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	<title>Comments on: Franchise trash collections, don&#8217;t add fee</title>
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		<title>By: ProudMan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615525</link>
		<dc:creator>ProudMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your neighborhood homeowners association can already collectively bargain for a particular neighborhood.  Those in support of a government endorsed monopoly can get a head start on their so-called savings today!

Just like phone service before the break-up you will not get what you paid for.  You will get what they decide you need at whatever price they want to charge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your neighborhood homeowners association can already collectively bargain for a particular neighborhood.  Those in support of a government endorsed monopoly can get a head start on their so-called savings today!</p>
<p>Just like phone service before the break-up you will not get what you paid for.  You will get what they decide you need at whatever price they want to charge.</p>
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		<title>By: Barnie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615381</link>
		<dc:creator>Barnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jwink, High schools are already government entities.  Your too late on that one.  Excluding Private schools of course</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jwink, High schools are already government entities.  Your too late on that one.  Excluding Private schools of course</p>
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		<title>By: JWink</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615326</link>
		<dc:creator>JWink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim Johnson:  How&#039;s this:  &quot;6) Improve efficiency by outlawing competition.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Johnson:  How&#8217;s this:  &#8220;6) Improve efficiency by outlawing competition.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JimJohnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615245</link>
		<dc:creator>JimJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perfect JWink!

#6 is very nice, but would be the only item on your list that Government does NOT implement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfect JWink!</p>
<p>#6 is very nice, but would be the only item on your list that Government does NOT implement.</p>
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		<title>By: JWink</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615241</link>
		<dc:creator>JWink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Wichita Visioneering organization should identify the list of private businesses and activities in Wichita that City Council could assist by using its collective intelligence to increase efficiency by &quot;franchising.&quot;  

That is, eliminate duplication of services in the interest of increasing government efficiency.  A major goal would be to reduce driving on the streets of Wichita.  In fact, tickets could be given to  citizens caught driving without an adequate reason.  

Some ideas were mentioned above.   

1) Grocery stores.  Permit only one large grocery store in each quadrant of the city.  

2) Convenience stores.   ditto.  Close the rest.  Turn down Quik Trip&#039;s current application to build a new store on Ridge and K-96 near the existing Kwik Shop.  This would be inefficient. 

3)  I notice several &quot;key shops&quot; here and there.  Is this the most efficient use of manpower?  

4)  High Schools.  Instead of some 10 or so Wichita high schools, combine them into one mega sky-scraper high school located in the center of downtown Wichita perhaps in the new downtown white elephant arena for which no viable use has yet to be identified.   

5)  City Halls.   Instead of a bunch of inefficient suburban city halls such as Park City, Goddard, Haysville and Derby, combine them under the umbrella of the superior Wichita city council and administrative staff.  

6)  Combine Sedgwick county government and Wichita city government with nearby Kingman county government and Kingman city government to achieve economy of scale. 

7)  Combine all farms in Sedgwick County under one &quot;Farm Czar&quot; who would provide Monday morning work orders by e-mail to all sub-farmers.  And  follow up with inspections to insure the work is being done according to guidelines.  

8)  All decisions would be reviewed by a &quot;Government Unilateral Master of Work&quot; (acronym: GUM UP WORKS)whose decisions could not be debated EXCEPT with a &quot;letter of transit ... which even you can&#039;t get Rick.&quot; (From Casablanca).

9)  All money transactions to be handled from a more efficient &quot;prolatariat work center&quot; on an an &quot;IOU&quot; basis to eliminate need for paper money certificates.  

10) No argument or protesting allowed by common ordinary citizens challenging their superiors in government.  

This would start a more efficient &quot;citizen collectivization&quot; in Wichita!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Wichita Visioneering organization should identify the list of private businesses and activities in Wichita that City Council could assist by using its collective intelligence to increase efficiency by &#8220;franchising.&#8221;  </p>
<p>That is, eliminate duplication of services in the interest of increasing government efficiency.  A major goal would be to reduce driving on the streets of Wichita.  In fact, tickets could be given to  citizens caught driving without an adequate reason.  </p>
<p>Some ideas were mentioned above.   </p>
<p>1) Grocery stores.  Permit only one large grocery store in each quadrant of the city.  </p>
<p>2) Convenience stores.   ditto.  Close the rest.  Turn down Quik Trip&#8217;s current application to build a new store on Ridge and K-96 near the existing Kwik Shop.  This would be inefficient. </p>
<p>3)  I notice several &#8220;key shops&#8221; here and there.  Is this the most efficient use of manpower?  </p>
<p>4)  High Schools.  Instead of some 10 or so Wichita high schools, combine them into one mega sky-scraper high school located in the center of downtown Wichita perhaps in the new downtown white elephant arena for which no viable use has yet to be identified.   </p>
<p>5)  City Halls.   Instead of a bunch of inefficient suburban city halls such as Park City, Goddard, Haysville and Derby, combine them under the umbrella of the superior Wichita city council and administrative staff.  </p>
<p>6)  Combine Sedgwick county government and Wichita city government with nearby Kingman county government and Kingman city government to achieve economy of scale. </p>
<p>7)  Combine all farms in Sedgwick County under one &#8220;Farm Czar&#8221; who would provide Monday morning work orders by e-mail to all sub-farmers.  And  follow up with inspections to insure the work is being done according to guidelines.  </p>
<p>8)  All decisions would be reviewed by a &#8220;Government Unilateral Master of Work&#8221; (acronym: GUM UP WORKS)whose decisions could not be debated EXCEPT with a &#8220;letter of transit &#8230; which even you can&#8217;t get Rick.&#8221; (From Casablanca).</p>
<p>9)  All money transactions to be handled from a more efficient &#8220;prolatariat work center&#8221; on an an &#8220;IOU&#8221; basis to eliminate need for paper money certificates.  </p>
<p>10) No argument or protesting allowed by common ordinary citizens challenging their superiors in government.  </p>
<p>This would start a more efficient &#8220;citizen collectivization&#8221; in Wichita!</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615239</link>
		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time and again I&#039;ve hired small independent haulers because I like the service I get from them, and time and again they&#039;ve been bought out by the big dogs, and I&#039;ve had to go looking for another independent. Now the big dogs want an exclusive. I hope the city doesn&#039;t give it to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time and again I&#8217;ve hired small independent haulers because I like the service I get from them, and time and again they&#8217;ve been bought out by the big dogs, and I&#8217;ve had to go looking for another independent. Now the big dogs want an exclusive. I hope the city doesn&#8217;t give it to them.</p>
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		<title>By: JimJohnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615231</link>
		<dc:creator>JimJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barnie
Posted July 5, 2009 at 1:50 pm &#124; Permalink
Utilities don’t have to drive around big huge trucks everyday as part of their business, and stop at 100 houses a day. The trash companies would save a butt load of money in gas, by not having to jump and skip around houses, the city would save money by not having to re-pave roads as often.

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Yet Joe Pager didn&#039;t list any of those things as a reason for making a Change.  

Increasing Revenue is the stated goal.

And indeed, increasing the licensing fee for existing haulers is the option the Council Members reportedly preferred.  

More Government Revenue - is a goal all by itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barnie<br />
Posted July 5, 2009 at 1:50 pm | Permalink<br />
Utilities don’t have to drive around big huge trucks everyday as part of their business, and stop at 100 houses a day. The trash companies would save a butt load of money in gas, by not having to jump and skip around houses, the city would save money by not having to re-pave roads as often.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Yet Joe Pager didn&#8217;t list any of those things as a reason for making a Change.  </p>
<p>Increasing Revenue is the stated goal.</p>
<p>And indeed, increasing the licensing fee for existing haulers is the option the Council Members reportedly preferred.  </p>
<p>More Government Revenue &#8211; is a goal all by itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Barnie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615230</link>
		<dc:creator>Barnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Utilities don&#039;t have to drive around big huge trucks everyday as part of their business, and stop at 100 houses a day.   The trash companies would save a butt load of money in gas, by not having to jump and skip around houses, the city would save money by not having to re-pave roads as often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Utilities don&#8217;t have to drive around big huge trucks everyday as part of their business, and stop at 100 houses a day.   The trash companies would save a butt load of money in gas, by not having to jump and skip around houses, the city would save money by not having to re-pave roads as often.</p>
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		<title>By: Barnie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615229</link>
		<dc:creator>Barnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, call me a socialist, statist, conservative, whatever you want to label me as, because I looking for a cost effective solution that works out for everybody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, call me a socialist, statist, conservative, whatever you want to label me as, because I looking for a cost effective solution that works out for everybody.</p>
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		<title>By: American_Way</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615228</link>
		<dc:creator>American_Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And do not kid yourself.

Utilities increase their rates to make up for the franchise fees. Just like they would any other expense.

But it makes people &quot;feel&quot; good. Like they are &quot;doing something&quot; for society....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And do not kid yourself.</p>
<p>Utilities increase their rates to make up for the franchise fees. Just like they would any other expense.</p>
<p>But it makes people &#8220;feel&#8221; good. Like they are &#8220;doing something&#8221; for society&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Barnie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615227</link>
		<dc:creator>Barnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever, the Franchising with the option of an Individual bypassing it to choose the company they want to use.  Would save everybody money, while giving the people the option to choose what company they want to do business if they don&#039;t like the franchising idea.  

Plus, if the City appropriated customers to the Collection companies based on their business growth.  It would most likley work out in the favor for smaller companies.  Since larger companies like Waste connections business growth has probably steadied out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever, the Franchising with the option of an Individual bypassing it to choose the company they want to use.  Would save everybody money, while giving the people the option to choose what company they want to do business if they don&#8217;t like the franchising idea.  </p>
<p>Plus, if the City appropriated customers to the Collection companies based on their business growth.  It would most likley work out in the favor for smaller companies.  Since larger companies like Waste connections business growth has probably steadied out.</p>
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		<title>By: JimJohnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615223</link>
		<dc:creator>JimJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh Barnie, you LOVE Government control of private companies, don&#039;t you?

Can&#039;t wait to meddle and stir things up, and &#039;FIX&#039; everything just right.

As for what happens if you miss a payment to a Government Garbage man, you lose one finger per payment missed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh Barnie, you LOVE Government control of private companies, don&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait to meddle and stir things up, and &#8216;FIX&#8217; everything just right.</p>
<p>As for what happens if you miss a payment to a Government Garbage man, you lose one finger per payment missed.</p>
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		<title>By: Wiseman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615219</link>
		<dc:creator>Wiseman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops!
I have fat finger a &quot;m&quot; instead of a &quot;n&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops!<br />
I have fat finger a &#8220;m&#8221; instead of a &#8220;n&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Wiseman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615217</link>
		<dc:creator>Wiseman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if you missed making a payment and your credit goes bad them what happens?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if you missed making a payment and your credit goes bad them what happens?</p>
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		<title>By: JimJohnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615216</link>
		<dc:creator>JimJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And ONE Farm.

Everyone would be required to go out to the fields every day to work on THE Farm.

Don&#039;t need A Grocery store, just go to THE Farm everyday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And ONE Farm.</p>
<p>Everyone would be required to go out to the fields every day to work on THE Farm.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t need A Grocery store, just go to THE Farm everyday.</p>
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		<title>By: Barnie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615215</link>
		<dc:creator>Barnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, Lies would rather have a Licensing Fee, because they can&#039;t compete with Waste Connections.  Waste Connections is big enough that losing some business here in Wichita wouldn&#039;t&#039; hurt them.  So why not use the Franchising option, but assign neighborhoods and businesses, according to each companies business growth rate. So they wouldn&#039;t&#039; lose business.  Give Lies and other smaller collection companies the same amount of customers they have now, while adding new customers down the road, according to their growth rate.  My guess is that since Lies is a smaller company than Waste Connections, their Growth Rate is larger, considering Waste Connections growth rate has probably steadied out, since they are so large.  This will even out the amount of business each collection company receives to an even playing field.  Also why not leave an option open that allows customers to choose the company they want to use, and if they don&#039;t want to use the company assigned to their neighborhood bad enough, they can pay and extra 2-4 dollars a month to have the company the want to come to their neighborhood.  

If I dislike the way Waste Connections does business bad enough, say I have the choice to Choose Lies if I pay an extra 2-6 dollars a month, and the Lies and the City can split the extra Fee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, Lies would rather have a Licensing Fee, because they can&#8217;t compete with Waste Connections.  Waste Connections is big enough that losing some business here in Wichita wouldn&#8217;t&#8217; hurt them.  So why not use the Franchising option, but assign neighborhoods and businesses, according to each companies business growth rate. So they wouldn&#8217;t&#8217; lose business.  Give Lies and other smaller collection companies the same amount of customers they have now, while adding new customers down the road, according to their growth rate.  My guess is that since Lies is a smaller company than Waste Connections, their Growth Rate is larger, considering Waste Connections growth rate has probably steadied out, since they are so large.  This will even out the amount of business each collection company receives to an even playing field.  Also why not leave an option open that allows customers to choose the company they want to use, and if they don&#8217;t want to use the company assigned to their neighborhood bad enough, they can pay and extra 2-4 dollars a month to have the company the want to come to their neighborhood.  </p>
<p>If I dislike the way Waste Connections does business bad enough, say I have the choice to Choose Lies if I pay an extra 2-6 dollars a month, and the Lies and the City can split the extra Fee.</p>
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		<title>By: American_Way</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615212</link>
		<dc:creator>American_Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We sure could eliminate a lot of waste if the government just controlled everything. It would be much more convenient to just let the government dictate everything.

Who needs those pesky extra employees and staffs all the competing companies hire?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We sure could eliminate a lot of waste if the government just controlled everything. It would be much more convenient to just let the government dictate everything.</p>
<p>Who needs those pesky extra employees and staffs all the competing companies hire?</p>
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		<title>By: American_Way</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615210</link>
		<dc:creator>American_Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we only had one grocery store we wouldn&#039;t have to worry about wasting gasedriving to different stores to buy cheaper items. Everything could be in one place. Or just one chain, then we wouldn&#039;t have to worry about coupons or advertising in newspapers, all the different hours of operation (just one set of hours which are at Barnies convenience for shopping).

Gas stations? Who needs all those different brands?

Just one national gas company would do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we only had one grocery store we wouldn&#8217;t have to worry about wasting gasedriving to different stores to buy cheaper items. Everything could be in one place. Or just one chain, then we wouldn&#8217;t have to worry about coupons or advertising in newspapers, all the different hours of operation (just one set of hours which are at Barnies convenience for shopping).</p>
<p>Gas stations? Who needs all those different brands?</p>
<p>Just one national gas company would do it.</p>
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		<title>By: American_Way</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615208</link>
		<dc:creator>American_Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Barnie, maybe we should just have one grocery store chain in town too.

That would be most efficient, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Barnie, maybe we should just have one grocery store chain in town too.</p>
<p>That would be most efficient, right?</p>
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		<title>By: American_Way</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615207</link>
		<dc:creator>American_Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Barnie, maybe we should just have out grocery store chain in town too.

That would be most efficient, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Barnie, maybe we should just have out grocery store chain in town too.</p>
<p>That would be most efficient, right?</p>
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		<title>By: American_Way</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615203</link>
		<dc:creator>American_Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It hurts you because you have just defined a monopoly. They can charge whatever they want. They can define what they pick up (no more large appliance items for example), how they pick it up (approved bags or carts), charges, rates, hours, etc... You have also put a number of private competing companies with employees, families, and healthcare insurance out of business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It hurts you because you have just defined a monopoly. They can charge whatever they want. They can define what they pick up (no more large appliance items for example), how they pick it up (approved bags or carts), charges, rates, hours, etc&#8230; You have also put a number of private competing companies with employees, families, and healthcare insurance out of business.</p>
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		<title>By: JimJohnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615201</link>
		<dc:creator>JimJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trash fees

Joe Pajor, assistant director of public works, gave council members three options to generate more revenue from trash pickup and, in some cases, improve service.

(Always the Goal of Government - MORE REVENUE.)

One was to have companies bid on one citywide contract.

That would likely reduce costs to consumers, provide uniform service to everyone and allow the city to specify what services should be offered, such as curbside recycling.

&lt;b&gt;But the move would probably bump out some existing companies.

(Just like ObamaCare would bump out private health insurance companies.  But then, who cares about choosing your own health insurance company or choosing your own Doctor?)


&lt;b&gt;Another option would franchise parts of the city.

(Government choosing which companies can do business in which parts of the city, and collecting a MOB territory fee.  GOVERNMENT CONTROL)

But the option council members seemed most open to would simply create a licensing fee for existing haulers.


That would let the city take a cut of the money Wichitans pay to their haulers. The city is discussing a 5 percent license fee — the same it charges some other utilities.

(Sure, raise taxes on everybody.)

http://www.kansas.com/759/story/874796.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trash fees</p>
<p>Joe Pajor, assistant director of public works, gave council members three options to generate more revenue from trash pickup and, in some cases, improve service.</p>
<p>(Always the Goal of Government &#8211; MORE REVENUE.)</p>
<p>One was to have companies bid on one citywide contract.</p>
<p>That would likely reduce costs to consumers, provide uniform service to everyone and allow the city to specify what services should be offered, such as curbside recycling.</p>
<p><b>But the move would probably bump out some existing companies.</p>
<p>(Just like ObamaCare would bump out private health insurance companies.  But then, who cares about choosing your own health insurance company or choosing your own Doctor?)</p>
<p></b><b>Another option would franchise parts of the city.</p>
<p>(Government choosing which companies can do business in which parts of the city, and collecting a MOB territory fee.  GOVERNMENT CONTROL)</p>
<p>But the option council members seemed most open to would simply create a licensing fee for existing haulers.</p>
<p>That would let the city take a cut of the money Wichitans pay to their haulers. The city is discussing a 5 percent license fee — the same it charges some other utilities.</p>
<p>(Sure, raise taxes on everybody.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kansas.com/759/story/874796.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kansas.com/759/story/874796.html</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Barnie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615200</link>
		<dc:creator>Barnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never mind, I googled it.  It makes sense to me.  

Trash collection is a service everybody uses.  It&#039;s not like somebody is going to deny a collection service, because they don&#039;t want to do business with that company, and take their trash themselves to the landfill every week or month, and pay the 22 dollars it costs to drop a load off at the dump.  

Is one Trash Collection Company better than another?  It&#039;s pretty simple really, you leave out your trash by the curb on the said so day, and they come and take it away.  

It&#039;s not like these jobs would be run by the government.  The City would just assign trash companies to certain neighbor hoods.  It would probably be nicer, if we had just one trash company enter our neighborhood once a week, and get all the trash collecting done at all once.  Instead of having 4 or 5 different companies entering our neighborhood all days and hours of the week.  It would also make it more efficient for the trash companies, who wouldn&#039;t have to drive to houses all over the place, they would save on gas money, by knocking out a whole neighborhood at once, without having to skip over houses because those customers do business with a different collection service.  The trash collecting companies would be saving money, and so would we.  Sounds like a win win situation.  

How does this hurt us????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind, I googled it.  It makes sense to me.  </p>
<p>Trash collection is a service everybody uses.  It&#8217;s not like somebody is going to deny a collection service, because they don&#8217;t want to do business with that company, and take their trash themselves to the landfill every week or month, and pay the 22 dollars it costs to drop a load off at the dump.  </p>
<p>Is one Trash Collection Company better than another?  It&#8217;s pretty simple really, you leave out your trash by the curb on the said so day, and they come and take it away.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like these jobs would be run by the government.  The City would just assign trash companies to certain neighbor hoods.  It would probably be nicer, if we had just one trash company enter our neighborhood once a week, and get all the trash collecting done at all once.  Instead of having 4 or 5 different companies entering our neighborhood all days and hours of the week.  It would also make it more efficient for the trash companies, who wouldn&#8217;t have to drive to houses all over the place, they would save on gas money, by knocking out a whole neighborhood at once, without having to skip over houses because those customers do business with a different collection service.  The trash collecting companies would be saving money, and so would we.  Sounds like a win win situation.  </p>
<p>How does this hurt us????</p>
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		<title>By: American_Way</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615199</link>
		<dc:creator>American_Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In most cities, the city charges companies wanting to operate within their borders a franchise fee. This in the form of a renewable contract.

This provides control of services a provider offers, as well as a revenue source for the city. In some cases - the franchise fee may help off-set city related costs. For instance, utilities sometimes rip up streets, curbs, or sidewalks. Although the contract says the franchise has to repair to previous condition, many times they do not.  There is a cost to a city to provide an inspector to review the repair.

Cable TV
Utilities (electric, gas, telephone)
trash collection is just another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In most cities, the city charges companies wanting to operate within their borders a franchise fee. This in the form of a renewable contract.</p>
<p>This provides control of services a provider offers, as well as a revenue source for the city. In some cases &#8211; the franchise fee may help off-set city related costs. For instance, utilities sometimes rip up streets, curbs, or sidewalks. Although the contract says the franchise has to repair to previous condition, many times they do not.  There is a cost to a city to provide an inspector to review the repair.</p>
<p>Cable TV<br />
Utilities (electric, gas, telephone)<br />
trash collection is just another.</p>
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		<title>By: JimJohnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/07/franchise-trash-collections-dont-add-fee/#comment-615198</link>
		<dc:creator>JimJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Funny, Local Government Cuts Spending During Recession

Local Governments have to Stay Within Budget

(Pssst...A Lesson for Obama)


http://www.kansas.com/759/story/874796.html

Council debates adding fees, more cuts

Wichita City Council members inched closer to agreements Tuesday on how to squeeze spending. 

That likely means fewer police in schools full time, private companies mowing parks, fees and fines for people with monitored security alarms and about 100 jobs in City Hall axed from existence.

They&#039;re all moves aimed at heading off a deficit of up to $13 million next year and $17.5 million in 2011.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Funny, Local Government Cuts Spending During Recession</p>
<p>Local Governments have to Stay Within Budget</p>
<p>(Pssst&#8230;A Lesson for Obama)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kansas.com/759/story/874796.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kansas.com/759/story/874796.html</a></p>
<p>Council debates adding fees, more cuts</p>
<p>Wichita City Council members inched closer to agreements Tuesday on how to squeeze spending. </p>
<p>That likely means fewer police in schools full time, private companies mowing parks, fees and fines for people with monitored security alarms and about 100 jobs in City Hall axed from existence.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re all moves aimed at heading off a deficit of up to $13 million next year and $17.5 million in 2011.</b></p>
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