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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-614068</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only will CapnAmerica Rush Limbaugh tell you Libs what your thoughts are, he will judge who you agree with and group you accordingly! And, as a bonus he will judge by telling you what he thinks of the words he put in your mouth and the group he put you in. And do it it in fine insult form! What a value!

There, I fixed it for you, Outlander.

Remember when Rush said that &quot;Liberals want our American troops to die in Iraq&quot; or that &quot;Liberals love terrorists more than they love their fellow Americans&quot;?

Yeah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only will CapnAmerica Rush Limbaugh tell you Libs what your thoughts are, he will judge who you agree with and group you accordingly! And, as a bonus he will judge by telling you what he thinks of the words he put in your mouth and the group he put you in. And do it it in fine insult form! What a value!</p>
<p>There, I fixed it for you, Outlander.</p>
<p>Remember when Rush said that &#8220;Liberals want our American troops to die in Iraq&#8221; or that &#8220;Liberals love terrorists more than they love their fellow Americans&#8221;?</p>
<p>Yeah.</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-614066</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool.

In the old days, you couldn&#039;t get CONs to shut up about &quot;what we believe, dammit!&quot;

Now, none of them seem to agree on anything.

Yup.

It&#039;s an improvement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool.</p>
<p>In the old days, you couldn&#8217;t get CONs to shut up about &#8220;what we believe, dammit!&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, none of them seem to agree on anything.</p>
<p>Yup.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an improvement.</p>
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		<title>By: DFB</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613814</link>
		<dc:creator>DFB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Capn tries with: &quot;1. Refuse to acknowledge that Fox News, Glenn Beck or his guests in any way represent a CON world view.&quot;
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If you ever actually watched Beck interview Scheurer...you know the guy Clinton hired &amp; who CREATED the &quot;Rendition&quot; program under Clinton...you&#039;d be intellectually honest enough to admit that Beck introduces him as somebody he disagrees with on all his policy thoughts...
Scheurer also routinely chastises the US for supporting Israel...huh...which party/Admin wholeheartedly agree with that position...just pure coinkidink that Obama&#039;s inner circle included Edward Said &amp; Rashid Khalidi...

But again, who could expect you to acknowledge a full story, just grab tidbits that can be spun into propaganda. I&#039;m sure MSNBC or Huffington Puke or wherever you cut &amp; paste from must share Obama&#039;s &quot;guests views&quot; then....his list of &quot;guests&quot; has such a rosy &quot;worldview&quot;...Rev Wright, Ayers, Khalidi, Said, Farakhan...and he&#039;s trying hard to add A-jad, KJ Il, Chavez, The Brothers Castro, Ortega...
It&#039;s a silly game you&#039;re trying to play there Capn...you know rocks..and glass houses...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capn tries with: &#8220;1. Refuse to acknowledge that Fox News, Glenn Beck or his guests in any way represent a CON world view.&#8221;<br />
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If you ever actually watched Beck interview Scheurer&#8230;you know the guy Clinton hired &amp; who CREATED the &#8220;Rendition&#8221; program under Clinton&#8230;you&#8217;d be intellectually honest enough to admit that Beck introduces him as somebody he disagrees with on all his policy thoughts&#8230;<br />
Scheurer also routinely chastises the US for supporting Israel&#8230;huh&#8230;which party/Admin wholeheartedly agree with that position&#8230;just pure coinkidink that Obama&#8217;s inner circle included Edward Said &amp; Rashid Khalidi&#8230;</p>
<p>But again, who could expect you to acknowledge a full story, just grab tidbits that can be spun into propaganda. I&#8217;m sure MSNBC or Huffington Puke or wherever you cut &amp; paste from must share Obama&#8217;s &#8220;guests views&#8221; then&#8230;.his list of &#8220;guests&#8221; has such a rosy &#8220;worldview&#8221;&#8230;Rev Wright, Ayers, Khalidi, Said, Farakhan&#8230;and he&#8217;s trying hard to add A-jad, KJ Il, Chavez, The Brothers Castro, Ortega&#8230;<br />
It&#8217;s a silly game you&#8217;re trying to play there Capn&#8230;you know rocks..and glass houses&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: outlander</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613778</link>
		<dc:creator>outlander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CapnAmerica

&quot;For all your judging needs.&quot;  

Not only will CapnAmerica tell you what your thoughts are, he will judge who you agree with and group you accordingly!  And, as a bonus he will judge by telling you what he thinks of the words he put in your mouth and the group he put you in.  And do it it in fine insult form! What a value!

So, if you feel the need to be judged, stand back and let the Capn at it. He requires no input from you. He is self-contained judging unit and  HIPPO-CRYT endorsed. 

Includes BlueJay. MonkeyHawk sold separately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CapnAmerica</p>
<p>&#8220;For all your judging needs.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Not only will CapnAmerica tell you what your thoughts are, he will judge who you agree with and group you accordingly!  And, as a bonus he will judge by telling you what he thinks of the words he put in your mouth and the group he put you in.  And do it it in fine insult form! What a value!</p>
<p>So, if you feel the need to be judged, stand back and let the Capn at it. He requires no input from you. He is self-contained judging unit and  HIPPO-CRYT endorsed. </p>
<p>Includes BlueJay. MonkeyHawk sold separately.</p>
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		<title>By: Monkeyhawk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613755</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkeyhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk to anyone over 65 and ask if they want to get rid of Medicare.  

As Alcoholic Anonymous teaches: &quot;Half-steps achieved us nothing.&quot;

So, for political reasons, Medicare is stuck with covering the health care of the people who, because of age, are the most likely to incur the most expensive medical response.

Now, if (using the &lt;i&gt;commercial&lt;/i&gt; insurance actuarial tables, the wrongest thing in the world is to insure those clients most likely to rack up claims.  

Enlarge the risk pool and the math changes.  Yeah, a strapping healthy 24-year-old isn&#039;t likely to need treatment for glaucoma.  But a 90-year-old is less likely to become a quadriplegic from wrapping his Camero around a telephone pole.  

(Historical note:  A Camero wrapped around a telephone pole is Oklahoma&#039;s Official State Tree.  But I digress....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk to anyone over 65 and ask if they want to get rid of Medicare.  </p>
<p>As Alcoholic Anonymous teaches: &#8220;Half-steps achieved us nothing.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, for political reasons, Medicare is stuck with covering the health care of the people who, because of age, are the most likely to incur the most expensive medical response.</p>
<p>Now, if (using the <i>commercial</i> insurance actuarial tables, the wrongest thing in the world is to insure those clients most likely to rack up claims.  </p>
<p>Enlarge the risk pool and the math changes.  Yeah, a strapping healthy 24-year-old isn&#8217;t likely to need treatment for glaucoma.  But a 90-year-old is less likely to become a quadriplegic from wrapping his Camero around a telephone pole.  </p>
<p>(Historical note:  A Camero wrapped around a telephone pole is Oklahoma&#8217;s Official State Tree.  But I digress&#8230;.)</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613753</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cosmos--

Hank has posted publicly that

1. The Democrats would have a net loss of seats in Congress in 2006.  

In fact the Democrats didn&#039;t lose a single contested seat, and they took back both the House and Senate.

2. McCain would win in 2008.
Obama not only got more votes than McCain, he got more votes than Bush in both elections.

3. The choice of Sarah Palin was brilliant.
Most election watchers now feel that Sarah Palin was a stake through the heart of the campaign.  It showed McCain&#039;s judgment was not sound.

4. the Democrats would lose seats in 2008.  In fact, the Democrats gained a super majority of 60 in the Senate, thanks to Senator Al Franken who will finally be seated.

So, Cosmo, when Hank predicts something, just assume the opposite.  It&#039;s much more likely to be true based on past experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cosmos&#8211;</p>
<p>Hank has posted publicly that</p>
<p>1. The Democrats would have a net loss of seats in Congress in 2006.  </p>
<p>In fact the Democrats didn&#8217;t lose a single contested seat, and they took back both the House and Senate.</p>
<p>2. McCain would win in 2008.<br />
Obama not only got more votes than McCain, he got more votes than Bush in both elections.</p>
<p>3. The choice of Sarah Palin was brilliant.<br />
Most election watchers now feel that Sarah Palin was a stake through the heart of the campaign.  It showed McCain&#8217;s judgment was not sound.</p>
<p>4. the Democrats would lose seats in 2008.  In fact, the Democrats gained a super majority of 60 in the Senate, thanks to Senator Al Franken who will finally be seated.</p>
<p>So, Cosmo, when Hank predicts something, just assume the opposite.  It&#8217;s much more likely to be true based on past experience.</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613752</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MHawk--

I was hoping you got to catch this latest interchange.

We got the classic Nathan:

1. Refuse to acknowledge that Fox News, Glenn Beck or his guests in any way represent a CON world view.

In other words, call night day.

2. When a CON says that &quot;America needs another terrorist attack,&quot; say, &quot;that&#039;s just one person&#039;s opinion.&quot;

3. When asked how Nathan would react if a Liberal guest on a Liberal show said that &quot;America needs to have its soldiers DIE in Iraq to teach America a lesson,&quot; Nathan responds by &quot;you LIBS are not nice.&quot;

4. When returned to the issue at hand by pointing out that civility isn&#039;t the question, he whines even MORE about civility.

This guy&#039;s funnier than a Monty Python skit.  &quot;This isn&#039;t an argument.&quot; &quot;Yes, it is.&quot;  &quot;No, it&#039;s not.&quot; 

&quot;Well, I&#039;ve had enough of this!&quot;

&quot;No, you haven&#039;t.&quot;

&lt;I&gt;Not all CONs are stupid people, but all stupid people are CONs.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MHawk&#8211;</p>
<p>I was hoping you got to catch this latest interchange.</p>
<p>We got the classic Nathan:</p>
<p>1. Refuse to acknowledge that Fox News, Glenn Beck or his guests in any way represent a CON world view.</p>
<p>In other words, call night day.</p>
<p>2. When a CON says that &#8220;America needs another terrorist attack,&#8221; say, &#8220;that&#8217;s just one person&#8217;s opinion.&#8221;</p>
<p>3. When asked how Nathan would react if a Liberal guest on a Liberal show said that &#8220;America needs to have its soldiers DIE in Iraq to teach America a lesson,&#8221; Nathan responds by &#8220;you LIBS are not nice.&#8221;</p>
<p>4. When returned to the issue at hand by pointing out that civility isn&#8217;t the question, he whines even MORE about civility.</p>
<p>This guy&#8217;s funnier than a Monty Python skit.  &#8220;This isn&#8217;t an argument.&#8221; &#8220;Yes, it is.&#8221;  &#8220;No, it&#8217;s not.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;Well, I&#8217;ve had enough of this!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No, you haven&#8217;t.&#8221;</p>
<p><i>Not all CONs are stupid people, but all stupid people are CONs.</i></p>
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		<title>By: BlueJay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613751</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Business would have given up on my great aunt as a bad investment. I can&#039;t imagine ANY insurance company covering surgery and care for a 91 year old woman. She&#039;s given much and all that she COULD give. She is of no further use to commerce.

    FORTUNATELY, society values her. I&#039;m grateful for that.

    We are going to need more of that as the population ages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Business would have given up on my great aunt as a bad investment. I can&#8217;t imagine ANY insurance company covering surgery and care for a 91 year old woman. She&#8217;s given much and all that she COULD give. She is of no further use to commerce.</p>
<p>    FORTUNATELY, society values her. I&#8217;m grateful for that.</p>
<p>    We are going to need more of that as the population ages.</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos_originally</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613750</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos_originally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathaniels&#039; father posted,

HLP posted July 1, 2009 at 3:54 pm

&lt;b&gt;All you need to know about global warming:&lt;/b&gt;

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime-images.html 
-----------------------

Then Hank later seemed to claim that he did &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; really mean to say,

&lt;b&gt;All you need to know about global warming:&lt;/b&gt;

[the solar link above]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathaniels&#8217; father posted,</p>
<p>HLP posted July 1, 2009 at 3:54 pm</p>
<p><b>All you need to know about global warming:</b></p>
<p><a href="http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime-images.html" rel="nofollow">http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime-images.html</a><br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Then Hank later seemed to claim that he did <b>not</b> really mean to say,</p>
<p><b>All you need to know about global warming:</b></p>
<p>[the solar link above]</p>
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		<title>By: BlueJay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613749</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that&#039;s enough for me.

   I don&#039;t have a guaranteed income or lifetime health care like Nathaniel and his father.

    I don&#039;t see ideas from Nathaniel about just WHY it is that he and his are somehow elevated above me and other Americans and how we would go about addressing that.

   Meanwhile?

   My great aunt who is on Medicare is recovering from hip surgery. A month ago, her Medicare coverage got her through congestive heart failure AND pneumonia(the doctor told family, &quot;That little lady should not be alive&quot;) SO well that she was up and around enough in just three weeks to fall and break her hip.

   Government WORKS. 

   Business calculates and exploits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that&#8217;s enough for me.</p>
<p>   I don&#8217;t have a guaranteed income or lifetime health care like Nathaniel and his father.</p>
<p>    I don&#8217;t see ideas from Nathaniel about just WHY it is that he and his are somehow elevated above me and other Americans and how we would go about addressing that.</p>
<p>   Meanwhile?</p>
<p>   My great aunt who is on Medicare is recovering from hip surgery. A month ago, her Medicare coverage got her through congestive heart failure AND pneumonia(the doctor told family, &#8220;That little lady should not be alive&#8221;) SO well that she was up and around enough in just three weeks to fall and break her hip.</p>
<p>   Government WORKS. </p>
<p>   Business calculates and exploits.</p>
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		<title>By: Monkeyhawk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613748</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkeyhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another evening of &quot;Nathaniel&#039;s&quot; whining.

The Marines must be so proud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another evening of &#8220;Nathaniel&#8217;s&#8221; whining.</p>
<p>The Marines must be so proud.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueJay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613747</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup I attacked you Nathaniel.

  I challenged you to present ideas and you don&#039;t have any.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup I attacked you Nathaniel.</p>
<p>  I challenged you to present ideas and you don&#8217;t have any.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613746</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CapnAmerica,

Remember this day.

Twice you have accepted deals with me for civility and then broke those deals.

Now, after your complaints about civility, I once again offered you a deal.  You refused.  You continue to make personal attacks.

Just admit it, you can&#039;t help it.  Neither can many of the other liberals here.

You simply can&#039;t be civil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CapnAmerica,</p>
<p>Remember this day.</p>
<p>Twice you have accepted deals with me for civility and then broke those deals.</p>
<p>Now, after your complaints about civility, I once again offered you a deal.  You refused.  You continue to make personal attacks.</p>
<p>Just admit it, you can&#8217;t help it.  Neither can many of the other liberals here.</p>
<p>You simply can&#8217;t be civil.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613745</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it appears as if CapnAmerica and BlueJay can&#039;t do anything other than attack me personally rather than CapnAmerica explain or attempt to prove his illogical assertion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it appears as if CapnAmerica and BlueJay can&#8217;t do anything other than attack me personally rather than CapnAmerica explain or attempt to prove his illogical assertion.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueJay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613744</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you need to admit, Nathaniel, that you are insulated from the real life realities that face most Americans.

   You have a guaranteed income and guaranteed health care.

   You come to that, as your father did, through your service in the military. Civilian activism has worked to guarantee reward for your service. And I don&#039;t know anyone that would disagree with that.

    But we cannot all join the military to solve our problems and provide our needs. Neither can a civilian populace continue to pay for and support your benefits when they have not even the resources to provide for themselves.

    You and yours have done well in the give and take. But lately, you&#039;re doing a lot of taking and not wanting to talk about giving back.

    If you HAVE ideas outside of &quot;that&#039;s just the way it is&quot; then SHARE them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you need to admit, Nathaniel, that you are insulated from the real life realities that face most Americans.</p>
<p>   You have a guaranteed income and guaranteed health care.</p>
<p>   You come to that, as your father did, through your service in the military. Civilian activism has worked to guarantee reward for your service. And I don&#8217;t know anyone that would disagree with that.</p>
<p>    But we cannot all join the military to solve our problems and provide our needs. Neither can a civilian populace continue to pay for and support your benefits when they have not even the resources to provide for themselves.</p>
<p>    You and yours have done well in the give and take. But lately, you&#8217;re doing a lot of taking and not wanting to talk about giving back.</p>
<p>    If you HAVE ideas outside of &#8220;that&#8217;s just the way it is&#8221; then SHARE them.</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613743</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, well time for computer chess.

We stumped Nathan, but then . . . that&#039;s kinda like stumping a . . . uh . . . &lt;i&gt;stump&lt;/i&gt;.

&quot;Better to be thought the fool by keeping silent than open one&#039;s mouth and remove all doubt,&quot; eh, Nathan.

I can&#039;t say as I blame you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, well time for computer chess.</p>
<p>We stumped Nathan, but then . . . that&#8217;s kinda like stumping a . . . uh . . . <i>stump</i>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Better to be thought the fool by keeping silent than open one&#8217;s mouth and remove all doubt,&#8221; eh, Nathan.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say as I blame you.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613742</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CapnAmerica,

Lets try this one more time.

How do you explain your illogical assertion that because one man said something it means all Conservatives must agree and then you procede to call them all sick?

Can you answer the question?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CapnAmerica,</p>
<p>Lets try this one more time.</p>
<p>How do you explain your illogical assertion that because one man said something it means all Conservatives must agree and then you procede to call them all sick?</p>
<p>Can you answer the question?</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613741</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan, are going to answer the question?

Can you answer the question?

(It seems a lot of people have to ask you to do that these days . . . )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan, are going to answer the question?</p>
<p>Can you answer the question?</p>
<p>(It seems a lot of people have to ask you to do that these days . . . )</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613740</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/?p=14668#comment-613740</guid>
		<description>Let&#039;s try this one more time.

Mo ichido as they say in Japan.

Consider, Nathan, what the response would be from CONs or Libs if Keith Olberman or Rachel Maddow had a guest on who said, &quot;the best thing for America regarding Iraq would be for every last soldier there to DIE!  That way, America would finally see the error of its imperial ways.&quot;

How would you react then?  What would you say to us Libs if we said, &quot;well, that was just one guy talking&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s try this one more time.</p>
<p>Mo ichido as they say in Japan.</p>
<p>Consider, Nathan, what the response would be from CONs or Libs if Keith Olberman or Rachel Maddow had a guest on who said, &#8220;the best thing for America regarding Iraq would be for every last soldier there to DIE!  That way, America would finally see the error of its imperial ways.&#8221;</p>
<p>How would you react then?  What would you say to us Libs if we said, &#8220;well, that was just one guy talking&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613739</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/?p=14668#comment-613739</guid>
		<description>CapnAmerica,

I will add you to the list of liberals here who have no interest in a civil discussion.  (You do remember that it was you complaining about this in another thread last week)

MonkeyHawk, JM Walker, BlueJay, CapnAmerica

I think I am forgetting someone...

Remember this the next time you feel like complaining about civility here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CapnAmerica,</p>
<p>I will add you to the list of liberals here who have no interest in a civil discussion.  (You do remember that it was you complaining about this in another thread last week)</p>
<p>MonkeyHawk, JM Walker, BlueJay, CapnAmerica</p>
<p>I think I am forgetting someone&#8230;</p>
<p>Remember this the next time you feel like complaining about civility here.</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613738</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 11:27 post was answering as Nathan would answer.

But actually, I gave him too much credit.

Check the wide-eyed &quot;I just don&#039;t know what you&#039;re talking about&quot; classic Nathan of 11:25.

Can he really be THAT dumb?

Unfortunately, I&#039;m not seeing a lot of evidence to the contrary these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 11:27 post was answering as Nathan would answer.</p>
<p>But actually, I gave him too much credit.</p>
<p>Check the wide-eyed &#8220;I just don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about&#8221; classic Nathan of 11:25.</p>
<p>Can he really be THAT dumb?</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I&#8217;m not seeing a lot of evidence to the contrary these days.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueJay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613737</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn Beck gave the guy air Nathaniel.

    And you can deny what one of your own said all you like.

   He still said it.

   What is the POSITIVE message from the right?

   What can they offer me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn Beck gave the guy air Nathaniel.</p>
<p>    And you can deny what one of your own said all you like.</p>
<p>   He still said it.</p>
<p>   What is the POSITIVE message from the right?</p>
<p>   What can they offer me?</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613736</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BlueJay--

I have agreed to have a civil conversation with you but all you want to do is make fun and name-call.

I&#039;m not going to dignify your insults with an answer.

&lt;i&gt;Translation: I don&#039;t know my asp from a hole in the ground.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BlueJay&#8211;</p>
<p>I have agreed to have a civil conversation with you but all you want to do is make fun and name-call.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to dignify your insults with an answer.</p>
<p><i>Translation: I don&#8217;t know my asp from a hole in the ground.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613735</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CapnAmerica,

The issue at hand?

How about we focus on your illogical assertion that because one man said something it means all Conservatives must agree and then you procede to call them sick?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CapnAmerica,</p>
<p>The issue at hand?</p>
<p>How about we focus on your illogical assertion that because one man said something it means all Conservatives must agree and then you procede to call them sick?</p>
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		<title>By: BlueJay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/open-thread-71-3/#comment-613734</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the sudden interest in diplomacy Nathaniel?

   We did not see it from you or from cons in general when bush was in power.

   You and yours are OUT of power. If you wished to be listened to, you must say something interesting.

   If you outlaw abortion, as you wish, what is your plan for the care of millions of unwanted babies?

   Health care is clearly broken. I know. I can&#039;t get any. Can you help?

   For more than 25 years, wealth has been concentrated to the few and the greedy. Aside from taxing those folks their drain on society, do YOU have a suggestion for elevating the American worker?

   The American way of life, as currently held dear, is not sustainable and yet is the goal of China and India. Do YOU have ideas as to how we can both maintain the American way of life AND preserve the planet and its resources for future generations?

    Being the party of NO! It&#039;s TOO expensive and I won&#039;t pay! isn&#039;t working.

    What can you say that is interesting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the sudden interest in diplomacy Nathaniel?</p>
<p>   We did not see it from you or from cons in general when bush was in power.</p>
<p>   You and yours are OUT of power. If you wished to be listened to, you must say something interesting.</p>
<p>   If you outlaw abortion, as you wish, what is your plan for the care of millions of unwanted babies?</p>
<p>   Health care is clearly broken. I know. I can&#8217;t get any. Can you help?</p>
<p>   For more than 25 years, wealth has been concentrated to the few and the greedy. Aside from taxing those folks their drain on society, do YOU have a suggestion for elevating the American worker?</p>
<p>   The American way of life, as currently held dear, is not sustainable and yet is the goal of China and India. Do YOU have ideas as to how we can both maintain the American way of life AND preserve the planet and its resources for future generations?</p>
<p>    Being the party of NO! It&#8217;s TOO expensive and I won&#8217;t pay! isn&#8217;t working.</p>
<p>    What can you say that is interesting?</p>
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