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Your Sunday morning cartoon –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuO5YsoLXl8
Your Sunday morning hymn —
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7wEctHyuc0
Your Sunday morning sermon –
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/31139497#31139497
On this date, Jun 7th, record setting temperatures for Wichita Kansas
High: 99 °F (1958)
Low: 46 °F (1935)
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NDakota city sees first June snowfall in 60 years…
http://www.kxmc.com/News/386720.asp
That dang global warming….it’s gone’a kill us all.
Where is cosmos when we need him?
Here’s a post from a former employee at Women’s Heal Services –
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“For some few years I volunteered as an escort at Dr. Tiller’s and several other clinics. I didn’t know the good doctor well, but met with him on several occasions and was impressed with his kindness and the care he obviously felt for the women who needed his services.
“Of course I have been heartbroken by his assassination, but I’m not so full of hate towards his killer. I’ve seen too many of his kind on the lines; in fact I remember seeing him. We knew Mr. Roeder as ‘Prom Queen’ from the flowers he usually carried there, and the screaming fits he would throw when approached by escorts. He was one of many not-too-bright mentally ill recruited by various self-appointed fundie leaders who groomed them to scream the threats they themselves were so careful not to utter aloud.
“I’m pretty sure that he has been exploited again to shoot Dr. Tiller. I don’t know who is using him this time- when I saw him, he was in Troy Newman’s stable of nuts, but the fundie leaders are an incestuous bunch who tend to swap followers as needed.
“According to papers Roeder filed today, his possessions amount to a 16yr.-old Taurus and $10, and he only works occasionally at minimum-wage jobs. Yet he managed to finance several 400-mile round trips to Wichita from the KC area in the last month to case the church and know Dr. Tiller by sight, bought a handgun, gas and meals etc. Also, he asked — begged — for bail to be set today, despite his total lack of assets. Obviously, the poor b@st2rd expects someone to post it, all of which leads me to believe that he is not the solitary nutcase the fundies claim he is.
“Somebody had to put him up to it, help him plan it and pay his expenses, and will now feed him to the sharks. Hopefully, and maybe with a bit of psych help, he will realize how he was used and name names.”
Well, I see that scooter found the need to bring me into the conversation last night on the National Parks thread. Why is little scooter so terrified of me?
Scooter whines,
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Your father says, and has no doubt taught you:
“I carry a gun in case I need to kill someone.”
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I suppose I should clarifiy my remark so that it’s not twisted into something wierd.
I carry a gun in case I need to kill someone.
That, gentle people is the only reason to ever get a Kansas CCH license and carry a hangun concealed. Now reasonable people can say they will never carry concealed and I don’t blame them. The decision to carry is not one that should be made lightly. You need to really be aware of the seriousness of walking around with the capability of using deadly force.
Concealed Carry Handgun, is just that. Concealed carry. You can’t show your handgun in public unless you can legally use it to kill someone. If you and yours are threatened with death or extreme bodily harm you are allowed now by law to defend yourself with a handgun if you have your CCH license.
So, liberals may read my statement, “I carry a gun in case I need to kill someone.” but that is the only reason to ever carry concealed. And it’s legal. 20,000 Kansans have taken the time to get their license and carry concealed. live with it liberals or get the law changed.
Little scooter continues his whine last night with,
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Your father, Hank Price, has loudly here wished for a chance to kill a Polar bear and her cubs to decorate his living room.
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This of course is just another of little scooter’s lies. I never said ‘living room’. I said family room. My wife would never allow a disgusting animal pelt in the formal living room.
“kill a Polar bear and her cubs”
The Obama administration has decided to keep a Bush-era policy on polar bears – declining to crack down on greenhouse-gas polluters on the grounds that their emissions are helping shrink the bears’ habitat on Arctic sea ice, officials announced..
Well, it’s Sunday morning, so it’s time for a little Sabbath Benediction. Now, I’m not gonna name names; in America, we’re “innocent” until proven insane (as I’m sure “the shooter” will try to claim), so – I won’t resort to name-callin’ this fine morning.
Nor will I discuss certain topics; they are wholly inappropriate for this Blog.
But I have something to say to “the shooter”. (And don’t worry, that “I’m Forrest Gump and I cain’t find my baals” persona you throw out for the media ain’t foolin’ no one…):
Gotta break this mofo up – even though I’m gettin’ sick and freaking tired of doing so.
Bomb at Haymarket Square of 1886 in Chicago which killed twelve people by liberal democrat union activists.
A bomb at the LA Times building in Los Angeles in 1910 which killed 21 workers, by liberal freedom fighters
Or how about the Wall Street bombing in 1920 that killed 38 and wounded 400? This was truly an action by a crazed democrat against the evil rich.
The terrible the “Mad Bomber” placed over 30 bombs in New York City in public places, another “lib” killing the big city growth people.
1958 October 12 bombing of the Hebrew Benevolent Congregation Temple in Atlanta, Georgia. Anti-jewish liberals were found responsible.
Or how about the democrats 16th Street Baptist Church bombing. A member of the liberal Ku Klux Klan bombed a Church in Birmingham, Alabama, killing four girls aged 11-14, in 1963.
1965: The Monumental Plot – New York Police thwarted an attempt to dynamite the Statue of Liberty, Liberty Bell, and the Washington Monument by three members of the pro-Castro Black Liberation Front, a democrat supporting organization to this day.
NAACP leader Vernon Dahme was assassinated by a firebomb, exploded by the Ku Klux Klan in 1966, a democrat party organization
1968: During a student rebellion at Columbia University, members of the Students for a Democratic Society and Student Afro-American Society held a Dean hostage, demanding an end to both military research on campus and construction of a gymnasium in nearby Harlem.
Kaczynski became an assistant professor of mathematics at the University of California, Berkeley (need I add Ted was a registered democrat?) in Fall 1967. Kaczynski, the Unibomber, sent 16 bombs to targets including universities and airlines, killing three people and injuring 23.
So let’s get right down to it, shall we?
Committing bestial, criminal acts (especially when they end someone’s life) is a horrible, cruel thing. Its wretchedness extends beyond immediacy. Its evil hand transcends time and space. And it can wreak havoc.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – just in case someone accuses me of narcissism: In this context, I am flotsam compared to the Tiller family’s anguish. But that doesn’t mean I’m nothing at all.
Dealing with personal foibles, personal flaws, personal deficits and outright sins is never fun. Dealing with ‘em in the midst of overweening tragedy is something else again.
Ya did a really, REALLY bad thing here, sir.
I mean, s–t: Eleven days ago my only worries were dragging myself to the E.R. and wondering how I would be able to down several opiate painkillers without feeling like someone’s fist was rammed up my bu’!.
I was – then – euphoric at the olive branch I’d extended to my big brother. Blissfully ignorant of suspected catastrophic events, the wages of 15-year estrangement, and, oh – that nifty thing called “personal foibles.”
And, oh – let’s not forget this, either: Dr. Tiller forgave me so long ago. My repentance was real; my anguish was deep and abiding. He exercised Christian mercy – so I was able to forgive myself.
Until last Sunday. ‘Cause when that person is gunned down senselessly, it sort of complicates things. Until then, I had realized a measure of peace.
You took that from me, m—erf—er. And I’m real unhappy about it.
Personal (i.e., my own) deficits………
I felt it at last Sunday’s vigil. I felt it while staggering out of the church yesterday.
I mean – I’m fifty years old here: It ain’t like I’ve got my whole life ahead of me. (C’mon – we both graduated in 1976 – you ought to be able to relate when you’re not busy fantasizing about Shelley Shannon’s knickers….)
It’s a very bad thang you did here. It’s just a mess. You’ve crapped your pants and hung ‘em over the city of Wichita for all to see.
I know you don’t care about me – or any single person who isn’t elevating you to sainthood – but a whole lotta things have struck at once during these last 11 days. And in my case, it’s proved to be fairly unfortunate.
P-Mom – Thank you for your service and dedication yesterday. I was still emotionally riven after that beautiful, evocative (instructive?) service, so I didn’t get a chance to say “hello” – even if I knew your identity. But thank you again.
Jeanne Tiller: I have never seen such abundant courage demonstrated in one human being. I’m still in awe. I shall always be in awe. Please carry the memory of our thunderous applause and heartfelt affirmation with you all the days of your life. You deserve it as no one else does.
And as for “the shooter”: Don’t worry about, little fellow. You won’t be alone. Like Charlie Manson said, there’s plenty of sex in prison. It may not be what you want – but then, people in Hades want ice water, too……….
Love and kisses,
FilmFan
ALERT TO SOCIALISTS!
-Here is THE CASE, where the COURTS could block your Nationalization of Private Industry and the STEALING OF PRIVATE PROPERTY by Government!
TWO Issues Being Addressed:
1. The Government has no right to take your private property without due process and with out JUST compensation.
2. The Treasury Department is breaking the law by spending Tarp money in a manner NOT APPROVED by Congress.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525319,00.html
Supreme Court Asked to Block Chrysler Sale to Fiat
Sunday, June 07, 2009
Associated Press
WASHINGTON — Opponents of Chrysler’s sale to Fiat are asking the Supreme Court to block the deal.
Three Indiana state pension and construction funds filed emergency papers at the high court early Sunday to put the sale on hold so they can pursue an appeal.
The federal appeals court in New York approved the sale Friday, but gave objectors until Monday afternoon to try to get the Supreme Court to intervene. Chrysler wants to sell the bulk of its assets to a group led by Italy’s Fiat as part of its plan to emerge from bankruptcy protection.
The emergency request goes first to Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who handles such matters from New York. She can act on her own or refer it to the entire court.
The Indiana State Police Pension Fund, the Indiana Teacher’s Retirement Fund and the state’s Major Moves Construction Fund claim the deal unfairly favors the interests of the company’s unsecured stakeholders ahead of those of secured debtholders such as themselves.
The funds also challenged the constitutionality of the Treasury Department’s use of Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP, funds to supply Chrysler’s bankruptcy protection financing. They say the Treasury did so without congressional authority.
Why the endless list of lies? I fact-checked one. and won;t waste my time on more..
“1958 October 12 bombing of the Hebrew Benevolent Congregation Temple in Atlanta, Georgia. Anti-jewish liberals were found responsible.” – lying post by American Way
“At 3:45 a.m., shortly after the bombing, UPI staff received a call from “General Gordon of the Confederate Underground” who said “We bombed a temple in Atlanta. This is the last empty building in Atlanta we will bomb. All nightclubs refusing to fire their Negro employees will also be blown up. We are going to blow up all Communist organizations. Negroes and Jews are hereby declared aliens.”
“Rabbi Jacob Rothchild, the temple’s rabbi, was an outspoken advocate of civil rights and integration, and friend of Martin Luther King Jr. The bombing ripped at the delicate social fabric of Atlanta, a city that liked to think of itself a “City too Busy to Hate.”
Five men associated with white separatist groups such as the National States’ Rights Party were tried and acquitted.” http://www.viswiki.com/en/Bombing_of_the_Hebrew_Benevolent_Congregation_Temple
“They say the Treasury did so without congressional authority.”
They do not need congressional authority. This is the new USSA. They only need the authority of the
One.
THE MILITIA TAKES ACTION!!!!!
Here is one reason for the 2nd Amendment folks!
For those who like to make fun of those who have carry permits and question the need for anyone to carry a gun – Read This:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525320,00.html
Pakistan Villagers Attack Taliban Strongholds After Mosque Attack
Sunday, June 07, 2009
Print ShareThisISLAMABAD — Hundreds of Pakistanis banded together to attack Taliban strongholds in a troubled northwest region to avenge a deadly homicide bombing at a local mosque, a top government official said Sunday.
The incident underscored a swing in the national mood toward a more anti-Taliban stance — a shift coupled with a recent surge in homicide attacks as the military wages an offensive against the Taliban in the Swat Valley.
Some 400 villagers from Upper Dir district’s Haya Gai area, where a homicide bomber killed 33 worshippers at a mosque on Friday, formed a militia and attacked five villages in the neighboring Dhok Darra area, said Atif-ur-Rehman, the district coordination officer.
The citizens’ militia has occupied three of the villages and is trying to push the Taliban out of the other two. Some 20 houses suspected of harboring Taliban were destroyed, he said. At least four militants were killed, he said.
The government has in the past encouraged local citizens to set up militias, known as lashkars, to oust Taliban fighters.
“It is something very positive that tribesmen are standing against the militants. It will discourage the miscreants,” Rehman said.
DavidB obviously doesn’t know the history of southern democrats. They were opposed to desegregation and the American civil rights movement.
American_Way
Posted June 7, 2009 at 10:59 am | Permalink
“They say the Treasury did so without congressional authority.”
They do not need congressional authority. This is the new USSA. They only need the authority of the
One.
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This Case may decide how much POWER the Government can TAKE, and how much Freedom Government can deny to The People.
Does the US Constitution mean anything? We might just find out with this case.
And if the US Constitution does NOT mean anything, then what? If there is no rule of law, what do we have folks?
“Hundreds of Pakistanis banded together to attack Taliban strongholds in a troubled northwest region to avenge a deadly homicide bombing at a local mosque, a top government official said Sunday.”
Not sure this was a good move. Obama has apologized to the terrorists, plans to negotiate a settlement with the “moderate” terrorists, and believes we will have peace in our time.
The Taliban is going to lay down their weapons any day now.
And what exactly is a “moderate” terrorist?
Is that determined by body count?
Maybe I am ignorant, but I don’t pull a list off somebody’s website and amend it with lying slanders and cheap partisan-inspired insanities.
http://www.mickmaurer.com/TerroristMentalityPart5.html
Lying about the opposition is a tactic of terrorists organizations… you walk down a dangerous path, AmWay…
“And if the US Constitution does NOT mean anything, then what? If there is no rule of law, what do we have folks?”
I agree with you JJ, but the Constitution was only important when democrats thought Bush was breaking it. Obama? Not so much.
“you walk down a dangerous path”
Please. So dramatic?
Gosh I hate to say “I told you so”, but here it is and I cannot deny it. I told you so:
“Wednesday, May 27, 2009
Obama’s approval rating Drops to a new low; only 25% agree with him on Gitmo
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 31% of the nation’s voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty percent (30%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of +1. That’s the lowest positive rating yet received by the new President (Obama’s rating was the past few month at a steady 35%).
Following the President’s speech on the Guantanamo prison camp, just 38% agree with the President’s decision. Forty-nine percent (49%) now disagree. Opinion was evenly divided in January. By a two-to-one margin, voters oppose having any of the suspected terrorists brought to prisons in the United States. Only 25% share the President’s belief that the Guantanamo camp weakened the nation’s security. “
I think someone who puts all the effort of sifting through an objective, informative website, cutting and pasting and then adding deliberate lies – bearing false witness, if you will – is walking a dangerous path when a disregard for truth becomes their intellectual underpinning.
You are free to lie, but for the life of me I can’t understand why you love it so. if you had faith in your beliefs… lying would be unnecessary…
I didn’t lie David. Demcorats have throughout American history killed people to promote their ends.
Come to think about it, why has the media and the weblog gone SILENT on GITMO?
Where is the thread: Only 25% share the President’s belief that the Guantanamo camp weakened the nation’s security.”
Where is it on the news? The newspapers?
And Pelosio and her lies?
Crickets chirping.
“is walking a dangerous path when a disregard for truth becomes their intellectual underpinning”
You mean like associating all PRO LIFERS with the murder of Tiller? Or maybe the latest extension of that on the Tiller Thread – all republicans?
Wow!
Why is it Obama wants to close Gitmo?
“You are free to lie, but for the life of me I can’t understand why you love it so. if you had faith in your beliefs… lying would be unnecessary…” DavidB
As Pedant put so well yesterday and I know wouldn’t mind including above American_Way posts in the sentiment expressed:
“I am perfectly content to allow the fair minded reader to draw his or her own conclusions about JimJohnson’s motives here.”
This is Hillary’s TOUGH Approach with North Korea! CALL THEM NAMES! (Just what the LIBS do on the WE Blog!)
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/08/world/asia/08korea.html?ref=asia
Clinton Says North Korea May Go Back Onto Terrorist List
The United States is looking at restoring North Korea to the list of state sponsors of terrorism, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said on Sunday.
“We’re going to look at it,” Ms. Clinton said on ABC’s “This Week with George Stephanopoulos.” “There’s a process for it. Obviously, we would want to see recent evidence of their support for international terrorism.”
“Obviously, we would want to see recent evidence of their support for international terrorism.”
WTF?
Hillary WANTS to see North Korea support terrorism?
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lindainks55
Posted June 7, 2009 at 11:56 am | Permalink
“You are free to lie, but for the life of me I can’t understand why you love it so. if you had faith in your beliefs… lying would be unnecessary…” DavidB
As Pedant put so well yesterday and I know wouldn’t mind including above American_Way posts in the sentiment expressed:
“I am perfectly content to allow the fair minded reader to draw his or her own conclusions about JimJohnson’s motives here.”
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I’m perfectly content to allow the fair minded reader to draw his or her own conclusions about why Pedant, who lives in Virginia posts here. He doesn’t live here anymore and probably come here to live.
What’s Pedant’s motive?
Any less valid that Jim Johnson’s, the same?
*probably won’t come here to live.
I just want to thank Wichita and the Wichita law enforcement officers for two things…for one, for making us safe during yesterday’s funeral. The second, along with WSU for the Special Olympics Tournament. You men and women are fabulous for all your hard work helping those with disabilities.
lindainks55
Posted June 7, 2009 at 11:56 am | Permalink
As Pedant put so well yesterday and I know wouldn’t mind including above American_Way posts in the sentiment expressed:
“I am perfectly content to allow the fair minded reader to draw his or her own conclusions about JimJohnson’s motives here.”
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What choice did he have?
Can someone force someone to NOT draw their own conclusions?
(Oh, and btw, the ‘conclusions’ Pendant was drawing on my ‘motives’ were completely false. But then, if you have any education at all, determining someone’s motives, especially through an anonymous blog, is almost impossible to do.
But do carry-on Linda and Pendant, with your self-serving conjectures and personal attacks. Your intelligence level shines thru when you do that.)
DavidB – although Dems have done an amazing job of scrubbing history to fit their needs, (ie, fascism is a right-wing phenomenon, all flamethrowers are right-wing, right-wing fanatics define all GOP’ers while left-wing fanatics (socialists, fascists, communists, corporatists, collectivists, “the Borg”, Weather Underground, Black Panthers, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,) don’t count). Amway speaks the truth, when he says that Dems have killed people to promote their ends. Lee Harvey Oswald was a Communist for Christ’s sake, and you guys STILL tried to claim he was just a patsy for the right-wing hatemongers in TX. You’ve got a litany of dictators that the left heralded as heros in the early 20th century (Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin, Guevera, Castro, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Mao…all leftists). The 60’s were just regurgitated fascism from the student radicals who wanted to use terrorism (little killing), but severe violence for sure (by the way, Bernadine Dorn, Ayer’s wife LOVED Charles Manson for his little murder spree), but if you read what’s taught in school about that timeframe now, you’d think the “New Left” were just a bunch of peaceful hippies who just wanted to world to hug and sing Kum Ba Yah. Presidents Wilson & FDR had their own little private brownshirt groups to go out and shut up opposition to the “Blue Eagle” (for which the Philadelphia Eagles are named after) and put hundreds of thousands in jail for not singing from their hymnal. You guys worship those guys, and act like Bush is the anti-Christ for just doing what they did at an amateurish level. You guys now are just the useful idiots who continue to spew the talking points now, while ignoring anything remotely close to truth in history. The GOP wears it’s failures, warts and all…the left’s failures and carbuncles are “America’s fault”.
“I am perfectly content to allow the fair minded reader to draw his or her own conclusions”
So by saying this, you are saying you are going to allow something to happen EVEN THOUGH you have No Control to stop it from happening!
But it does make you sound powerful and all-knowing to say some carp like this, doesn’t it?
You might as well say you are going to allow the sun to set this evening.
Socialists are among the Democrats? You do realize that Democrat and Socialist aren’t the same right?
Thanks for providing my daily dose of intellectual toxins… carry on, until the “murderous socialist demcorats” come for you…
“Palin is Pallin’ Around With Plagiarists?
Todd Palin, that is. That’s because the plagiarist is none other than the Governor, herself.
Geoffrey Dunn over at Huffington Post read my transcript of Palin’s 17 minute introduction of Michael Reagan, and a little bell went off in his head. He had a strange feeling he’d heard all this somewhere before…..(except in English)…”
continue reading at:
http://www.themudflats.net/2009/06/06/palin-is-pallin-around-with-plaigiarists/
Bill Ayers is on CSPAN book TV, he was asked why he had turned to using violent actions in the name of his cause? In his explanation there were several points that the extreme of the Pro-life movement would use.
Facing what they saw as a just and moral cause failing to achieve the goal and even when the time came that it looked to be ending. Then suddenly the cause was reversed and there seemed only one way to bring an end. They turned to violence since the legal means had no effect.
This is not a justification for either using bombs or a handgun. You end up not just fighting the other side but also those who agree with the cause.
Maybe, just MAYBE, some of that Tarp spending could be stopped or even reversed by the Courts.
TWO Issues Being Addressed:
1. The Government has no right to take your private property without due process and with out JUST compensation.
2. The Treasury Department is breaking the law by spending Tarp money in a manner NOT APPROVED by Congress.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525319,00.html
Supreme Court Asked to Block Chrysler Sale to Fiat
Supreme Court has been “asked” — But the Supre3me Court has not “Answered” LOL
Ya, that’s funny Chas.
ha
ha
ha
Church over already?
Yeah, P-Ma, I “understand they’re not the same”. Do YOU understand that “Liberals” damn sure weren’t socialist OR democrat either, until you hijacked that label, because it was popular? I consider myself a “Classic Liberal”, which of course if the antithesis of the “Modern Progressive”..yet another name you guys had to come up with once you tainted liberal.
Writerdog – I’m not condoning violence in any sense either. BOTH sides of the aisle have warts. Just sick and tired of the ridiculous rhetoric and complete lack of historical context when it comes to trying to make things cool today, that were “cool” at other times in history….until they turned very ugly…then all of the sudden the circular thinking of a lot of liberals kicked in, ie, (rightwing = bad, therefore anything bad = rightwing). Hitler is the classic example! Fascism is another. Socialism/Communism/Fascism/statism/corporatism/Americanism/etc are all born from the same fruit. They just choose to ignore the parts where the left were (some still are) BIG fans of Mussolini/Stalin (or “Uncle Joe” as FDR called him)/Hitler/Mao/Guevera (they STILL sell “Che” memorabilia that’s popular with libs)/Castro/etc. Same goes for attacks on Christianity. Those same players I just listed were all aetheist, or at least had a major hatred of Christianity, yet many on the left (some on this blog) sill try to promote that Hitler was a Catholic and extreme Rightie…of course the facts prove that’s insanely silly…but hey, a “vital lie” works better than most truths..huh radicals? Just sick of the spin game, it’s tired.
You have any investments Chas?
Any money in the bank at all?
You think it would ok for the Government to take some of that from you?
Say some bonds you might have with Chrysler, would it be ok if the Government took those and paid you nothing, or maybe 2 cents on the dollar?
lindainks55
Posted June 7, 2009 at 12:21 pm | Permalink
“Palin is Pallin’ Around With Plagiarists?
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I read it, it’s not plagiarism. Might be paraphrasing…
If you listen to news casters, especially Lib new casters, it sounds like a broken record as they launch the same platitudes from station to station in remarkably similar words.
O’Bama, the King of Platitudes, has canned phrases that he repeats over and over every time he speaks.
O’Bama is in love with there word “significant and significantly.” Doesn’t mean he patented the word or if someone else uses them, it isn’t plagiarism.
DFB you lie like a rug! Hitler was a Christian! He used religion as one of the ways he controlled. You claim we try to distance ourselves ha!
YOU people tried demonizing the liberal/social progressive terms. Conservatives have always been against evolving as a group. Liberals throughout history have moved us ahead as a nation and as a world. It isn’t my fault you’re in the wrong group.
Hmmm, ‘You People’ is used so much by duh Libs, I think we need a new term for them.
Let’s call them ‘Ewe People’ as in sheep.
Isn’t “You People” a racist thing to say?
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JimJohnson
Posted June 7, 2009 at 12:57 pm | Permalink
Isn’t “You People” a racist thing to say?
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Used to be, back in the day.
‘you people’ and ‘those people’
So Pmom is a racist!
DFB I agree there is too much discord in all this and often too much of “well Johnny did it too!”
excuses. my post was not really commenting on the topic of the he said she said of liberals and Conservatives. It was more an explanation of the mindset and what drives those who take violent actions in their cause. Ayers also said of the other anti-war protesters that they were lacking the will to do what was needed to be done. I would guess the extreme of the pro-life also feel a disjointing from the sane Pro-lifers.
Saying that the extreme does not take any voices of reason in the movement seriously. Seeing them as weak and not having a true belief in the pro-life movement.
Rehashing pass actions really does not change or justify anything. Particularly if nothing has been learned from them. Socialism inspiring Liberals, Democrats and or progressives? The largest recent impact and influences of Socialism was by the Neo-Conservatives in the Bush administration. By their own admission the founders of the Neo-Conservative movement are Socialists, Irving Kristol started out a Communist like his parents then changed to Socialism. He and other Socialists not feeling welcome in the Democratic party changed to the Republican party. Again by their own admissions!
“I’m perfectly content to allow the fair minded reader to draw his or her own conclusions about why Pedant, who lives in Virginia posts here. He doesn’t live here anymore and probably come here to live.” — Regular
Tara, Rage, Pedant, Sol, all others I’ve forgotten or never knew live outside Kansas:
Thanks for your perspectives! I know three of you grew up here, left friends and family when you moved. I’m glad you have this link to a place that was once (and who knows could be again in the future!) HOME. We gain since your new lives and locations add perspective different than what we Kansans may see. I appreciate diversity and you add it!
You posting could be compared to the posters who use experiences gained from other places they traveled and worked to add to the discussion. Ya know, like Regular often does.
Maybe the next time Regular uses a perspective from a different location to state his opinion, we will all be content to allow fair minded readers to decide whether that would be the pot calling the kettle black, judgmental or hypocrisy?
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lindainks55
Posted June 7, 2009 at 1:14 pm | Permalink
“I’m perfectly content to allow the fair minded reader to draw his or her own conclusions about why Pedant, who lives in Virginia posts here. He doesn’t live here anymore and probably come here to live.” — Regular
Tara, Rage, Pedant, Sol, all others I’ve forgotten or never knew live outside Kansas:
Thanks for your perspectives! I know three of you grew up here, left friends and family when you moved. I’m glad you have this link to a place that was once (and who knows could be again in the future!) HOME. We gain since your new lives and locations add perspective different than what we Kansans may see. I appreciate diversity and you add it!
You posting could be compared to the posters who use experiences gained from other places they traveled and worked to add to the discussion. Ya know, like Regular often does.
Maybe the next time Regular uses a perspective from a different location to state his opinion, we will all be content to allow fair minded readers to decide whether that would be the pot calling the kettle black, judgmental or hypocrisy?
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I seriously doubt Pedant posts on the WE Blog because his friends and family live here.
The difference is, I live in Wichita. It’s a Wichita blog. I pay taxes here. I spend money here. This is my community.
Pedant can’t say the same thing.
If I left Wichita, I would no longer post on the WE Blog. What would be the point?
Lets not forget Raptor whom has left the warm and fussy world of OZ. He too is welcome here!
Yeah idiot, I called cons ‘you people’ and suddenly I’m a racist. And you claim you’re not a nutjob.
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writerdog
Posted June 7, 2009 at 1:20 pm | Permalink
Lets not forget Raptor whom has left the warm and fussy world of OZ. He too is welcome here!
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Raptor earned his stripes by riding his ‘hog’ in many funerals against the perverts at Westboro.
Hypocrisy is the act of being less critical of oneself than of others. Psychologically, hypocrisy can be an unconscious act of self-deception.
Everybody is welcome here — it is a PUBLIC blog.
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lindainks55
Posted June 7, 2009 at 1:24 pm | Permalink
Hypocrisy is the act of being less critical of oneself than of others. Psychologically, hypocrisy can be an unconscious act of self-deception.
Everybody is welcome here — it is a PUBLIC blog.
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So you’re saying if several dozen ‘Freeman’ started posting here, that would be okay with you.
I read here about as long as I can stand it (which is much shorter nowadays as it once was) and then I leave.
I have no control over who posts here, I have total control over what I read.
No Regular Freeman would not be welcome…. We don’t need no sissies here!
Or stinking badges or those left handed Mongolian sheep herders!
(FYI I am joking)
BTW Hank which hand are you? If you happen to be left handed I was not reffering to you.
Ok, Writerdog…I don’t think you really want to go down the path of which party has the most “by their own admission” connections to Socialism/Communism/Fascism. But if you’d like I can start going down the list for you…Margaret Sanger, founder of PP (also a eugenicist), too many to name from Columbia (and it’s Casa Italiana program dedicated to Italian Fascism) but here’s a couple – Mark Rudd (whattaya know, Weather Underground guy too!), Nicholas Murry Butler, etc or maybe we could go to the NYT, always a bastion of rightwing ideologues…starting with Karl Marx, Anne O’Hare McCormick, hell Pinch Sr was a flaming Socialist so what a surprise he hired like-minded “journalists”…or maybe the founder of the ACLU Baxter another card carrying Socialist. But you tried, like Dems always do, to paint “the largest influence on Socialism” on the right again…you guys just don’t give up. You found out “socialist” is still a dirty word here, so now you guys have moved back to “progressive” to “rebrand” the “movement”. I’ve got a million more examples if you need them…since you’re big example is taking someone BORN into a communist family, who converted to socialism as a lesser evil, then as you say “founded” the neo-conservatives…hmmm, let’s see, who named them “neo” again…oh that’s right…THE LEFT, because it helped them market them as “neo-nazi’s”….
George Carlin, rest his soul had it right….fascism, if it comes to America will not be in brown shirts & jack-boots. It will be in Nike sneakers and smiley t-shirts.
“When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”
[Sinclair Lewis]
Carlin wasnt always right, but he was “close”.
http://thinkexist.com/quotation/when-facism-comes-to-america-it-will-be-wrapped/411192.html
Oh yea, approx. 1935 C.E.
“So you’re saying if several dozen ‘Freeman’ started posting here, that would be okay with you.” [Regular]
Ahem… I do believe they already are… LOL Thanks for playing; do try again!!
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writerdog
Posted June 7, 2009 at 1:44 pm | Permalink
BTW Hank which hand are you? If you happen to be left handed I was not reffering to you.
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You have to be pretty much ambidextrous when it comes to sheep herding. Dogs are very sensitive to body language and the hand you hold your crook (stock stick in my case) in is very important.
Also the position of the crook in your hand means different things to the dog. When your dog is on a fetch you hold the crook straight up and down. You can signal small flanks by meely shfting hands with your crook.
‘Come bye’ hold the crook in your right hand. ‘Away to me’ hold the crook in your left hand.
PS Mongolians are goat herds.
Dangit! Had all kinds of quotes hacked out for Chas and managed to delete it before it posted. If you want to stick in the 30’s for your lame response…I can type all day, but since you like writers, I’ll just retype this one from H.G. Wells in 1932:
“In terms of Liberal Fascism, I have never been able to escape altogether from its relentless logic. We have seen the Fascisti in Italy and a number of clumsy imitations elsewhere, and we have seen the Russian Communist Party coming into existence to reinforce the idea. I am asking for a Liberal Fascisti, for enlightened Nazis!”
I don’t know…think Wells was a little more “direct”
But just for kicks, here’s a quote from Harold Ickes, FDR’s Sec of the Interior”
“What we were doing in this country were some of the things that were being done in Russia and even some of the things that were being done under Hitler in Germany. But we were doing them in an orderly way.” – in regards to his role as a key architect of “The New Deal”.
Oh, man! I am so let down. The socialists never gave me a card to carry… All I have is my AARP… darned Socialism/Communism/Fascism/statism/corporatism/Americanism/etc guys screwed me royally!!!
I am kind of curious about your formal education level… care to share?
I’m just curious about where you gained your extraordinary grasp of history….
Blame this on Obama for going to the ME and stirring things up!
“ISLAMABAD (Reuters) – Villagers in northwest Pakistan have attacked Taliban militants killing seven of them in revenge for a bomb attack on a mosque that killed at least 40 people, a top government official and residents said on Sunday.
It was the latest in a series of instances of people turning their guns on the Taliban in recent weeks and trying to force them out of their areas and will encourage the Pakistani government which needs public support to defeat the militants.
I am not quite sure why the necessary fixing of the broken healthcare industry, the failed automobile industry, the corrupted banking industry, and updating a last century energy system is making the fearful run to their guns and their bunkers and bringing out the assassins…
DavidB – I read, you might try it sometime.
uh…writer? where did you get that idea? I live in Wichita, right here in Kansas. Seems that someone’s attempt at digging for private info was off base this time.
“Raptor” quakes –
“Seems that someone’s attempt at digging for private info was off base this time.”
Paranoia strikes deep.
your accusations are as far off base as the erroneous comment that I had left. Both are wrong.
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Regular
Posted June 7, 2009 at 12:59 pm | Permalink
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JimJohnson
Posted June 7, 2009 at 12:57 pm | Permalink
Isn’t “You People” a racist thing to say?
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Used to be, back in the day.
‘you people’ and ‘those people’
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Don’t forget ‘that one.’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNzA9LfMlmU
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DavidB,
Wasn’t Lyndon Baines Johnson a southern Democrat?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_B._Johnson#Civil_rights
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From the NY Times –
Pro-American Alliance Wins Lebanon Vote
By MICHAEL SLACKMAN 1 minute ago
An American-backed alliance appeared to retain control of the Lebanese parliament in an election described as a showdown between Iranian and American influence.
Monkeyhawk
Posted June 7, 2009 at 5:29 pm | Permalink
Paranoia strikes deep.
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I also hear it’s the destroyer.
You People have had all weekend and haven’t solved the world’s problems?
Fuq…..
To the Boat Cave…..
(motorboat noise)
http://www.nationalcenter.org/NVDavisBradley1299.html
LBJ may have pushed for the Civil Rights Act, but democrats only came to the table to vote after kicking and screaming AGAINST passage of the Act.
This was the longest filibuster in history, doubling the previous record.
Dixiecrats Over several months in 1964, Southern Democrat Senators, led by Georgia Senator Richard B. Russell led a filibuster against the bill
Contrary to what is often assumed today, a higher proportion of Republicans than of Democrats supported the bill. Its leading advocates included not only Democrats like Sen. Hubert Humphrey of Minnesota and Rep. Emanuel Celler of New York but also Republicans like Sen. Jacob Javits of New York and Rep. William McCulloch of Ohio.
The Congressional Quarterly of June 26, 1964 (p. 1323) recorded that, in the Senate, only 69% of Democrats (46 for, 21 against) voted for the Civil Rights Act as compared to 82% of Republicans (27 for, 6 against). All southern Democratic senators voted against the Act. This includes the current senator from West Virginia and former KKK member Robert C. Bryd and former Tennessee senator Al Gore, Sr. (the father of Bradley’s Democratic opponent). Surely young Bradley must have flunked his internship because ostensibly he did not learn that the Act’s primary opposition came from the southern Democrats’ 74-day filibuster. In addition, he did not know that 21 is over three times as much as six, otherwise he would have become – according to the logic of his statement – a Republican.
In the House of Representatives, 61% of Democrats (152 for, 96 against) voted for the Civil Rights Act; 92 of the 103 southern Democrats voted against it. Among Republicans, 80% (138 for, 34 against) voted for it.
Boy you libs really can turn things around.
July 8, 1947
Many of you will recall that on July 8, 1947, almost exactly 60 years ago, witnesses claim that an unidentified flying object (UFO) with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep and cattle ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico. This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered up by the U.S. Air Force and other federal Agencies and organizations. However, what you may NOT know is that in the month of March 1948, nine months after that historic day, the following people were born:
Albert A. Gore, Jr.
Hillary Rodham
John F. Kerry
William J. Clinton
Howard Dean
Nancy Pelosi
Dianne Feinstein
Charles E. Schumer
Barbara Boxer
See what happens when aliens breed with sheep?
I certainly hope this bit of information clears up a lot of things for you.
It did for me.
Hey All, it’s always nice to meet new people..Just wanted to introduce my self as new comer into the forum and for you all please feel free to ad me to your buddy list