Jerk of the year award goes to Bill Donahue. In an interview on an Irish station, he claims that priests never raped children and those who claim so are just gold diggers. Even the Catholic Church disagrees with him but Donahue says the kids were just slapped on the ass or the temperature in the room was too cold, there wasn’t rape.
Thank goodness the Irish are smart enough to know that Donahue represents only Donahue and you’d be hard pressed to find anyone in America who thinks like him.
Brought over from the ‘OPINION’ section because it is so worthy.
Be accountable
“Life is full of choices, from the time we are children until we complete our journey in this life. If we are truly honest with ourselves, our lot in life is largely a collection of all the choices we make along the way.
Yet it seems an increasing number of people don’t wish to be accountable for their choices. They want, and even expect, that someone else should be accountable and liable for the consequences of their poor choices. They support the notion that government — through legislation, executive order or the courts — should intervene on their behalf to cover their losses by taking from those who have made better choices.
Setting the morality of this notion aside, this movement toward involuntary “redistribution of wealth” is a very slippery slope for society and our country. When we adopt a philosophy that we don’t have to be accountable for our choices, we are destined for collective failure as individuals and as a society.”
The high costs Japan would incur if Tokyo promises to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 25 percent from 1990 levels by 2020 would be hard for the public to accept during the recession, Prime Minister Taro Aso said on Friday. His comments showed there was still no consensus within the government after Environment Minister Tetsuo Saito said earlier this week that setting a mid-term target for cuts in a range of 15 to 25 percent was one option.
Aso has said he would announce Japan’s mid-term target by mid-June, so he can set out Japan’s views at a July meeting of G8 leaders and a U.N. conference in December that is meant to agree a new global climate pact to replace the Kyoto Protocol.
Japan, the world’s fifth largest emitter, is under great pressure from developing nations to show leadership by opting for deep emissions reductions to ensure a strong outcome in December’s gathering in the Danish capital Copenhagen. A panel of experts, professors and industry officials has presented Aso with a choice of six target options relative to 1990 levels. It said that curbing carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions by regulations or other measures would boost energy costs, increase job losses and thus have a net negative impact on the economy.
The other five options, ranging from an increase of 4 percent to a cut of 15 percent, all fall short of a 25-40 percent cut required of rich nations by a U.N. panel of scientists to minimise the risk of the worst impacts of global warming. “At a time of deep recession like this, it would be difficult to ignore the (larger) costs for the public to bear,” Aso said, when asked about the minus 25 percent option. “To trust their morale only would not be the resolution,” Aso told a budget committee in Friday’s parliament session.
Aso referred to an assessment by economists of the effect of each option on the economy, which showed under the minus 25 percent target scenario, energy costs in 2020 would be 140,000 yen ($1,453) per household per year more than those under the weakest one. The same estimate also showed annual disposable income per household would be 220,000 yen less than that under the weakest option, in which users are allowed to keep the current pace of buying low-emission goods and facilities, resulting in emissions exceeding by 4 percent from 1990 levels by 2020.
Aso also told the same committee that he would take into account that the plus 4 percent option attracted the largest number of comments from the public in the past month.
How to gauge voters’ views is critical for Aso as public opinion polls put the opposition Democrats ahead of his Liberal Democratic Party in the run-up to an election, which many speculate will be in August and must be held by October.
An international panel of experts led by NOAA and sponsored by NASA has released a new prediction for the next solar cycle. Solar Cycle 24 will peak, they say, in May 2013 with a below-average number of sunspots. “If our prediction is correct, Solar Cycle 24 will have a peak sunspot number of 90, the lowest of any cycle since 1928 when Solar Cycle 16 peaked at 78,” says panel chairman Doug Biesecker of the NOAA Space Weather Prediction Center.
It is tempting to describe such a cycle as “weak” or “mild,” but that could give the wrong impression. “Even a below-average cycle is capable of producing severe space weather,” points out Biesecker. “The great geomagnetic storm of 1859, for instance, occurred during a solar cycle of about the same size we’re predicting for 2013.”…
The latest forecast revises an earlier prediction issued in 2007. At that time, a sharply divided panel believed solar minimum would come in March 2008 followed by either a strong solar maximum in 2011 or a weak solar maximum in 2012. Competing models gave different answers, and researchers were eager for the sun to reveal which was correct.
“It turns out that none of our models were totally correct,” says Dean Pesnell of the Goddard Space Flight Center, NASA’s lead representative on the panel. “The sun is behaving in an unexpected and very interesting way.”
HERE’S A GOOD QUESTION: HOW MANY IPCC SCIENTISTS FABRICATE AND FALSIFY RESEARCH?
It’s a surprisingly common phenomenon generally and the way Warmist scientists repeatedly refuse to release their raw data and details of their analytical procedures tells its own story
It’s a long-standing and crucial question that, as yet, remains unanswered: just how common is scientific misconduct? In the online, open-access journal PLoS ONE, Daniele Fanelli of the University of Edinburgh reports the first meta-analysis of surveys questioning scientists about their misbehaviours. The results suggest that altering or making up data is more frequent than previously estimated and might be particularly high in medical research. [That I can believe. Any reader of my FOOD & HEALTH SKEPTIC blog will know of the low to juvenile standards in medical research]
Recent scandals like Hwang Woo-Suk’s fake stem-cell lines or Jon Sudbø’s made-up cancer trials have dramatically demonstrated that fraudulent research is very easy to publish, even in the most prestigious journals. The media and many scientists tend to explain away these cases as pathological deviations of a few “bad apples.” Common sense and increasing evidence, however, suggest that these could be just the tip of the iceberg, because fraud and other more subtle forms of misconduct might be relatively frequent. The actual numbers, however, are a matter of great controversy.
Estimates based on indirect data (for example, official retractions of scientific papers or random data audits) have produced largely discrepant results. Therefore, many researchers have asked scientists directly, with surveys conducted in different countries and disciplines. However, they have used different methods and asked different questions, so their results also appeared inconclusive.
To make these surveys comparable, the meta-analysis focused on behaviours that actually distort scientific knowledge (excluding data on plagiarism and other kinds of malpractice) and extracted the frequency of scientists who recalled having committed a particular behaviour at least once, or who knew a colleague who did.
On average, across the surveys, around 2% of scientists admitted they had “fabricated” (made up), “falsified” or “altered” data to “improve the outcome” at least once, and up to 34% admitted to other questionable research practices including “failing to present data that contradict one’s own previous research” and “dropping observations or data points from analyses based on a gut feeling that they were inaccurate.”
In surveys that asked about the behaviour of colleagues, 14% knew someone who had fabricated, falsified or altered data, and up to 72% knew someone who had committed other questionable research practices.
In both kinds of surveys, misconduct was reported most frequently by medical and pharmacological researchers. This suggests that either the latter are more open and honest in their answers, or that frauds and bias are more frequent in their fields. The latter interpretation would support growing fears that industrial sponsorship is severely distorting scientific evidence to promote commercial treatments and drugs.
As in all surveys asking sensitive questions, it is likely that some respondents did not reply honestly, especially when asked about their own behaviour. Therefore, a frequency of 2% is probably a conservative estimate, while it remains unclear how the figure of 14% should be interpreted.
“First, we will expand the restriction on oral communications to cover all persons, not just federally registered lobbyists. For the first time, we will reach contacts not only by registered lobbyists but also by unregistered ones, as well as anyone else exerting influence on the process. We concluded this was necessary under the unique circumstances of the stimulus program.”
JIM MANZI: WAXMAN-MARKEY CLIMATE BILL CANNOT SURVIVE COST-BENFIT ANALYSIS
Democrats in the White House and Congress are now making the most serious push ever for legislation to force reductions of U.S. carbon-dioxide emissions. The stated purpose is to reduce potential future harm from human-caused climate change, and the vehicle is a climate-and-energy bill commonly referred to as Waxman-Markey. But the reasoning behind this proposal is innumerate, even if we accept the scientific and economic assumptions of its advocates.
According to the authoritative U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), under a reasonable set of assumptions for global economic and population growth, the world should expect to warm by about 2.8°C over the next century. Also according to the IPCC, a global increase in temperature of 4°C should cause the world to lose about 3 percent of its economic output. So if we do not take measures to ameliorate global warming, the world should expect to be about 3 percent poorer sometime in the 22nd century than it otherwise would be. This is very far from the rhetoric of global destruction. Because of its geographical position and mix of economic activities, the United States is expected to experience no net economic costs from such warming through the end of this century, and to begin experiencing net costs only thereafter.
A government program to force emissions reductions to avoid some of these potential future losses would impose a cost of its own: the loss in consumption we would experience if we used less energy, substituted higher-cost sources of energy for fossil fuels, and paid for projects — which are termed “offsets” — to ameliorate the effect of emissions (an example would be planting lots of trees). It’s complicated to estimate the cost of an emissions-reduction program, but the leading economists in this area generally agree that it would be large, and that we should simply let most emissions happen, because it would be more expensive to avoid them than to accept the damage they would cause. This makes sense, if you consider that most such plans (for example, Waxman-Markey) call for eliminating something like 80 percent of carbon emissions within the next 40 years or so. Even if the economy becomes more efficient over this period, such a quick transition away from our primary fossil-fuel sources will be expensive.
If a) the total potential benefit of emissions abatement is about 3 percent of economic output more than 100 years from now, b) we can avoid only some of this damage, and c) it’s expensive to prevent those emissions that we can prevent, the net benefit of emissions reduction will likely be a very small fraction of total economic output. William Nordhaus, who heads the widely respected environmental-economics-modeling group at Yale, estimates the total expected net benefit of an optimally designed, implemented, and enforced global program to be equal to the present value of about 0.2 percent of future global economic consumption. In the real world of domestic politics and geostrategic competition, it is not realistic to expect that we would ever have an optimally designed, implemented, and enforced global system, and the side deals made to put in place even an imperfect system would likely have costs that would dwarf 0.2 percent of global economic consumption. The expected benefits of emissions mitigation do not cover its expected costs. This is the root reason that proposals to mitigate emissions have such a hard time justifying themselves economically.
The mechanism for mitigation proposed in the Waxman-Markey bill is a “cap and trade” plan. The idea is quite simple: The government sets a fixed annual limit to total carbon-dioxide emissions and distributes ration cards for the right to emit a portion of this amount (that’s the “cap”); it also allows those who receive ration cards to sell them (that’s the “trade”). Now, “distributes” is an artfully chosen word: How would the government decide who gets the ration cards? One method is to sell them; another is to give them away, theoretically based on some objective criterion such as historical emissions, but in practice more likely based on campaign contributions. Waxman-Markey doesn’t specify how the distributing is to be accomplished. The Obama administration expects to sell ration cards, bringing the government $80 billion a year in revenue over the next decade. This revenue represents a cost increase for more or less any company that uses lots of fossil-fuel energy in one way or another (i.e., most of the economy). Like all raw-material cost increases, these will be passed along to consumers in the form of higher prices. So in reality this is a backdoor tax on energy that conscripts private companies into being collection agents.
Would these costs be justified by the benefits we could expect Waxman-Markey to create? No, for the reasons outlined above.
Why do you continually befoul the bonhomie like this by placing the image of Donahue in my tender retinal regions this morning, Maggot Punk?
I can’t be sure, but it’s probably not like you’ve been dealt such an awful hand in life. I can’t be sure, but you’re probably not one of those fat, mentally challenged young men who’s been kept chained in his mother’s basement for years, only brought outside for the annual family picture and such…..
Oh well, if I understood everthang in this up-#$%@ed world of ours, I’d be sanctified, beatified and beautified…
Anyway, as I do not have my home PC any longer and am forced to trot on over to Kinko’s every bleeping time I wanna use the ‘puter, and it seems the Blog’s censors are after my a– with a Valhallic vengeance of late….
I missed my brother’s call yesterday; I was out buying some lovely over-the-cringe-worthy-counter crap for this lovely affliction brought about my opiate painkillers. (PRESCRIBED painkillers).
He hasn’t called back – but that’s OK. I’ve sort of braced myself for that possibility.
Okay – gotta break this up – those cruel, gullible, malleable(?) censors are probably gonna bite…..
In pondering our history – and in evaluating some of the mistakes I’ve made in my own life (INSERT: I don’t think any of ‘em are bad enough to ban me from this Blog. Just in case anyone is tryin’ to do that…..)
In looking back over the last two years my brother and I did communicate: It was all quite one-sided. All efforts were instigated by me. I offered him my phone number, when it was manifest he had no interest in calling (he didn’t).
Any sort of relationship has to be mutual – to be mutually respectful. I do not believe I have actually hurt anyone or been intentionally direspectful, but the truth is – I’ve been disrespectful.
If it’s obvious that the emotional temperature is zero (or sub-zero), one should probably recognize that and proceed accordingly.
I don’t know if the emotional temp is any different than it was in the mid-1990’s. At least I have extended the olive branch.
That way, if one of us croaks before the decade is out, at least I’ll know I’ve made an effort.
I’ve made mistakes in the past. Mature, responsible adults should learn from their mistakes and avoid repeating them.
I sincerely hope that whomever shot Dr. Tiller this morning, is found, tried, and put to death.
WHile I did not agree with Dr. Tiller’s preactice in general, it doesn;t freaking matter. He was providing a legal service, that was apparently needed or wanted by his clients. He deserved to be left alone in his private life, and really, at his clinic.
Wow. That’s pretty messed up. Well I’m speechless. That’s a really nice church to, had to be devastating to everybody attending this morning. I send my condolences as well to the church, and Tiller’s family.
All endeavors on the path of reconciliation are not in vain, even if the only healing is of your mind and soul in knowing that you know you have tried. May God bless those endeavors.
First Couple’s NY Date: a Campaign Promise Kept
Have plane, will travel: Obamas head to Broadway for dinner and a play
The president and first lady jetted to a date in New York late Saturday afternoon, aides and media in tow.
“I am taking my wife to New York City because I promised her during the campaign that I would take her to a Broadway show after it was all finished,” the president said in a statement an aide read to the press.
After dining a little more than two hours at Blue Hill, a West Village restaurant touted by New York magazine as a “seminal Greenmarket haven” that features food grown by chef and owner Dan Barber on his upstate farm, the president and first lady headed to the Belasco Theater to make it in time for “Joe Turner’s Come and Gone.”
The play by August Wilson is about black America in the early 1900s, with residents of a boardinghouse recalling their migration from the sharecropping farms of the South to the industrialized North.
George Tiller, the Wichita doctor who became a national lightning rod in the debate over abortion, was shot to death this morning as he walked into church services.
What’s really “appropriate” would be to open fire on advocates of illegal abortion and some bombings of their homes, offices and churches. But we “libruhls” aren’t always “appropriate.”
Yeah, I really want revenge. I want retribution. I want to respond in kind.
But I’m a “libruhl.” I’m civilized. I’ll let the justice system take its course. I’ll live with the decision of a judge and jury.
I might not like it. (I might.)
I might complain about it for a long time. (Count on it.)
But I’m not gonna bomb the offices of advocates of illegal abortion. I’m not gonna be the one who gets “parkay” or Brenda Landwehr strapping on bullet-proof vests from now on.
Nope.
I’m just going to use this as an example CONs are getting desperate and violent and insane. (Not necessarily in that order.)
“What’s really “appropriate” would be to open fire on advocates of illegal abortion and some bombings of their homes, offices and churches. But we “libruhls” aren’t always “appropriate.”
Yeah, I really want revenge. I want retribution. I want to respond in kind. “
“Happy aint ya bawks? You people have been wishing for this for years.”—BlueJay
Not happy, but sad that our society is in such bad shape, and sad for everyone involved.
Sad that his killing of innocent life drove someone else to take human life.
That said, I have had the feeling this was inevitable sooner or later.
You know there are so few doctors who will take care of women who truly need a late term abortion and now we have one less. What the hell is wrong with you freaks! This is lifesaving he did. He wasn’t the monster you antis made him out to be.
This environment is like a gang, they breed this kind of hatred for abortion providers and they should all be charged.
Interesting that we don’t know who killed Dr. Tiller or why but the radical left wing nitwits on the BLOG have already used the misfortune of his death to spew their irrational hate toward Christians, conservatives and anyone with the intellectual capacity to disagree with their radical liberal agenda.
If the murderer of Dr Tiller turns out to be a democrat that was the victim of a botched abortion how will they defend their irrational hate?
ON MEMORIAL Day, North Korea tested a nuclear weapon for the second time. President Obama issued a statement describing this as “a matter of grave concern to all nations” and then went off to play a round of golf.
“By acting in blatant defiance of the United Nations Security Council, North Korea is directly and reckless challenging the international community,” he said.
In an emergency meeting Monday, the U.N. Security Council called the test a “clear violation” of a 2006 council resolution forbidding such tests.
The North Koreans, always desperate for money and unscrupulous about how to obtain it, have been assisting Iran and Syria in their pursuit of nuclear weapons and would sell nuclear technology to al-Qaeda if their palms were crossed with enough silver. For South Korea and Japan, the stakes are higher.
I suspect the North Koreans continue to defy the “international community” because they expect the torrent of words to be followed by more words. Mr. Obama’s statement, and that of the U.N. Security Council, suggest this is the case.
For its part, the Security Council said it was considering another resolution. These are not threats which make dictators quake in their boots.
The North Koreans’ defiance of the United States and United Nations is nothing new. They have been a thorn in the side of every U.S. president from Harry Truman on. What is new – or was – was Mr. Obama’s naive and egotistical belief he could change North Korean behavior by reaching out to them.
“The new nuclear test carried out by North Korea demonstrates the complete failure, so far, of U.S. President Barack Obama’s softly, softly diplomacy and willingness to start afresh with old enemies,” wrote Australian journalist Greg Sheridan.
Defiance has worked well for the North Koreans because the typical response has been to try to bribe them into better behavior. Bribery reached its height during the Clinton administration, when President Bill Clinton offered them free food and fuel oil, and to build two nuclear electric generating plants, if they would shutter their nuclear weapons plant at Yongbyon.
The North Koreans agreed, but began cheating right away.
“Pyongyang may well be able to sell its Yongbyon reactor to the Americans for a third time, only to continue with nuclear activities at other sites and to reopen Yongbyon when the new agreement inevitably collapses,” Mr. Sheridan wrote.
The North Koreans have to be encouraged by President Obama’s apparent commitment to continue in the six-party talks (Russia, China, Japan, South Korea, North Korea, the United States) despite the test.
In a May 20 article in the Wall Street Journal, former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton predicted the nuclear test, which appears to have caught the Obama Administration by surprise.
“If the next nuclear explosion doesn’t derail the six party-talks, [North Korean dictator] Kim [Jong Il] will rightly conclude that he faces no real danger of ever having to dismantle his weapons program,” Mr. Bolton said. “Negotiations like the six-party talks are a charade and reflect a continuing collapse of American resolve.”
This should be a proud day for conservatives. What they couldn’t accomplish in court they accomplished at gun point.
No need for the phony condolences. This was done by one of your kind; one of you.
The fundamentalist Christian community is the enemy of freedom loving Americans. They can’t be treated as fellow Americans with an unusual point of view.
On Golf Course, President Obama Pauses for Moment of Silent Prayer
May 25, 2009 6:43 PM
ABC News’ Jake Tapper and Karen Travers report: In his remarks at Arlington National Cemetery this morning, President Obama called on all Americans to observe Memorial Day, a day of “silent remembrance and solemn prayer,” by pausing for a moment of national unity at 3 pm this afternoon.
For President Obama that moment came in the middle of a round of golf at Ft. Belvoir in Virginia.
The president spent around four hours on the links this afternoon — arriving around 1:30 and leaving just before 5:30 — staying in Washington after the ceremony at Arlington instead of flying back to Camp David as he was originally scheduled.
White House aides told reporters that the president paused at 3 p.m. to observe a moment of silent prayer.
The killing of George Tiller today marks a sad day in the pro-life movement. Before the left begins their tirades this is not the work of dedicated pro-life advocates.
HLP
Posted May 31, 2009 at 11:52 am | Permalink
Interesting that we don’t know who killed Dr. Tiller or why but the radical left wing nitwits on the BLOG have already used the misfortune of his death to spew their irrational hate toward Christians, conservatives and anyone with the intellectual capacity to disagree with their radical liberal agenda.
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Fanantical aren’t they? You can see them working themselves into a frenzy.
Interesting case study in the Liberal Brain Washed Mind, and how they might be stirred-up in the future, say by a passionate and eloquent speaker at a rally.
This should be a proud day for conservatives. What they couldn’t accomplish in court they accomplished at gun point.
No need for the phony condolences. This was done by one of your kind; one of you.
Today, hate wins.
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Really, XXX?
Who killed Tiller? What was his religious affiliation? What was his political affiliation?
Do you know or do you merely hope you know like Monkeyhawk?
Tiller was a scourge on the earth. I think he was a murderer and I do not mourn his passing. That being said, I don’t condone his murder.
XXX
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:01 pm | Permalink
This should be a proud day for conservatives. What they couldn’t accomplish in court they accomplished at gun point.
No need for the phony condolences. This was done by one of your kind; one of you.
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It will be one more bullet to be fired against Christians and the pro-life. The anger and hate will associate even those who are a gasp at the violence taken. Those that commit such acts as the bombings and killings do not see that by doing so they are causing the damning of their cause and their faith.
Claiming to be doing so in the defense of moral high ground and also taking the name of the Lord thy God in vain so they are doing it in the name of the Lord. There will be shame to be had, for even at the outcry there will be deep inside many who will say he had it coming.
A new poster child for the pro-life will be found a new enemy to focus on.
Nothing has been gained and only the association with the killing will be the outcome.
The Lord see all sins as great and only the human race see in their defense a degree between them.
Even if there is no knowledge before the act, all those who take the side of being Anti abortion will bare the guilt. That is not right, but in such a emotion issue sense and right are not a part of the thought process.
Tragic news for the Tiller family and friends. May God comfort them.
I read at Kansas dot com, they are looking for a light blue Taurus, forgot the license plate number…man in his 50-60s, slightly balding with gray hair.
Perhaps we all should be looking at the streets from our houses to assist the police with this murderer’s capture.
Unbelievable.
Whatever your belief it doesn’t give you right to be judge jury and executioner.
By taking Tiller’s life this nitwit has proven himself no better.
To the shooter: You won alot of souls today for the Lord re+ard.
writerdog
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:10 pm | Permalink
It will be one more bullet to be fired against Christians and the pro-life. The anger and hate will associate even those who are a gasp at the violence taken. Those that commit such acts as the bombings and killings do not see that by doing so they are causing the damning of their cause and their faith.
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All Christians and all Pro-Lifers are condemned by this act by one person?
You can’t expect anything logical from Hank. Hank even believes that his being a Navy “liason” (sic) to scientists long ago makes him more knowledgeable today about climate science than the worlds top climate scientists.
Monkeyhawk
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:09 pm | Permalink
“okobserver” tries –
“…this is not the work of dedicated pro-life advocates.”
And you base this on…?
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I know because I am a dedicated pro-lifer and I have never raised a hand against anyone or walked a protest line, and I am part of the majority of pro-lifers who share my stance against violence.
Now what are your basing your accusations against pro-lifers. Maybe he was a father who saw his child being killed. At this point we don’t know do we?
Before making judgements we need to know what we are talking about.
BlueJay
Posted May 31, 2009 at 11:54 am | Permalink
It seems the “culture war” just went hot.
And that is fine with me.
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BlueJay
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:01 pm | Permalink
I’ve been saying it for years.
The fundamentalist Christian community is the enemy of freedom loving Americans. They can’t be treated as fellow Americans with an unusual point of view.
They must be treated as enemies.
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BlueJay
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:16 pm | Permalink
Why? So you can use your gun to kill me?
Writer you need to get a grip. Lately your posts are pretty radical. So if one dem, Phelps, does something outrageous we should condem the entire party.
Way to go, CONs. You’re hate speech finally led to what you wanted, some easily influenced violent-prone induvidual acting on what you were only saying . . .
Tiller is dead. And Hank Price and Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson and all the rest of them pulled the effing trigger.
I’m appaled at Dr. Tiller’s murder. Two observations: most prolifers will also be appalled because they’re not all extremists. And once the killer is apprehended, he will become an Eric Rudolph-style pro-life martyr.
Got the balls to say it to my face, little man? Next time I see you I’ll give you an opportunity to apologize.
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You must have missed what BlueJay wrote,
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BlueJay
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:12 pm | Permalink
“That being said, I don’t condone his murder.”
Of course you do. You’re just too dishonest to say so.
Scum.
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You’ll have to pardon me for taking offense that a small, wormy ward of the state has used the death of an infamous abortionist as an opportunity to personally defame me.
He doesn’t have the balls to talk to me face to face. Neither does Monkeyhawk. Like BlueJay, Monkeyhawk is all talk and no action. He uses Dr. Tiller’s death as an opportunity to spew his hate toward Christians and conservatives in general and my boy and I specifically.
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okobserver
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:20 pm | Permalink
And to my knowledge we don’t know anything about him, his religion, or his party affiliation do we?
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Doesn’t take much of a stretch to guess that this was done by some radical fundamentalist Republican. Hate speech has consequences as we see this morning. There has been a blizzard of hate speech from the right directed at Tiller, including most of the conservative bloggers on these boards.
Excellent example of how the far right settles disagreement. If you can’t win in the courts or in public opinion, just shoot somebody.
The right owns this one. Be prepared for the results.
Blade,
First off, Eric Rudolf got an awful lot of moral and financial support from within the anti-abortion movement.
Secondly, the rabid anti’s have demonized Dr. Tiller for so long and so relentlessly that his murder this morning was inevitable. They found and cultured the crazy they needed to kill him, and sent him off to do their dirty work, all in the name of Jesus. Just like they did with Shannon, like they did with Rudolf, like they did with Hill, they will abandon him publicly while toasting to his honor privately, and use his name to raise more money.
Really that was radical? It was the simplest statement and you know it will happen. This act will be used by those who have blinding hatred on the Pro-choice side and will use it to condemn those who are pro-life.
Since often it is a “Christian” group or so they claim that it is God’s law and their faith that inspires their actions. It is the Christian faith that will be damned not the person who committed the killing.
Neither the Pro-life movement or the Christian faith were the ones that wanted this or agree with it.
This was the act of a lone and mentally ill person not either the faith or the movement that caused this.
He may be acting in what he saw as a duty to either the movement or his faith. But he was not and is excusing his self righteous act in his own mind. If he does claim the act was in the name of his faith or the Pro-life movement he is only tarnishing and belittling both. he has not save one baby’s life and has only made his motivation to be senseless and damnable. Sadly those who also share a faith and movement will be sharing that senselessness and damnable action.
It is not just or right but as I said right in such an emotional issue is not a part of the thought process.
OKO you seem to be having a reading problem, you come here expecting to see comments as being a
either/or. You assume that because in the past I have not shared the same opinion on a issue.
Then forever more all my opinions will be against the CONs side of an issue. Nothing I said was a damnation of Christianity or Pro-life it was a statement that some others will not separate the action.
From the pro-life movement and /or Christianity. If you set your opinion that everyone else is against you then it does not matter what anyone said. It will always be bad and against you even simply saying hello.
From what I understand they’re just looking for the vehicle. That doesn’t mean he’s guilty…fortunately for the person who killed Tiller, I still believe in justice, and that he is presumed innocent.
Political_mama
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:54 pm | Permalink
From what I understand they’re just looking for the vehicle. That doesn’t mean he’s guilty…
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Doesn’t take much of a stretch to guess that this was done by some radical fundamentalist Republican. Hate speech has consequences as we see this morning. There has been a blizzard of hate speech from the right directed at Tiller, including most of the conservative bloggers on these boards. -XXX
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Guess? Guess?!! And what is a radical fundamentalist Republican? Good grief XXX.
The head of our deacon board made the announcement as we were dismissing. It was a sad shock. He then led us in prayer for the Tiller family and for the members of his church, decrying the use of violence. Especially the unconscionable act of performing this heinous act in a church of God.
This is more of the same from the right-wing hate-mongers who spew vitriol at their political enemies (sample, Ann Coulter’s book entitled simply Treason) 24-7 and are then pretend to shocked that their reader-listeners would act upon the enemies list that they have created.
You can’t have an act of terror like this without having plenty of hate speech first.
Obviously, from the facts that we know, this man was a disgruntled alumni of KSU. His car was registered in Merriam, Kansas a hotbed of liberal activism.
A pox on all liberals from Merriam and a special pox on all the graduates of the liberal colleges of Kansas!
Adkisson walked into the church, pulled a sawed-off shotgun from a guitar case and fired into a congregation of about 230 people watching a children’s musical performance.
Adkisson told police during an hour-long interrogation three hours after the July 27 shooting that he was ready to take his anger out on what he called “an ultra-liberal” church that “never met a pervert they just didn’t embrace.”
“They just glory (in) these weirdos and sickos and homos,” he said in an interview recorded by investigators.
Adkisson left a four-page suicide note in his SUV in the church parking lot. In it, he described the attack as “a hate crime,” “a political protest” and “a symbolic killing.”
He railed against extending constitutional rights to terrorists at Guantanamo Bay, about the news media being “the propaganda wing of the Democrat Party,” and how he would like to kill every major Democrat in Congress. But he said they were inaccessible and decided to go after “the foot soldiers, the (expletive) liberals that vote in these traitorous people.”
Adkisson concluded, “I’d like to encourage other like-minded people to do what I’ve done. If life ain’t worth living anymore don’t just kill yourself. Do something for your country before you go. Go kill liberals.”
writerdog
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:10 pm | Permalink
Those that commit such acts as the bombings and killings do not see that by doing so they are causing the damning of their cause and their faith.
Claiming to be doing so in the defense of moral high ground and also taking the name of the Lord thy God in vain so they are doing it in the name of the Lord. There will be shame to be had, for even at the outcry there will be deep inside many who will say he had it coming.
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Writer you might think you are ‘open minded’ in what you wrote but you sat in judgement on the entire pro-life movement with you condemnation of this one person.
We don’t all walk in lockstep. I hate no one. I felt that Tiller was wrong in what he did but knew I wasn’t his judge and he would be judged just as I will be.
Read what you actually wrote not what you wanted your words to say.
If Rush Limbaugh were killed today who would be quilty. The person who killed him or the democrat party who said they wanted him dead?
From one of the anti-abortion sites this morning:
A great day for the unborn children scheduled to be murdered by Babykilling Abortionist George Tiller.
George Tiller reaped what he sowed and now has been cast alive into everlasting torment and fire for the innocent blood he has shed.
Psalm 55:15 Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.
I pray the person who performed this deed is never known or apprehended.
This is more of the same from the right-wing hate-mongers who spew vitriol at their political enemies (sample, Ann Coulter’s book entitled simply Treason) 24-7 and are then pretend to shocked that their reader-listeners would act upon the enemies list that they have created.
You can’t have an act of terror like this without having plenty of hate speech first.”
Maybe you should look behind you
What’s appropriate is outrage.
What’s really “appropriate” would be to open fire on advocates of illegal abortion and some bombings of their homes, offices and churches. But we “libruhls” aren’t always “appropriate.”
Yeah, I really want revenge. I want retribution. I want to respond in kind. ”
“It seems the “culture war” just went hot.
And that is fine with me.”
“The fundamentalist Christian community is the enemy of freedom loving Americans. They can’t be treated as fellow Americans with an unusual point of view.
okobserver
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:15 pm | Permalink
If Rush Limbaugh were killed today who would be quilty. The person who killed him or the democrat party who said they wanted him dead?
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The Democrat Party said that they wanted Rush Limbaugh dead?
You have a link to that?
I’m sure a pronouncement from the Democrat Party expressing such wishes regarding a prominent radio-show host would have been big news.
okobserver
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:15 pm | Permalink
If Rush Limbaugh were killed today who would be quilty. The person who killed him or the democrat party who said they wanted him dead?
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Why all the Liberal Democrats would be guilty of course.
Daniel
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:20 pm | Permalink
okobserver
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:15 pm | Permalink
If Rush Limbaugh were killed today who would be quilty. The person who killed him or the democrat party who said they wanted him dead?
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The Democrat Party said that they wanted Rush Limbaugh dead?
Wednesday, June 13, 2007
Florida Democrats: Kill Rush Limbaugh Fans?
This sounds like a joke, but sadly it’s not much of an exaggeration, if it can be called an exaggeration at all.
Several members of the all-Democrat Broward County Commission are considering no longer airing hurricane warnings on one of the area’s most popular radio stations, because — are you ready? — the station airs Rush Limbaugh’s show.
Now, in a world where common sense prevails, one would think airing emergency warnings on a station with as many listeners as Rush has would be ideal, enabling as many local residents as possible to receive critical information during an emergency.
The Broward County Commissioner said of Rush and other conservative programs, “They have every right to speak, but we don’t have to do business with them.”
Since when is saving your constituents’ lives “business”?
The Phill Kline witch-hunt helped stoke the terrorism too . . .
Hmmm, May 31, anniversary of the arrest of Eric Rudolph, the Olympic Park bomber.
From Wiki: Rudolph declared that his bombings were part of a guerrilla campaign against abortion and “the homosexual agenda.” He spent years on the FBI Ten Most Wanted Fugitives until he was caught in 2003.
Rudolph has called himself a Roman Catholic in “the war to end this holocaust”
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You CONs must be as proud as when Timothy McVey blew up the Federal Building in Ok City.
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The story below is just the product of a liberal moron speaking to another liberal moron, that’s to be expected. However, it does not take away any of the seriousness of what was said.
I find it extremely troubling for two reasons. One, Larry King let this go un-challenged. Two, this may be all that’s needed for some nut-case on the left to think this gives them some sort of moral hunting license to try and kill Rush.
And here I thought liberals had ‘hate’ laws for just this very thing.
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Daniel by laughing and repeating ad nauseum the jokes about his kidneys failing they were certainly advocating his death don’t you think. Well as much so as all conservatives pulled the trigger to kill Tiller.
Writer if I read what you wrote wrong then you have my sincere apologies. It looked like you were climbing on the blame train that is running through here.
Whoever pulled that trigger did so of his own violition. No organization sent him there. No church or faith backed him at least to this point we have no evidence of any of this.
Tragic end and there will still be an ongoing prolife movement I think.
No liberal created that website, I’d not be surprised if it were limbaugh supporters who created that.
The KSN person is an idiot. She wondered why the interview with Mahoney he said he didn’t want overreaction…well yeah he’s afraid the RICO law that protected abortion clinics from protesters was overturned under Bush.
okobserver
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:20 pm | Permalink
And to my knowledge we don’t know anything about him, his religion, or his party affiliation do we?
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I guess Okie has a short memory..
It is the same church where the armed radicals tried to take over the service… And I remember how so many CONS defended those idiots as well…
And today is PENTECOST Sunday as well… Supposed to be a day of profound celebration… the birthday of the Church… And now some GOON turns it into a day of profound mourning… So much for the rule of l, huh?aw
May the peace of God, that passes understanding, keep our hearts and minds (+)
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Daniel I said that intentionally to show the ignorance of any who would believe that the actions of one person condemned the entire conservative party and all people of faith as it has been presented here today.
Sykes said it in front of the prez and he didn’t repudiate it therefore he must agree that Limbaugh should die? Right. And as the head of the democrat party that would make it the goal of the democrat party. Right?
Blaming your average pro-lifer (the vast majority of that 51% of Americans)for this senseless act is like blaming all pro-same sex marriage folks for all the AIDS deaths.
okobserver
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:27 pm | Permalink
Daniel by laughing and repeating ad nauseum the jokes about his kidneys failing they were certainly advocating his death don’t you think. Well as much so as all conservatives pulled the trigger to kill Tiller.
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You posted that the Democrat Party said they wanted Rush Limbaugh dead and can’t offer any proof to back up your lie.
Just admit that your were wrong. It’s not that hard.
Outie,
“While condemning the act, neither conservatives nor anti-abortion groups should accept blame for this act.”
Hey, some of them are already praising the murder of Dr. Tiller and hoping his killer is never caught. They may not want the blame, but some at least sure want the credit.
The man who murdered Tiller is nothing but a coward. If he did it for professed religious reasons, he would have dropped the gun and waited for the police. Instead, he ran, like the coward he is. What he did amounts to first degree murder.
JMWalker
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:36 pm | Permalink
The man who murdered Tiller is nothing but a coward. If he did it for professed religious reasons, he would have dropped the gun and waited for the police. Instead, he ran, like the coward he is. What he did amounts to first degree murder”
Daniel I gave you my rational for why the dems want Limbaugh dead. Guess you didn’t see it. Now just admit you were wrong as well as the other libs who have condemned the entire conservative movement and all people of faith for this killing today.
My logic was much more based on fact than the left has done today.
Just admit you were wrong. It isn’t hard. And could you also help Chas out. He is really confused. He thinks he knows who killed Tiller and where he goes to church.
He surely wouldn’t think anyone that follows the news in Wichita wouldn’t know what church Tiller attended.
Political_mama
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:38 pm | Permalink
Everyone knew where Tiller went to church. That was common knowledge thanks to the predators who wanted to hurt anyone around him too.
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From the coverage I have seen it said the Doctor was ushering today and talking with the shooter in the lobby of the church. I’m guessing the fact that Tiller was serving as an usher today, the murderer knew of an opportunity to catch him alone and also provide less of a chance of his identification. It may indicate he was stalked for quite some time.
Simply sad.
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okobserver
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:32 pm | Permalink
Sykes said it in front of the prez and he didn’t repudiate it therefore he must agree that Limbaugh should die? Right. And as the head of the democrat party that would make it the goal of the democrat party. Right?
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You’re really resorting to some extreme mental gymnastics there to rationalize your lie….
JM I agree with you on this killing and what should happen to the shooter. No man can take justice on himself. We are a nation of laws and have to remain so or we will become a third world country like Mexico where people are afraid to walk in public.
Go ahead, Jimbo, preach the gospel of not painting the political opposition with a broad brush and insults…. No one is better suited to encourage civil debate that you..
Monkeyhawk
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:39 pm | Permalink
Not surprising how WE Blog’s CONs are rushing to defend the assassin of Doctor Tiller.
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Not surprisingly you either can’t read or are spread your own lies, which puts you in the same group as the shooter.
DAMN Okie, you are really, really dense!!! I said it is the same Church where the two armed radicals interrupted and tried to take over their Worship Service earlier….
Now, you want to call me a liar?? Or do you want to post an apology??
I know members of that congregation… I am sure the entire membership is devastated by this act of huge moronic proportions.
Daniel why the personal attacks on me today? You are stretching on several points. Challenge Capn on some of the statements he made. Are you tough enough to do that or do you just challenge conservatives?
Chas
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:31 pm | Permalink
okobserver
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:20 pm | Permalink
And to my knowledge we don’t know anything about him, his religion, or his party affiliation do we?
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I guess Okie has a short memory..
It is the same church where the armed radicals tried to take over the service… And I remember how so many CONS defended those idiots as well…
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Chas my statement was obviously about the shooter. Man you had better calm down. You are reaching stroke range.
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“Now, you want to call me a liar?? Or do you want to post an apology??
I know members of that congregation… I am sure the entire membership is devastated by this act of huge moronic proportions.”
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It doesn’t have to be a long apology. A simple ‘I’m sorry’ will work.
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okobserver
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:47 pm | Permalink
Daniel why the personal attacks on me today? You are stretching on several points. Challenge Capn on some of the statements he made. Are you tough enough to do that or do you just challenge conservatives?
You are getting boring.
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Calling you out on your ridiculous lie constitutes an attack? What points have I been stretching on? Show me just one.
Daniel no answer on challenging Capn? I will dialogue with you on a serious discussions but this track you are one is trolling as Agnatha said yesterday and I chose not to play anymore.
Chas realizing how stupid Daniel sounds I will release you from that need for an apology realizing you posted without reading what had previously been posted.
I share your outrage about the shooting. This is never the solution.
“Those that commit such acts as the bombings and killings do not see that by doing so they are causing the damning of their cause and their faith. “
When someone does something and calls it in the name of a faith or a movement they are not speaking for the entire faith or movement. Are they? But that is not seen by those outside the faith or movement. We see that with Al-Qaeda and the Moslem faith, they acted and said it was in defense of their faith. But the reality is they did not but the level of hatred for anyone that is Moslem grew and soon just their faith was the only reason for hating them. Likewise when associated with right or wrong with a faith or a movement.
The acts become thought of as the whole of the stated reasons.
“Claiming to be doing so in the defense of moral high ground and also taking the name of the Lord thy God in vain so they are doing it in the name of the Lord. There will be shame to be had, for even at the outcry there will be deep inside many who will say he had it coming“.
And are you disagreeing that some not all but some within the more radical elements of the Pro-life movement will not see it that way? I notice that it was brought up if Rush had been killed the accusation is that many on the left will not morn his killing. That too is a true and factual point, such is the way of a blinding hatred. Would the death of Rush Limbaugh or the death of Tiller stop the issues? NO, but there would be some who would see it as a step toward stopping the issues. All the suspect did this morning was take a human life nothing more. He was not defending babies or stopping abortion, he was not acting in the Christian faith or that of being Pro-life. Nothing has changed except for one more person is not alive and now the suspect is a wanted man who has sacrificed his freedom and family for nothing.
okobserver
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:20 pm | Permalink
And to my knowledge we don’t know anything about him, his religion, or his party affiliation do we?
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Why would I apologize?? This post isnt exactly clear as to who you are talking about…
BUT… I guess I should have figured out you really really want this shooter to be a liberal and a democrat…. :-))
Chas I will say you are upset and not rational. Tiller was shot at his church that is all over the news. He was a huge donor to the democrat party. That has been all over the news.
How could any right thinking person make the assumption you did unless you just saw my name and jumped as Daniel is wont to do.
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Writer I agree with what you are saying and just think that people are jumping to lots of conclusions today. We know nothing about this shooter. I am sure we will before the day is out.
I can see this vigil tonight turning into a lib hate fest ala the Paul Wellstone memorial. I’ll bet if you check Tiller’s clinic right now you would see people gathered there praying just like they have for many years. Not prayers of thanks for the death of Tiller, but prayers for mercy and comfort for his family and friends.
Chas
Posted May 31, 2009 at 2:04 pm | Permalink
I do hope that none of the CONS show up at the Vigil later on tonight… and start spewing their typical Pro-life vitriol…
That could get very ugly…
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The FBI and KBI could start making more arrests IMMEDIATELY. C’mon anti Choice people…come out tonight if you dare.
Of course the cowardly pantywaisted anti choice crowd are in their homes skeered.
Chas
Posted May 31, 2009 at 2:04 pm | Permalink
I do hope that none of the CONS show up at the Vigil later on tonight… and start spewing their typical Pro-life vitriol…
That could get very ugly…
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Is this a threat Chas. How is that any different that the other side?
satatom
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:34 pm | Permalink
“The murder of George Tiller only proves the Obama administration right in that the right wing has become a haven for terrorists.
This will provide the perfect cover for investigating right wingnuts including many of the WACK jobs on this blog.
Lefties…report Boxlock, Regular, HLP, Nathaniel, okobserver, et al to the local and national authorities for investigation.
These right wing fruit cakes have provided aid and comfort to these terrorists for far too long.”
What a complete fool and dimwit, ha!
This is a real study in the emotional, mental, and psychological breakdown of a bunch of dimwitted hysterical dimlibs.
This situation proves to me, beyond a doubt, the mental inferiority of at least the dimlibs on this blog.
Lets just sit back and watch them to continue to spew their hate, froth at the mouth and pee all over themselves.
This is a tragic situation, but really quite amusing to watch the dimlibs disintegrate before our very eyes.
No, it’s not a threat, you stupid woman… It is a statement of what can unfortunately happen at a confrontational event… And I hope it doesnt happen… CONS being present wont help the purpose of the Vigil at all…
OKO I except and found you a reasonable and thoughtful person. LOL just caught up at times in the blind partisan hatred as I have those on the other side.
And I do feel as I did the day we were struck by the terrorists in the 911 attacks. It isn’t on the same massive scale, no, but this was a man who represented freedom for American women.
I know cons will attack me for that statement, but just as you all kept saying that the WTC was a target, we also said that Tiller has been a target, and we tried to pass laws to protect him and cons always tried to poo poo the threat off as insignificant.
DavidB… CC liberals would also not be productive to the purpose of the Vigil… Also could turn into a circular firing squad if something unfortunate should happen.. i’m sure the WPD can handle it quite well…
I would highly recommend to Dr. Tiller’s family, that they not publicize the time/place of the Funeral Service, but rather limit it to familyh, close friends, and a short list of specially elected individuals.
There can be a more public memorial event at a later date.
ChrisfromMacTown has obviously never been to a protest at Tiller’s Clinic (as I have).
The hate speech and violence was all on the CON side.
An anti once rammed her child’s stroller (complete with two kids) into my leg while I was standing on the sidewalk. I had to use an aikido move just to avoid injury and afterwards I said, “excuse me” very politely to her.
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Monkeyhawk
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:14 pm | Permalink
Chances are, according to CON-think, this was a random mugging gone bad and if Dr. Tiller had just been carrying a handgun he’d be alive today.
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I just heard poor ol’ Dr Tiller was murdered in the lobby of the Reformation Lutheran Church.
‘Chances are. . .’ according to bed wetting liberal-think,
If they’d only been posted Dr Tiller might be alive still.
I have yet to see anyone defending the killing, rather many are finding themselves defending their faith and movement. I too am defending my faith and I call on other Christians to be mindful and defend the faith as it should be defended. With love and understanding, this act will be seen as associated with the faith.
AS far away as it is from the true Christian faith, there will still be some who are not of the faith that will see it as done in the faith.
So far I see an agreement, this was a terrible act and one that was unwarranted. “Vengeance is mine said it the Lord!”. He will or will not seek any vengeance by himself, God does not need such minor creations to act on his accord. Who was this man that killed today? Was he claimed Christian? Was he claimed Pro-life? That remains to be seen, but he acted not in a Christian manner nor in support of life.
Adkisson, the church shooter, concluded, “I’d like to encourage other like-minded people to do what I’ve done. If life ain’t worth living anymore don’t just kill yourself. Do something for your country before you go. Go kill liberals.”
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okobserver
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:57 pm | Permalink
Daniel no answer on challenging Capn? I will dialogue with you on a serious discussions but this track you are one is trolling as Agnatha said yesterday and I chose not to play anymore.
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Crappy, why would someone so full of hate and sarcasm show up at Tiller’s clinic except to incite conflict with those you disagree with? This is a sad day on many levels. There are a bunch of judges and elected officials who are wondering where their payola money is going to come from now.
Randall Terry:
“George Tiller was a mass-murderer. We grieve for him that he did not have time to properly prepare his soul to face God. I am more concerned that the Obama Administration will use Tiller’s killing to intimidate pro-lifers into surrendering our most effective rhetoric and actions. Abortion is still murder. And we still must call abortion by its proper name; murder.
Those men and women who slaughter the unborn are murderers according to the Law of God. We must continue to expose them in our communities and peacefully protest them at their offices and homes, and yes, even their churches.”
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Political_mama
Posted May 31, 2009 at 2:38 pm | Permalink
Its true. The antis were pushing a woman with a cane off the curb at the protests, i’ve seen so much nasty behavior there its unreal.
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You mean like BlueJay who has threatened several times to kick my cane out from under me?
“Today we mourn the loss of our husband, father and grandfather. Today’s event is an unspeakable tragedy for all of us and for George’s friends and patients. This is particularly heart wrenching because George was shot down in his house of worship, a place of peace.
We would like to express the family’s thanks for the many messages of sympathy from our friends and from all across the nation. We also want to thank the law enforcement officers who are investigating this crime.
Our loss is also a loss for the City of Wichita and women across America. George dedicated his life to providing women with high-quality heath care despite frequent threats and violence. We ask that he be remembered as a good husband, father and grandfather and a dedicated servant on behalf of the rights of women everywhere.”
This is a sad day in many regards. A man performing legal medical procedures is gunned down at church. Another man is going to lose his freedom. A wife has lost her husband, children have lost their father and grandchildren have lost their grandpa. Hundreds of church-goers were senselessly terrorized.
All of this because we cannot have a civil debate on the issue of abortion.
The divisiveness that marks what passes for debate in this country has to stop. The demonizing of those that disagree with you serves no purpose.
Perhaps all should take a moment and step back and examine their own heart and decide – “am I going to be part of the problem or part of the solution?”
Enough is enough – it is time we begin acting as Americans, united.
Seriously. From this day forward I will respond to you with no personal insults, vulgarity, or other random attacking comment other than disagreement on the issues.
Go ahead everyone. Let’s all remember this conversation and see just how long it takes WS Clark to go back to his old ways.
As much as I mourn the loss of Dr. Tiller, I can’t help but think of the last words of the union man Joe Hill; “Don’t mourn for me; organize!”
We need to gather our strength for the battles ahead, and so honor our memory of Dr. Tiller in the only truly meaningful way possible.
I just got back from the shop and heard someone dusted Tiller.
Who the fuq kills someone on their way to Church?
I didn’t care for what Tiller did, but if someone thinks that Tiller deserves to go to hell and decides to kill him, well they are going to find themselves in the same place.
StevenEDavis
Posted May 31, 2009 at 3:31 pm | Permalink
Nothing like killing somebody to express your pro-life convictions. Killing someone in a church no less. Amazing
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Oh? You heard some news?
Didn’t think the police had released any information on the Kansas City area suspect.
Here was a man who helped untold numbers of women.
I know of two personally. One was a friend of mine involved in an abusive relationship. Had she been forced to carry the pregnancy to term, her abuser would have had his hooks in her for the rest of her life. Another was a lady friend of mine who was a victim of a Down syndrome pregnancy.
Is anyone truly surprised by Tiller’s death?
Saddened…yes, frightened…yes, confused…yes, mad…yes. I’m a little sick to my stomach about it though strongly pro-life, in fact sick because I am pro-life.
But surprised….no.
I am not blaming Tiller, I presume he was gunned down illegally for his preforming legal procedures, at least from the information now available, but when people choose to do things that arouse such strong emotional feelings then strong emotional action can and do take result.
Like I was once told as a youth, “kid if you elect to play on the railroad bridge don’t blame the train for knocking you off.” This is not the same, but the point is….’is anyone really surprised’?
No, Capn. what I wrote was ‘aikidoka’. The suffix ‘ka’ in the Japanese language indicates an expert practitioner of a particular art. In this case I was satirically referring to you as an expert in aikido.
I’m sure that in only the advanced aikido classes do they teach the student how to avoid a mother with a baby buggy. I’m glad you had the advanced trining to avoid serious injury. (satire again for you satirically challenged)
If a group spends a decade dehumanizing someone, it is not a surprise that some fellow-traveler zealot decides to act to accomplish the group’s goal. That goal, of course, was to put Dr. Tiller out of business.
Mission Accomplished.
Now they all step away… “He’s not one of ours.” We shall see…
Look at Parkay’s daily ranting cut and pastes… Mr Obama is “Obamanation” and a baby-hater liberal (tell that to his little girls).
Irresponsible rhetoric has effects. The postings of many on this blog often turn my stomach. The personal insults, not so much… I take them as high praise, considering the sources….
BlueJay
Posted May 31, 2009 at 3:56 pm | Permalink
“innocent and defenseless”
Interesting choice of words.
Dr Tiller was innocent and defenseless this morning.
He was guilty of no crime under the law and all he was doing was going to church.
BlueJay
Posted May 31, 2009 at 3:59 pm | Permalink
“So she killed an innocent and defenseless third person?”
She terminated a pregnancy at about 3 months. I paid for it.
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Good posts Jr. You very accurately showed that both Dr Tiller and this innocent child did not deserve to die.
When someone kindly makes it possible for you to apologize to someone, one regards it rather powerfully. “If I never do anything else in my life….” I remember saying to this gentleman.
I meant it then – and I mean it now.
Oh, my God. My heart is also full for Dr. Tiller’s loved ones and employees – one of whom who has had more sorrow and suffering in her own life than most of us can comprehend.
There will be a candlelight vigil for Dr. Tiller this evening, details are below. As information regarding the service for Dr. Tiller becomes available, we be sure to let you know.
Date:
Sunday, May 31, 2009
Time:
8:00pm – 11:00pm
Location:
Old Town Plaza, in front of the Old Town Warren
City/Town:
Wichita, KS
Please gather at Old Town Square at 8pm to remember Dr. George Tiller and show support to his friends and family. Although it may not yet be completely dark at 8pm, please bring a candle.
Signs are optional – if you want to bring one, then go for it. But we will not be shouting or chanting or marching tonight. We’ll be respectfully gathering in Dr. Tiller’s memory.
ALSO: If you do bring a sign, be sure to steer clear of ANYTHING that has to do with pro life/choice. This event has no political agenda. Please keep your opinions on abortion at bay for the night.
The event details list this event as lasting until 11pm, but it most likely will not. Please show up as closely to 8pm as you can, and we’ll see what happens from there.
The Wichita Police Department have been notified of our gathering, so they’ll have an eye on us (to keep us safe), just in case there are any crazies out there who don’t approve of our event. Please, please feel free to bring family, children, friends… anyone, really.
It has also just been brought to my attention that the parking garage next to the Warren may be closed tonight due to construction. Please keep this in mind when you are parking!!! Try to carpool as much as possible.
What in the hell is a victim of a Down Syndrome pregnancy?
I can only hope this means the woman was raped and impregnated by an individual with down syndrome.
There’s blood on more hands than the shooters on this one. And, I’m not talking about Tiller’s. Bet Kasserbaum is glad she’s in Washington and not Ks.
Ks. sure doesn’t get much good natl. attention.
In the U.S., violence directed toward abortion providers has killed at least 7 people, including 3 doctors, 2 clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort.[4]
March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of the year before. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Dr. Gunn’s murder and was sentenced to life in prison.
June 29, 1994: Dr. John Britton and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot to death outside of another facility in Pensacola. Rev. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings, received a death sentence, and was executed September 3, 2003.
December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in two clinic attacks in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi, who prior to his arrest was distributing pamphlets from Human Life International,[5] was arrested and confessed to the killings. He committed suicide in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings.
January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph, who was also responsible for the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, was charged with the crime and received two life sentences as a result.
October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot to death at his home in Amherst, New York. His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Dr. Slepian’s murder after finally being apprehended in France in 2001.
May 31, 2009: Dr. George Tiller was shot and killed as he was entering his church in Wichita, KS. [6]
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Boxlock20
Posted May 31, 2009 at 4:43 pm | Permalink
Regular,
’satatom’ is a total idiot, and he lies, “web connections in the Tiller murder” my butt.
Pay no attention to him any more than as if he is a piece of dog sh*t you step in and wipe off in the grass.
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I think I should call the Wichita Police Department and state that some bloggers are making threats to people who blog here.
I think they should send out patrols to their houses before it gets out of hand.
According to the National Abortion Federation, Tiller was the eighth U.S. abortion provider murdered since 1977, and 17 others had been targeted with attempted murder.
Predestined,
Thank you for the information, I will try and check it out, I believe there is a new conference on KSN at 5:00pm.
The only thing anyone would find on this blog remotely resembling threats is from the pro-abortion, pro-death crowd though. Just look at the posts and that is simply because they are frustrated and impotent to do anything.
I’ve seen absolutely none from any so called pro-life folks, that’s contradictory in itself.
The Eagle won’t allow comments on the Tiller stuff. I am too classy to put my thoughts on his memory page. However, George, see ya wouldn’t want to be ya.
Hell just got a new member.
Predestined,
If actual, law enforcement folks are forced to monitor this blog those poor souls will think they have somehow fallen into Alice in Wonderlands hole and are caught in a distorted world of mentally ill crack pots.
I think being made to do so for very long would entitle them to workman’s comp.
What’s funny Box, is that only ones here involved with the abortion clinic as first hand supporters are all on the left and active participants. They are known trouble makers – law enforcement knows them.
I don’t know parkay and I imagine he is not much liked by the left, but he’s the only one this blog that could be considered that has had anything to do with abortion clinic protests and etc.
The rest of us are just recipients of the hate speech from the leftists who actively participant in abortion clinic drama.
Freedom of speech until a leftist says otherwise – yeah…
“She terminated a pregnancy at about 3 months. I paid for it.”
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You’re safe, Capn. Let the record show that BlueJay has desperately grabbed the ‘Walter Mitty’ trophy away from your aikido trained fingers with that whopper!
By the way, in the word aikidoka, ‘ka’ is a suffix, not a particle.
jjj
Posted May 31, 2009 at 4:57 pm | Permalink
The Eagle won’t allow comments on the Tiller stuff. I am too classy to put my thoughts on his memory page. However, George, see ya wouldn’t want to be ya.
Hell just got a new member.
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There’s your hate speech, Regular. It didn’t come from the Left.
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Predestined
Posted May 31, 2009 at 5:17 pm | Permalink
jjj
Posted May 31, 2009 at 4:57 pm | Permalink
The Eagle won’t allow comments on the Tiller stuff. I am too classy to put my thoughts on his memory page. However, George, see ya wouldn’t want to be ya.
Hell just got a new member.
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There’s your hate speech, Regular. It didn’t come from the Left.
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Don’t know him, sorry.
But a nice try at an attempt to try and deny the hate filled leftists on this blog. You buddies are certified kooks.
C’mon it took 7 hours for a troll (may very well be a left plant) for anything remotely supporting the death of Dr. Tiller.
I don’t think I can count the insults and vailed threats to the pro-life group.
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Predestined
Posted May 31, 2009 at 5:22 pm | Permalink
Nice try at deflection, Reg.
Seems some of your buddies are certified kooks, too.
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As a writer you should recognize the trouble today was all started by those on the left. They started attacking anyone on the right.
You can’t deny it – it’s there in black and white.
Sickening…not just the murder, but the way some people here..like mh and capn, are dancing with glee, jumping all over themselves as they use this as “proof” that a political party is responsible for a senseless death.
After the 9-11 attacks, a lot of folks were calling on American Muslims and moderate Muslims to condemn the attacks.
Their line was essentially “control your own.”
Now in the wake of the 8th abortion doctor to have been killed, we find the right-wing CONs taking absolutely no responsibility for the Tiller’s killer.
The CONs continue to support the killer’s ends, while paying lip service against the means.
You hypocritical pit of vipers!
When has someone on the left ever killed someone on the right for their political beliefs? When has a Terry Fox or Jerry Falwell ever get gunned down with malice aforethought?
Yet the Right wing continues to claim, bizarrely, that the “left is the real attackers.”
Reg….it is obvious that capn is delusional. In his twisted mental state, all libs are perfect, and everyone else in the world is an evil criminal.
Sad..there have been times when capn has shown a modicum of intelligence. It is a shame that it is so overwhelmed by his universal hatred, narrow mindedness and prejudices.
Obama’s grandfather was a goatherd! An honorable profession! Goats are hard to herd. It’s not easy to train a dog to herd goats. I take it as a compliment, I’m a nationally recognized goat herder!
“. . .arbiter of the truth? . . .” No, merely an observer of people. You sir are a proven liar. I’ve proved it many times here on the BLOG.
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Nathaniel
Posted May 31, 2009 at 5:41 pm | Permalink
How about a rifle or pistol match too?
I bet can beat any liberal here.
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heh heh,
Speaking of running, back when I was your age, i could run my two mile in combat boots (we didn’t wear sports shoes back then) in less than 12 minutes. Not a great time, but not bad for someone in the 1/8th ton category. :)
I dont see how a man gets shot in church and it turns into a political fight in here. A couple of guys want to meet and punch each other in the face. Oh and to wonder if the killer is a Rep. or Dem… That is nuts. We live in a state that feeds people like BTK and the Carr brothers. I hope everyone has their souls in order! The killing today was as shocking and horrible as it would be for it to happen to any human being.
See what I mean . . . not a single religious CON can bear to judge themselves with the same standard with which they judge the Islamic community after 9-11.
Tiller’s Clinic has been bombed, he was shot in both arms, and now shot dead and Nathan claims that driving to work is the real danger for abortion providers.
I’m the GOOD dad who raises his kid. I got the back story on you. It explains a lot.
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Every thing you’ve posted about my ‘back story’ is a fabricated lie.
It’s interesting that your position on abortion changed about the same time that a woman that was too smart to marry you but stupid enough to have unprotected sex with you decided not to abort and saddle your mother with another child to raise.
My boy has no complaints about the way I’ve raised him, are you jealous or just nuts? Only in a sick disturbed liberal mind would serving in the Navy be considered ‘abandoning’ a child.
KAKE – 10 is reporting that the suspect is known as anti-choice, anti-tax, anti-social security and a convicted felon as a domestic terrorist (caught with a bomb in Silver Lake).
CapnAmerica
Posted May 31, 2009 at 5:49 pm | Permalink
See what I mean . . . not a single religious CON can bear to judge themselves with the same standard with which they judge the Islamic community after 9-11.
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8 wack-jobs over 30+ years vs. how many “suicide” bombers over the same period?
Everything I’ve seen on the news has pro-life organizations condemning this senseless act.
I was at an early service today, but I understand at the later of my church (1045) our Pastor announced the news to the congregation and led it in prayer for the Doctor, his family, his congregation as well as the shooter.
Prayer speaks alot louder than a blanket condemnation. At least to people of faith.
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Blaidd_Drwg69
Posted May 31, 2009 at 5:55 pm | Permalink
KAKE – 10 is reporting that the suspect is known as anti-choice, anti-tax, anti-social security and a convicted felon as a domestic terrorist (caught with a bomb in Silver Lake).
It’s pretty clear where this is going.
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Yeah, it will be going to court right here in Sedgwick County. Looks like a no brainer case for DA Foulston.
Don’t know the law, but I’m guessing he’ll the death penalty.
It may be the first time in recent times that Libs support the death penalty. :)
CapnAmerica
Posted May 31, 2009 at 5:49 pm | Permalink
See what I mean . . . not a single religious CON can bear to judge themselves with the same standard with which they judge the Islamic community after 9-11
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Not even a good apples and oranges comparison.
I repeat, those who would attempt (and a sorry attempt it is) to use a lawless act by an individual to blame a group for political advantage are despicable.
Susan Peters said on KAKE’s coverage that she had spoken with the (alleged) killer’s ex-wife. The man was involved with anti-abortion groups, anti-tax groups, anti-social security groups, and had been arrested and jailed in the past for carrying a bomb in his car. (That does go beyond the concealed carry law, right?)
Does that sound like a liberal to you? Sounds like a Libertarian to me. ;) (It’s a JOKE.)
People are upset. People are angry. Strong words, some hate-filled, are going to fly. It’s not like those on the Right haven’t done the same.
All it will take for federal charges is to prove the gun passed into Kansas from another state or country. How many guns are manufactured in Kansas? Exactly none that are legal.
If convicted, I hope he rots in jail until they bury him in a potter’s field.
Someone must have forgotten the anti-death penalty advocate’s pleas to Jeb Bush to commute the death sentence of the Florida “pro-life” murderer…
Everybody who knows you and know Hank knows who the better man is . . . and it ain’t Hank.
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I’m a better goatherd!
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lindainks55
Posted May 31, 2009 at 6:04 pm | Permalink
All it will take for federal charges is to prove the gun passed into Kansas from another state or country. How many guns are manufactured in Kansas? Exactly none that are legal.
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ummm…I’m pretty sure that gun crimes don’t work that way.
If the murder suspect of George Tiller ordered the gun through mail order or purchased it in another state, then yeah.
If what you say is true, then every crime with a gun would have a federal attachment to it, it doesn’t.
“It’s interesting that your position on abortion changed about the same time that a woman that was too smart to marry you but stupid enough to have unprotected sex with you decided not to abort and saddle your mother with another child to raise.”
THAT fantasy rant doesn’t even make any sense.
Your argument is that the birth of our son changed our opinion on abortion?
No, we just found out that the “pro life” movement was populated largely by people like you. I don’t share much with my son’s mother. But we do share a distaste for dishonesty and hypocrisy.
Mr_Kia
Posted May 31, 2009 at 6:07 pm | Permalink
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
CapnAmerica
Posted May 31, 2009 at 6:01 pm | Permalink
Kfrmgrl–
Eggzaktly.
“The preacher lead a prayer for the shooter.”
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That’s not the quote. But thanks for putting your usual hateful spin as truth on it.
And FG I notice it didn’t take long for you to put Gays back on the cross as well.
You are the one’s who should be ashamed of yourselves but you’re too sick to realize it.
The libertards are the ones using a tragedy to further their own political agendas.
“It may be the first time in recent times that Libs support the death penalty.”
Not this Liberal – with over 130 people released from Death Row after having their convictions overturned, there is no way that I can support the Death Penalty.
ANTI
Posted May 31, 2009 at 6:15 pm | Permalink
Still laughin’ at ya, KFG….and I ain’t the only one…
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Count me in…as well as pointing.
“I, for one, am not surprised that this man of sanitized violence met a violent end.”—outlander
An almost poetic statement.
I grieve for the Tiller family, I sincerely do, and am sick that this kind of thing can happen in our so called civilized society.
But I too am not surprised. It reminds me of the age old statement that “those that live by the sword die by the sword”. And maybe this is exactly what has happened.
Legal or not many consider abortion the violent taking of innocent life. Even though legal, Tiller lived by ending life, and even though legally innocent….he died by violence.
Sad all around, for all involved.
Right wing hate radio is the madrassa for the American Taliban.
Then when their terrorists act out the implication of the hate speech–”liberals want American soldiers to die in Iraq,” “liberals are traitors to America and everything it stands for,” “Obama is a socialist,” “Abortion is murder and Abortionists are murderers,” they are shocked! to find out that their terrorist strorm troopers would follow up on the logical conclusion of that hate speech.
And what of us who do see the clear cause and effect and who bear the brunt of the terrorism?
Why, we’re using a horrible murder for our own ends, don’t you see.
It’s like the Jews who said, “this Hitler guy is a vicious racist” and were told by the good Nazis that the Jews were the real racists by claiming victim status for their own gain.
No, just two guys trying to make sport of a tragic event. Ms. Farm Grrl has many friends and supporters here, and I count myself among those, and I consider myself to be one of her most active supporters.
As I stated earlier, is this the level of discourse that we have sunk to?
As usual, kfg is totally psycho, selfishly focused on homosexuality, and spewing hate for everyone who disagrees.
Worthless posts….please go away again.
Think back, Capn. Think about all of those times that you blamed George Bush for thousands of casualties in Iraq. Let’s say that he had been assassinated. Are you saying that you would have just stepped up accepted blame? Ridiculous right?
That is exactly what you are expecting anti-abortion folks to do here.
Bottom line is that emotions are high and you need to think and quit inflaming passions with your deceptive and defective rhetoric.
Like many in this community, my heart is heavy today. There have been many great diaries that talk about Dr. Tiller’s years of service to women, and the threats he has endured throughout the last years of his life. My story is a bit more personal and I want to share it with all of you to give you more insight into the man.
In 1975 my Mom noticed an indention in her left breast. She called and made an appointment with her OB/GYN, Dr. George Tiller. After his initial examination, he ordered a biopsy. While performing the biopsy he immediately knew that the lump was cancerous. Instead of just closing and scheduling surgery, he “grabbed a handful”, his words not mine. Her cancer Dr. credited this quick thinking by Dr. Tiller with saving her life, and due to this she didn’t even have to undergo chemotherapy.
Several years later my Mother and I were driving by his clinic in Wichita. Mom started complaining of chest pains, so I drove into his parking lot and ran in to get help. Dr. Tiller was by Mom’s side immediately, and stabilized her, before the heart attack could cause severe damage.
In 1980 I was pregnant with my first child. I had no insurance and couldn’t afford a doctors appointment until I was approved for a medical card.. Mom told Dr. Tiller and he brought me into his office where he examined me, free of charge. I can credit him with the very first picture taken of my son.
The last story I have to share is about my friends who could not have children. Dr. Tiller’s office worked with several attorneys in the Wichita area to provide adoption services for his patients who wanted this option. My friends have a 10 yr. old boy now, who is loved and adored.
I’m not a great writer, so I apologize that this isn’t nearly as eloquent as some of the diaries on Daily Kos. I just wanted to get this story out to you, so you could hear how this man wasn’t just a tremendous fighter for women’s rights. he was a brilliant physician, and a kind and compassionate human being. RIP Dr. Tiller and thank you for all you did for my friends and my family.
“Bigotbawks thinks that a Doctor who performs LEGAL medical proceedures is getting some kind of cosmic justice “–kfg
I never said that, I simply said that it is interesting that those that live by violence….die by the same, and that many folks consider the act of abortion to be an act of violence against the most innocent and deserving of protection, legal or not.
Bigotbawks posted: “But I too am not surprised. It reminds me of the age old statement that “those that live by the sword die by the sword”. And maybe this is exactly what has happened.”
Then I said: “Bigotbawks thinks that a Doctor who performs LEGAL medical proceedures is getting some kind of cosmic justice”.
And then bigotbawks said “I never said that, I simply said that it is interesting…”
I rest my case.
Denial. It’s not just a river in Egypt anymore.
Come on cons, keep posting your denials, deflections, and defenses.
The folks who were NOT turned away from religion today by murder might indeed turn away from christ if they read your posts.
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:03 pm | Permalink
Just makes ya wanna run right out and win one for Jesus, doesnt it?
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Tiller was trying to win one from Jesus. He was performing usher duty in a Christian Church.
“There are some passages about the “advancement” of human kind as you put it to be found in the book of Revelation, specifically after “religion dies.”
That would be the same books that holds as truth talking snakes, virgin birth and a dead man rising after three days?
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:13 pm | Permalink
When the guilty party admits his motivations were religious, will you be apologizing to me?
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So you are saying this was a Christian on Christian hate crime?
Is DA Foulston gonna include that in her prosecution speech?
“When the guilty party admits his motivations were religious, will you be apologizing to me?”
Since you didnt answer my question except to post another question, I’ll take that as a no. You wont be apologizing when this guy admits he murdered because of his christian beliefs.
I never really expected you’d apologize when the truth is confirmed. It was a nice thought, but I knew it wouldnt happen.
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:20 pm | Permalink
I never really expected you’d apologize when the truth is confirmed. It was a nice thought, but I knew it wouldnt happen.
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Why should I apologize for a nut case?
I dislike those nut jobs in Topeka at Westboro who protest at funerals with some screwed up agenda.
I don’t apologize for them either, they are just screw ball idiots imo.
I asked you to apologize for your comment to me when this guy makes his grand statements about why he committed murdered for jesus.
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The purpose of this act was two fold. First to kill Tiller, but secondly to scare others in hopes they will stop providing abortions. This is the definition of terrorism and I hope the AG has the guts to try this person as a domestic terrorist. Hide behind the bible to justify this terrible act if you wish but when individuals take the law into their own hands and we start to kill those whose opinions/lifestyles offend us then civilization will break down and anarchy will reign. That will be the down fall of the United States not abortion or gay marriage or any of the countless other causes taken up in the name of God.
I wonder, will WS Clarks new found objecting of being divisive bring him to condemn a fellow liberal poster or simply continue to unabashedly voice his support of those who continue to be divisive?
I’ll wait for your apology behalf of the gay community for Jeffrey Daumer despicable deeds.
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Dahmer was born into a family of devout members of the Stone-Campbell denomination known as the “church of Christ” or “Churches of Christ.” He was an active churchgoer until the age of 5. After that, Dahmer was never again actively religious or a regular churchgoer
He weren’t no christian either.
Jeffrey Dahmer was a registered Democrat.
I think we should be seeing a whole lotta apologies from libs.
Hmmmm. I see the truth is only beginning to come out.
This guy sure sounds like Pleefer. Where is he?
“Suspect in Dr. Tiller’s Assassination Appears to Have Operation Rescue Ties.
Category: Medicine • Misc
Posted on: May 31, 2009 8:06 PM, by Mike Dunford
Wichita NBC affiliate KSHB-TV is reporting that the suspect being held in the assassination of Dr. George Tiller is a man named Scott Roeder. Posters in the forums at the DemocraticUnderground have identified at least one posting at Operation Rescue’s website (currently down, link to Google cache here) that’s written by a Scott Roeder and refers to Dr. Tiller.
There is also information that indicates that a suspected Freeman named Scott Roeder was arrested in Topeka in 1996 for parole violations related to his having bomb making materials in his car trunk. At that time, he was identified as being 38, which would make him 51 today. Another recent news report gives the current age of the suspect in Tiller’s assassination as 51.
The information currently available strongly suspects that this Scott Roeder is exactly the kind of radical right-wing extremist that was discussed in a recent Homeland Security report – you remember that report, right? It’s the one that various semi-mainstream conservatives got all self-righteously irate over a couple of months ago. “
farmgrrl, come home. this isn’t the place, these aren’t the people. hate isn’t the way and there are too many haters here. it drags you down and no one should be drug down to this level.
There are some experts who think Jeffry Dahmer was so frustrated and ashamed of his deviant homosexual behavior (self hate) that his guilt drove him to destroy his sexual partners. He didn’t just have to kill them – he had to destroy their bodies to erase his shame.
“Then I said: “Bigotbawks thinks that a Doctor who performs LEGAL medical proceedures is getting some kind of cosmic justice”.” the resident obnoxious queer
Again, I never said it was “justice”, never used the term.
I said it was interesting, thought provoking, in light of that age old statement of “those that live by the sword…die by the sword.
Think about that kfg.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:56 pm | Permalink
Hmmmm. I see the truth is only beginning to come out.
This guy sure sounds like Pleefer. Where is he?
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Beats me. I didn’t care for Pfeefer, he was a tad cwazy with his conspiracy theories.
Kind of like some on here, who think there is a conspiracy to everything instead of someone being just an evil bastage.
Sheep
An October 2003 study by Dr. Charles E. Roselli et al. (Oregon Health and Science University) states that homosexuality in male sheep (found in 8% of rams) is associated with a region in the rams’ brains which the authors call the “ovine Sexually Dimorphic Nucleus” (oSDN) which is half the size of the corresponding region in heterosexual male sheep.
How many gay people are there in America?
Amongst the women he found:
13% reported some homosexual contact;
4% reported more homosexual than heterosexual contact;
1% reported exclusively homosexual contact.
Bleass everyone for attending and praying in May to bring justice to Tiller and the closing of his death camp.
Sometime soon, would it be feasible to organize as many people as possible to attend Tillers church (inside, not just outside) to have much more of a presence and possibly ask questions of the Pastor, Deacons, Elders and members while there? Doesn’t seem like it would hurt anything but bring more attention to Tiller.”
Isn’t Roeder a German name KFG? Don’t you have a German name?
Those German’s, like Hitler are just so nasty and blame others for their problems. With Hitler, it was the Jews, for KFG, it’s the Christians and for Roeder? – who knows – he seemed to hate every one, especially with his bomb making escapade that was thankfully caught before strategy struck.
Sorry, KFG is rubbing off on me, just using her logic in explaining things – you know – belong to some group or connected by some remote trait – then if one is guilty – so are the rest type of mentality.
This guy Scott Roeder is a white, christian, male, straight, soverign anti government, gun totin’, bomb building conservative. Probably a republican too.
Is anyone really surprised?
Yeah. That DHS description of domestic terrorism was so wrong.
Attack those you disagree with and make demands for civility. Then when those you attack point out this glaring contradiction, attack them for whining.
“Why do you not simply post something in reflection about Dr Tiller on this tragic day instead of being so divisive?”
Well, first of all, anyone who has read more than one of nathan’s posts would know that it’s very likely he does NOT regard this day as tragic. It’s nice for effect, but it just doesnt square up with his previous posts.
And as for posting something reflective?
No, I think I’ll just stick with the truth as it is revealed. That seems to grate on cons more than anything else.
The blogs are saying Roeder had a tie to Operation Rescue. Funny, I thougth sure he went in and shot Tiller in the head was because of something offensive in the church bulletin Tiller was handing out. Hmmm….
kfg has nothing more than a tired, very tired, old, very old, tactic of trying to tar a group with the actions of a wacked out individual. An action that has been condemned by everyone.
She used to be fairly effective at it. But her hatred overpowers everything. Now she just screeches.
1. Your question assumes the premise that cons hate the truth.
a. I don’t hate the truth. I can’t speak for all conservatives anymore than you can, but what evidence do you bring to the table to make such an assertion that cons hate the truth?
2. You use a term “cons” in a demeaning way. When asking a question using a term to demean the target audience, why would you sit around wondering why that audience wouldn’t treat your question with any quickness in response?
3. To answer your question based on a false premise, written as a logical fallacy of the loaded question, using an insult to decribe your intended audience:
I don’t hate the truth, thus I can’t respond to a question asking me if I hate the truth.
Farmgrrl is absolutely correct on this. She is also a victim of hate because of who she is and knows well what she is talking about.
I want her to come home and blog with people who love and respect her. Because she doesn’t deserve more of this.
But she is telling the truth. The haters have brought our country to a new low. It’s encouraged by right-wing media, by the past VP, by an administration who condones torture, by the current Republican Senators and spokespersons who call a SCOTUS nominee malicious names, by people who are easily whipped into a frenzy of hate in the name of God. This isn’t any longer America. It’s what a theology is — intolerant and full of hate.
You might look at your own post which is full of… guess what?
Intolerance and hate towards religion.
You are looking at the actions of one person who represents a very small minority and then blaming an entire group of people who had nothing to do with it, don’t condone it, and would never support it.
So, yes, go back to your “home” where once again you can pretend like you are a wonderful person.
It would appear that the people at Operation Rescue had foreknowledge that Scott Roeder wanted to enter the sanctuary at Tiller’s church and cause trouble.
I wonder if they alerted the proper authorities to this potentially dangerous situation?
If I said we needed to change the way we deal with mental illnesses like paranoia and delusions of being god, would you accuse me of hating the mentally ill?
I feel sorry for people with mental illnesses. Including religious beliefs.
Talking snakes? Virgin births? People living inside of whales? Three day corpses rising from the dead?
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 8:41 pm | Permalink
Really nathan? Hate and intolerance?
If I said we needed to change the way we deal with mental illnesses like paranoia and delusions of being god, would you accuse me of hating the mentally ill?
I feel sorry for people with mental illnesses. Including religious beliefs.
Talking snakes? Virgin births? People living inside of whales? Three day corpses rising from the dead?
Let’s talk mental illness….
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So you are saying that Gay ministers are mentally ill?
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 8:46 pm | Permalink
“So you are saying that Gay ministers are mentally ill?”
Did I say that? But thanks for playing anyway.
And now that you mention it, I believe it is called the Stockholm Syndrome, when folks who have been abused identify with their abusers.
If the shoe fits….
I’d say the same about any black person who joined the Klan.
Or the republican party.
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So, by your logic or lack thereof, General Colin Powell is responsible for George Tiller’s murder, because he’s a Republican?
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 8:46 pm | Permalink
“So you are saying that Gay ministers are mentally ill?”
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You really are mentally ill.
You have suggested at least a half a dozen times that religion is mental illness, fundamentals of the Christian faith in particular (Vigin Birth, the Resurrection).
Yet somehow that does not apply to homosexuals of the Christian faith?
You’re a parody of yourself. It’s comical.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 8:51 pm | Permalink
“So, by your logic or lack thereof, General Colin Powell is responsible for George Tiller’s murder, because he’s a Republican?”
Twwweeeeeet!
That’s a fifteen yard penalty for reaching.
If that’s what you got from my posts, then you really are comprehension challenged.
I think hooked on phonics can fix that.
You too kia. You could use a few more literacy brain cells as well.
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Sounds like someone wants to have their cake and eat it too.
And then must in turn take blame for the Dahmer murders.
Does Tiller’s killer have a defense fund website yet? Someone should start a defense fund for him/her. Everyone should get a fair trial? Maybe Paul Morrison could be his attorney, he is pretty neat.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 8:55 pm | Permalink
Deflect, deny, defend.
You cant change what happened today. The chickens have come home to roost.
And all your spinning and laughing and trying to shift attention away from you and yours isnt going to work.
The truth can only be denied for a while.
Sooner or later, the truth comes out.
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I’m pretty sure I’m safe on this one.
Along with the vast majority of the 51% of Americans that are pro-life.
ksfrmgrl is a total idiot .. tell that to the thousands upon thousands of babies murdered by the left and George Tiller . . . . what goes around comes around ?? .. no .. I don’t justify what happened .. but I find it a little hard to squeeze a tear .. I’m sure his death was quicker and easies than his myriads of innocent helpless victims over that past 30 years .. May God grant them peace
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 8:57 pm | Permalink
“And then must in turn take blame for the Dahmer murders.”
For those of you scoring at home, that is a poorly executed deflection move on kia’s part.
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It’s the exact same falicy “you and yours” have been using throughout the day.
ALL pro-life Christians are responsible for today’s events correct?
Yeah Phantom. Because ya know there’s a ticking clock a la Jack Bauer and I bet this guy has knowledge of innocent lives that are about to be taken. Just like today.
And since waterboarding isnt torture, I think the protection of the innocents DEMANDS he be waterboarded to get information on other jihadist activities.
The original assassination attempt on Dr. Tiller came eight months into the Clinton presidency. The parallel with today’s offense ought to be obvious: a pro-choice president takes office and the violent extremists go all crazy, whipped up by some of the same right wing radio talkers today as sixteen years ago.
The predictable knee-jerk response from some in the pro-choice majority will be to attempt to demonize and link all Americans that define themselves as “pro life” as aiding and abetting this act of terrorism by having a mere opinion, just as George W. Bush and others attempted to link all oppositional dissent to the attacks of September 11, 2001. And while it is an absolute certainty that the Obama Justice Department will investigate and prosecute this latest crime – and criminal – to the maximum extent of the law, those that want to, like Bush, demonize dissent itself are not going to get much rhetorical backing from the President. His May 17 remarks at Notre Dame are now prescient:
A few days after I won the Democratic nomination, I received an email from a doctor who told me that while he voted for me in the primary, he had a serious concern that might prevent him from voting for me in the general election. He described himself as a Christian who was strongly pro-life, but that’s not what was preventing him from voting for me.
What bothered the doctor was an entry that my campaign staff had posted on my website – an entry that said I would fight “right-wing ideologues who want to take away a woman’s right to choose.” The doctor said that he had assumed I was a reasonable person, but that if I truly believed that every pro-life individual was simply an ideologue who wanted to inflict suffering on women, then I was not very reasonable. He wrote, “I do not ask at this point that you oppose abortion, only that you speak about this issue in fair-minded words.”
Fair-minded words.
After I read the doctor’s letter, I wrote back to him and thanked him. I didn’t change my position, but I did tell my staff to change the words on my website. And I said a prayer that night that I might extend the same presumption of good faith to others that the doctor had extended to me. Because when we do that – when we open our hearts and our minds to those who may not think like we do or believe what we do – that’s when we discover at least the possibility of common ground.
That’s when we begin to say, “Maybe we won’t agree on abortion, but we can still agree that this is a heart-wrenching decision for any woman to make, with both moral and spiritual dimensions.
So let’s work together to reduce the number of women seeking abortions by reducing unintended pregnancies, and making adoption more available, and providing care and support for women who do carry their child to term. Let’s honor the conscience of those who disagree with abortion, and draft a sensible conscience clause, and make sure that all of our health care policies are grounded in clear ethics and sound science, as well as respect for the equality of women.”
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:02 pm | Permalink
Yeah Phantom. Because ya know there’s a ticking clock a la Jack Bauer and I bet this guy has knowledge of innocent lives that are about to be taken. Just like today.
And since waterboarding isnt torture, I think the protection of the innocents DEMANDS he be waterboarded to get information on other jihadist activities.
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Police are investigating Internet posts, out of concern for further violent tendencies…
That could be most interesting…
Roeder had to have some sort of information to tip him off that Tiller would be an Usher for today’s Pentecost Festival service. I’m sure the police will be looking for that informant.
Chas
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:09 pm | Permalink
Police are investigating Internet posts, out of concern for further violent tendencies…
That could be most interesting…
Roeder had to have some sort of information to tip him off that Tiller would be an Usher for today’s Pentecost Festival service. I’m sure the police will be looking for that informant.
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Because Merriam is just so far away this guy couldn’t have been stalking his church for a few weeks (as I suggested in this thread at 1:42p) and acting alone.
Are you stupid? I don’t want to break him out of jail. He just has a right to defense fund. Even the ACLU would agree.
Go buy some flowers for you hero.
or hit me with your Ann Coulter doll?
The one with the internal suction or the vibrating… Never mind!
That was an attempt at a joke in case anyone did not get it.
I should not be surprise that this turned into a political debate. Politics is not everything some time even I forget that! Hate speech can insight, the talking head forget that someone is listening to their words and not everyone had the sense to realize it nothing more than to make money. It a act and the talking heads dismiss that they insight people by saying they are just acting.
But the fact remains that a man was killed today for nothing and another man throw away everything he held dear for nothing. It was not about Christianity, pro-life or pro-choice it was about someone who drove himself crazy and found a reason for his insanity in a cause. That cause is not to blame as much as some words simply fix into his insanity. He was already fill with a rage otherwise those words would not have resounded in his mind.
It is impossible to stop someone who already has such rage, there is not one thing or another that drives them. If not for one reason they find another to feed it. For every ten’s of thousands who say that someone should die for what they do. There will always be one who believes enough to carry it out. But it is their rage and they only find a focus if not this person then it would be another. Someone to blame for what they feel is a misfortune in their own lives. Feeling their own lives are so worthless that it does not stop them from acting out. Their rage is truly against themselves and their own life sadly it happens that they also take others with them into their depths of Hell.
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:12 pm | Permalink
Anti? Would you like me to post ALL the disparaging comments you’ve made today about Tiller?
I’m thinkin law enforcement would appreciate having them aggregated into one post.
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I like to see that along with your posts consolidated into one post. The Police need a good laugh.
Unfortunately, there isn’t enough bandwidth on the WE Blog for that much verbose garbage.
BlueJay
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:15 pm | Permalink
“j3 = bj”
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I apologize BJ.
The more j3 posts the more I come to believe he/she to be for real. Unfortunately
“Your constant attempts at being divisive here are unproudctive and serve to only drag down the WE Blog.”—Nathaniel
Right Nathaniel, kfg is the most divisive, repulsive, obnoxious deviant to contaminate the blog, maybe the earth.
It’s fact, she, it, whatever it is…certainly not a human female, is is so repulsive that it is no wonder it hasn’t been able to maintain a relationship with others, except farm animals.
BlueJay
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:20 pm | Permalink
When’s the party cons?
I KNOW you must have one planned.
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It’s at the Country Club.
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I’m sure you’ll be joining in BJ. We know your disdain for the elite Country Club set.
On that note I’ll be calling it a night.
Vio Con Dios.
As I said within a few minutes of Tillers death making the news, it is a terrible thing. Terrible for the family, God Bless Them Now, terrible for Wichita, terrible for humanity in general.
If there is one curiously interesting thing to come of it, it is how it causes the hysterically crazy pro-death libs to go ballistic blaming totally innocent and uninvolved people.
Yes they certainly are ‘dim’ at the very least and psycho probably.
One positive note.. the Anti-Abortion Movement is now officially dead.
Like those folks across the street from the Old Town Vigil for Tiller displaying the “Your Pastor Is a Wh*r*e” sign”, it’ll be a clown side-show, worse than the discredited Republican Party has become.
And, as I said about the dehumanization that the extremists resort to that turns real people into caricatures and easier to shoot to death or gas.. I only need to quote “It’s fact, she, it, whatever it is…certainly not a human female”
“I believe we ALL read your “Tiller got his justice” post.”—resident repulsive queer
And a liar to boot. Never said I thought that, I said that there is an old saying that one that “lives by the sword, dies by the sword” and that it was something to think about.
Maybe you should too kfg.
So, who’ll be OR’s next target? Organizations, once they lose their original function, quickly adopt another one in order to continue their existence. I’m guessing Planned Parenthood.
BlowJ*b, I made a fool of you….no I allowed you to again make a fool of yourself.
You standing in a parking lot in the middle of winter looking around at every car to pull through guessing if it was me, by your own admission. Again by your own post, standing until you had to go to the bathroom, probably peed your pants first, and then going home still not knowing you’d been punked.
Me, drinking hot coffee, getting my car serviced and laughing my butt off at how stupid you are.
Let the record show bigotbawks is now threatening me.
“I said that there is an old saying that one that “lives by the sword, dies by the sword” and that it was something to think about.
Maybe you should too kfg.”
So bigotbawks, are you the one who’s going to deliver MY justice to me? Like your boy Roeder did today?
You said previously that you had visited my town, asked about me at the medical facilities in the region, and you know me and where I am.
Again you lie lie lie. It that all you are capable of?
I never said anything like that. I travel the whole state and I would no more care to get within a county of you if I knew it and could help it, as I consider you diseased.
And again I made no threat, I say in general to all that it is said, “those that live by the sword die by the sword” and that all should consider it.
Go ahead make a further fool of yourself and make accusations different to that.
“KansasJackass” found this tidbit on ChargeTiller.com –
Scott Roeder
Mon September 03, 2007, 10:49:40
” It seems as though what is happening in Kansas could be compared to the “lawlessness” which is spoken of in the Bible. Tiller is the concentration camp “Mengele” of our day and needs to be stopped before he and those who protect him bring judgement upon our nation.”
The company I am 1/3rd partner in is doing just fine chicken farmer, thanks for your concern.
Payroll, of which I write my own checks, was just fine. I’d love to tell you too, just to turn your jealous stomach, but it’s not polite in public or wise either.
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
you dumb/ass
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Why do you guys keep posting back to the farmers girl? She seems to have all you salviating over responding to her “princess”.
Take a deep breath everyone and look what you are giving HER. She is unapproachable. She is unresponsive to common sense. She is set in her little world but came forth tonight for all you cons to show admiration to her being.
RoaCH
Posted May 31, 2009 at 10:00 pm | Permalink
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RoaCH
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:58 pm | Permalink
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l*sbian
See? It’s like L-E-S-B-I-A-N is the nig*er of the decade!
“I think this blog will prove VERY fruitful for law enforcement.”—the powerless chicken farmer
Is the only way you can find some satisfaction in your miserable life is to lie to yourself?
What has anyone said that is not simply free speech, maybe a little degrading, but still free speech.
I don’t take anything any of the pro-death crowd spewers as worth anything more than spittle.
And there have been NO threats from the pro-life crowd or the ‘Cons’ as you put it.
You simply make a bigger fool of yourself than you already have….if that’s possible.
George Tiller 5/2009
Barnet Slepian 10/1998
Robert Sanderson 1/1998
Shannon Lowney 12/1994
Leanne Nichols 12/1994
John Bayard Britton 7/1994
James H. Barrett 7/1994
David Gunn 3/1993
Correction:
George Tiller 5/2009
Barnett Slepian 10/1998
Robert Sanderson 1/1998
Shannon Lowney 12/1994
Leanne Nichols 12/1994
John Bayard Britton 7/1994
James H. Barrett 7/1994
David Gunn 3/1993
“And there have been NO threats from the pro-life crowd or the ‘Cons’ as you put it.”
I smell fear.
Face it bawks. You threatened me. Remember? And you have almost a year of posts to me to back up that threat. And you yourself claim to have been “asking around” about me. The medical community here isnt that big. So… either you are going to be shown to be a liar, or a threat. I think “stalking” would be appropriate to call it. By your own words, you vistied my town and were looking for information about me.
And then you post threats.
Bright boy.
I bet when the investigation starts, the IRS would like a look at that company of yours.
Ya know, once the investigation of the bigotbox is open, it’s hard to put the lid back on.
A relative of mine just received a collection notice for a medical device that was received yrs. ago, and for which no regular bill was ever issued.
So now my relative must check with the insurance company and see if they ever receiced a claim, or made payment.
Makes sense now.
I think it is in the cons best defense to hold their own posters accountable.
I know the names of several con posters here. Unless and until it can be proven otherwise?
I’m gonna have to think that any con poster I have not met personally is just another nic for one I have. I’ll TRY to be judicious. But I will need their help.
Seeing as how folks on their side are domestic terrorists and all.
You are the one threatening assault/battery against my father on a public forum.”
Nathaniel Price, your father has accosted me twice uninvited and has advertised here today his intention to do so again given the opportunity.
He has also posted that he carries a gun in case he needs to kill someone.
The sign is very clearly out. I consider both you and your father a threat against my life. I seek no personal contact with you. You are warned to stay away.
Political_mama
Posted May 31, 2009 at 2:19 pm | Permalink
And I do feel as I did the day we were struck by the terrorists in the 911 attacks. It isn’t on the same massive scale, no, but this was a man who represented freedom for American women.
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“Face it bawks. You threatened me. Remember?”—lessie
Prove that or shut the hell up you liar. You aren’t even very good at lying chicken farmin lessie. Show one single post or reference to wanting to know anything more about you than I unfortunately do already just from your repulsive posts here.
And that is a challenge for all to read here, put up or shut up and get back in your sh/itty chicken coup.
Chas
Posted May 31, 2009 at 2:22 pm | Permalink
I would highly recommend to Dr. Tiller’s family, that they not publicize the time/place of the Funeral Service, but rather limit it to familyh, close friends, and a short list of specially elected individuals.
There can be a more public memorial event at a later date.
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Chas is now all of a sudden OPPOSED to posting an obituary.
So bigotbawks, are you denying that you said, right here, that you had been in WaKeeney, Quinter, Hill City, etc. and asked around the medical community about me?
Really? Gonna deny it?
And then telling me that I need to “think about” how Tiller lived by the sword and then died by the sword?
Pro-lifers have for many years begged, pleaded, and demanded justice for criminal abortionist quack Tiller’s flagrant violations of state laws and medicals regulations that exploited and put at risk thousands of mothers – begged, pleaded, and demanded from a criminal justice system full of lawmakers, prosecutors, and judges bought off with Tiller’s blood money. They wanted Tiller’s legal prosecution, conviction, and execution, with ample opportunity for his repentance before meeting the Maker he never knew in this life, and regret today’s illegal shooting at his apostate church, just as they would regret an illegal mangling, dismembering, poisoning, or beheading of anyone.
But pro-lifers will not regret the birth of the many babies who would else have soon been profitably dead.
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Yes, I did indeed at one time picket Tiller’s criminal, unsafe abortion mill.
Proud to.
Political_mama
Posted May 31, 2009 at 2:38 pm | Permalink
Its true. The antis were pushing a woman with a cane off the curb at the protests, i’ve seen so much nasty behavior there its unreal.
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Right.
Got a photo, or you just imfaming your gang some more?
You just cant quit me can you?
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You are fly to me. Hardly worth batting away.
But I do enjoy revealing your innerself to other posters so they can see the real you. You are begging for attention, and apparently be degrading, humiliating, and abusing other posters is how you get your kicks.
No go whine and cry to the editor. Everyone was fine with posting until you came along. Please review the last oh say two weeks or two months of postings to confirm.
Go cry now. Get those big alligator tears rolling. Take Kleenex box along.
Must suck to only be able to survive by reporting and banning other posters.
Pedant
Posted May 31, 2009 at 3:03 pm | Permalink
Dr Tiller’s wife was singing in the choir when her husband was murdered. I just can’t wrap my head around how sick his murderer must be.
This is a tragic day for all of America, for all concerned.
Again, all condolences to the Tiller family, and to friends.
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Why is THIS murder more significant then the other 15,000 murders in the last year?
DavidB
Posted May 31, 2009 at 4:41 pm | Permalink
In the U.S., violence directed toward abortion providers has killed at least 7 people, including 3 doctors, 2 clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort.[4]
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“So bigotbawks, are you denying that you said, right here, that you had been in WaKeeney, Quinter, Hill City,”
I’ve been to or through all those towns, it’s my job, and I couldn’t care less about you sl/ut. Except maybe staying far away from your stink. I would imagine though you do have quite an extensive medical history, mostly needing antibiotics for one reason or another….guess.
Everyone needs to think about that biblical axiom I posted….everyone. That’s no threat and you know it, but you are a consummate liar.
“Live by the sword, die by the sword” is a metaphorical expression meaning that living one’s life in a certain way will, in the end, affect one’s destiny. The proverb comes from the Book of Matthew, verse 26:52.
You should read and study it lessie, and the rest of the Book too.
“In the U.S., violence directed toward abortion providers has killed at least 7 people, including 3 doctors, 2 clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort.[4]”
Our resident Bean flicker is apparently back. She is definately the angry L-E-S-B-I-A-N. Just like the angry libs, her posts tonight reflect only the same.
So roach is posting obscenity, bigotbawks is denying his comments about stalking me, jim johnson or max or whoever he is today is saying Tiller got what he deserved because he performed legal medical proceedures.
All in all, a day the cons will look back upon proudly.
If any are left standing after today.
Maybe the We will just shut this place down.
And you cons can go post at godhatesfags.com.
Cause ya know, one group to murder is as good as another.
Babies murdered. Tiller the Killer (posted multiple times on this blog), etc.
Is it really any wonder that someone acted on the rhetoric?
And not one (of at least 8) of the people killed because of their association with abortion clinics was killed by a “victim of a botched abortion” or “an enemy within the abortion industryR
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Your Sunday morning cartoon —
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGE8wVTvHF0
Your Sunday morning hymn –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt0VM9z_ltk&feature=related
Your Sunday morning sermon –
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/24039/october-17-2005/the-word—truthiness
O is being tested world wide and failing.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05312009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/testing_os_limits__he_has_none__171834.htm
“george” looks to a novelist –
Owen Parry (whose pen name is “Ralph Peters” is a CON fantasist for the Rupert Murdock propaganda machine.
He’s a retired United States Army Lieutenant Colonel. A full career who didn’t get to an O-5 pay grade ’til the day he retired.
Yeah, “george.”
Keep flogging that particular line of attack.
Jerk of the year award goes to Bill Donahue. In an interview on an Irish station, he claims that priests never raped children and those who claim so are just gold diggers. Even the Catholic Church disagrees with him but Donahue says the kids were just slapped on the ass or the temperature in the room was too cold, there wasn’t rape.
http://www.atheistmedia.com/2009/05/bill-donohue-denies-catholic-church.html
Thank goodness the Irish are smart enough to know that Donahue represents only Donahue and you’d be hard pressed to find anyone in America who thinks like him.
Brought over from the ‘OPINION’ section because it is so worthy.
Be accountable
“Life is full of choices, from the time we are children until we complete our journey in this life. If we are truly honest with ourselves, our lot in life is largely a collection of all the choices we make along the way.
Yet it seems an increasing number of people don’t wish to be accountable for their choices. They want, and even expect, that someone else should be accountable and liable for the consequences of their poor choices. They support the notion that government — through legislation, executive order or the courts — should intervene on their behalf to cover their losses by taking from those who have made better choices.
Setting the morality of this notion aside, this movement toward involuntary “redistribution of wealth” is a very slippery slope for society and our country. When we adopt a philosophy that we don’t have to be accountable for our choices, we are destined for collective failure as individuals and as a society.”
PAUL WHEELER
Wichita
On this date, May 31st, record setting temperatures for Wichita Kansas.
High: 100 °F (1934)
Low:44 °F (1975)
Thanks, Boxlock20!
Paul Wheeler contributes every six months or so and he always hits the nail right on the head!
I wonder how our grand children will fare twenty-thirty years from now when they are enslaved by our national debt.
apan considering an INCREASE in CO2 emissions
The high costs Japan would incur if Tokyo promises to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 25 percent from 1990 levels by 2020 would be hard for the public to accept during the recession, Prime Minister Taro Aso said on Friday. His comments showed there was still no consensus within the government after Environment Minister Tetsuo Saito said earlier this week that setting a mid-term target for cuts in a range of 15 to 25 percent was one option.
Aso has said he would announce Japan’s mid-term target by mid-June, so he can set out Japan’s views at a July meeting of G8 leaders and a U.N. conference in December that is meant to agree a new global climate pact to replace the Kyoto Protocol.
Japan, the world’s fifth largest emitter, is under great pressure from developing nations to show leadership by opting for deep emissions reductions to ensure a strong outcome in December’s gathering in the Danish capital Copenhagen. A panel of experts, professors and industry officials has presented Aso with a choice of six target options relative to 1990 levels. It said that curbing carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions by regulations or other measures would boost energy costs, increase job losses and thus have a net negative impact on the economy.
The other five options, ranging from an increase of 4 percent to a cut of 15 percent, all fall short of a 25-40 percent cut required of rich nations by a U.N. panel of scientists to minimise the risk of the worst impacts of global warming. “At a time of deep recession like this, it would be difficult to ignore the (larger) costs for the public to bear,” Aso said, when asked about the minus 25 percent option. “To trust their morale only would not be the resolution,” Aso told a budget committee in Friday’s parliament session.
Aso referred to an assessment by economists of the effect of each option on the economy, which showed under the minus 25 percent target scenario, energy costs in 2020 would be 140,000 yen ($1,453) per household per year more than those under the weakest one. The same estimate also showed annual disposable income per household would be 220,000 yen less than that under the weakest option, in which users are allowed to keep the current pace of buying low-emission goods and facilities, resulting in emissions exceeding by 4 percent from 1990 levels by 2020.
Aso also told the same committee that he would take into account that the plus 4 percent option attracted the largest number of comments from the public in the past month.
How to gauge voters’ views is critical for Aso as public opinion polls put the opposition Democrats ahead of his Liberal Democratic Party in the run-up to an election, which many speculate will be in August and must be held by October.
SOURCE
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/feedarticle/8531793
NASA: SUN IS BEHAVING IN AN UNEXPECTED WAY
An international panel of experts led by NOAA and sponsored by NASA has released a new prediction for the next solar cycle. Solar Cycle 24 will peak, they say, in May 2013 with a below-average number of sunspots. “If our prediction is correct, Solar Cycle 24 will have a peak sunspot number of 90, the lowest of any cycle since 1928 when Solar Cycle 16 peaked at 78,” says panel chairman Doug Biesecker of the NOAA Space Weather Prediction Center.
It is tempting to describe such a cycle as “weak” or “mild,” but that could give the wrong impression. “Even a below-average cycle is capable of producing severe space weather,” points out Biesecker. “The great geomagnetic storm of 1859, for instance, occurred during a solar cycle of about the same size we’re predicting for 2013.”…
The latest forecast revises an earlier prediction issued in 2007. At that time, a sharply divided panel believed solar minimum would come in March 2008 followed by either a strong solar maximum in 2011 or a weak solar maximum in 2012. Competing models gave different answers, and researchers were eager for the sun to reveal which was correct.
“It turns out that none of our models were totally correct,” says Dean Pesnell of the Goddard Space Flight Center, NASA’s lead representative on the panel. “The sun is behaving in an unexpected and very interesting way.”
More HERE:
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/29may_noaaprediction.htm?list46030
HERE’S A GOOD QUESTION: HOW MANY IPCC SCIENTISTS FABRICATE AND FALSIFY RESEARCH?
It’s a surprisingly common phenomenon generally and the way Warmist scientists repeatedly refuse to release their raw data and details of their analytical procedures tells its own story
It’s a long-standing and crucial question that, as yet, remains unanswered: just how common is scientific misconduct? In the online, open-access journal PLoS ONE, Daniele Fanelli of the University of Edinburgh reports the first meta-analysis of surveys questioning scientists about their misbehaviours. The results suggest that altering or making up data is more frequent than previously estimated and might be particularly high in medical research. [That I can believe. Any reader of my FOOD & HEALTH SKEPTIC blog will know of the low to juvenile standards in medical research]
Recent scandals like Hwang Woo-Suk’s fake stem-cell lines or Jon Sudbø’s made-up cancer trials have dramatically demonstrated that fraudulent research is very easy to publish, even in the most prestigious journals. The media and many scientists tend to explain away these cases as pathological deviations of a few “bad apples.” Common sense and increasing evidence, however, suggest that these could be just the tip of the iceberg, because fraud and other more subtle forms of misconduct might be relatively frequent. The actual numbers, however, are a matter of great controversy.
Estimates based on indirect data (for example, official retractions of scientific papers or random data audits) have produced largely discrepant results. Therefore, many researchers have asked scientists directly, with surveys conducted in different countries and disciplines. However, they have used different methods and asked different questions, so their results also appeared inconclusive.
To make these surveys comparable, the meta-analysis focused on behaviours that actually distort scientific knowledge (excluding data on plagiarism and other kinds of malpractice) and extracted the frequency of scientists who recalled having committed a particular behaviour at least once, or who knew a colleague who did.
On average, across the surveys, around 2% of scientists admitted they had “fabricated” (made up), “falsified” or “altered” data to “improve the outcome” at least once, and up to 34% admitted to other questionable research practices including “failing to present data that contradict one’s own previous research” and “dropping observations or data points from analyses based on a gut feeling that they were inaccurate.”
In surveys that asked about the behaviour of colleagues, 14% knew someone who had fabricated, falsified or altered data, and up to 72% knew someone who had committed other questionable research practices.
In both kinds of surveys, misconduct was reported most frequently by medical and pharmacological researchers. This suggests that either the latter are more open and honest in their answers, or that frauds and bias are more frequent in their fields. The latter interpretation would support growing fears that industrial sponsorship is severely distorting scientific evidence to promote commercial treatments and drugs.
As in all surveys asking sensitive questions, it is likely that some respondents did not reply honestly, especially when asked about their own behaviour. Therefore, a frequency of 2% is probably a conservative estimate, while it remains unclear how the figure of 14% should be interpreted.
SOURCE
http://www.physorg.com/news162795064.html
HLP posted May 31, 2009 at 9:35 am
HERE’S A GOOD QUESTION: HOW MANY IPCC SCIENTISTS FABRICATE AND FALSIFY RESEARCH?
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Hank, will you ever learn the basics about the issue you attack and deny?
The IPCC does not do climate research.
Dr. Mörner’s 2004 paper could be a considered a good example of misuse of data.
‘Sea-level rise at tropical Pacific and Indian Ocean islands ‘
http://staff.acecrc.org.au/~johunter/Church_et_al_2006_published.pdf
More Fascism from the Boy Kings crew.
“First, we will expand the restriction on oral communications to cover all persons, not just federally registered lobbyists. For the first time, we will reach contacts not only by registered lobbyists but also by unregistered ones, as well as anyone else exerting influence on the process. We concluded this was necessary under the unique circumstances of the stimulus program.”
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/TapscottsCopyDesk/White-House-moves-to-restrict-criticism-of-stimulus-projects–46540777.html
JIM MANZI: WAXMAN-MARKEY CLIMATE BILL CANNOT SURVIVE COST-BENFIT ANALYSIS
Democrats in the White House and Congress are now making the most serious push ever for legislation to force reductions of U.S. carbon-dioxide emissions. The stated purpose is to reduce potential future harm from human-caused climate change, and the vehicle is a climate-and-energy bill commonly referred to as Waxman-Markey. But the reasoning behind this proposal is innumerate, even if we accept the scientific and economic assumptions of its advocates.
According to the authoritative U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), under a reasonable set of assumptions for global economic and population growth, the world should expect to warm by about 2.8°C over the next century. Also according to the IPCC, a global increase in temperature of 4°C should cause the world to lose about 3 percent of its economic output. So if we do not take measures to ameliorate global warming, the world should expect to be about 3 percent poorer sometime in the 22nd century than it otherwise would be. This is very far from the rhetoric of global destruction. Because of its geographical position and mix of economic activities, the United States is expected to experience no net economic costs from such warming through the end of this century, and to begin experiencing net costs only thereafter.
A government program to force emissions reductions to avoid some of these potential future losses would impose a cost of its own: the loss in consumption we would experience if we used less energy, substituted higher-cost sources of energy for fossil fuels, and paid for projects — which are termed “offsets” — to ameliorate the effect of emissions (an example would be planting lots of trees). It’s complicated to estimate the cost of an emissions-reduction program, but the leading economists in this area generally agree that it would be large, and that we should simply let most emissions happen, because it would be more expensive to avoid them than to accept the damage they would cause. This makes sense, if you consider that most such plans (for example, Waxman-Markey) call for eliminating something like 80 percent of carbon emissions within the next 40 years or so. Even if the economy becomes more efficient over this period, such a quick transition away from our primary fossil-fuel sources will be expensive.
If a) the total potential benefit of emissions abatement is about 3 percent of economic output more than 100 years from now, b) we can avoid only some of this damage, and c) it’s expensive to prevent those emissions that we can prevent, the net benefit of emissions reduction will likely be a very small fraction of total economic output. William Nordhaus, who heads the widely respected environmental-economics-modeling group at Yale, estimates the total expected net benefit of an optimally designed, implemented, and enforced global program to be equal to the present value of about 0.2 percent of future global economic consumption. In the real world of domestic politics and geostrategic competition, it is not realistic to expect that we would ever have an optimally designed, implemented, and enforced global system, and the side deals made to put in place even an imperfect system would likely have costs that would dwarf 0.2 percent of global economic consumption. The expected benefits of emissions mitigation do not cover its expected costs. This is the root reason that proposals to mitigate emissions have such a hard time justifying themselves economically.
The mechanism for mitigation proposed in the Waxman-Markey bill is a “cap and trade” plan. The idea is quite simple: The government sets a fixed annual limit to total carbon-dioxide emissions and distributes ration cards for the right to emit a portion of this amount (that’s the “cap”); it also allows those who receive ration cards to sell them (that’s the “trade”). Now, “distributes” is an artfully chosen word: How would the government decide who gets the ration cards? One method is to sell them; another is to give them away, theoretically based on some objective criterion such as historical emissions, but in practice more likely based on campaign contributions. Waxman-Markey doesn’t specify how the distributing is to be accomplished. The Obama administration expects to sell ration cards, bringing the government $80 billion a year in revenue over the next decade. This revenue represents a cost increase for more or less any company that uses lots of fossil-fuel energy in one way or another (i.e., most of the economy). Like all raw-material cost increases, these will be passed along to consumers in the form of higher prices. So in reality this is a backdoor tax on energy that conscripts private companies into being collection agents.
Would these costs be justified by the benefits we could expect Waxman-Markey to create? No, for the reasons outlined above.
More HERE
http://nrd.nationalreview.com/article/?q=ZDU1OGMyZjkwYWM1ZTBkZTVmMTA3MzVhZTE4ZjcxYTE=
Actually, Jerk of the DECADE goes to the delightful Donahue.
I have to break this mofo up into SENTENCES now, it would appear. That insipid “moderation” thang kept rearing its ugly head.
Who, oh WHO, is responsible for this, I wonder? Am I really all that bad? I’m not all THAT bad, am I?
I can’t help it if the folks didn’t swear off after two kiddies. Ain’t my fault.
Why do you continually befoul the bonhomie like this by placing the image of Donahue in my tender retinal regions this morning, Maggot Punk?
I can’t be sure, but it’s probably not like you’ve been dealt such an awful hand in life. I can’t be sure, but you’re probably not one of those fat, mentally challenged young men who’s been kept chained in his mother’s basement for years, only brought outside for the annual family picture and such…..
Oh well, if I understood everthang in this up-#$%@ed world of ours, I’d be sanctified, beatified and beautified…
Anyway, as I do not have my home PC any longer and am forced to trot on over to Kinko’s every bleeping time I wanna use the ‘puter, and it seems the Blog’s censors are after my a– with a Valhallic vengeance of late….
I missed my brother’s call yesterday; I was out buying some lovely over-the-cringe-worthy-counter crap for this lovely affliction brought about my opiate painkillers. (PRESCRIBED painkillers).
He hasn’t called back – but that’s OK. I’ve sort of braced myself for that possibility.
Okay – gotta break this up – those cruel, gullible, malleable(?) censors are probably gonna bite…..
In pondering our history – and in evaluating some of the mistakes I’ve made in my own life (INSERT: I don’t think any of ‘em are bad enough to ban me from this Blog. Just in case anyone is tryin’ to do that…..)
In looking back over the last two years my brother and I did communicate: It was all quite one-sided. All efforts were instigated by me. I offered him my phone number, when it was manifest he had no interest in calling (he didn’t).
Any sort of relationship has to be mutual – to be mutually respectful. I do not believe I have actually hurt anyone or been intentionally direspectful, but the truth is – I’ve been disrespectful.
If it’s obvious that the emotional temperature is zero (or sub-zero), one should probably recognize that and proceed accordingly.
I don’t know if the emotional temp is any different than it was in the mid-1990’s. At least I have extended the olive branch.
That way, if one of us croaks before the decade is out, at least I’ll know I’ve made an effort.
I’ve made mistakes in the past. Mature, responsible adults should learn from their mistakes and avoid repeating them.
Tiller was shot fatally at his church this morning?
Condolences to Dr. Tiller’s family.
Sad day for Wichita, too: condolences to every resident as well.
I sincerely hope that whomever shot Dr. Tiller this morning, is found, tried, and put to death.
WHile I did not agree with Dr. Tiller’s preactice in general, it doesn;t freaking matter. He was providing a legal service, that was apparently needed or wanted by his clients. He deserved to be left alone in his private life, and really, at his clinic.
WHomever shot and killed him deserves the same
“Pedant” –
It’s apparently true.
You knew it was going to happen some day.
Let’s just sit back and watch how CONs defend the assassin.
At a church, no less.
“Praise Juh-HEEEEEEEEEZZZ-Zus!
(And pass the collection plate.)
Condolences to Dr. Tiller’s family and friends.
Wow. That’s pretty messed up. Well I’m speechless. That’s a really nice church to, had to be devastating to everybody attending this morning. I send my condolences as well to the church, and Tiller’s family.
This is fn bullsheet. Stan Finger. Name is familiar eh?
George Tiller…..shot to death.
Confirmed in a gmail breaking news from the Eagle.
Dr. Tiller shot to death as he was walking into church services.
It’s a sad day whenever anyone’s life is taken away.
May God have mercy on his soul.
Happy aint ya bawks? You people have been wishing for this for years.
FilmFan-
All endeavors on the path of reconciliation are not in vain, even if the only healing is of your mind and soul in knowing that you know you have tried. May God bless those endeavors.
Some More Breaking News:
First Couple’s NY Date: a Campaign Promise Kept
Have plane, will travel: Obamas head to Broadway for dinner and a play
The president and first lady jetted to a date in New York late Saturday afternoon, aides and media in tow.
“I am taking my wife to New York City because I promised her during the campaign that I would take her to a Broadway show after it was all finished,” the president said in a statement an aide read to the press.
After dining a little more than two hours at Blue Hill, a West Village restaurant touted by New York magazine as a “seminal Greenmarket haven” that features food grown by chef and owner Dan Barber on his upstate farm, the president and first lady headed to the Belasco Theater to make it in time for “Joe Turner’s Come and Gone.”
The play by August Wilson is about black America in the early 1900s, with residents of a boardinghouse recalling their migration from the sharecropping farms of the South to the industrialized North.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=7717553
WTF man…wtf
George Tiller shot to death at church
BY STAN FINGER, The Wichita Eagle
George Tiller, the Wichita doctor who became a national lightning rod in the debate over abortion, was shot to death this morning as he walked into church services.
Sorry, “Barnie” –
“Condolences” are inappropriate.
What’s appropriate is outrage.
What’s really “appropriate” would be to open fire on advocates of illegal abortion and some bombings of their homes, offices and churches. But we “libruhls” aren’t always “appropriate.”
Yeah, I really want revenge. I want retribution. I want to respond in kind.
But I’m a “libruhl.” I’m civilized. I’ll let the justice system take its course. I’ll live with the decision of a judge and jury.
I might not like it. (I might.)
I might complain about it for a long time. (Count on it.)
But I’m not gonna bomb the offices of advocates of illegal abortion. I’m not gonna be the one who gets “parkay” or Brenda Landwehr strapping on bullet-proof vests from now on.
Nope.
I’m just going to use this as an example CONs are getting desperate and violent and insane. (Not necessarily in that order.)
RIGHT NOW there is a sign about Tiller in front of Spirit One church. I cannot see how they are not complicit in ginning up this act.
The mind of a liberal
“What’s really “appropriate” would be to open fire on advocates of illegal abortion and some bombings of their homes, offices and churches. But we “libruhls” aren’t always “appropriate.”
Yeah, I really want revenge. I want retribution. I want to respond in kind. “
This is how some of you Christians win aint it? By killing people you disagree with.
Rush to judgement, get the nooses ready now!
“Happy aint ya bawks? You people have been wishing for this for years.”—BlueJay
Not happy, but sad that our society is in such bad shape, and sad for everyone involved.
Sad that his killing of innocent life drove someone else to take human life.
That said, I have had the feeling this was inevitable sooner or later.
Hey MOnkeyhawk-
You wanna kill the guy that killed Dr. Tiller? Go ahead. You should get rid of the rest of your hatred
“JimJohnson’s” response to the assassination of Doctor George Tiller?
Gripe about the President and First Lady on a dinner-and-the-theatre date.
Real class from one of WE Blog’s most prominent CONs.
JR’s hysterical isn’t he?
Typical non-thinking emotional reaction to the world.
And full of hate.
He makes a nice case study. Like watching Willard find the cheese.
“I have had the feeling this was inevitable sooner or later.”
Of course it was.
Because of people like you, that pastor at Spirit One, Bill O’Reilly etc etc.
You know there are so few doctors who will take care of women who truly need a late term abortion and now we have one less. What the hell is wrong with you freaks! This is lifesaving he did. He wasn’t the monster you antis made him out to be.
This environment is like a gang, they breed this kind of hatred for abortion providers and they should all be charged.
Monkeyhawk
Posted May 31, 2009 at 11:47 am | Permalink
“JimJohnson’s” response to the assassination of Doctor George Tiller?
Gripe about the President and First Lady on a dinner-and-the-theatre date.
Real class from one of WE Blog’s most prominent CONs.
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My response to Tiller? Not hardly.
Tiller’s death is but one of 15,000 murders every year in America.
Tiller was nothing to me, neither the hero nor villain that some of you see him as, or as he used to be.
His murder is sad, but no more or less so then the 15,000 others killed in America every year.
Interesting that we don’t know who killed Dr. Tiller or why but the radical left wing nitwits on the BLOG have already used the misfortune of his death to spew their irrational hate toward Christians, conservatives and anyone with the intellectual capacity to disagree with their radical liberal agenda.
If the murderer of Dr Tiller turns out to be a democrat that was the victim of a botched abortion how will they defend their irrational hate?
The CONs’ defense of cold-blooded murder astounds.
It doesn’t particularly surprise me, given their rhetoric.
But it astounds.
Keep at it, CONs!
Try to murder us all!
See how that works out for ya.
Right on que JR, attack and hate.
Pmomma, there are still plenty of doctors available to do abortions. You act like Tiller was the only one.
Monkey joins the emotional reactionary crowd.
Surprise.
It seems the “culture war” just went hot.
And that is fine with me.
“HLP” –
Next you’ll tell us “If only George Tiller were carrying a concealed weapon he’d be alive today.
P.S. — Just where was The Boy this morning?
Monkeyhawk whimpers and lies,
“The CONs’ defense of cold-blooded murder astounds.”
I must have missed the ‘defense’ of murder.
What is astounding is your willingness to use the unfortunate death of Dr Tiller as just another opportunity to spew your hate.
Must really suck to be you.
There are TWO in the NATION who do late term abortions you ignorant ___.
Yeah we know it wasn’t a democrat who killed Tiller, but you keep on hoping Hank.
Just one more black mark against the State of Kansas and those who live here.
Playing the U.S. for a patsy
Article published May 30, 2009
ON MEMORIAL Day, North Korea tested a nuclear weapon for the second time. President Obama issued a statement describing this as “a matter of grave concern to all nations” and then went off to play a round of golf.
“By acting in blatant defiance of the United Nations Security Council, North Korea is directly and reckless challenging the international community,” he said.
In an emergency meeting Monday, the U.N. Security Council called the test a “clear violation” of a 2006 council resolution forbidding such tests.
The North Koreans, always desperate for money and unscrupulous about how to obtain it, have been assisting Iran and Syria in their pursuit of nuclear weapons and would sell nuclear technology to al-Qaeda if their palms were crossed with enough silver. For South Korea and Japan, the stakes are higher.
I suspect the North Koreans continue to defy the “international community” because they expect the torrent of words to be followed by more words. Mr. Obama’s statement, and that of the U.N. Security Council, suggest this is the case.
For its part, the Security Council said it was considering another resolution. These are not threats which make dictators quake in their boots.
The North Koreans’ defiance of the United States and United Nations is nothing new. They have been a thorn in the side of every U.S. president from Harry Truman on. What is new – or was – was Mr. Obama’s naive and egotistical belief he could change North Korean behavior by reaching out to them.
“The new nuclear test carried out by North Korea demonstrates the complete failure, so far, of U.S. President Barack Obama’s softly, softly diplomacy and willingness to start afresh with old enemies,” wrote Australian journalist Greg Sheridan.
Defiance has worked well for the North Koreans because the typical response has been to try to bribe them into better behavior. Bribery reached its height during the Clinton administration, when President Bill Clinton offered them free food and fuel oil, and to build two nuclear electric generating plants, if they would shutter their nuclear weapons plant at Yongbyon.
The North Koreans agreed, but began cheating right away.
“Pyongyang may well be able to sell its Yongbyon reactor to the Americans for a third time, only to continue with nuclear activities at other sites and to reopen Yongbyon when the new agreement inevitably collapses,” Mr. Sheridan wrote.
The North Koreans have to be encouraged by President Obama’s apparent commitment to continue in the six-party talks (Russia, China, Japan, South Korea, North Korea, the United States) despite the test.
http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090530/COLUMNIST14/905300343/0/BUSINESS
Oh Parkay….where are you. I wouldn’t be surprised to find it was one of the goons on this blog that you cons have defended.
In a May 20 article in the Wall Street Journal, former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton predicted the nuclear test, which appears to have caught the Obama Administration by surprise.
“If the next nuclear explosion doesn’t derail the six party-talks, [North Korean dictator] Kim [Jong Il] will rightly conclude that he faces no real danger of ever having to dismantle his weapons program,” Mr. Bolton said. “Negotiations like the six-party talks are a charade and reflect a continuing collapse of American resolve.”
http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090530/COLUMNIST14/905300343/0/BUSINESS
“HLP” goes into full crocodile tears mode with –
“…the unfortunate death of Dr Tiller….”
Yeah.
I feel your pain.
Where was The Boy this morning?
This should be a proud day for conservatives. What they couldn’t accomplish in court they accomplished at gun point.
No need for the phony condolences. This was done by one of your kind; one of you.
Today, hate wins.
I’ve been saying it for years.
The fundamentalist Christian community is the enemy of freedom loving Americans. They can’t be treated as fellow Americans with an unusual point of view.
They must be treated as enemies.
I wonder who he was praying to? North Korea must be very worried.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/05/on-golf-course.html
On Golf Course, President Obama Pauses for Moment of Silent Prayer
May 25, 2009 6:43 PM
ABC News’ Jake Tapper and Karen Travers report: In his remarks at Arlington National Cemetery this morning, President Obama called on all Americans to observe Memorial Day, a day of “silent remembrance and solemn prayer,” by pausing for a moment of national unity at 3 pm this afternoon.
For President Obama that moment came in the middle of a round of golf at Ft. Belvoir in Virginia.
The president spent around four hours on the links this afternoon — arriving around 1:30 and leaving just before 5:30 — staying in Washington after the ceremony at Arlington instead of flying back to Camp David as he was originally scheduled.
White House aides told reporters that the president paused at 3 p.m. to observe a moment of silent prayer.
I agree, Pre.
I feel sad for all of you. This news plus Phelps in Topeka will keep Kansas in the national outhouse for some time.
Bleeding Kansas, how long do you have to wear that monikor. When will it stop?
The killing of George Tiller today marks a sad day in the pro-life movement. Before the left begins their tirades this is not the work of dedicated pro-life advocates.
Wow. Just, wow.
Someone just poured gasoline on a fire with a reprehensible act.
Yeah, the killing of Dr Tiller also marks a day in his and his family’s life as well.
Good grief.
marks a sad day
HLP
Posted May 31, 2009 at 11:52 am | Permalink
Interesting that we don’t know who killed Dr. Tiller or why but the radical left wing nitwits on the BLOG have already used the misfortune of his death to spew their irrational hate toward Christians, conservatives and anyone with the intellectual capacity to disagree with their radical liberal agenda.
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Fanantical aren’t they? You can see them working themselves into a frenzy.
Interesting case study in the Liberal Brain Washed Mind, and how they might be stirred-up in the future, say by a passionate and eloquent speaker at a rally.
WE says the police are looking for Kansas tag 225-BAB
Good, go get ‘em.
“okobserver” tries –
“…this is not the work of dedicated pro-life advocates.”
And you base this on…?
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XXX
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:01 pm | Permalink
This should be a proud day for conservatives. What they couldn’t accomplish in court they accomplished at gun point.
No need for the phony condolences. This was done by one of your kind; one of you.
Today, hate wins.
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Really, XXX?
Who killed Tiller? What was his religious affiliation? What was his political affiliation?
Do you know or do you merely hope you know like Monkeyhawk?
Tiller was a scourge on the earth. I think he was a murderer and I do not mourn his passing. That being said, I don’t condone his murder.
XXX
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:01 pm | Permalink
This should be a proud day for conservatives. What they couldn’t accomplish in court they accomplished at gun point.
No need for the phony condolences. This was done by one of your kind; one of you.
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Guilt by association now.
It will be one more bullet to be fired against Christians and the pro-life. The anger and hate will associate even those who are a gasp at the violence taken. Those that commit such acts as the bombings and killings do not see that by doing so they are causing the damning of their cause and their faith.
Claiming to be doing so in the defense of moral high ground and also taking the name of the Lord thy God in vain so they are doing it in the name of the Lord. There will be shame to be had, for even at the outcry there will be deep inside many who will say he had it coming.
A new poster child for the pro-life will be found a new enemy to focus on.
Nothing has been gained and only the association with the killing will be the outcome.
The Lord see all sins as great and only the human race see in their defense a degree between them.
Even if there is no knowledge before the act, all those who take the side of being Anti abortion will bare the guilt. That is not right, but in such a emotion issue sense and right are not a part of the thought process.
Also says Dr Tiller’s corpse hasn’t been removed from the church.
What a sad sad day.
I wonder if Obama is guilty of anything?
Hsu
Blago
Ayers
Wright……
Oh my!
Tragic news for the Tiller family and friends. May God comfort them.
I read at Kansas dot com, they are looking for a light blue Taurus, forgot the license plate number…man in his 50-60s, slightly balding with gray hair.
Perhaps we all should be looking at the streets from our houses to assist the police with this murderer’s capture.
“That being said, I don’t condone his murder.”
Of course you do. You’re just too dishonest to say so.
Scum.
Unbelievable.
Whatever your belief it doesn’t give you right to be judge jury and executioner.
By taking Tiller’s life this nitwit has proven himself no better.
To the shooter: You won alot of souls today for the Lord re+ard.
writerdog
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:10 pm | Permalink
It will be one more bullet to be fired against Christians and the pro-life. The anger and hate will associate even those who are a gasp at the violence taken. Those that commit such acts as the bombings and killings do not see that by doing so they are causing the damning of their cause and their faith.
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All Christians and all Pro-Lifers are condemned by this act by one person?
Riggghhhtttt…..
Get a grip.
Police looking for a 90’s era light blue Ford Taurus with Kansas tags. Registered in Merriam, Ks.
You can’t expect anything logical from Hank. Hank even believes that his being a Navy “liason” (sic) to scientists long ago makes him more knowledgeable today about climate science than the worlds top climate scientists.
Channel 3 has the story.
Finally.
Pretty brave talk while you hide behind the blue glow of your monitor, BlueJay.
Have you got the balls to say that to my face?
Monkeyhawk
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:09 pm | Permalink
“okobserver” tries –
“…this is not the work of dedicated pro-life advocates.”
And you base this on…?
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I know because I am a dedicated pro-lifer and I have never raised a hand against anyone or walked a protest line, and I am part of the majority of pro-lifers who share my stance against violence.
Now what are your basing your accusations against pro-lifers. Maybe he was a father who saw his child being killed. At this point we don’t know do we?
Before making judgements we need to know what we are talking about.
Monkeyhawk
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:01 pm | Permalink
“HLP” goes into full crocodile tears mode with –
“…the unfortunate death of Dr Tiller….”
Yeah.
I feel your pain.
Where was The Boy this morning?
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Brought to you by: The Holier then Thou poster.
Why? So you can use your gun to kill me?
“HLP” offers –
“…I do not mourn his passing.”
No, you’re dancing on his grave.
Y’know, the true “christian” response.
Your allies have bombed his clinic, shot him before, and finally murdered him. 3rd time’s a charm, I guess, for you CONs.
P.S. — Where was The Boy this morning?
Aint had enough blood today Price?
Last I hear, you punk out on meetings there Hank.
BlueJay
Posted May 31, 2009 at 11:54 am | Permalink
It seems the “culture war” just went hot.
And that is fine with me.
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BlueJay
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:01 pm | Permalink
I’ve been saying it for years.
The fundamentalist Christian community is the enemy of freedom loving Americans. They can’t be treated as fellow Americans with an unusual point of view.
They must be treated as enemies.
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BlueJay
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:16 pm | Permalink
Why? So you can use your gun to kill me?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
And just what does this mean?
Inciting a riot?
A call to arms by those who protest having arms?
A call for Group Hate?
Writer you need to get a grip. Lately your posts are pretty radical. So if one dem, Phelps, does something outrageous we should condem the entire party.
Puleezze!
“HLP” hides behind the blue glow of his monitor and asks –
“Have you got the balls to say that to my face?”
I do.
You name the time.
I’ll name the place.
Again.
And to my knowledge we don’t know anything about him, his religion, or his party affiliation do we?
Political_mama
Posted May 31, 2009 at 11:57 am | Permalink
There are TWO in the NATION who do late term abortions you ignorant ___.
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Gosh, if there is nothing wrong with it, then why so few?
Got the balls to say it to my face, little man? Next time I see you I’ll give you an opportunity to apologize.
Way to go, CONs. You’re hate speech finally led to what you wanted, some easily influenced violent-prone induvidual acting on what you were only saying . . .
Tiller is dead. And Hank Price and Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson and all the rest of them pulled the effing trigger.
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Monkeyhawk
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:20 pm | Permalink
“HLP” hides behind the blue glow of his monitor and asks –
“Have you got the balls to say that to my face?”
I do.
You name the time.
I’ll name the place.
Again.
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I’ll name the time,
I’ll meet you the next time you’re in Wichita.
Now you name the place. (Bring JR with you.)
nitwit
May God take judgment on your soul.
I’m appaled at Dr. Tiller’s murder. Two observations: most prolifers will also be appalled because they’re not all extremists. And once the killer is apprehended, he will become an Eric Rudolph-style pro-life martyr.
Doesn’t Gietzen live up that way?
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HLP
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:20 pm | Permalink
Got the balls to say it to my face, little man? Next time I see you I’ll give you an opportunity to apologize.
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How old are you?
Grow up, jackhole.
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Political_mama
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:27 pm | Permalink
Doesn’t Gietzen live up that way?
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Who is Gieztzen?
Let’s set that misconception aside.
In stature, I am about equal in height with Hank Price.
Good morning, Daniel.
You must have missed what BlueJay wrote,
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BlueJay
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:12 pm | Permalink
“That being said, I don’t condone his murder.”
Of course you do. You’re just too dishonest to say so.
Scum.
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You’ll have to pardon me for taking offense that a small, wormy ward of the state has used the death of an infamous abortionist as an opportunity to personally defame me.
He doesn’t have the balls to talk to me face to face. Neither does Monkeyhawk. Like BlueJay, Monkeyhawk is all talk and no action. He uses Dr. Tiller’s death as an opportunity to spew his hate toward Christians and conservatives in general and my boy and I specifically.
“HLP” defies logic with –
“I’ll name the time,
I’ll meet you the next time you’re in Wichita.”
So, basically, I’d have to determine the “time.”
And I’m the “(nitwit)”?!
Please, “HLP.” Stop embarrassing yourself and live up to our original agreement. Or our second agreement.
For our second meet-up, I’ll agree with our original agreement and you can name the place, I’ll name the time. Just as I promised.
Sorry to be so honorable on this little issue, but honor used to seem important to you.
It’s kinda pathetic to see how that’s no longer true.
P.S. — Where was The Boy this morning?
CapnAmerica
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:24 pm | Permalink
May God take judgment on your soul.
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As he will on us all Capn including Tillers.
“He doesn’t have the balls to talk to me face to face.”
Uh huh.
For those who HAVEN’T met him, Hank has a spongy handshake and is incapable of looking people in the eye.
The tag is traced back to a residence in Marion, KS, according to KSN.com.
Marion, who lives in Marion?
What do you bet the perpetrator has a network of support?
Given past “pro life” activity, I’d say that’s a fair assumption.
A RO is as good as BS.
I’m sure you got that point, but the Libs think the Nanny State protects them 24/7.
Violent rhetoric has effects. pigs
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okobserver
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:20 pm | Permalink
And to my knowledge we don’t know anything about him, his religion, or his party affiliation do we?
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Doesn’t take much of a stretch to guess that this was done by some radical fundamentalist Republican. Hate speech has consequences as we see this morning. There has been a blizzard of hate speech from the right directed at Tiller, including most of the conservative bloggers on these boards.
Excellent example of how the far right settles disagreement. If you can’t win in the courts or in public opinion, just shoot somebody.
The right owns this one. Be prepared for the results.
Political_mama
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:41 pm | Permalink
Marion, who lives in Marion?
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There are at least a handful of people living in Marion and commuting to Boeing and Spirit to work.
Interesting comments from a few reactionaries.
Guess they never learned to be calm under pressure. :)
KNSS calls itself Wichita’s source for news.
The story broke more than 90 minutes ago. They just reported it.
Blade,
First off, Eric Rudolf got an awful lot of moral and financial support from within the anti-abortion movement.
Secondly, the rabid anti’s have demonized Dr. Tiller for so long and so relentlessly that his murder this morning was inevitable. They found and cultured the crazy they needed to kill him, and sent him off to do their dirty work, all in the name of Jesus. Just like they did with Shannon, like they did with Rudolf, like they did with Hill, they will abandon him publicly while toasting to his honor privately, and use his name to raise more money.
The Right Owns This One?
All da Hate Speech Caused this?
If that’s true, a number of Da Libs here would be guilty every time a Conservative is murdered.
Guilt by association – Sure. Whatever you feel helps incite riots for your cause, is justified in your own tiny minds.
Regular posted May 31, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Interesting comments from a few reactionaries.
Guess they never learned to be calm under pressure. :)
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Uh-huh. . .
HLP posted May 31, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Tiller was a scourge on the earth. I think he was a murderer and I do not mourn his passing.
Really that was radical? It was the simplest statement and you know it will happen. This act will be used by those who have blinding hatred on the Pro-choice side and will use it to condemn those who are pro-life.
Since often it is a “Christian” group or so they claim that it is God’s law and their faith that inspires their actions. It is the Christian faith that will be damned not the person who committed the killing.
Neither the Pro-life movement or the Christian faith were the ones that wanted this or agree with it.
This was the act of a lone and mentally ill person not either the faith or the movement that caused this.
He may be acting in what he saw as a duty to either the movement or his faith. But he was not and is excusing his self righteous act in his own mind. If he does claim the act was in the name of his faith or the Pro-life movement he is only tarnishing and belittling both. he has not save one baby’s life and has only made his motivation to be senseless and damnable. Sadly those who also share a faith and movement will be sharing that senselessness and damnable action.
It is not just or right but as I said right in such an emotional issue is not a part of the thought process.
OKO you seem to be having a reading problem, you come here expecting to see comments as being a
either/or. You assume that because in the past I have not shared the same opinion on a issue.
Then forever more all my opinions will be against the CONs side of an issue. Nothing I said was a damnation of Christianity or Pro-life it was a statement that some others will not separate the action.
From the pro-life movement and /or Christianity. If you set your opinion that everyone else is against you then it does not matter what anyone said. It will always be bad and against you even simply saying hello.
From what I understand they’re just looking for the vehicle. That doesn’t mean he’s guilty…fortunately for the person who killed Tiller, I still believe in justice, and that he is presumed innocent.
A source I trust relays that the vehicle has a KSU vanity tag on the front.
There’s only 879 males in Marion, KS.
Kill em all, and you’re bound to get the right one, eventually.
In any case, they all be guilty if they are Conservative, White, Male, Christian types.
Oh, now hate and kill all KSU fans!
Blog Em to Death!
Political_mama
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:54 pm | Permalink
From what I understand they’re just looking for the vehicle. That doesn’t mean he’s guilty…
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Really?
Amazing!
Candlelight vigil for Tiller 8pm old town square wichita.
Hate speech?
LOL!
And just where has the ‘blizzard of hate speech’ originated from this morning, XXX?
Tell me, XXX, I’m heartbroken by some of the remarks here this morning. . . do you think I have a weak hand shake?
You’ve seen JR, do you think he could fire your hand cannon with one hand? I was merely trying not to hurt him. He seems a little fragile to me.
I didn’t break MY shoulder falling off a hay bale there pops.
Regular
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:48 pm | Permalink
Interesting comments from a few reactionaries.
Guess they never learned to be calm under pressure. :)
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Just don’t put up the Stars & Stripes today, that will really pour it on and push em right over the edge.
HLP
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:00 pm | Permalink
Hate speech?
LOL!
And just where has the ‘blizzard of hate speech’ originated from this morning, XXX?
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Oh, and don’t forget the repeated question as to where your son is today…..
Doesn’t take much of a stretch to guess that this was done by some radical fundamentalist Republican. Hate speech has consequences as we see this morning. There has been a blizzard of hate speech from the right directed at Tiller, including most of the conservative bloggers on these boards. -XXX
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Guess? Guess?!! And what is a radical fundamentalist Republican? Good grief XXX.
The head of our deacon board made the announcement as we were dismissing. It was a sad shock. He then led us in prayer for the Tiller family and for the members of his church, decrying the use of violence. Especially the unconscionable act of performing this heinous act in a church of God.
Channel 10 is now “breaking” the story.
Thank you Libs for this fine display of Mob Mentality.
It will serve as a nice case study of sub-human behavior and help advance research to understand and treat your condition.
CNN broke it before Channel 10? Wow, that’s just sad.
Tiller’s killing should be called what it is:
an act of TERRORISM.
This is more of the same from the right-wing hate-mongers who spew vitriol at their political enemies (sample, Ann Coulter’s book entitled simply Treason) 24-7 and are then pretend to shocked that their reader-listeners would act upon the enemies list that they have created.
You can’t have an act of terror like this without having plenty of hate speech first.
KNSS is re running Rush Limbaugh.
Unbelievable.
It’s from Merrian and not Marion.
Obviously, from the facts that we know, this man was a disgruntled alumni of KSU. His car was registered in Merriam, Kansas a hotbed of liberal activism.
A pox on all liberals from Merriam and a special pox on all the graduates of the liberal colleges of Kansas!
Ok so that goes back to the Kansans for Life people.
KAKE’s coverage is actually the best I’ve seen.
http://www.policeone.com/active-shooter/articles/1796276-Tenn-church-shooter-hoped-attack-would-spur-more-violence/
Adkisson walked into the church, pulled a sawed-off shotgun from a guitar case and fired into a congregation of about 230 people watching a children’s musical performance.
Adkisson told police during an hour-long interrogation three hours after the July 27 shooting that he was ready to take his anger out on what he called “an ultra-liberal” church that “never met a pervert they just didn’t embrace.”
“They just glory (in) these weirdos and sickos and homos,” he said in an interview recorded by investigators.
Adkisson left a four-page suicide note in his SUV in the church parking lot. In it, he described the attack as “a hate crime,” “a political protest” and “a symbolic killing.”
He railed against extending constitutional rights to terrorists at Guantanamo Bay, about the news media being “the propaganda wing of the Democrat Party,” and how he would like to kill every major Democrat in Congress. But he said they were inaccessible and decided to go after “the foot soldiers, the (expletive) liberals that vote in these traitorous people.”
Adkisson concluded, “I’d like to encourage other like-minded people to do what I’ve done. If life ain’t worth living anymore don’t just kill yourself. Do something for your country before you go. Go kill liberals.”
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I rest my case.
“outlander” –
It’s a shame the former president of the Christ Lutheran Church congregation couldn’t lead everyone in a sad prayer this morning.
Chances are, according to CON-think, this was a random mugging gone bad and if Dr. Tiller had just been carrying a handgun he’d be alive today.
writerdog
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:10 pm | Permalink
Those that commit such acts as the bombings and killings do not see that by doing so they are causing the damning of their cause and their faith.
Claiming to be doing so in the defense of moral high ground and also taking the name of the Lord thy God in vain so they are doing it in the name of the Lord. There will be shame to be had, for even at the outcry there will be deep inside many who will say he had it coming.
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Writer you might think you are ‘open minded’ in what you wrote but you sat in judgement on the entire pro-life movement with you condemnation of this one person.
We don’t all walk in lockstep. I hate no one. I felt that Tiller was wrong in what he did but knew I wasn’t his judge and he would be judged just as I will be.
Read what you actually wrote not what you wanted your words to say.
If Rush Limbaugh were killed today who would be quilty. The person who killed him or the democrat party who said they wanted him dead?
Who wants to meet with me at the vigil?
From one of the anti-abortion sites this morning:
A great day for the unborn children scheduled to be murdered by Babykilling Abortionist George Tiller.
George Tiller reaped what he sowed and now has been cast alive into everlasting torment and fire for the innocent blood he has shed.
Psalm 55:15 Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.
I pray the person who performed this deed is never known or apprehended.
“Tiller’s killing should be called what it is:
an act of TERRORISM.
This is more of the same from the right-wing hate-mongers who spew vitriol at their political enemies (sample, Ann Coulter’s book entitled simply Treason) 24-7 and are then pretend to shocked that their reader-listeners would act upon the enemies list that they have created.
You can’t have an act of terror like this without having plenty of hate speech first.”
Maybe you should look behind you
What’s appropriate is outrage.
What’s really “appropriate” would be to open fire on advocates of illegal abortion and some bombings of their homes, offices and churches. But we “libruhls” aren’t always “appropriate.”
Yeah, I really want revenge. I want retribution. I want to respond in kind. ”
“It seems the “culture war” just went hot.
And that is fine with me.”
“The fundamentalist Christian community is the enemy of freedom loving Americans. They can’t be treated as fellow Americans with an unusual point of view.
They must be treated as enemies.”
”
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Don’t interview Kansans for Life. What a bunch of freaks.
Okobserver-
WriterDog is right. Read it a little closer
Whoever wrote that should be found. They’re very dangerous.
Cud-chewer says_
“It seems the “culture war” just went hot.
And that is fine with me.”
Gonna do some violence dude?
okobserver
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:15 pm | Permalink
If Rush Limbaugh were killed today who would be quilty. The person who killed him or the democrat party who said they wanted him dead?
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The Democrat Party said that they wanted Rush Limbaugh dead?
You have a link to that?
I’m sure a pronouncement from the Democrat Party expressing such wishes regarding a prominent radio-show host would have been big news.
okobserver
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:15 pm | Permalink
If Rush Limbaugh were killed today who would be quilty. The person who killed him or the democrat party who said they wanted him dead?
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Why all the Liberal Democrats would be guilty of course.
But they would be PROUD of it.
Liberals don’t ask for the death of people.
Daniel
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:20 pm | Permalink
okobserver
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:15 pm | Permalink
If Rush Limbaugh were killed today who would be quilty. The person who killed him or the democrat party who said they wanted him dead?
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The Democrat Party said that they wanted Rush Limbaugh dead?
You have a link to that?
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Hate Speech from the Left:
http://killrushlimbaugh.com/
Wednesday, June 13, 2007
Florida Democrats: Kill Rush Limbaugh Fans?
This sounds like a joke, but sadly it’s not much of an exaggeration, if it can be called an exaggeration at all.
Several members of the all-Democrat Broward County Commission are considering no longer airing hurricane warnings on one of the area’s most popular radio stations, because — are you ready? — the station airs Rush Limbaugh’s show.
Now, in a world where common sense prevails, one would think airing emergency warnings on a station with as many listeners as Rush has would be ideal, enabling as many local residents as possible to receive critical information during an emergency.
The Broward County Commissioner said of Rush and other conservative programs, “They have every right to speak, but we don’t have to do business with them.”
Since when is saving your constituents’ lives “business”?
http://laurasmiscmusings.blogspot.com/2007/06/florida-democrats-kill-rush-limbaugh.html
The Phill Kline witch-hunt helped stoke the terrorism too . . .
Hmmm, May 31, anniversary of the arrest of Eric Rudolph, the Olympic Park bomber.
From Wiki: Rudolph declared that his bombings were part of a guerrilla campaign against abortion and “the homosexual agenda.” He spent years on the FBI Ten Most Wanted Fugitives until he was caught in 2003.
Rudolph has called himself a Roman Catholic in “the war to end this holocaust”
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You CONs must be as proud as when Timothy McVey blew up the Federal Building in Ok City.
While condemning the act, neither conservatives nor anti-abortion groups should accept blame for this act. Speaking the truth is not hate speech.
I, for one, am not surprised that this man of sanitized violence met a violent end.
Kill Rush Limbaugh
6
03
2009
The story below is just the product of a liberal moron speaking to another liberal moron, that’s to be expected. However, it does not take away any of the seriousness of what was said.
I find it extremely troubling for two reasons. One, Larry King let this go un-challenged. Two, this may be all that’s needed for some nut-case on the left to think this gives them some sort of moral hunting license to try and kill Rush.
And here I thought liberals had ‘hate’ laws for just this very thing.
http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/2009/03/06/kill-rush-limbaugh/
JimJohnson,
She said the Democrat Party wanted him dead and you repeated the lie.
Show some proof.
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Daniel by laughing and repeating ad nauseum the jokes about his kidneys failing they were certainly advocating his death don’t you think. Well as much so as all conservatives pulled the trigger to kill Tiller.
Writer if I read what you wrote wrong then you have my sincere apologies. It looked like you were climbing on the blame train that is running through here.
Whoever pulled that trigger did so of his own violition. No organization sent him there. No church or faith backed him at least to this point we have no evidence of any of this.
Tragic end and there will still be an ongoing prolife movement I think.
“You CONs must be as proud as when Timothy McVey blew up the Federal Building in Ok City.
Wow. More hate speech.
P-Mom,
“Who wants to meet with me at the vigil?”
I’ll be there.
No liberal created that website, I’d not be surprised if it were limbaugh supporters who created that.
The KSN person is an idiot. She wondered why the interview with Mahoney he said he didn’t want overreaction…well yeah he’s afraid the RICO law that protected abortion clinics from protesters was overturned under Bush.
And you wonder why we fought for that.
It’s ironic.
I JUST found out the other day that my paternal grandmother died as the result of an illegal abortion.
That was more than 75 years ago. She was 24.
She left a son, my dad, age 4.
Her sister is 91 now and still very much alive. It is likely I would have got to know my grandmother if abortion had been legal all those years ago.
With that, and with this?
Now it’s personal. Though I will never be in need of an abortion, women MUST continue to have the right to choose.
JimJohnson,
I see a lot of flailing on your part but not any proof of the lie the okobserver posted and that you saw fit to repeat.
Look for me Jed. Email me o_serenity_now@yahoo.com
I’ll be there too.
When and where?
I’ve shown you as much proof as Capn.
Capn claims Conservatives were happy about Tim McVey – where’s the proof?
Capn claims that hate speech from one church shooter caused another murder – Tiller.
You Libs are going out of your minds to blame all Conservatives for everything bad on the planet.
Hate much?
okobserver
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:20 pm | Permalink
And to my knowledge we don’t know anything about him, his religion, or his party affiliation do we?
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I guess Okie has a short memory..
It is the same church where the armed radicals tried to take over the service… And I remember how so many CONS defended those idiots as well…
And today is PENTECOST Sunday as well… Supposed to be a day of profound celebration… the birthday of the Church… And now some GOON turns it into a day of profound mourning… So much for the rule of l, huh?aw
May the peace of God, that passes understanding, keep our hearts and minds (+)
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Maggot.. check your files.. you probably have the assassin’s photo on file.
Daniel I said that intentionally to show the ignorance of any who would believe that the actions of one person condemned the entire conservative party and all people of faith as it has been presented here today.
Sykes said it in front of the prez and he didn’t repudiate it therefore he must agree that Limbaugh should die? Right. And as the head of the democrat party that would make it the goal of the democrat party. Right?
The murder of George Tiller only proves the Obama administration right in that the right wing has become a haven for terrorists.
This will provide the perfect cover for investigating right wingnuts including many of the WACK jobs on this blog.
Lefties…report Boxlock, Regular, HLP, Nathaniel, okobserver, et al to the local and national authorities for investigation.
These right wing fruit cakes have provided aid and comfort to these terrorists for far too long.
I don’t blame all of the cons. But I do blame those who have inflamed the hate speech against him.
Max–
I’m not responding to you or your ilk today.
I’m in shock and mourning.
Blaming your average pro-lifer (the vast majority of that 51% of Americans)for this senseless act is like blaming all pro-same sex marriage folks for all the AIDS deaths.
okobserver
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:27 pm | Permalink
Daniel by laughing and repeating ad nauseum the jokes about his kidneys failing they were certainly advocating his death don’t you think. Well as much so as all conservatives pulled the trigger to kill Tiller.
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You posted that the Democrat Party said they wanted Rush Limbaugh dead and can’t offer any proof to back up your lie.
Just admit that your were wrong. It’s not that hard.
Outie,
“While condemning the act, neither conservatives nor anti-abortion groups should accept blame for this act.”
Hey, some of them are already praising the murder of Dr. Tiller and hoping his killer is never caught. They may not want the blame, but some at least sure want the credit.
Chas I didn’t know who he was let alone what church he went to. Where did you get your information about what church he went to?
The man who murdered Tiller is nothing but a coward. If he did it for professed religious reasons, he would have dropped the gun and waited for the police. Instead, he ran, like the coward he is. What he did amounts to first degree murder.
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JimJohnson
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:31 pm | Permalink
I’ve shown you as much proof as Capn.
Capn claims Conservatives were happy about Tim McVey – where’s the proof?
Capn claims that hate speech from one church shooter caused another murder – Tiller.
You Libs are going out of your minds to blame all Conservatives for everything bad on the planet.
Hate much?
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Deflect! Deflect! Deflect!
You are a pathetic liar.
JMWalker
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:36 pm | Permalink
The man who murdered Tiller is nothing but a coward. If he did it for professed religious reasons, he would have dropped the gun and waited for the police. Instead, he ran, like the coward he is. What he did amounts to first degree murder”
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
Everyone knew where Tiller went to church. That was common knowledge thanks to the predators who wanted to hurt anyone around him too.
Not surprising how WE Blog’s CONs are rushing to defend the assassin of Doctor Tiller.
Too bad it happened as he was going to Sunday church services. If it had happened on a weekday Rush Limbaugh could tell them what to say.
‘Til then, they’re foundering.
Distract, change-the-subject, blithely go on as if certain issues haven’t been addressed…
e.g. –
Hey, “HLP” –
How ’bout coming out from “…behind the blue glow of your monitor…” and living up to one or two of your commitments to meet up with me?
Don’t have the balls?
Bring The Boy with ya.
(Where was he this morning, btw?)
JimJohnson posted May 31, 2009 at 1:26 pm
The Assassination of Rush Limbaugh (Hardcover)
by Tom Layne (Author)
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Daniel I gave you my rational for why the dems want Limbaugh dead. Guess you didn’t see it. Now just admit you were wrong as well as the other libs who have condemned the entire conservative movement and all people of faith for this killing today.
My logic was much more based on fact than the left has done today.
Just admit you were wrong. It isn’t hard. And could you also help Chas out. He is really confused. He thinks he knows who killed Tiller and where he goes to church.
He surely wouldn’t think anyone that follows the news in Wichita wouldn’t know what church Tiller attended.
Political_mama
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:16 pm | Permalink
Who wants to meet with me at the vigil?
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Time and place, PMama??
Political_mama
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:38 pm | Permalink
Everyone knew where Tiller went to church. That was common knowledge thanks to the predators who wanted to hurt anyone around him too.
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From the coverage I have seen it said the Doctor was ushering today and talking with the shooter in the lobby of the church. I’m guessing the fact that Tiller was serving as an usher today, the murderer knew of an opportunity to catch him alone and also provide less of a chance of his identification. It may indicate he was stalked for quite some time.
Simply sad.
Pmom only Chas was confused about where Tiller went to church. It is common knowledge in Wichita and has been for years.
I am aware of early mentions about a vigil this evening in old town square. I cannot confirm at this time.
Anyone wanting to meet me at the vigil, email me at o_serenity_now@yahoo.com
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okobserver
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:32 pm | Permalink
Sykes said it in front of the prez and he didn’t repudiate it therefore he must agree that Limbaugh should die? Right. And as the head of the democrat party that would make it the goal of the democrat party. Right?
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You’re really resorting to some extreme mental gymnastics there to rationalize your lie….
be sure not to sprain your brain!
JM I agree with you on this killing and what should happen to the shooter. No man can take justice on himself. We are a nation of laws and have to remain so or we will become a third world country like Mexico where people are afraid to walk in public.
Go ahead, Jimbo, preach the gospel of not painting the political opposition with a broad brush and insults…. No one is better suited to encourage civil debate that you..
Monkeyhawk
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:39 pm | Permalink
Not surprising how WE Blog’s CONs are rushing to defend the assassin of Doctor Tiller.
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Not surprisingly you either can’t read or are spread your own lies, which puts you in the same group as the shooter.
DAMN Okie, you are really, really dense!!! I said it is the same Church where the two armed radicals interrupted and tried to take over their Worship Service earlier….
Now, you want to call me a liar?? Or do you want to post an apology??
I know members of that congregation… I am sure the entire membership is devastated by this act of huge moronic proportions.
Daniel why the personal attacks on me today? You are stretching on several points. Challenge Capn on some of the statements he made. Are you tough enough to do that or do you just challenge conservatives?
You are getting boring.
I wonder what Spirit One church will put on its marquee today?
It is LONG past time that their tax exempt status was revoked.
One of the aforementioned bloggers threatened my life last year and Nathaniel has used gun threats in the past.
The right wing nut cases on this blog should go to jail for aiding terrorist traitors.
Chas
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:31 pm | Permalink
okobserver
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:20 pm | Permalink
And to my knowledge we don’t know anything about him, his religion, or his party affiliation do we?
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I guess Okie has a short memory..
It is the same church where the armed radicals tried to take over the service… And I remember how so many CONS defended those idiots as well…
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Chas my statement was obviously about the shooter. Man you had better calm down. You are reaching stroke range.
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“Now, you want to call me a liar?? Or do you want to post an apology??
I know members of that congregation… I am sure the entire membership is devastated by this act of huge moronic proportions.”
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It doesn’t have to be a long apology. A simple ‘I’m sorry’ will work.
Anybody notice how most of the Spamming stopped this morning??
Just saying….
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okobserver
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:47 pm | Permalink
Daniel why the personal attacks on me today? You are stretching on several points. Challenge Capn on some of the statements he made. Are you tough enough to do that or do you just challenge conservatives?
You are getting boring.
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Calling you out on your ridiculous lie constitutes an attack? What points have I been stretching on? Show me just one.
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HLP
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:00 pm | Permalink
“Tell me, XXX, I’m heartbroken by some of the remarks here this morning. . . do you think I have a weak hand shake?”
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Nope. I’ve shook your hand many times and expect to many more. I judge a man by his handshake. You pass with flying colors.
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“You’ve seen JR, do you think he could fire your hand cannon with one hand?”
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Now that would be something to see, wouldn’t it? The mental image of that is just too much.
The car’s been pulled over in Gardner, KS.
Or, at least, a car “matching the description” of the car driven by the shooter has been pulled over.
Daniel no answer on challenging Capn? I will dialogue with you on a serious discussions but this track you are one is trolling as Agnatha said yesterday and I chose not to play anymore.
“Now that would be something to see, wouldn’t it? ”
I don’t think you need to worry about seeing that or me.
Yeah, I’m sure.
Chas realizing how stupid Daniel sounds I will release you from that need for an apology realizing you posted without reading what had previously been posted.
I share your outrage about the shooting. This is never the solution.
“Those that commit such acts as the bombings and killings do not see that by doing so they are causing the damning of their cause and their faith. “
When someone does something and calls it in the name of a faith or a movement they are not speaking for the entire faith or movement. Are they? But that is not seen by those outside the faith or movement. We see that with Al-Qaeda and the Moslem faith, they acted and said it was in defense of their faith. But the reality is they did not but the level of hatred for anyone that is Moslem grew and soon just their faith was the only reason for hating them. Likewise when associated with right or wrong with a faith or a movement.
The acts become thought of as the whole of the stated reasons.
“Claiming to be doing so in the defense of moral high ground and also taking the name of the Lord thy God in vain so they are doing it in the name of the Lord. There will be shame to be had, for even at the outcry there will be deep inside many who will say he had it coming“.
And are you disagreeing that some not all but some within the more radical elements of the Pro-life movement will not see it that way? I notice that it was brought up if Rush had been killed the accusation is that many on the left will not morn his killing. That too is a true and factual point, such is the way of a blinding hatred. Would the death of Rush Limbaugh or the death of Tiller stop the issues? NO, but there would be some who would see it as a step toward stopping the issues. All the suspect did this morning was take a human life nothing more. He was not defending babies or stopping abortion, he was not acting in the Christian faith or that of being Pro-life. Nothing has changed except for one more person is not alive and now the suspect is a wanted man who has sacrificed his freedom and family for nothing.
okobserver
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:20 pm | Permalink
And to my knowledge we don’t know anything about him, his religion, or his party affiliation do we?
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Why would I apologize?? This post isnt exactly clear as to who you are talking about…
BUT… I guess I should have figured out you really really want this shooter to be a liberal and a democrat…. :-))
I do hope that none of the CONS show up at the Vigil later on tonight… and start spewing their typical Pro-life vitriol…
That could get very ugly…
KAKE invited everyone on both sides…who the hail does that? I also love how AP put their spin on the anti-choice side like John Hanna always does.
Chas I will say you are upset and not rational. Tiller was shot at his church that is all over the news. He was a huge donor to the democrat party. That has been all over the news.
How could any right thinking person make the assumption you did unless you just saw my name and jumped as Daniel is wont to do.
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Writer I agree with what you are saying and just think that people are jumping to lots of conclusions today. We know nothing about this shooter. I am sure we will before the day is out.
Then the slings and arrows will start to fly.
I can see this vigil tonight turning into a lib hate fest ala the Paul Wellstone memorial. I’ll bet if you check Tiller’s clinic right now you would see people gathered there praying just like they have for many years. Not prayers of thanks for the death of Tiller, but prayers for mercy and comfort for his family and friends.
Chas
Posted May 31, 2009 at 2:04 pm | Permalink
I do hope that none of the CONS show up at the Vigil later on tonight… and start spewing their typical Pro-life vitriol…
That could get very ugly…
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The FBI and KBI could start making more arrests IMMEDIATELY. C’mon anti Choice people…come out tonight if you dare.
Of course the cowardly pantywaisted anti choice crowd are in their homes skeered.
Thank goodness the suspect has been captured alive.
Chas
Posted May 31, 2009 at 2:04 pm | Permalink
I do hope that none of the CONS show up at the Vigil later on tonight… and start spewing their typical Pro-life vitriol…
That could get very ugly…
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Is this a threat Chas. How is that any different that the other side?
Gardner?? Hmmmm…. Doesnt Phil Kline live in Johnson County now??
Although I doubt Kline would drive a Ford Taurus…
This is not a time to be hateful. We are not going to sink to their level. This is the kind of hate that creates this and it has to stop.
“I judge a man by his handshake. ”
I do too.
But even though we have met outside, I didn’t have a weather vein handy. Blow in another direction.
satatom
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:34 pm | Permalink
“The murder of George Tiller only proves the Obama administration right in that the right wing has become a haven for terrorists.
This will provide the perfect cover for investigating right wingnuts including many of the WACK jobs on this blog.
Lefties…report Boxlock, Regular, HLP, Nathaniel, okobserver, et al to the local and national authorities for investigation.
These right wing fruit cakes have provided aid and comfort to these terrorists for far too long.”
What a complete fool and dimwit, ha!
This is a real study in the emotional, mental, and psychological breakdown of a bunch of dimwitted hysterical dimlibs.
This situation proves to me, beyond a doubt, the mental inferiority of at least the dimlibs on this blog.
Lets just sit back and watch them to continue to spew their hate, froth at the mouth and pee all over themselves.
This is a tragic situation, but really quite amusing to watch the dimlibs disintegrate before our very eyes.
“Convicted killer beheaded, put on display in Saudi Arabia” CNN
Concealed-carry liberals will be positioned throughout the vigil to protect the community…
No, it’s not a threat, you stupid woman… It is a statement of what can unfortunately happen at a confrontational event… And I hope it doesnt happen… CONS being present wont help the purpose of the Vigil at all…
What’s a weather vein?
Does it have a pulse?
OKO I except and found you a reasonable and thoughtful person. LOL just caught up at times in the blind partisan hatred as I have those on the other side.
Pmom thanks for being a voice of reason. I would hope that the vigil is uneventful and respectful of his family and the people closest to him.
I’d offer some flowers for the Vigil, but all of mine are early growers – have passed their time in the season.
And I do feel as I did the day we were struck by the terrorists in the 911 attacks. It isn’t on the same massive scale, no, but this was a man who represented freedom for American women.
I know cons will attack me for that statement, but just as you all kept saying that the WTC was a target, we also said that Tiller has been a target, and we tried to pass laws to protect him and cons always tried to poo poo the threat off as insignificant.
And now he has paid with his life.
DavidB… CC liberals would also not be productive to the purpose of the Vigil… Also could turn into a circular firing squad if something unfortunate should happen.. i’m sure the WPD can handle it quite well…
I would highly recommend to Dr. Tiller’s family, that they not publicize the time/place of the Funeral Service, but rather limit it to familyh, close friends, and a short list of specially elected individuals.
There can be a more public memorial event at a later date.
ChrisfromMacTown has obviously never been to a protest at Tiller’s Clinic (as I have).
The hate speech and violence was all on the CON side.
An anti once rammed her child’s stroller (complete with two kids) into my leg while I was standing on the sidewalk. I had to use an aikido move just to avoid injury and afterwards I said, “excuse me” very politely to her.
She was ready to spit in my face.
Gee . . . no posts from parkay today.
Go figure.
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Monkeyhawk
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:14 pm | Permalink
Chances are, according to CON-think, this was a random mugging gone bad and if Dr. Tiller had just been carrying a handgun he’d be alive today.
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I just heard poor ol’ Dr Tiller was murdered in the lobby of the Reformation Lutheran Church.
‘Chances are. . .’ according to bed wetting liberal-think,
If they’d only been posted Dr Tiller might be alive still.
I have yet to see anyone defending the killing, rather many are finding themselves defending their faith and movement. I too am defending my faith and I call on other Christians to be mindful and defend the faith as it should be defended. With love and understanding, this act will be seen as associated with the faith.
AS far away as it is from the true Christian faith, there will still be some who are not of the faith that will see it as done in the faith.
So far I see an agreement, this was a terrible act and one that was unwarranted. “Vengeance is mine said it the Lord!”. He will or will not seek any vengeance by himself, God does not need such minor creations to act on his accord. Who was this man that killed today? Was he claimed Christian? Was he claimed Pro-life? That remains to be seen, but he acted not in a Christian manner nor in support of life.
heehe.. it’s okay, we been trained and armed by ACORN!!!! With their billions of federal funds…
But these assassinations in churches in Iraq and America are getting tiresome……
Adkisson, the church shooter, concluded, “I’d like to encourage other like-minded people to do what I’ve done. If life ain’t worth living anymore don’t just kill yourself. Do something for your country before you go. Go kill liberals.”
Looks like somebody decided to take his advice.
Surprise, surprise.
Good morning, Capn.!
I’m heartened to see that you’ve recovered from your period of mourning enough to post again.
By claiming to be an aikidoka you risk taking the ‘Walter Mitty’ award away from BlueJay for the day.
Doing their best Claude Rains –
“We are shocked, shocked!, at this morning’s disturbing news that Mr. Tiller was gunned down,” said Operation Rescue in a statement…”
Real classy, CONs.
It’s Doctor Tiller. Not “Mr.” Tiller.
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okobserver
Posted May 31, 2009 at 1:57 pm | Permalink
Daniel no answer on challenging Capn? I will dialogue with you on a serious discussions but this track you are one is trolling as Agnatha said yesterday and I chose not to play anymore.
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kthxbai
Its true. The antis were pushing a woman with a cane off the curb at the protests, i’ve seen so much nasty behavior there its unreal.
Crappy, why would someone so full of hate and sarcasm show up at Tiller’s clinic except to incite conflict with those you disagree with? This is a sad day on many levels. There are a bunch of judges and elected officials who are wondering where their payola money is going to come from now.
I’d call this tacit approval:
Randall Terry:
“George Tiller was a mass-murderer. We grieve for him that he did not have time to properly prepare his soul to face God. I am more concerned that the Obama Administration will use Tiller’s killing to intimidate pro-lifers into surrendering our most effective rhetoric and actions. Abortion is still murder. And we still must call abortion by its proper name; murder.
Those men and women who slaughter the unborn are murderers according to the Law of God. We must continue to expose them in our communities and peacefully protest them at their offices and homes, and yes, even their churches.”
DavidB
Posted May 31, 2009 at 2:40 pm | Permalink
I’d call this tacit approval:
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Then you are an idiot. Just as irrational and hateful as anyone on the extreme right.
If anyone showed up at the clinic today, they would have been met by police, questioned, and sent on their way.
Don’t you people read the news?
Only God knows what’s in the hearts and minds of people. Right, Christians?
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Political_mama
Posted May 31, 2009 at 2:38 pm | Permalink
Its true. The antis were pushing a woman with a cane off the curb at the protests, i’ve seen so much nasty behavior there its unreal.
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You mean like BlueJay who has threatened several times to kick my cane out from under me?
…that kind of nasty behavior?
A newspaper blog discussion in another part of Kansas.
http://primebuzz.kcstar.com/?q=node/18662
And the statement from Dr. Tiller’s family:
“Today we mourn the loss of our husband, father and grandfather. Today’s event is an unspeakable tragedy for all of us and for George’s friends and patients. This is particularly heart wrenching because George was shot down in his house of worship, a place of peace.
We would like to express the family’s thanks for the many messages of sympathy from our friends and from all across the nation. We also want to thank the law enforcement officers who are investigating this crime.
Our loss is also a loss for the City of Wichita and women across America. George dedicated his life to providing women with high-quality heath care despite frequent threats and violence. We ask that he be remembered as a good husband, father and grandfather and a dedicated servant on behalf of the rights of women everywhere.”
This is a sad day in many regards. A man performing legal medical procedures is gunned down at church. Another man is going to lose his freedom. A wife has lost her husband, children have lost their father and grandchildren have lost their grandpa. Hundreds of church-goers were senselessly terrorized.
All of this because we cannot have a civil debate on the issue of abortion.
The divisiveness that marks what passes for debate in this country has to stop. The demonizing of those that disagree with you serves no purpose.
Perhaps all should take a moment and step back and examine their own heart and decide – “am I going to be part of the problem or part of the solution?”
Enough is enough – it is time we begin acting as Americans, united.
Well, just to respond to any implication of where I was at today…
I just got back from training with the Marines in Nebraska.
Good post WS. Well said. Thanks.
Dr Tiller’s wife was singing in the choir when her husband was murdered. I just can’t wrap my head around how sick his murderer must be.
This is a tragic day for all of America, for all concerned.
Again, all condolences to the Tiller family, and to friends.
WS Clark,
So…. how long till you forget this little speech of yours like the time you were acting all nice when you had a loss in the family?
You future actions will speak far more than any empty words you post here.
WS well said and hopefully taken to heart of those reading it.
“You future actions will speak far more than any empty words you post here.”
Whatever, Price, whatever.
WS Clark,
Seriously. From this day forward I will respond to you with no personal insults, vulgarity, or other random attacking comment other than disagreement on the issues.
Go ahead everyone. Let’s all remember this conversation and see just how long it takes WS Clark to go back to his old ways.
Hank–
Better leave using Japanese words to people who actually know something about the language.
What you wrote was aikido ?.
ka is the particle to form a question in Japanese — for example, the Japanese phrase they use on the Cox Ad, eigo o wakarimasu ka [Do I] know English?
Looks like the Walter Mitty is YOU pretending how to speak Nihon wa.
Aikido is very good for getting out of the way of a punch or knife thrust.
You don’t have to be master to be able to make use of some basic principles.
Same way with Tai Chi.
As much as I mourn the loss of Dr. Tiller, I can’t help but think of the last words of the union man Joe Hill; “Don’t mourn for me; organize!”
We need to gather our strength for the battles ahead, and so honor our memory of Dr. Tiller in the only truly meaningful way possible.
Word is they got the guy near KC. Law enforcement news conference at 4.
Nothing like killing somebody to express your pro-life convictions. Killing someone in a church no less. Amazing.
“Enough is enough – it is time we begin acting as Americans, united.”
That’s naive. There’s little difference between the zealot who did this and most of the cons that post here.
I just got back from the shop and heard someone dusted Tiller.
Who the fuq kills someone on their way to Church?
I didn’t care for what Tiller did, but if someone thinks that Tiller deserves to go to hell and decides to kill him, well they are going to find themselves in the same place.
StevenEDavis
Posted May 31, 2009 at 3:31 pm | Permalink
Nothing like killing somebody to express your pro-life convictions. Killing someone in a church no less. Amazing
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Oh? You heard some news?
Didn’t think the police had released any information on the Kansas City area suspect.
Thank you, HLP. You are are most kind, and a civil debater.
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BlueJay
Posted May 31, 2009 at 3:32 pm | Permalink
“Enough is enough – it is time we begin acting as Americans, united.”
That’s naive. There’s little difference between the zealot who did this and most of the cons that post here.
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That’s funny coming from one of the most hateful sons of b1tches on the BLOG!
Here was a man who helped untold numbers of women.
I know of two personally. One was a friend of mine involved in an abusive relationship. Had she been forced to carry the pregnancy to term, her abuser would have had his hooks in her for the rest of her life. Another was a lady friend of mine who was a victim of a Down syndrome pregnancy.
The man Randall’s only concern is how this affects him. And he adds,, keep going after your enemies in their churches….
Randall’s subtext is clear.. and we all know the punishment for mass-murder is execution.
Irresponsible, inflamatory speech.. legal, and despicable. And the currency of the realm today, I am ashamed to admit.
It’s Jihad in Amerika,
It’s Jihad in Amerika,
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You are a ret@rd.
Is anyone truly surprised by Tiller’s death?
Saddened…yes, frightened…yes, confused…yes, mad…yes. I’m a little sick to my stomach about it though strongly pro-life, in fact sick because I am pro-life.
But surprised….no.
I am not blaming Tiller, I presume he was gunned down illegally for his preforming legal procedures, at least from the information now available, but when people choose to do things that arouse such strong emotional feelings then strong emotional action can and do take result.
Like I was once told as a youth, “kid if you elect to play on the railroad bridge don’t blame the train for knocking you off.” This is not the same, but the point is….’is anyone really surprised’?
Thank you Anti. And you are a gentleman and a scholar.
What you wrote was aikido ?.
No, Capn. what I wrote was ‘aikidoka’. The suffix ‘ka’ in the Japanese language indicates an expert practitioner of a particular art. In this case I was satirically referring to you as an expert in aikido.
I’m sure that in only the advanced aikido classes do they teach the student how to avoid a mother with a baby buggy. I’m glad you had the advanced trining to avoid serious injury. (satire again for you satirically challenged)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aikidoka
“her abuser would have had his hooks in her for the rest of her life.”
So she killed an innocent and defenseless third person?
Hum….that makes sense, from a completely selfish standpoint I guess.
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DavidB
Posted May 31, 2009 at 3:38 pm | Permalink
Thank you, HLP. You are are most kind, and a civil debater.
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You’re welcome!
Merely following your restrained and thoughtful example, DavidB.
“innocent and defenseless”
Interesting choice of words.
Dr Tiller was innocent and defenseless this morning.
He was guilty of no crime under the law and all he was doing was going to church.
“So she killed an innocent and defenseless third person?”
She terminated a pregnancy at about 3 months. I paid for it.
If a group spends a decade dehumanizing someone, it is not a surprise that some fellow-traveler zealot decides to act to accomplish the group’s goal. That goal, of course, was to put Dr. Tiller out of business.
Mission Accomplished.
Now they all step away… “He’s not one of ours.” We shall see…
Look at Parkay’s daily ranting cut and pastes… Mr Obama is “Obamanation” and a baby-hater liberal (tell that to his little girls).
Irresponsible rhetoric has effects. The postings of many on this blog often turn my stomach. The personal insults, not so much… I take them as high praise, considering the sources….
BlueJay
Posted May 31, 2009 at 3:56 pm | Permalink
“innocent and defenseless”
Interesting choice of words.
Dr Tiller was innocent and defenseless this morning.
He was guilty of no crime under the law and all he was doing was going to church.
BlueJay
Posted May 31, 2009 at 3:59 pm | Permalink
“So she killed an innocent and defenseless third person?”
She terminated a pregnancy at about 3 months. I paid for it.
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Good posts Jr. You very accurately showed that both Dr Tiller and this innocent child did not deserve to die.
Oh, my God!
Where is God? Where is He – in the midst of this madness!
My heart is breaking…..
Late in the evening of September 20, 2005, I sat at the computer and composed a heartfelt e-mail to a regular post-er of this Blog.
When someone kindly makes it possible for you to apologize to someone, one regards it rather powerfully. “If I never do anything else in my life….” I remember saying to this gentleman.
I meant it then – and I mean it now.
Oh, my God. My heart is also full for Dr. Tiller’s loved ones and employees – one of whom who has had more sorrow and suffering in her own life than most of us can comprehend.
Oh, my God – I am desolate.
The sword of sorrow has pierced my heart today.
HOW IN THE HELL DID THIS HAPPEN?????????
I do not wish to blame anyone but the shooter (and those aiding and abetting him), but….
OH MY GOD! I just found out the killing happened at the doctor’s CHURCH!!! What kind of world do we live in????
I cannot help but close with a personal note: When I met Dr. Tiller three and one half years ago, he was kind…..sensitive……gentle…..and forgiving.
I also have a plea to this Blog’s monitors: Castrate the posts of those who would celebrate this abominable crime. Do it now.
Thank you.
WPD’s Tom Stolz just said at a news conference that WPD/FBI is looking at web connections in the Tiller murder “in the interest of public safety”.
The resident right wing WEB lunatics should be worried.
Their time is gonna come….
There will be a candlelight vigil for Dr. Tiller this evening, details are below. As information regarding the service for Dr. Tiller becomes available, we be sure to let you know.
Date:
Sunday, May 31, 2009
Time:
8:00pm – 11:00pm
Location:
Old Town Plaza, in front of the Old Town Warren
City/Town:
Wichita, KS
Please gather at Old Town Square at 8pm to remember Dr. George Tiller and show support to his friends and family. Although it may not yet be completely dark at 8pm, please bring a candle.
Signs are optional – if you want to bring one, then go for it. But we will not be shouting or chanting or marching tonight. We’ll be respectfully gathering in Dr. Tiller’s memory.
ALSO: If you do bring a sign, be sure to steer clear of ANYTHING that has to do with pro life/choice. This event has no political agenda. Please keep your opinions on abortion at bay for the night.
The event details list this event as lasting until 11pm, but it most likely will not. Please show up as closely to 8pm as you can, and we’ll see what happens from there.
The Wichita Police Department have been notified of our gathering, so they’ll have an eye on us (to keep us safe), just in case there are any crazies out there who don’t approve of our event. Please, please feel free to bring family, children, friends… anyone, really.
It has also just been brought to my attention that the parking garage next to the Warren may be closed tonight due to construction. Please keep this in mind when you are parking!!! Try to carpool as much as possible.
What in the hell is a victim of a Down Syndrome pregnancy?
I can only hope this means the woman was raped and impregnated by an individual with down syndrome.
Any posts from parkay? Wonder if he lives in Merriam?
There’s blood on more hands than the shooters on this one. And, I’m not talking about Tiller’s. Bet Kasserbaum is glad she’s in Washington and not Ks.
Ks. sure doesn’t get much good natl. attention.
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DavidB
Posted May 31, 2009 at 3:51 pm | Permalink
Thank you Anti. And you are a gentleman and a scholar.
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Yes, I am well aware of that fact, but thank you for the acknowledgment.
Oh yes… what is this now, 3 abortion doctors killed in America since Roe V Wade?
The way you liberals breath panic and fear about the Pro-Life side, the facts do not support it.
satatom
Posted May 31, 2009 at 4:14 pm | Permalink
WPD’s Tom Stolz just said at a news conference that WPD/FBI is looking at web connections in the Tiller murder “in the interest of public safety”.
The resident right wing WEB lunatics should be worried.
Their time is gonna come
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Look, yet another threat from a leftist on people who had nothing to do with this particular case.
In the U.S., violence directed toward abortion providers has killed at least 7 people, including 3 doctors, 2 clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort.[4]
March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of the year before. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Dr. Gunn’s murder and was sentenced to life in prison.
June 29, 1994: Dr. John Britton and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot to death outside of another facility in Pensacola. Rev. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings, received a death sentence, and was executed September 3, 2003.
December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in two clinic attacks in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi, who prior to his arrest was distributing pamphlets from Human Life International,[5] was arrested and confessed to the killings. He committed suicide in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings.
January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph, who was also responsible for the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, was charged with the crime and received two life sentences as a result.
October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot to death at his home in Amherst, New York. His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Dr. Slepian’s murder after finally being apprehended in France in 2001.
May 31, 2009: Dr. George Tiller was shot and killed as he was entering his church in Wichita, KS. [6]
Wikipedia
But no let up in the extreme rhetoric…
Nathaniel
Posted May 31, 2009 at 4:38 pm | Permalink
Oh yes… what is this now, 3 abortion doctors killed in America since Roe V Wade?
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So, would you characterize that as 3 too many or a good start?
The only hate speech I have seen here on WEBlog comes from the Left…This is one of those threads that shows this.
Regular,
’satatom’ is a total idiot, and he lies, “web connections in the Tiller murder” my butt.
Pay no attention to him any more than as if he is a piece of dog sh*t you step in and wipe off in the grass.
Boxlock, apparently you missed the news conference?
It was stated that websites of both pro-life and pro-choice groups were to be monitored.
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Boxlock20
Posted May 31, 2009 at 4:43 pm | Permalink
Regular,
’satatom’ is a total idiot, and he lies, “web connections in the Tiller murder” my butt.
Pay no attention to him any more than as if he is a piece of dog sh*t you step in and wipe off in the grass.
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I think I should call the Wichita Police Department and state that some bloggers are making threats to people who blog here.
I think they should send out patrols to their houses before it gets out of hand.
DavidB,
Thank you for supporting my statement.
Now why do you liberals act like there are Pro-Life people out killing abortion doctors left and right?
I would almost be willing to bet that more abortion doctors have died in car crashes than have been killed by a Pro-Life person.
Driving to work is more dangerous than Pro-Life people for an abortion doctor.
According to the National Abortion Federation, Tiller was the eighth U.S. abortion provider murdered since 1977, and 17 others had been targeted with attempted murder.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_tiller_reaction
Predestined
Posted May 31, 2009 at 4:49 pm | Permalink
According to the National Abortion Federation, Tiller was the eighth U.S. abortion provider murdered since 1977,
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And the Libtards think that is Jihad….Damn.
“a piece of dog sh*t you step in and wipe off in the grass.”
“The only hate speech I have seen here on WEBlog comes from the Left” Right…
Right.. remember what I say about dehumanizing the political opposition??
It makes it much easier to murder them, if they are not fully human…
LOL.. never mind….
Predestined,
Thank you for the information, I will try and check it out, I believe there is a new conference on KSN at 5:00pm.
The only thing anyone would find on this blog remotely resembling threats is from the pro-abortion, pro-death crowd though. Just look at the posts and that is simply because they are frustrated and impotent to do anything.
I’ve seen absolutely none from any so called pro-life folks, that’s contradictory in itself.
Oh my, well, the “National ABORTION Federation” says that 8 abortion doctors have been killed.
I suppose you have a link to the names of those 8 abortion doctors killed AND how it was related to someone killing them for their profession?
The Eagle won’t allow comments on the Tiller stuff. I am too classy to put my thoughts on his memory page. However, George, see ya wouldn’t want to be ya.
Hell just got a new member.
Predestined,
If actual, law enforcement folks are forced to monitor this blog those poor souls will think they have somehow fallen into Alice in Wonderlands hole and are caught in a distorted world of mentally ill crack pots.
I think being made to do so for very long would entitle them to workman’s comp.
What’s funny Box, is that only ones here involved with the abortion clinic as first hand supporters are all on the left and active participants. They are known trouble makers – law enforcement knows them.
I don’t know parkay and I imagine he is not much liked by the left, but he’s the only one this blog that could be considered that has had anything to do with abortion clinic protests and etc.
The rest of us are just recipients of the hate speech from the leftists who actively participant in abortion clinic drama.
Freedom of speech until a leftist says otherwise – yeah…
Reg,
I’ve seen hateful and disgusting speech from both sides here. Yes, some from you, especially the disgusting kind.
BlueJay, the pathological liar bleets,
“She terminated a pregnancy at about 3 months. I paid for it.”
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You’re safe, Capn. Let the record show that BlueJay has desperately grabbed the ‘Walter Mitty’ trophy away from your aikido trained fingers with that whopper!
By the way, in the word aikidoka, ‘ka’ is a suffix, not a particle.
jjj
Posted May 31, 2009 at 4:57 pm | Permalink
The Eagle won’t allow comments on the Tiller stuff. I am too classy to put my thoughts on his memory page. However, George, see ya wouldn’t want to be ya.
Hell just got a new member.
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There’s your hate speech, Regular. It didn’t come from the Left.
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Predestined
Posted May 31, 2009 at 5:17 pm | Permalink
jjj
Posted May 31, 2009 at 4:57 pm | Permalink
The Eagle won’t allow comments on the Tiller stuff. I am too classy to put my thoughts on his memory page. However, George, see ya wouldn’t want to be ya.
Hell just got a new member.
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There’s your hate speech, Regular. It didn’t come from the Left.
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Don’t know him, sorry.
But a nice try at an attempt to try and deny the hate filled leftists on this blog. You buddies are certified kooks.
Nice try at deflection, Reg.
Seems some of your buddies are certified kooks, too.
C’mon it took 7 hours for a troll (may very well be a left plant) for anything remotely supporting the death of Dr. Tiller.
I don’t think I can count the insults and vailed threats to the pro-life group.
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Predestined
Posted May 31, 2009 at 5:22 pm | Permalink
Nice try at deflection, Reg.
Seems some of your buddies are certified kooks, too.
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As a writer you should recognize the trouble today was all started by those on the left. They started attacking anyone on the right.
You can’t deny it – it’s there in black and white.
To defend the indefensible is just dumb.
I don’t have a bill of sale Hank. But it is absolutely true.
I’m not sorry if it irks you.
Sickening…not just the murder, but the way some people here..like mh and capn, are dancing with glee, jumping all over themselves as they use this as “proof” that a political party is responsible for a senseless death.
Despicable.
After the 9-11 attacks, a lot of folks were calling on American Muslims and moderate Muslims to condemn the attacks.
Their line was essentially “control your own.”
Now in the wake of the 8th abortion doctor to have been killed, we find the right-wing CONs taking absolutely no responsibility for the Tiller’s killer.
The CONs continue to support the killer’s ends, while paying lip service against the means.
You hypocritical pit of vipers!
When has someone on the left ever killed someone on the right for their political beliefs? When has a Terry Fox or Jerry Falwell ever get gunned down with malice aforethought?
Yet the Right wing continues to claim, bizarrely, that the “left is the real attackers.”
Well, that explains why the CONs are CONs.
Dumb.
Really dumb.
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BlueJay
Posted May 31, 2009 at 5:27 pm | Permalink
I don’t have a bill of sale Hank. But it is absolutely true.
I’m not sorry if it irks you.
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Doesn’t irk me at all. I’m just amused at your last pathetic, pathological lie in a desperate attempt to add some relevance to your life.
And you are sorry.
Hank–
How about a two mile race?
You versus me?
Hehehe, that should shut him up . . .
I must have missed when you were appointed arbiter of the truth, goatherd.
PS, you’re STILL dishonest scum
Talk about bizarre, read the Capn’s 5:31 pm post.
No one with an organized brain and considered sane would even think about writing such garbage.
CapnAmerica,
How about that fight of me vs you and BlueJay?
HeHe, that ought to shut you up…
“How about that fight of me vs you and BlueJay?”
You gonna whip out your gun or hit me with your Ann Coulter doll?
How about a rifle or pistol match too?
I bet can beat any liberal here.
BlueJay,
You wouldn’t have the balls to show up anyhow. What does it matter?
Sorry, Nathan.
I don’t fight the mentally ill.
However, I will race you if you want.
Reg….it is obvious that capn is delusional. In his twisted mental state, all libs are perfect, and everyone else in the world is an evil criminal.
Sad..there have been times when capn has shown a modicum of intelligence. It is a shame that it is so overwhelmed by his universal hatred, narrow mindedness and prejudices.
BS Capn. You’d have protest speech blamed for the lawless act of an individual? So, do you want to eliminate it?
I would argue that people like you who want to blame political opponents and take political advantage of a tragic situation are the “pit of vipers”.
Obama’s grandfather was a goatherd! An honorable profession! Goats are hard to herd. It’s not easy to train a dog to herd goats. I take it as a compliment, I’m a nationally recognized goat herder!
“. . .arbiter of the truth? . . .” No, merely an observer of people. You sir are a proven liar. I’ve proved it many times here on the BLOG.
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Nathaniel
Posted May 31, 2009 at 5:41 pm | Permalink
How about a rifle or pistol match too?
I bet can beat any liberal here.
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heh heh,
Speaking of running, back when I was your age, i could run my two mile in combat boots (we didn’t wear sports shoes back then) in less than 12 minutes. Not a great time, but not bad for someone in the 1/8th ton category. :)
“You sir are a proven liar. I’ve proved it many times here on the BLOG.”
You’re confusing me with yourself.
I’m the GOOD dad who raises his kid. I got the back story on you. It explains a lot.
I dont see how a man gets shot in church and it turns into a political fight in here. A couple of guys want to meet and punch each other in the face. Oh and to wonder if the killer is a Rep. or Dem… That is nuts. We live in a state that feeds people like BTK and the Carr brothers. I hope everyone has their souls in order! The killing today was as shocking and horrible as it would be for it to happen to any human being.
See what I mean . . . not a single religious CON can bear to judge themselves with the same standard with which they judge the Islamic community after 9-11.
Tiller’s Clinic has been bombed, he was shot in both arms, and now shot dead and Nathan claims that driving to work is the real danger for abortion providers.
Unbelievable.
KTVH reports that the perp in the murder of Dr Tiller lived in a house that was a “revolving door” of people coming in and out of his home.
How many more arrests will be forthcoming?
How many WEBloggers are culpable as well?
jesus wept
Farmie! :)
And back then, Regular, you had a black grandmother and you were going to move to Mississippi.
Sorry, no soup today.
*****
cbark writes, “A couple of guys want to meet and punch each other in the face.”
Uhh, correction, cbark. ONE very strange guy wants to meet and punch people in the face.
Nobody else is really into the Fight Club thing . . .
“How many WEBloggers are culpable as well?”
I hope we are about to find out.
I wonder where bjb is? Meadowlark? Paulie the Shillie?
It is a little funny, in a stomach turning kind of way, to watch the resident, lawless hate mongers here try to wash the blood from their own hands.
Pilot anyone?
I have four letters for you.
R-I-C-O
Unless THAT law has been neutered too.
No need to make laws against hate speech.
Enforce RICO.
I’m the GOOD dad who raises his kid. I got the back story on you. It explains a lot.
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Every thing you’ve posted about my ‘back story’ is a fabricated lie.
It’s interesting that your position on abortion changed about the same time that a woman that was too smart to marry you but stupid enough to have unprotected sex with you decided not to abort and saddle your mother with another child to raise.
My boy has no complaints about the way I’ve raised him, are you jealous or just nuts? Only in a sick disturbed liberal mind would serving in the Navy be considered ‘abandoning’ a child.
KAKE – 10 is reporting that the suspect is known as anti-choice, anti-tax, anti-social security and a convicted felon as a domestic terrorist (caught with a bomb in Silver Lake).
It’s pretty clear where this is going.
CapnAmerica
Posted May 31, 2009 at 5:49 pm | Permalink
See what I mean . . . not a single religious CON can bear to judge themselves with the same standard with which they judge the Islamic community after 9-11.
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8 wack-jobs over 30+ years vs. how many “suicide” bombers over the same period?
Everything I’ve seen on the news has pro-life organizations condemning this senseless act.
I was at an early service today, but I understand at the later of my church (1045) our Pastor announced the news to the congregation and led it in prayer for the Doctor, his family, his congregation as well as the shooter.
Prayer speaks alot louder than a blanket condemnation. At least to people of faith.
Kansas… truly as bigoted as you think.
People on this blog are in denial about the murder of Matthew Shepard.
Did anyone think they’d admit the truth about his murder?
If you did… “here’s your sign”.
You don’t need to respond to that, JR.
Everybody who knows you and know Hank knows who the better man is . . . and it ain’t Hank.
“our Pastor announced the news to the congregation and led it in prayer for the Doctor, his family, his congregation as well as the shooter.”
Well, allrighty then.
That makes it ok…..
BIG effin’ eye roll.
People of faith should be proud. Like kia. He’s just busting his buttons.
I wonder who’s face will be on the NEW bullseye target in churches across the nation.
I hope Sotomayor has good protection. She’s going to need it as the residents of Wingnuttia become increasingly unhinged.
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Blaidd_Drwg69
Posted May 31, 2009 at 5:55 pm | Permalink
KAKE – 10 is reporting that the suspect is known as anti-choice, anti-tax, anti-social security and a convicted felon as a domestic terrorist (caught with a bomb in Silver Lake).
It’s pretty clear where this is going.
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Yeah, it will be going to court right here in Sedgwick County. Looks like a no brainer case for DA Foulston.
Don’t know the law, but I’m guessing he’ll the death penalty.
It may be the first time in recent times that Libs support the death penalty. :)
er he’ll get…
“It’s pretty clear where this is going.”
RICO
LOL!
Now you’re defending the BlueJay?
Ready for another Japanese lesson?
hateful nitwit
Betcha they bring federal charges! The punishments are harsher. And this hater deserves harsh.
CapnAmerica
Posted May 31, 2009 at 5:49 pm | Permalink
See what I mean . . . not a single religious CON can bear to judge themselves with the same standard with which they judge the Islamic community after 9-11
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Not even a good apples and oranges comparison.
I repeat, those who would attempt (and a sorry attempt it is) to use a lawless act by an individual to blame a group for political advantage are despicable.
That would be you Capn for one.
Kfrmgrl–
Eggzaktly.
“The preacher lead a prayer for the shooter.”
Really?
Did he lead a prayer for the Saudis who perpetrated the 9-11 attacks?
No?
Hmmmm . . .
Thanks capn, I appreciate that.
WPD, the KBI and FBI are investigating internet ties to this terroristic assassination. It will interesting to see what shows up.
Could any of the extremists here be implicated?
Susan Peters said on KAKE’s coverage that she had spoken with the (alleged) killer’s ex-wife. The man was involved with anti-abortion groups, anti-tax groups, anti-social security groups, and had been arrested and jailed in the past for carrying a bomb in his car. (That does go beyond the concealed carry law, right?)
Does that sound like a liberal to you? Sounds like a Libertarian to me. ;) (It’s a JOKE.)
People are upset. People are angry. Strong words, some hate-filled, are going to fly. It’s not like those on the Right haven’t done the same.
Chill out.
“blame a group for political advantage”
I’m certainly glad churches and the republicans NEVEFR did that with gay people.
How about the “group” is being blamed because their contribution is, ya know, fact?
For the churches of wingnuttia, the truth is just a suggestion, not a commandment or anything…..
All it will take for federal charges is to prove the gun passed into Kansas from another state or country. How many guns are manufactured in Kansas? Exactly none that are legal.
I am starting to think the Capn’ smokes the rock.
Sorry, Reg, you beat me to it. My fingers are slow today.
No, I am not in favor of the death penalty, not even now.
If convicted, I hope he rots in jail until they bury him in a potter’s field.
Someone must have forgotten the anti-death penalty advocate’s pleas to Jeb Bush to commute the death sentence of the Florida “pro-life” murderer…
Everybody who knows you and know Hank knows who the better man is . . . and it ain’t Hank.
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I’m a better goatherd!
Wakaru ka?
ignorant nitwit
Who wants to bet whether the anti-choice group(s)shows up this evening at the Tiller memorial service to protest?
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 6:03 pm | Permalink
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You are kinda selfish given someone died today….That wasn’t gay!
CapnAmerica posted May 31, 2009 at 5:31 pm
When has someone on the left ever killed someone on the right for their political beliefs?
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A former Naval officer (Vietnam) wrote a mystery novel. . .
The Assassination of Rush Limbaugh (Hardcover)
by Tom Layne (Author)
http://www.publiclibraries.com/authors/tslayne/index.html
“Could any of the extremists here be implicated?”
Who’s betting that Phillip and the WE blog techies got called into work today?
I wonder if we will ever know which of the resident wingnuts here was a part of this conspiracy.
I mean, we really dont know parkay’s identity, now do we? Or any of his Wingnut brothers and sisters here, now do we?
I hope for once in this sorry freakin’ state the truth comes out.
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lindainks55
Posted May 31, 2009 at 6:04 pm | Permalink
All it will take for federal charges is to prove the gun passed into Kansas from another state or country. How many guns are manufactured in Kansas? Exactly none that are legal.
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ummm…I’m pretty sure that gun crimes don’t work that way.
If the murder suspect of George Tiller ordered the gun through mail order or purchased it in another state, then yeah.
If what you say is true, then every crime with a gun would have a federal attachment to it, it doesn’t.
“It’s interesting that your position on abortion changed about the same time that a woman that was too smart to marry you but stupid enough to have unprotected sex with you decided not to abort and saddle your mother with another child to raise.”
THAT fantasy rant doesn’t even make any sense.
Your argument is that the birth of our son changed our opinion on abortion?
No, we just found out that the “pro life” movement was populated largely by people like you. I don’t share much with my son’s mother. But we do share a distaste for dishonesty and hypocrisy.
No, I am not in favor of the death penalty, not even now.
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I am, even now…Burn the fuqer down.
“Who wants to bet whether the anti-choice group(s)shows up this evening at the Tiller memorial service to protest?”
Sucker bet. They show up everywhere.
They OWN your city.
Well, it doesn’t matter what you’re pretty sure about. I’m positive!
Mr_Kia
Posted May 31, 2009 at 6:07 pm | Permalink
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
CapnAmerica
Posted May 31, 2009 at 6:01 pm | Permalink
Kfrmgrl–
Eggzaktly.
“The preacher lead a prayer for the shooter.”
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That’s not the quote. But thanks for putting your usual hateful spin as truth on it.
And FG I notice it didn’t take long for you to put Gays back on the cross as well.
You are the one’s who should be ashamed of yourselves but you’re too sick to realize it.
The libertards are the ones using a tragedy to further their own political agendas.
back in an hour…
“It may be the first time in recent times that Libs support the death penalty.”
Not this Liberal – with over 130 people released from Death Row after having their convictions overturned, there is no way that I can support the Death Penalty.
Give them life without the possibility of parole.
That is an acceptable sentence.
Cheaper, too.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 6:06 pm | Permalink
“Could any of the extremists here be implicated?”
Who’s betting that Phillip and the WE blog techies got called into work today?
I wonder if we will ever know which of the resident wingnuts here was a part of this conspiracy.
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What a drama Queen…Jeebus, you lefties are a joke!
John Mellencamp.
“Blood on the scarecrow, blood on the plow”.
Oh, but we are such a PEACEFUL state!
Niemoller was right.
And now they are coming for YOU!
Hey Hank!
Tell us again about how you know more about climate science than the worlds top climate scientists because of your “liason” (sic) duty.
And now they are coming for YOU!
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Who’s that?
No one’s laughing but you, Anti.
Color me surprised….It’s what I’d expect from a redneck wingnut.
Anti choice. Anti gay. Anti women. Anti government. Anti everything.
The party of no.
Anti.
How fitting.
Still laughin’ at ya, KFG….and I ain’t the only one…
ANTI
Posted May 31, 2009 at 6:15 pm | Permalink
Still laughin’ at ya, KFG….and I ain’t the only one…
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Count me in…as well as pointing.
If the wingnuts here were as smart as dogs…
…we could rub their noses in blood shed by their fellows.
But they arent.
So we wont.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 6:15 pm | Permalink
Anti choice. Anti gay. Anti women. Anti government. Anti everything.
The party of no.
Anti.
How fitting.
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You seem angry.
Too stupid to be ashamed.
That’s predictable.
Two christians laughing at murder.
Color me surprised.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 6:16 pm | Permalink
If the wingnuts here were as smart as dogs…
…we could rub their noses in blood shed by their fellows.
But they arent.
So we wont.
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I’ll take credit for this wackjob as soon as you and yours do John Wayne Gacy how’s that?
“I, for one, am not surprised that this man of sanitized violence met a violent end.”—outlander
An almost poetic statement.
I grieve for the Tiller family, I sincerely do, and am sick that this kind of thing can happen in our so called civilized society.
But I too am not surprised. It reminds me of the age old statement that “those that live by the sword die by the sword”. And maybe this is exactly what has happened.
Legal or not many consider abortion the violent taking of innocent life. Even though legal, Tiller lived by ending life, and even though legally innocent….he died by violence.
Sad all around, for all involved.
I tend to agree with ksfarmgrrl on this one
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 6:17 pm | Permalink
Two christians laughing at murder.
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No FG just at you.
And ANTI-logical thinking. . .
Maybe this will FINALLY be a tipping point.
The end of religion in the US.
Nawwwwwww.
The collective IQ of the nation would have to rise a lot for that to happen.
We’ll just have to have more religious murders.
Holy war. The definition of jihad.
Chose your enemies wisely, for you shall become them.
How does it feel to be an Islamic terrorist?
Right wing hate radio is the madrassa for the American Taliban.
Then when their terrorists act out the implication of the hate speech–”liberals want American soldiers to die in Iraq,” “liberals are traitors to America and everything it stands for,” “Obama is a socialist,” “Abortion is murder and Abortionists are murderers,” they are shocked! to find out that their terrorist strorm troopers would follow up on the logical conclusion of that hate speech.
And what of us who do see the clear cause and effect and who bear the brunt of the terrorism?
Why, we’re using a horrible murder for our own ends, don’t you see.
It’s like the Jews who said, “this Hitler guy is a vicious racist” and were told by the good Nazis that the Jews were the real racists by claiming victim status for their own gain.
And for the THIRD time, bigotbawks blames Tiller for his own murder.
How very christian of you.
Typical. It’s all the libs fault for the way cons post. They are too weak to control their own posts. It’s always someone else’s fault.
How very christian of you.
“Right wing hate radio is the madrassa for the American Taliban.”
Dont forget “Jesus Camp”.
And the RNC must be grad school?
What a fine day for the holy among us.
Nice to see you all being so proud of this.
Remind me again, who would Jesus kill?
“I grieve for the Tiller family, I sincerely do”
Ya know, if you have to TELL us how sincere you are…
you probably arent.
“No FG just at you”
No, just two guys trying to make sport of a tragic event. Ms. Farm Grrl has many friends and supporters here, and I count myself among those, and I consider myself to be one of her most active supporters.
As I stated earlier, is this the level of discourse that we have sunk to?
Christ, I hope not.
Give it a rest and lay off.
Thank you Clark.
They are really, really, really invested in this not being related to anything else. But it’s a pattern. Jame Byrd. Matthew Shepard. George Tiller.
Yeah. Nothing to see here. No connection at all.
Move along please, nothing to see.
The only ones in denial are the wingnuts.
It’s their only comfort.
Strike that. They’d have to have a soul in order to feel discomfort or seek comfort.
They dont. Kinda like reptiles.
As usual, kfg is totally psycho, selfishly focused on homosexuality, and spewing hate for everyone who disagrees.
Worthless posts….please go away again.
Okay, off to the vigil.
Rush Limbaugh, the comic, doesn’t seem so funny now, does he.
Boxlock–
Kfrmgrl is exactly right–the same CON christians that attack homosexuals attack liberals etc.
The first thing out of Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell’s mouths after 9-11 is that it was payback for homosexuality and abortion.
“Rush Limbaugh, the comic, doesn’t seem so funny now, does he.”
Oh please.
You dont have to scroll too far up to see that indeed, the wingnuttia residents here think it’s laughable.
They’ll be HOWLING at their radios tomorrow.
…and speaking of jokes…
It’s so funny I could cry.
Bigotbawks thinks that a Doctor who performs LEGAL medical proceedures is getting some kind of cosmic justice when he’s murdered.
jesus wept
Here is a timely post: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shannyn-moore/christian-fundamentalist_b_209521.html
Think back, Capn. Think about all of those times that you blamed George Bush for thousands of casualties in Iraq. Let’s say that he had been assassinated. Are you saying that you would have just stepped up accepted blame? Ridiculous right?
That is exactly what you are expecting anti-abortion folks to do here.
Bottom line is that emotions are high and you need to think and quit inflaming passions with your deceptive and defective rhetoric.
Dont forget Katrina, Captain.
Robertson blamed the queers for Katrina too.
And the fact that eric the rudolph bombed both LEGAL medical clinics AND gay bars?
No relation. Not connected. No pattern.
Nothing to see here, move along.
Uh huh.
And they are SINCERE about believing it.
And some preacher said a prayer about it.
I guess that makes it all ok….
Pardon my cut and paste:
The George Tiller I Knew
by loree920
Sun May 31, 2009 at 03:40:30 PM PDT
Like many in this community, my heart is heavy today. There have been many great diaries that talk about Dr. Tiller’s years of service to women, and the threats he has endured throughout the last years of his life. My story is a bit more personal and I want to share it with all of you to give you more insight into the man.
In 1975 my Mom noticed an indention in her left breast. She called and made an appointment with her OB/GYN, Dr. George Tiller. After his initial examination, he ordered a biopsy. While performing the biopsy he immediately knew that the lump was cancerous. Instead of just closing and scheduling surgery, he “grabbed a handful”, his words not mine. Her cancer Dr. credited this quick thinking by Dr. Tiller with saving her life, and due to this she didn’t even have to undergo chemotherapy.
Several years later my Mother and I were driving by his clinic in Wichita. Mom started complaining of chest pains, so I drove into his parking lot and ran in to get help. Dr. Tiller was by Mom’s side immediately, and stabilized her, before the heart attack could cause severe damage.
In 1980 I was pregnant with my first child. I had no insurance and couldn’t afford a doctors appointment until I was approved for a medical card.. Mom told Dr. Tiller and he brought me into his office where he examined me, free of charge. I can credit him with the very first picture taken of my son.
The last story I have to share is about my friends who could not have children. Dr. Tiller’s office worked with several attorneys in the Wichita area to provide adoption services for his patients who wanted this option. My friends have a 10 yr. old boy now, who is loved and adored.
I’m not a great writer, so I apologize that this isn’t nearly as eloquent as some of the diaries on Daily Kos. I just wanted to get this story out to you, so you could hear how this man wasn’t just a tremendous fighter for women’s rights. he was a brilliant physician, and a kind and compassionate human being. RIP Dr. Tiller and thank you for all you did for my friends and my family.
From Daily Kos http://loree920.dailykos.com/
“That is exactly what you are expecting anti-abortion folks to do here.”
No.
I dont have such high expectations of you and the other christianist wingnuts here.
You are, though, doing EXACTLY what I expected you to do. Deny, deflect, defend.
Taking responsibility is waaaaaay over your pay grade. I never go wrong lowering my expectations of you and yours.
This thread just proves it.
How does it feel to be so predictable? Does it hurt?
Oops, of course not. You’d have to be a warm blooded mammal to feel pain….
Oops, of course not. You’d have to be a warm blooded mammal to feel pain….
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Well, I see you brought your usual debating skills.
“Bigotbawks thinks that a Doctor who performs LEGAL medical proceedures is getting some kind of cosmic justice “–kfg
I never said that, I simply said that it is interesting that those that live by violence….die by the same, and that many folks consider the act of abortion to be an act of violence against the most innocent and deserving of protection, legal or not.
It’s a sad day.
Only extremist from either side would consider this an act that represents the wishes of those of us that are pro-life.
Just keep spinning box.
The first rule of holes.
The truth is the only debating skill I need outie.
You have heard of that concept, right?
The truth. Look it up. If your overgrown brow doesnt get in the way of reading….
Does it hurt when your knuckles drag?
Nevermind.
“Only a sane person from either side would consider this an act that represents the wishes of those of us that are pro-life.”
There. Fixed it for you.
How does it feel to be an Islamic terrorist?
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The Left has gone Kooktastic…Color me, whatever color the left decides I should be…
Well, the left here don’t seem to be broken up over Tiller’s death.
They are too busy beating their own chests and screaming like a bunch of chimps over some imaginary territory.
Sad
KFN – you’ve always been an extremist.
Thanks for supporting my earlier statement.
Bigotbawks posted: “But I too am not surprised. It reminds me of the age old statement that “those that live by the sword die by the sword”. And maybe this is exactly what has happened.”
Then I said: “Bigotbawks thinks that a Doctor who performs LEGAL medical proceedures is getting some kind of cosmic justice”.
And then bigotbawks said “I never said that, I simply said that it is interesting…”
I rest my case.
Denial. It’s not just a river in Egypt anymore.
Come on cons, keep posting your denials, deflections, and defenses.
The folks who were NOT turned away from religion today by murder might indeed turn away from christ if they read your posts.
Post, man, POST!
ksfarmgrrl,
Tiller was attending Church….Worshiping Christ…
Evil Christian!
KFN?
He’s illiterate AND a bigot?
Big surprise.
Keep posting guys. The atheists need the numbers.
Remind me again, who would Jesus kill?
Look for an uppity queer to wind up dead too. Probably in church as well.
I hope MCC has good security….
Just makes ya wanna run right out and win one for Jesus, doesnt it?
What about the Christians in the Dr.’s congregation?
Are they as responsible as all the other Christians you blame?
Go ahead. I dare you.
Remind me again, who would Jesus kill?
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Ask Tiller, he went to church.
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ANTI
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:02 pm | Permalink
ksfarmgrrl,
Tiller was attending Church….Worshiping Christ…
Evil Christian!
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:03 pm | Permalink
Just makes ya wanna run right out and win one for Jesus, doesnt it?
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I assume Tiller was a fan of Jesus, you know being a Lutheran and all.
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:03 pm | Permalink
Just makes ya wanna run right out and win one for Jesus, doesnt it?
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Tiller was trying to win one from Jesus. He was performing usher duty in a Christian Church.
I just hope someday we look back on May 31, 2009 as the day, with apologies to Don McLean, the “church” died.
The end of religion would be a very good thing for the advancement of human kind.
Sounds like KFG hate Christians like Tiller, even wishes them death!
“He was performing usher duty in a Christian Church when he was gunned down by another self professed christian.”
There. Fixed it for you.
And this is NOT a religious war?
Jihad.
You cons have already become what you fear.
Terrorists.
KFG,
You are a gopher mound in a square mile of sand.
“Sounds like KFG hate Christians like Tiller, even wishes them death!”
Law enforcement? Take note.
And you wonder why the blog will be investigated for connections to murder.
Just ask Anti.
And because you cant read, and it’s not nice to be mean to the illiterate, I’ll type real slow.
I wished “death” to the church. To people?
Please repost where I did that.
It’s just that kind of baseless rhetoric that incites murder.
Law enforcement? Take note.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:07 pm | Permalink
“He was performing usher duty in a Christian Church when he was gunned down by another self professed christian.”
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You know this how?
Maybe it was a man lust/jealousy thing since you state they acknowledge the same faith?
Jihad.-KFG
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Yeah, Uh huh….Dumbass.
Anti.
How fitting.
There are some passages about the “advancement” of human kind as you put it to be found in the book of Revelation, specifically after “religion dies.”
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:09 pm
It’s just my baseless rhetoric that incites murder.
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There, fixed it for you.
Regular posted May 31, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Well, the left here don’t seem to be broken up over Tiller’s death.
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HLP
Posted May 31, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Tiller was a scourge on the earth. I think he was a murderer and I do not mourn his passing.
“Maybe it was a man lust/jealousy thing since you state they acknowledge the same faith?”
When the guilty party admits his motivations were religious, will you be apologizing to me?
Of course not.
The truth will be told eventually. If you think this killer was NOT on a religious jihad, you are whistling in the dark.
Meet me back here when he makes his statements. Then we’ll see how devoted you and the other christianists here are to the truth.
Hey cosmos, post some climate stuff to show the other Libs how much you care about George Tiller’s murder.
Wait, never mind, you already did that.
You twist your hate the same way the shooter does. Doesn’t make it a truth about a faith.
“There are some passages about the “advancement” of human kind as you put it to be found in the book of Revelation, specifically after “religion dies.”
That would be the same books that holds as truth talking snakes, virgin birth and a dead man rising after three days?
ok. Just dont forget to take your meds.
jesus wept
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:13 pm | Permalink
When the guilty party admits his motivations were religious, will you be apologizing to me?
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So you are saying this was a Christian on Christian hate crime?
Is DA Foulston gonna include that in her prosecution speech?
That would be the same books that holds as truth talking snakes, virgin birth and a dead man rising after three days?
ok. Just dont forget to take your meds.
jesus wept
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He probably is.
For you.
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Regular
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:11 pm | Permalink
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:09 pm
It’s just my baseless rhetoric that incites murder.
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There, fixed it for you.
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Remind me again. When was the last time a pro-choice person committed murder on an anti?
Oh, and remind me again too of the last time an atheist shot up a church.
“When the guilty party admits his motivations were religious, will you be apologizing to me?”
Since you didnt answer my question except to post another question, I’ll take that as a no. You wont be apologizing when this guy admits he murdered because of his christian beliefs.
I never really expected you’d apologize when the truth is confirmed. It was a nice thought, but I knew it wouldnt happen.
That would be the same books that holds as truth talking snakes, virgin birth and a dead man rising after three days?
ok. Just dont forget to take your meds.
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I bet that was the same book Tiller read and worshiped by its guidance.
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:17 pm | Permalink
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Regular
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:11 pm | Permalink
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:09 pm
It’s just my baseless rhetoric that incites murder.
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There, fixed it for you.
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Remind me again. When was the last time a pro-choice person committed murder on an anti?
Oh, and remind me again too of the last time an atheist shot up a church.
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Oh, let’s see – let’s use CapnAmerica’s tactics.
Why do you approve of O’Bama killing innocent Muslims in Pakistan and Afghanistan? O’Bama has ordered predator drones in to kill women and children.
Kia,
“He probably is.
For you.”
Hey, I know Farmgal, have eaten her truly delicious fried chicken, blogged with her here for years. She’s not the one who needs weeping for.
It’s so true, it bears repeating.
“ok. Just dont forget to take your meds.”
I suppose you will post the same nonsense about Tiller that you did about Harvey Milk?
That he was just an innocent bystander caught in the crossfire?
That’s YOUR grasp on the truth.
Thanks Jed.
Reg, you are just making a fool of yourself by answering questions with more questions.
Stop. First rule of holes.
KFG, you are ridiculous.
I am glad you are back, your psychosis gives me great entertainment.
Yes Regular. . . Hank, as usual, was wrong about his attack on the IPCC.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/open-thread-531-2/comment-page-10/#comment-583702
Remind me again. When was the last time a pro-choice person committed murder on an anti?
Oh, and remind me again too of the last time an atheist shot up a church.
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:20 pm | Permalink
I never really expected you’d apologize when the truth is confirmed. It was a nice thought, but I knew it wouldnt happen.
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Why should I apologize for a nut case?
I dislike those nut jobs in Topeka at Westboro who protest at funerals with some screwed up agenda.
I don’t apologize for them either, they are just screw ball idiots imo.
Anti. How fitting.
Whistling past the graveyard.
I’m sorry you are so afraid of the truth.
It doesnt fall with the pull of a trigger, so you dont know how to deal with it.
I bet if you went out and killed something, you’d feel better. Spilled blood does that for those who lust for it.
Washed in the blood indeed.
When was the last time a pro-choice person committed murder on an anti?
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I was a Sheriff..when we were stealing cattle….and horses….and a border collie.
I assume you meant ‘ANTI’s’.
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:23 pm | Permalink
Thanks Jed.
Reg, you are just making a fool of yourself by answering questions with more questions.
Stop. First rule of holes.
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No KFG, you are the fool here.
Spitting in everyone’s face just because they don’t bow down and kiss your azz when you write something.
This ain’t Texas and you ain’t no Texas Ranger.
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:26 pm | Permalink
Anti. How fitting.
Whistling past the graveyard.
I’m sorry you are so afraid of the truth.
It doesnt fall with the pull of a trigger, so you dont know how to deal with it.
I bet if you went out and killed something, you’d feel better. Spilled blood does that for those who lust for it.
Washed in the blood indeed.
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Hittin’ the sauce are we?
Nut job.
“Why should I apologize for a nut case?”
I never asked you to do that.
I asked you to apologize for your comment to me when this guy makes his grand statements about why he committed murdered for jesus.
But you wont do either.
Fine. You speak for your own character when you refuse to recognize the truth.
And even if this christian murderer says it himself?
You will still be in denial.
Deniers for Jesus.
Kinda has a ring to it, no?
I asked you to apologize for your comment to me when this guy makes his grand statements about why he committed murdered for jesus.
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Tiller?
Deniers for Jesus.
Kinda has a ring to it, no?
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Tiller?
Since anti, like reg, just answers questions with more questions…
“When was the last time a pro-choice person committed murder on an anti?”
I guess that would be a “never”.
Spin all you want. It doesnt change the facts.
And your blatant denial of the facts speaks loudly for who you are.
Like a colony of vultures or a clan of hyenas the smell of blood has brought new and excited liberals to the weblog.
IRONY:
WS Clark posting a note about how we should stop the divisiveness.
KFG then posting some of the most divisive comments.
WS Clark then saying that he fully supports KFG.
KFG continuing to post divisive comments.
Pitiful. Just pitiful.
Keep posting those gems boys.
I’m sure it’s adding to the credibility of you and yours.
And according to you all, it’s all a joke anyway…
And before KFG or any of the Leftist reactionaries go ape schitt:
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/open-thread-531-2/comment-page-10/#comment-584065
Yeah, well let me speak more slowly.
I don’t care what the guy says.
I don’t apologize for what a nut case does or says.
And according to you all, it’s all a joke anyway…
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Just you, that’s all.
The purpose of this act was two fold. First to kill Tiller, but secondly to scare others in hopes they will stop providing abortions. This is the definition of terrorism and I hope the AG has the guts to try this person as a domestic terrorist. Hide behind the bible to justify this terrible act if you wish but when individuals take the law into their own hands and we start to kill those whose opinions/lifestyles offend us then civilization will break down and anarchy will reign. That will be the down fall of the United States not abortion or gay marriage or any of the countless other causes taken up in the name of God.
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Regular
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:33 pm | Permalink
Yeah, well let me speak more slowly.
I don’t care what the guy says.
I don’t apologize for what a nut case does or says.
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Me neither.
I wonder, will WS Clarks new found objecting of being divisive bring him to condemn a fellow liberal poster or simply continue to unabashedly voice his support of those who continue to be divisive?
No one has to “color you anything anti.
ANTI
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:31 pm | Permalink
Deniers for Jesus.
Kinda has a ring to it, no?
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Tiller?
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You show your true colors quite well yourself.
…and with those posts, I believe Nathan was the first to break his own agreement with Clark.
Hypocrisy, thy name is…
Please repost where I asked you to apologize for the murderer.
Go ahead. I’ll wait.
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:37 pm | Permalink
Please repost where I asked you to apologize for the murderer.
Go ahead. I’ll wait.
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You can wait until your boots rot off then.
I don’t need to apologize for anything connected to this case just because I lived on the same planet with some screw balls.
Are you going to apologize for Jeffrey Daumer, the homosexual, who lured children into his house, killed and cannibalized them?
I’ll wait for your apology behalf of the gay community for Jeffrey Daumer despicable deeds.
KFG,
You might believe many things, doesn’t make them anywhere close to correct.
Nevermind the fact that you don’t seem to understand what “hypocrite” actually means.
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Regular
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:40 pm | Permalink
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:37 pm | Permalink
Please repost where I asked you to apologize for the murderer.
Go ahead. I’ll wait.
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You can wait until your boots rot off then.
I don’t need to apologize for anything connected to this case just because I lived on the same planet with some screw balls.
Are you going to apologize for Jeffrey Daumer, the homosexual, who lured children into his house, killed and cannibalized them?
I’ll wait for your apology behalf of the gay community for Jeffrey Daumer despicable deeds.
I’ll wait for your apology behalf of the gay community for Jeffrey Daumer despicable deeds.
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Dahmer was born into a family of devout members of the Stone-Campbell denomination known as the “church of Christ” or “Churches of Christ.” He was an active churchgoer until the age of 5. After that, Dahmer was never again actively religious or a regular churchgoer
He weren’t no christian either.
Jeffrey Dahmer was a registered Democrat.
I think we should be seeing a whole lotta apologies from libs.
Notice how the right wing wackos insist it was the act of ONE man.
Mark my words…there will be multiple arrests in this murder.
So…that would be a “no” on me saying you should apologize for the murderer.
You guys are so easy….
Keep ginnin’ up that phony outrage. It’s sure workin’ good for ya!
And for you scoring at home, that Jeffry Dahmer red herring is the “deflection” part of deny, deflect defend.
Does it hurt to be so predictable?
“…there will be multiple arrests in this murder”
Part of the vast right wing conspiracy ewwwwh! Buga buga!
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satatom
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:54 pm | Permalink
Notice how the right wing wackos insist it was the act of ONE man.
Mark my words…there will be multiple arrests in this murder.
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Aren’t you going to be late for the Vigil?
Hmmmm. I see the truth is only beginning to come out.
This guy sure sounds like Pleefer. Where is he?
“Suspect in Dr. Tiller’s Assassination Appears to Have Operation Rescue Ties.
Category: Medicine • Misc
Posted on: May 31, 2009 8:06 PM, by Mike Dunford
Wichita NBC affiliate KSHB-TV is reporting that the suspect being held in the assassination of Dr. George Tiller is a man named Scott Roeder. Posters in the forums at the DemocraticUnderground have identified at least one posting at Operation Rescue’s website (currently down, link to Google cache here) that’s written by a Scott Roeder and refers to Dr. Tiller.
There is also information that indicates that a suspected Freeman named Scott Roeder was arrested in Topeka in 1996 for parole violations related to his having bomb making materials in his car trunk. At that time, he was identified as being 38, which would make him 51 today. Another recent news report gives the current age of the suspect in Tiller’s assassination as 51.
The information currently available strongly suspects that this Scott Roeder is exactly the kind of radical right-wing extremist that was discussed in a recent Homeland Security report – you remember that report, right? It’s the one that various semi-mainstream conservatives got all self-righteously irate over a couple of months ago. “
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:55 pm | Permalink
And for you scoring at home, that Jeffry Dahmer red herring is the “deflection” part of deny, deflect defend.
Does it hurt to be so predictable?
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You’ve been throwing out entire oceans of red herrings since you’ve logged on.
All, easily defeated.
farmgrrl, come home. this isn’t the place, these aren’t the people. hate isn’t the way and there are too many haters here. it drags you down and no one should be drug down to this level.
There are some experts who think Jeffry Dahmer was so frustrated and ashamed of his deviant homosexual behavior (self hate) that his guilt drove him to destroy his sexual partners. He didn’t just have to kill them – he had to destroy their bodies to erase his shame.
“Then I said: “Bigotbawks thinks that a Doctor who performs LEGAL medical proceedures is getting some kind of cosmic justice”.” the resident obnoxious queer
Again, I never said it was “justice”, never used the term.
I said it was interesting, thought provoking, in light of that age old statement of “those that live by the sword…die by the sword.
Think about that kfg.
Here’s a link to that Domestic Terrorism report that had con panties in a wad for weeks.
Turns out Mr. Powder Blue Taurus fits the profile to a T.
Why do cons hate the truth?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/14/homeland-security-report_n_186834.html
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 7:56 pm | Permalink
Hmmmm. I see the truth is only beginning to come out.
This guy sure sounds like Pleefer. Where is he?
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Beats me. I didn’t care for Pfeefer, he was a tad cwazy with his conspiracy theories.
Kind of like some on here, who think there is a conspiracy to everything instead of someone being just an evil bastage.
…and for those of you scoring at home, the latest whine from bigotbawks would be the “deny” part of “deny, deflect, defend”.
You guys are so easy.
You could murder me too, but it would not change the truth of who you cons are. You make it more clear with every post.
More info on Scott Roeder, champion of wingnuts everywhere.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/14/homeland-security-report_n_186834.html
Sheep
An October 2003 study by Dr. Charles E. Roselli et al. (Oregon Health and Science University) states that homosexuality in male sheep (found in 8% of rams) is associated with a region in the rams’ brains which the authors call the “ovine Sexually Dimorphic Nucleus” (oSDN) which is half the size of the corresponding region in heterosexual male sheep.
How many gay people are there in America?
Amongst the women he found:
13% reported some homosexual contact;
4% reported more homosexual than heterosexual contact;
1% reported exclusively homosexual contact.
KFG,
Please take the advice of Linda.
Your constant attempts at being divisive here are unproudctive and serve to only drag down the WE Blog.
Yes, please go home.
Linda,
Thank you. Please help your friend KFG find the way back to civility.
We will graciously await her return when she can be a thoughtful contributing member here and not simply an effort in being so divisive.
Especially on this tragic day.
Oh yeah. Truth, sweet, sweet truth. I think even the bible says “it will set you free”.
Chickens, roost, etc.
Confirmed: Tiller’s killer associated with Operation Rescue
OR’s site is down right now, but here is the Google cache of it:
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:ZzTSMfjbUlsJ:www.op...
Check out post #9.
# Scott Roeder Says:
May 19th, 2007 at 4:34 pm
Bleass everyone for attending and praying in May to bring justice to Tiller and the closing of his death camp.
Sometime soon, would it be feasible to organize as many people as possible to attend Tillers church (inside, not just outside) to have much more of a presence and possibly ask questions of the Pastor, Deacons, Elders and members while there? Doesn’t seem like it would hurt anything but bring more attention to Tiller.”
Wow. Sure sounds like a LOT of posters here!
Law enforcement, take note!
You just cant handle the truth, can you nathan?
“her appearance has certainly demonstrated nothing but hate and aggressive attacks on other posters.”
The truth. You wouldnt know it if it bit you in the ass.
Deny, deflect, defend.
Murderers for Jesus. Look for a chapter starting up near you!
Isn’t Roeder a German name KFG? Don’t you have a German name?
Those German’s, like Hitler are just so nasty and blame others for their problems. With Hitler, it was the Jews, for KFG, it’s the Christians and for Roeder? – who knows – he seemed to hate every one, especially with his bomb making escapade that was thankfully caught before strategy struck.
Sorry, KFG is rubbing off on me, just using her logic in explaining things – you know – belong to some group or connected by some remote trait – then if one is guilty – so are the rest type of mentality.
So let’s review, shall we?
This guy Scott Roeder is a white, christian, male, straight, soverign anti government, gun totin’, bomb building conservative. Probably a republican too.
Is anyone really surprised?
Yeah. That DHS description of domestic terrorism was so wrong.
Big eye roll.
He’s yours, cons. ALL yours.
Truth?
The truth being that I have not posted here in a week and come back from traingint to see one of you liberals insinuating that it was I who did this?
From the very start you liberals have sought to make this entire tragic day an attack on us Conservatives.
Your posts here have been little more than an effort in continuing these attacks and being divisive.
Why do you not simply post something in reflection about Dr Tiller on this tragic day instead of being so divisive?
Where is your civility at?
The truth. It’s just hurtin’ ya isnt it?
I wonder if Marines like cheese with their whine?
As the great CF used to say…
“If the hood fits, wear it”.
KFG,
I see. The typical liberal tactic.
Attack those you disagree with and make demands for civility. Then when those you attack point out this glaring contradiction, attack them for whining.
Is that all you got?
Linda? WS Clark?
Where are your cries for civility here for your friend KFG?
The one you claim to support and stand behind?
“Why do you not simply post something in reflection about Dr Tiller on this tragic day instead of being so divisive?”
Well, first of all, anyone who has read more than one of nathan’s posts would know that it’s very likely he does NOT regard this day as tragic. It’s nice for effect, but it just doesnt square up with his previous posts.
And as for posting something reflective?
No, I think I’ll just stick with the truth as it is revealed. That seems to grate on cons more than anything else.
Yet another unanswered question.
Why do cons hate the truth?
The blogs are saying Roeder had a tie to Operation Rescue. Funny, I thougth sure he went in and shot Tiller in the head was because of something offensive in the church bulletin Tiller was handing out. Hmmm….
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/33811_Tiller_Murder_Suspect_Identified_Posted_at_Operation_Rescue
“Attack those you disagree with and make demands for civility.”
Please repost where I asked for civility.
You didn’t go to the Vigil StevenEDavis? Where is your compassion?
This guy Scott Roeder is a white, christian, male, straight…-KFG
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Sounds like Tiller, he was white, Christian, Male, and straight!
kfg has nothing more than a tired, very tired, old, very old, tactic of trying to tar a group with the actions of a wacked out individual. An action that has been condemned by everyone.
She used to be fairly effective at it. But her hatred overpowers everything. Now she just screeches.
She deserves nothing more than to be ignored.
As the great CF used to say…
“If the hood fits, wear it”.
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I’ll bet your rainbow anti-Christian one fits well, probably has sweat stains all over it.
KFG,
“Why do cons hate the truth?”
1. Your question assumes the premise that cons hate the truth.
a. I don’t hate the truth. I can’t speak for all conservatives anymore than you can, but what evidence do you bring to the table to make such an assertion that cons hate the truth?
2. You use a term “cons” in a demeaning way. When asking a question using a term to demean the target audience, why would you sit around wondering why that audience wouldn’t treat your question with any quickness in response?
3. To answer your question based on a false premise, written as a logical fallacy of the loaded question, using an insult to decribe your intended audience:
I don’t hate the truth, thus I can’t respond to a question asking me if I hate the truth.
Sorry, that last sentence should read:
I don’t hate the truth, thus I can’t respond to a question asking me WHY I hate the truth.
She deserves nothing more than to be ignored.
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Right and Done.
KFG,
So, you don’t want civility then?
You cons all have blood on your hands. But you will never man up and admit it.
Doesnt matter. People who seek the truth know.
You should try it sometime.
“and the truth will set you free”
Farmgrrl is absolutely correct on this. She is also a victim of hate because of who she is and knows well what she is talking about.
I want her to come home and blog with people who love and respect her. Because she doesn’t deserve more of this.
But she is telling the truth. The haters have brought our country to a new low. It’s encouraged by right-wing media, by the past VP, by an administration who condones torture, by the current Republican Senators and spokespersons who call a SCOTUS nominee malicious names, by people who are easily whipped into a frenzy of hate in the name of God. This isn’t any longer America. It’s what a theology is — intolerant and full of hate.
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ANTI
Posted May 31, 2009 at 8:26 pm | Permalink
This guy Scott Roeder is a white, christian, male, straight…-KFG
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Sounds like Tiller, he was white, Christian, Male, and straight!
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Why does the left hate Tiller, a Christian?
Deny, deflect, defend.
For those of you scoring at home, anti’s post about my rainbow hood fits all three.
Jesus, could you guys BE more predictable?
Linda,
You might look at your own post which is full of… guess what?
Intolerance and hate towards religion.
You are looking at the actions of one person who represents a very small minority and then blaming an entire group of people who had nothing to do with it, don’t condone it, and would never support it.
So, yes, go back to your “home” where once again you can pretend like you are a wonderful person.
Key word: PRETEND
Thank you Linda. I’m reading the “home” blog and will deal with you later! HA!
In the meantime, these cons are getting so much truth they are choking on it.
And, as you can see, they dont like the taste of truth, so they deny, deflect and defend like the crazy people they are.
God I hope this day is a turning point for how we treat mental illnesses like religion.
I bet lindainks and KFG are blaming that Catholic Nun, a Christian, who goes from house to house here in Wichita to see what people need…
I bet they are blaming that Catholic Nun for Tiller’s murder.
Or perhaps, they should blame another well known Christian, Barack Obama, the President of the United States.
Barack’s wife and children are Christian, KFG and lindainks can blame them as well.
http://img1.picturewizard.com/1328EA3/0/ScottRoederOR5-27-2007.jpg
It would appear that the people at Operation Rescue had foreknowledge that Scott Roeder wanted to enter the sanctuary at Tiller’s church and cause trouble.
I wonder if they alerted the proper authorities to this potentially dangerous situation?
This is your hate and intolerance Linda:
“God I hope this day is a turning point for how we treat mental illnesses like religion.”
“I wonder if they alerted the proper authorities to this potentially dangerous situation?”
Uh huh.
R-I-C-O
Bring them ALL to justice.
My gosh! I’m catching on!
It’s Martin Luther King Jr’s fault that George Tiller was murdered!
After all, MLK Jr. was a Christian!
Show of hands how many of us here are members of Kansans for Life or Operation Rescue?
Mine remains down.
Case closed.
Oh, and JFK! JFK was a staunch Catholic!
Let’s blame JFK for George Tiller’s murder as well!
Here’s a nice compilation of “christian” love expressed in the wake of Dr. Tiller’s assassination –
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7192
Really nathan? Hate and intolerance?
If I said we needed to change the way we deal with mental illnesses like paranoia and delusions of being god, would you accuse me of hating the mentally ill?
I feel sorry for people with mental illnesses. Including religious beliefs.
Talking snakes? Virgin births? People living inside of whales? Three day corpses rising from the dead?
Let’s talk mental illness….
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 8:41 pm | Permalink
Really nathan? Hate and intolerance?
If I said we needed to change the way we deal with mental illnesses like paranoia and delusions of being god, would you accuse me of hating the mentally ill?
I feel sorry for people with mental illnesses. Including religious beliefs.
Talking snakes? Virgin births? People living inside of whales? Three day corpses rising from the dead?
Let’s talk mental illness….
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So you are saying that Gay ministers are mentally ill?
“Show of hands how many of us here are members of Kansans for Life or Operation Rescue?
Mine remains down.”
And we would know this… how?
All we have here is your word.
And given that you think Harvey Milk was an innocent bystander killed by crossfire….
I’m thinking your word AND two bucks will get you coffee.
I guess you dont get that when your word has no value, it has no value?
Deny, deflect, defend.
Like anyone now will ADMIT to being OR.
No one voted for Nixon either….
I’m not going to make this a Gay discussion no matter how hard you try KFG.
Mental illness?
You’re familiar with ego-centricity yes?
“So you are saying that Gay ministers are mentally ill?”
Did I say that? But thanks for playing anyway.
And now that you mention it, I believe it is called the Stockholm Syndrome, when folks who have been abused identify with their abusers.
If the shoe fits….
I’d say the same about any black person who joined the Klan.
Or the republican party.
Take two…
http://img1.picturewizard.com/1328EA3/1/5-27-2007.jpg
Ya know, Mr. Ego, Terry the Fox, is gonna be really mad if this thread gets more comments than “his” threads.
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 8:46 pm | Permalink
“So you are saying that Gay ministers are mentally ill?”
Did I say that? But thanks for playing anyway.
And now that you mention it, I believe it is called the Stockholm Syndrome, when folks who have been abused identify with their abusers.
If the shoe fits….
I’d say the same about any black person who joined the Klan.
Or the republican party.
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So, by your logic or lack thereof, General Colin Powell is responsible for George Tiller’s murder, because he’s a Republican?
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 8:46 pm | Permalink
“So you are saying that Gay ministers are mentally ill?”
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You really are mentally ill.
You have suggested at least a half a dozen times that religion is mental illness, fundamentals of the Christian faith in particular (Vigin Birth, the Resurrection).
Yet somehow that does not apply to homosexuals of the Christian faith?
You’re a parody of yourself. It’s comical.
“You’re familiar with ego-centricity yes?”
Yes.
You are familiar with compulsive lying? Yes?
‘Cause you know it’s your tenuous grasp of the truth that makes the idea of us taking YOUR word for anything so funny.
In a stomach turning kind of way…
Mothers tell their stories of heartbreaking choices requiring travel to Kansas.
http://www.aheartbreakingchoice.com/kansasstories.html
Stockholm Syndrome,
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Shoot when’s that hag Jeanine Garofolo gonna be on TV again?
We need some more talking points.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 8:44 pm | Permalink
“Show of hands how many of us here are members of Kansans for Life or Operation Rescue?
Mine remains down.”
And we would know this… how?
All we have here is your word.
And given that you think Harvey Milk was an innocent bystander killed by crossfire….
I’m thinking your word AND two bucks will get you coffee.
I guess you dont get that when your word has no value, it has no value?
Deny, deflect, defend.
Like anyone now will ADMIT to being OR.
No one voted for Nixon either…
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I’m not a member of any of those organizations.
Besides, you were too young to have voted for anyone when Nixon was in office.
So stop trying, you’re not very good at this stuff.
“So, by your logic or lack thereof, General Colin Powell is responsible for George Tiller’s murder, because he’s a Republican?”
Twwweeeeeet!
That’s a fifteen yard penalty for reaching.
If that’s what you got from my posts, then you really are comprehension challenged.
I think hooked on phonics can fix that.
You too kia. You could use a few more literacy brain cells as well.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 8:49 pm | Permalink
“You’re familiar with ego-centricity yes?”
Yes.
You are familiar with compulsive lying? Yes?
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Liar? That’s all you got? ROFLMAO.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 8:51 pm | Permalink
“So, by your logic or lack thereof, General Colin Powell is responsible for George Tiller’s murder, because he’s a Republican?”
Twwweeeeeet!
That’s a fifteen yard penalty for reaching.
If that’s what you got from my posts, then you really are comprehension challenged.
I think hooked on phonics can fix that.
You too kia. You could use a few more literacy brain cells as well.
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Sounds like someone wants to have their cake and eat it too.
And then must in turn take blame for the Dahmer murders.
Deflect, deny, defend.
You cant change what happened today. The chickens have come home to roost.
And all your spinning and laughing and trying to shift attention away from you and yours isnt going to work.
The truth can only be denied for a while.
Sooner or later, the truth comes out.
Does Tiller’s killer have a defense fund website yet? Someone should start a defense fund for him/her. Everyone should get a fair trial? Maybe Paul Morrison could be his attorney, he is pretty neat.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 8:55 pm | Permalink
Deflect, deny, defend.
You cant change what happened today. The chickens have come home to roost.
And all your spinning and laughing and trying to shift attention away from you and yours isnt going to work.
The truth can only be denied for a while.
Sooner or later, the truth comes out.
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I’m pretty sure I’m safe on this one.
Along with the vast majority of the 51% of Americans that are pro-life.
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 8:55 pm | Permalink
Deflect, deny, defend.
You cant change what happened today. The chickens have come home to roost.
And all your spinning and laughing and trying to shift attention away from you and yours isnt going to work.
The truth can only be denied for a while.
Sooner or later, the truth comes out.
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Yeah?
I’m ready for the lie detector test.
How about you?
“And then must in turn take blame for the Dahmer murders.”
For those of you scoring at home, that is a poorly executed deflection move on kia’s part.
He gets 2.4 points for typing.
And zero for truth.
Thank you though for your EXCELLENT demonstration of “reaching” again. Reach around is more like it.
I give your “reaching” technique a 9.8
“You cons all have blood on your hands” . . .
ksfrmgrl is a total idiot .. tell that to the thousands upon thousands of babies murdered by the left and George Tiller . . . . what goes around comes around ?? .. no .. I don’t justify what happened .. but I find it a little hard to squeeze a tear .. I’m sure his death was quicker and easies than his myriads of innocent helpless victims over that past 30 years .. May God grant them peace
“Does Tiller’s killer have a defense fund website yet? Someone should start a defense fund for him/her.”
How very christian of you.
Come on daddyboy. Quote us some scripture.
We just havent had enough of that good ol’ time religion today.
And I havent had a fairy tale read to me since I dont know when.
Remind me again… who would Jesus kill?
The Kansas Taliban stick together. Maybe the one they caught should be waterboarded to get his coconspirators.
Please daddy. Read us the story of the talking snake. And the dead guy rising from the grave.
I LOVE a good fairy tale.
Free Tiller’s Killer
That would be a good name for the defense fund.
Any other suggestions?
Tiller was at church? Now that is irony.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 8:57 pm | Permalink
“And then must in turn take blame for the Dahmer murders.”
For those of you scoring at home, that is a poorly executed deflection move on kia’s part.
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It’s the exact same falicy “you and yours” have been using throughout the day.
ALL pro-life Christians are responsible for today’s events correct?
Yeah Phantom. Because ya know there’s a ticking clock a la Jack Bauer and I bet this guy has knowledge of innocent lives that are about to be taken. Just like today.
And since waterboarding isnt torture, I think the protection of the innocents DEMANDS he be waterboarded to get information on other jihadist activities.
j3 = bj
Poor kia. In addition to compulsive lying, he also suffers from the Bigotbawks Syndrome.
Whatever he and his do, it’s always someone ELSE’s fault. And he’d rather blame others than admit the truth.
Denial. It aint just in Egypt anymore….
KFG,
You are really whipped up into a real frenzy tonight.
Boy oh boy.
There is no reasoning with your tantrum of hatred, intolerance, and continued divisiveness.
jjj, you GO boy!
Keep on telling your truth.
Enquiring law enforcement officers want to know more.
The original assassination attempt on Dr. Tiller came eight months into the Clinton presidency. The parallel with today’s offense ought to be obvious: a pro-choice president takes office and the violent extremists go all crazy, whipped up by some of the same right wing radio talkers today as sixteen years ago.
The predictable knee-jerk response from some in the pro-choice majority will be to attempt to demonize and link all Americans that define themselves as “pro life” as aiding and abetting this act of terrorism by having a mere opinion, just as George W. Bush and others attempted to link all oppositional dissent to the attacks of September 11, 2001. And while it is an absolute certainty that the Obama Justice Department will investigate and prosecute this latest crime – and criminal – to the maximum extent of the law, those that want to, like Bush, demonize dissent itself are not going to get much rhetorical backing from the President. His May 17 remarks at Notre Dame are now prescient:
A few days after I won the Democratic nomination, I received an email from a doctor who told me that while he voted for me in the primary, he had a serious concern that might prevent him from voting for me in the general election. He described himself as a Christian who was strongly pro-life, but that’s not what was preventing him from voting for me.
What bothered the doctor was an entry that my campaign staff had posted on my website – an entry that said I would fight “right-wing ideologues who want to take away a woman’s right to choose.” The doctor said that he had assumed I was a reasonable person, but that if I truly believed that every pro-life individual was simply an ideologue who wanted to inflict suffering on women, then I was not very reasonable. He wrote, “I do not ask at this point that you oppose abortion, only that you speak about this issue in fair-minded words.”
Fair-minded words.
After I read the doctor’s letter, I wrote back to him and thanked him. I didn’t change my position, but I did tell my staff to change the words on my website. And I said a prayer that night that I might extend the same presumption of good faith to others that the doctor had extended to me. Because when we do that – when we open our hearts and our minds to those who may not think like we do or believe what we do – that’s when we discover at least the possibility of common ground.
That’s when we begin to say, “Maybe we won’t agree on abortion, but we can still agree that this is a heart-wrenching decision for any woman to make, with both moral and spiritual dimensions.
So let’s work together to reduce the number of women seeking abortions by reducing unintended pregnancies, and making adoption more available, and providing care and support for women who do carry their child to term. Let’s honor the conscience of those who disagree with abortion, and draft a sensible conscience clause, and make sure that all of our health care policies are grounded in clear ethics and sound science, as well as respect for the equality of women.”
Read the whole thing here –
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/terrorism-and-state-lesson-again-right-and-left
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:00 pm | Permalink
Please daddy. Read us the story of the talking snake. And the dead guy rising from the grave.
I LOVE a good fairy tale.
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So did Tiller. You must really hate him, KFG.
“There is no reasoning with your tantrum of hatred, intolerance, and continued divisiveness.”
Should be:
“There is no reasoning with the truth.”
There. Fixed it for you.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:00 pm | Permalink
Please daddy. Read us the story of the talking snake. And the dead guy rising from the grave.
I LOVE a good fairy tale.
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I’m sure this organization can find someone to read to you.
http://gcmwatch.wordpress.com/about/
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:02 pm | Permalink
Yeah Phantom. Because ya know there’s a ticking clock a la Jack Bauer and I bet this guy has knowledge of innocent lives that are about to be taken. Just like today.
And since waterboarding isnt torture, I think the protection of the innocents DEMANDS he be waterboarded to get information on other jihadist activities.
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Now how does it go?
Deflect, deny, defend?
That must be the fifth time Anti has posted disparaging comments about Tiller.
Law enforcement, take note.
“True colors, I see your true colors shining through”
You are an ordinary, garden variety Tiller hater.
Just like the guy who pulled the trigger.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:04 pm | Permalink
Poor kia. In addition to compulsive lying, he also suffers from the Bigotbawks Syndrome.
Whatever he and his do, it’s always someone ELSE’s fault. And he’d rather blame others than admit the truth.
Denial. It aint just in Egypt anymore….
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So that’s a Yes?
The Dahmer victims await your apology.
Police are investigating Internet posts, out of concern for further violent tendencies…
That could be most interesting…
Roeder had to have some sort of information to tip him off that Tiller would be an Usher for today’s Pentecost Festival service. I’m sure the police will be looking for that informant.
Tiring a bit…
Let us let duh Libs wallow in their fake compassion and sorrow as related to George Tiller’s murder.
George Tiller was a Christian, attending his church, when he was murdered.
Why do duh Libs hate him so?
KFG,
The only truth is that your tantrum of hatred and intolerance can’t be reasoned with.
You are so full of hate.
I feel sorry for you. I wish you a happy life and hope that you find peace one day.
“Deflect, deny, defend?”
What did that post deny?
What did that post deflect?
What did that post defend?
Or are you just posting nonsense out yer arse again?
Maybe they’ll take a more serious approach into investigating/intelligence gathering of the RWE threat.
Thank God, bush gave us the tools!
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:08 pm | Permalink
That must be the fifth time Anti has posted disparaging comments about Tiller.
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Well no.
I was mainly droppin’ a deuce on your obvious ignorance.
“You are so full of hate.”
Should be:
“You are so full of truth”.
There. Fixed it for you.
Anti? Would you like me to post ALL the disparaging comments you’ve made today about Tiller?
I’m thinkin law enforcement would appreciate having them aggregated into one post.
Chas
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:09 pm | Permalink
Police are investigating Internet posts, out of concern for further violent tendencies…
That could be most interesting…
Roeder had to have some sort of information to tip him off that Tiller would be an Usher for today’s Pentecost Festival service. I’m sure the police will be looking for that informant.
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Because Merriam is just so far away this guy couldn’t have been stalking his church for a few weeks (as I suggested in this thread at 1:42p) and acting alone.
ksfarmgll
Are you stupid? I don’t want to break him out of jail. He just has a right to defense fund. Even the ACLU would agree.
Go buy some flowers for you hero.
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:12 pm | Permalink
Anti? Would you like me to post ALL the disparaging comments you’ve made today about Tiller?
I’m thinkin law enforcement would appreciate having them aggregated into one post.
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Honestly, I really don’t give a schitt.
You are the one with the Hate problem.
Yes, please DO click on kia’s link.
http://gcmwatch.wordpress.com/about/
And I cant believe you are still posting about Jeffrey Dahmer.
Wait. It’s kia.
Of course I can believe it….
I’ve posted several links to reactions from people on today’s murder of Dr. Tiller.
WE Blog’s CONs would rather attack “ksfarmgrrl” for being gay and non-”christian.”
or hit me with your Ann Coulter doll?
The one with the internal suction or the vibrating… Never mind!
That was an attempt at a joke in case anyone did not get it.
I should not be surprise that this turned into a political debate. Politics is not everything some time even I forget that! Hate speech can insight, the talking head forget that someone is listening to their words and not everyone had the sense to realize it nothing more than to make money. It a act and the talking heads dismiss that they insight people by saying they are just acting.
But the fact remains that a man was killed today for nothing and another man throw away everything he held dear for nothing. It was not about Christianity, pro-life or pro-choice it was about someone who drove himself crazy and found a reason for his insanity in a cause. That cause is not to blame as much as some words simply fix into his insanity. He was already fill with a rage otherwise those words would not have resounded in his mind.
It is impossible to stop someone who already has such rage, there is not one thing or another that drives them. If not for one reason they find another to feed it. For every ten’s of thousands who say that someone should die for what they do. There will always be one who believes enough to carry it out. But it is their rage and they only find a focus if not this person then it would be another. Someone to blame for what they feel is a misfortune in their own lives. Feeling their own lives are so worthless that it does not stop them from acting out. Their rage is truly against themselves and their own life sadly it happens that they also take others with them into their depths of Hell.
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:12 pm | Permalink
Anti? Would you like me to post ALL the disparaging comments you’ve made today about Tiller?
I’m thinkin law enforcement would appreciate having them aggregated into one post.
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I like to see that along with your posts consolidated into one post. The Police need a good laugh.
Unfortunately, there isn’t enough bandwidth on the WE Blog for that much verbose garbage.
“j3 = bj”
Nope Kia.
I’ve only the one nic.
In spite of the circumstances, I am very glad to hear from you kfg.
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Monkeyhawk
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:15 pm | Permalink
I’ve posted several links to reactions from people on today’s murder of Dr. Tiller.
WE Blog’s CONs would rather attack “ksfarmgrrl” for being gay and non-”christian.”
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roflmao!
Yeah, looney toons is here and its name is MonkeyHawk.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:15 pm | Permalink
And I cant believe you are still posting about Jeffrey Dahmer.
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Continue to compare me to a murdered and I’ll return it in kind.
murderer*
jjj, you are SO the voice of reason here.
Please post more.
BlueJay
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:15 pm | Permalink
“j3 = bj”
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I apologize BJ.
The more j3 posts the more I come to believe he/she to be for real. Unfortunately
KFG,
The Cops would read through this thread and find more hate from the left than the right, and you know that.
Your hissy fit has no impact on me.
When’s the party cons?
I KNOW you must have one planned.
Kia, the shark called. He’s tired of you jumping the shark.
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BlueJay
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:20 pm | Permalink
When’s the party cons?
I KNOW you must have one planned.
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It’s at the Country Club.
I hear there is an opening for membership.
“Your constant attempts at being divisive here are unproudctive and serve to only drag down the WE Blog.”—Nathaniel
Right Nathaniel, kfg is the most divisive, repulsive, obnoxious deviant to contaminate the blog, maybe the earth.
It’s fact,
she, it, whatever it is…certainly not a human female, is is so repulsive that it is no wonder it hasn’t been able to maintain a relationship with others, except farm animals.“Your hissy fit has no impact on me.”
I see that. It must be that lack of impact that keeps you obsessed with posting to me about what an evil man Tiller was.
Yeah. Lack of impact. It’s all over you.
“Right Nathaniel, kfg is the most divisive, repulsive, obnoxious deviant to contaminate the blog, maybe the earth.”
I PERSONALLY know more than a dozen posters who would say that about you bawks.
Oh now Reg, shame on you….but oh that’s good if you are just ribbing the pro-death libs.
BlueJay
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:20 pm | Permalink
When’s the party cons?
I KNOW you must have one planned.
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It’s at the Country Club.
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I’m sure you’ll be joining in BJ. We know your disdain for the elite Country Club set.
On that note I’ll be calling it a night.
Vio Con Dios.
What others are saying –
http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=103002&mid=728584#M728584
I see I have no impact on the bigotbawks as well.
That’s why he’s putting on such a fine display of poodle dancing.
No impact. Uh huh. I see it.
“I PERSONALLY know more than a dozen posters who would say that about you bawks.”—BlowJ*b
Good, if they would even consider keeping company with you.
On that note I’ll be calling it a night.
Vio Con Dios.
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Yeah, gotta leave on a high, when I post a good rim shot.
You do have an impact on me kfg, similar to cleaning out a hog wallow.
Dance poodles, Dance!
I cant believe you are winded already!
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:22 pm | Permalink
“Your hissy fit has no impact on me.”
I see that. It must be that lack of impact that keeps you obsessed with posting to me about what an evil man Tiller was.
Yeah. Lack of impact. It’s all over you.
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That was a lame post, I expected more hate from you KFG.
Try hard next time.
We DO know, or should at least assume that the assailant has at some time or another posted here.
Bigotbawks is obsessed with farm animals and gay people.
But he calls himself a christian.
IOKIYAAC
Clean yourself up bawks. Take a shower and get out of the basement once in a while. Real people in real life know me.
You? You are just words on a screen.
Obsession.
“That was a lame post, I expected more hate from you KFG.
Try hard next time.”
You just cant quit me, can you?
That lack of impact I have on you is SO obvious.
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:22 pm | Permalink
“Your hissy fit has no impact on me.”
I see that. It must be that lack of impact that keeps you obsessed with posting to me about what an evil man Tiller was.
Yeah. Lack of impact. It’s all over you.
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BURN!
As I said within a few minutes of Tillers death making the news, it is a terrible thing. Terrible for the family, God Bless Them Now, terrible for Wichita, terrible for humanity in general.
If there is one curiously interesting thing to come of it, it is how it causes the hysterically crazy pro-death libs to go ballistic blaming totally innocent and uninvolved people.
Yes they certainly are ‘dim’ at the very least and psycho probably.
Note to self, remember to ask bawks why he cleans out hog wallows.
Next he’ll tell us he cleans chicken coops as well.
He’s so jealous of me….
ksfarmgrrl
Still waitin’…..I should have packed a lunch.
One positive note.. the Anti-Abortion Movement is now officially dead.
Like those folks across the street from the Old Town Vigil for Tiller displaying the “Your Pastor Is a Wh*r*e” sign”, it’ll be a clown side-show, worse than the discredited Republican Party has become.
And, as I said about the dehumanization that the extremists resort to that turns real people into caricatures and easier to shoot to death or gas.. I only need to quote “It’s fact, she, it, whatever it is…certainly not a human female”
OMG, even when his words remain in black and white, bigotbox thinks he can deny them.
I believe we ALL read your “Tiller got his justice” post.
Why are you backpedaling from your words? Are you not proud of what you write?
We DID have an occasional poster from up that way.
“NoJoCo” wasn’t it?
This WAS the most widely posted and read blog in Kansas. I am almost sure the assailant has been here.
So, why are the liberals here on the blog and not out mouring the death of Dr Tiller?
Instead they seemed to be more consumed with picking a fight with the conservatives here.
Very telling.
You liberals are using this tragic event to further your own intolerance and hatred instead of actually mouring the loss of Dr Tiller.
“Real people in real life know me.
You? You are just words on a screen.”
And those “real people in real life” from your own admission dumped you!
It’s plain to see why.
Anti, what are you waiting for?
Another post from me?
Like I said, the lack of impact my posts have on you is very clear.
They are so insignificant you are waiting for more?
hahahahahahahhahha
You might want to talk to Helen Waite.
KFG, even that douche BlueJay has better post than you.
You have bored me with your hate. I will check in tomorrow for your response.
Oh yeah. Dumped me. That’s why I have so many friends on this blog.
And you?
Nevermind.
You are just words on a screen.
But please carry on. We are amused, and we do encourage you to poodle dance again.
Real soon.
“You? You are just words on a screen.”
PROBABLY why he was askeered to meet little old me.
Who are ya really bawksy? Nathaniel? Hank? Regular?
ksfarmgrrl ( stands w/ fists )
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:34 pm | Permalink
Anti, what are you waiting for?
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An impeller for my boat motor.
“I believe we ALL read your “Tiller got his justice” post.”—resident repulsive queer
And a liar to boot. Never said I thought that, I said that there is an old saying that one that “lives by the sword, dies by the sword” and that it was something to think about.
Maybe you should too kfg.
“You have bored me with your hate. I will check in tomorrow for your response.”
Hee hee hee.
Anti is so unaffected by my posts that he’s already planning tonight to be here tommorow to read more of them.
Now THAT’s funny.
I have no idea what you want me to respond to.
But I think my posting has the same effect on you as telling a blond in a round room to pee in the corners.
Drives ya crazy, doesnt it?
Oh, but my posts have no impact on you.
funny
So, who’ll be OR’s next target? Organizations, once they lose their original function, quickly adopt another one in order to continue their existence. I’m guessing Planned Parenthood.
Thanks for the friggin grief counseling
Oh, but my posts have no impact on you.-KFG
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I dunno, you’re the one with the long post in response to mine.
And the liberals continue to use this tragedy to further their own hatred and intolerance.
What a shame.
Instead of simply mouring on this tragic day, they choose to turn it into their own personal beating stick for some cheap political points on a blog.
Congratulations liberals.
Where is Parkay when his favorite subject is topic of the day/year?
Maybe had so much on the OR website he’s half way to Mexico by now.
BlowJ*b, I made a fool of you….no I allowed you to again make a fool of yourself.
You standing in a parking lot in the middle of winter looking around at every car to pull through guessing if it was me, by your own admission. Again by your own post, standing until you had to go to the bathroom, probably peed your pants first, and then going home still not knowing you’d been punked.
Me, drinking hot coffee, getting my car serviced and laughing my butt off at how stupid you are.
Sleep well sugar tits.
Let the record show bigotbawks is now threatening me.
“I said that there is an old saying that one that “lives by the sword, dies by the sword” and that it was something to think about.
Maybe you should too kfg.”
So bigotbawks, are you the one who’s going to deliver MY justice to me? Like your boy Roeder did today?
You said previously that you had visited my town, asked about me at the medical facilities in the region, and you know me and where I am.
And now you threaten me?
Stupid and mean.
Law enforcement, take note. Bone dig to follow.
In light of this attack and murder, it may be time for the Eagle to take some action.
I think “parkay” should be banned. It is just his sort of posts that gin people up.
BlueJay,
Spitting in someones face is battery. It is illegal. Here you are threatening to committ battery against my father.
Very nice…
BlueJay,
You should be banned, for threatening illegal battery against my father.
Ok, now this is funny.
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ANTI
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:41 pm | Permalink
Oh, but my posts have no impact on you.-KFG
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I dunno, you’re the one with the long post in response to mine.”
Real slow for ya Mr. Killing Machine.
YOU said YOU were NOT impacted by my posts. And then you continue to respond to every one, and indeed, are begging for more.
And you want to now turn that on me?
Please repost where I said something similar.
nitwit
Have another drink Dude. It might IMPROVE your reading comprehension.
Your father has accosted me in public Nathaniel.
He advertised earlier his intention to do so again.
BlueJay,
I see you continue with the threats.
“And get charged with assault you dumb/ass.”
So… bigotbawks is now not only a less than one third owner of a failing medical supply company, but he’s also a lawyer?
Who knew?
It’s not a threat to tell a nut to keep his distance Nathaniel.
BlueJay,
Unfortunately, being “accosted” as you were, is not illegal.
Again you lie lie lie. It that all you are capable of?
I never said anything like that. I travel the whole state and I would no more care to get within a county of you if I knew it and could help it, as I consider you diseased.
And again I made no threat, I say in general to all that it is said, “those that live by the sword die by the sword” and that all should consider it.
Go ahead make a further fool of yourself and make accusations different to that.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:46 pm | Permalink
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Another long post.
I believe she is sweet on me.
“In light of this attack and murder, it may be time for the Eagle to take some action.”
Oh, I’m QUITE sure they’ve already been doing the mother of all bone digs for a loooong time today.
Cant wait for some of these posts and posters to get a little scrutiny.
Of course, it could be just one wingnut using multiple nics.
In which case the search warrant will be served shortly.
“KansasJackass” found this tidbit on ChargeTiller.com –
Scott Roeder
Mon September 03, 2007, 10:49:40
” It seems as though what is happening in Kansas could be compared to the “lawlessness” which is spoken of in the Bible. Tiller is the concentration camp “Mengele” of our day and needs to be stopped before he and those who protect him bring judgement upon our nation.”
heheheh.
Gee, “roach”. That voice sounds awfully familiar.
Another obsessed con.
They just cant quit me.
I’m telling you. I bet the guy has posted here.
“Monkeyhawk
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:51 pm | Permalink
“KansasJackass” found this tidbit on ChargeTiller.com –”
Damn, that sounds like it could have come directly from the wingnuts here, no?
I think this blog will prove VERY fruitful for law enforcement.
The company I am 1/3rd partner in is doing just fine chicken farmer, thanks for your concern.
Payroll, of which I write my own checks, was just fine. I’d love to tell you too, just to turn your jealous stomach, but it’s not polite in public or wise either.
My money is on pleef or parkay.
Or any of the christianist terrorists here.
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
you dumb/ass
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Why do you guys keep posting back to the farmers girl? She seems to have all you salviating over responding to her “princess”.
Take a deep breath everyone and look what you are giving HER. She is unapproachable. She is unresponsive to common sense. She is set in her little world but came forth tonight for all you cons to show admiration to her being.
Is that really what you guys want?
Ignore her. Her girlfriend must have left her.
Do not feed the l*sbian troll.
And her posts tonight meet only that definition.
Wow!
You can post dumb/ass.
But in todays liberal world, you canNOT post
the word L-E-S-B-I-A-N.
“The company I am 1/3rd partner in is doing just fine”
Words on a screen. Cybertalk. Not grounded in fact, and bigotbawks has no one here who can vouch for “him” as a flesh and blood person.
I own ten thousand acres. Really. I do.
You just have to take my word for it.
Big eye roll.
Remember, on the internet, no one knows you are a dog.
Except for law enforcement doing bone digs on cons who make threats.
The Biggest Threat to CONs today –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiL8OaQqC7E&feature=player_embedded
It would be fun to use listening to Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Reilly, Cheney….
Try it folks.
Try posting the evil “L-E-S-B-I-A-N” word and see what happens.
Then post dumb/ass.
Ain’t that somefin?
Roach, stop, yer killin’ me with laughter.
Know the truth man, and the truth will set you free.
George Tiller was murdered, in his church, by a white, christian, male, militia joinin’, gun totin’, bomb making right wing religious wacko.
Thems the facts boy. All the kings horses and all the kings men will never put humpty, er, the christianist movement, back together again.
Deal with it. Or not. You too could deny, deflect and defend.
Or not. You’re a roach.
You could just scurry across the floor and leave a trail of your own poop.
It’s what roaches do, ya know.
RoaCH
Posted May 31, 2009 at 10:00 pm | Permalink
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
RoaCH
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:58 pm | Permalink
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
l*sbian
See? It’s like L-E-S-B-I-A-N is the nig*er of the decade!
The cons will only continue to devolve to violence as their role in government shrinks.
We will need to better know them in order to aid law enforcement.
Poor oppressed roach. He cant post the l word, and he’s being discriminated against because of it.
pobracito
“I think this blog will prove VERY fruitful for law enforcement.”—the powerless chicken farmer
Is the only way you can find some satisfaction in your miserable life is to lie to yourself?
What has anyone said that is not simply free speech, maybe a little degrading, but still free speech.
I don’t take anything any of the pro-death crowd spewers as worth anything more than spittle.
And there have been NO threats from the pro-life crowd or the ‘Cons’ as you put it.
You simply make a bigger fool of yourself than you already have….if that’s possible.
George Tiller 5/2009
Barnet Slepian 10/1998
Robert Sanderson 1/1998
Shannon Lowney 12/1994
Leanne Nichols 12/1994
John Bayard Britton 7/1994
James H. Barrett 7/1994
David Gunn 3/1993
RoaCH
Posted May 31, 2009 at 10:02 pm | Permalink
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
p*ssy licker
If this one goes, we know we have a communist plot here.
“The cons will only continue to devolve to violence as their role in government shrinks.
We will need to better know them in order to aid law enforcement.”
I think a few bone digs are in order.
Just to save time for law enforcement.
Correction:
George Tiller 5/2009
Barnett Slepian 10/1998
Robert Sanderson 1/1998
Shannon Lowney 12/1994
Leanne Nichols 12/1994
John Bayard Britton 7/1994
James H. Barrett 7/1994
David Gunn 3/1993
Yep, it’s a communist plot to undermind the religious folk of America.
We must acknowledge L-E-S-B-I-A-N’s and pretend Gawd Almighty accepts them as married folk too.
P*ssy Liquors must be able to feel they are a valued and contributing part of society. Does’t matter if they shovel pig sheat and clean chicken coups.
We must all pretend that they are in the bible as bonerfide married folk.
BlueJay,
You are the one threatening assault/battery against my father on a public forum.
“And there have been NO threats from the pro-life crowd or the ‘Cons’ as you put it.”
I smell fear.
Face it bawks. You threatened me. Remember? And you have almost a year of posts to me to back up that threat. And you yourself claim to have been “asking around” about me. The medical community here isnt that big. So… either you are going to be shown to be a liar, or a threat. I think “stalking” would be appropriate to call it. By your own words, you vistied my town and were looking for information about me.
And then you post threats.
Bright boy.
I bet when the investigation starts, the IRS would like a look at that company of yours.
Ya know, once the investigation of the bigotbox is open, it’s hard to put the lid back on.
The cons will only continue to devolve to violence as their role in government shrinks
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I doubt their role will sink as low as your 2% max of homosexual Americans.
From the Price home movie collection –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knbyKGta3hQ&feature=related
A relative of mine just received a collection notice for a medical device that was received yrs. ago, and for which no regular bill was ever issued.
So now my relative must check with the insurance company and see if they ever receiced a claim, or made payment.
Makes sense now.
“RoaCH
Posted May 31, 2009 at 10:06 pm”
How VERY christian of you.
Roeder is proud of you.
Face it bawks.
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Feed her boxlock20. That is exactly what this lonely woman on a chicken farm needs.
If you don’t feed her, she will shrivel up like a grape and raisin away.
DNFTLT
Roach is just giving LESSONS on hate speech here.
Law enforcement, take note.
I think it is in the cons best defense to hold their own posters accountable.
I know the names of several con posters here. Unless and until it can be proven otherwise?
I’m gonna have to think that any con poster I have not met personally is just another nic for one I have. I’ll TRY to be judicious. But I will need their help.
Seeing as how folks on their side are domestic terrorists and all.
BlueJay,
Next time I see you, I am going to walk right up to you.
Please…. PLEASE spit in my face.
The mitigating circumstances of such will go a long way towards excusing my actions after you do.
I agree JR. I think there is one wingnut making posts with multiple nics.
Even if law enforcement doesnt care, Phillip should.
I wonder if bigotbawks, roach, et al will have to find new nics after yet ANOTHER banning?
Maybe someone will even pretend to have a stroke!
“BlueJay,
You are the one threatening assault/battery against my father on a public forum.”
Nathaniel Price, your father has accosted me twice uninvited and has advertised here today his intention to do so again given the opportunity.
He has also posted that he carries a gun in case he needs to kill someone.
The sign is very clearly out. I consider both you and your father a threat against my life. I seek no personal contact with you. You are warned to stay away.
“The mitigating circumstances of such will go a long way towards excusing my actions after you do.”
Hmmm. Sounds like a defense of murder.
I’m sure the killer will say that it was justifiable homicide because, ya know, Tiller’s occupation was a mitigating circumstance.
See what I mean about cons ALWAYS blaming someone else for their behaviors?
Mitigating factors for your actions?
You are not responsible for what YOU do? heheheh.
Culture of personal responsibility indeed.
Almost like saying if you live by the sword, you die by the sword?
BlueJay,
“accosting” someone is not illegal. Your warnings carry no legal weight.
However, your threat to spit in my fathers face is illegal and doing so is as well.
“Next time I see you, I am going to walk right up to you.”
Are you stalking me?
I seek no contact with you or any member of yuor family. IF we encounter, you will clearly be seeking it.
““Next time I see you, I am going to walk right up to you.”
You will only see me if you come looking for me.
I believe you just announced that intention.
KFG,
0 for 2 I see.
First you can’t get the definition of Hypocrite correct and now you butcher what mitigating cirucmstances means…
Perhaps you should call it a night.
Political_mama
Posted May 31, 2009 at 2:19 pm | Permalink
And I do feel as I did the day we were struck by the terrorists in the 911 attacks. It isn’t on the same massive scale, no, but this was a man who represented freedom for American women.
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Isn’t this overstating things a bit?
I wonder how many nics Nathaniel and Hank Price are responsible for.
Scott P. Roeder:
Anti-tax… anti-government… anti-abortion… deeply religious… pro-militia…
Authorities might also want to check out nics held by James McCluer.
“Face it bawks. You threatened me. Remember?”—lessie
Prove that or shut the hell up you liar. You aren’t even very good at lying chicken farmin lessie. Show one single post or reference to wanting to know anything more about you than I unfortunately do already just from your repulsive posts here.
And that is a challenge for all to read here, put up or shut up and get back in your sh/itty chicken coup.
“Anti-tax… anti-government… anti-abortion… deeply religious… pro-militia…”
Sounds like most of the cons here. This is going to take a while for law enforcement to sort out.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted May 31, 2009 at 9:51 pm | Permalink
“In light of this attack and murder, it may be time for the Eagle to take some action.”
Oh, I’m QUITE sure they’ve already been doing the mother of all bone digs for a loooong time today.
Cant wait for some of these posts and posters to get a little scrutiny.
Of course, it could be just one wingnut using multiple nics.
In which case the search warrant will be served shortly.
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The Radical Leftist has returned.
Maybe all those former patients are the ones who are most upset.
“BlueJay” –
Don’t worry about “Nathaniel’s” father ever actually doing what he promises.
I have first-hand experiences of him flaking out.
I even encouraged him to bring The Boy along to our twice-scheduled lunch meet-up, knowing full well that’d put me in a potential cross-fire.
They both wimped out.
Chas
Posted May 31, 2009 at 2:22 pm | Permalink
I would highly recommend to Dr. Tiller’s family, that they not publicize the time/place of the Funeral Service, but rather limit it to familyh, close friends, and a short list of specially elected individuals.
There can be a more public memorial event at a later date.
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Chas is now all of a sudden OPPOSED to posting an obituary.
Funny Chas.
So bigotbawks, are you denying that you said, right here, that you had been in WaKeeney, Quinter, Hill City, etc. and asked around the medical community about me?
Really? Gonna deny it?
And then telling me that I need to “think about” how Tiller lived by the sword and then died by the sword?
That’s not threatening me?
We’ll see.
Been here sometime happy juice.
If I get banned it will because you cannot stand on your own two feet. Everyone else is not so special.
But along comes the l*sboobies demanding SPECIAL attention, and you never know what will happen.
Go cry to the editor. That would fit your type.
weak
Pro-lifers have for many years begged, pleaded, and demanded justice for criminal abortionist quack Tiller’s flagrant violations of state laws and medicals regulations that exploited and put at risk thousands of mothers – begged, pleaded, and demanded from a criminal justice system full of lawmakers, prosecutors, and judges bought off with Tiller’s blood money. They wanted Tiller’s legal prosecution, conviction, and execution, with ample opportunity for his repentance before meeting the Maker he never knew in this life, and regret today’s illegal shooting at his apostate church, just as they would regret an illegal mangling, dismembering, poisoning, or beheading of anyone.
But pro-lifers will not regret the birth of the many babies who would else have soon been profitably dead.
- – -
Yes, I did indeed at one time picket Tiller’s criminal, unsafe abortion mill.
Proud to.
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DavidB
Posted May 31, 2009 at 2:30 pm | Permalink
heehe.. it’s okay, we been trained and armed by ACORN!!!! With their billions of federal funds…
But these assassinations in churches in Iraq and America are getting tiresome……
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Tiresome assinations in churches? How many?
Political_mama
Posted May 31, 2009 at 2:38 pm | Permalink
Its true. The antis were pushing a woman with a cane off the curb at the protests, i’ve seen so much nasty behavior there its unreal.
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Right.
Got a photo, or you just imfaming your gang some more?
Editors?
I encourage you to search your own archive.
The poster “parkay” is responsible for rhetoric that encouraged a murder.
BAN him.
Geez, I can smell the fear from roachie all the way out here.
Now who is it, that without this blog, would have no life at all.
Hmmm.. Let me think.
On second thought, I dont think it’s fear I smell from roach.
I think it’s the pant load that was caused by the fear that is stinking.
Dance poodle, dance.
Geez, you can almost HEAR the whine in his voice.
You just cant quit me can you?
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You are fly to me. Hardly worth batting away.
But I do enjoy revealing your innerself to other posters so they can see the real you. You are begging for attention, and apparently be degrading, humiliating, and abusing other posters is how you get your kicks.
No go whine and cry to the editor. Everyone was fine with posting until you came along. Please review the last oh say two weeks or two months of postings to confirm.
Go cry now. Get those big alligator tears rolling. Take Kleenex box along.
Must suck to only be able to survive by reporting and banning other posters.
weak
Pedant
Posted May 31, 2009 at 3:03 pm | Permalink
Dr Tiller’s wife was singing in the choir when her husband was murdered. I just can’t wrap my head around how sick his murderer must be.
This is a tragic day for all of America, for all concerned.
Again, all condolences to the Tiller family, and to friends.
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Why is THIS murder more significant then the other 15,000 murders in the last year?
Editors?
I have been known for asking that the blog settle its own disputes with as little interference or policing as possible.
I volunteer to meet “Roach” and vet his or her identity. I have met more posters than any other blogger here.
Mary Machos,
the weaker sex, will cry to the editor because her race cannot survive without help from others.
Threats of “banning” (ewwww) have not been seen for ages on this blog.
Wonder why now? Cannot stand on her own posts? Needs a little help. Affirmative Action is dead.
So let’s diversity a little bit.
DavidB
Posted May 31, 2009 at 4:41 pm | Permalink
In the U.S., violence directed toward abortion providers has killed at least 7 people, including 3 doctors, 2 clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort.[4]
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Compared to how many millions of babies killed?
“So bigotbawks, are you denying that you said, right here, that you had been in WaKeeney, Quinter, Hill City,”
I’ve been to or through all those towns, it’s my job, and I couldn’t care less about you sl/ut. Except maybe staying far away from your stink. I would imagine though you do have quite an extensive medical history, mostly needing antibiotics for one reason or another….guess.
Everyone needs to think about that biblical axiom I posted….everyone. That’s no threat and you know it, but you are a consummate liar.
“Live by the sword, die by the sword” is a metaphorical expression meaning that living one’s life in a certain way will, in the end, affect one’s destiny. The proverb comes from the Book of Matthew, verse 26:52.
You should read and study it lessie, and the rest of the Book too.
“In the U.S., violence directed toward abortion providers has killed at least 7 people, including 3 doctors, 2 clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort.[4]”
At least 8, actually.
“Compared to how many millions of babies killed?”
And this sort of rhetoric is why.
I volunteer also to meet “JimJohnson”.
Posters here need some sort of vetting from other posters in order to protect the Eagle from complicity in con violence.
Funny stuff.
“You are fly to me. Hardly worth batting away.”
Uh huh.
That’s why you’ve been continually posting TO ME for the last hour or more.
Hardly worth batting away.
But definately worth posting to for over an hour while telling other posters not to post to me.
Damn. Ya just cant make this stuff UP!
Sounds like someone knows he will be banned tomorrow.
And it’s all my fault for what he posted.
Typical con.
I can bring him to his knees with the touch of a send button.
The “third gender” apparently is too weak to stand on their own posts.
Whine and cry baby.
BlueJay
Posted May 31, 2009 at 10:35 pm | Permalink
Editors?
I encourage you to search your own archive.
The poster “parkay” is responsible for rhetoric that encouraged a murder.
BAN him.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Ban Free Speech!
Heil!
F
U
Our resident Bean flicker is apparently back. She is definately the angry L-E-S-B-I-A-N. Just like the angry libs, her posts tonight reflect only the same.
Very sad.
DNFTLT
BlueJay
Posted May 31, 2009 at 10:42 pm | Permalink
I volunteer also to meet “JimJohnson”.
Posters here need some sort of vetting from other posters in order to protect the Eagle from complicity in con violence.
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You’re infatuation and stalking cannot be granted because of the murder of one man.
Sorry BJ. Go pound, well, sand.
So roach is posting obscenity, bigotbawks is denying his comments about stalking me, jim johnson or max or whoever he is today is saying Tiller got what he deserved because he performed legal medical proceedures.
All in all, a day the cons will look back upon proudly.
If any are left standing after today.
Maybe the We will just shut this place down.
And you cons can go post at godhatesfags.com.
Cause ya know, one group to murder is as good as another.
Babies murdered. Tiller the Killer (posted multiple times on this blog), etc.
Is it really any wonder that someone acted on the rhetoric?
And not one (of at least 8) of the people killed because of their association with abortion clinics was killed by a “victim of a botched abortion” or “an enemy within the abortion industryR