecadillos for me to understand it altogether. Just say what you mean, man. English is a fine language for communication, you just gotta trust it.
Laterz, yall. Enjoy yer Saturday night!
I don’t know what to make of this about Raj Goyle
http://tinyurl.com/mzpwhn
Pedant – I’ve been on one of those Chesapeake Bay cruises. VA/NC are beautiful states, my favorite area of the country. 2 hrs from the beach, 2 hrs from the mountains and some of the best golf anywhere.
1st question revisited for your sensitivities, in what silly fantasy universe do you pay for a credit card bill by opening another credit card and putting the payments on it and suggest that you’ve somehow paid your bills?
Is that better? I’m assuming you prefer a metaphor and avoid the actual facts of what your boys in DC are trying to get us to buy for logic in using Medicare savings to pay for universal care. I’ve got a mentally handicapped sister that uses logic like that, and it’s weird, because it never works. So, maybe if we just rush it through and pass it real fast that will make it seem logical, yeah, that’s the ticket.
But let’s review your quick “through taxes” answer. A little preemptive strike on my part. Debt’s fungible, doesn’t matter which pot you put it in, so let’s review our US debt:
Medicare – Min $35T/Max $65T in the hole
Soc Sec – $9T in the hole
Part D – $10T in the hole (since only ‘05)
Nat’l Debt- $11.5T in the hole
Fed Pensions $5.3T (fed employees/military pens)
10 yr Deficits $1T/yr (without healthcare/cap & trade, just based on Obama’s last budget)
This yrs Deficit $1.8T ($1T incl in nat’l debt)
That would be a low end total of about $70T, with a high end of $100T. Total taxes collected, from all sources, in good years, has been as high as about $2.5-$2.7T. So, exactly how high are you suggesting taxes should raise to cover these debts, as well as whatever the annual costs of a universal healthcare plan would be? Keep in mind, we pay interest on the Nat’l Debt only, so existing tax revenues will get chewed up as the govt runs out of free loans, oops, my fault, I mean trusts. Which means more borrowing or printing and more interest or inflation.
Just wanted to go ahead and get all the tidbits out on the table, so we didn’t do a silly dance focusing only on one portion of the debt debate. One last thing, the states are broke too, except for maybe Alaska & Texas, so they need to raise taxes too, right?
Wichita_Liberal
Posted July 18, 2009 at 6:21 pm | Permalink
I don’t know what to make of this about Raj Goyle
http://tinyurl.com/mzpwhn
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Easy Lib… It’s a bunch of garbage… Whoever wrote that doesnt understand that Goyle’s career includes lecturing at WSU, AND he is also an attorney… “Lecturer” does not now, nor ever has, implied a full time career…
BFD…err…DFB, you should really go listen to Obama’s Saturday address from today — you can get it at http://www.whitehouse.gov…. LISTEN to the words of the President, and then see if you really want to continue your silly attacks on the health care program…. ok??
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“How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in your life you will have been all of these.”
- George Washington Carver -
good night; good luck; god bless —
whtever you conceive god to be….
blessings to all!!
blessings on our great nation….
so mote it be!!
G’night All!!!
““only” mortgaging the children’s future if a Republican does it. if bho does it..he gets a pass.”
Well I guess you could honestly say, “But Obama is doing it so much better.”
1.5 trillion debt this year alone.
Worst president ever. Biggest liar.
” post quotes from the internet day?”
Do you get your quotes from a typewriter?
And don’t bother reading the warning the CBO gave to Congress – biggest warning in our nations history.
Obviously that would require you to go to the link provided and read.
“BFD…err…DFB, you should really go listen to Obama’s Saturday address from today — you can get it at http://www.whitehouse.gov…. LISTEN to the words of the President, and then see if you really want to continue your silly attacks on the health care program…. ok??”
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Sach..err..Chas, I’ve “listened” to his words daily, as he’s on air more than the ShamWow salesman, and just about as annoying in terms of the generalizations he makes, which are never challenged. I posted several examples above earlier today. I don’t need to hear whatever the latest talking point is.
“How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in your life you will have been all of these.”
Sach..err..Chas, maybe you should remember this the next time you’re calling Okobserver a “b*tch”. Still haven’t seen an apology from on that.
Chas Smurf is good at posting off-the-wall comments which have zero bearing on the discussion at hand.
“Still haven’t seen an apology from on that.” [DFB]
nor will you either
“Still haven’t seen an apology from on that.” [DFB]
nor will you either
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What an example as a “man” of God. Practice what you “preach”.