Another sign that Kansas means business on wind

turbine8Even Kansans mad about the approval of a coal-fired plant in western Kansas should be pleased by the deal reached to build ultra high-voltage power lines from Wichita to Dodge City by 2013. Both Prairie Wind Transmission and ITC Great Plains, which had been competing for the $800 million project, have agreed to work on the 765 kilovolt transmission lines, which would be the first west of the Mississippi River. “We absolutely must have a way to move the great wind energy source that we have in western Kansas to eastern Kansas and beyond,” said Gov. Mark Parkinson, in announcing the deal. Regulatory and cost hurdles remain, but the deal further demonstrates that Kansas is ready to get on with its goal of becoming a wind energy powerhouse.
Meanwhile, a new government climate status report released Tuesday warned that global warming’s serious effects are already here and getting worse.

16 Comments

  1. American_Way
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    “Even Kansans mad about the approval of a coal-fired plant in western Kansas ”

    Yeah, throw them a bone. Make them “feel like we are being green.

  2. DFB
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    Amway – those mad Kansans must’ve been the ones mad that Sunflower is building transmission lines too…with their own money…so W Kansas wind energy has somewhere to get sold out of state…you know since it’s a sin to sell coal fired energy out of state…

  3. American_Way
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    Right DFB, we have to have those nasty transmission lines. There is also that far off possibility that the wind might not be blowing during a peak period.
    I’ve heard that some people expect to have electricity regardless of when the wind is blowing.

  4. DFB
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    Well, Amway, the good news is..at least it still costs more per kwh than coal…and that’s after being subsidized 2 cents per kwh with tax money & mandated into existence & given prop tax abatements (none of which ever get counted in it’s costs)….at least it’s got that going for it. Weird how the WE never goes into any cost comparison data, just runs story after story of “wind is great!”. Would be interesting to see the job predictions too, as they keep claiming kinds of “new jobs created”…yet never seem to have any offsetting “jobs destroyed” or “jobs never allowed to exist” (my nebulous stat as compared to “jobs saved” from Obama), as they continue to push for fossil fuel alternatives to go away. Apparently any jobs in fossil fuel don’t count when they’re destroyed by uneconomic/subsidy supported/tax break supported/taxpayer dollar investment supported/govt mandated jobs being “created” (which there probably isn’t a more literal use of the term ever…except for “Czar”….).

  5. XXX
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    Who ever is paying the tab on this project had better have a fat checkbook because they won’t get any funding from the state. The state of Kansas offers absolutely nothing to subsidize “Green” issues.

  6. Regular
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    I wonder how well those huge metal towers will with stand tornadoes?

  7. Regular
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

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    XXX
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    Who ever is paying the tab on this project had better have a fat checkbook because they won’t get any funding from the state. The state of Kansas offers absolutely nothing to subsidize “Green” issues.
    ————-
    That will be the users of the electricity with the fat wallets.

  8. DFB
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    XXX – you might want to check your facts. The State/Reno County/City of Hutch just gave Siemans about $20M in cash, free land, prop tax abatements, ROFR on another 100 acres, training grants & future grants TBD at a later date….
    State of Ks also waives excise taxes on ethanol, offers up to $250K (or $260K can’t remember) in tax credits for building an alt refueling station, even excise tax breaks/retrofitting vehicle credits for things like propane…just to name a few.

  9. Regular
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    a new government climate status report released Tuesday warned that global warming’s serious effects are already here and getting worse.

    A new Gallup poll released , “a little more than a third say they worry about [global warming] a great deal, a percentage that is roughly the same as the one Gallup measured 19 years ago.”

    (chortles)

  10. DFB
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

    XXX – here’s the only remnant I found of a reference to the incentives offered on the Siemens plant in Hutch (note no value on the land itself given, property tax abatements, or future grants TBD later).
    “The Hutchinson News reports Siemens will receive an incentive package that includes a 100-acre site in Reno County, $2 million in grants from the local governments, and a new rail spur at an estimated cost of $2.5 million.”

    http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/blogs/eye_on_business/?cat=232

  11. donndublin
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

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    Regular
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    a new government climate status report released Tuesday warned that global warming’s serious effects are already here and getting worse.

    A new Gallup poll released , “a little more than a third say they worry about [global warming] a great deal, a percentage that is roughly the same as the one Gallup measured 19 years ago.”

    (chortles)
    ______________________

    The govmunt is getting disparate to convince the shepple about AGW. All they have to offer is speculation from the computer models.

    PRAISE BE

  12. donndublin
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    disparate = desperate

  13. American_Way
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    Comos must be comatose today?

  14. DFB
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    Amway – here ya go..someone’s gotta say it..AGW! IPCC Report!! Denier!!!
    Is that enough of a fix for ya?

  15. BlueJay
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 6:22 pm | Permalink

    We could have had the windmills and transmission lines without the carbon spewing coal plant.

  16. Barnie
    Posted June 17, 2009 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    Global warming is going to be fixed if it ever turns out to be real. They’ll blow up numerous dust bombs into the atmosphere that will cool the earth. This although will make some places like L.A. which is already smoggy, have less hours of daylight, and may contribute to temporary desertification of some areas. Should be quite a spectacle.