Open thread 5/6

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  1. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 6:12 am | Permalink

    From the irrepressible http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/

    CPT James Ambrose
    Idaho Citizens’ Constitutional Militia

    Dear CPT Ambrose,

    Please accept my application for the sniper position you are advertising on your website. I don’t think you’ll find a better candidate for the job anywhere.

    You see, I live for sniping. There is nothing I love more than taking my .50 cal Model 82A1 Barrett semi-auto slaughtermaster–I call him Chuck, after Chuck Norris–out for some prairie dog mayhem. I hate prairie dogs. They live communally, you know–like communists, God damned communist rodents. They say they live in towns, but they’re more like hamlets, God damned Vietcong hamlets. That’s what they are.

    Anyway, I was telling you about my love for sniping. God, I love Chuck. Ain’t nothing better than that moment when I pull his butt hard against my shoulder, rub my finger on his trigger, slowly coaxing it back until that triumphant moment of release when the 660 grains of wadcutter ecstasy explodes out of his chamber, shoots down that 29 inches of hot hard steel and erupts out of his muzzle in a glorious eruption of masculine power. Ohhhh, God it is good. There is nothing like it. It always leaves me spent and exhausted, but with a kind of indescribable floating feeling. You know what I mean; the kind of feeling where your whole body feels as if it’s been infused with liquid joy and all you want is a cigarette and a little Barry White music in your headphones.

    Chuck is always with me. I take him everywhere. A lot of the men in my own militia don’t understand that. It’s why I, a militia general, am willing to serve as a sniper under a mere captain. I prayed about it and the Lord told me you’d be more understanding.

    There’s nothing wrong with a man sleeping with his rifle and doing certain things to increase that special bond between them. I mean, why should Sgt Cletis or anyone else care as long as you use a lot of gun grease and are careful about preventing anything from getting into the muzzle. You know what I mean. It’s all part of our culture.

    Well, let me know when to report in. I’ve already picked up the uniform.

    Heterosexually yours,

    Gen. JC Christian, patriot

  2. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 6:34 am | Permalink

    Classy, CONs.

    Real classy.

    http://www.boingboing.net/200905051404.jpg

  3. Posted May 6, 2009 at 6:51 am | Permalink

    Build A Bridge Of Love

    Isn’t it crazy, we haven’t spoken in years
    We were the closest friends
    Where did we part, when did the love disappear
    We thought it’d never end
    Just a causeless separation
    A turn in the road of life
    But now we’re nothing more than strangers
    Don’t you think that it’s time to

    Let’s build a bridge of love together
    One stone of hope at a time
    Let’s span the sea that comes between us
    So join your hand and heart with mine

    The timing is right for our differences to cease
    O Father make us one
    Let’s join in the fight to love all humanity
    Our time has just begaun
    We can use these precious moments
    To tear apart dividing walls
    And with those stones of separation
    Build a bridge for all
    Every race and every nation
    United and unique
    We’re all just links in a chain of love
    I need you, you need me

    Phillips Craig & Dean

  4. American_Way
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 7:04 am | Permalink

    Wow! Sex affair and a follow-on felony all rolled up in one prominent democrat. Is this a two-fer?

    “John Edwards is under federal investigation over $114,000 in payments to Hunter’s production company. Using money from a political action committee for personal matters is a crime. Edwards denies wrongdoing.” CNN

  5. beber
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 7:08 am | Permalink

    Sex — Get over it; if he knowingly paid his mistress out of campaign funds, we ought to at least get to see the film.

  6. BlueJay
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 7:11 am | Permalink

    Hello?

    Repeated violations of the Constitution? Abuse of executive powers?

    When WILL bush and cheney be frog marched to jail where they belong?

  7. beber
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 7:12 am | Permalink

    They were faithful to their wives, though. That’s what’s really important.

  8. American_Way
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 7:19 am | Permalink

    “Sex — Get over it;”

    Oh I don’t mind. But just yesterday Monkeyhawk was throwing out the names of repukes who broke their wedding vows of marriage.

    And I would like to see the evidence too. I thought Hunter wasn’t bad looking. Even if X rated, we should be able to view the film excersizing our rights under the First Amendment.

    Unless the unFairness Doctrine has been enacted and the Constitution has been “Obamanized” already.

  9. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 7:26 am | Permalink

    How to befuddle a Republican, ask him if he accept basic scientific facts.

    http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/05/republicans_cant_even_admit_th.php

    And Republicans wonder why people laugh at them and can’t take them seriously on scientific issues.

  10. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 7:27 am | Permalink

    But poor ol’ John Edwards really screwed the pooch (among other things) on this one.

    Rielle Hunter has been a professional s|ut for decades. Her character (heh-heh) was based on Hunter in Jay McInerney’s “Bright Lights, Big City” in the 1980s.

    But to be, ahem, “fair and balanced” about stupidity –

    Semi-nekkid photos of Carrie Prejean, aka Miss California, have surfaced. Miss Prejean who is a born again Christian and anti-gay marriage activist, claims the release of the photos was meant to mock her Christian faith. She called the release an attack, intolerant and offensive.

    “…behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out.” — Numbers 32:23 (King James Version)

  11. SolDevVB
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 7:46 am | Permalink

    rub my finger on his trigger
    ecstasy explodes out of his chamber
    shoots down that 29 inches of hot hard steel
    erupts out of his muzzle in a glorious eruption of masculine power
    your whole body feels as if it’s been infused with liquid joy

    Cue voice over –

    “Unable to contain the thoughts of his fantasy, monkeyhawk takes his first awkward steps out of the closet. Embrace your sexual orientation monkey. Embrace it!”

  12. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 7:51 am | Permalink

    It seems that the Kansas GOP isn’t much different from their pals at the notorious AIG. Kansas has to cut its budget and state employees are looking at a 5% pay reduction, but that doesn’t mean the GOP won’t be giving itself a pay bonus.

    http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2009/may/05/some-kansas-republican-employees-getting-special-p/

    That’s the fiscal conservatives for you, always looking out for their own interests and the corporations that own them.

  13. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 8:02 am | Permalink

    “SolDevVB” wrestles with his morning wood –

    “…Embrace your sexual orientation monkey. “

    You might have noted the post that’s got you aroused was tagged as a cut-and-post.

    I didn’t write it.

    Hemingway did.

    (Just ask “Boxlock20.”)

  14. SolDevVB
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 8:06 am | Permalink

    the post that’s got you aroused

    Fishing in the wrong pond monkey. I don’t swing your way. Better luck next time.

  15. American_Way
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    “Semi-nekkid photos of Carrie Prejean, aka Miss California”

    Monkeyhawk’s post probably reflects the values of many liberals: it is more important to him that a beauty queen is exposed – than the criminal investigations and ethics investigations congress is delaying on half a dozen democrats in our US Congress.

    Priorities, right?

  16. American_Way
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 8:37 am | Permalink

    Maggotpunk posts:

    “It seems that the Kansas GOP isn’t much different from their pals at the notorious AIG. but that doesn’t mean the GOP won’t be giving itself a pay bonus.

    That’s the fiscal conservatives for you, always looking out for their own interests and the corporations that own them.”

    Seems the Kansas GOP isn’t much different than the democratic controlled federal congress and president. It seems they still voted to restore the automatic pay raises. (lengthy but worthy to know which greedy senators want a raise during the recession):

    Here is a list of Senators’ votes on whether or not to cancel the automatic pay increase. (The official vote record is here.) Scroll down to find your state and Senators. A “Yea” vote was a vote for continuing automatic pay increases. A “Nay” vote was for canceling automatic pay increases. Here’s how to contact them and let them know what you think.

    Alabama
    Nay – Sessions, Jefferson (R)
    Nay – Shelby, Richard (R)

    Alaska
    Yea – Begich, Mark (D)
    Nay – Murkowski, Lisa (R)

    Arizona
    Nay – Kyl, Jon (R)
    Nay – McCain, John (R)

    Arkansas
    Yea – Pryor, Mark (D)
    Nay – Lincoln, Blanche (D)

    California
    Yea – Boxer, Barbara (D)
    Yea – Feinstein, Dianne (D)

    Colorado
    Yea – Bennet, Michael (D)
    Yea – Udall, Mark (D)

    Connecticut
    Yea – Lieberman, Joseph (I)
    Nay – Dodd, Christopher (D)

    Delaware
    Yea – Carper, Thomas (D)
    Yea – Kaufman, Edward (D)

    Florida
    Yea – Martinez, Mel (R)
    Yea – Nelson, Bill (D)

    Georgia
    Nay – Chambliss, Saxby (R)
    Nay – Isakson, John (R)

    Hawaii
    Yea – Akaka, Daniel (D)
    Yea – Inouye, Daniel (D)

    Idaho
    Nay – Crapo, Michael (R)
    Nay – Risch, James (R)

    Illinois
    Yea – Burris, Roland (D)
    Yea – Durbin, Richard (D)

    Indiana
    Yea – Lugar, Richard (R)
    Nay – Bayh, Evan (D)

    Iowa
    Yea – Harkin, Thomas (D)
    Nay – Grassley, Charles (R)

    Kansas
    Nay – Brownback, Samuel (R)
    Nay – Roberts, Pat (R)

    Kentucky
    Nay – Bunning, Jim (R)
    Nay – McConnell, Mitch (R)

    Louisiana
    Yea – Landrieu, Mary (D)
    Nay – Vitter, David (R)

    Maine
    Nay – Collins, Susan (R)
    Nay – Snowe, Olympia (R)

    Maryland
    Yea – Cardin, Benjamin (D)
    Yea – Mikulski, Barbara (D)

    Massachusetts
    Yea – Kerry, John (D)
    Not Voting – Kennedy, Edward (D)

    Michigan
    Yea – Levin, Carl (D)
    Yea – Stabenow, Debbie Ann (D)

    Minnesota
    Nay – Klobuchar, Amy (D)

    Mississippi
    Yea – Cochran, Thad (R)
    Yea – Wicker, Roger (R)

    Missouri
    Nay – Bond, Christopher (R)
    Nay – McCaskill, Claire (D)

    Montana
    Yea – Baucus, Max (D)
    Nay – Tester, Jon (D)

    Nebraska
    Nay – Nelson, Ben (D)
    Not Voting – Johanns, Mike (R)

    Nevada
    Yea – Reid, Harry (D)
    Nay – Ensign, John (R)

    New Hampshire
    Yea – Gregg, Judd (R)
    Yea – Shaheen, Jeanne (D)

    New Jersey
    Yea – Lautenberg, Frank (D)
    Yea – Menendez, Robert (D)

    New Mexico
    Yea – Bingaman, Jeff (D)
    Yea – Udall, Tom (D)

    New York
    Yea – Gillibrand, Kirsten (D)
    Yea – Schumer, Charles (D)

    North Carolina
    Yea – Hagan, Kay (D)
    Nay – Burr, Richard (R)

    North Dakota
    Yea – Conrad, Kent (D)
    Yea – Dorgan, Byron (D)

    Ohio
    Yea – Brown, Sherrod (D)
    Nay – Voinovich, George (R)

    Oklahoma
    Nay – Coburn, Thomas (R)
    Nay – Inhofe, James (R)

    Oregon
    Yea – Merkley, Jeff (D)
    Nay – Wyden, Ron (D)

    Pennsylvania
    Yea – Casey, Robert (D)
    Nay – Specter, Arlen (R)

    Rhode Island
    Yea – Reed, John (D)
    Yea – Whitehouse, Sheldon (D)

    South Carolina
    Nay – DeMint, Jim (R)
    Nay – Graham, Lindsey (R)

    South Dakota
    Yea – Johnson, Tim (D)
    Nay – Thune, John (R)

    Tennessee
    Nay – Alexander, Lamar (R)
    Nay – Corker, Bob (R)

    Texas
    Nay – Cornyn, John (R)
    Nay – Hutchison, Kay (R)

    Utah
    Nay – Bennett, Robert (R)
    Nay – Hatch, Orrin (R)

    Vermont
    Yea – Leahy, Patrick (D)
    Yea – Sanders, Bernard (I)

    Virginia
    Yea – Warner, Mark (D)
    Nay – Webb, Jim (D)

    Washington
    Yea – Cantwell, Maria (D)
    Yea – Murray, Patty (D)

    West Virginia
    Yea – Byrd, Robert (D)
    Yea – Rockefeller, John (D)

    Wisconsin
    Yea – Kohl, Herbert (D)
    Nay – Feingold, Russell (D)

    Wyoming
    Nay – Barrasso, John (R)
    Nay – Enzi, Michael (R)

    That’s the democrats for you, always looking out for their own interests and the corporations that own them.

  17. okobserver
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 8:37 am | Permalink

    BlueJay
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 7:11 am | Permalink
    Hello?

    Repeated violations of the Constitution? Abuse of executive powers?

    When WILL bush and cheney be frog marched to jail where they belong?

    ———————-
    Well blowhard your party is in charge aren’t they? When will the charges be drawn. When will the trials begin. We know how all powerful you are. You told us yesterday. Just pull a few strings in DC and get this ball rolling.

  18. okobserver
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 8:42 am | Permalink

    AmWay you started awfully early making maggot eat his words. It will just be downhill from here.

  19. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 8:45 am | Permalink

    Amway and okobserver, you guys clearly didn’t read the article. The subject was the Kansas GOP as those who are currently serving in Topeka. This was made clear by providing a link but I suppose reading and getting the facts was beyond your reach.

    Thanks for making yourselves look foolish.

  20. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 8:46 am | Permalink

    Speaking of foolish it looks the Christians have converted Obama’s mom to Christianity.

    http://www.americablog.com/2009/05/abc-news-mormons-baptized-obamas.html

    Sure she’s dead but that doesn’t stop the fundies from casting spells and communing with the dead.

  21. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 8:52 am | Permalink

    Atheist kill babies for fun…then eat them…Homos do the same (except they kill kittens).

  22. American_Way
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 8:53 am | Permalink

    Ain’t it a shame? Congress just gave themselves a $4,700 pay raise at the beginning of this year.

    And those poor, poor social security receipients had a freeze on their COLA and increases in medicare Part B for many retirees. Saddly, those retired Americans cannot make up the lost income.

  23. American_Way
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    “Kansas GOP as those who are currently serving in Topeka.”

    Points still the same. You compared republicans to greedy AIG. Said they were always looking out for their own.

    Democrats are no better (as I’ve shown).

    Now, the feds give out bonuses to THEIR employees too. That hasn’t stopped.

  24. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    How is the point the same? How many Senators of California are currently serving as representatives in the Kansas House? You just don’t know what you are talking about and you’ve made yourself look like an idiot. Try reading next time.

  25. American_Way
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 9:18 am | Permalink

    Greed is greed Maggotpunk. It’s not restricted to those “nasty” republicans.

    I don’t see anyone in Congress working for one dollar like some of the CEO’s did. Gave themselves nice fat pay raises (as opposed to one-time bonuses which do not permanently affect HR costs).

    Great example.

  26. SolDevVB
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 9:20 am | Permalink

    Looks like it was some smoke and mirrors. A shiny object for the dims to focus on…

    =================================================================

    Source: Charges Unlikely for Lawyers Over Interrogation Memos

    A person familiar with the inquiry, who spoke on condition of anonymity, says investigators recommended referring two of the three lawyers to state bar associations for possible disciplinary action.

    AP

    Tuesday, May 05, 2009

    WASHINGTON — Justice Department officials have stopped short of recommending criminal charges against Bush administration lawyers who wrote secret memos approving harsh interrogation techniques of terror suspects.

    A person familiar with the inquiry, who spoke on condition of anonymity, says investigators recommended referring two of the three lawyers to state bar associations for possible disciplinary action. The person was not authorized to discuss the inquiry.

  27. American_Way
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    The average amount of credit card debt in households with more than one card is now more than $8,000, according to CardWeb.com. The average American has 2.7 bank credit cards, 3.8 retail credit cards and 1.1 debit cards, for a total of 7.6 cards per cardholder, CardWeb.com said.
    Last week the House overwhelmingly passed a Credit Cardholders’ Bill of Rights, intended to protect consumers from sharp interest rate increases, harsh penalties, short payment windows and other abusive practices. A similar measure is moving through the Senate.
    This won’t help credit card holders pay off their huge debts, nor will it protect credit card owners from being stupid.
    “Crown Financial Ministries’ Bentley cited Proverbs 22:7 to drive home the point: “The borrower is servant to the lender.”
    “We believe excessive debt is a clear warning sign in Scripture,” he said, “that people who leverage beyond their means are in danger of being enslaved. … We think in the current environment, debt elimination is essential.” “

    My question is: Who is going to protect us from Congress and the president ?

  28. okobserver
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    Amway, This week we received a notice from our Discover card that effective with the June billing the rate was being calculated in a different way. It ammounted to a 9.7% increase. It would go into effect for the balance owed on the card. If you didn’t accept this rate then you had to submit a written notice to that effect and you would be allowed to pay off your balance at the old rate but the card would be canceled. If you made one charge after the 15th of June this would mean you accepted the new rate.

    Now this new legislation won’t affect me because I never carry a balance on my card but for the millions with large balances this will be a large payment increase when time are tough. Another not well thought out plan from the big O. This man really has a god complex. He hasn’t realized yet that he is the prez and not the king.

  29. American_Way
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    In 30 years of marriage we have had one late payment (got lost in the mail) and they charged us interest. We called Discover and they had an automatic forgiveness for customers in good standing.

    As I understand it, this law will not protect CC owners from fines by that same CC Company. The law prevents the company from increasing rates based upon OTHER bad debt.

    Rates are also higher for all of us because of defaults. So we pay for others not paying their bills. And higher consumer prices at the store.

    But one thing that bothers me: Banks charge these double digit rates to borrowers, but pay me a paltry 1-3% on my various investments. They take my money and give me pennies, and then loan it out to those who live on credit for huge percentages.

  30. Regular
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    The current predatory practice by Credit Card companies is something I addressed over a month ago.

    What they do is lower your credit limit to just above your balance if you are within 70 percent of your previous credit limit.

    What this does is allows the Credit Card companies to attach more fees, penalties and interest as you are too close to your limit, albeit it was re-established by the Credit Card Company.

  31. Pedant
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 10:06 am | Permalink

    okobserver
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 9:48 am | Permalink
    Amway, This week we received a notice from our Discover card that effective with the June billing the rate was being calculated in a different way. It ammounted to a 9.7% increase. It would go into effect for the balance owed on the card. If you didn’t accept this rate then you had to submit a written notice to that effect and you would be allowed to pay off your balance at the old rate but the card would be canceled. If you made one charge after the 15th of June this would mean you accepted the new rate.

    Now this new legislation won’t affect me because I never carry a balance on my card but for the millions with large balances this will be a large payment increase when time are tough. Another not well thought out plan from the big O. This man really has a god complex. He hasn’t realized yet that he is the prez and not the king.

    This has absolutely nothing to do with “new legislation.”

    I have had an account with Citi since 1988. Last October I got the same notice from them: accept the new rate or the account will be closed when the current card expires. I cancelled the account on the spot, credit report be dam*ed.

    Note that last October is before the current Congress or President was even in office. Banks extending revolving consumer credit have been weeding accounts like yours and mine (the non-profitable kind) since the great mortgage-backed asset devaluation exercise of late last summer. The change in terms offered you by Discover and to me by Citi have been offered to millions of other Americans who have used credit cards to finagle 25-day loans at 0% return for the issuing bank.

    Reason # 9,456,789,125,255 that the GOP is out of power: in their rush to hang something, ANYTHING, on Obama QUICKLY!! they show thinking Americans that they don’t know their rear ends from holes in the ground.

  32. Posted May 6, 2009 at 10:16 am | Permalink

    “Crown Financial Ministries’ Bentley cited Proverbs 22:7 to drive home the point: “The borrower is servant to the lender.”

    “We believe excessive debt is a clear warning sign in Scripture,” he said, “that people who leverage beyond their means are in danger of being enslaved. … We think in the current environment, debt elimination is essential.” “
    __________________________________

    What the Brit says isnt untrue… But he forgets that in that time frame(when Proverbs was written), there were rules against “usury”(using interest on loans)… And that every 50 years, there was a Year of Jubilee, when all debts are forgiven, and everybody starts over at -0-…

    I wonder what would happen if we brought back the Year of Jubilee now?

    And, I am curious… What does the British Crown have to do with the passage of the Credit Card holders’ Bill of Rights?? I mean, hey, England doesnt operate on the same economy as we do…

  33. okobserver
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    Pedant my point I was trying to make and did it poorly was that the card companies see what is coming and know they will be forced to do it the govs way so they are pushing the changes early.

    Businesses that have to continuely swallow bad debt will make money one way or another. They are trying to do it on the backs of those who pay their bills.

    I expect to see next that interest will be charged from the date of purchase or that there will be no days grace period.

  34. American_Way
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    “This has absolutely nothing to do with “new legislation.”

    Here is the House version (summary) passed 30 April. The senate started work on their version this week.

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-627&tab=summary

    I didn’t see any big changes. For those of who use our credit cards for convenience – and not a load, I don’t see an impact. For those who use a credit card for a loan, there are some protections – but the CC Companies can still charge what most will think is “exorbitant” rates.

    This bill will not make the average $8,000 in credit “go away” and double digit rates are still there.

    Some CC Companies may actually cancel more cards -and disapprove “risky” borrowers as a result of this bill. Lenders will surely look harder at applicants credit history. That’s a good thing.

    But it may run counter to the Treasury desire for all of us to start spending again.

  35. okobserver
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    Why should the gov be in the business of dictating terms to credit card companies. No one forces you to charge. No one hold a gun to your head and tells you to get that 56″ TV. Ultimately I am responsible for what I put on my credit card. The gov shouldn’t be trying to shelter me from the consequences.

  36. Pedant
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    okobserver
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 10:26 am | Permalink
    Pedant my point I was trying to make and did it poorly was that the card companies see what is coming and know they will be forced to do it the govs way so they are pushing the changes early.

    If that was your point, then you’re just digging your grave deeper.

    This has nothing to do with banks reading tea leaves re:guvmint. It has to do with banks hoarding cash. Why loan money for free? ANS: don’t, and force unprofitable borrowers to accept a more profitable interest rate or give up the account. Note that this yields more free cash flow for banks.

    That’s the idea, free cash flow and increased cash assets for banks.

    Can’t yall just TRY to be rational?

  37. beber
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    Pukes: WE demand our government support usarious interest rates and deceptive lending practices, after all, it’s your fault if we lie to you to steal your money. You sickening fother muckers, no wonder you’re out in the cold.

  38. American_Way
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    okobserver, I completely agree with you in principle.

    But I am taking a slightly different tack on this one, which admittedly is not in form with the principle.

    The SOB’s charge people what, 19-20% at a time of low inflation. But they only pay me 1-3% on my bank savings – which they turn around and loan shark to irresponsible borrowers.

    And could they make their “term” any smaller? I think they use FONT size 3.

    Having read the House Bill, I don’t see anything grievious for banks (although it will cut their profits and increase their costs at a time when they are already in trouble).

    Yep, this is contrary to good old fashion conservative values, but I think a lot of Americans think banks are ripping us off.

    It’s my way of sticking it to the banks, despite my values. Probably wrong. But it’s me.

  39. American_Way
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    Plus, if this bill makes banks tighten their lending practises and they stop lending to so many irresponsible people – which affects MY rates and costs, I’ll be happier.

  40. American_Way
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    “deceptive lending practices”

    HA-HA! Stupid people. Government will never protect them.

  41. YellowdogLiberal
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    The best way to avoid credit card charges is to not have one. Debit cards work fine. If I don’t have the money, I don’t buy something. Works well.

    Dennis

  42. fleettwood
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    If I don’t have the money, I don’t buy something. Works well.
    _____________________________

    Tell that to the Libs.

  43. American_Way
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    Here’s another of my pet peeves. Credit Card theft.
    Because I live closely to a credit card analyst, I know that stolen credit cards are a huge problem. They increase our CC costs – and retailer costs (who eat the charges).

    One of the first things a thief does with a stolen credit card is to attempt to buy gas. It is quick and private. No person asks for ID. If the sale is authorized – they then can go to Best Buy and make major purchases without worry.

    WHY NOT REQUIRE A PIIN? HOW TOUGH WOULD THAT BE?

    We use a pin for debt cards, ATM’s, and half a dozen things.

    How much theft could quickly and easily be prevented if we were required to key in a simple PIIN?

    (And yes, I know thieves will find a way. But this would stop lot’s if (e.g. children, family members, workers, x-boy/girlfriends, not professional thieves)

  44. American_Way
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    “If I don’t have the money, I don’t buy something. Works well.
    _____________________________

    Tell that to the Libs.

    Amen!

  45. fleettwood
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    Hopey McChange strikes again:

    WASHINGTON — Although President Obama has vowed that citizens will be able to track “every dime” of the $787 billion stimulus bill, a government website dedicated to the spending won’t have details on contracts and grants until October and may not be complete until next spring — halfway through the program, administration officials said.

  46. Posted May 6, 2009 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    Ah.. for the days of Bill Clinton’s balanced federal budget…

  47. SolDevVB
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    Got a request for you fleet, can you drum up one of your lists of cos and her freakish attacks on anyone who shows her faith to be false?

    In particular, where she attacks scientists for not being climate scientists. Apparently this freak doesn’t care anymore.

  48. American_Way
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    Looks like another fine federal program. They are going to pay farmers to not cut down their trees I’m reminded of the old CRP set aside program (when we pay farmers not to grow things).

    “A greenhouse gases trading system funded with the help of then-Illinois State Sen. Barack Obama would appear to have another prominent supporter, Indiana Sen. Richard Lugar, head of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, who was also one of the system’s earliest clients.

    Three years ago, Lugar, who grows corn, soybeans and trees on his family’s 604 acres of property in Marion County, Ind., became the first farmer in his state to sign up with the new commodity market called the Chicago Climate Exchange, which is likely to play a major role in President Obama’s $650 billion cap-and-trade initiative. In the process, Lugar became what the exchange called an offset producer, entitling him to a financial reward in return for keeping his part of his property untouched.” Foxnews

  49. XXX
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    YellowdogLiberal
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 11:05 am | Permalink
    The best way to avoid credit card charges is to not have one. Debit cards work fine. If I don’t have the money, I don’t buy something. Works well.

    Dennis
    ________________________________

    Waaaay too obvious.
    I haven’t owned a credit card in years. Don’t need one, don’t want one. The debit card works just fine.

  50. donndublin
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    #
    fleettwood
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    If I don’t have the money, I don’t buy something. Works well.
    _____________________________

    Tell that to the Libs.
    _______________________________

    The libs don’t spend their own money, they spend other people’s money.

  51. fleettwood
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    Got a request for you fleet, can you drum up one of your lists of cos and her freakish attacks on anyone who shows her faith to be false?
    ____________________________________

    I’m on it.

  52. American_Way
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    donndublin,

    I hate to say it, but “cons” spend other peoples money too.

    We need to get to the point where we can all admit our ENTIRE government is out-of-control.

  53. Posted May 6, 2009 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    I have a need to say something. And I am only going to say it once.

    I happen to know BlueJay(JR) personally.

    Please notice that he isnt posting all day as is usually lied about here. I also happen to know that he owns and operates his own business.

    And for that, many of you accost him DAILY, on and on and on, because YOU all say he has no job, and lives off of public funds.

    THAT IS A LIE.

    As every one of you knows, a person can own and operate a business, and have no employees other than themselves. There are a number of others who post here who also have their own businesses.

    IF you are going to continually attack BlueJay for owning and operating his own business, then why not attack the others? I’m sure not all of them hire employees. Sol, how many employees do you have in your business? Don, how about you? How many do you employ?

    And Box, how many employees do you have?

    We know that okobserver says she has employees, so she is out of this question.

    Now, depending on what kind of business you own and operate, without employees, we all know that different business ventures have different levels of expected income. Thus, different levels of expenses, taxes, etc.

    Now, then, since NONE of you who constantly attack Blue Jay have any CLUE as to how much income he does or doesnt have… HOW can you sit here, and post all of your negativity against him, when you, in reality, know NOTHING about him?

    The ONLY thing that any of you know is that he cannot afford health insurance on his son. And, I hate to tell ya, that is pretty common around these parts… Shoot, I cant afford my own health insurance, unless it is included in my particular contract du jour… And not all of my contracts include health insurance.

    I have also met Blue Jay’s son. He looks to do quite fine. Well taken care of by his father. Would that more single parents did as good!!

    Yet, many of you rag on and on and on about Blue Jay not taking care of his son. And a few of you even get downright disgusting and lewd about that relationship. Which is a good, typical father/son relationship. I only wish my Dad and I would have the kind of time BlueJay and his son have together. That will mean a great deal to his son, as he gets older.

    So, since you dont know BlueJay, and you dont know his son,

    WHY do you do nothing every day but stck a bunch of LIES on both him and his son?

    How would you like it if people did that to YOU? If you think it’s funny, they you have a very weird sense of humor. Because it isnt funny. Not one bit.

    What it is, in fact, is extremely contemptible.

    I am not alone in saying this… I think such contemptuous behavior out of people who claim to be adults, and who claim such high value systems, should stop TODAY… or at least by the end of the week. This has gone on for WAY too long.

    If you really believe in the set of values that you all claim to believe in, then you will cease such nonsense.

    On the other hand, if you dont believe in the values to claim to believe in, then you will merely continue as you are doing, and everything I have just written, you will use for attacks.

    I guess the ball is in your court.

    We will just watch and see… As I said, I am only posting on this ONCE.

    Thanks.

  54. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    This might upset closet cases and topless beauty queens but gay marriage has just become legal in Maine.

    http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/05/06/maine-legalizes-same-sex-marriage/

  55. Regular
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    Well Chas, maybe it’s because BlueJay threatens everyone with revealing personal information or doing ‘bone digs’ on past statements. Or perhaps he lies constantly about other people and what they represent.

    I remember when BlueJay came to the blog after his prolonged absence due to a lack of a computer (and one was supplied by XXX) – he came back wanting to attack constantly anyone who thought differently than he did.

    He still does it.

    He learns not to attack people, maybe he’ll be left alone.

    But I doubt the boy will ever learn.

  56. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    Chas & BlueJay,

    I respect anyone who runs their own business, as I am trying to do the same. I have absolutely no problem with this.

    I have ragged on BlueJay in the past about his son and livelihood and I have quit. Why? Because it doesn’t matter. I will however debate him on the issues and that does matter.

    I don’t like his tactics and will counter them 10 fold if he chooses to go down certain paths. I think that is understandable given the past history here.

  57. Posted May 6, 2009 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    YHea, sure, right, Reg. Like you dont do the same things you are accusing BlueJay of doing?? (cough, cough) Riiiiiiight!!! Pot, meet Kettle!!

  58. Regular
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    #
    Chas
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    YHea, sure, right, Reg. Like you dont do the same things you are accusing BlueJay of doing?? (cough, cough) Riiiiiiight!!! Pot, meet Kettle!!
    ————————-
    I don’t attack, unless I am attacked.

    It’s a simple concept, really it is.

    ::

  59. Pedant
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 12:33 pm | Permalink
    This might upset closet cases and topless beauty queens but gay marriage has just become legal in Maine.

    But Senate Majority Leader Philip Bartlett II said the bill does not compel religious institutions to recognize gay marriage.

    “We respect religious liberties. … This is long overdue,” said Bartlett, D-Gorham.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090506/ap_on_re_us/us_xgr_gay_marriage_maine;_ylt=AuaEgdWLvKt8yQrXUssNrWSs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTJyN3U0dmg5BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMDkwNTA2L3VzX3hncl9nYXlfbWFycmlhZ2VfbWFpbmUEY3BvcwM3BHBvcwMxNQRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3J5BHNsawNtYWluZWJlY29tZXM-

    Hats off to Maine. That’s the way every successful campaign for social justice in the US has begun, it seems — in the Northeast (Iowa is just blessed with incredibly courageous political leadership).

    Not in the West or the Midwest or the South, but in the seedbed of our old Puritanical roots, New England.

  60. Posted May 6, 2009 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    “But Senate Majority Leader Philip Bartlett II said the bill does not compel religious institutions to recognize gay marriage.

    “We respect religious liberties. … This is long overdue,” said Bartlett, D-Gorham.” [Pedant}

    That is as it should be Pedant. There is a lot of garbage floating around the internet how this somehow means churches will be forced to do things they dont believe in. It’s just that — garbage… What Bartlett is right on the money… We have Freedom of Religion in this great Nation. And so it will always be!!

  61. Regular
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    I wonder what the per 100,000 rate of Proctologists per capita there is in Maine?

  62. mrcontroversy
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    I will be fasting tomorrow in support of Roxana Saberi, the American journalist being held in Iran… need all the support I can get :)

  63. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    need all the support I can get :)
    =============================

    Try crutches.

    Starving yourself for one day won’t help her.

  64. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

    We have Freedom of Religion in this great Nation. And so it will always be!!
    ================================

    I hope so.

  65. Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    I’ll join you in that, Mr. C — Call over to IMF, and see if they might send out an email, and spread the word around the City??

  66. Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    Ooops, Mr. C — That would be IFM, not IMF… darn typos…. :-)

  67. Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    Might also call the Mosque up on the north side, and the synagogues too…

  68. GMC70
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    Chas – While I don’t participate and refuse to take part in the attacks on JR’s personal life and circumstances (I know not of them, and they’re irrelevent anyway), and find it repugnant, I note JR does exactly that. Regularly.

    While that does not excuse the actions of others, the reality is that JR in large part reaps what he sows. I suspect given his persecution complex, it fills a need in him.

  69. Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    Oh yea, Mr. C — you might also want to call either the Chancery office, or the Newman Center, at WSU, and maybe the Pub. Relations at Friends univ. All of them have huge email networks…

  70. GMC70
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    mrcontroversy
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:01 pm | Permalink
    I will be fasting tomorrow in support of Roxana Saberi, the American journalist being held in Iran… need all the support I can get :)

    ——

    While I understand the sentiment, tell me, Mr. C, what substantive effect will this possibly have? Even if we all did it – even if the entire state did it – he**, the entire nation – what substantive effect will it have?

    None.

    So again, while I understand the sentiment, perhaps you ought to consider saving your energies for something that actually makes a tangible difference. Symbolic gestures may make us feel better, but they accomplish nothing.

  71. American_Way
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    Chas,

    If Bluejay can dish it out, he certainly better grow a couple and take it. Because he has attacked, berated, and made fun of many posters on the weblog. Last week, I saw a thread where someone counted 13 posts by Bluejay that were ALL attacks and had zero to do with the thread subject.

    That was just one thread on one day.

    Bluejay/JM/JR, has stated his goal or a goal which involves some very bad things for cons, repukes, wingnuts, religious right, etc……

    He admits he qualifies for assistance for health care. From that, it is a simple matter to determine the income levels for eligibility for that program. From that, you can surmise the other entitlement programs he may/may not be partaking in.

    It is an issue – because he makes it an issue.

    Bluejay is a socialist, asking for more and more socialist programs. Sorry, but he is the perfect example of a beggar asking for more. That’s his right – BUT he demands and concludes that those with more OWE it to him.

    A better illustration of the vast difference between far left and far right cannot be made.

    His son himself, is off limits as far as I’m concerned.

    All that said – If Bluejay will promise to restrict his posts just to the thread content and stop attacking, labeling, and degrading those who have opinions and beliefs contrary to his own, I will stop pestering him back.

    But if you want to attack other posters and put them down for their beliefs, all is fair.

  72. Regular
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    Fasting is discriminatory against insulin dependent diabetics.

  73. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    GMC70
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:24 pm
    —-

    Thank you for posting a more obvious description of my 1:02 pm post.

    Some folks need an explanation, I am not that guy.

  74. fleettwood
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    I will be fasting tomorrow in support of Roxana Saberi, the American journalist being held in Iran… need all the support I can get :)
    ____________________________________

    Oh, brother. I will be floating candles down the Cowskin creek.

  75. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    Oh, brother. I will be floating candles down the Cowskin creek.
    ======================

    Watch out for my feces.

  76. Phantom
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    Markets are liking dem sum Obama, again today.
    Whatever happened to the daily ‘Markets and investor class have no confidence in Obama’ posts?

  77. fleettwood
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    Watch out for my feces.
    _____________________________________

    Check that. I will be floating candles in my bathtub, but only because I care so dam much.

  78. SolDevVB
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    Oh, brother. I will be floating candles down the Cowskin creek.

    I’ll be lighting cow farts.

    Hey I feel for the woman.

    Wonder why Obama doens’t do anything?

    Let’s see, which will help her? Lighting cow farts, fasting, or getting the president to grow a pair and do something?

  79. Regular
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    #
    SolDevVB
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    Oh, brother. I will be floating candles down the Cowskin creek.

    I’ll be lighting cow farts.

    Hey I feel for the woman.

    Wonder why Obama doens’t do anything?

    Let’s see, which will help her? Lighting cow farts, fasting, or getting the president to grow a pair and do something?
    ————————
    Pair of wut?

    (blinks rapidly)

  80. American_Way
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    Carter was impotent in Iran too.
    History repeats itself?

  81. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Pendant says:
    “But Senate Majority Leader Philip Bartlett II said the bill does not compel religious institutions to recognize gay marriage.”

    So? If a gay couple is filling out a tax form and list themselves as a married couple then they don’t need to go to a local church and have the tax form approved by a priest. A lot of religious businesses, or churches, if you will, have a problem accepting basic reality, telling them to notice the fact that gays are human beings capable of having committed, loving relationships will fly over their heads like the germ theory of disease.

  82. Regular
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    Reason not to support partial birth abortion
    (see the photo)
    Aug. 19, 1999: The hand of Samuel Armas, then a 21-week-old fetus, is seen grasping the hand of Dr. Joseph Bruner.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,519181,00.html

  83. Nathaniel
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    Maggotpunk,

    We know gays are humans.
    We know they are capable of having committed and loving relationships.

    They can do that without having the state recognize such a relationship and calling it marriage.

    That is what people like you seem to have a problem accepting.

  84. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    And the real story behind the hand:
    http://www.snopes.com/photos/medical/thehand.asp

    The doctor was just moving it out of the way.

  85. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    Nathan, I’m not the one with the problem accepting people. You’re the one with the religion that says they should all be slaughtered.

  86. Regular
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    #
    Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    And the real story behind the hand:
    http://www.snopes.com/photos/medical/thehand.asp

    The doctor was just moving it out of the way.
    ————————-
    It’s not the point maggot – the child lived and is prospering in good health.

  87. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    Regular, that’s the point of the surgery isn’t it?

  88. Nathaniel
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    Maggotpunk,

    I see you are back to lies again.

    My religion says nothing about slaughtering gays nor do Christians do such a thing.

    Once again, as you posted and lied about, it is that peaceful religion of Islam which kills homosexuals.

    Not Christians.

  89. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    Leviticus 20:13, you should read it Nathan, your spiritual mentor Fred Phelps has it on his signs.

  90. mrcontroversy
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    There is a time when I would have felt the same way, GMC, but when Ahmadinejad was asked by an Italian journalist about the fasts, he reportedly said, “I wish they would all leave us alone”.
    Then I had to join in.
    It’s a MrC thang. You just wouldn’t understand.

  91. Nathaniel
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    Maggotpunk,

    I have read it. If you read the ENTIRE Bible you would know that we no longer follow nor are we bound to Leviticus law.

    Regardless, when was the last time a gay person was killed according to this verse by a Christian?

    Yeah, Phelps may put it on his signs, but when has he ever actually done it? (Nevermind the fact that he is hardly a representation of anything near mainstream Christianity)

    Strike two.

    Liar.

  92. mrcontroversy
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    BTW, Obama has brought it up, and Ahmadinejad told ABC we need to stay out of it.
    But after that, an appeals court mysteriously agreed to hear her appeal May 12.

  93. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    Just doing a quick news search I brought up one from 1999.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2388468/Double-killer-denied-appeal

    But you guys don’t get to kill with abandon anymore thanks to America being a secular nation. Nice though that you get to pick and choose which one of the immutable laws you get to follow. I guess you’ll agree that morals are subjective.

  94. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    Nathan, I’m not the one with the problem accepting people.
    =============================

    Uh huh….

  95. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    It’s okay Anti, the golden rule is one of those pesky Leviticus commandments we don’t have to follow anymore. 19:18 for those Christians who don’t read their bible.

  96. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    Maggotpunk,

    You have more hate in you than all of the ‘CON’s’ that post here!

  97. sursum
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Maggot: In places where aboriton is neither a criminal or moral matter but medical, healthcare institutions or those working in them are not obliged to partake in or assist in abortions if they have any moral qualm,s for many hospitals are faith based.To facilitate the need, specific clinics exist for such procedures. As for gay marriages, no civil servant or religious persons is obliged to perform the ceremony for the same reason, but the plentitude of clergymen or civil servants who do and will, render the matter mute.

  98. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    #
    Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    It’s okay Anti, the golden rule is one of those pesky Leviticus commandments we don’t have to follow anymore. 19:18 for those Christians who don’t read their bible.
    =================================

    Damn, you’re dumb.

  99. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    Nah, I accept you as a citizen who is entitled to civil rights, like being able to get married, not be tortured, not be wiretapped without a warrant, I just don’t like a bunch of you.

  100. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    Anti, Nathan was the one who said Christians don’t need to follow the Golden Rule because it’s in Leviticus. Take your hissy fit up with him.

  101. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    Anti, Nathan was the one who said Christians don’t need to follow the Golden Rule because it’s in Leviticus.
    ===========================

    No he didn’t.

    Damn, you’re dumb.

  102. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

    I think I may have to call up ole Chas and ask him to send you his helmet and bib, Maggotpunk…

  103. SolDevVB
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    not be wiretapped without a warrant

    Obama fixed that yet?

  104. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    Anti, let me quote Nathan for you,
    “I have read it. If you read the ENTIRE Bible you would know that we no longer follow nor are we bound to Leviticus law.”

    I don’t know how he can make it any more clear. Take your problem up with him.

  105. Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    Regular
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:26 pm | Permalink
    Fasting is discriminatory against insulin dependent diabetics.
    ================================

    No siht Sherlock… It is never a good idea for an insulin dependent diabetic to take part in fasting exercises… nor would anybody want them to…

  106. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    “Obama fixed that yet?”

    No, that’s why we needed a liberal in the White House.

  107. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    Maggotpunk,

    I read Nate’s post. You must not have done the same.

    I have no problem with Nate, I am not sure why you do.

  108. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    So Anti, what part did I miss from,
    “I have read it. If you read the ENTIRE Bible you would know that we no longer follow nor are we bound to Leviticus law.”

    Was it supposed to be that Christians do follow Leviticus law?

  109. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    #
    Chas
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    Regular
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 1:26 pm | Permalink
    Fasting is discriminatory against insulin dependent diabetics.
    ================================

    No siht Sherlock… It is never a good idea for an insulin dependent diabetic to take part in fasting exercises… nor would anybody want them to…
    =========================================

    Maggotpunk,

    Welcome to your bedfellows…You are intellectually in the same class.

    (heh heh)

  110. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    Anti, only a dumbass would go fasting, or follow a guy who does so. How’s that savior of yours doing?

  111. fleettwood
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    Ahmadinejad was asked by an Italian journalist about the fasts, he reportedly said, “I wish they would all leave us alone”.
    ______________________________________

    He sounds like a right thinking American.

  112. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:21 pm
    =-===========-1234567=====

    Yeah, you are dumb.

  113. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    How’s that savior of yours doing?
    =================================

    I believe some Romans crucified him.

  114. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    At least I can read Anti.

  115. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    “I believe some Romans crucified him.”

    It’s okay, it was cleared by their lawyers.

  116. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    I think Atheist are fond of staking folks..near as I can tell.

  117. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    I think Atheist are fond of staking folks..near as I can tell.
    =========================

    Oh and homos.

  118. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    Well Maggot, do some home work and maybe you will be relevant.

    As it is now, you are just a Kook.

  119. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    At least I can read Anti.
    =================================

    Sorry, I was raised by liberals…

    I got a trophy for identified the letter ‘A’….

    That is as far as I was allowed to go, didn’t want to make the other kids feel bad.

  120. okobserver
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    The Golden Rule
    by Wayne Blank

    “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you,” known to some as the “golden rule,” is one of the most well-known principles of Christian Living:

    “So whatever you wish that men would do to you, do so to them; for this is the Law and the prophets.” (Matthew 7:12 RSV)
    ——————-
    Maggot this is the reason an atheist shouldn’t be teaching biblical history. You probably don’t know this but Matthew is in the New Testament and therefore isn’t part of the law as printed in Leviticus. Where was our resident pastor Chas when this one slipped past.

  121. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    Gee –

    The CONs’ circle-jerk is in full swing today.

  122. okobserver
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    “We have no rights under the Patriot Act to even defend them, because the Patriot Act basically supersedes the Constitution,” she said. “It wasn’t intended to drag your barely 16-year-old, 120-pound son out in the middle of the night on a charge that we can’t even defend.”

    Passed after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the U.S., the Patriot Act allows federal agents to investigate suspected cases of terrorism swiftly to better protect the country. In part, it gives the federal government more latitude to search telephone records, e-mails and other records.

    “They’re saying that ‘We feel this individual is a terrorist or an enemy combatant against the United States, and we’re going to suspend all of those due process rights because this person is an enemy of the United States,” said Dan Boyce, a defense attorney and former U.S. attorney not connected to the Lundeby case.

    http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/5049867
    ———————-
    Well it looks as if the big O has caught his first bad guy. We are releasing suspected terrorists caught in the act and jailing a 16 year old citizen of the US and he has no rights under our constitution.

    See anything wrong with this picture. The terrorists have rights under our constitution and American citizens don’t. Only under Obama!

  123. okobserver
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:00 pm | Permalink
    Gee –

    The CONs’ circle-jerk is in full swing today.

    —————–
    Monkey this is the kind of post you want me to take seriously. You are nothing but background noise on the blog. Nothing of substance just a lot of buzzing.

  124. GMC70
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    MrC – re: your 1:58 and 2:01

    Understood, and good fasting.

    Hope your fasting brings pain upon Ackminihateeverythingajad and freedom for Ms. Saberi. I’ll be thinking good thoughts about you.

  125. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    Gee –

    The LIBs’ circle-jerk is in full swing today.

    DA.

  126. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    Fasting is a common — frequently religious — symbolic act of empathy. (You know “empathy,” right? “A code word for “Judicial Activism,” according to Oren Hatch.)

    You CONs’ unmitigated contempt for all things “Lib” has you chasing your partisan tails all day every day in this forum.

    I propose we “Libs” start advocating the ban of late-term abortion by firing a handgun through the fetus. Just to see how the CONs respond.

    Who cares if going all Dirty Harry through a pregnant woman’s gut never happens; neither do “partial-birth” abortions.

  127. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:33 pm | Permalink
    ===============

    That was nutty…

  128. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

    I propose we “Libs” start advocating the ban of late-term abortion by firing a handgun through the fetus.
    =================

    That’s funny, cause it is the same thing…you know killin’ the babies.

  129. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

    So I’ll chalk you up, “ANTI,” as being “Pro Late-Term Abortion with a Handgun,” right?

    Welcome to the cause!

  130. okobserver
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    “The Republican Party is in deep trouble,” Powell told corporate security executives at a conference in Washington sponsored by Fortify Software Inc. The party must realize that the country has changed, he said. “Americans do want to pay taxes for services,” he said. “Americans are looking for more government in their life, not less.”

    ————–
    Colin Powell trying to run the GOP from his post in the Obamanation.

    Yep we all want more taxes and more gov.

  131. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    Welcome to the cause!
    ====================

    Yeah about that, I don’t support your cause.

  132. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

    But Monkeyhawk if you want to kill babies, that’s OK…Just don’t go trying to kill any babies I know…You may see a reversal in the situation.

  133. okobserver
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    Bullet through the guts – scissors through the brain stem – which one hurts the most or is the most deadly?

    Not much choice there MH.

    As for fasting – back in the sixties the flower children did this frequently to reconnect to the earth. You know rid the body of the toxins of the day and cleanse their bodies.

    Guess MH you don’t read the right books.

  134. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    “ANTI” –

    You aren’t paying attention.

    I, for one, am against late-term abortions using a handgun.

    You, on the other hand….

  135. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    You aren’t paying attention.
    ===========================

    No, not really.

  136. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    I, for one, am against late-term abortions using a handgun.
    ==================================

    Well, maybe I am on your side!

  137. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    “ANTI” tries –

    “…Just don’t go trying to kill any babies I know.”

    And you “know them in the womb,” right? Just like God.

    I sincerely believe we should outlaw late-term abortions by .44 Magnum, even if it infringes on the doctor’s 2nd Amendment rights.

    You? Not so much.

  138. fleettwood
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:50 pm | Permalink

    I, for one, am against late-term abortions using a handgun.
    ______________________________________

    Our German friends stopped using bullets, as it was too costly. I vote gas chamber.

  139. Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:50 pm | Permalink

    Well it looks as if the big O has caught his first bad guy. We are releasing suspected terrorists caught in the act and jailing a 16 year old citizen of the US and he has no rights under our constitution.

    See anything wrong with this picture. The terrorists have rights under our constitution and American citizens don’t. Only under Obama!
    ===============================================

    okobserver,

    What were your thoughts at the time the Patriot Act was passed in Fall of 2001? Did you pay any attention to people like the ACLU who warned that the act would give too much power to the President and the Federal Government?

  140. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:47 pm | Permalink
    =================

    ?Que?

    Babies produce an enlargement in a woman’s below tits…so, yeah…I know they have a baby on board..

    BTW, .44 Mag is a bit of overkill, fetuses are small, I think they use fishing pliers to kill them these days.

  141. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 3:55 pm | Permalink

    Blog monitor I said “below tits”.

  142. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    I’s OK Monkeyhawk, you can laugh.

  143. fleettwood
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    The White House plans to soon release a photo from the controversial Air Force One-style flyover of Manhattan last week, despite claiming earlier that there was no need to release any official images from the incident.

  144. fleettwood
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    Babies produce an enlargement in a woman’s below tits
    _________________________________________

    Depending what kind of shape she’s in, that would be her waist.

  145. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    I’s OK Monkeyhawk, you can laugh.
    ================

    Invisible ‘t’ in there somewhere.

  146. okobserver
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    “What were your thoughts at the time the Patriot Act was passed in Fall of 2001? Did you pay any attention to people like the ACLU who warned that the act would give too much power to the President and the Federal Government?”
    ————————–

    Daniel passing an act and using it prudently are very different than abusing it as Napolitano is doing.

    Show me the arrest records under Bush using the Patriot Act. Do they include any 16 year olds.

  147. Pedant
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    leettwood
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 4:05 pm | Permalink
    The White House plans to soon release a photo from the controversial Air Force One-style flyover of Manhattan last week, despite claiming earlier that there was no need to release any official images from the incident.

    Yeah, that’s an excellent way to defuse the issue. I’m surprised they didn’t think of it sooner. (actually, they probably did)

    That Obama, he ain’t too shabby for a noob, you know that?

    lol

  148. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    okobserver, I’ve already referenced the golden rule, it’s not my fault you can’t read it. I suppose I could quote it, but doing so would mean that I came up with it; in your mind anyway.

  149. fleettwood
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    Protesters Blast Congress for Axing D.C. Vouchers While Sending Own Kids to Private School
    ______________________________________

    Maybe they aren’t axing them nice enough.

  150. okobserver
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    Maggot you referenced ‘The Golden Rule’ that was in Levticus. There ain’t no such animal. Not my fault you can’t read your own writing.

  151. fleettwood
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    I’s OK Monkeyhawk, you can laugh.
    _______________________

    You’s OK with me, Anti.

  152. okobserver
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    Pedant one of the things that bothers me most about Obama is his attempt at keeping things private that aren’t. He will release anything which will make the Bush administration look bad but withholds those things that makes his administration look like the keystone cops.

    Transparent he isn’t. He was pushed into revealing the pics or he never would have. FOX news filed under the freedom of information act to force their hand. Looks like it worked.

  153. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    “ANTI” and “fleettwood” channel their inner David Duke with –

    “I’s OK….”

    and

    “Maybe they aren’t axing them nice enough.”

    Just one question:

    Do you sleep on your sheets before or after you wear them to your meetings?

  154. okobserver
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    MH still waiting for something substantive. If you want to be considered a serious poster then you have to show a post with debatable points and not one line zingers.

  155. Posted May 6, 2009 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    Daniel passing an act and using it prudently are very different than abusing it as Napolitano is doing.

    Show me the arrest records under Bush using the Patriot Act. Do they include any 16 year olds.
    ===============================================

    The kid is accused of making a bomb threat. If he were on trial for murder, in most states, he would be tried as an adult.

    You should never assume that politicians are going to use power given up willingly in a prudent manner. Just to be clear, I’m not in favor of the way this kid is being treated and I think the passage of the Patriot Act was a huge mistake.

    I have a friend who is a hardcore Republican and he was unconcerned with the Patriot Act, warrant less wiretaps, the President being able to declare anyone an enemy combatant, etc… right up until the mid-term elections in 2006 and he began to see the writing on the wall that the GOP was going to lose the Whitehouse in 2008. His great fear was that Hillary was going to be elected and would have all this power at her disposal. He realized that it was too late and that we all should have been more vigilant in defending our Constitutional freedoms. You have to take the long view and realize that the party you favor won’t always be in power.

    I have absolutely no sympathy for those who cheered while these freedoms were given up willingly by our representatives in Washington and cry about it now.

  156. fleettwood
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    “ANTI” and “fleettwood” channel their inner David Duke with –
    ______________________________

    I was imitating southern white rednecks.
    I don’t think making fun of black people is helpful.

  157. okobserver
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    Daniel even now I think there is a place for the Patriot Act. Our intelligence organizations need this tool to find the very real terrorists among us. They arent the prolifers. They arent our returning soldiers. They arent people who are to the right of Napolitano.

    We have to have sharp people in places of authority and she has proven at everyturn that she isn’t sharp.

    If indeed his IP address was compromised this can be proven very quickly. By now they should know this.

    Its not the act that scares me it is the people using the act that frighten me to death.

  158. Posted May 6, 2009 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    Its not the act that scares me it is the people using the act that frighten me to death.
    ================================================

    What enables them to use the act? The act. Why give any politician, regardless of political stripe, that kind of unchecked power? Ultimately, it will be abused.

    IMO, you are way too trusting of government.

  159. parkay
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    “If this be trespass, then forgive us our trespasses and join us in trespassing until the South Bend jail is filled to overflowing with witnesses to truth; filled beyond capacity; filled until we break the most onerous shackles of all — the ones that bind the heart and mind to evil and our nation to the path of its destruction,”
    . . . Dr. Alan Keyes
    . . .
    Pro-lifers are planning mass arrests at Obamanation’s speech at Notre Dame’s commencement on May 17 in South Bend, IN.
    - – -

    Misguided children’s author Judy Blume this year advocates honoring mothers who contract the killing of their children with a Mother’s Day donation to unsafe, criminal Planned Parenthood abortion mills.
    - – -

    In a short break from reporting extensively on whether Obamanation takes cheddar or Swiss on his burger, the media has decided that the USofA needs a baby-hating left-wing Hispanic woman on the Supreme Court.
    - – -

    William Brian Prowant Jr., 21, of Watsontown, PA faces numerous charges, including aggravated assault on an unborn child, for beating, pushing, and choking his 36-weeks-pregnant ex-girlfriend Kelly Wolfcale.

  160. Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    Interview with James Kenneth Galbraith on why the economy collapsed–

    Matt Renner: In an interview with Bill Moyers, bank regulation expert William K. Black did not hedge in describing the Wall Street collapse as a result of massive fraud starting in the board rooms and CEO offices of Wall Street. What is your take on this? Has the American economy fallen victim to a group of confidence men?

    JKG: Bill Black is a comprehensive expert on the subject of bank fraud. He is not prone to exaggeration or polemic. He is a lawyer and criminologist who uses words with considerable precision. One of the things that Bill has noted is that as far back as 2004, the FBI warned that there was an epidemic of mortgage fraud on the way. The administration failed to do anything about it and did not give the FBI the direction and the resources required to make dealing with white-collar fraud a priority.

    So, you had fraud in the origination of the mortgages, fraud in the underwriting. You also had fraud in the ratings agencies, which were operating according to a business model where they did not get paid unless they issued the favorable ratings, and they issued ratings on assets they could not examine. They examined using statistical methods and did not look at the underlying documents to asses the possibilities that the assets they were rating were rotten to the core.

    But of course they were. A subprime mortgage is an intrinsically problematic instrument. It is an loan issued to people who can’t document their incomes, whose credit histories are bad, and were issued on assets whose values were systematically inflated.

    MR: Do you think this fraud was a plan?

    JKG: Sure it was! There was a whole class of lenders out there, many of whom were completely unregulated, the Countrywide Financials of the world, others of whom should have been regulated but were effectively desupervized, the Indymacs and the Washington Mutuals, where the business model was “push those bonuses out the door, get as many of them signed up as possible because if they pay for the first 30 days, we can sell them and pocket the fees. After that, it isn’t our responsibility.”

    Systematically, in this industry, the people who previously specialized in risk management used to say, “show me the documents proving that this will be a safe mortgage,” were given instructions by top management, “get out of the way, and get these mortgages issued.” There are plenty of records showing that these lenders were told to drop the standards. That was the revenue model for the institution. You have a model which is fraud in origination, fraud in the conveyance and fraud in the rates.

  161. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    Right on time, Five O’Clock Charley “parkay!”

  162. Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    “Deuteronomy 6:5 (Whole Chapter)
    ” [Matt 22:37; Mark 12:30; Luke 10:27] You shall love the LORD your God [Deut 4:29; 10:12] with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.”

    Luke 10:27 (Whole Chapter)
    And he answered, ” [Deut 6:5; Lev 19:18] YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND; AND YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.”

    Passage Leviticus 19:18:

    18′(A)You shall not take vengeance, (B)nor bear any grudge against the sons of your people, but (C)you shall love your neighbor as yourself; I am the LORD.

  163. Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    Yep, parkay, the Blog Bot… must have it set on a timer… LOL

  164. okobserver
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    So Capn you are finally admitting what conservatives have been saying since last year. Our senators and congressmen made a climate rich for fraud to take place.

    Mortgage lenders were given instructions to ‘overlook’ the lack of documentation about income and credit ratings. The Countrywides of the industry operated under the protection of the Chris Dodds of the world. Fannie and Freddie were pronounced healthy eventhough it was apparent that they really werent.

    No one party gets all of the blame but they both share in it. When we recognize the problem we can make the necessary steps to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

  165. BlueJay
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    “If you want to be considered a serious poster …”

    What? Okobserver(ksgrm), many times busted liar posted WHAT?

    It’s good you hold yourself in such esteem. Everyone should have at least ONE person who takes them seriously, even if it is only their self! Yeesh!

    Kind words earlier Chas, thank you. But I can take anything the cons can dish out. Beating up on a single dad trying to make his way in the world speaks volumes about them and I am not bothered by it considering the source.

  166. Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    Hehehe, turns out that Scalia, who has argued against privacy for individuals repeatedly, gave a little talk at Fordham U.

    One of the privacy law professors there presented Scalia a dossier of all the information he and his students had gathered on Scalia, thanks to Scalia’s rulings:

    “His class turned in a 15-page dossier that included not only Scalia’s home address, home phone number and home value, but his food and movie preferences, his wife’s personal e-mail address and photos of his grandchildren, reports Above the Law.”

    Turns out that Scalia was hopping mad that someone would do to him what he allowed his side to do to others.

  167. Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    I know BlueJay too, and I can verify what Chas wrote is true.

    BTW, Regular lies when he says that XXX provided BlueJay with a computer. BlueJay bought his own computer.

    “Beating up on a single dad trying to make his way in the world speaks volumes about them and I am not bothered by it considering the source.”

    Amen to that.

  168. Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    Since mercury from coal fired plants is one of the main sources of mercury toxin for the unborn child in the US, Parkay and his other “save the baby” pals must be working night and day to stop this abomination, right?

    Uh, nah. Not so much . . .

  169. Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    ‘Course every brain-damaged kid means another CONservative voter, so that tends to dampen their motivation.

  170. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    Do you sleep on your sheets before or after you wear them to your meetings?
    ==============================

    I sleep on them before your fat a&& wife puts them on….I am that long.

  171. okobserver
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    Chas what is the Golden Rule? What is the pack of scriptures you just printed supposed to mean.

    The Golden Rule

    “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you,” known to some as the “golden rule,” is one of the most well-known principles of Christian Living:

    “So whatever you wish that men would do to you, do so to them; for this is the Law and the prophets.” (Matthew 7:12 RSV)
    ————–
    Very simple and straight forward and not found in Leviticus.

  172. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    Seriously Monkeyhawk, like a garden hose…snakey.

  173. okobserver
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    Capn since I am one of BJs favorite target I will make a vow to not talk about his lifestyle as long as he doesn’t get into the personal lifes of other bloggers.

    I can respect anyone who works for a living. I can respect anyone who has the guts to start their own business. I can’t respect someone who tries to put down everyone who doesn’t share their ideological beliefs.

    Truce for now.

  174. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    as he doesn’t get into the personal lifes of other bloggers.
    =======================

    If he tries again, I will be there to stop it.

  175. okobserver
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:36 pm | Permalink

    Sounds like a deal Anti.

  176. American_Way
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:37 pm | Permalink

    “””’BTW, Regular lies when he says that XXX provided BlueJay with a computer””””””’

    Regular, I remember the post too. It would go back over one full year, and JR posted it himself thanking XXX, I believe.

    Bluejay should at least tell CapnAmerica the truth on this one.

    You guys gang up on Regular and have your differences – but at least admit it when you call someone a liar, when they are not. You may “have” posters on other lies – but this isn’t one of them…..

  177. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:38 pm | Permalink

    Sounds like a deal Anti.
    =========================

    Well, it is what it is.

    I don’t bluff.

  178. American_Way
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    I remember it because it was around the time I started posting here. I’m thinking summer of 2007?
    2006? Shortly before Capn declared the protest and demanded the blog be monitored.

    JR announced his arrival, that he had come to “save the day” (yes, like Mighty Mouse), and thanks XXX for a computer. Now that may not be the same one Bluejay uses today – but at the time it was true.

  179. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    Well, I gotta go catch some bait and load a boat..have fun…

    I’ll be eatin’ good come breakfast time!

  180. BlueJay
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    I don’t intend to give any quarter (look it up) and I don’t ask for any either.

    I sure as hell aint intimidated by “ANTI”.

    My friend Capn America is actually partly correct. XXX did give me a computer. I then bought another one very shortly after.

  181. Regular
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    #
    ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    Well, I gotta go catch some bait and load a boat..have fun…

    I’ll be eatin’ good come breakfast time!
    ——————
    Don’t forget the DEET!(insect repellent)

  182. okobserver
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    So BJ you are saying that your are making Chas, Capn an Anti look foolish for trying to bring civility to the blog.

    I just want to know the ground rules before the games start.

  183. BlueJay
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    “#

    Well, it is what it is.

    I don’t bluff.
    #

    Neither do I Hank.

    Neither do I.

  184. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    “ANTI” exposes –

    “Seriously Monkeyhawk, like a garden hose…snakey.”

    But not erect, apparently.

  185. BlueJay
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    I thank Chas and Capn for their friendship and their support.

    I don’t need anything of “ANTI”.

    You take whatever shot at me you want okie.

  186. BlueJay
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    And with that, my son and I need to go help the neighbor lady. It’s too nice a day for this.

  187. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    Neither do I Hank.

    Neither do I.
    =================

    I check in and what do I see,

    I am not Hank today, BlueJay.

    Monkeyhawk, your wife is still a w hore.

    She doesn’t taste as good as the fish I’m about to catch!

    Sleep well, bait.

  188. ANTI
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    Gotta go, peace out.

  189. Phantom
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    Show me the arrest records under Bush using the Patriot Act. Do they include any 16 year olds.
    Bush wouldn’t leave any record, so you’ll have to check and see how many 16 yr. olds were swallowed up by the streets (extraordinary rendition style).
    You’ll never know the extent to which bush abused the act unless we have a public trial.

  190. Phantom
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 7:04 pm | Permalink

    Ahhh repubs, they support the patriot act,massive spending, unitarist presidency, and the appointing of idelogues to the S.C., until they don’t. And, when they don’t it’s the other sides turn

  191. Boxlock20
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    Now this is simply beautiful.

    Beautiful in it’s direct simplicity and accuracy in describing the capitalistic system as apposed to…ah, more advance thinking liberal systems.
    Please watch and listen….it’s short but wonderfully accurate and direct.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A

  192. BlueJay
    Posted May 6, 2009 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    “I am not Hank today, BlueJay.”

    Yes, we can see that.

  193. Posted May 6, 2009 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    Okie, do you not remember the circumstances under which Jesus spoke what has been called “the golden rule”?

    He had been asked which was the greatest law… He answered with: “You shall love the Lord your God….” AFTER which he said, “A second is like it: And you shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

    Now, those quotes I posted earlier are the OT sources of the “golden rule” — as they would have been quoted by Jesus from the Hebrew Masoretic Text.

    Dont try arguing with me on this one… please.

  194. Posted May 6, 2009 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    good night; good luck; god bless –
    whatever you conceive god to be!!

    blessings all!!

    so mote it be!!

  195. Barnie
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:33 am | Permalink

    Now is the time to Legalize Hemp and Marijuana.

    Doobie, doobie, doo, strangers in the night, exchanging glances, scooby doobie doobie doo, what were the chances, doobie, doobie, doobie, doo, something in your eyes, scooby doobie scooby doo, hsssss, hss, hss, hss, cough cough ack

    DARE to say NO to your kids.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbsBj8NRufw

  196. Barnie
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:35 am | Permalink

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wixlfPnxJTo&NR=1

  197. Jed
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 2:02 am | Permalink

    “Daniel even now I think there is a place for the Patriot Act. Our intelligence organizations need this tool to find the very real terrorists among us.” -granny-

    One of the most interesting disconnects I’ve run across is this utter support of above-the-law wiretapping rendition and torture by the same knuckleheads who have to have their guns to protect them from the black-helicopter people the government sends out to wiretap, render and torture. Is somebody out there still performing lobotomies?

  198. Posted June 4, 2009 at 2:58 am | Permalink

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