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Michael Jackson is still dead.
He just followed his nose.
I always considered Jackson’s work is the sort of stuff you like, if you like that sort of stuff.
I rillly rilly liked MoTown. And I was blown away at that little kid; the new Stevie Wonder.
I remember the night he debuted the moon-walk on live TV.
“He’s walking forward but going backward!”
As reports trickle out to reveal or remind, there were definitely two Michael Jacksons: the phenomenal performer and some other guy.
It takes a few mental gymnastics, I admit, but I can’t shake the feeling entirely that Michael was not a pedophile. At least in the traditional sense. He was robbed of a childhood and always seemed to seek that summer before guys discovered girls. (See the movie “Stand By Me” to remember that summer.)
There were four other guys that summer who I joined to swim in the creek (a big discussing topic that night was whether it was pronounced “creek” or “crick.” It was important.) And we shared a cigarette some guy stole from his old man. And we strung a trot line and caught one big ol’ catfish and a snapping turtle.
I sorta believed MJ when he said “sleeping with boys isn’t the same as SLEEPING WITH boys.” (And frankly, I still don’t understand that euphemism for doing the dirty.
“President Clinton, did you sleep with that woman?”
“Not a wink!”)
But I digress…
Like the kid who can paint the edges of the paint with a 97-mph fastball, or the kid who wills himself into being the meanest boxer in the world, or the kid who gets millions and millions of dollars because he can slam-dunk at age 13… some people are lottery winners in a game of chance: The Game of Life.
George WMD Bush won that lottery. I’m not sure he handled it any better than MJ.
Most professional athletes won that lottery.
How they handle it is part of the human drama, perhaps.
The way pop music operates, I’m not sure MJ actually wrote the songs he’s credited with. I suspect he bought at least some of the songs and the write/composer credits.
For example, I think “Human Nature” is one important pop song. But no one covers it because MJ’s performance is the Diamond Standard. Whether he wrote it, or Quincy fixed it, or some guy-with-a-keyboard’s song… it’s MJ’s song now. Part of his legacy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjywI7nc_PQ
It’s why nobody sings “Mr. Bojangles” anymore since Sammy did it.
That’s a pop star for ya man.
Very controversial, is this the real deal?
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Ark hunters and Bible enthusiasts are buzzing about a report that the Ark of the Covenant, the ancient container that holds the Ten Commandments, is expected to be unveiled in Rome today.
As WND reported, the patriarch of the Orthodox Church of Ethiopia says he will announce to the world the unveiling of the Ark, which he says has been hidden away in a church in his country for millennia, according to the Italian news agency Adnkronos.
Abuna Pauolos, in Italy for a meeting with Pope Benedict XVI this week, told the news agency, “Soon the world will be able to admire the Ark of the Covenant described in the Bible as the container of the tablets of the law that God delivered to Moses and the center of searches and studies for centuries.”
According to the Italian news agency, the announcement is expected to be made at 2 p.m. Italian time (8 a.m. Eastern) from the Hotel Aldrovandi in Rome. Pauolos will reportedly be accompanied by Prince Aklile Berhan Makonnen Haile Sellassie and Duke Amedeo D’Acosta.
“The Ark of the Covenant is in Ethiopia for many centuries,” said Pauolos. “As a patriarch I have seen it with my own eyes and only few highly qualified persons could do the same, until now.”
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By Chelsea Schilling
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
Auction it at southbys.
Cue the wax Nazis.
beeb,
“Auction it at southbys.”
And use the proceeds to recompense and provide psychiatric treatment for the victims of their priests and bishops.
(updated from last night)–
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Monkeyhawk
Posted June 25, 2009 at 11:08 pm | Permalink
Why has no one noticed
today’sThursday’s headlines –Supreme Court Rules Strip Search of Child Illegal
Pop Legend Michael Jackson Dead at 50
Tomorrow’sToday’s front page could be a collectors’ item.Mark Sanford…in concert!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TytGOeiW0aE&feature=player_embedded
Wake and bake this morning Chimp?
On this date, Jun 26th, record setting temperatures for Wichita Kansas
High: 109 °F (1980)
Low: 47 °F (1958)
Those silly libs.
Confrontation Erupts Between Representatives Waters, Obey on House Floor
An altercation erupted on the House floor Thursday evening between House Appropriations Committee Chairman Dave Obey (D-Wisc.) and Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.).The incident stemmed from Rep. Obey’s refusal to fund an earmark that Rep. Waters requested, sources told FOX. Waters specifically wanted federal money set aside for an institute named after her. Obey, who is skeptical of many earmarks, has long refused to fund any more “monuments to me.” The institute in question was named for Waters before she requested the earmark.Upon Obey’s refusal, Waters insisted Obey reward the money instead to a school that could serve as a conduit to the institute, but Obey told Waters that wasn’t acceptable and “became irate,” said a source.Obey tried to walk away from Waters, but she continued to browbeat the Appropriations Committee Chairman and followed him around the House floor, according to reports.”She was in his face,” a source said.Other media reported that the altercation evolved into a “shoving match.” Those reports could not be confirmed.Ellis Brachman, a spokesman for Obey said that Waters “accosted” his boss and “made a scene.”Attempts to reach Waters for comment were unsuccessful.
GMC70 posted June 26, 2009 at 12:09 am
Wanna see what is probably more greenhouse gasses, in one fell swoop, than man has produced in all of human history?
Here it is:
[link]
God’s creation is magnificant, isn’t it? And we have the audacity to think we know what we’re doing . . . .
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Humans have emitted, and are emitting much more CO2 per year than volcanoes.
“cosmos_originally” reminds –
“Humans have emitted, and are emitting much more CO2 per year than volcanoes.”
Yeah.
But without the photo-ops.
The whole coal-fired campaign against climate protection is just PR nagging from those who profit from fossil fuel. They know all logic and reason is against them, but they’ll spend millions to keep making billions as long as they can.
Rising Death Toll at U.S. Military Hospital in Afghanistan
With 2009 expected to be the bloodiest year since the U.S. invaded Afghanistan, medical personnel at Bagram’s SSG Heath N. Craig Joint Theater Hospital say they’ve already seen an increase in casualties and expect more. The flow of dead and wounded puts enormous strain on the soldiers and the medical staff who must face it head on.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529149,00.html?test=latestnews
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cosmos_originally
Posted June 26, 2009 at 9:09 am | Permalink
GMC70 posted June 26, 2009 at 12:09 am
Wanna see what is probably more greenhouse gasses, in one fell swoop, than man has produced in all of human history?
Here it is:
[link]
God’s creation is magnificant, isn’t it? And we have the audacity to think we know what we’re doing . . . .
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Humans have emitted, and are emitting much more CO2 per year than volcanoes.
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There are more climate changing gases to volcanoes than just co2.
Sulfur dioxide is capable of instantly affecting climate. The 1783 incident of Iceland exploding volcanic fissures is a prime example. After erupting, sulfur dioxide and volcanic particles change the climate of North America, Central America and Europe for several decades. It may have caused up to 10,000 deaths in England and is responsible for starvation in Egypt due to crop failures.
co2 is not the only gas in town numb nuts.
China argues to replace US dollar
The dollar has been the world’s reserve currency for decades China’s central bank has reiterated its call for a new reserve currency to replace the US dollar.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8120835.stm
“Nathaniel” comes down from the mountain and reveals –
“co2 is not the only gas in town numb nuts.”
Ah, the nice little name-calling tag at the end, eh boy?
If you will recall, emission controls s of sulfur dioxide have been in place for years, using the Repubic Party strategy (they controlled both Congress and the White House at the time) of “Cap and Trade.”
So it’s no longer an urgent issue, even if volcanoes don’t obey the law! And Canada’s acid rain problem has abated.
And no one except CONs have ever asserted the entire issue of climate change hinges on CO2. That’s just been the emphasis of fossil fuel public relations lately.
You CONs have been pretty crafty reducing a macro issue into a micro tempest in a teapot.
The transition might be tough, but if it were up to me I’d shut down every coal-burning power plant today and convert them into, I dunno, petting zoos.
We’d get by eventually.
With eco-friendly, renewable, efficient energy policies.
President Obama — an über moderate — is approaching issues incrementally. That hardly makes him the “mulatto Stalin” or whatever “HLP” calls him.
Spew 10 million year-old-CO2 (okay, for you: 8,000 year-old CO2) into the atmosphere and deforest jungles that suck that stuff up. What could possibly go wrong?
This morning, I had a bacon & maple doughnut with coffee at the Doughnut Whole shop. It’s located on east Douglas not far west of East High School. You will recognize the 20 foot tall rooster on it’s roof. Great doughnuts.
A little different from the steaming hot doughnuts I used to buy directly from Lamar at his original Lamar’s doughnut shop a little south of downtown Kansas City, Mo.
Monkeyhawk
Posted June 26, 2009 at 9:42 am | Permalink
“Nathaniel” comes down from the mountain and reveals –
“co2 is not the only gas in town numb nuts.”
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No he didn’t.
The transition might be tough, but if it were up to me I’d shut down every coal-burning power plant today and convert them into, I dunno, petting zoos.
-Monkeyhawk
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Fantastic idea, shut down the USA and knock us back to the Iron Age in one day.
You notice how everything this administration and congress is doing lately is rush rush rush? No time given to form bills. No time given to read the bills. Just rush rush rush. Could it be because the bills would not stand the light of day and survive? Didn’t obama promise to post the legislation before he signed it?
If these plans and programs are so good for the nation, why do they have to be cloaked and rushed through?
SolDevVB
Posted June 26, 2009 at 9:52 am | Permalink
You notice how everything this administration and congress is doing lately is rush rush rush? No time given to form bills. No time given to read the bills. Just rush rush rush. Could it be because the bills would not stand the light of day and survive? Didn’t obama promise to post the legislation before he signed it?
If these plans and programs are so good for the nation, why do they have to be cloaked and rushed through?
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He gets away with not posting everything (”transparancy” as promised) when it’s all an “emergency”
SolDevVB
Posted June 26, 2009 at 9:52 am | Permalink
You notice how everything this administration and congress is doing lately is rush rush rush? No time given to form bills. No time given to read the bills. Just rush rush rush. Could it be because the bills would not stand the light of day and survive? Didn’t obama promise to post the legislation before he signed it?
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You ain’t seen nothing yet Bro.
Wait until O’Bama’s Czars kill into full force. They have zero Congressional oversight as they were appointed by the executive branch.
The “Yes We can” people are about to turn into “Yes We Will dictators and there is nothing you or Congress can do about it.”
Note to self –
In light of today’s WE Blog contributions from CONs, invest in the Depends company.
And more from North Korea..
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/06/24/international/i002013D27.DTL
Permission to come aboard Mr. Wang? No? OK, have a nice day!
If we do not intend to board the ship and inspect its contents why are we wasting the resources to get it there?
Michael Jackson is dead, I really don’t care.,he had no impact on anything relevant. With the problems this country is facing the hoopla over his death would be funny,if it wasn’t such a sad commentary on what a lot of Americans think is important
OMG! Congess just observed a moment of silence for Jackson,don’t they have anything better to do?
That was mulatto messiah, but “mulatto Stalin” could be a better fit.
Do the good people of Iola know what a vulgar nitwit you are?
Who do you think the morons that gather outside hospitals, homes etc. in situations like this voted for?
Iranian Cleric Calls For Punishment, Says Opposition Leaders ‘Worthy of Execution’
Fox News
O’Bama is hoping for same in the U.S. …
Hansen the political activist
Any pretense that he is an unbiased scientist is clearly disproven by his own actions — denials notwithstanding. He is basically just a childish attention-seeker. When as a little kid, he said “Mommy, look at me”, his mother probably did not look
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James E. Hansen, the NASA climate scientist who has become an outspoken campaigner against coal burning, was among 31 protesters arrested on charges of obstructing officers and impeding traffic during a protest against mountaintop mining. They had initially sought to enter the grounds of a facility run by Massey Energy, the biggest company conducting mountaintop mining in West Virginia. But several hundred miners and relatives, along with supporters of the coal industry, blocked the entrance, according to the Charleston Gazette.
The protesters included Ken Hechler, 94, a former congressman, the actress Darryl Hannah and the executive director of the Rainforest Action Network. (Here are more photos from the day’s events, taken by Antrim Caskey.)
In a statement distributed by the Rainforest Action Network, Dr. Hansen said:
I am not a politician; I am a scientist and a citizen. Politicians may have to advocate for halfway measures if they choose. But it is our responsibility to make sure our representatives feel the full force of citizens who speak for what is right, not what is politically expedient. Mountaintop removal, providing only a small fraction of our energy, should be abolished.
Dr. Hansen has said for years that growing reliance on coal, far more so than oil, is the biggest threat to the global climate. As a result, he has strongly criticized the climate bill that is facing a vote by the full House of Representatives on Friday. He cites studies concluding that various provisions would allow expanded coal use in coming decades despite an overall cap on emissions of carbon dioxide. In a profile of Dr. Hansen by Elizabeth Kolbert in the current issue of the New Yorker (subscription required), she pressed him on his stance:
Dr. Hansen pointed out that the bill explicitly allows for the construction of new coal plants and predicted that it would, if passed, prove close to meaningless. He said that he thought it would probably be best if the bill failed, so that Congress could “come back and do it more sensibly”.
I said that if the bill failed I thought it was more likely Congress would let the issue drop, and that was one reason most of the country’s major environmental groups were backing it. “This is just stupidity on the part of environmental organizations in Washington,” Dr. Hansen said. “The fact that some of these organizations have become part of the Washington ‘go along, get along’ establishment is very unfortunate.”
Dr. Hansen has pushed far beyond the boundaries of the conventional role of scientists, particularly government scientists, in the environmental policy debate.
SOURCE
NYT dot Earth
Monica Conyers pleads guilty to conspiracy
Conyers, the wife of powerful Democratic congressman U.S. Rep. John Conyers, appeared before Cohn to answer charges in connection with the wide-ranging probe of wrongdoing at Detroit city hall.
http://www.freep.com/article/20090626/NEWS01/90626024/Conyers+convicted+of+conspiracy
“HLP” entones –
“That was mulatto messiah, but “mulatto Stalin” could be a better fit.”
Use it with my compliments, “HLP.”
I make my living these days mostly as a script doctor. Glad to improve your writing.
Wanna have lunch sometime?
“Do the good people of Iola know what a vulgar nitwit you are?”
I doubt it.
But the bad people of Iola suspect it.
Anyway, the good people of Iola probably wouldn’t recognize a vulgar idiot until they saw one.
Come over for lunch sometime.
Check this out… LOTS of useful and interesting information >>>>
http://www.ls.cc.al.us/blackhistory/blackhistory.html
Chas
Posted June 26, 2009 at 10:30 am | Permalink
Check this out… LOTS of useful and interesting information >>>>
http://www.ls.cc.al.us/blackhistory/blackhistory.html
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I’ll wait until February.
“Come over for lunch sometime.”
Let me know when you are in Wichita again, maybe we can get together.
We might have a lot more in common than you think. I have worked on more than one script for Hollywood producers.
I’ve been a technical writer for aircraft and target missiles. I currently edit medical papers.
ANTI
Posted June 26, 2009 at 10:32 am | Permalink
Chas
Posted June 26, 2009 at 10:30 am | Permalink
Check this out… LOTS of useful and interesting information >>>>
http://www.ls.cc.al.us/blackhistory/blackhistory.html
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I’ll wait until February.
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Typical bigot-type response…
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ANTI
Posted June 26, 2009 at 10:32 am | Permalink
Chas
Posted June 26, 2009 at 10:30 am | Permalink
Check this out… LOTS of useful and interesting information >>>>
http://www.ls.cc.al.us/blackhistory/blackhistory.html
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I’ll wait until February.
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hahaha!
Had to click on the link to get it. :)
Chas
Posted June 26, 2009 at 10:39 am | Permalink
ANTI
Posted June 26, 2009 at 10:32 am | Permalink
Chas
Posted June 26, 2009 at 10:30 am | Permalink
Check this out… LOTS of useful and interesting information >>>>
http://www.ls.cc.al.us/blackhistory/blackhistory.html
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I’ll wait until February.
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Typical bigot-type response…
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How so?
You do know there is an entire month dedicated to the subject, Chas.
Of course i know that nitwit!!!
Chas
Posted June 26, 2009 at 10:43 am | Permalink
Of course i know that nitwit!!!
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So what is bigoted about the celebration of Black History Month, Chas???
Hmmmmmm?!!?
Black History Month isnt bigoted… Your response to a link to black legacy in America… “wait till february” — IS a bigoted comment….
Remember — no time like the present… You might have a massive cardiac arret before February!! :-)
Hank,
Do you understand the idea of a “virtual” office?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/06/open-thread-625-3/#comment-610868
“Humans have emitted, and are emitting much more CO2 per year than volcanoes.”
got any credible links for that or did your god the computer model tell you that?
donndublin,
You lie about what I post.
Research it yourself.
Chas
Posted June 26, 2009 at 10:51 am | Permalink
Black History Month isnt bigoted… Your response to a link to black legacy in America… “wait till february” — IS a bigoted comment….
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I wonder what would happen if we demanded a White History month.
cosMo lies about Dr. Miskolzci and then lies about the lie. Then he thinks a double lie like a double negative is the truth.
Human caused CO2 is irrelevant just like cosMo.
chas must be black.
donndublin,
Thank you for proving my point.
“HLP” –
You agreed we’d meet at my place, your time, until you reneged. Twice.
If I were someone such as “Boxloc20,” I could post here I’d meet you at any number of Wichita places for lunch (I’m particularly nostalgic for a Nu-Way burger) and I’d just not show up. To, in “Boxlock20’s” words, “teach you a lesson.”
Nah.
Same deal as you agreed to originally:
My place.
Your time.
Second time:
Your place.
My time.
How hard is that to live with, “HLP?”
I even invited the boy to join you for the second scheduled lunch you agreed to.
I guess it was bad flying weather that day: severely clear.
It’s pretty much up to you, “HLP,” when we meet up. You’ve committed twice and broken both commitments.
I was even preparing to meet you at the airport that day you said you’d take the opportunity to fly over to a restaurant that’s pretty much half-way between us in terms of travel time.
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cosmos_originally
Posted June 26, 2009 at 11:15 am | Permalink
donndublin,
Thank you for proving my point.
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And cosMo capitulates for the second day in a row.
NEXT.
cosmo can’t back up her claims. cosmo has no science.
LimpChimp,
I am afraid that meeting you just isn’t worth having to drive a long distance or fly to.
No Cosmos,
Than you! For proving our point!
donndublin
Posted June 26, 2009 at 11:10 am | Permalink
chas must be black.
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Wow, such an imagination!!! You just SNARK without even giving it a thought… Why dont you ask anybody on this Blog who knows me…. Not that you would believe them either….
You’re just another of the Wichita Idiot Bigots… WIB’s for short….
Chas,
Why don’t you answer the questions?
Do you think having a White History month would be alright? Would you support such a thing?
June 26, 2009 weather report for
PEVEK, RUSSIA
Weather report as of 2127 minutes ago (05:00 UTC):
The wind was blowing at a speed of 7 meters per second (15.7 miles per hour) from Northwest in Pevek, Russia. The temperature was 0 degrees Celsius (32 degrees Fahrenheit). Air pressure was 1,010 hPa (29.83 inHg). Relative humidity was 100.0%. There were overcast at a height of 366 meters (1200 feet). The visibility was >11.3 kilometers (>7 miles). Current weather is Light Rain and Snow.
June 26, 2009 weather report for
ALERT, NUNAVUT, CANADA
Weather report as of 25 minutes ago (16:00 UTC):
The wind was blowing at a speed of 2.6 meters per second (5.8 miles per hour) from West in Alert, Canada. The temperature was -1 degrees Celsius (30 degrees Fahrenheit). Air pressure was 1,015 hPa (29.96 inHg). Relative humidity was 92.9%. There were a few clouds at a height of 6096 meters (20000 feet). The visibility was 24.1 kilometers (15.0 miles). Current weather is light snow.
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How’s that ice doing cosMo?
Irish history months damnit. It has been just one day of green beer long enough. Give the Irish their due and their months!!!
NO!
We need Viking Month, after all they discovered North America before the Spaniards!!!
Hmmmmm!!!
Deny this and we will pillage your village, Sol!
charlie, You’re right I never thought about it before because it don’t matter to me what color you are.
I’d love to hear your answer to the question:
“Do you think having a White History month would be alright?”
Deny this and we will pillage your village, Sol!
I deny it. The Irish found it first ;~>
C’mon over. I’ve got enough BBQ and beverages your raiding party will never return! No one can turn down good ole yankified Texas BBQ and a few cold ones !!!
No one can turn down good ole yankified Texas BBQ and a few cold ones !!!
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Touche……
I’ll have to put on my horned thinking cap for this raid…..
Arctic sea ice extent? It’s about the same as in 2007.
Chas, there’s a Black man in the White House.
Civil Rights movement is complete.
Mr_Kia,
Has there been a Black man on the moon?
I would be glad if Obama were the first….
I’ll have to put on my horned thinking cap for this raid…..
I use one of those hats that holds two beers with straws. Works better for me ;~>
The Associated Press
WICHITA, Kan. – The preliminary hearing for an abortion opponent accused in the death of Dr. George Tiller has been delayed for another month, giving lawyers more time to examine evidence.
Sedgwick County District Judge Warren Wilbert on Friday set the preliminary hearing for Scott Roeder for July 28.
NOTHING seems to be going to plan for those who believe in anthropogenic global warming and an imminent climate crisis. According to thermometer and satellite data global surface temperatures are not increasing, the oceans aren’t warming, and now it seems not even the Arctic is melting.
The latest satellite data on Arctic sea ice extent suggests that there is now a normal amount of sea ice in the Arctic – normal is defined as about average for the period 1979 – 2007.
And when all is said and done, if the climate system is not accumulating heat, the AGW hypothesis is invalid.
The Climate Change Climate Change The number of skeptics is swelling everywhere.
Among the many reasons President Barack Obama and the Democratic majority are so intent on quickly jamming a cap-and-trade system through Congress is because the global warming tide is again shifting. It turns out Al Gore and the United Nations (with an assist from the media), did a little too vociferous a job smearing anyone who disagreed with them as “deniers.” The backlash has brought the scientific debate roaring back to life in Australia, Europe, Japan and even, if less reported, the U.S.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124597505076157449.html
“The collapse of the “consensus” has been driven by reality. The inconvenient truth is that the earth’s temperatures have flat-lined since 2001, despite growing concentrations of C02. Peer-reviewed research has debunked doomsday scenarios about the polar ice caps, hurricanes, malaria, extinctions, rising oceans. A global financial crisis has politicians taking a harder look at the science that would require them to hamstring their economies to rein in carbon.”
NO Nathan… You’re not worthy of a response..
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Huuuuuuuuuuuugh
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Poll: Specter’s numbers dive since ‘conversion’
By BOB WARNER
Philadelphia Daily News
warnerb@phillynews.com 215-854-5885
The strong backing of Democratic Party leaders has done little to change slumping public support for the party’s newest convert, U.S. Sen. Arlen Specter. Only 28 percent of all those surveyed say that he deserves re-election, according to the latest Keystone Poll, and double that number say it’s time for a change.
How’s that workin out fer ya Specter?
It’s easy to see how Republcians will get back in power. All they have to do is point out the irresponsibility of the spending by The Democrats and The Obama’s administration. Just like the old days. Spending like Democrats.
The important thing is to remember that it can be undone.
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House Democrats win key test vote on climate bill
Jun 26 12:03 PM US/Eastern
By H. JOSEF HEBERT and DINA CAPPIELLO
Associated Press Writers
Ad Slams 1,092-Page ‘Cap and Trade’ Legislation That Would Create $846B in Higher Taxes
WASHINGTON (AP) – House Democrats narrowly won a key test vote Friday on sweeping legislation to combat global warming and usher in a new era of cleaner energy. Republicans said the bill included “the largest tax increase in American history.”
The vote was 217-205 to advance the White House-backed legislation to the floor, and 30 Democrats defected, a reflection of the controversy the bill sparked.
The legislation would impose limits for the first time on carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas pollution from power plants, factories and refineries. It also would force a shift from coal and other fossil fuels to renewable and more efficient forms of energy. Supporters and opponents agreed the result would be higher energy costs, but disagreed widely on the impact on consumers.
President Barack Obama has made the measure a top priority of his first year in office. The president, along with White House aides and House Democratic leaders, scrambled for the votes to assure passage. Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has pledged to get the legislation passed before lawmakers leave on their July 4 vacation.
The Senate has yet to act on the measure, and a major struggle is expected.
In the House, the bill’s fate depended on the decisions of a few dozen fence-sitting Democrats, mainly conservatives and moderates from contested districts who feared the political ramifications of siding with the White House and their leadership on the measure.
Democrats left little or nothing to chance. Rep. Ellen Tauscher, D-Calif., confirmed by the Senate on Thursday to an administration post, put off her resignation from Congress until after the final vote on the climate change bill.
“The bill contains provisions to protect consumers, keep costs low, help sensitive industries transition to a clean energy economy and promote domestic emission reduction efforts,” the White House in a statement of support for the legislation.
Republicans saw it differently.
This “amounts to the largest tax increase in American history under the guise of climate change,” said Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind.
While the bill would impose a “cap-and-trade” system that would force higher energy costs, Republicans for weeks have branded it an energy tax on every American.
But Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass., said there was a “moral imperative to be good stewards of the earth.”
The legislation, totaling about 1,200 pages, would require the U.S. to reduce carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions by 17 percent from 2005 levels by 2020 and about 80 percent by the next century.
U.S. carbon dioxide emissions from the burning of fossil fuels are rising at about 1 percent a year and are predicted to continue increasing without mandatory caps.
Under the bill, the government would limit heat-trapping pollution from factories, refineries and power plants. It would distribute pollution allowances that could be bought and sold, depending on whether a facility exceeds the cap or makes greater pollution cuts than are required.
Obama on Thursday called it “a vote of historic proportions … that will open the door to a clean energy economy” and green jobs. “It will create millions of new jobs,” Pelosi insisted.
Both Obama and Pelosi preferred to focus on the economic issues rather than on what environmentalists view as the urgency of reducing carbon emissions blamed for global warming.
The Rust Belt coal-state Democrats who have been sitting on the fence worry about how to explain their vote for higher energy prices to people back home—and how the vote might play out in elections next year.
Republicans have been quick to exploit those concerns.
“Democratic leaders are poised to march many moderate Democrats over a cliff … by forcing them to vote for a national energy tax that is unpopular throughout the heartland,” Republican leader John Boehner of Ohio said.
There was widespread agreement that under this cap-and-trade system, the cost of energy would almost certainly increase. But Democrats argued that much of the impact on taxpayers would be offset by other provisions in the bill. Low-income consumers would qualify for credits and rebates to cushion the impact on their energy bills.
Two reports issued this week—one from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office and the other from the Environmental Protection Agency—seemed to support that argument.
The CBO analysis estimated that the bill would cost an average household $175 a year; the EPA put it at between $80 and $110 a year.
Republicans questioned the validity of the CBO study and noted that even that analysis showed actual energy production costs increasing $770 per household. Industry groups have cited other studies showing much higher cost to the economy and to individuals.
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ANTI
Posted June 26, 2009 at 11:33 am | Permalink
NO!
We need Viking Month, after all they discovered North America before the Spaniards!!!
Hmmmmm!!!
Deny this and we will pillage your village, Sol!
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Buffon!
Everyone knows Pirates are in vogue!
ARrrrrRrrrrrr…
But the tide is changing. That is the reason for The Obama’s administration trying to cram this down everyone’s throat.
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The Climate Change Climate Change
The number of skeptics is swelling everywhere.
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By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL
Steve Fielding recently asked the Obama administration to reassure him on the science of man-made global warming. When the administration proved unhelpful, Mr. Fielding decided to vote against climate-change legislation.
If you haven’t heard of this politician, it’s because he’s a member of the Australian Senate. As the U.S. House of Representatives prepares to pass a climate-change bill, the Australian Parliament is preparing to kill its own country’s carbon-emissions scheme. Why? A growing number of Australian politicians, scientists and citizens once again doubt the science of human-caused global warming.
Among the many reasons President Barack Obama and the Democratic majority are so intent on quickly jamming a cap-and-trade system through Congress is because the global warming tide is again shifting. It turns out Al Gore and the United Nations (with an assist from the media), did a little too vociferous a job smearing anyone who disagreed with them as “deniers.” The backlash has brought the scientific debate roaring back to life in Australia, Europe, Japan and even, if less reported, the U.S.
In April, the Polish Academy of Sciences published a document challenging man-made global warming. In the Czech Republic, where President Vaclav Klaus remains a leading skeptic, today only 11% of the population believes humans play a role. In France, President Nicolas Sarkozy wants to tap Claude Allegre to lead the country’s new ministry of industry and innovation. Twenty years ago Mr. Allegre was among the first to trill about man-made global warming, but the geochemist has since recanted. New Zealand last year elected a new government, which immediately suspended the country’s weeks-old cap-and-trade program.
The number of skeptics, far from shrinking, is swelling. Oklahoma Sen. Jim Inhofe now counts more than 700 scientists who disagree with the U.N. — 13 times the number who authored the U.N.’s 2007 climate summary for policymakers. Joanne Simpson, the world’s first woman to receive a Ph.D. in meteorology, expressed relief upon her retirement last year that she was finally free to speak “frankly” of her nonbelief. Dr. Kiminori Itoh, a Japanese environmental physical chemist who contributed to a U.N. climate report, dubs man-made warming “the worst scientific scandal in history.” Norway’s Ivar Giaever, Nobel Prize winner for physics, decries it as the “new religion.” A group of 54 noted physicists, led by Princeton’s Will Happer, is demanding the American Physical Society revise its position that the science is settled. (Both Nature and Science magazines have refused to run the physicists’ open letter.)
The collapse of the “consensus” has been driven by reality. The inconvenient truth is that the earth’s temperatures have flat-lined since 2001, despite growing concentrations of C02. Peer-reviewed research has debunked doomsday scenarios about the polar ice caps, hurricanes, malaria, extinctions, rising oceans. A global financial crisis has politicians taking a harder look at the science that would require them to hamstring their economies to rein in carbon.
Credit for Australia’s own era of renewed enlightenment goes to Dr. Ian Plimer, a well-known Australian geologist. Earlier this year he published “Heaven and Earth,” a damning critique of the “evidence” underpinning man-made global warming. The book is already in its fifth printing. So compelling is it that Paul Sheehan, a noted Australian columnist — and ardent global warming believer — in April humbly pronounced it “an evidence-based attack on conformity and orthodoxy, including my own, and a reminder to respect informed dissent and beware of ideology subverting evidence.” Australian polls have shown a sharp uptick in public skepticism; the press is back to questioning scientific dogma; blogs are having a field day.
The rise in skepticism also came as Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, elected like Mr. Obama on promises to combat global warming, was attempting his own emissions-reduction scheme. His administration was forced to delay the implementation of the program until at least 2011, just to get the legislation through Australia’s House. The Senate was not so easily swayed.
Mr. Fielding, a crucial vote on the bill, was so alarmed by the renewed science debate that he made a fact-finding trip to the U.S., attending the Heartland Institute’s annual conference for climate skeptics. He also visited with Joseph Aldy, Mr. Obama’s special assistant on energy and the environment, where he challenged the Obama team to address his doubts. They apparently didn’t.
This week Mr. Fielding issued a statement: He would not be voting for the bill. He would not risk job losses on “unconvincing green science.” The bill is set to founder as the Australian parliament breaks for the winter.
Republicans in the U.S. have, in recent years, turned ever more to the cost arguments against climate legislation. That’s made sense in light of the economic crisis. If Speaker Nancy Pelosi fails to push through her bill, it will be because rural and Blue Dog Democrats fret about the economic ramifications. Yet if the rest of the world is any indication, now might be the time for U.S. politicians to re-engage on the science. One thing for sure: They won’t be alone.
Chas,
Yet you responded. You just don’t have enough balls to answer the question.
“Nathaniel” shatters my self-esteem with –
“…meeting you just isn’t worth having to drive a long distance or fly to.”
Yeah, boy.
But your dad said he was up to it, until he flaked out.
I just figured I’d include you in the second meet-up your dad agreed to… so you could out-gun me 2 to zero.
Apparently neither of you liked those odds.
You’re both craven little pipsqueaks until it comes to backing up your WE Blog posts with real world action.
According to “HLP’s” account, your most recent active duty for the Marine Corps involved teaching jarheads how to change the oil of a Humvee.
Well let me step up as a patriotic American and shout, “SAH-Lute, Private Price!”
Your courage and dedication inspire us all.
On the other hand…
The salvation of my immortal soul is important enough to me to ask you to invite me to your church services and the opportunity to take the altar call and get dunked in the baptismal font. And you’ve rejected all my requests; as if you secretly want me to suffer eternity treading molten brimstone and fire.
Keep entertaining yourself with your
inflatable?Ann Coulter doll.Keep running to “HLP” every time he refers to you as “boy,” and keep being hurt and offended when I do the same.
Keep declaring who is and who isn’t a “Christian,” boy, as you purposefully reject unsaved such as me from the salvation you’ve found at your church home.
Governor Sanford a real D.A.
source: Fox News
Not only is his wife Jenny a person of faith and strong organizational skills, she stood behind her husband with unquestioned faith. Governor Sanford is just – well stupid.
Jenny Sanford, a millionaire, helped launch her husband’s political career nearly 15 years ago, running his campaigns for Congress and governor and putting up with campaign workers living in the basement of their Sullivans Island home.
Though she has stayed largely in the background, it is common knowledge that she was her husband’s chief adviser. She has been a regular at his morning meetings with his top aides.
Close friends know her as a warm, bubbly person with an infectious smile. But in political circles, she is seen as a formidable figure, not to be crossed.
“She’s a highly organized, corporate-type person,” said former state Rep. John Graham Altman, a Republican. “I think Jenny’s very calm, very controlled. She’s extremely gifted and talented. … It’s clear she was the governor of the governor.”
ANTI
Posted June 26, 2009 at 11:51 am | Permalink
The Associated Press
WICHITA, Kan. – The preliminary hearing for an abortion opponent accused in the death of Dr. George Tiller has been delayed for another month, giving lawyers more time to examine evidence.
Sedgwick County District Judge Warren Wilbert on Friday set the preliminary hearing for Scott Roeder for July 28.
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I hope it’s the defense and not Nola that stupid that evidence still needs examining.
Perhaps it involves the Feds getting involved and it becoming a Federal crime?
LimpChimp,
Nothing but your lies again I see…
It is obvious you have no interest in actually seeking out Christ or becoming a Christian. Why would I waste my time or anyone elses by inviting you to my church?
If you were really interested, there are tons of churches all over. Go to one of them. This is just your little stupid game trying to make this about me. So sorry I am not interested.
I am not hurt or offened by your calling me a boy. Just pointing out to you that every time you try to claim that you don’t call people names, that you do.
Yes, I do know how to change the oil in a Humvee. That is not what I was doing or what my father told you.
“Nathaniel” –
It might be obvious even to you that other churches haven’t led me to Christ.
Yours led you.
Share it with me.
Don’t you believe in miracles?
And, for the record, I’ve never referred to you as, “…a boy.”
I’ve merely used the same affectionate nickname your beloved father uses. Is he calling you names, boy?
Where’s that outrage, boy?
Deal with your family before you lash out against someone you’re afraid of meeting face-to-face, boy.
And thanks for telling us all my calling you “boy” doesn’t bother you.
There have been some questions about that.
WASHINGTON (AP) – House Democrats narrowly won a key test vote Friday on sweeping legislation to combat global warming and usher in a new era of cleaner energy. Republicans said the bill included “the largest tax increase in American history.”
The vote was 217-205 to advance the White House-backed legislation to the floor, and 30 Democrats defected, a reflection of the controversy the bill sparked.
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It’s time to redouble our efforts to see that the Senate kills this fraud.
59% and you’re running test votes?
How fouled up is this legislation?
LimpChimp,
More lies…
I didn’t say I was afraid to meet you. I said you were not worth flying to see or driving that far to see.
If you are so obsessed with meeting me, feel free to drop by Wichita.
Obviously you are too stupid to grasp such a simple concept.
My father calls me “boy” because it is a nickname he uses. No one else does except for you.
Just like my friend calls his wife sweetheart, I don’t. I don’t call his wife honey, baby, or any of the other pet names he uses with her.
You have no place to call me “boy” as I have told you several times now.
If you will recall, “Nathaniel” –
Your name came up only when your sainted father agreed to meet up with me a second time.
You were, appropriately, an after-thought.
So much for my “obsession.”
I call you “boy,” boy, because it’s a nickname your beloved father calls you. In public. On WE Blog. For all to see and appreciate.
I thought it was a term of affection.
And I have nothing but affection for you, boy. You’ve been up-front and straight-forward enough to dissuade me from ever shooting your dog.
But you have Jesus in your life! I guess I just don’t have it. And you have the key to it all. And you could invite me to join you at that one place that set you on God’s straight-and-narrow, and you persist on keeping me from salvation.
Good luck with that on Judgment Day.
But now I’m disquieted.
You say your beloved father’s reference to “boy” is –
“Just like my friend calls his wife sweetheart…”
I had no idea it was “just like” that.
Does “HLP call you “sweetheart,” too?
Does he refer to you as “…honey, baby, or any other pet names”?
I’ll try to remember that in the future, sweetheart.
House dems passing an energy bill which will cost the public billions more in taxes and do no good whatsoever.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31565446/ns/us_news-environment/
Military Pork?
The Armed Service committee today finished marking up military spending bill, including:
Provides $1.75 billion for buying seven F-22A aircraft, rather than terminating the production program as requested by the Department.
• Provides an additional $560 million to buy 18 F/A-18E/F aircraft, rather than nine aircraft as requested, and authorizes the full request for 22 EA-18G aircraft.
• Provides $438.9 million to continue development of the F136 Joint Strike Fighter alternate engine. (which the Pentagon requested not be produced)
DavidB,
Want another history lesson?
How about explaining how we would carpet bomb civiliains AGAIN in Vietnam when we never did any such thing in the first place?
One of Michael Jackson’s efforts to relieve famine…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzw6GiqZyD0&feature=player_embedded
This man did much more than all of us put together ….
First Michael Jackson joke heard today:
Since Michael was 99% plastic, how about they melt him down, turn him into Lego’s and let kids play with him for while?
Thanks! I read Karnow’s book, excerpted below,
Teach me all about Lt Calley, instead?
In his book Vietnam: A History, veteran journalist Stanley Karnow presents the account given by a Vietnamese peasant of one bombing raid:
“The bombing started at about eight o’clock in the morning and lasted for hours. When we first heard the explosions, we rushed into the tunnels but not everyone made it. When there was a pause in the attack, some of us climbed out to see what we could do, and the scene was terrifying. Bodies had been torn to pieces—limbs were hanging from trees and scattered around the ground. The bombing began again, this time with napalm, and the village went up in flames. The napalm hit me. I felt as if I was burning all over, like a piece of coal. I lost consciousness. Friends took me to the hospital, and my wounds didn’t begin to heal until six months later. Over 200 people died in the raid, including my mother, sister-in-law and three nephews. They were buried alive when the tunnel collapsed.”
Just got a dell inspiron 530s computer. Like it so far, not too sure about Vista though.
not too sure about Vista though.
You can pre-order Windows 7 now for only $99.
Vista $u(ks a$s. Highly recomend the upgrade.
http://www.microsoftstore.com/s/windows7?WT.mc_id=pointitsem_win7_generic_upgrade&WT.srch=1
“DavidB” reminds us of –
“One of Michael Jackson’s efforts to relieve famine…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzw6GiqZyD0&feature=player_embedded“
And it’s easy to be cynical about “We Are the World.”
But the guy got hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of talent into the same room on the same day for a common cause.
Did it change the world?
Nah.
But it was an effort.
Poor ol’ MJ was screwed up in a lot of, not all of his own doing.
But some of it…
(to use the professional term)
EEEWWWW!
Nonetheless, the kid had talent.
And for a while he tried.
I dread the toxicology report that’s coming.
But even though I wasn’t particularly a fan, I cherish what he did when he was alive. Despite the advantages; despite the impediments.
All in all, a pretty good 50 years.
Anyone here done better?
All in all, a pretty good 50 years.
Anyone here done better?
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I’m not 50 yet.
All in all, a pretty good 50 years.
Anyone here done better?
I have.
I’m not 200 plus million dollars in debt like Michael Jackson.
Shoot, ANTI’s not even 18 yet!! LOL
Too bad Farah lost any the limelight.
A joke on T95 today.
What did Farah and MJ have in common?
Chas
Posted June 26, 2009 at 3:38 pm | Permalink
Shoot ANTI
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I will be alerting WPD as to your terroristic comments.
You do that D.A.
District Attorney, you got it Chas.
Chas
Posted June 26, 2009 at 3:38 pm | Permalink
Shoot, ANTI’s not even 18 yet!! LOL
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Just so you get the quote RIGHT when you call WPD…. The simple fact that you cant post an accurate post sort of tells many you must not be 18 yet… Just go fugg off somewhere… You’re messing up the Blog..
In your case, ANTI, that would be Dumb Azz..
Stop bothering me Chas, I’m on the phone.
donndublin
Posted June 26, 2009 at 3:40 pm | Permalink
Too bad Farah lost any the limelight.
A joke on T95 today.
What did Farah and MJ have in common?
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Don’t leave us hanging.
Well, ANTI, get off of it before you break it…
Mitch McConnell called out on lies about Canada health care–
http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/june/response_to_the_sena.php
For example, you state that at KGH wait times can be
“staggering.” This is simply not true. Our average and median wait times exceed provincial targets. Your researchers have taken data and interpreted it incorrectly, with the result that your information is inaccurate.
Your statement to the Senate: “Today, the average wait time for (hip replacement) surgery at KGH is about 196 days.” In fact, our actual average hip replacement wait time is 91 days — less than half of what you stated.
Your statement to the Senate: “What about knee replacements? Well, at Kingston General, the average wait time is 340 days, or almost a year from the moment that the doctor says you need a new knee.” In fact, our average wait time for knee replacements is 109 days.
Your statement to the Senate: “What about brain cancer? In Ontario the target wait time for brain cancer surgery is nearly three months; same for breast cancer and prostate cancer.” These are simply that, targets. In fact, at KGH our average overall wait times for surgical treatment of all forms of cancer is 31 days (16 days for breast cancer, 49 for prostate and eight for neurosurgical cancer).
Your statement to the Senate: “And for cardiac bypass surgery, patients in Ontario are told they may have to wait six months for a surgery that Americans can often get right away.” In fact, the median wait time for cardiac surgery in Ontario is 16 days (32 days at KGH).
In summary, Senator McConnell, in an effort to advance your position opposing public health care, you have maligned a very proud institution whose service to our community dates back some 170 years. The “glimpse” you have provided of our national healthcare system neglects to mention that at its very base is Canadians’ fundamental right to accessible and quality health care regardless of their financial circumstances.
Sounds like a hell of a lot of waiting, Capn’A.
heehee, Michael Jackson is no longer in debt…
Say, have we seen the Ark of the Covenant yet, as reported in the World NEt Daily? http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=102200
DavidB
Posted June 26, 2009 at 4:14 pm | Permalink
heehee, Michael Jackson is no longer in debt…
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Question is with all the real and imagined ailments he had over the years did he have healthcare?
more on Canadian Health Care.. and don’t forget, getting sick is not the major cause of bankruptcy and home loss in Canada, as it is here….
BTW, Capn’A’s story comes from Physicians for a National Health Program.
DavidB — Maybe Elijah took it with him in the fiery chariot for safe keeping… :-)
DavidB
Posted June 26, 2009 at 4:14 pm | Permalink
heehee, Michael Jackson is no longer in debt…
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Yeah, but what are Blanket and Coffee Table going to do?
The question is, Kia, why would you even care??
coffee table? HA
man you’re lucky I wasn’t drinking something you’d owe me a new monitor.
Does health care cover drug addiction??
Chas
Posted June 26, 2009 at 4:24 pm | Permalink
The question is, Kia, why would you even care??
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If he had health care?
I think it’s an interesting topic based on the pre-existing conditions discussion in another thread.
To answer your other question, a good policy will cover rehab.
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Mr_Kia
Posted June 26, 2009 at 3:54 pm | Permalink
donndublin
Posted June 26, 2009 at 3:40 pm | Permalink
Too bad Farah lost any the limelight.
A joke on T95 today.
What did Farah and MJ have in common?
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Don’t leave us hanging.
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They are both famous white women. lol
are = were sorry.
BTW, Capn’A’s story comes from Physicians for a National Health Program.
and AUTHORED BY Dr. David Zelt, chief of staff and vice-president, medical administration, at Kingston General Hospital.
Not some talking head… the Chief of Staff and Medical Adminstrator
DavidB
Posted June 26, 2009 at 4:43 pm | Permalink
BTW, Capn’A’s story comes from Physicians for a National Health Program.
and AUTHORED BY Dr. David Zelt, chief of staff and vice-president, medical administration, at Kingston General Hospital.
Not some talking head… the Chief of Staff and Medical Adminstrator
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Yeah,
He wouldn’t have any reason to make his hospital/medical system look good, would he?
Anti.. they have scientific tracking with verifiable data…
“We have an excellent data collection system at our hospital and I would invite you or a member of your staff to contact me or other officials of this institution for accurate and current information that would be helpful in keeping the American public correctly informed during your important and ongoing debate on health care.’ – Dr. David Zel
Capn bad news for the pushers of socialized healthcare in the US.
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Unsocialized Medicine
A landmark ruling exposes Canada’s health-care inequity. Monday, June 13, 2005 12:01 A.M. EDT
Let’s hope Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy were sitting down when they heard the news of the latest bombshell Supreme Court ruling. From the Supreme Court of Canada, that is. That high court issued an opinion last Thursday saying, in effect, that Canada’s vaunted public health-care system produces intolerable inequality.
Call it the hip that changed health-care history. When George Zeliotis of Quebec was told in 1997 that he would have to wait a year for a replacement for his painful, arthritic hip, he did what every Canadian who’s been put on a waiting list does: He got mad. He got even madder when he learned it was against the law to pay for a replacement privately. But instead of heading south to a hospital in Boston or Cleveland, as many Canadians already do, he teamed up to file a lawsuit with Jacques Chaoulli, a Montreal doctor. The duo lost in two provincial courts before their win last week.
The court’s decision strikes down a Quebec law banning private medical insurance and is bound to upend similar laws in other provinces. Canada is the only nation other than Cuba and North Korea that bans private health insurance, according to Sally Pipes, head of the Pacific Research Institute in San Francisco and author of a recent book on Canada’s health-care system.
“Access to a waiting list is not access to health care,” wrote Chief Justice Beverly McLachlin for the 4-3 Court last week. Canadians wait an average of 17.9 weeks for surgery and other therapeutic treatments, according the Vancouver-based Fraser Institute. The waits would be even longer if Canadians didn’t have access to the U.S. as a medical-care safety valve. Or, in the case of fortunate elites such as Prime Minister Paul Martin, if they didn’t have access to a small private market in some non-core medical services. Mr. Martin’s use of a private clinic for his annual checkup set off a political firestorm last year.
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Even the SC in Canada knows their healthcare is a piece of krap. What are you defending?
It would appear McConnell knows a lot more about CanadaCare that you do Capn. Or at least their supreme court says so.
Interesting end to the piece on the Canadian court ruling:
“There are only two ways to allocate any good or service: through prices, as is done in a market economy, or lines dictated by government, as in Canada’s system. The socialist claim is that a single-payer system is more equal than one based on prices, but last week’s court decision reveals that as an illusion. Or, to put it another way, Canadian health care is equal only in its shared scarcity.
When asked whether he was worried about being known as the man who helped bring down his country’s universal health-care system, Mr. Zeliotis told the Toronto Star, “No way. I’m the guy saving it.” If the Canadian ruling can open American eyes to the limitations of government-run health care, Mr. Zeliotis’s hip just might end up saving the U.S. system too.
More on the climate change bill we don’t need.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_062609/content/01125106.guest.html
Well the dims just pulled Patrick Kennedy out of rehad to vote for the energy bill they are trying to force through. How lowwwww can they go?
The Health Care reform now being crafted does not prohibit private, for profit insurance and a single payer system is not part of the program. so the four-year old, unattributed article above is irrelevant to us.
Furthermore: “More than two years after Quebec legalized private medical coverage for select surgeries, the insurance industry says it has not sold a single policy.” http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2009/03/30/mtl-health-insurance-interest-0330.html
‘We have such a good access to the surgeries in Quebec that the industry knows they won’t be able to sell any insurance to anybody.’
—Yves Bolduc, Quebec’s health minister
DavidB — It doesnt matter what you post, the CONS will fight health care for everybody tooth and nail, cause they really dont give a damn… AND… it’s easy to copy/paste from WND.com LOL
Look what one of the Canadians wrote in response to to the atricle I quote:
“The US system is a disgrace, only the rich get adequate care, or the absolutely poverty stricken. The US spends 16% of GDP on health care, we spend around 6%. 47 MILLION Americans have NO medical insurance! Doctors and physicians in the USA, have bigger and better boats and vacation homes than those in Canada. But, we have dedicated health care operatives (I speak from experience) of whom I am sure, we are most proud of. Let’s give a large round of applause to our caring Canadians, we love you!. And as has been said, if you don’t like the service, go South or somewhere else, that will leave a spot for someone who appreciates what we have. Believe me, I have firsthand experience of both the US and British systems, and unless you are filthy rich, they DON’T WORK. Especially our Southern neighbors. Been a Tory all my life, but, if Mr Harper or anyone else depletes our National System, then goodbye votes.”
The Canadians pity us…
DavidB
Posted June 26, 2009 at 6:33 pm | Permalink
Look what one of the Canadians wrote in response to to the atricle I quote:
“The US system is a disgrace, only the rich get adequate care, or the absolutely poverty stricken. The US spends 16% of GDP on health care, we spend around 6%. 47 MILLION Americans have NO medical insurance! Doctors and physicians in the USA, have bigger and better boats and vacation homes than those in Canada. But, we have dedicated health care operatives (I speak from experience) of whom I am sure, we are most proud of. Let’s give a large round of applause to our caring Canadians, we love you!. And as has been said, if you don’t like the service, go South or somewhere else, that will leave a spot for someone who appreciates what we have. Believe me, I have firsthand experience of both the US and British systems, and unless you are filthy rich, they DON’T WORK. Especially our Southern neighbors. Been a Tory all my life, but, if Mr Harper or anyone else depletes our National System, then goodbye votes.”
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hahahaha!
Let’s see, all of my cousins have great health care from their companies. My parents, my sisters and other relatives. People I’ve visited in hospital from my church, acquaintances and many others.
Exactly what country do you live in where only the wealthy get great health care?
EXTRA!! EXTRA!! Regular’s Family has good health care!! Read all about it!!! The words of the self-professed expert on ANYthing has spoken, thus, it must be true!!! /sarcasm off
38 percent of people earning over 50,000 dollars per year do not carry health insurance.
House passes cap and trade!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If we can provide you a free ride Regular, I think the country can afford to help me have health care.
House Passes Milestone Energy, Climate Change Bill
Fox News
The House of Representatives Friday approved a milestone energy and climate change bill that would curb greenhouse gasses omitted by industry and agriculture.
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Yeah BlueJay – just don’t come crying to anyone when the cost of food, heating and cooling and fuel in general skyrocket out of control.
I’m already moderating my use of those things carefully. Just as we all should. NOW it’s past time on relying on good will out of people who don’t have any.
National Public Art Review
Date: June 25, 2009
Contact: Tabitha Meyer, Arts & Culture Communications
Free Lecture to be Held at CityArts
The public is invited to attend a “National Public Art Review” lecture and presentation at 11:30 a.m. on July 10 at CityArts. The presentation, led by John D’Angelo, will review public art on a national level and will discuss innovative public art projects from across the U.S as well as the importance of integration of art in public projects for economic development and quality of life.
Attendees are encouraged to bring a brownbag lunch and reserve their seat by calling (316) 462-2787 Ext. 797. Reservations should be made by July 9.
John D’Angelo has been with the City of Wichita for more than 30 years and currently serves as the Director of Arts & Cultural Services Division. John is actively engaged in the arts community on a local and national level. He is an executive member of the Urban Arts Federation of Arts Councils that represents the 50 largest U.S. cities. He is State Captain for American for the Arts and represents Kansas on national arts issues. Currently the Division houses the Arts Council, Cultural Funding Committee and City of Wichita Design Council as well as oversees the operational needs of CityArts, the Mid-America All-Indian Center, Century II Performing Arts and Convention Center and Old Cowtown Museum.
Wow.. imagine having a majority in the House and actually using it for progress…. wooohooo
WOW — I actually didnt think that would pass…. WEG Congress!!
WTG even
It’s a bold move.
“Bout time. We’ve only been pushing back serious consideration of our energy use about 35 years now.
And they did this against con radio having their mindless drones pester the House all week.
It’s still gotta pass the Senate..
HAHAA::
Hoping to stem what seemed increasingly like a Democratic victory, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) deployed an infrequently used parliamentary procedure to delay the bill’s consideration – reading before the House a 300-page amendment that had been offered to the 1,200-page bill Friday morning.
After an hour of reading the text derisively, Boehner finally surrendered the floor. A raucous Democratic caucus quickly asked for vote to be taken…
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DavidB
Posted June 26, 2009 at 7:13 pm | Permalink
Wow.. imagine having a majority in the House and actually using it for progress…. wooohooo
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What progress?
It will be the same results as what occurred in Europe and Japan.
Higher Taxes and co2 levels that have increased, not gone down.
It seems progress is possible in reducing emissions…
December 03, 2008
Germany has cut its greenhouse gas emissions to below levels required under the Kyoto Protocol on climate change, the government in Berlin said recently.
Europe’s biggest economy’s CO2 emissions, which are blamed for causing global warming, last year came in at 22.4 per cent below Kyoto’s base years of 1990 and 1995, the environment ministry said in a statement.
At 957 million tons, total CO2 emissions last year were 2.3 per cent lower than in 2006, the ministry said.
Europe Fails Kyoto Standards as Trading Scheme Helps Polluters
Five years later, the 25-nation EU is failing to meet the Kyoto Protocol’s carbon-dioxide emission standards. Rather than help protect the environment, the trading system has led to increases in electricity prices of more than 50 percent and record profits for RWE AG and other utilities.
At least 12 of the 25 EU nations are at risk of missing their Kyoto pledge, according to EU estimates. Among the 15 original EU members, 11 are unlikely to meet the pollution standards, including Germany, Italy and Spain, three of Europe’s five largest economies.
Power companies made richer by Kyoto
Rather than hurt profits at power producers, the program became a justification for higher electricity prices, as the cost of carbon pollution got passed on to consumers.
In Germany, Europe’s largest economy, average wholesale electricity prices for delivery the next day surged 61 percent last year. The U.K.’s gain was 66 percent. Both jumps were larger than the 46 percent increase in Brent crude oil.
Regular copy/pastes from an old July 2006 column. . .
Yes Reg I am sure this is the kind of change David and Jr. were wanting. Not sure what David’s agenda is but Jr just want anyone with more than him to be punished. That would be most people in Wichta or the country.
Lets hope the senate has better sense than the house.
Houses pauses for moment of silence for twice charged child molestor.
Pretty much tells you were our country is heading.
oooops — WTG House!! :-)
Why didnt they have moments of silence for Ed and Farah, too?? I’m a tad bit upset by that… already wrote my congress people earlier…
Ok, how do you turn than darn narrator off in vista! The things annoying.
Progress seems possible….
The growth of global carbon dioxide emissions fell by half in 2008, according to data released today. The global recession and high oil prices played a major role in reducing the rate of emissions. But measures to tackle global warming by cutting emissions such as renewable energy were only partly responsible. The data from the Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency (NEAA) also show that, for the first time, CO2 emissions from the developing world account for more than half of the global total.
Analysis from the NEAA draws on fossil fuel consumption figures published last week by BP. It shows that the rise in the world’s emissions from fossil fuel burning and cement production in 2008 was just 1.7 per cent, compared to 3.3 per cent in 2007.
http://www.businessgreen.com/business-green/news/2244939/growth-global-carbon-emissions
Energy Bill debate tape now on C-SPAN.. can’t wait to see “Boner”reading for an hour…
” can’t wait to see “Boner”reading for an hour…”
Yeah and those 216 boneheads who voted AYE without reading it.
Didn’t GWorstPresidentEverBush propose a carbon tax as a candidate?
Why, yes, yes, he did.
September 29, 2000: Presidential Candidate Bush Promises to Clean-Up Power Plants and Reduce CO2 Emissions
Presidential candidate George W. Bush unveils an environmental plan that would require power plants to reduce emissions of four main pollutants. If elected, Bush says he will propose legislation requiring “electric utilities to reduce emissions and significantly improve air quality.” Specifically, he promises to “work with Congress, the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Energy, consumer and environmental groups, and industry to develop legislation that will establish mandatory reduction targets for emissions of four main pollutants: sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxide, mercury, and carbon dioxide.” [GeorgeWBush.Com, 9/29/2000]
Bush will break that promise within two months of taking office (see March 1, 2001, March 8, 2001, and March 13, 2001).
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Correction: it wasn’t a carbon tax, just a reduction of CO2
Capn where you been hiding. I asked you some questions today about that great Canadian healthcare. It seems their supreme court doesn’t think it is so great. In fact they said that people were dying because of it. That waiting period were way to long. In other words it was failing their people.
Tell me again why we want that failed system as the model for the healthcare the libs want for the US.
You had a lot to say about it the other day. Even bragged on the Canadian plan.
I’ll ck in tomorrow for your well thought out answer. It is my bedtime.
BTW Obama is the prez now. Bush is back in Texas. Hard to grasp I know but true none the less.
Actually, OKO, I was part of a project this afternoon to gather signatures for universal health care.
Sorry I wasn’t around to answer your questions.
good night; good luck; god bless –
whatever you conceive god to be….
blessings all….
blessings on the sanctity of our environment…
so mote it be!!
In fact they said that people were dying because of it.
Yeah, I saw that in the Times.
Funny, you CONs don’t seem to be concerned about the Americans who are dying because they don’t have health care.
BTW, England had long waiting times too for awhile and then — BEHOLD! — they revamped their system and now the waiting times are shorter than they are here.
There are a lot of gov’t run models out there . . . well, in fact, they’re ALL gov’t run except for ours.
Germany uses private insurance in fact but
1. all basic health insurance is non-profit.
2. everybody must have insurance.
3. insurance companies cannot cherry-pick healthy patients with no “pre-existing conditions.”
and
4. gov’t controls costs.
The US already has gov’t run healthcare.
The VA and Medicare are like the single-payer Canadian and UK system.
Cap’n,
When we do finally get a universal healthcare system, and it works, how much ya wanna bet the republicans try to claim it was their idea all along?
More on that great CanadaCare the libs trot out all of the time.
“TORONTO, June 9 – The Canadian Supreme Court struck down a Quebec law banning private medical insurance today, dealing an acute blow to the publicly financed national health care system.
The court stopped short of striking down the constitutionality of the country’s vaunted nationwide coverage, but legal experts said the ruling would open the door to a wave of lawsuits challenging the health care system in other provinces.
The system, providing Canadians with free doctor’s services that are paid for by taxes, has generally been supported by the public, and is broadly identified with the Canadian national character.
But in recent years, patients have been forced to wait longer for diagnostic tests and elective surgery, while the wealthy and well connected either seek care in the United States or use influence to jump ahead on waiting lists.
The court ruled that the waiting lists had become so long that they violated patients’ “liberty, safety and security” under the Quebec charter, which covers about one-quarter of Canada’s population.
“The evidence in this case shows that delays in the public health care system are widespread and that in some serious cases, patients die as a result of waiting lists for public health care,” the Supreme Court ruled. “In sum, the prohibition on obtaining private health insurance is not constitutional where the public system fails to deliver reasonable services.”
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CapnAmerica
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In fact they said that people were dying because of it.
Yeah, I saw that in the Times.
Funny, you CONs don’t seem to be concerned about the Americans who are dying because they don’t have health care.
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Well Cap if you saw that in the Times then you know it was a finding of the Canadian Supreme Court. Those ‘cons’ seem to be everywhere. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
As for the care in England – Would this be the one who refused care for breast cancer because they wouldn’t approve the use of the most effective chemo. You know the one which actually saves lifes. It was too expensive. Go figure.
Yep that the healthcare we all need. Right Cap.
I would say it would work for you because according to you you are rich enough to find good healthcare somewhere but the US is that ‘good healthcare’ others come here for. It won’t be here anymore.
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