Open thread 5/28

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  1. Heckler
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 6:14 am | Permalink

    On Sotomayor-

    snip
    “This isn’t a jurisprudence that the Founders would recognize, but it is the creative view that has dominated the law schools since the 1970s and from which both the President and Judge Sotomayor emerged. In the President’s now-famous word, judging should be shaped by “empathy” as much or more than by reason. In this sense, Judge Sotomayor would be a thoroughly modern Justice, one for whom the law is a voyage of personal identity.”

    snip
    We quote at such length because, even more than her opinions, these words are a guide to Ms. Sotomayor’s likely behavior on the High Court. She is a judge steeped in the legal school of identity politics.

    snip (and this is the real issue with lefty judges)

    The danger inherent in this judicial view is that the law isn’t what the Constitution says but whatever the judge in the “richness” of her experience comes to believe it should be.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124338457658756731.html

  2. Regular
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 7:42 am | Permalink

    On this date, May 28th, record setting temperatures for Wichita Kansas

    High: 96 °F (1974)
    Low: 39 °F (1947)

  3. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 7:48 am | Permalink

    “Personnel Management Director John Berry said on Wednesday that he will pursue a significant reform of the civil service system within the next two years. In addition to reforming the pay system, Berry said his longer-term goals include increasing the diversity of the federal workforce.” GovExec magazine

    Now just how is he going to increase diversity?
    I thought racial quota’s was deemed unconstitutional?

    I thought Affirmative Action as thrown out by the courts?

    Racial profiling is A.O.K., as long as it’s “good” for the race?

    I guess this Supreme Court nomination will greatly aid Obama bring back racial discrimination in the workplace.

    Nothing like promoting one’s own race.

  4. SolDevVB
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:10 am | Permalink

    Your wallet:

    The 1st place Democrats are willing to drill.

  5. SolDevVB
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:10 am | Permalink

    This is America.

    You don’t redistribute wealth,

    you earn it.

  6. SolDevVB
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:11 am | Permalink

    Vote Democrat.

    It’s easier than working.

  7. SolDevVB
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:12 am | Permalink

    When all you liberal nuts have to start sharing your paycheck, remember you elected him.

    Oh wiat, that’s right, you have no check to share.

  8. okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:20 am | Permalink

    You guys are treading in dangerous waters. Capn, WS and Daniel got so mad yesterday when I posted the truth about Sotomayor that they went into full attack mode on me. I thought it was very funny.

    It was a bad day in libland and Hecklers post points out once again how flawed this potential justice is.

    She will be on the court I am sure but we will see many cases like the one Heckler posted about decided in opposition to the Constitution.

  9. Boxlock20
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:39 am | Permalink

    test

  10. Boxlock20
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:45 am | Permalink

    Another example proving him to be the totally incompetent partisan little dictator he is the the Dimocrats have put in office to destroy this country.
    This is a crime!

    Furor grows over partisan car dealer closings
    By: Mark Tapscott
    Editorial Page Editor
    05/27/09 3:37 PM EDT

    “Evidence appears to be mounting that the Obama administration has systematically targeted for closing Chrysler dealers who contributed to Repubicans.” What started earlier this week as mainly a rumbling on the Right side of the Blogosphere has gathered some steam today with revelations that among the dealers being shut down are a GOP congressman and closing of competitors to a dealership chain partly owned by former Clinton White House chief of staff Mack McLarty.

    The basic issue raised here is this: How do we account for the fact millions of dollars were contributed to GOP candidates by Chrysler who are being closed by the government, but only one has been found so far that is being closed that contributed to the Obama campaign in 2008?

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Furor-grows-over-partisan-car-dealer-closings-46261447.html

  11. BlueJay
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:51 am | Permalink

    What’s THIS?

    Former adversaries David Boise and Ted Olson (Bush v. Gore) are allied and bringing suit against California’s Prop 8!

    Olson seems to know which way the wind is blowing and wants to be on the side of and in the notation of ground breaking jurisprudence?

  12. BlueJay
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:52 am | Permalink

    http://video.aol.ca/video-detail/joining-forces-to-fight-prop-8/3181268985/?icid=VIDLRVNWS06

  13. BlueJay
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:00 am | Permalink

    Prop 8, by way of explanation, was California’s vote to “preserve” marriage as between a man and a woman. The California Supreme Court just two days ago reaffirming that and so giving the cons and other folks with nose trouble a fleeting victory.

    No doubt their full squeaking wrath will fall now on Ted Olson, former solicitor general of the george bush administration.

  14. Heckler
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:07 am | Permalink

    “Evidence appears to be mounting that the Obama administration has systematically targeted for closing Chrysler dealers who contributed to Repubicans.”

    Evidence of a bunch of Fascist power freaks in control.

    And if you called Obama a Fascist before the election it was “name calling”. Now we have dozens of examples to cite. It can no longer be “name calling”.

  15. Heckler
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    I’ve noticed that a few of the more rational Dem/Leftists that used to hang out around here seem to be gone.

    Could it be that they realize their mistake in supporting the Fascist Obama? And are to embarrassed to come here and admit it?

    One

    Big

    Arse

    Mistake

    America

  16. okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    So Jr do you think that the defense attorneys that defended the Carr brothers believed they were innocent and should be released? Or were they just doing a job?

  17. cosmos_originally
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    Melting Greenland Ice Sheets May Threaten Northeast United States, Canada
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090527121055.htm

  18. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    <b“Evidence appears to be mounting that the Obama administration has systematically targeted for closing Chrysler dealers who contributed to Repubicans.”

    If this is true, someone should be hung. If true and nothing is done about it, then the USA is truly gone as long suspected.

  19. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    I’m sorry to inform you that although you were the best qualified candidate for the job, you were not selected due the quota system. I less qualified minority candidate was selected in your place. We understand that the recession is hard on everyone, but we must promote based upon skin color, not qualifications.

    Please feel free to apply again in six months.

    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/open-thread-528-2/comment-page-1/#comment-581912

  20. Boxlock20
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:35 am | Permalink

    “Evidence appears to be mounting that the Obama administration has systematically targeted for closing Chrysler dealers who contributed to Repubicans.”

    I hope it’s true….if so it should be considered an impeachable offense.

    Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution, states:
    “The President, Vice President, and all civil Officers of the United States shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

    “The founding fathers thought impeachment to be a “heroic medicine, an extreme remedy,” as Lord Bryce later called it. They were not looking for a weapon to punish small transgressions. But what should be done if, as Benjamin Franklin asked during the Constitutional Convention, a President “rendered himself obnoxious”? To Alexander Hamilton, the most persuasive apostle of a strong Chief Executive, impeachment was the answer—the ultimate device for checking power in a democracy. In Hamilton’s words, it was “a method of National Inquest into the conduct of public men,” to be conducted by “the inquisitors for the nation” in Congress.

    Treason and bribery, it was readily agreed during the debate on the Constitution, would be obvious grounds for impeaching a President. What else? “Abusing his power,” Edmund Randolph of Virginia suggested. James Madison favored protection against “incapacity, negligence or perfidy in the chief magistrate.” But when George Mason proposed adding “maladministration” to treason and bribery, Madison thought the word “so vague as to be equivalent to a tenure during the pleasure of the Senate.” Borrowing a catchall phrase from English usage, Mason thereupon substituted “high crimes and misdemeanors.” Without debate, this phrase became part of the Constitution.”

  21. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:38 am | Permalink

    “if so it should be considered an impeachable offense.”

    I’m in agreement, but it isn’t going very far with a democrat controlled congress. The bill would never see the light of day.

  22. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:39 am | Permalink

    Well the evidence I’ve heard is Chrysler executives target dealerships that sold a lot of PT-Cruisers, which most certainly must be a Crime Against Humanity.

  23. Heckler
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    Monkey”boy” says “target dealerships that sold a lot of PT-Cruisers”

    Why does Chrysler hate gays.

  24. Boxlock20
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:15 am | Permalink

    “I’m in agreement, but it isn’t going very far with a democrat controlled congress. The bill would never see the light of day.”

    American_Way,
    It would be my hope that even the imbecile Dimocrats in Congress would realize little Barry is destroying the very essence of the U.S. in a fascist way.

  25. writerdog
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    THE BLIND MEN AND THE ELEPHANT

    John Godfrey Saxe’s ( 1816-1887) version of the famous Indian legend,

    It was six men of Indostan
    To learning much inclined,
    Who went to see the Elephant
    (Though all of them were blind),
    That each by observation
    Might satisfy his mind.

    The First approach’d the Elephant,
    And happening to fall
    Against his broad and sturdy side,
    At once began to bawl:
    “God bless me! but the Elephant
    Is very like a wall!”

    The Second, feeling of the tusk,
    Cried, -”Ho! what have we here
    So very round and smooth and sharp?
    To me ’tis mighty clear
    This wonder of an Elephant
    Is very like a spear!”

    The Third approached the animal,
    And happening to take
    The squirming trunk within his hands,
    Thus boldly up and spake:
    “I see,” quoth he, “the Elephant
    Is very like a snake!”

    The Fourth reached out his eager hand,
    And felt about the knee.
    “What most this wondrous beast is like
    Is mighty plain,” quoth he,
    “‘Tis clear enough the Elephant
    Is very like a tree!”

    The Fifth, who chanced to touch the ear,
    Said: “E’en the blindest man
    Can tell what this resembles most;
    Deny the fact who can,
    This marvel of an Elephant
    Is very like a fan!”

    The Sixth no sooner had begun
    About the beast to grope,
    Then, seizing on the swinging tail
    That fell within his scope,
    “I see,” quoth he, “the Elephant
    Is very like a rope!”

    And so these men of Indostan
    Disputed loud and long,
    Each in his own opinion
    Exceeding stiff and strong,
    Though each was partly in the right,
    And all were in the wrong!

    MORAL.

    So oft in theologic wars,
    The disputants, I ween,
    Rail on in utter ignorance
    Of what each other mean,
    And prate about an Elephant
    Not one of them has seen!

  26. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    Boxlock, I do not for one minute believe that the democrats in Congress would EVER go so far as to remove their own president. The powers being garnered by the new American government, are going to be reserved FOR the democrats.

    I don’t think they would fight against anything that gives them more power to rule.

    I do not believe congress has ethic or moral standards above whale sh*t.

  27. Daniel
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:20 am | Permalink

    You guys are treading in dangerous waters. Capn, WS and Daniel got so mad yesterday when I posted the truth about Sotomayor that they went into full attack mode on me. I thought it was very funny.
    ===============================================

    Please provide a link to any post I made yesterday in which I attacked you. Otherwise…

    http://img1.picturewizard.com/1328EA0/0/okobserver.jpg

  28. Daniel
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Are you guys talking impeachment already? What for?

  29. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    Fishing and fun at O.K. Kids Day this Saturday

    WICHITA – Kids can learn water safety, how to fish and the craft of bow and arrow at the annual O.K. Kids Day Saturday at Watson Park, 3022 S. McLean Blvd.

    The event runs from 9 a.m. to noon and is intended for kids ages 5-12. It also includes pony rides, volleyball and miniature golf.

    Fishing poles and bait are provided for the fishing clinic, and the city urges people to arrive early to register.

    For more information, call Watson Park at 316-529-9940.

  30. Boxlock20
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    “I do not believe congress has ethic or moral standards above whale sh*t.”

    American_Way,
    I agree, I am sorry to say.
    Now I got’a run, I just found a small amount of ammo, which is practically non-existent, don’t want it to get away.

  31. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    Anti, are you going to be teaching or will you be the bait?

  32. okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:48 am | Permalink

    Daniel
    Posted May 27, 2009 at 6:36 pm | Permalink
    #
    okobserver
    Posted May 27, 2009 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

    Daniel I could be wrong but I think 50% is failing also.
    ==============================================

    2006 Term….the Court reversed 75.6% of the cases it heard.

    http://www.scotusblog.com/movabletype/archives/MemoOT06.pdf

    The bottom line is that her reversal rate at 50% or 60% is significantly better than the overall reversal rate for the SCOTUS.

    Better find a new talking point.

    ———
    Daniel
    Posted May 27, 2009 at 6:41 pm | Permalink
    #
    CapnAmerica
    Posted May 27, 2009 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    Daniel–

    See above.

    If you’re waiting for oko to admit being wrong, you’ll be here until the Cubs win the World Series . . .
    ==============================================

    I know. Just thought I’d offer her some food for thought.

    ————–
    Daniel once again your own posts just proved my point. I left then so am not sure how long you and the good Capn kept this up.

    And BTW 50% is a failing grade in school or the courts. Not sure what your point was.

  33. Heckler
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    Comment seen on the intertubes-

    Judge Sotomayor claims that a Latina judge can come to a better judgment than a white male because of her life experience. Using her logic wouldn’t a jurist who has been a parent have better insights on matters like abortion, marriage and divorce than a woman like Sotomayor who has never been married or given birth to a child?

  34. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    Why get be prepared? The gubermint will bail them out.

    “Many Americans who live in Gulf and Atlantic Coast states are not prepared for an active 2009 hurricane season, despite being slammed last year, a new Mason-Dixon poll found.

    More than half those surveyed, 66 percent, said they don’t have a hurricane survival kit and 62 percent said they don’t feel vulnerable to a hurricane or related tornado or flooding.

    A majority of them, 83 percent, said they haven’t done anything in the past year to make their houses more hurricane-resistant, according to the poll.”

  35. Heckler
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    Lets see if I have this straight. The .gov is going to own 70% of GM. Which means that they will own Onstar.

    Y’all trust the Fascist Obama admin not to abuse it?

  36. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    “Obama: Economy Is ‘Back From the Brink’”

    “Mortgage Delinquencies Hit Record High”

    A record 12 percent of homeowners with a mortgage are behind on their payments or in foreclosure as the housing crisis spreads to borrowers with good credit. And the wave of foreclosures isn’t expected to crest until the end of next year, the Mortgage Bankers Association said Thursday.

    Dog gone it Mortgage Bankers Assoc…! Didn’t you get the Obama directive?

  37. okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    Daniel whereforth aren’t thou? Did Capn give the retreat email?

  38. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    What will Obama Do? (WWOD)

    SEOUL, South Korea — South Korean and U.S. troops facing North Korea boosted their alert level Thursday to the highest category since 2006, after the communist regime threatened military strikes on allied troops in escalating tensions over its nuclear test.

    North Korea threatened Wednesday to attack any U.S. and South Korean ships that try to intercept its vessels and renounced a 1953 truce halting the Korean War fighting”

    “North Korea will have to pay a price for its aggressive actions, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Wednesday”

    Obama says, “O.K., now don’t cross this line.” “Now this line…”

  39. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    “Heckler” posits –

    “”…The .gov is going to own 70% of GM. Which means that they will own Onstar.

    Y’all trust the Fascist Obama admin not to abuse it?”

    OMG!

    This means Sasha Obama’s alarm clock will go off next time you drive your truck into a ditch!

    Y’know. “Fascism.”

    You CONs had a less-stupid argument yesterday when you were claiming Puerto Rican black beans and rice would make Sofia (or, in the case of Huckabee, “Maria”) Sotomayor release Charlie Manson and Omar Abdel-Rahman into your neighborhood kindergarten.

    Jeez.

    At least a raindrop really fell on the first Chicken Little’s head.

  40. XXX
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    Boxlock20
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:45 am | Permalink

    “Evidence appears to be mounting that the Obama administration has systematically targeted for closing Chrysler dealers who contributed to Repubicans.”
    _____________________________

    Hogwash! Please Cons, tell me you’re not gullable enough to believe that.

  41. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    I wonder why the union doesn’t want to be the bad guy and release the information? Could it be because THEY agreed to it?

    “DETROIT — A person briefed on General Motors Corp.’s plans says the company on Monday will identify the 14 factories it will close as it heads toward an a likely Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection filing.

    The person says United Auto Workers officials in Detroit have told plant-level union leaders that the company will make the announcement, not the union.” Fox

    More factories closing under Obama – worst president ever.

  42. XXX
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    News Flash!

    Obama may have been involved in planning 9/11!
    (or he may not have been).

  43. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    “At least a raindrop really fell on the first Chicken Little’s head.”

    Jeez Monkeyhawk, at least get the story right.

    It was an acorn.

  44. XXX
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    News Flash!

    Some sources indicate that Obama piloted one of the planes that crashed into the WTC!
    (or maybe not)

  45. XXX
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:09 pm | Permalink

    Really, Really true News Flash!

    Obama has WMDs!

  46. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    “Obama has WMDs!”

    As long as O’bama doesn’t let his close friend and terrorist William Ayers play with them I think we will be o.k..

  47. XXX
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    News Flash!

    Obama was seen channeling with Stalin!
    (by exactly nobody)

  48. XXX
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    News Flash!

    Obama plans to take control of the country!
    (oh, wait a minute…)

  49. XXX
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    “Hogwash! Please Cons, tell me you’re not gullable enough to believe that.”

    The silence is deafening…

  50. Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    Here’s one of the prime motivators for continued violence against the US in Iraq and Afghanistan:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/5395830/Abu-Ghraib-abuse-photos-show-rape.html

    Abu Ghraib abuse photos ’show rape’

    Photographs of alleged prisoner abuse which Barack Obama is attempting to censor include images of apparent rape and sexual abuse, it has emerged.

    By Duncan Gardham, Security Correspondent and Paul Cruickshank 28 May 2009

    At least one picture shows an American soldier apparently raping a female prisoner while another is said to show a male translator raping a male detainee.

    Further photographs are said to depict sexual assaults on prisoners with objects including a truncheon, wire and a phosphorescent tube.

    Another apparently shows a female prisoner having her clothing forcibly removed to expose her breasts.

    Detail of the content emerged from Major General Antonio Taguba, the former army officer who conducted an inquiry into the Abu Ghraib jail in Iraq.

    Allegations of rape and abuse were included in his 2004 report but the fact there were photographs was never revealed. He has now confirmed their existence in an interview with the Daily Telegraph.

    The graphic nature of some of the images may explain the US President’s attempts to block the release of an estimated 2,000 photographs from prisons in Iraq and Afghanistan despite an earlier promise to allow them to be published.

    Maj Gen Taguba, who retired in January 2007, said he supported the President’s decision, adding: “These pictures show torture, abuse, rape and every indecency.

    ******

    Your tax dollars at work, CONs. Enjoy reaping what you have sown . . .

  51. Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

    Sy Hersch reported that his sources told him of the systematic rape of children and that he heard audio tape of children screaming while being raped.

    Heigh ho . . . at least we aren’t, you know, terrorists or anything . . .

  52. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    Florida Rep. Vern Buchanan learned from a House colleague that his Venice, Florida, dealership is on the hit list.

    Also fueling the controversy is the fact the RLJ-McCarty-Landers chain of Arkansas and Missouri dealerships aren’t being closed, but many of their local competitors are being eliminated. Go here for a detailed look at this situation. McClarty is the former Clinton senior aide. The “J” is Robert Johnson, founder of the Black Entertainment Television, a heavy Democratic contributor.

    White House car czar Steven Rattner is married to Maureen White, the former national finance chairman of the Democratic National Committee (head of democratic fundraising).

  53. Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    Looks like Saddam Hussein’s “rape rooms” weren’t closed down after all . . . they just came under new management.

  54. Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    AmWay–

    1100 dealerships were closed. No doubt some of them supported CONs.

    You got nuthin’.

  55. okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    Capn were the people at Abu Graib punished? Has anyone one this blog said they shouldn’t have been? Do we know bad things happened there?

    1. Yes
    2. No
    3. Yes

    Why stir the water when we have honorable military members in dangerous places? What purpose will it serve?

  56. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    “Here’s one of the prime motivators for continued violence against the US in Iraq and Afghanistan:”

    Still waiting for your proof of that statement.

    Are you really going to tell me that if we didn’t have prison photo’s showing abuse – the Al Queda and Taliban who have sworn death to America, wouldn’t be so mad at us?

    You have made one statement, posted info about photo’s, and tried to tie the two together.

    It ain’t stickin’.

  57. Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    Hey, wait a minute.

    Are you saying that Chrysler (owner) shouldn’t have say so in who it fires (workers)?

    So the owner MUST keep workers who disagree with his values?

    Hmmm . . . interesting.

  58. Regular
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    #
    CapnAmerica
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    Looks like Saddam Hussein’s “rape rooms” weren’t closed down after all . . . they just came under new management.
    —————————–
    What’s your point?

    If the photographic evidence is there, then any military member should be Courts Martialed and the civilian tried in the appropriate court.

    This is on an indictment of the entire military.

    Once again the Capn shows his irrational fear, hate through his philosophy of apostasy.

  59. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    “You got nuthin’.”

    I didn’t post it Capn (initially). I did respond to it. But XXX (and now you) make it sound like a total dream. It “may” be proven untrue, but there “are” lot’s of details which indicate the potential for abuse is there.

    Imagine if it was republics on the serving side.

    This is why government intervention in business is so dangerous. It’s not always just misconduct – it’s the perception of it. How do you guard America against abuse?

  60. Regular
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    This is on an indictment of the entire military.

    should be

    This is not an indictment of the entire military.

  61. Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

    So AmWay now admits that every kind of torture was done in our name but only quibbles on the effect of that torture.

    Real nice.

    BTW, the cause and effect is on it’s way. Googling . . .

  62. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    “So the owner MUST keep workers who disagree with his values?”

    I didn’t say that or imply that. Perhaps you are posting to someone else.

  63. okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    Amway if you expect Capn to admit he is wrong you have a long wait.

    Would this be the same Sy Hersh who has a running attack machine against Cheney? Capn you have nothing.

  64. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    “So AmWay now admits that every kind of torture was done in our name but only quibbles on the effect of that torture.”

    Capn this must be your day for putting words in other posters mouths.

    PROVE the “PHOTO’s” caused violence. Provide examples. Provide statements. Provide anything.

    Else continue to spout.

  65. Regular
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

    The Capn doesn’t realize how much of a clown he makes himself appear when he posts stuff like that.

    The Capn is the Pfeefer of Lib world.

  66. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

    “So AmWay now admits that every kind of torture was done in our name ”

    Provide a link to my post saying the above Capn.

  67. Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/torture/top-senate-republican-appears-to-admit-that-torture-helps-al-qaeda-recruitment/

    Who thinks the torture leads to Al Qaeda recruitment?

    Republican Senator Kit Bond:

    “In the course of attacking Obama’s decision to release the torture memos, GOP Senator Kit Bond appears to have admitted that the image of the U.S. torturing terror suspects actually helps terror recruitment and hurts our national security — one of the principle arguments of torture opponents.

    “Check out this nugget buried in an interview Bond, the ranking Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee, gave to ABC’s George Stephanopoulos:

    Bond believes the administration “released far too much information,” adding that he thinks Al Qaeda will use this information to train their followers to resist interrogation and that it will provide “propaganda for Al Qaeda’s media machine.”

    Bottom line: Bond believes this release will “make us less safe and “heighten anger” in parts of the world “where we’re trying to make friends.”

  68. okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    “Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh dropped a bombshell on Tuesday when he told an audience at the University of Minnesota that the military was running an “executive assassination ring” throughout the Bush years which reported directly to former Vice President Dick Cheney.”

    Capn would that be the same Sy Hersh who ‘accidently’ dropped this ‘bombshell’.

    You are so gullible.

  69. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    “The Capn doesn’t realize how much of a clown he makes himself appear when he posts stuff like that.”

    He reminds of JMWalker. Just spouts off about things no one even said. But then takes his assumption to the next level and comes up with a conclusion.

    Weird.

  70. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    Your post and link still do not support your statement:

    “Here’s one of the prime motivators for continued violence against the US in Iraq and Afghanistan:”

    GO fish.

  71. Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Former VP Dick Cheney has requested the release of additional memos showing that torture and abuse saved American lives by preventing terrorist attacks. If the Obama Administration decides to release these memos, then I suggest they also release statistics from Iraq showing the number of foreign fighters that were recruited because of our policy of torture and abuse. It was tracked. I know because I saw the slides and because I heard captured foreign fighters state this day in and day out.

    The government can also release the statistics that show that 90% of suicide bombers in Iraq were these same foreign fighters. These foreign fighters killed hundreds, if not thousands, of American soldiers

    by Matthew Alexander

    Matthew Alexander spent fourteen years in the U.S. Air Force and Air Force Reserves. An “investigator turned interrogator” who deployed to Iraq in 2006, he conducted more than 300 interrogations and supervised more than 1,000. Alexander was awarded the Bronze Star Medal for his achievements in leading the the team that located Abu Musab alZarqawi, the leader of Al Qaida in Iraq, who was killed by Coalition Forces. He is the author of How to Break a Terrorist: The U.S.Interrogators Who Used Brains, Not Brutality, to Take Down the Deadliest Man in Iraq.

  72. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:46 pm | Permalink

    “he thinks Al Qaeda will use this information to train their followers to resist interrogation”

    CapnAmerica question:

    1. Training followers (who already are followers who have sworn death to the Evil Satan America).

    2. To resist interrogation

    Does not make them a “motivator for continued violence”

    In fact, it favors NOT releasing information because EXISTING TERRORISTS WILL GET SMARTER!!!

  73. Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:46 pm | Permalink

    CONservative US Senators, former Senior Interrogators and the President of the United States all link torture to increased Al Qaeda recruitment and violence against Americans.

    In CON Bizzarro World however this means nothing . . . “prove it” they demand when all the evidence is on your side . . .

  74. okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    “appears to have admitted” Capn this is a weasel line which puts words not spoken in the mouths of interviewees. Boy you are desperate today. Another bad day in libland?

  75. brian_nuevo
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    “okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:32 pm | Permalink
    ..Why stir the water when we have honorable military members in dangerous places? What purpose will it serve?”

    The best purposes – protecting the honor and integrity of the United States of America.

    (BTW your argument about military members in dangerous places is a red herring. There are always military members in dangerous places. There were even military members in dangerous places when you wanted Pelosi investigated.)

  76. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    “Enjoy reaping what you have sown . . .”

    Yeah, those darn democrats who ran congress for the last two years sure did screw up! They sat in on the intelligence briefings nodding their heads and never said a darn thing!

    Now they want to blame it all on the president. You sheep are so easy to lead. Just like Bush caused the Iraq War. The dims who voted AYE have you guys over a barrel.

  77. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    “So AmWay now admits that every kind of torture was done in our name ”

    Provide a link to my post saying the above Capn.

  78. Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    Contrary to CON lies, the Senate did NOT get the same information that the Bush Administration had.

    They got the cherry-picked version, the ones with all the objections left out.

    They never would have supported Bush’s war and methods had they seen how the so-called evidence had been gathered (google “curveball”) and all the information that had been left out.

  79. okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    Brian while I certainly agree that we always have military members in dangerous places I think I missed the point you are making here.

    Are you saying that letting Pelosi lie without any recourse will make our military safer?

  80. Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

    At least you CONs are having to admit that we Invaders and Occupiers of Iraq engaged in real torture . . . not as the RoundMoundofSound called it: “frat house pranks.”

    That’s a start.

  81. Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    Brian, while I certainly agree that we always have military members in dangerous places I think I missed the point you are making here.

    Heh, when God asked “what kind of brain do you want,” OKO thought He said “train” so she said, “make it a slow one . . . ”

    Some things are just impossible, Brian.

  82. okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    Well Capn I googled curveball and found it is a game that looks like fun. It is a kind of breaking pitch used in baseball.

    While interesting I can’t see a connection with what the congress were briefed on. You really are having a bad day.

  83. okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    Capn when you can’t base your arguments on facts then you resort to nonsense and think you are accomplishing something.

    More productive things to do than dialogue with a lightweight.

  84. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:42 am | Permalink
    Anti, are you going to be teaching or will you be the bait?
    ============================

    Unfortunately neither. Weekends are my money makers. Today would have been but I had a puker in the boat early this morning.

  85. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    “Capn when you can’t base your arguments on facts then you resort to nonsense and think you are accomplishing something.”

    It is not very attractive watching the Capn squirm.

    I get annoyed when he changes what I posted to his own end. But when I see others address the same issues with Capn I feel better.

  86. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Glad for your post on kids fishing. Not a finer place to have fund and bond with your own kids, adopted kids, foster kids, or just a kid without a fishing parent than fishing.

    Catching fish is just the icing on the cake. Although from my own humble experience, when I took my oldest daughter, she wasn’t inclinded to go again after getting skunked. I learned a lesson too that day.

  87. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    she wasn’t inclinded to go again after getting skunked
    ===================

    Ha! The evil goose is my fishing enemy! I can’t count the times I have walked around a bend and met a momma goose and her babies…..Momma geese are mean.

  88. Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    Well Capn I googled curveball and found it is a game that looks like fun. It is a kind of breaking pitch used in baseball.

    Mein Gott in Himmel!

    You can’t make this stuff up. It’s like the mechanic who’s furiously working to pick the lock the passenger side door after successfully unlocking the driver’s side . . .

  89. Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/01/60minutes/main3440577.shtml

    (CBS) Did Saddam Hussein have weapons of mass destruction? No, he did not. We’ve known that for some time now. So where did the intelligence come from that he was building up his arsenal? Fantastically, the most compelling part came from one obscure Iraqi defector who came in and out of history like a comet. His code name, ironically, was “Curve Ball” and his information became the pillar of the case Colin Powell made to the United Nations before the war. Who is Curve Ball and how did he fool the world’s elite intelligence agencies?

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Intelligence_Commission

    One of the main and crucial intelligence sources for the case for regime change in Iraq was an informant named Curveball.[1] Curveball had never been interviewed by American intelligence until after the war and was instead handled exclusively by the German Intelligence Agencies. An October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate that concluded Iraq “has” biological weapons was “based almost exclusively on information obtained” from Curveball, according to the report.

  90. Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/01/60minutes/main3440577.shtml

    (CBS) Did Saddam Hussein have weapons of mass destruction? No, he did not. We’ve known that for some time now. So where did the intelligence come from that he was building up his arsenal? Fantastically, the most compelling part came from one obscure Iraqi defector who came in and out of history like a comet. His code name, ironically, was “Curve Ball” and his information became the pillar of the case Colin Powell made to the United Nations before the war. Who is Curve Ball and how did he fool the world’s elite intelligence agencies?

  91. Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Intelligence_Commission

    One of the main and crucial intelligence sources for the case for regime change in Iraq was an informant named Curveball.[1] Curveball had never been interviewed by American intelligence until after the war and was instead handled exclusively by the German Intelligence Agencies. An October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate that concluded Iraq “has” biological weapons was “based almost exclusively on information obtained” from Curveball, according to the report.

  92. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Iraq was an informant named Curveball
    =====================================

    Little known fact: Curveball is the second most popular Muslim name, Mohammad being the first.

  93. Regular
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    Umm Capn, Bush isn’t President anymore…you’re wasting your time posting old stuff.

  94. Regular
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    #
    ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Iraq was an informant named Curveball
    =====================================

    Little known fact: Curveball is the second most popular Muslim name, Mohammad being the first.
    —————————–
    And with the hip hop culture of Islam it is:

    AbraJam

  95. Daniel
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    #
    okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    Daniel whereforth aren’t thou? Did Capn give the retreat email?
    ==============================================

    I’m back and I’ve only given my e-mail to one poster on this blog and that was fleetwood.

    I really don’t see anything that constitutes an attack. You must be quite the delicate flower.

    With the reversal rate…..I’ll try one more time.
    The SCOTUS reverses roughly 75% of the cases that it reviews each session. A reversal means that the the SCOTUS disagrees with the lower court’s decision. Therefore, a lower reversal rate is a good thing. In this case it’s like golf where a lower score is better than a higher score. The lower the number of cases that the SCOTUS disagrees with, the lower the reversal rate is.

    Sotomayor’s reversal rate before the SCOTUS is only 60%. 60 is less than 75 which means that her reversal rate before the SCOTUS is better than the average reversal rate for all cases that the SCOTUS decides to hear.

    BTW….do you know what Justice Alito’s reversal rate was with the SCOTUS before he joined the court?

    Hint: It was higher than Sotomayor’s.

    Should Alito been confirmed by the Senate?

  96. Daniel
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    Unfortunately neither. Weekends are my money makers. Today would have been but I had a puker in the boat early this morning.
    =========================================

    Did you at least offer the poor b@stard a nip of the hair of the dog that bit him?

  97. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Did you at least offer the poor b@stard a nip of the hair of the dog that bit him?
    ====================================

    No, it was a kid. I suppose his father would have enjoyed a drink after the kid spewed.

  98. Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    And Powell was told to his face the information was solid, when those telling him knew it was not. Other intelligence agencies (the Brits, as I recall) had cast ‘Curveball’ as totally unreliable and a drunkard, but this was kept form General Powell.

    What kind of low-lifes would do this to a member of their own team?

  99. Daniel
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    So, what’d the kid have for breakfast?

  100. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    So, what’d the kid have for breakfast?
    =========================================

    My guess was eggs and orange juice…I about lost my breakfast during the clean-up.

  101. Daniel
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    That has always been my weakness in the child-rearing department. Any kid that pukes in my general vicinity is usually setting off a chain reaction.

  102. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    Luckily he aimed mostly out of the boat.

    He was having a rough morning.

  103. okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    Capn I didn’t say who curveball was or wasn’t. I said it was a game that looked like fun and a breaking pitch in baseball. This was the only referendce on an entire page of google entries.

    Your info is so old it is no longer relevant to google.

    What does this tell you?

  104. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    The SCOTUS gets about 80,000 petitions and considers only about 8,000 worthy of considering cert.

    That’s 1%, for those of you CONs counting with your fingers.

    Every case that makes it to the full SCOTUS is controversial, even if it’s determined to not merit full SCOTUS review.

    Of those 8,000 cases, the SCOTUS determines which 150 cases are worthy of review.

    The rest of the cases, mostly from the Court of Appeals, stand as decided.

    So it sounds as if Maria Sofia Sotomayro’s 13 years on the Court of Appeals has resulted in about 1 case every 2 years considered contentious enough to make it to “The Show.”

    Half the time, her position as been affirmed by the most conservative SCOTUS in the history of the public. The other cases were decided by 5-4 votes.

    So obviously she’s a communist.

    C’mon, CONs.

    It’s as if you’re not even trying anymore.

  105. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    Daniel
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:51 pm | Permalink
    That has always been my weakness in the child-rearing department.
    ==============================

    Doesn’t bother me, unless I smell it and I did today.

  106. KSGolfnut
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    From FoxNews:

    Pastor David Jones and his wife Mary have been told that they cannot invite friends to their San Diego, Calif. home for a bible study — unless they are willing to pay tens of thousands of dollars to San Diego County.

    “On Good Friday we had an employee from San Diego County come to our house, and inform us that the bible study that we were having was a religious assembly, and in violation of the code in the county.” David Jones told FOX News.

    “We told them this is not really a religious assembly — this is just a bible study with friends. We have a meal, we pray, that was all,” Jones said.

    A few days later, the couple received a written warning that cited “unlawful use of land,” ordering them to either “stop religious assembly or apply for a major use permit,” the couple’s attorney Dean Broyles told San Diego news station 10News.

    But the major use permit could cost the Jones’ thousands of dollars just to have a few friends over.

    For David and Mary Jones, it’s about more than a question of money.

    “The government may not prohibit the free exercise of religion,” Broyles told FOX News. “I believe that our Founding Fathers would roll over in their grave if they saw that here in the year 2009, a pastor and his wife are being told that they cannot hold a simple bible study in their own home.”
    ———————

    Surely the ACLU will step right up and defend these folks and there civil liberty of religion. Right?

  107. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    The CONs are now obsessing on vomit.

    Pretty much a typical day on WE Blog.

  108. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    “The CONs are now obsessing on vomit.”

    Much better than obsessing on another man getting dressed.

  109. KSGolfnut
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    errr… their*

  110. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    Hey YOU posted it! I can’t make this stuff up!

  111. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:56 pm | Permalink
    The CONs are now obsessing on vomit.
    ======================================

    Poop is tomorrow, Monkeyhawk.

  112. KSGolfnut
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    Much better than obsessing on another man getting dressed.”

    Or on blow-up dolls.

  113. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    Maria Sofia Sonia, whatever.

  114. KSGolfnut
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    Uhh…8,000 out of 80,000 is 10%

  115. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    Maria Sofia Sonia, whatever.
    =============================

    Are you talking about Sanchomayo?

  116. KSGolfnut
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    It’s certainly entertaining when a pejorative statement like: “for those of you CONs counting with your fingers.” comes back around to bite the poster.

  117. Regular
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    #
    ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:56 pm | Permalink
    The CONs are now obsessing on vomit.
    ======================================

    Poop is tomorrow, Monkeyhawk.
    =============================
    dammet, I thought today was poop day!

    (tosses plastic bag in the corner)

  118. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    “Are you talking about Sanchomayo?”

    I think so. Been trying to follow Monkeyhawks post, but he keeps getting the first name mixed up and now I’m wondering about the last…

  119. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    dammet, I thought today was poop day!

    (tosses plastic bag in the corner)

    ===========================================

    Looks like someone’s getting leftovers!

  120. Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    “Surely the ACLU will step right up and defend these folks and there civil liberty of religion. Right?”

    On the surface, it seems the ACLU perhaps should consider looking into this incident. I have a few friends on the CA ACLU Board… I will drop them a line…

  121. Regular
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Hey Chas,you need a work out at the gym. Call Monkeyhawk up and arrange a date.

    p.s. Bring your boxers and suspenders for MH’s viewing pleasure.

  122. Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    RE: Supreme Court Nominee >>>>

    The name of the new Nominee to the SCOTUS is: SONIA Not Maria or the other BS that has been posted…

    Her LAST name is: SOTOMAYOR

    Oh yea, Our President is OBAMA
    not O’Bama…

    You all think maybe you can get it right for a change?? Hmmmm???

  123. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if O’Bama will get Sonya Sonchomeia through the process.

  124. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    Hey Chas talk to Monkeyhawk about Sofia. Not me.

  125. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    “I wonder if O’Bama will get Sonya Sonchomeia through the process.”

    Anti of course O’bama will get her through it.
    The dims own both houses of congress and O’bama could never change his mind about something that O’bama himself already decided.

    It’s just a matter of getting the repukes to stick their necks out and get them chopped for the benefit of the hispanic vote that’s left. O’bama’s a lot of things, but O’bama is NOT stupid. (but Bush had better test scores in college).

  126. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    Anti of course O’bama will get her through it.
    ==============================================

    So what you’re saying is that Sandy Sotomy will be on the SCOTUS due to Borat O’Bamas’ sheepish followers?

  127. Daniel
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    KSGolfnut,

    The story you posted about the couple in San Diego is a little light on details.

    How many people are showing up for these Bible Study sessions? How frequently are these sessions held? Is there adequate street parking available to accommodate their guests? What are the zoning restrictions in their neighborhood? How was the county made aware that these sessions were taking place? Did neighbors complain?

    Someone should contact the ACLU and alert them to this situation…I’d wager that they would at least investigate to determine whether or not the Constitutional rights of this couple are being violated.

  128. okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    Daniel sounds like a job for a good investigative reporter. We will probably see this tonight on NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC with all of the pertinent details.

  129. okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    I forgot CNN.

  130. Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    Puerto Rican Music sounds nothing like the mis-termed Mexican polka music described on the Blog a couple of days ago… Puerto Rican Music is a mixture of African and Puerto Rican, Cuban, and what is termed Spanish ‘Salsa’ music…

    Ms. SOTOMAYOR is not a Hispanic, so much, as she is Latina.

    She COULD be termed Hispanic, since Puerto Rico is at the southern end of the Greater Antilles, or Hispaniola…

    http://aris.ss.uci.edu/rgarfias/courses/latino/pr1.html

    It serves NO useful function to throwe around poor definitive terms for the woman, or for her heritage.

  131. Daniel
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    okobserver,

    I’d respond to the substance(?) of your post but you would probably feel like you were being ‘attacked’ so I won’t.

  132. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    Puerto Rican Music is a mixture of African and Puerto Rican, Cuban, and what is termed Spanish ‘Salsa’ music…
    ——————————

    I hear they like to sing through megaphones.
    (Dave Chappelle)

  133. Regular
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:50 pm | Permalink

    #
    Daniel
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    okobserver,

    I’d respond to the substance(?) of your post but you would probably feel like you were being ‘attacked’ so I won’t.
    ———————
    Buffon

  134. george
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    Our socialist government owns most of GM now. There will be more government industries to come.
    http://www.nypost.com/seven/05282009/postopinion/editorials/uncle_sam__incorporated_171335.htm

  135. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    Our socialist government owns most of GM now.
    ==============================================

    I suppose our cars will only work some of the time now.

  136. Posted May 28, 2009 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 2:22 pm | Permalink
    Hey Chas talk to Monkeyhawk about Sofia. Not me.
    =======================================

    You sure about that??

    American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:59 pm | Permalink
    Maria Sofia Sonia, whatever.
    ====================================

    Looks to me l ike you dont care if you get it right or not… Wow…

  137. Posted May 28, 2009 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    The Reality on the Street of the Bush “Give the Rich Everything They Want” Recession–

    From a blogger in Iowa:

    Today was nice. There were many neighbors out watering flowers, mowing the lawn and trimming bushes. We all waved and said hello and stopped to chat–and get reacquainted after the long winter.

    The small talk quickly turned to a discussion about the economy. It was as if we were all dying to talk about our situations and one by one–we shared our stories.

    Quite frankly, I was shocked. Everything looks so normal and consistent on our street. The sidewalks are peppered with children riding bikes and scooters. Riding lawn mowers still hum through the yards on the weekend. There are no “foreclosure property” signs dotting the front yards. No major layoffs have been announced at large employers in the area. Everyone leaves early in the morning and returns from work at dinner time.

    Things may look the same, but they are not the same.

    My neighbor to the left is in heavy-equipment sales, and his salary is mainly commission. He divulged, to our small circle, that his salary has been cut in half and so has his 401k. The woman two houses down runs a daycare out of her home. She watches children for double-income earners. Half of the children she used to watch, are now home with one unemployed parent who is looking for work. Her income has been halved as well. I shared with our neighbors that my husband was forced to take a $1,000 per month pay cut back in January, with no end in sight.

    We’re not statistics. Our situations won’t show up in the unemployment numbers. We’re the hidden statistics; with each of our families profoundly impacted by this economy. We all stopped most non-discretionary spending and we’re saving every nickel. We’re all trying to make up for lost income, decimated 401ks, disintegrated college funds and retirement plans that have been indefinitely shelved.

    You won’t hear about my next-door neighbor, or the woman down the street or my family–but we’re out there. There are millions of hidden statistics just like us–trying to survive what has happened and hoping to hold on to what we have as the future unfolds.

  138. Posted May 28, 2009 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    Thank God, Dick Cheney is doing well though . . .

    In 1970 the gap between the top 100 CEOs’ average pay and the pay of average workers was 45 to 1 ($296,170 to $6,542), reflecting the restraints of lingering New Deal financial controls and mores. As those controls weakened, the gap increased to 127 to 1 by 1980. As deregulation, tax cuts, and the union bashing of the Reagan era took hold, the gap jumped to 321 to 1 by 1990. In 2000, as “financial innovation” pumped up fantasy finance, the ratio of CEO pay to the average workers’ pay hit an obscene level of 1,510 to 1. And then by 2006, at the height of the fantasy finance boom, it climbed to a whopping 1,723 to 1 ($50,877,450 to $29,529). The financial sector soaked up trillions of dollars of wealth accumulated by the very rich, while average real wages remained stagnant.

  139. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    Didn’t O’Bama make over 3 million last year?

    Rich bast@rd!

  140. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    BTW Dick Cheney gave around 3/4 of his income to charity last year.

    What did O’Bama give?

  141. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    BTW Dick Cheney gave around 3/4 of his income to charity last year.
    =====================

    Ooops, 2005 not last year.

  142. Posted May 28, 2009 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    “This complete separation of the judiciary from the enterprise of “representative government” might have some truth in those countries where judges neither make law themselves nor set aside the laws enacted by the legislature. It is not a true picture of the American system.

    Not only do state-court judges possess the power to “make” common law, but they have the immense power to shape the States’ constitutions as well.”

  143. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    Chas do you really take yourself serious?

    “Ms. SOTOMAYOR is not a Hispanic, so much, as she is Latina.

    She COULD be termed Hispanic, since Puerto Rico is at the southern end of the Greater Antilles, or Hispaniola…

    It serves NO useful function to throwe around poor definitive terms for the woman, or for her heritage.”

  144. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    “Looks to me l ike you dont care if you get it right or not… Wow…”

    Looks to me like you don’t read much Chas..

  145. parkay
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

    The University of Wisconsin will be committing late-term abortions at the Madison Surgery Center, and the staff will be forced into participating in heinous late-term abortion and in follow-up care for botched abortion victims [=enabling abortion mill profits], according to an email sent Wednesday from UWMF Executive Director Pete Christman to various UW officials.
    Pro-lifers are promoting a boycott of the Madison Surgery Center.
    - – -

    Pro-lifers are opposing a bill in the Tennessee legislature that would allow state judges to be named by a special panel. In 2000, the leftist, activist, baby-hating Tennessee Supreme Court discovered 4-1 that the state constitution allows unlimited abortions, striking down numerous pro-life restrictions in state law, which had been enacted by elected lawmakers to limit the number of abortions. Pro-lifers are fed up with judges being secretly appointed by unaccountable pro-abortion bar association lawyers in the Judicial Selection Commission, who are not representative of Tennessee voters.
    - – -

    Kissimmee, FL first-grader Gina Incandela, 7, got a yelling ovation for her fifth rendition of the national anthem at an Orlando Magic game Tuesday. Every time she sings the national anthem before a game, the Magic win.
    The girl is autistic, didn’t speak until age 3, and learned to talk through music therapy. She is one of those Obamanation thinks are not worth the trouble and expense of birthing and then medical care and therapy, or helping to survive in a botched abortion.
    - – -

    A 17-year-old girl, 7 months pregnant, paid Arron Harrison, of Naples, UT $150 to beat her up to cause a miscarriage, after her boyfriend threatened a break up if she didn’t get rid of her viable baby. The baby survived the assault, Harrison is charged with attempted murder, and the girl is locked up in juvenile hall, charged in juvenile court with criminal solicitation to commit murder.
    No word on whether a judge might sentence the boyfriend, who might be a redneck, to a beating for coercing an attempted illegal abortion.

  146. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    I have to share this brilliant, and thought provoking post from another thread from our own CapnAmerica. I am sure this will be on World News Tonight. Perhaps CNN, and possibly even Fox:

    “They’re usually poor because they don’t have the money”
    -CapnAmerica

  147. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    “They’re usually poor because they don’t have the money”
    -CapnAmerica

  148. Posted May 28, 2009 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    LOL, Parkay! I love your joke posts! ” leftist, activist, baby-hating ”

    So cute. I know they are parodies designed to make the abortion prohibitionists look silly and they always break me up!!!

  149. American_Way
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    break you up?
    Crack?

  150. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    Think you’re tough?

    73 year old badass!

    http://www.badassoftheweek.com/mmburugu.html

  151. george
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

    Pelosi does not belong in China. Rush on a roll here

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_052809/content/01125104.guest.html

  152. okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

    CapnAmerica
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 4:11 pm | Permalink
    The Reality on the Street of the Bush “Give the Rich Everything They Want” Recession–
    ———–
    Cap when can we expect Obama to step and act like a prez. He has spent trillions and what do we have to show for it. Small businesses dying on the vine. Families losing homes. Hundreds of thousand jobs going away. Oil and therefore gas on the way up.

    And all you can do is blame the recession on Bush. That is a given. We were in a recession when Obama took the reins just as we were when Bush took the reins. There the similarities end.

    By the 4th qrt of his first year Bush through targeted tax cuts and incentives to business had turned the economy around.

    When do you see this happening with Obama the worst prez ever in my opinion.

    Give it your best shot Cap. Bush is back in Texas. Obama is in charge and all he can do is spend, spend, spend.

  153. Boxlock20
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 7:44 pm | Permalink

    Interesting question:

    “What happens when we can use abortion to weed out the blind, mentally ill,the ugly, or any other any “undesirable” human being?
    If you oppose selective abortions, but not
    abortion overall, I wonder why?”

    — David Harsanyi, Denver Post staff columnist

  154. Pedant
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 7:36 pm | Permalink
    We were in a recession when Obama took the reins just as we were when Bush took the reins.

    The economy was not in recession when Bush was inaugurated.

    Why can’t you people grow up and own your problems?

  155. Daniel
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:01 pm | Permalink

    Pedant,

    You need to quit attacking that dear, sweet lady. She’s a very delicate flower.

  156. lindainks55
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    bush the lesser was in office almost a full fourteen months after the current recession began in December of 2007.

    President Obama has been in office for four months.

  157. okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:33 pm | Permalink

    Phantom as I said yesterday people lie but facts dont.

    Be in denial as much as you want to be but these are the facts.

    “National financial records show that the lastest budget year prior to Clinton (9/30/1992) actually had a debt of $4.06 trillion rather than $3 trillion.

    However, when Clinton left office he left a debt of $5.67 trillion (9/30/2000). Rather than eliminating (which would be impossible for any eight-year period), he grew the debt by 39.6 percent instead of reducing it as the left likes to claim.

    The dems want to give credit to the Clintons for the late 1990s, they ignore the recession that the Clintons left. From the high quarterly gdp growth of 6.4 percent in early 2000, the last two quarters of 2000 were -.5% and 2.1%. And then Clinton’s final gift to the new president was a 1.4 percent decline in GDP for first quarter 2001. Not to mention a DOW down 8 percent and the Nasdaq down 46 percent in 2000, Clinton’s last full year in office.

    Recession are very defined and recognizable. So deny, deny, deny. You just can’t change the facts.”

    Bad day in libland.

  158. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    lindainks55,

    I hope you are not getting all milky.

    Your O’Bama worship is blinding.

  159. Regular
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    Clinton’s recession:

    Clinton’s Chairman Of Council Of Economic Advisors, Joseph Stiglitz, Said Recession Started During Clinton’s Tenure. “It would be nice for us veterans of the Clinton Administration if we could simply blame mismanagement by President George W. Bush’s economic team for this seemingly sudden turnaround in the economy, which coincided so closely with its taking charge. But … the economy was slipping into recession even before Bush took office, and the corporate scandals that are rocking America began much earlier.” (Joseph Stiglitz, “The Roaring Nineties,” The Atlantic Monthly, 10/02)

    There you have it, Clinton’s chief economic adviser setting the record straight and correcting the lies of duh Libs.

  160. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

    BTW, Linda go make me a sandwich!

  161. okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:43 pm | Permalink

    Pedant and Phantom I’m not the one in denial. A recession is defined by a negative growth in gross domestic product for two consecutive quarters. In other words, the gross domestic products are decreasing in production.

    This clearly happened before Clinton left office. The NASDAQ dropped by 50% and the tech bubble burst all under Clinton.

    Bush owns this one and I have admitted that but what is Obama doing about it. I have seen nothing positive happening since he took office. His answer to everything is spend more money.

    How long must we listen to ‘Bush caused it’?

  162. lindainks55
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    Anti, while you’re up making that sandwich you want, my iced tea glass is empty. Could you please fill it, while you’re up?

    Was there something I said that wasn’t factual about the current recession, or the terms of the last two presidents? The current recession started in December of 2007. bush the lesser left office almost fourteen months later on Jan. 20, 2009, the same day President Obama took office. That was four months, 1 week, 1 day ago.

  163. okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    Daniel please don’t waste your concern on me. The weakness of the lefts arguments are so easy to overcome that it is like a cakewalk.

    Your sarcasm is very telling of your lack of ability to put forth a coherent argument.

    But please keep trying. I need a good laugh everyday.

  164. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    Was there something I said that wasn’t factual about the current recession,
    ========================================

    I was just hungry.

  165. lindainks55
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    The bush expansion -— as it may come to be known -— does not stack up well against the Clinton boom of the 1990s on many measures. For one, the economy grew for 120 straight months in the 1990s versus 73 this decade. Incomes also grew under Clinton while they remained stagnant under Bush.

    Gross domestic product per capita, a rough measure of living standards, grew by 51 percent during the tech boom under Clinton versus 33 percent during the real estate boom under bush II. (But if you compare the average monthly gain in G.D.P. — per-capita, bush squeaks out a win: 0.45 percent versus 0.42 percent.)

  166. lindainks55
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    OK. If I get up first I’ll make the sandwich. If you do, please remember the iced tea. ;-)

  167. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    my iced tea glass is empty. Could you please fill it, while you’re up?
    =======================================

    Sure, while your out changing the oil on my boat’s lower unit grab me a beer out of the fridge.

  168. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    I’m kinda board of Bush, he’s no longer the ‘Prez’.

  169. lindainks55
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    Do you value this boat? What could I potentially mess up while attempting to find the lower unit and its oil reservoir?

  170. okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    Linda I know you won’t respond so it is like shooting fish in a barrel to point out the errors in your thinking. No one on here has said this recession didn’t start under Bush.

    What was said is that in the four months, 1 week, 1 day that Obama has been in office it has gotten progressively worse. He has made no positive impact on the problems of the nation. He has spent over a trillion dollars and where has it gone. Unemployment is at a record level. Foreclosures are approaching record levels. Businesses are going out of business because there is no credit lines for small business. Our own aircraft plants are cutting work days back again because no one can buy their planes.

    What is Obama doing?

  171. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    OK. If I get up first I’ll make the sandwich. If you do, please remember the iced tea. ;-)
    ==========================================

    Copy that.

  172. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    I think O’Bama spent a schitt load of money….

  173. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:56 pm | Permalink

    OUR Money. (or our kid’s and G-kid’s)

  174. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:57 pm | Permalink

    And G, G, G-Kid’s.

  175. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    Do you value this boat? What could I potentially mess up while attempting to find the lower unit and its oil reservoir?
    ==========================================

    Well, you will find yourself in a hole, I suppose.

    ;-)

    Maybe you should just dust in the house.

  176. BlueJay
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:01 pm | Permalink

    “What was said is that in the four months, 1 week, 1 day that Obama has been in office it has gotten progressively worse.”

    Huh, I hadn’t noticed.

    I guess it MIGHT be getting tough for someone who uses prison labor as janitorial labor. Probably people do their own cleaning and save the money.

  177. lindainks55
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    “Maybe you should just dust in the house.”

    It needs it too! Out-of-state company coming tomorrow so it’s on the agenda. If the company wasn’t coming I’d probably go buy more flowers and dig in the dirt some more.

  178. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    I guess it MIGHT be getting tough for someone who uses prison labor as janitorial labor.
    ============================================

    Somebody has to clean the schitters.

  179. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:03 pm | Permalink

    You volunteering BlueJay?

  180. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    The prisoners should mow the ditches too.

  181. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    BlueJay doesn’t understand ‘punishment’.

  182. RoaCH
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:24 pm | Permalink

    Well it appears our work here is nearly complete.
    We have managed to chase the libs away.

    They just couldn’t handle the truth. When faced with the reality of the Obamanation of the country they could no longer face it. They know the Leader is going to ruin the USA.

    All it took was a few strong willed conservatives, independents, and yes republicans to help them overcome the tape recordings.

    We have saved the day.

  183. RoaCH
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    “No more settlements, Clinton tells Israel”

    Irael tells Clinton & Obama: “F@ck you!”

    Isn’t the childish Obama diplomacy a gas?

  184. BlueJay
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    “We have managed to chase the libs away.”

    Is that a fact?

    Well “Roach” you’ve proved you can harass a lady. AND you managed to switch your nics and cover the tracks.

    What else ya got?

  185. RoaCH
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    George Bush, former US President:

    The former president earned a noisy standing ovation when asked what he wants his legacy to be.

    “Well, I hope it is this: The man showed up with a set of principles, and he was unwilling to sacrifice his soul for the sake of popularity,” he said.

  186. BlueJay
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    Israel would be most unwise to develop an attitude problem.

  187. RoaCH
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    “Well “Roach” you’ve proved you can harass a lady”

    Bluejay are you a girl?

    I thought you were a single dad trying to raise his kid on welfare, handouts, and anything free?

  188. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    AND you managed to switch your nics and cover the tracks.
    ==========================================

    I am pretty sure BlueJay is ret@rded, or at least handicapped.

  189. BlueJay
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    What are you “Roach”?

    Or, more to the point, who did you used to be?

    You seem upset. Good.

  190. BlueJay
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:48 pm | Permalink

    Well let’s do this.

    I’ll borrow a page out of Hank’s playbook and volunteer to meet “Roach” AND “ANTI”.

    What say ya guys?

  191. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:49 pm | Permalink

    #
    BlueJay
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    What are you “Roach”?

    Or, more to the point, who did you used to be?

    You seem upset. Good.
    =========================

    I am confident as to my assessment now, thanks BlueJay.

  192. BlueJay
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    Your welcome Hank.

  193. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    I’ll borrow a page out of Hank’s playbook and volunteer to meet “Roach” AND “ANTI”.

    What say ya guys?
    ============================

    Is this kinda like the meeting you promised Regular?

  194. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    I tell ya what BlueJay, pick a Dillons!

  195. BlueJay
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know.

    I guess we’ll see if anyone horns in on the invitation like Nathaniel did in that case.

    Besides, I HAVE met “Regular”. He just didn’t know it.

  196. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    or maybe a bookstore…

  197. Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    “By the 4th qrt of his first year Bush through targeted tax cuts and incentives to business had turned the economy around.”
    ___________________________________

    By the 4th Qtr of Bush’s first year, we were in a severe economic melt down, due to 9/11/b>

    I think granny has her calendar screwed up just a tad bit…

  198. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    I HAVE met “BlueJay”. He just didn’t know it.

    HEh heh.

  199. ANTI
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    Peace out, Homes.

  200. BlueJay
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    Well sure I did Hank.

    You accosted me at the dog show and then again at Woofstock.

  201. RoaCH
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 1:35 pm | Permalink
    “American_Way” obsesses –

    “Monkeyhawk in the dressing room….”

    This is beginning to be more about your fantasy than the reality I observed — over the course of 20 minutes or so — of the Marine primping in his cute little costume.

    I came in off the racquetball court, took a shower, came out of the shower and the Marine was still at it. I sat in the sauna with a magazine and came out and the Marine was still fussing with those garters you claimed Marines don’t wear.

    I took another cool-down shower and came out
    ===============================================

    Did I read this right? Monkeybutt had to take TWO SHOWERS after watching a Marine get dressed?

    I’m not telling anyone what to do ya know. But if’n I was a meetin’ up with this guy, I’d be watching my gear if you know what I mean.

    “Danger Will Robinson!”
    “Danger Will Robinson!”

  202. Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    By the 4th Qtr of his first year, Bush had already blown the surplus he had when he took office…

    Why do you make such jokes, granny?? I’m laughing so hard, I think some of my tea came through my nose!!! ROFL!!

    BUT… they say people who laugh, are healthier than people who promote fear, and uncertainty, and oh yea, death… F.U.D.

  203. Posted May 28, 2009 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    RoaCH — You reptards havent chased the liberals away… You all are floundering so much, that we are laughing too hard to type!!! LOL

  204. RoaCH
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    “What are you “Roach”?”

    Bluejay I didn’t include with the libs we chased away. You being a liberal is something they endure, like skid marks on their shorts. You are tolerated by the libs as their ignorant step-son.

    But you are like the light beer of liberals: Ten gallons of water and one can of Heinken.

    Heck, you don’t even have a job.

  205. Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    Be vewwy afwaid Roach… The insecticide is creeping up qwietly behind you…

  206. BlueJay
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    You a Roach or a crawfish ‘Roach”?

  207. Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    “Heck, you don’t even have a job.” [RoaCH]

    And RoaCH maintains his string of LIES!!

    Can you prove your statement about BlueJay?? If not(which you cant) SHUT UP!!!

  208. Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    good night; good luck; god bless –
    whatever you conceive god to be!!

    blessingts all, and god bless america!!

    so mote it be!!

  209. BlueJay
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    All ya have to do is come meet me “Roach”.

    Cause I’m betting we’ve already met.

  210. okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    “After three successive quarters of decline, U.S. GDP rose 2.7% in the fourth quarter of 2001.”

    Chas maybe that tea is too strong for you. The 4th qtr of Bush’s first year showed an upturn by the end of a year that saw the largest terrorist attack ever on our own soil.

    I have laughed a lot today. You libs just keep me in stitches.

    Jr I don’t know anyone personally who has a janitorial service but I can ask around if you need a job. I’ll try to find you one with benefits so you can make your son proud and provide for him yourself.

  211. BlueJay
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    Hard to be a con these days.

    Ya can’t fight the Supreme Court nominee. Well, you can, but you can’t win.

    Business is outta Government and Government is getting into business.

    And none other than TED OLSON, former bush administration official and opponent of David Boise in bush V Gore has allied with Boise to file suit against California’s Prop 8 “protect marriage” amendment.

    BlueJay sings….

    Shot down, in a blaze of glory….

  212. okobserver
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    WICHITA – Daryl D. Becker, 56, McPherson, former financial secretary of Steelworkers Local 558 AFL-CIO in McPherson, has been charged with embezzling union funds.

    Federal prosecutors say the crime occurred July 2, 2005, in McPherson County.

    If convicted, he faces a maximum penalty of five years in federal prison and a fine of up to $250,000. The Department of Labor investigated.

    ——————-
    Another one of those fine union workers.

  213. BlueJay
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    “Jr I don’t know anyone personally who has a janitorial service ”

    I do.

  214. RoaCH
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    so you can make your son proud and provide for him yourself.
    =================================================

    I was just bouncing back to close out of the weblog when I caught your post.

    Jr has zero desire or initiative to make his son proud. This is the very hard thing for working and successful people to understand. But there are people who when offered an opportunity will look at you like you are nuts. Most are still working on their GED.

  215. Regular
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:22 pm | Permalink

    The reason why Junior can’t get hired anywhere is that he tried to defraud a local union with a fake illness. No one wants somebody like that.

  216. Regular
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

    Q-Line Conference Tomorrow

    Members of the media are invited to attend a Q-line news conference tomorrow to mark the beginning of the new season. It will be held at 2pm in the Farm and Art Market Plaza in Old Town, 835 E. 1st street. There will be an announcement about a change in the shuttle service. Mayor Carl Brewer, Wichita City Council Member Lavonta Williams, Wichita Transit Director Mike Vinson and Wichita Downtown Development Corporation President Jeff Fluhr will be in attendance.

  217. RoaCH
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

    So Bluejay

    When you get the call you clean sh@tters for a living?

  218. BlueJay
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    I make my own work James “Regular” McCluer.

    Right now, I’m looking to put you, me and “Roach” in the same space. YOU’RE schedule is open.

  219. RoaCH
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    No wonder you have a chip on your shoulder JR. I’m one of the succesful people who take a crap in public toilets and don’t flush. I also make a mess of the toilet paper dispenser.

    Think of me when you get to my stall.

  220. BlueJay
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 10:32 pm | Permalink

    I’ll forward your request to Republican Senator Larry Craig there “Roach”.

  221. BlueJay
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 11:05 pm | Permalink

    I say “Roach” is “Regular”

    Who lives with his sister. And is apparently keeping whatever business he does in the family.

  222. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 28, 2009 at 11:56 pm | Permalink

    I leave WE Blog for, y’know, real life and come back to all sorts of CONtentious arm-flailing.

    Sorry I wasn’t here for the squabble.

  223. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 29, 2009 at 5:16 am | Permalink

    From Fark –

    ” Kavya Shivashankar wins National Spelling Bee after successfully completing the “Fill In your name” portion of the application.”

    Damn immigrants ruining Kansas’ reputation.