Wall Street Journal columnist and former Reagan speechwriter Peggy Noonan didn’t pull any punches in expressing her opinion that Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is bad for conservatives and was disastrous as a national candidate. Though she credited Palin for being a gifted retail politician, Noonan said Palin “was limited in her ability to explain and defend her positions, and sometimes in knowing them. . . . She wasn’t thoughtful enough to know she wasn’t thoughtful enough. Her presentation up to the end has been scattered, illogical, manipulative and self-referential to the point of self-reverence. ‘I’m not wired that way,’ ‘I’m not a quitter,’ ‘I’m standing up for our values.’ I’m, I’m, I’m. In another age it might not have been terrible, but here and now it was actually rather horrifying.”
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Here’s why all this matters. The world is a dangerous place. It has never been more so, or more complicated, more straining of the reasoning powers of those with actual genius and true judgment. This is a time for conservative leaders who know how to think.
–Ms Noonan
Ms Noonan is obviously speaking to conservatives, but I’d expand her statement to say “this is a time for us to elect only leaders who know how to think.”
Although Ms Noonan and I agree that Sarah Palin doesn’t meet the criterion, I note that Gov. Palin nevertheless has an opinion piece in today’s WaPo. And so the putative rehabilitation of Sarah Palin begins.
Which employee of which right wing think tank wrote it for her, do you think?
Oh boy…..SOMEBODY is not gonna like this thread topic.
I’m really not a big fan of Noonan but her assessment of Palin’s strengths and weaknesses is pretty spot on.
Fancy pageant-walkin’ and winking can only carry one so far on the national stage.
Thankfully Palin is resigning so she can devote more time to destroying the Republican party.
Is Peggy Noonan jealous of Sarah Palin?
I don’t think Noonan is jealous, she can hold down a job.
it seems pedant, dan, and maggot are envious
and they continue to focus on the important things happening in this country……..along with bj, phantom, monkwuk capn’n etc
and beber, once he gets to work
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wichhick
Posted July 14, 2009 at 6:32 am | Permalink
it seems pedant, dan, and maggot are envious
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Envious of…
Establishment Repubs didnt like Reagan either. But the folks did because he was one of them.
And I still split a gut when people insinuate Palins not smart enough for the job. She can at least speak without a teleprompter.
The fear in the establishment and on the Left is thick this morning.
Palin might well be remembered as “the little governor who could have” :-)
Who do you consider to be “Establishment Repubs” these days? Back in the Reagan era the party still had the remnants of the Northeastern US Rockefeller Republicans (Bush I and Bush II, to a lesser extent, come from this tradition).
These days, the GOP has been run out of New England. Who are the Establishment Republicans?
From Palins WaPo op-ed on Cap and Tax-
“The ironic beauty in this plan? Soon, even the most ardent liberal will understand supply-side economics”
Daniel asks- “Who are the Establishment Republicans?”
I’m not speaking exclusively about elected officials. I am including the beltway chattering class like Noonan, George Will, etc. Party officials as well like Micheal Steele.
“And I still split a gut when people insinuate Palins not smart enough for the job. She can at least speak without a teleprompter.” — What sort of alternate, twisted universe does this person inhabit?
beber
Brilliant commentary. Have another Red Bull.
That person is a sick twisted freak, from the universe known as Wingnuttia.
The Republican Party self destructed without any help from Palin. It was and inside job performed flawlessly by Washington insiders. The savior of the GOP will not be any Republican… it will be Obama and total Democrat rule! Unfortunately, the middle ground, where logic and reason resides will get trampled on again as voters scurry back and forth from the extreme left to extreme right and back again.
You’re right, Sam… Palin only self-destructed the 2008 election… which of course, could be connected directly to the poor choices of John McCain…
McCain could have made a MUCH better choice for VP than soon-to-be-ex-governor Palin… He was looking for right wing female voters…
Who should McCain have chose?????????????????
Well, Herb… McCain had a pretty much open field… Let’s see… He could have gone with Michelle Bachman of MN(but she’s even more of a wingnut than Palin); or, he could have gone after somebody like Elizabeth Dole… She is fairly main stream Republican…
There are others… Lindsay Graham, Mitch McConnel, Mitt Romney, Charles Grassley, Olympia Snowe… just to name a few…
Gosh Herb, even Peggy Noonan would have been better qualified than Palin… :-)
What does a politician want? Publicity, to be in the spotlight.
What does the media keep giving Sarah Palin? Yup.
She is either an extremely fascinating character to many, or there must not be much else going on.
Lighten up Peggy, It was rather funny!
Herbert
Your asking Chas for advise on Republicans? Please.
McCain lost because he ran as a Democrat. And his faithful press corp not only deserted him, they savaged him. Must have been a big shock huh.
Daniel
Posted July 14, 2009 at 6:22 am | Permalink
I’m really not a big fan of Noonan but her assessment of Palin’s strengths and weaknesses is pretty spot on.
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Surprise a ‘new’ topic today. Bush, Palin, Cheney, Palin, Bush, Cheney, Palin…..
Why can’t we get an original subject?
Daniel you are such a pushover. Never agreed with Noonan before but guess what – she writes a critical article of the lefts favorite target and you are now – wait for it – a Noonan fan.
How long will this love affair last?
What is it about Palin that the left can’t leave alone. Boy she has you guys running scared!
As for Noonan she has always reminded me of a dizzy blonde even when she was a regular columnist for Good Housekeeping. My how her stock has risen – with the Palin haters.
Palin scares the left because she drew bigger crowds, with very short notice, than Obama did. (except of course when there was a free concert to fill the seats before Obo showed up.)
Stock up on Depends Dems. Palin’s not going away.
Heckler
Posted July 14, 2009 at 7:54 am | Permalink
Palin scares the left because she drew bigger crowds, with very short notice, than Obama did. (except of course when there was a free concert to fill the seats before Obo showed up.)
Stock up on Depends Dems. Palin’s not going away.
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Heck, you’re mistaken. Palin outdrew McCain, but her crowds never approached Obama’s for size. Check your numbers again.
XXX
I think you need to check your figures. Throw out the ones were there was a free concert there to draw a crowd of young people.
okobserver
Posted July 14, 2009 at 7:51 am | Permalink
What is it about Palin that the left can’t leave alone. Boy she has you guys running scared!
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Okobserver, I don’t think Libs are scared of Palin, I think it’s more a matter of outrage. Palin ran a nasty campaign.
And she’s a Ditz.
Personally, I think Palin is a blessing. She has the hard-core rightwing of the GOP sewed up and they’re the ones who get to pick the GOP nominee in the primaries. But a Palin ticket in a general election would be a slaughter. There is no way Palin will EVER be president.
Plain to see, repubs loved the ‘celebrity appeal’ of palin, that they loved to deride about Obama.
Palin was a godsend for the dems, you just never knew what would come out of her mouth next.
Liberals like Palin, cause we like good comedy!! LOL
Heckler
Posted July 14, 2009 at 7:50 am | Permalink
Herbert
Your asking Chas for advise on Republicans? Please.
McCain lost because he ran as a Democrat. And his faithful press corp not only deserted him, they savaged him. Must have been a big shock huh.
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So, Heckler… What did you find wrong with any of those other possibilities I listed for Herb, upthread??? Hmmmm???
XXX can you give me an example of her ‘nasty’ campaign. Also something that proves she is a ‘ditz’ other than the left has always said she was. She had a couple of less than stellar interviews at the beginning but came on strong after that. Heckler is right about the crowds she drew and is still capable of drawing.
Words are cheap. Proof is always harder. So don’t give me your impressions. Give me actually instances. You know like telling a man in a wheelchair to stand up. Or revealing to the press that the ’secret hiding place’ for the VP is under the VP residence. You know things that really make you sound like a ditz.
BTW she would not be my first choice. That was in 2008 and is right now Romney because of his experience and expertise on rebuilding large companies that were in bankruptsy. Our next prez will need that talent.
I just think the left is running scared because they see the weak prez that we currently have and the mess he is making of our great country.
Phantom
Posted July 14, 2009 at 8:20 am | Permalink
Palin was a godsend for the dems, you just never knew what would come out of her mouth next.
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Phantom I think you have her confused with Joe Biden.
She has the hard-core rightwing of the GOP sewed up and they’re the ones who get to pick the GOP nominee in the primaries
XXX keeps saying this and it makes me laugh every time. Does he seriously think that the righties picked McCain? I know of a paltry few who voted for him because they thought he was the pragmatic choice since it seemed that he had appeal to independents.
Those who voted from their gut voted for Huckabee, Romney or Ron Paul.
Chas said-”So, Heckler… What did you find wrong with any of those other possibilities I listed for Herb, upthread??? Hmmmm???”
For the most part the choices you listed are just like McCain. Democrat light. Or typical establishment Republicans. Big business, big government.
Palin is a breath of fresh air. She talks to people like they talk to each other, not like a career politician.
You gotta be schitin me? ANOTHER Palin thread? You people just can’t hide your passion for her can you?
Palin for President in 2012 to 2014ish……
You gotta be schitin me? ANOTHER Palin thread? You people just can’t hide your passion for her can you?
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My thoughts exactly, LIBs love Palin.
LIBs are scared of a hot, smart, and independent woman.
They like ‘em dumb and codependent, like Hillary.
The reason Phillip and most other libs are obbsessd with Sarah:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124753066246235811.html
They can’t face the fact that they’ve elected the sorriest president ever!
Speaking of dependent women, Sanford’s wife intervened for him to save his job. Gives ‘Stand by Your Man’ a new level of meaning.
She’s not resigning as much as she’s signing, signing up for a reality show or some other media spot.
Who knows she might get a gig on Apprentice.
Or, Get Me Outta here, I’m a Celebrity!
If the rw faction get SP the nomination it’s clear sailing, for the dems. Just saw a flash on the screen “Majority of Republicans don’t think SP is qualified for pres..’
The Plan of the Left, Lies, Liars and Lice
Bloatus Porkulus View
Stimulus – *Paul Krugman of The New York Times leads the pack calling for yet another “stimulus.” He claims the $787-billion package was “too small.”
reality:
The Porkulus spending bill – After months of bragging about 150,000 jobs “saved or created,” the GAO admits that the states have done almost nothing with their portion of the funds to do anything but keep bureaucrats employed. Jobs not saved last week – 540000.
Global Warmers – Henny Penny Spokesman
Global warming demi-god James Hansen of NASA castigates the Waxman-Markey cap-and-trade energy tax as not going far enough despite its $9.4-trillion costs. He labels it “counterfeit” not because it does too much, but too little in his view.
reality:
Despite CO2 levels rising according to the ‘tax and spend’ Democraps – global temperatures are falling, the arctic ice cap is the same as it was in the 1970s and tree ring growth for the 20th century show no warming trends at all.
Health Scare Bill:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi gargantuan health care bill founders a bit after 40 Blue Dog Democrats sign a letter to slow down on Health Care. Even so, the Bella Lagosi Pelosi, has tax specialists trying to design a trillion-dollar tax hike to steal from the empty pockets of American taxpayers.
Pelosi’s denial: I did not have seckual relationship with that CIA agent.
Democratic war on spies from the CIA. Panetta and Director of National Intelligence Adm. Dennis Blair are in a “polar struggle”, the kind of constant infighting that thwarts our ability to pursue, gather and apply the best intelligence we can, the
information we need to survive the war we are in.
reality:
The CIA has once again become a laughing stock around the world and foreign governments no longer trust the CIA to keep a secret.
So, it is as I suspected, the con posters here do not reflect the repub party opinion, and are far right palinistas.
Sweet! Cut’n'pastes without giving credit…lol.
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Phantom
Posted July 14, 2009 at 12:14 pm | Permalink
So, it is as I suspected, the con posters here do not reflect the repub party opinion, and are far right palinistas.
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Well Phantom, as a far left extremist, you would know something about the fringes.
I’m with okob. In my mind Romney is still the man who should be president.
Wholesale Prices Rise More Than Expected in June
Fox News
The Producer Price Index, which tracks the costs of goods before they reach store shelves, increased 1.8 percent in June, according to the Labor Department — nearly double what economists had predicted.
Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke warns that the recovery will be slow. That means the unemployment rate will keep rising, probably hitting double-digits in the months ahead.
O’BAMA
WORST
PRESIDENT
EVER
The Biggest Corporate Welfare Program in History
Fox News
Corporations will be the biggest winners under cap-and-trade. Consumers will be the biggest losers.
Senator Barbara Boxer, the biggest Senate proponent of cap-and-trade and the one who will dole out the billions of dollars worth of permits on the Senate side.
That’s why electric utilities support the bill, because they stand to make a fortune from it. For instance, Exelon CEO John Rowe estimates that for every $10 increase in the price of cap-and-trade permits, Exelon’s annual revenues will increase $750 million dollars. Those estimates can only mean that they believe, correctly, that they will be able to raise their rates considerably.
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Imagine that just like Europe – Utility companies getting rich and CO2 levels are not falling.
What a suprise that Cap and Trade is nothing but a scam.
Bend over folks – it’s coming…
Voters’ Remorse — Is Baracklash on the Horizon?
Fox News
Since January Obama has failed to help many of his core supporters. Will they soon turn against him?
Ninety-five percent of blacks voted for Obama. As of June, black unemployment stood at 14.7 percent,
Unemployment for Hispanics in June was 12.2 percent, an increase from 8.8 percent upon Bush’s departure.
On July 3, Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, who supported Obama for president, wrote in The Wall Street Journal that “Many American supporters of Israel who voted for Barack Obama now suspect they may have been victims of a bait and switch. Now, some of them apparently have voters’ remorse.”
O’BAMA
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Regular
The folks that will really make out like big dogs are the traders and bankers who trade the carbon credits. Wall Street in other words. No wonder Obama and the libs have been sucking so much face with Wall Streeters.
And usefull idiots like B.J. will continue to make excuses for the Boy King.
Yep Heckler – even when presented with evidence that Europeans are paying higher and higher energy prices, all the while European utility companies are getting richer, the Left ignores the warning.
Be prepared for dark and cold houses, you won’t be able to afford the utility bills.
Reg.
Yep. And guys like XXX who say that they think it’s time to get business out of government won’t be able to tell where government ends and business begins. And they will enrich one another like never before.
At our expense.
But you can’t tell them that.
They’ll have to get battered over the head with it for years before they’ll admit that they made
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America
Thanks, Obama: Cap-and Trade will be $4300 per family energy tax
Numbers floating around measuring the costs of cap and trade. For instance, a study by MIT professor John Reilly shows a carbon cap and trade would cost the average American household $3,900 a year. $800 of that figure comes from, according to Reilly, “the cost to the economy [that] involves all those actions people have to take to reduce their
use of fossil fuels or find ways to use them without releasing [Green House Gases].”
But the direct tax on household energy use is just the beginning. The energy tax also hits producers of goods and services.
O’BAMA
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But “Regular” –
“Clean Coal” technology makes Cap & Trade a moot issue, doesn’t it?
Billboard Claiming Martin Luther King Was Republican Angers Black Activists in Houston
Fox News
A jumbo-sized road sign claiming that civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. was a Republican has stirred a religious and political fight in Houston, where a church leader is trying to draw black voters into the GOP.
The founder of RagingRepublicans.org, the black conservative group that sponsored the sign, told FOXNews.com that the sign was designed to get blacks to rethink their political affiliation — about 95 percent of blacks voted for Barack Obama in the 2008 presidential elections — and that this is just the beginning. He said a radio campaign that focuses on “the destructive nature of liberalism” is forthcoming.
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O’BAMA is not your friend.
Ninety-five percent of blacks voted for Obama. As of June, black unemployment stood at 14.7 percent.
“July 13th. In an interview with The TODAY Show’s Ann Curry on Monday, 19-year-old
Levi Johnston, the father of Bristol Palin’s son, Tripp, sounds off on
why he thinks Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is stepping down.”
The Today show interviews the young former boyfriend of the daughter of a politician for an opinion.
This is newsworthy? This is prime time news?
Next up MSNBC will be reporting Elvis coming out of a UFO.
I missed it by 2….
After reading the intro to this thread, I though it would be three posts before someone attacked Peggy Noonan.
It was 5 (congrats Jwink!)
Peggy Noonan was the one who put words in Ronald Reagan’s mouth.
She stayed up late enough (back when TV stations actually signed off) to remember that “High Flight” film which led to the Star Spangled Banner and dead air, and she inserted it into a Reagan speech that ended, “…and touch the hand of God.”
There are some CON websites which associate that line with something Ronald Reagan didn’t read (written by Peggy Noonan) off a TelePrompter.
It’s interesting how the CONs so freely toss away their former heroes (George WMD Bush comes to mind) with the “They’re not REALLY conservatives!” meme.
C’mon. Noonan was responsible for writing the gospel of Saint Ronald Reagan.
If she, of all people, is saying deep down the Moose-Dresser is shallow, you’d think some authentic conservatives might consider her insight.
Instead, the CONs toss away another one of the Repubic Party’s traditional stalwarts.
It’s kinda sad some legitimate conservatives such as Barry Goldwater or William F. Buckley aren’t around to see Palinfatuation.
If you think Sarah Palin is the answer, you’re asking some pretty weird questions.
65% of Americans, including 51% of Republicans think Palin is unqualified to be President.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/07/13/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5154259.shtml?tag=contentMain;contentBody
Please, please, please let her run for Prez in the 2012 election.
“Maggotpunk
Posted July 14, 2009 at 7:57 pm | Permalink
…Please, please, please let her run for Prez in the 2012 election.”
Only if she runs as a republican…
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brian_nuevo
Posted July 14, 2009 at 8:18 pm | Permalink
“Maggotpunk
Posted July 14, 2009 at 7:57 pm | Permalink
…Please, please, please let her run for Prez in the 2012 election.”
Only if she runs as a republican…
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Word is she’s gonna go uber-maverick and build an independent conservative movement. Shades of H. Ross Perot?
http://www.sarahpac.com/news/news51.aspx
I would suggest that Democrats should contribute heavily to SarahPAC.