At least South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford doesn’t have to wonder whether anyone would miss him if he disappeared. But doesn’t his six-day AWOL episode — and the confusing revelation that he wasn’t really hiking along the Appalachian Trail, as his staff initially said, but in Argentina “to do something exotic” — damage his GOP star power and chances to be the 2012 presidential nominee? UPDATE: The governor admitted he was in Argentina having an affair. Definitely not a good career move.
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Obama flying the First Lady, the Limo, fifty secret service agents, and air force one to New York City for date night was pretty exotic.
I wonder how much the gov’s trip cost taxpayers?
If it cost tax payers anything beyond his personal time he needs to go.
Sanford’s press conference is at 1 pm.
Can’t believe he’ll say anything.
But there are so many screwy aspects if this, the most Repubic Party-controlled state in the Union, where the Governor — a bright spot always mentioned among potential GOP presidential contenders — is bathsit insane!
There are so many funny details along the time-line of this story. The Appalachian Trail, “Nude Hiking Day” (!), away from his four boys on Father’s Day (”Mom, you’re on your own explaining why I’m not here.” — Awkward!), his staff’s “We’ve talked to him…” lies, the “coastline” of Buenos Aires.
And the red meat to-the-bone issue is how did someone like this become presidential timber in the eyes of CONs?!
They’re pretty good at dodging the CON idiocy of Limbaugh with, “He’s just an entertainer.” But Sanford was one of your rising stars, the future of the Repubic Party.
And he loses a legisltative issues and flies to his South American hidey-hole, abandons his family and constituents, leave those closest to him to spin lies that he’s not coo-coo (Cocoa Puffs optional).
Glad he’s on your side, CONs.
He’s one of your sanest representatives.
I doubt it cost taxpayers anything other than for his paid vacation. Most likely a wealthy donor paid for the junket.
Another repub ‘contender’ bites the dust.
I think that teenager kicking his butt in court on the stimulus must’ve driven him over the edge. Had to go check out the Agentinian women to get his head on straight.
He’s inconsequential anywhere but his own state.
The only reason he’s on the “rising star” list is because he’s under 50.
“Mr_Kia” tries –
“He’s inconsequential anywhere but his own state.”
The most important state in Repubic Party presidential primaries — for CONs, especially — is Sanford’s.
“…inconsequential…?”
Don’t pee on me and tell me it’s raining.
I bet he got sick of his wife b!tching and went on a 3 day drinking binge with his golf buddies…..or not.
I’m saying the guy’s an idiot obviously.
The GOP can run any white man alive and win SC. So he’s easily replaced. Hopefully for its citizens with someone better.
It’s consequential Monkey, only to Gov Sanford, who has to answer for his own decisions. I wasn’t familiar with him other than to know that he told the administration to keep the stimulus money, that his state didn’t want it. Maybe he was a rising star before. Maybe now he’s not. Time will tell.
What’s funniest though in this thread so far is Monkey, of all people, calling out anyone on sanity.
“outlander” –
Some days I’m sane. Other days I’m like everyone else.
He was the leader of that whole anti-obama-stimulus faction.
I suspect he just took Father’s Day literally, and figured he deserved a ‘Father’s Week’.
Anyway, those Argenine women are HOt.
Argentine
Argentinian.
Brazillian put them to shame however!
It was an Argentinian booty call!
Hoo HOO!!
It never rains but it pours.
Sanford just admitted he was also unfaithful to his wife!!!
BlueJay sings….
Turn out the lights, the party’s over.
Bristol Palin is a spokesperson for Abstinence.
Sanford is speaking for God’s family values.
Are the CONs suicidal?
Sanford said it was a fiduciary decision!
You can’t make this stuff up!
Every godam Repubic Party stereotype in the book!
He just fessed up, been tapping some Argentian stuff.
Argentinian
Another shining example of Repub family values, Who will step forth now, for the next public laundry washing?
I’d say his star hasn’t just dipped but burned out. Go join Jindal.
He resigns as head of Republican Governors association.
Think they’ll give that to lil’ Sarah?
So when will we get to see his girl friend’s picture?
OMG it never dawned on him he was screwing his mistress on father’s day. But his four boys are a blessing from God. This guy just need to put out a handgun and blow his head off on camera! I thought an affair was suppose to be a secret thing? Jon and Kate and Sanford makes three….
Sorry boys, can’t spend Father’s day with you, got some important bus. in Argentina to take care of.
Sanford & Sons, becomes just Sanford.
Dang.
He admitted to everything except the Argentine girlfriend is a Gaucho Tranny.
He resigned from the chairman of the GOP Gov. Assn., he might as well have retired from the Governorship. But then Vitter got away with it, so maybe he will too.
GOP Sanford Mania won’t Last! You read it here first!
Oh GAWWD the relationship started with an email!!
What a magnificent detonation!
My guess is that he was busy writing; a Dear Jenny letter!
…but in Argentina “to do something exotic
More Details, More Details!
Another self-absorbed politician thinking with his little brain. R-Naturally.
Dennis
Sooo let’s recap:
Republican Governor and Presidential hopeful scurries outta the country to consumnate a cyberspace relationship in Argentina on Father’s day?
“More Details, More Details!!”
Second that!
Damn homewrecker, the Mistress is also a Married woman with children. Repubs have no shame.
He was cheating with a married woman with two kids!!
Why wreck one home when you can get two for the same price?
He needs to resign.
Guess technically his staff didn’t lie when they told the oountry ‘He went to clear his head’.
Why Mark Sanford Matters
Reihan Salam, 03.16.09, 12:00 AM EDT
Forbes.com
“Whatever else Sanford has done, he has given conservatives a rare opportunity to return to their roots and to shake off the contradictions and compromises that have built up over the past 30 years.”
Contradictions and compromises are the core of the GOP value system. Say one thing/do the other = contradictions: Break your wife’s heart/solicit gay encounters in airports = compromises.
“He needs to resign.”‘
Why? What MORE can he do to destroy himself and two families? Yeessh what is next with this guy?
I was wrong.
For EIGHT years he was cybering with a married woman.
Heh! Seize his computer! This movie needs more plot!
He’s not the first or the last politician to have an affair.
The distraction of the scandal keeps him from fulfilling his job.
What’s especially hanus in this case is he was AWOL for a number of days.
As a elected official you’re on the clock 24/7. I understand vacations and I understand date nights to New York. You’re available to do your job and make decisions if need be.
Being out of contact with your staff and unavailable in an emergency is completely inappropriate whatever the reason.
If he doesn’t step down he needs to be removed by whatever means are in place in that state.
WTF is with politicians?
(Remember Dems, you have lots of failures on your side as well.)
As an S.C. resident, I can assure you that Sanford was never a rising star. Before this happened, he could never have become the GOP presidential nominee for 2012 because his track record as governor is abysmal and would not have stood up to national scrutiny.
He’s a lousy politician incapable of budging on his wacked-out principles. This year’s highly visible stimulus fight was but the latest example of his self-defeating stubborn refusal to brook any reform idea that doesn’t emanate from his playbook, which has been incapable of attracting legislative support since he took office in 2003.
Now we learn he’s also an elected official from the Eliot Spitzer school of public affairs (pun intended): so arrogant and narcissistic that he believed he could get away with an unannounced trip to Argentina to be with his lover, while suiting his staff up (apparently) to lie about his whereabouts. Sad and pathetic.
This is another David Brock moment for CONs.
A certain number of bright, well-intentioned, legitimate conservatives get sucked into the GOP/CON toilet swirl and come clean.
All those “family values” were political points, not life matters.
“The sanctity of marriage” is a rhetorical device, not anything you’d really believe in.
As much as WE Blog CONs attempt to dismiss the fall of Mark Sanford, he was a significant player in Repubic Party structure, operation, and message.
He campaigned as Father of the Year but skipped town on Father’s Day weekend to boink his Argentinian concubine.
I’ve had the Fakes Noise Channel playing in the background for awhile and even even its pus-dripping nut-sucking wing-nut talking heads are subdued.
It’s fun to watch.
Just add him to the list of politicians having extramarital affairs or paying prostitutes:
William Jefferson Clinton
John Edwards
Barney Frank – paid for male prostitute
Gov. Eliot Spitzer, NY
Gov. James McGreevey, NJ
Gov. David A. Paterson
Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, Los Angeles Mayor,
Governor Paul Patton, KY
No wait, those are Democrats – my bad.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/6/24/746358/-Fox-News:-Sanford-a-Democrat
MH–
Did you see this yet?
Faux News is calling Sanford a “D”.
They have a long habit of this.
Any on reg’s list married men with kids bangin a married woman with kids? Repubs have just lowered the bar again, it’s even worst than the dirty diaper fetish.
I bet FOX viewers got giddy with relief when they saw the D.
I’ve had the Fakes Noise Channel playing in the background for awhile and even even its pus-dripping nut-sucking wing-nut talking heads are subdued.
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chuckle… Yup, ol’ self righteous Monkey never calls anyone names.
How long before they start saying he was really a RINO?
Will Mrs. Stanford Stand by Her Man? Which one will have to vacate the Mansion?
Bet this Leads the Natl. news, MSM loves a good love story.
Yeah, lowering the bar Phantom, let’s see:
Florida U.S. Rep. Tim Mahoney: admitted he had an affair with an aide and it is reported paid her $121,000 to keep her quiet and avoid a sexual harassment lawsuit.
Neil Goldschmidt: Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland.
Gerry Eastman Studds – U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1973 to 1997. The first openly gay member of Congress. Censured by the House of Representatives for having sexual relations with a teenage House page.
Rep. Mel Reynolds: of Illinois was convicted in 1995 of sexual assault against a 16-year-old girl- sentenced to five years in prison. President Bill Clinton pardoned him before leaving office.
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Any questions on the location of that bar?
I’m thinking that this guy could never withstand the firestorm, nor should he try. Resign and go away. Another politician tempted and not passing the test. I’m sure that he is a talent, but it will have to be somewhere other than as a public servant.
I BET you he takes the Larry Craig approach and tries to ride this out.
He was term limited to 2010. But clearly he had further political aspirations. That’s one less possible US Republican Senator or Presidential candidate we have to worry about!!
If he repents, maybe gets reborn, he might still have a shot.
Yeah, and unlike the Democrats, the GOP will call for him to resign and condemn his actions.
Meanwhile, if this were a Democrat, like Bill Clinton, who even lied about his affair under oath, the Democrats would circle the wagons and protect him.
That is the difference between the liberals and conservatives.
Yeah bailing on your friends is a real admirable quality.
pus-dripping nut-sucking- Monkeyhawk
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Fantastic LIB speak.
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BlueJay
Posted June 24, 2009 at 3:39 pm | Permalink
Yeah bailing on your friends is a real admirable quality.
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Are you ret@rded?
Jenny Sanford is pitching a book deal this minute.
BlueJay
Posted June 24, 2009 at 3:33 pm | Permalink
I BET you he takes the Larry Craig approach and tries to ride this out.
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Larry Craig the only name that came to mind?
Not:
Ted Kennedy
Fred Richmond
Barney Frank
Bill Clinton
John Edwards…
Ted Kennedy
Fred Richmond
Barney Frank
Bill Clinton
John Edwards…
Well, let’s go through the list of Republicans that have resigned from office after their infidelities were made public……….
Chenoweth………… Nope.
Burton ………….. Nope.
Hyde ……………. Nope.
Dole ……………. Nope.
Gingrich ……….. Nope.
Vitter ………….. Nope.
Sanford …………. Nope.
Livingstone ……… Yes!
Hey, what a batting average – well below the Mendoza Line.
And don’t forget…..
Ensign …………… Nope.
Ted Kennedy was in an accident. He didn’t do anything wrong.
As a liberal, I understand that people are human. Republicans have high, maybe even unreasonable expectation of people. They have to live up to that.
Everyone is forgetting John F. Kennedy.
Ted Kennedy-killer
Fred Richmond-heh heh, jeez.
Barney Frank-gay
Bill Clinton-adultery
John Edwards…adultery
He came too close to resigning during the press conference and didn’t go through with it for him to turn back now.
And don’t forget……………………
Reagan………………. nope.
Eisenhower ………….. nope.
BlueJay
Posted June 24, 2009 at 4:04 pm | Permalink
Ted Kennedy was in an accident. He didn’t do anything wrong.
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Are you ret@rded
Ted Kennedy didn’t kill anyone, idiot.
The helmet is officially transferred from Chas to BlueJay.
Sorry
Ted Kennedy didn’t kill anyone, idiot Hank.
And don’t forget……
GHWB and Jennifer……………. nope.
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BlueJay
Posted June 24, 2009 at 4:08 pm | Permalink
Ted Kennedy didn’t kill anyone, idiot.
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BleJay feels that women are not people.
Fantastic.
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BlueJay
Posted June 24, 2009 at 4:08 pm | Permalink
Ted Kennedy didn’t kill anyone, idiot.
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If you are driving drunk and someone dies, in most states its called vehicular homicide. Also, leaving the scene of an accident.
So yeah, Ted Kennedy did kill someone.
BleJay = BlueJay, obviously.
Did Laura (Tell Laura…) kill anyone?
If Ted Kennedy is a murderer, so is laura bush.
Dole had an affair? Which one Libby or Bob, or both?
Or is it Liddy?
BlueJay
Posted June 24, 2009 at 4:04 pm | Permalink
Ted Kennedy was in an accident. He didn’t do anything wrong.
As a liberal, I understand that people are human. Republicans have high, maybe even unreasonable expectation of people. They have to live up to that.
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How do your partners feel about that?
Yes people are human. It’s not unreasonable to expect or demand monogomy in an intimate relationship, especially marriage.
Some people are going to live up to it. Some aren’t. Doesn’t matter what your political affiliation is.
People in power making the decisions that affect the lives of so many people do need to be held to a higher standard. That kind of power comes with priviledge and that priviledge demands a higher level of personal accountability.
You blow it (no pun intended) it doesn’t make you any better or worse than I am. But you’re no longer fit to lead in my opinion.
Ahhh, but we stray from the subject of the falling star.
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BlueJay
Posted June 24, 2009 at 4:14 pm | Permalink
If Ted Kennedy is a murderer, so is laura bush.
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Laura Bush didn’t flee the scene of an accident and hide out for hours.
Heard some repubs were doing damage control, that Sanford ‘manned up’, of course like they pointed out it was only after the story chased him, and his cell phone pings were traced to Argentina.
Laura just played that innocent victim of strange circumstances card.
Actually, it’s up to the people of South Carolina. For me personally, I’d ask him to step down. Trust is an important issue.
Guess they can’t make him resign can they?
“Actually, it’s up to the people of South Carolina.”
Only if they decide to impeach him or can find that he used Government money for his affair and send him to jail.
Hee hee
So, when Republicans stray, they man up (or woman) up and resign for the good of the Party.
Or not.
MSNBC reports that public money was involved. That makes it a crime.
If Ted Kennedy is a murderer,-BlueJay
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Yeah, you can stop right there, Ted is a murderer.
One reporter says public money is involved.
Just think where he could’ve gone if he’d already received that disgusting ’stimulus’ money.
During the confession he should’ve clutched his chest and said ‘my heart, my heart!’
I hope he doesn’t resign, that’ll keep it in the news cycle longer.
All I can see here is a bunch of liberals wetting themselves over something they’ve already decreed as someone’s personal private life while conservatives call for his resignation.
Same old song and dance.
heh HEH
Ol’ Rush took this real hard.
“He coulda been our Jack Kennedy!”
Just read the South Carolina Impeachment statute – say something about two-thirds of the State representatives voting for impeachment for just cause of reasonable cause.
If he misled state employees or used funds or communications to deceive, mislead or otherwise cover up he could be impeached.
BlueJay
Posted June 24, 2009 at 4:34 pm | Permalink
heh HEH
Ol’ Rush took this real hard.
“He coulda been our Jack Kennedy!”
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Or more accurately, he is.
He’s not gonna resign unless they lean on him.
Maybe going AWOL would qualify.
“Ted is a murderer.”
Well, explain, ANTI.
Senator Kennedy accidentally drove off a bridge. In shock, he swam to the surface and went home, thinking that Kopeckney had also gotten out. He was obviously disoriented and confused by the crash, as would anyone.
A murder conviction requires premeditation or willful indifference – what was Ted Kennedy guilty of?
Answer…………….. neither.
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WSClark
Posted June 24, 2009 at 4:41 pm | Permalink
“Ted is a murderer.”
Well, explain, ANTI.
Senator Kennedy accidentally drove off a bridge. In shock, he swam to the surface and went home, thinking that Kopeckney had also gotten out. He was obviously disoriented and confused by the crash, as would anyone.
A murder conviction requires premeditation or willful indifference – what was Ted Kennedy guilty of?
Answer…………….. neither.
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Kennedy was drunk – that’s vehicular homicide.
Mr. KIA, name the Republicans that HAVE resigned.
Livingstone.
Next?
I’ll be waiting.
Mark Foley.
“Mark Foley.”
Who was Mark Foley married to?
Kennedy contacted several aides that night, but failed to report the incident to the authorities until the car and Kopechne’s body were discovered the next morning.
Yeah, Ted Kennedy didn’t bother to call police, he simply waited until the body and car was discovered.
uh huh…
Senator Kennedy accidentally drove off a bridge. In shock, he swam to the surface and went home, thinking that Kopeckney had also gotten out. He was obviously disoriented and confused by the crash, as would anyone.
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I suppose if you where schitt faced and forgot about the person riding next to you…like a foot away..
How about a source for your quote, Reggie? Was it FreeRepublic or Fox News?
How the Fuq do you accidentally drive off a bridge?
Wikipedia, which has its own references.
Besides Clark, everyone and their dog knew that’s exactly it went down – it was in every newspaper at the time.
But a nice try at something – not sure what though.
“I suppose if you where schitt faced and forgot about the person riding next to you…like a foot away..”
She was passed out in the back seat, not sitting next to the Senator.
She was passed out in the back seat, not sitting next to the Senator
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Well baggage is often forgotten…
“How the Fuq do you accidentally drive off a bridge?”
It was a single lane bridge without rails – kind of like a foot-bridge but not quite so safe.
WS Clark,
“In shock, he swam to the surface and went home, thinking that Kopeckney had also gotten out. He was obviously disoriented and confused by the crash, as would anyone.”
Anyone? Perhaps you would leave your wife and kids in the car to die, well, because you thought they got out.
Not me. Not anyone with an ounce of will power, thought, and common sense.
You get to the surface, swim to shore, then what? Figure your passenger(s) already made it and left you behind?
Of course not. You go back and confirm that who you were with got out.
Such assumptions are not made by “anyone”
Only an idiot would “assume” with anothers life.
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WSClark
Posted June 24, 2009 at 4:54 pm | Permalink
“How the Fuq do you accidentally drive off a bridge?”
It was a single lane bridge without rails – kind of like a foot-bridge but not quite so safe.
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And this guy you respect?
Dang.
No Turbines in my harbor Kennedy…Damn you Libs are stupid.
“Besides Clark, everyone and their dog knew that’s exactly it went down – it was in every newspaper at the time.”
Really?
So why wasn’t he convicted of murder? Because he was a Kennedy?
Nice try.
The locals would have LOVED to get a Kennedy murder convictions – but, alas, not enough evidence.
Here you go Clark, a video for you by a Boston Newspaper.
http://www.boston.com/news/specials/kennedy/chapter3/
“No Turbines in my harbor Kennedy…Damn you Libs are stupid.”
Huh?
Have no facts, ANTI, so you just go for the ad hom attacks?
Still waiting for KIA’s list of Repubs that have resigned after they were confronted with their extra-marital affairs.
Two, mutual feelings …. You have a particular grace and calm that I adore. You have a level of sophistication that so fitting with your beauty. I could digress and say that you have the ability to give magnificent gentle kisses, or that I love your tan lines or that I love the curve of your hips, the erotic beauty of you holding yourself (or two magnificent parts of yourself) in the faded glow of the night’s light – but hey, that would be going into sexual details …
Three and finally, while all the things above are all too true – at the same time we are in a hopelessly – or as you put it impossible – or how about combine and simply say hopelessly impossible situation of love. How in the world this lightening strike snuck up on us I am still not quite sure. As I have said to you before I certainly had a special feeling about you from the first time we met, but these feelings were contained and I genuinely enjoyed our special friendship and the comparing of all too many personal notes …
The Guv
“So why wasn’t he convicted of murder?”
Eh? Why, Reggie?
Back to Columbia for Tuesday and then on Wednesday, as I think I had told you, taking the family to China, Tibet, Nepal, India, Thailand and then back through Hong Kong on world wind tour. Few days home then to Bahamas for 5 days on a friend’s boat for the last break of the summer. The following weekend have been asked to spend it out in Aspen, Colorado with McCain – which has kicked up the whole VP talk all over again in the press back home
WSClark
Posted June 24, 2009 at 5:01 pm | Permalink
Still waiting for KIA’s list of Repubs that have resigned after they were confronted with their extra-marital affairs.
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You never said extra-marital affair. Sex scandals are the same thing to me. I said Mark Foley.
I’ll add Bob Packwood.
Either way, I wouldn’t vote for a representative of mine again who didn’t resign amid such allegations.
I’ll talk my talk and walk my walk.
Would you?
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WSClark
Posted June 24, 2009 at 5:03 pm | Permalink
“So why wasn’t he convicted of murder?”
Eh? Why, Reggie?
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Why not ask ‘why wasn’t he convicted of buggery?”
Because murder doesn’t apply to negligent vehicular homicide.
Defend Kennedy if you want, but it will be you that become part of the cover up not me.
WS Clark,
So tell us.
You are driving your car home one night with your wife and grand kids. It is dark. You are lost. You drive over a bridge and go off into the water.
Do you:
A. Swim to shore without trying to get your wife and grand kids, then assume they made it and left you, then leave as well?
B. Swim to shore without trying to get your wife and grand kids, realize they didn’t make it, go back and save them?
C. Immediately look around to see if your wife and grand kids made it and before swimming back to shore start looking for them?
Haw, haw, haw: another one. But you Pukes should be rethinking this family values thing. Work it so the more you score, the higher you rate with God or something like that. Surely anything is possible in a society of megachurches dedicated to affluence.
Isn’t that two potential GOP Presidential hopefuls in a month? But let’s say the country forgives Sanford, and he is elected president. Would he be asked during a rose garden press conference if he had quit fooling around?
And whether you like it or not, the man who won’t throw away everything for his Piddlydiddly is rare indeed. An opportunity declined is a terrible regret.
“Would you?”
God damn right I would. When the Morrison issue came up, I was one of the first to say “see ya!”
Damn right.
If you f*ck up, get out, now.
I said it then and I say it now.
So, when did Ensign resign?
On Sale Now… Deep Discounts!
http://www.zazzle.com/mark_sanford_president_2012_tshirt-235453805586585065
Palmetto State Powerhouse Exhibits Common Sense Lacking in D.C.
If only every state’s chief executive had South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford’s common sense…
http://www.americasright.com/2009_01_01_archive.html
WS Clark,
So, would you leave your wife and grand kids in the car to die? Because just like “anyone” else would, you assumed they got out and left you?
After repubs dragging Clinton through the muck and exploiting the affair for months with every salacious detail they could uncover, it’s hard to have any compassion for one of their own.
So Clark,
Did you watch the video?
It had witnesses to the scene, the Chief of Police and others.
Did you see the video Clark?
How come you didn’t watch the video Clark?
Do you like to remain ignorant Clark?
Watch the video Clark and get back to me.
What will your excuse be of not watching the video?
“Defend Kennedy if you want, but it will be you that become part of the cover up not me.”
I am not defending Kennedy, Regular, but he is not guilty of MURDER as the Right is so fond of saying – he is guilty of a traffic violation and he pled guilty to same.
What else do you expect the man to do?
Are you giving a pass to Joe Scarborough, who’s assistant was found dead in his Florida office?
Where is the OUTRAGE over that?
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WSClark
Posted June 24, 2009 at 5:18 pm | Permalink
“Defend Kennedy if you want, but it will be you that become part of the cover up not me.”
I am not defending Kennedy, Regular, but he is not guilty of MURDER as the Right is so fond of saying – he is guilty of a traffic violation and he pled guilty to same.
What else do you expect the man to do?
Are you giving a pass to Joe Scarborough, who’s assistant was found dead in his Florida office?
Where is the OUTRAGE over that?
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Not familiar with the Scarborough affair(pun-sort of)
Again, murder is not an applicable charge – vehicular homicide would be though.
Also, why use the diversion of Scarborough which has nothing to do with the Kennedy case? Are you really that weak in defending yourself in a discussion you have to bring up irrelevance?
MSNBC reports that the emails between the two are online.
I can’t wait to see those!
I’m still waiting to find out if WS Clark would have left his wife in the car to die, because just like anyone would, he assumed she got out and left him there.
Nathaniel?
Chapaquiddick is before you were born.
Bit of a reach.
“he (Kennedy)is guilty of a traffic violation and he pled guilty to same.”
What the Hell else would have wanted him to do, Regular?
Not that it is in any way relevant, but Kennedy was drunk on his a**, so of course he didn’t go back . . .
Whatcha gonna do cons?
Gonna try to send Sanford to jail?
I’m guessing Father’s day 2009 is not gonna be a high point for the Sanford sons.
He looked to me like a guy in the throes of stupid love. Love will do that to ya.
I think he and the wife may not reconcile.
Early link to the emails.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/6/24/746436/-Sanfords-emails-with-mistress
Wonder how they got out and so quick?
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WSClark
Posted June 24, 2009 at 5:25 pm | Permalink
“he (Kennedy)is guilty of a traffic violation and he pled guilty to same.”
What the Hell else would have wanted him to do, Regular?
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Actually, he was charged with leaving the scene of an accident.
In Massachusetts where the crime occurred, these are the consequences.
Leaving the Scene of Personal Injury Resulting in Death
Again, this crime has similar elements to the two crimes referenced above. The significant difference is that that accident her results in the death of another person and that the defendant must have left the scene in order “to avoid prosecution or evade apprehension”. This is a felony. Massachusetts district courts do not have jurisdiction over this crime.
Penalty:
Fine of $1,000 to $5,000
State prison sentence of 2 ½ to 10 years or jail for 1 to 2 ½ years There is a minimum mandatory 1 year sentence that must be served
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So how did Ted Kennedy weasel out of these consequences?
This is not just a traffic violation as you wrote, but a felony.
Why wasn’t Ted Kennedy charged with a felony?
GOOOOOOooooooey stuff!
I think he’ll leave the wife for the mistress. Reads like she’ll break home to be with him too.
Hmm..
It seems a newspaper called “The State” has had the emails since December. There’s a story there too maybe.
These two got it bad for each other. 2 spouses and a total of six kids get to pay for it.
Aint love grand?
“Why wasn’t Ted Kennedy charged with a felony?”
Ask the prosecutors – how the Hell would I know? I was about fifteen at the time.
Regular plying his tool of deflection…. playing the Contra Golden Oldies…..
“This is a felony. Massachusetts district courts do not have jurisdiction over this crime”
Massachusetts district courts don;t do felonies?
More emails…
http://www.thestate.com/sanford/story/839350.html
Sure they do, with limitations
“The District Court hears a wide range of criminal, civil, housing, juvenile, mental health, and other types of cases. District Court criminal jurisdiction extends to all felonies punishable by a sentence up to five years, and many other specific felonies with greater potential penalties; all misdemeanors; and all violations of city and town ordinances and by-laws. In felonies not within District Court final jurisdiction, the District Court conducts probable cause hearings to determine if a defendant should be bound over to the Superior Court. “
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littlejohn
Posted June 24, 2009 at 5:45 pm | Permalink
“This is a felony. Massachusetts district courts do not have jurisdiction over this crime”
Massachusetts district courts don;t do felonies?
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They probably have special traffic courts like some states.
WSClark
Posted June 24, 2009 at 5:12 pm | Permalink
“Would you?”
God damn right I would. When the Morrison issue came up, I was one of the first to say “see ya!”
Damn right.
If you f*ck up, get out, now.
I said it then and I say it now.
So, when did Ensign resign?
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Good for you!
Fact remains your party set the precedent the likes of Ensign is following.
Like you all I have is my opinion and vote.
Ah, good research littlejohn, never mind then. :)
Superior courts…
Network news was on, guess what the lead story was on all 3 stations?
WS Clark,
Still waiting to see if you would do the same thing if this were your wife in the car, well because, it is what “anyone” would have done… right?
Kennedy should have been charged with a far more serious charge than he was. THe major reason he wasn’t? He is a Kennedy. Everyone knows it. Some just won;t admit it.
But I am not sure it is relevant to the Sanford situation.
If, and admittedly it’s a big if, Palin can keep from cheating on her husband until 2012, she’ll be the repub candidate for pres. (by default).
Sanford sings “Take a Message Maria…”
Phantom
Posted June 24, 2009 at 6:40 pm | Permalink
If, and admittedly it’s a big if, Palin can keep from cheating on her husband until 2012, she’ll be the repub candidate for pres. (by default).
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Not that far fetched, lol.
Thing is, the GOP has backed itself so far and so completely into the South that they’ll have to nominate a non-Southerner to win 270 electoral votes.
And the problem with that is that the GOP has backed itself so far and so completely into the South that its Southern wingnut base won’t vote for a Northerner, not after McCain.
The way the party’s going these days — SNAFU — that pretty much leaves Palin in 2012. So far, anyway.
I guess they can try to paint the Huckleberry as a moderate in the general. Of course, that will be after Huckleberry is forced to out-looney-tune Palin for the nomination in the GOP primary, and do it in as public venues as he can possibly appear in. I’m sure that will leave a mark. Or several.
I think they’re scrood unless they figure out a way to grow the tent north.
Maybe Palin is soooo far north that it’s like you’ve gone ’round the world far enough that you’re almost back in the south?
I remember a bus tour on the big island of Hawaii and the driver pulled over and said, “We are now in the southern most tip of the United States, y’all.”
I wonder if anyone ever becomes a little “shocky” after a traumatic car crash?
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DavidB
Posted June 24, 2009 at 8:15 pm | Permalink
I wonder if anyone ever becomes a little “shocky” after a traumatic car crash?
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Or panicky when they realize they can go to jail for drunk driving and vehicular homicide.
DavidB,
Sure, I crashed my car into a brick wall lined ditch going 55mph. I was a bit disoriented at first as well.
If I had crashed a car off a bridge into water with a friend in the seat I wouldn’t have been so shocked that I assumed they got out alive and left.
Would you?
Would you have left your wife, kids, father, mother, or friend in a car trapped under water because you assumed they got out alive?
Maybe I would.
Symptoms of acute stress reaction
The symptoms show great variation but typically they include an initial state of “daze”, with some constriction of the field of consciousness and narrowing of attention, inability to comprehend stimuli, and disorientation. This state may be followed either by further withdrawal from the surrounding situation (to the extent of a dissociative stupor), or by agitation and overeactivity. Autonomic signs of panic anxiety (tachycardia, sweating, flushing) are commonly present. The symptoms usually appear within minutes of the impact of the stressful stimulus or event, and disappear within 2-3 days (often within hours). Partial or complete amnesia for the episode may be present.
“Sure, I crashed my car into a brick wall lined ditch going 55mph. I was a bit disoriented at first as well.”
Oh tell us you rescued your guns!
That was some mondo bizarro confession Sanford put on.
I think it was a very public love letter to Maria. Nothing else makes sense.
Sanford KNEW gay marriage would cause this…
Sanford’s motto: “Hey, biotch, stimulate this!”
lessee…a republican governor cheats on his wife and the libs are demanding his resignation. Did these same people scream for clinton’s resignation? Of course not…
Raptor –
Spitzer.
McGreevy.
Vitter.
Craig.
Who resigned and who’s still in office?
Resignation?
You must be kidding!
I’m waiting eagerly to see what this yo yo of yours does next!
Interesting….
His wife had asked him to leave and one can hardly blame her. Is he gonna be Governor from a Motel 6?