In a Wall Street Journal column headlined “Red State Story,” Thomas Frank ponders the shock of pro-life leaders at suggestions that their movement could be associated with the murder of George Tiller. The reason for their surprise? “The culture wars are not meant to be taken seriously,” he writes. “Yes, right-wing invective dabbles in nightmare visions of treason and conspiracy and rampant paganism and a homegrown holocaust right here on Main Street, USA. Yes, it ritually denounces liberals as members of a class fundamentally alien to the American way of life. But these are the ingredients of entertainment, not politics.
“Culture war makes you feel noble and heroic. It sells books, it drives up the ratings of ‘The O’Reilly Factor,’ it brings in millions in direct-mail contributions — but everybody knows you can’t make Hollywood change its ways by walking the streets of Wichita carrying a sign deploring the ‘culture of death.’”
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Surprise! Another Tiller thread…
blah blah right wing
blah blah blood hands
blah blah hate speech
blah blah blah blah
It may be phony in the media, but try to tell some of the Pro-Life groups that it’s phony. The guy who shot Tiller was probably wanting to be famous. I can’t even think of his name. Roeder??? Idk. I don’t think he should be associated with Pro-Lifers. He should more be associated with the lone crazed gunmen that killed John Lennon, shot Regan, assassinated Kennedy and etc.
Here’s Frank Rich’s take –
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/14/opinion/14rich.html
Who care what Frank Rich thinks or writes….the New York Times and Rich’s contribution don’t even make decent toilet paper.
“Bocklock20″ –
I think Frank Rich has a tad more credibility than you, who think Thomas Jefferson was President of the United states from January 20, 1777 – January 20, 1781.
I don’t think that about Jefferson’s presidency at all….and never did. I simply posted a comment someone else make.
If you can’t figure that out…..well never mind, you can’t figure anything out.
“Boxlock20″ whines –
“I simply posted a comment someone else make.”
And you admitted you hadn’t even read it!
The central theme was not the term of Jefferson’s presidency. That really had absolutely nothing to do with the content of the post. Even if I had noticed it I would not lower myself to making something of it or alter what someone else had written.
Not so are petty people like yourself that seem to have nothing more to contribute.
Typical CON… accurate facts are “petty.”
Boxlock make another factual error in posting?
Well, I suppose that is not as bad as his usual outright lie or half baked hoax.
A PERFECT example of your average “culture warrior”.
Culture war. As if there is only one viable culture in this land of many peoples and traditions.
“Culture warrior”= busybody
Such folk need to either get laid or remove whatever they have jammed up their rear.
Funny that since Wilson’s success in policy centered around war unity (otherwise known as “war socialism”), the left’s adopted calling whatever their latest social push a “war on ____”), like LBJ’s “war on poverty” for example. Global Warming is the latest “war”. But if a Conservative takes up their same strategy…well, he/she’s just being “phony”.
““Culture war makes you feel noble and heroic.”
More like self righteous and relevant.
Culture warrior: “Merry Christmas, dammit!”
A leader of a ‘minute man’ anti-immigrant organization in Pima County, Arizona has been arrested along with two other people and charged with murder after a home invasion and attempted robbery left a Hispanic man and his nine-year-old daughter dead.
“One lone nut.”
Right.
murder after a home invasion and attempted robbery
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Sounds like self defense, although I don’t think a nine year old can carry anything more than perhaps a toaster so that was over-kill.
A leader of a ‘minute man’ anti-immigrant organization…
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Slick, actually it’s anti-illegal immigrant.
Grasseater says-
Posted June 14, 2009 at 10:11 am | Permalink
““Culture war makes you feel noble and heroic.”
More like self righteous and relevant.”"
This from the badass who said about Tillers murder.
“looks like the culture war just went hot. I say good”
…or should I say The schizophrenic Grasseater.
Monkey”boy”
If you read up on that so-called “minuteman” you would find that she was shunned by the vast majority of Minuteman organizations. They felt she was dangerously crazy. A loose cannon.
” it ritually denounces liberals as members of a class fundamentally alien to the American way of life.”
I resemble that remark. Many liberal leaders were in fact born 9 months after an alien spacecraft crashed in the United States.
Thomas Frank is an incredibly bitter and self righteous bore. He has contempt for America, Kansas, Kansans and especially second rate Kansas newspaper editors.
Take away his thesaurus and he’d just be another profane nitwit on the left.
I Find it rather amusing that our local esteemed editors use him as a ‘go to man’ so often.
Monkey and BlueJay,
Well, you are both exhibiting your selves as pompous asses again this morning.
As explained, the subject post I pasted in had nothing to do with the years of Jefferson’s presidency, but about social security of which he had nothing to do with, and that those years listed were not put in there by me but the author.
Now you are saying you would site what another author had said and change it around yourself and that I am guilty of something because I realized it was totally unimportant, an unimportant date not even central to the subjects discussion.
Shows how petty you guys are.
It also shows you have nothing better to argue with than that.
Perhaps Thomas Frank was “knocked up” by baseball’s Alex Rodriguez” in a gender role switching conference.
Culture wars?
I’m not no danged war-mongress. Hell, I can find truth in a recently-published essay even while the author subtly denigrates pro choice folk as nonexistent and illusory.
I can agonize through a funeral and respect its timeless rituals, even while weeping for my own loss of faith.
I can wish for a time capsule, so I could travel back in time to 1975, seek the assistance of a then-33-year-old Wichita physician, and take part in his adoption program. As evidenced by the countless letters of love and appreciation adoring his clinic, Dr. Tiller wasn’t possessed of an uncaring attitude and disinterested demeanor.
I can harbor these deep, abiding regrets with no judgement whatsoever upon others. I don’t wanna kill my own abortionist so’s I can share a cell with Shelley S. (S–t – I’d almost rather share a cell with my impregnator and listen to Mariah Heep and read “High Times” for the rest of me days….)
Me, a warmongering wastrel? Cain’t see that at all. That would make me real, real ugly. And evidently the kind soul who waited on me one hour ago couldn’t see it either…..
FilmFan – by “Mariah Heep”…did you mean “Uriah Heep”…70’s/early 80’s rock band? You’re a wonderful writer, so had to take my one shot at playing ombudsman on your piece…:)
Wow, I guess we are going to keep getting more and more of these Tiller threads until he’s not dead anymore.
Oh well, they still keep getting the hits.
” more and more of these Tiller threads”
Boxlock we need a contest. What will the next Killer Tiller thread be?
1. The state of abortions post Tiller?
2. The Tiller family
3. The evil cons and their impact
etc.,etc.,etc.,etc.,etc.,etcetc.,etc.,etetc.,etc.,c.,etc.,.,
“Boxlock20″ carps –
“…we are going to keep getting more and more of these Tiller threads…”
And why not?
After all, Doctor Tiller practiced in Wichita from January 20, 1771 to January 20, 1781.
Filmfan you paint a real perty pitcher. But lets put some truth in it. In the summer of mercy that really put Tiller in the spotlight nationally – How many remember the first couple to cross the line. It was a thirtyish white married couple. She was seven months pregnant and they both appeared on the Phil Donohue Show the next day.
Their story went like this. They had two children already and had now decided to split the sheets – or divorce. This expected child now was an inconvenience. And ‘oh no, we could never give it up for adoption, I can’t imagine letting someone else raise my child’.
So killing a viable child of two white parents, the most adoptable children at that time was alright – in fact was the choice of the day. Choose killing over adoption. Yep that makes lots of sense.
This was when I realized abortion was a plague upon our country.
Oh I forgot the thread about the culture. It is the devalueing of human life that I believe has fostered the abuse of the elderly. Led young people to think life isn’t important so if someone gets in your way just pop them. Allowed child abuse to fester in our society because after all if you can kill your babies why can’t you hit your children or worse.
The point of Monkey’s last post is that a man practicing
medicineabortion, bringing death to thousands of developing babies, over many years was murdered and that is news worthy.The point was not the incorrect years listed so much, although maybe more so than if he listed the years Tiller was in medical school incorrectly or some other trivial aspect, not worth correcting him on.
“Boxlock20″ –
Does the phrase “I took you to school!” ring a bell?
You can dish “petty” out but you sure can’t take it.
As I recall, you were braying that you took “BlueJay” to school every day on WE Blog from January 20, 1777 to January 20, 1781.
(I may be off a bit on the dates, but you get the point.)
“Thomas Frank is an incredibly bitter and self righteous bore.”
I have met Thomas Frank and I have several times met (mostly against my own will) “HLP”.
I found Mr. Frank witty and engaging. I found Hank cranky and pompous.
“This from the badass who said about Tillers murder.
“looks like the culture war just went hot. I say good”
That’s right you paper pushing desk jockey. You can have your religion and your beliefs all you want. But you keep them in your hearts, churches or under your bed and off of me.
“BlueJay” reveals –
“I found Hank cranky and pompous.”
All that will change next Sunday when the boy gives “HLP” is very own ComfortWipe, solving what’s obviously a butt-ooze problem Hank’s suffering from.
An article in the WSJ (print version of Faux Noise) points out we shouldn’t take O’Reilly seriously. What a curious assumption. Obviously people do for some strange reason. Meanwhile Glen Beck sheds more tears as he tells people to arm up and take our country back from “them” and Hannity twists every word said by anyone he doesn’t agree with. Culture wars my ___, it’s more like malign for money.
Grasseater says – “That’s right you paper pushing desk jockey. You can have your religion and your beliefs all you want. But you keep them in your hearts, churches or under your bed and off of me.”
Lets use something here from Hank- (sorry Hank) “Blue Jay is an incredibly bitter and self righteous bore.”
I was just pointing out your severe level of hypocrisy dude. And you bolstered it.
And we don’t push paper, we push electrons. Twenty First Century schiitte dontcha know? Ones and zero’s. Computer stuff.
And Hanks right about Franks. He’s so divorced from the world, living in some kind of progressive fairy land, he can’t understand why some folks prefer to do for themselves rather than lick the boot of some government overlord for their daily bread.
Grasseater.
Show me one time I’ve ever pushed my religion on you. Or anyone on this blog.
Go dig, waste your time. You won’t find it. I don’t do that.
I’ve pushed issues, and while my stance on one or two of those issues may be partially based in my moral beliefs I don’t argue religion here. Period.
Back in the 90’s I was caught up in the culture wars over Gun control. I would have taken Beck as a speaker of truth and would have not ever questioned a thing he said. I bought into the crap and a lie being spread about Clinton is doing this and Clinton is passing a law about that. Only years later to come to find out that many of the laws that was said to be Clinton’s had been passed by Reagan and G.H. Bush!
The Politicians and fund raisers for political campaigns know that these created hot button issue will get them votes and money. All that needs to be said it that they are offended and want to do something about Abortion either for or against, guns either for or against and what has became the ever popular cause of the day Religion.
The supporters of G.W. Bush who are Neo-Conservatives made a pact with the Religious Right. What is odd about that is that the Neo-Conservatives does not believe in religion other then as a tool to be used to control the masses. They need the numbers of the foolish faithful who thought in Bush they had their President. We have seen how that worked out huh?
The truth is that if in deed there ever was a sincere attempt to disarm the American public.
If there were any serious attempt to restrict or ban worship of God.
If there we’re to banned abortion.
If they had the means to bring about Socialism.
Every Politician knows there would be open warfare.
The culture wars are nothing more then tools to control and fool the citizens.
They feed the partisanship because if we ever actually stopped to see what they do. We would be uncontrollable. These things are nothing more then to play on ignorance.
Simple issues for us the unwashed masses to play with and be shiny objects to hold our attention.
Remember both Republicans and Democratic politicians think you are too stupid to understand the real issues. So here are some toys children go play in the corners and leave the adults alone to do the real work!
Pro-life candidates could not care less about the unborn and pro-gay marriage candidates do not care if Gay ever do get married. Pro-gun rights Candidates actually do not want you to have a gun because one day you might use them on them.
Mean while what they see as nothing more than a tool to get votes is taken as so serious that some buy into the garbage that the talking heads spew and turn to deathly force. The Liberals can point finger now until the day that some Anti-Global warming group turns to using bombs, setting fires and killing those they see as the major causes of Global warming.
The Culture wars will not stop until it stops being a moneymaker and a vote getter.
Until we the people actually stop being so foolish that we see the fools that we are being made of by the social issues.
The Republican Party is at a crossroad, to continue to be solely the party of the select social issues of the Culture wars means the death of the party. Anti-gay marriage and pro-life is an albatross around the party’s neck and has turned into an anchor. Both being an individual’s choices and not in line with the Republicans concepts of smaller government and personal freedom. You can not stand for the government does not have the right to be involved in the citizen private life and continue to dictate into the most private parts of life.
As an individual you have a right to believe what they will and stand for what they believe. But this is none of the Republican party’s business.
The Democrats do not have the right to dictate about private gun ownership nor do they have a right to see everything under the sun as a possible tax to be placed. You can not see ever ill, as a cause to champion to the point that government is a big brother to control every aspect of life. The Pro-choice in their attempt to safeguard choice often belittles and makes the cause superficial. You have no more right to judge pro-life then you do to judge those who do not believe as you do. Lumping all those of faith as being raving religious nuts is insulting to everyone of faith. I am of faith and not a nut wanting to take away abortion rights or to not allow Gays to be married. You are also insulting those of faith that are supportive of many of the same causes you would champion. Religion is not a Republican or Democratic matter, it is a matter of personal faith. Sadly there are a select few who rap themselves in the clock of God in order to justify and cover their personal bias. Forgetting that it really is a personal relationship and not a social mandate!
If I have left anyone out or any cause to champion left me know.
There absolutely IS a culture war, and it is being fought daily in our own house and senate. Trust me, these advocates of back alley abortions and women who are second-class citizens are up in Topeka whittling away at our rights every day.
Trust you PMomma? I don’t think so.
Cultural war my a*s.
“Cultural war my a*s.”
Your people started it. You take it up with them.
You may not like the trend of individual liberties and an embrace of societal obligation. In any case, here it is.
Monkey,
I did take BlueJ to school, but alas, he doesn’t learn.
As I have said, I posted what someone else wrote as a copy and paste, I read it, but the fact that the dates of the presidency of Thomas Jefferson was not the central issue, and in fact wasn’t even pertinent, didn’t concern me or even catch my attention because it was NOT relevant.
So what’s your beef, simply that you can’t argue a valid point…..I think so.
Monkey, I don’t agree with you on much, but I at least have you credit for thinking and making points….not on this at all.
“I did take BlueJ to school”
No, you agreed to meet me…
and punked out.
I took cons to school and showed them you are not a reliable ally. They got the lesson.
That’s why you have no one here bawks. You’ve no friends, your enemies don’t respect you.
All you have is your posts and THEY speak volumes about you.
You’re little more than nothing on the way to being nothing.
Lie, equivocate, spin and dodge bawks.
Your word here means nothing and I am happy I helped prove it.
“As I have said, I posted what someone else wrote as a copy and paste”
JUST as you did when you “broke” the “McCain supporter mutilated by black Obama supporter!” story bawks?
Well hell, you’re a salesman and make nothing but money telling lies and selling crap.
Dignifying you by meeting me was the best shot you ever had on this blog.
“Boxlock20″ –
If it “…wasn’t even pertinent…” why post it at all?
But as I recall, the vaunted point of your post was something like this:
“The last good Democrat [sic] president.”
You cited Thomas Jefferson who, technically, was a member of the Democratic Republican Party.
You cited his term of the presidency as:
“January 20, 1777 to January 20, 1781.”
Which, of course, is absurd on so many levels. For one thing, all presidents through FDR were inaugurated in the month of March. January 20th came later.
Oh, and there was no President of the United States between 1777 and 1781. Any fifth-grader should know that. They don’t just “go to school,” they actually learn stuff you didn’t.
Then, you try to tag the third President of the United States with a line that actually originated with Gerald R. Ford.
Now, as a matter of utter propaganda, I think you’d rather attribute a slogan to Jefferson instead of that giant of a political thinker from Michigan, Jerry Ford.
So here’s what I have to work with, “Boxlock20.”
You based your entire cut-and-post on not knowing (admitting you hadn’t even read it all, even) what it was you posted.
For what purpose, “Boxlock20?”
And then you spend the day whining that I’m “petty.”
You’ve spent months strutting that you “…took (”BlueJay”) ‘to school!’” by simply being a no-show for an appointment you committed to.
So you are unreliable with personal commitments. You post stuff that’s not factual. You’re called on it and you have nothing to do but try to rationalize and squirm some modicum of virtual dignity in this forum.
As with so many other threads on WE Blog, I can only say, “Keep doin’ whatcher doin’, CONs.”
You are petty Monkey, the point of the post, which I didn’t write was that the Dims have done more to harm Social Security than anyone.
The dates of Jefferson’s presidency have nothing to do with that and that quote is attributed to Jefferson far more widely than Ford.
As I said, I am not going to change what someone else wrote in a copy and paste.
You are quite petty to make what you are trying to from it and I and most know why….you are petty.
“Dignifying you by meeting me was the best shot you ever had on this blog.”
To laugh, to laugh.
BlueJay,
I’m not going to meet some a**/hole in a parking lot in the middle of winter, and for what purpose.
You continued to make challenges repeatedly like a damn high school kid high on hormones.
And for what reason….to impress a les/bian of all things.
Now just what kind of idiot would be challenged into that….not me, that’s for sure.
You aren’t worth meeting anywhere at anytime.
Oh, and BlueJay….I didn’t get punked out….you got punked.
I was warm and comfortable working and getting my car serviced while you, you idiot school kid, was standing in a parking lot looking around as confused as you truly are.
As I said….it is to laugh.
I’ll laugh last.
Me and folks like me. See? Because for us, it aint about getting rich.
It is about doing the correct (not right) thing.
Get out of my way old man. Else me and mine will run ya over,
On second thought? Don’t. Rolling over you and yours will be my distinct pleasure.
You had your chance at the one on one bawks.
I was there, you were not.
You COULD have evangelized to me or otherwise stood up for yourself and what you believe.
But you were a no show.
And that IS all you hold dear isn’t it? All blow and no show?
You will lose. You will lose because you are dishonest in your objectives and personally devoted more to yourself than your country.
HLP
Posted June 14, 2009 at 12:07 pm | Permalink
Thomas Frank is an incredibly bitter and self righteous bore. He has contempt for America, Kansas, Kansans and especially second rate Kansas newspaper editors.
Take away his thesaurus and he’d just be another profane nitwit on the left.
I Find it rather amusing that our local esteemed editors use him as a ‘go to man’ so often
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“profane nitwit”? – I don’t think you know who you’re talking about Mr. Price. Thomas Frank doesn’t use profanity. But go ahead, don’t let ignorance prevent you from sharing your
“informed” views.
“You COULD have evangelized to me or otherwise stood up for yourself and what you believe.
But you were a no show.
You will lose. You will lose because you are dishonest in your objectives and personally devoted more to yourself than your country.”—BlowJ
BlowJ you don’t devote any time to either, yourself or country, and you have already lost, that is clear.
What could I have possibly gotten out of meeting with you…nothing.
You were issuing multiple challenges that I continued to ignore until I got sick of it and decided to let you waste your time like you were then, and are, wasting mine.
BlueJ, asking someone to meet you in a parking lot so you can set them straight according to your thinking is just plain juvenile. I haven’t responded to childish things like that since I was in 8th grade, and won’t.
And this business about Jefferson’s term in office is juvenile too. That post was about social security, the subject had really nothing to do with Jefferson but the copy and paste I used stuck a reference to a misquote in there and I didn’t pay any attention to it, but so what, it had nothing to do with anything except to jerks that can find nothing more important to harp on.
“Boxlock20″ –
You told “BlueJay” you would be there.
You lied.
That makes you a liar.
You cut-and-posted stuff you admit you hadn’t read. For what purpose?
If you have no reason to read what you post, why should anyone else bother?
Boxlock.
You got JR out of the house for an afternoon. He probably had to pay bus fair, take a shower, and maybe even shave. He may have invested in some instrument of self-defense to carry with him. He had to log off his computer.
Nice move.
“American_Way” –
“Boxlock20″ said he would be there.
He lied.
“Boxlock20″ is a liar.
Whatever Monkeyhawk.
Now for the next six months, you and your crew of trolls will follow Boxlock around and call him a liar. And you will be just like my 5 year old niece who says,
“Liar, liar, pants on fire.”
So let it be written so let it be done.
American_Way,
I have told Monkey until I am blue in the face that I did not agree to meet BlueJay until he had challenged me at least half a dozen times and started calling “coward” when I would ignore him.
What kind of ‘grown-up’ issues challenges like that, and what kind would ever agree to it. To agree would be just as asinine. I am under no obligation to either meet BJ’s demands or to continue to listen to his ranting about it.
So I finally said ‘where’ and…..get this, he says “Dillion’s parking lot, noon”. Like out of a bad movie.
I fully intended to set him up to let him show up and know he better mature a little unless he wants to spend time like that.
It worked, except both BJ and Monkey are too ignorant to know he was punked.
“He may have invested in some instrument of self-defense to carry with him. He had to log off his computer.
Nice move.”—American_Way
Your part about “some instrument of self-defense”, I am CCW and one thing I would never do is abuse that right or to jeopardize keeping it. One of the best defenses is to not get into situations that may go out of control if possible, and I think EVERYONE can attest that BlowJ is usually out of control.
“BlueJ, asking someone to meet you in a parking lot so you can set them straight according to your thinking is just plain juvenile.”
If you say so. I borrowed the tactic from Hank “American way” Price aka HLP.
And I never promised to set you straight.
No miracle worker me.
I asked you to say to my face some of the stuff you say here with a straight face. You were not up to it. You couldn’t even keep up a consistent lie about it.
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BlueJay
Posted June 15, 2009 at 9:54 am | Permalink
“BlueJ, asking someone to meet you in a parking lot so you can set them straight according to your thinking is just plain juvenile.”
If you say so. I borrowed the tactic from Hank “American way” Price aka HLP.
And I never promised to set you straight.
No miracle worker me.
I asked you to say to my face some of the stuff you say here with a straight face. You were not up to it. You couldn’t even keep up a consistent lie about it.
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Drive-by BlueJay has no ballz, he refused to meet me face to face.
“Your part about “some instrument of self-defense”, I am CCW and one thing I would never do is abuse that right or to jeopardize keeping it. One of the best defenses is to not get into situations that may go out of control…”
I THINK you said..”I may have become frustrated and angry enough just talking with BlueJay that I might have felt the need to pull my gun and shoot him.” Is that right?
“he refused to meet me face to face.”
No, I just did it on my own terms. Gimp.
“Boxlock20″ offers –
“What kind of ‘grown-up’ issues challenges like that, and what kind would ever agree to it.
Uhm…
“That kind” would be you, “Boxlock20.”
You said you’d be there.
You were lying.
That pretty much makes you a liar.
At least “HLP” agreed to join me for lunch — twice — and had the common decency to back out of those agreed meet-ups publicly.
You, on the otherhand “Boxlock20,” merely lied then spent months with your “I took you to school!” rants.
(As I recall it’s gone on as long as “January 20, 1777 to January 20, 1781.”)
You lie, “Boxlock20.”
You cut-and-post stuff you haven’t read.
You’re about as screwball as any CON who participates in this forum.
Perhaps to rehabilitate your credibility you should start posting to WE Blog all over again with yet another nym.
(Maybe “Boxlock21″ isn’t taken. That’ll fool us.)
I did take the childish fool, to school and as I said he seems too dumb to pick up on it.
“I THINK you said..”I may have become frustrated and angry enough just talking with BlueJay that I might have felt the need to pull my gun and shoot him.” Is that right?”—BlowJ
Now that is a lie, a bold face lie, ha.
You can call what I did to BlowJ lying if you so choose, it makes no difference to me really.
I got the stupid challenges stopped, exactly what I was looking to do.
BlowJ set it up, and then stepped in his own trap, with simply a little guidance from me.
“(Maybe “Boxlock21? isn’t taken. That’ll fool us.)”–the monkey
With you….I KNOW IT WOULD!!
“If you say so. I borrowed the tactic from Hank “American way” Price aka HLP.”
Sorry, you will find zero posts from me, American Way setting up a meet. Zilch. Nada.
Now you are still playing childish games and implying that I am Hank…
Grow up JR. Be an SR.
“If you say so. I borrowed the tactic from Hank “American way” Price aka HLP.”
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Who, in your ‘mind’ BlueJay, isn’t HLP?
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ANTI
Posted June 15, 2009 at 10:52 am | Permalink
“If you say so. I borrowed the tactic from Hank “American way” Price aka HLP.”
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Who, in your ‘mind’ BlueJay, isn’t HLP?
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LMAO!
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BlueJay
Posted June 15, 2009 at 9:59 am | Permalink
“he refused to meet me face to face.”
No, I just did it on my own terms. Gimp.
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Yeah, Remil, in your truck 50 feet away on slow cruise.
(smirks)
Weird…culture war’s “phoney”, but in ‘71, Elton John released “Levon”, with lyrics as follows:
He was born a pauper to a pawn on a Christmas Day,
When the New York Times said God is dead,
And the war’s begun
Alvin Tostig has a son today.
Guess it must be phoney, after all, the NYT declared God is Dead on Christmas Day…I’m sure that was just pure civic love…or maybe as realistic as the pompatous of love.