Film outs gay politicians

outrageWashington is bracing for the release Friday of the documentary “Outrage.” The film outs several politicians who campaign against gay rights but are allegedly gay themselves.
Meanwhile, this week Maine became the fifth state to approve gay marriage, and the Washington, D.C., city council voted to recognize gay marriages performed elsewhere.

182 Comments

  1. Boxlock20
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 7:06 am | Permalink

    “allegedly gay themselves”

    I would suspect this film is mostly a lie, politically driven to harm individuals and to advance a sick agenda.
    Queer!

  2. BlueJay
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 7:23 am | Permalink

    I don’t imagine this will screen locally. I would like to see it.

  3. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 7:49 am | Permalink

    If the film outs Senator Lindsey Graham I don’t think that will surprise anyone.

  4. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 8:05 am | Permalink

    Based on nothing, “Boxlock20″ chimes in –

    “I would suspect this film is mostly a lie….”

    More likely, this a a cinematic version of some of the chapters in “Blinded by the Right and “The Republican Noise Machine.”

    It might just recycle Mark Foley and Larry Craig’s little adventures.

    Y’know, “Boxlock20,” … “lies.”

    (Welcome back to school.)

  5. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    MH, Boxy does think he’s God so he doesn’t even need to watch the movie, he already knows everything about it. Or else he’s still living in neocon fantasy land and doesn’t think there are any gay Republicans. He probably keeps all his Ted Haggard media really shiny.

  6. Boxlock20
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 8:12 am | Permalink

    Neither do I need to feed on feces to know it’s not healthy….I’m not surprised the Maggot, Monkey and BlowJb do.

  7. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 8:14 am | Permalink

    Eating feces, is that a fantasy of yours Boxy?

  8. Boxlock20
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 8:16 am | Permalink

    Go brush your teeth Maggot if you want to talk to me.

  9. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 8:18 am | Permalink

    Boxy, in a different thread you are the one saying you were turned on by filth, and here you’re the one fantasizing about eating feces. Tell us, what other perverse things are on your mind? Have any homoerotic fantasies you want to tell us about?

  10. BlueJay
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 8:20 am | Permalink

    Boxlock20 = sick

  11. cosmos_originally
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 8:26 am | Permalink

    bigotbawks posted May 7, 2009 at 7:06 am

    I would suspect this film is mostly a lie, politically driven to harm individuals and to advance a sick agenda.
    Queer!
    ————————

    bigotbawks,

    Do you find comfort in your blind, intolerant, self-centered belief that you are superior to so many other people?

  12. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 8:31 am | Permalink

    “cosmos_originally” asks “Boxlock20″ –

    “Do you find comfort in your blind, intolerant, self-centered belief that you are superior to so many other people?”

    Hey, now!

    “Boxlock20″ has a right to feel superior.

    He’s been “taken to school” so much he must’ve picked up something.

  13. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 8:32 am | Permalink

    Too bad Boxy isn’t a politician, he might have gotten a mention in the video.

  14. Boxlock20
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 8:51 am | Permalink

    “Boxy, in a different thread you are the one saying you were turned on by filth, ”

    Of course that is another lie, but just what we’ve come to expect.
    And no, I don’t fantasize “about eating feces”, I am witnessing those that figuratively do, you!

  15. Mr_Kia
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    How about a film or book outing every single “Do as I say not as I do” politician. Pretty much covers all of them one way or another. Possibly the outrage could truly lead to the change we need.

  16. RFL
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    politicians who campaign against gay rights but are allegedly gay themselves.

    According to this movie and its rousing chorus of supporters on this blog, the only people who oppose gay rights are gay themselves.

    This is hardly a defense of gays.
    In fact, it reveals an peculiar self hating psychological disorder inherent to being gay.

  17. fleettwood
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:16 am | Permalink

    And no, I don’t fantasize “about eating feces”,
    _______________________________________

    Stop it. You’re making me hungry.

  18. Boxlock20
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:16 am | Permalink

    “In fact, it reveals an peculiar self hating psychological disorder inherent to being gay.”

    So very true, and legalizing homosexual marriage will not change that self hating psychological disorder, though that is exactly what they are trying to do.

  19. oldkansan
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    WHO CARES!!!!!

  20. American_Way
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    I care.

    I am concerned about people eating feces.

  21. American_Way
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    And speaking of being hungry, look what happens when the government gives people things for free.
    When free becomes a right:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,519256,00.html

    Riots.

  22. totoinks
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    American-Way – speaking of Government giving things for free – does that also include those subsidies and tax breaks given to corporations and other wealthy Republicans?

    Of course, these people don’t need to go down to riot to get their free govenrment handouts – they send their chauffeurs -right?

    A freeloader is a freeloader, even when they are living on Wall Street or the Cayman Islands.

  23. totoinks
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:09 am | Permalink

    I don’t expect you to understand American because greed will blind you at some point in time.

  24. Nathaniel
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:15 am | Permalink

    It always sadly ironical watching those on the left be so quick to “out” someone for being gay and then attack them for it.

    What was that word…. oh yes… tolerance.

    You don’t see Republicns trying to “out” anyone on the left or trying to attack them for being gay.

    I guess it is just another one of those liberal double standards where they are outraged about the treatment of homosexuals as long as they are not Republicans.

    Where else does one notice such hypocrisy from the left? Oh yes, with black people.

  25. Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:15 am | Permalink

    And speaking of being hungry, look what happens when the government gives people things for free.
    When free becomes a right:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,519256,00.html

    Riots.
    =============================================

    You should try reading the articles you post.

  26. Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    It always sadly ironical watching those on the left be so quick to “out” someone for being gay and then attack them for it.
    =================================================

    The film maker is definitely outing closeted homosexuals, but how is he ‘attacking’ them for being gay?

    If he’s ‘attacking’ anything, it would seem to be hypocrisy.

  27. Nathaniel
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    Daniel,

    Not everyone wants to have the world know they are gay.

    Why else would they be able to be “outed”

    It is an attack. Designed for what other purpose than to attack them?

    But, I think the key word here is “allegedly”

    And the liberals on this blog cheer such things.

  28. brian_nuevo
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    “Nathaniel
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:15 am | Permalink
    …You don’t see Republicns trying to “out” anyone on the left or trying to attack them for being gay.”

    Seriously?!? What world do you live in?

  29. cosmos_originally
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    From the link in the header:

    “Outrage aims to expose high-ranking politicians in the U.S. who actively campaign against gay rights, despite the fact that they are actually gay themselves.”

  30. fleettwood
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    “Outrage aims to expose high-ranking politicians in the U.S. who actively campaign against gay rights,
    __________________________________________

    Does anyone know what “gay rights” these people supposedly were actively campaigning against?

  31. American_Way
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    “A freeloader is a freeloader, even when they are living on Wall Street or the Cayman Islands.”

    tax breaks given to corporations and other wealthy [Democrats] & Republicans?

    As a matter of fact totoinks – YES!

    My posts will support that. Go bone dig.

    Apology accepted

  32. Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    Nathaniel,

    I still don’t see where anyone is being attacked for being gay.

    Most people don’t want details of their personal lives to be made public. Even public figures have a right to some degree of privacy, in my opinion.

    However, when you are a politician running on a family values platform and are simultaneously living a secret life that runs counter to your public persona, I think that details of your personal life become fair game.

    The case of John Edwards comes to mind.

    Were details of John Edwards’ personal life ‘outed’ because he was an adulterer or because he is a hypocrite?

    The ‘attack’ is on hypocrisy, not homosexuality.

  33. American_Way
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    Daniel
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:15 am | Permalink
    And speaking of being hungry, look what happens when the government gives people things for free.
    When free becomes a right:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,519256,00.html

    Riots.
    =============================================

    You should try reading the articles you post.

    Did I miss something? Weren’t there riots when the beggars didn’t get their free food?

  34. immunis
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    NPR did a story last night with one of the people in the film. He admitted he was gay and was outed. Guess they are not all “alleged” in the film.

  35. StevenEDavis
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    fleettwood
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:16 am | Permalink

    And no, I don’t fantasize “about eating feces”,
    _______________________________________

    Stop it. You’re making me hungry.
    * * * * *

    Oohh… look, fleety is doing Hannibal Lecter, one better, he’s eating his own brains.

    Since he won’t be able to do it himself, will someone please get and drop a plaque on his unconscious body when he is done?

  36. Regular
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:48 am | Permalink

    An agenda based attack film from Caliwood, Hollyfornia.

    What a surprise!

  37. Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    Did I miss something? Weren’t there riots when the beggars didn’t get their free food?
    ==============================================

    First: I couldn’t find any mention of the government in the article. KFC was giving away chicken, not the government.

    Second: The article says that there were no riots. It says that some customers became disgruntled.

    Third: Beggars? Some of your other posts on other threads indicate to me that you might be considered ‘frugal’. Heck, I’m not above redeeming a coupon myself, but I think that hardly qualifies me as a ‘beggar.’

    If I’ve mischaracterized you as ‘frugal’ and that offends you, please accept my humblest apologies in advance.

  38. fleettwood
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    Oohh… look, fleety is doing Hannibal Lecter, one better, he’s eating his own brains.

    Since he won’t be able to do it himself, will someone please get and drop a plaque on his unconscious body when he is done?
    __________________________________________

    You hurt me with your cruel words.

  39. Nathaniel
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    Daniel,

    Absurd comparison.

    Are you trying to say that being gay is as bad as being an adulturer?

    According to the left there is nothing wrong with being gay.

    Comparing it to cheating on your wife is simply silly.

  40. Mr_Kia
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    The case of John Edwards comes to mind.

    Were details of John Edwards’ personal life ‘outed’ because he was an adulterer or because he is a hypocrite?

    The ‘attack’ is on hypocrisy, not homosexuality.
    ————————————————–

    **Actually is was on he being an adulterer.

    ————————————————–
    Absurd comparison.

    Are you trying to say that being gay is as bad as being an adulturer?

    According to the left there is nothing wrong with being gay.

    Comparing it to cheating on your wife is simply silly.
    ————————————————–
    **You aren’t weighing sins there are you brother?

  41. cosmos_originally
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    It looks like Nathaniel cannot understand the point of the film is the hypocrisy.

  42. American_Way
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    “If I’ve mischaracterized you as ‘frugal’ and that offends you, please accept my humblest apologies in advance.”

    No apology needed. I consider it a compliment. I prefer “tightwad”, but that’s fine. But I am a very, very consistent tightwad.

    At the KFC, people didn’t riot – but they got mad and angry that when they got their turn at the window – the cupboard was bare. They had been promised something [an entitlement] and KFC could not follow through.

    Much like our own nation promises everyone everything – even to the point of putting us all over 10 trillion dollars in debt. We just keep promising more and more.

    The day of reckoning will come. The Japanese and China will stop buying our worthless [declining value of the overspent dollar] treasury notes, we have no raw materials as a consumer nation – and we will all become a 3rd class nation.

    And there will be riots. Perhaps real change [revolution].

    But don’t worry, it won’t start until 2030 or so…

  43. American_Way
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    “Were details of John Edwards’ personal life ‘outed’ ”

    At least the press waited until after Edwards ended his campaign. They kept it secret for him.

  44. Nathaniel
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    Cosmos,

    Pointing out hypocrisy at the cost of outing someone.

    Allegedly that is.

    And you don’t get that outing someone is an attack on them.

  45. Regular
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    I didn’t know cosmos was a cave dweller. He appears to be ferociously defending the attack film.

    That would explain a lot of things.

  46. Nathaniel
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    Mr_Kia,

    Is Daniel claiming that being a Homosexual is a sin?

  47. cosmos_originally
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    Nathaniel,

    The “costs” do not change the “point”.

  48. fleettwood
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    I didn’t know cosmos was a cave dweller. He appears to be ferociously defending the attack film.
    ______________________________________

    Does butt love cause AGW?

  49. SolDevVB
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    cosmos_originally
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:02 am | Permalink
    It looks like Nathaniel cannot understand

    Different topic, same crap from cosmo.

    If ever there was a broken record one trick pony…

  50. Regular
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    #
    fleettwood
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    I didn’t know cosmos was a cave dweller. He appears to be ferociously defending the attack film.
    ______________________________________

    Does butt love cause AGW?
    ———————
    Excessive methane and co2 emissions…

  51. Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    #
    Nathaniel
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    Daniel,

    Absurd comparison.

    Are you trying to say that being gay is as bad as being an adulturer?

    According to the left there is nothing wrong with being gay.

    Comparing it to cheating on your wife is simply silly.
    =============================================

    Do you really think my comparison is ‘absurd’ or ’silly’ when you consider that many of these closeted Republicans cheat on their wives? They just cheat with other men instead of other women.

    No, I’m not comparing homosexuality with adultery on some sort of morality scale. This boils down to hypocrisy being exposed. Public figures who say one thing in the public square but then secretly live another way.

    Suppose that PETA President Ingrid Newkirk was filmed in Canada clubbing baby seals in a full length mink coat. It’s not illegal or morally objectionable to hunting seals or wearing a fur coat, to most people, but she would probably be exposed as a hypocrite, don’t you think?

  52. fleettwood
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    Excessive methane and co2 emissions…
    _______________________________________

    No wonder Obama hates homos.
    They’re killing the planet.
    Oh, the homanity!

  53. XXX
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    It took exactly 4 posts for this thread to plunge into the sewer.

    Way to go.

  54. fleettwood
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    It took exactly 4 posts for this thread to plunge into the sewer.
    __________________________________

    The sewer smells like butt love.

  55. Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    No apology needed. I consider it a compliment. I prefer “tightwad”, but that’s fine. But I am a very, very consistent tightwad.
    ===============================================

    I figured as much. I come from a long line of tightwads, myself. ;-)

  56. Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    #
    Nathaniel
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    Cosmos,

    Pointing out hypocrisy at the cost of outing someone.

    Allegedly that is.

    And you don’t get that outing someone is an attack on them.
    ==============================================

    So, bringing facts to light now constitutes an ‘attack?’

    O.K.

  57. cosmos_originally
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    Nathaniel posted May 7, 2009 at 10:25 am

    Not everyone wants to have the world know they are gay.

    Why else would they be able to be “outed”

    It is an attack. Designed for what other purpose than to attack them?
    —————–

    To point out their hypocrisy.

  58. shavedclean
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    I just figured out who BOX is from the way he writes and his phrasology in his speech. We met while you were cruising the parks. You were the one in Chisum Creek asking us if we wanted a good time. We say what you had to offer and laughed. remember us?

  59. Nathaniel
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Daniel,

    Hypocrites for what?

    It is an assumed premise that it is a gay “right” to be married.

    Many people disagree.

    The fact that someone is gay and doesn’t agree with gay marriage doesn’t make them a hypocrite.

    Cheaters?

    Well, yeah, if they are indeed having an extramarital relationship then they are cheaters.

    However, the point of the film doesn’t seem to be to point out people who are cheating on their spouse.

  60. shavedclean
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    As a gay man myself, I have NEVER felt it right to “out” someone. But to show elected politicians as being dishonest IS ok by me. Now, how would I reconcile outting gay politicians for being dishonest? I don’t think I can even though every bone in my body would love to publish pictures of it.

    P.S. marriage isn’t a “right” for anyone gay or straight.

  61. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    The Virgin Prophet “Nathaniel” seems particularly sensitive to the prospect of outing closeted gays.

    The boy also seems oblivious to the concept of hypocrisy.

    No one objected to Larry Craig or Mark Foley (well, Mark Foley’s predilection four underage boys figured into it) being gay. It’s how their political careers were so obviously built on their public anti-gay political agendas.

    Ted Haggard was preachin’ the “gospel” and taking in “love offerings” to finance his meth & f@ggot addictions. “Follow me to Jesus, but first let’s score some ice and get a room.”

    C’mon, “Nathaniel.”

    Even you aren’t clueless about the issue at hand.

    Are you?

  62. Nathaniel
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:09 pm | Permalink

    Monkeybrains throws some crap on the wall with:

    “The boy also seems oblivious to the concept of hypocrisy.”

    It might seem to you that I am oblivious, but you might actually try explaining how merely being gay and opposing homosexual marriage makes one a hyopcrite.

    Being that a hypocrite means you are doing something you preach against.

    Are these people being outed secretly getting married to their gay lovers?

    That would make them hypocrites.

  63. Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    Nathan writes, It always sadly ironical watching those on the left be so quick to “out” someone for being gay and then attack them for it.

    Wrong. They are being attacked, not for being gay, but for attacking gays when they themselves are gay.

    What was that word…. oh yes… tolerance.

    Wrong again. They are being attacked precisely for their lack of tolerance–discriminating against others for what they do.

    You don’t see Republicns trying to “out” anyone on the left

    Of course not. That’s because homosexuals on the left don’t need to pretend they’re straight.

    Cf, Barney Frank

    or trying to attack them for being gay. Wrong. CONs attack people for being gay all the time. Pat Robertson blamed 9-11 on gay pride parades. Jerry Falwell said, “not even ANIMALS do that.” President Born-Again sanctioned the pogrom against gay-marriage.

    That’s why CONs like Ken Mehlmen, former Head of the Republican National Committee, could never answer the “yes or no” question of “are you gay?” with a simple yes or no.

  64. Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    Hypocrites for what?
    ===========================================

    They are hypocrites for saying one thing in the public square and secretly living in a different way.

    Suppose there were a host of a right-wing radio program who was always publicly crowing about his high moral character while in real life he was actually a thrice-divorced, Viagra smuggling, oxycontin addicted, pedophile who has a predilection for Dominican boys.

    I would expect that if those facts came to light, the radio show host would be considered a hypocrite.

  65. Nathaniel
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    Daniel,

    What specifically do you think they are saying in public and doing differently themselves which would make them Hypocrites?

    What was alluded to on the trailer doesn’ make them hypocrites.

  66. Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    Remember when Rick Santorum said that homosexual marriage would lead to “man weds dog”?

    Yeah, no intolerance there, eh, Nathan.

  67. cosmos_originally
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    Nathaniel posted May 7, 2009 at 11:46 am

    The fact that someone is gay and doesn’t agree with gay marriage doesn’t make them a hypocrite.
    ———————

    Nathaniel,

    Do you have any proof that the politicians in the film who campaign against “gay rights”, despite being gay themselves, do not agree with gay marriage?

    Since they’ve been (allegedly) secretly gay, how do you know that they are not also secretly pro-gay marriage?

  68. American_Way
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    “I would expect that if those facts came to light, the radio show host would be considered a hypocrite.”

    I think they are considered “successful”.

  69. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    I dunno, “Nathaniel” –

    But I’m reminded of the comment from J.C. Watts’ father who said, “someone who’s black and a pro-Republican is like a chicken who’s pro-Colonel Sanders.”

    And here you are trying to reduce all LBGT issues to marriage?

    Did you forget your diatribes a couple of days ago objecting to making assaults on LBGT people Hate Crimes?

    Did you forget politicians such as Foley and Craig won office by castigating gays?

    If I were to run for public office and part of my stump speech was praising the Marine Corps, wouldn’t some of my past posts to this forum make you a tad… perturbed?

    If I scheduled photo-ops with fluffy kittens but was revealed to be (back in my closet) an atavistic crusher of kitty skulls, might you not be outraged?

    What the film at issue apparently explores is how certain CONs got into whatever degree of power they wield by publicly condemning the very stuff they do in private.

    It’s be the same if someone found out Barney Frank didn’t really like guys, but beds three Playboy bunnies a night, every night.

    Hypocrisy, boy.

    That’s the point at hand.

  70. American_Way
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    “who was always publicly crowing about his high moral character”

    Can I get a link to that? I’d sure like to read it in the clear.

    I know only two living people who think they could walk on water – but for the holes in their hands and feet: Barack Obama and Rush Limbaugh.

    But I don’t recall Rush saying as much.

  71. Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    Here’s a short list of Gay-baiting CONservative Gays:

    J. Edgar Hoover, director of the FBI

    Mark A. Foley, former Congressman

    Ken Mehlmen, former director of the RNC

    Dan Gurley, former field director of the RNC

    Communist hunter Roy Cohn (Joe McCarthy’s lawyer), died of AIDS

    Ed Schrock, former Congressman, active Baptist with a 92 percent approval rating from The Christian Coalition

    Jim Kolbe, Congressman who went public with his homosexuality after he voted against gay marriage.

    Matt Drudge, web-media idiot

    Jay Timmons, Executive Director, Republican Senatorial Committee

  72. beber
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    I didn’t know Pat Roberts was gay.

  73. cosmos_originally
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    http://www.outragethemovie.com/
    “Synopsis

    Academy Award nominated filmmaker Kirby Dick (This Film Is Not Yet Rated) delivers a searing indictment of the hypocrisy of closeted politicians who actively campaign against the LGBT community they covertly belong to. OUTRAGE boldly reveals the hidden lives of some of our nation’s most powerful policymakers, details the harm they’ve inflicted on millions of Americans, and examines the media’s complicity in keeping their secrets.”

  74. Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

    #
    American_Way
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    “who was always publicly crowing about his high moral character”

    Can I get a link to that? I’d sure like to read it in the clear.

    I know only two living people who think they could walk on water – but for the holes in their hands and feet: Barack Obama and Rush Limbaugh.

    But I don’t recall Rush saying as much.
    ===============================================

    Who said anything about Rush Limbaugh?

    The scenario I presented was purely hypothetical.

  75. Regular
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    What Libs are all about – ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK

    And they expect tolerance in return?

    puhleeze….

  76. American_Way
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    hypo?
    Hypo active thyroid
    Hypo psycho
    Hypoglycemia
    Hypothyroidism
    Hypoallergenic dogs
    Hypopigmentation
    Hypoglycemic
    Hypomania
    hypothetical….

    Oooooh. I found it. neVERmind.

  77. American_Way
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    hypo?
    Hypo active thyroid
    Hypo psycho
    Hypoglycemia
    Hypothyroidism
    Hypoallergenic dogs
    Hypopigmentation
    Hypoglycemic
    Hypomania
    hypothetical….

    Oooooh. I found it. neVERmind.

  78. American_Way
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    hypo?
    Hypo active thyroid
    Hypo psycho
    Hypoglycemia
    Hypothyroidism
    Hypoallergenic dogs
    Hypopigmentation
    Hypoglycemic
    Hypomania
    hypothetical….

    Oooooh. I found it. neVERmind.

  79. SolDevVB
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    Nathaniel,

    Do you have any proof

    Different topic, same ole cosmo.

  80. cosmos_originally
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    soldevvb,

    Give Nathaniel some help — list the reasons a gay would oppose gay rights.

  81. ANTI
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    list the reasons a gay would oppose gay rights.
    ===========================

    1. Politicians are w hores.

  82. brian_nuevo
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    I actually heard an interview with the filmmaker of this movie, and one of the people outed yesterday.

    The impact it had on the politician’s life was incredible, but ultimately for the good it seemed.

    According to the filmmaker, the movie won’t really ‘out’ anyone who hasn’t already been outed (or allegedly outed). I doubt anyone in the Beltway will be shocked.

  83. SolDevVB
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    cosmos_originally
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 1:13 pm | Permalink
    soldevvb,

    Give Nathaniel some help

    Help yourself. Give the percentage of atmospheric CO2 directly contributed by humans burning fossil fuels.

    Show that is isn’t pathetically small. So small as to illicit hysterical laughter at your obsession.

  84. cosmos_originally
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/truce-in-the-2-year-coal-war/#comment-567459

  85. ANTI
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    .01%

  86. SolDevVB
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    So you don’t know or the 0.01% figure is too close to home.

    0.01% of a trace gas. And you want to tax the energy industry, freeze old ladies in winter, raise the price of everything.

    All so cos gets a warm fuzzy about reducing 0.01% of a trace gas by 3%.

  87. cosmos_originally
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    0.11% = a misquote of a falsehood from soldevvb’s source.

    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/open-thread-51-2/#comment-564439

  88. SolDevVB
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    And cos either proves she doesn’t know, or is too scared to post it.

    0.01% of a trace gas. That is what has cos’s panties all in a wad.

  89. ANTI
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    Humans have caused CO2 to increase from about 280 ppm to 380+ ppm= 100pmm= 0.01% increase

  90. ANTI
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    0.01% is caused by man, according to Cosmos.

  91. SolDevVB
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    Humans have caused CO2 to increase from about 280 ppm to 380+

    Over what time period? Wow, break that down over the time period and see what the annual percentage is. Can you say tiny?

    And you are talking about a 100ppm rise over the time period. Are you sure that was all attributed to humans?

    If so, did you exclude respiration and other CO2 sources?

    So the percent added by humans burning fossil fuels is going to have a lot of zeros right behind the decimal.

    NO WONDER cos is afraid to post the number. It is about as small as her IQ.

  92. brian_nuevo
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    OMG! Does every f’ing thread have to shift to global warming?

  93. Boxlock20
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    shavedclean
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 11:38 am
    “I just figured out who BOX is from the way he writes and his phrasology in his speech. We met while you were cruising the parks. You were the one in Chisum Creek asking us if we wanted a good time. We say what you had to offer and laughed. remember us?”….”As a gay man myself, I have NEVER felt it right to “out” someone. ”

    But it’s okay to tell filthy lies…damn queer!

  94. ANTI
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    OMG! Does every f’ing thread have to shift to global warming?
    ===========================

    Gays cause Global Warming.

    (Flamers=Global Warming)

    It’s Science.

  95. brian_nuevo
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    “ANTI
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 1:50 pm | Permalink
    …Gays cause Global Warming.”

    Gays may get you heated up, but probably not enough people get heated up to cause global warming

  96. ANTI
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    Gays drive cars, use oil, use electricity, and breath…Gays cause Global Warming.

  97. ANTI
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    Brian,

    The debate is over.

  98. SolDevVB
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    Increased CO@ output. Increased methane output.

    It is science Brian.

  99. SolDevVB
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    CO2 even. Damn shift key.

  100. ANTI
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Just for clarification Brian,

    Wombats also cause Global Warming.

    (I know, it’s crazy)

  101. SolDevVB
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    And fatties.

  102. American_Way
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    and angry people.

  103. American_Way
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

    Did I read this right?

    Cosmos posted something like

    0.11% = a mosquitoes impact on GW.

  104. American_Way
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    That’s a fact jack:

    Homosexuality is the chief cause of the looming ecological disaster, claims a new faith-inspired report
    By Rhesus Scopes, Pseudo-Science Editor

    Homosexuals are destroying the planet. That’s the stunning conclusion of a report by a British scientist working for a worldwide research institute.

    “Global warming is a gay issue,” said the organization’s chief para-scientist, Professor Helmut Junk at a press conference yesterday. “The heat generated in discos, bath houses, the manufacture of interior furnishings, leather tanning and the result of … um …. friction, is a major contributor to the global rise in mean temperature. There are also lifestyle issues, such as homosexuals’ liking for gas-guzzling Jeeps and the environmental impact of frequent vacations in Ibiza, Gran Canaria, San Francisco and Margate.”

    He denied, however, that gays’ fondness for houseplants and gardening offsets their carbon footprint to a degree.

    Prof Junk’s work is sponsored by the United Faith Science & Biblical Truth Foundation. According to the organization’s marketing material, “The UFS&BTF adopts a far more rigorous attitude to science than most scientists. The science community in general is all too willing to accept ideas — even the most bizarre and outlandish theories such as evolution, relativity and paleontology — based on little more than data, factual evidence and predictability. Our organization adopts a more selective and stringent approach. That’s because we go the extra mile and ensure that our ideas conform with the ultimate test of reason and commonsense — the Word of God.”

    While refusing to release the details of the study, Junk added: “The important thing is that, at last, we have the most convincing and morally correct proof, in scientific-sounding terms, about the roots of this important issue.”

    http://www.weeklyworldinquisitor.com/gays_cause_global_warming.html

  105. cosmos_originally
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    American_Way posted May 7, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    0.11% = a mosquitoes impact on GW.
    ——————-
    Are you claiming that mosquitoes can cause about 1.5 watts per square meter of warming, over all of Earth?

  106. Maggotpunk
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    Apparently the video is going to out Charlie Crist, governor of Florida.

    http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/05/07/gop-governor-eyeing-senate-run-to-be-outed-in-film/

    I hope the GOP kicks him out so he can join the Dems, he’s been a pretty good governor.

  107. SolDevVB
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    0.11%?

    Get with the times. It is 0.01% and over what ever time period you said CO2 raised from 280 ppm to 380+ ppm.

    I think that was a few years wasn’t it?

    So are you saying the 100ppm increase was 100% due to humans? Humans burning fossil fuels?

  108. Boxlock20
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    comatose, can you honestly read your own posts and not be embarrassed?
    What a hell to live in such a micro world.

  109. brian_nuevo
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    “American_Way
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 2:14 pm | Permalink
    and angry people.”

    OK I will capitulate and join in….

    and Republicans

    (especially fat, angry, gay Republicans)

  110. brian_nuevo
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    (in the interest of fairness)

    and Democrats

    (especially fat, angry, gay Democrats)

  111. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    “Boxlock20″ –

    I suppose one could inject cyanide into you — even just 1% of your total body mass — and ruin your day.

  112. cosmos_originally
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    soldevvb,

    If you cannot remember what has been posted recently, then take notes.

  113. ANTI
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    I suppose one could inject cyanide into you — even just 1% of your total body mass — and ruin your day.
    ============================

    That would be 1000ppm, not 100ppm.

    CO2 is not comparable to cyanide.

  114. SolDevVB
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    If you can’t count the number of zeros after the decimal, I understand cosmo.

  115. cosmos_originally
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    soldevvb,

    And I understand that you type CO2 as “CO@”.

  116. Boxlock20
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    The Monkey is totally irrelevant.
    I’ve not even been in the ‘percentage’ argument, but the Monkey can’t figure that out I guess.

  117. SolDevVB
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    OMG Becky !!! A typo. I am so cold busted.

    Just when I thought there was noooo possible way for cosmo to look even more foolish…

    So how many zeros are we talking about behind that decimal cos? 3? 5? 10?

  118. Jed
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    Ant,
    “list the reasons a gay would oppose gay rights.
    ===========================
    1. Politicians are w hores.”

    And the voters are their johns.

  119. cosmos_originally
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    soldevvb posted May 7, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    OMG Becky !!! A typo. I am so cold busted.

    Just when I thought there was noooo possible way for cosmo to look even more foolish…
    ———————

    soldevvb,

    Were all of your earlier posts of “0.11%” also “typos”?

    I quoted your “0.11%” in my 1:37 pm post upthread.

    soldevvb should take notes of her own posts.

    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/open-thread-51-2/#comment-564439

    soldevvb posted May 1, 2009 at 11:13 pm | Permalink

    I have yet to quote Milloy. I have posted the 0.11% that . . .

    soldevvb posted May 1, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    . . . the 0.11% figure.

    soldevvb posted May 1, 2009 at 7:04 pm | Permalink

    (. . .the higher 0.11%)
    . . .
    . . . than 0.11%?

  120. outlander
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    Remember back when, when the laughably misnamed “tolerant” libs used to say what went on in someones bedroom was no one else’s business. Remember that?

    They are certainly hypocrites, aren’t they?

  121. Posted May 7, 2009 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    Remember back when, when the laughably misnamed “tolerant” libs used to say what went on in someones bedroom was no one else’s business. Remember that?

    They are certainly hypocrites, aren’t they?
    ===============================================

    But what happens in the restroom at the airport in Minneapolis is everyone’s business.

  122. Posted May 7, 2009 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    You libtards really crack me up. I guess any pol with an “R” by their name is a conservative. Mark Foley? Mark Foley was never a conservative. That is until he was disgraced by the revelations of suggestive e-mails to young page boys. Same with Kolbe. Charlie Crist has been suspected of being queer for a long time and has never been thought of as being particularly conservative.

    You lefties are so pathetic. You condemn the right for being intolerent of Republican moderates and trying to purge them from the party, yet it is the left who does everything they can to destroy the moderates who should be their natural allies. You’re so quick to scream “McCarthyism” yet it is you that are on a witch hunt.

    “Are you now or have you ever been a homosexual”?

  123. Agnatha
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    “Help yourself. Give the percentage of atmospheric CO2 directly contributed by humans burning fossil fuels.

    “Show that is isn’t pathetically small. So small as to illicit hysterical laughter at your obsession.”

    Just in case anyone is counting, todays derailment of another thread into an off topic discussion of global warming was not brought to you by cosmos, but by cosmos’ personal stalker troll, SoldevVBullwinkle. But of course, cosmos played right along with it.

    I’ve discussed this topic plenty myself, but give it a rest guys, or take it to the open thread.

    Pluleeese.

  124. RoaCH
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    I’ve discussed this topic plenty myself
    ==========================================

    By yourself? With yourself? Strange.

    But it is obvious that the Cosmosphere cannot keep up with the science which soldevvb and others have spent years researching is falling on deaf ears.

    The climate has been changing and will always be changing. There are prehistoric snakes which have been found to have lived in a warmer climate but died in an ice age.

    The snakes must have been driving cars which caused the earth to warm and then to cool.
    Bet they weren’t hybrids either!!!

    It’s science. And it is slowly coming to light that GW is a bunch of BS at least as far as man’s influence that is.

  125. RoaCH
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    The rise in CO2 is natures way of replenishing the earth. Change is good. Just ask Obama.

  126. Wahine_Tara
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 6:27 pm | Permalink

    “The fact that someone is gay and doesn’t agree with gay marriage doesn’t make them a hypocrite.”

    Whaaaaat? Does anyone, anywhere, know of ANY openly gay person who opposes gay marriage or civil unions?

    I can’t imagine such a thing, I need proof!

    Openly gay people wouldn’t oppose equal privileges for gays…maybe just the not-so-open ones…for example virgin straight men who have to consciously choose to be straight every day…rofl

    See, you never see anyone attacking Log Cabin Republicans for being gay–what’s outrageous here is the hipocrisy!

  127. Regular
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 7:05 pm | Permalink

    I imagine there are ‘Romeos that are gay just like there are ‘Romeos’ that are straight.

    Neither one have no use for marriage and probably wouldn’t care to support the idea of it.

  128. Wahine_Tara
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    I should have clarified: there are gay people who don’t support any state-sponsored marriage, gay or straight. I think KFG was one of them.

    Find me an openly gay person who supports state-sponsored marriage/civil unions ONLY for heterosexuals and not for gay couples.

    Who are those people?

  129. Regular
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    I doubt you’ll find an openly gay person who supports state-sponsored marriage/civil unions ONLY for heterosexuals and not for gay couples.

    You’ll probably find lots of gay people who have resisted their gayness and are in positions of either traditional marriage or perhaps on clergy which position would not allow them to support gay marriage, but support traditional marriage. These people would adhere to the Word of God as the final authority.

    (expects to hear jokes about Catholic priest molesters and etc. from the usual suspects.)

  130. outlander
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    HONOLULU (AP) — Hawaii’s state Senate overwhelmingly approved a bill Wednesday to celebrate “Islam Day” — over the objections of a few lawmakers who said they didn’t want to honor a religion connected to the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

    ———

    WTH? Hey Tara, when is Christian Day in Hawaii?

  131. cosmos_originally
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    Watch Regular spin away . . .

  132. Regular
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    #
    cosmos_originally
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    Watch Regular spin away . . .
    ——————————
    I know you don’t recognize it cosmos, but what I’m doing is called mature discussion.

  133. Wahine_Tara
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    “WTH? Hey Tara, when is Christian Day in Hawaii?”

    Christmas? Although in my church it would more likely be Easter. After all, being born is the easy part :D

    Also, I don’t consider gay people who are trying to stuff themselves back in the closet as “openly gay”. Gay people forcing themselves to marry the opposite sex who close their eyes, grit their teeth and picture Brad Pitt in a Speedo during the deed are not openly gay.

    I imagine if you asked them they would claim to be straight, or “formerly gay”.

    But you might have a point about openly gay priests choosing celibacy over having gay OR straight relationships. I would respect that (it would take a lot of courage to “come out” as a Catholic priest), but would rather that the good Fr. please not force his faith onto the rest of the populace.

    That’s the only example I can think of.

  134. Posted May 7, 2009 at 8:20 pm | Permalink

    Homosexuals (whether in the closet or out) who don’t support the idea of homosexuals getting married must be hanging out with the reputable scientists who don’t go along with the party line on manmade global warming (er, I mean climate change. sorry). There are droves of them out there, but the mainstream media can never seem to find any and if they do they are presented as crackpots and idiots.

  135. RoaCH
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    I can guarantee this film will when the academy awards. It will be aclaimed as VONDERFUL!

    It will be shown worldwide.

  136. RoaCH
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    the party line on manmade global warming (er, I mean climate change. sorry).
    ============================================

    Yeah climate change is the new politically correct word. Makes em feel smmm art.

    They know it is BS. It is a scam to invent new and unique ways of taxing businesses and people. Utility bills WILL skyrocket.

    But there is NO PROOF that the new carbon credits will cut green house emmissions one particle.

  137. Wahine_Tara
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 8:25 pm | Permalink

    “WTH? Hey Tara, when is Christian Day in Hawaii?”

    Actually, I know it is off topic but this deserves a more thoughtful response.

    Good Friday and Christmas Day are both state (and federal) holidays. So our state actually has 2 “Christian Days”!

    Anyway, Hawaii really likes its “_______ Day”s. Kuhio and Kamehameha are both days off. I love it!

  138. RoaCH
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    In Memoriam
    With all the sadness and trauma going on in the world at the moment, it is worth reflecting on the death of a very important person, which almost went unnoticed last week. Larry LaPrise, the man who wrote “The Hokey Pokey”, died peacefully at age 93. The most traumatic part for his family was getting him into the coffin. They put his left leg in. And then the trouble started.

  139. Wahine_Tara
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

    Chrisfrommactown,

    I asked where are the openly gay people who support state marriage/civil unions because I cannot follow the logic.

    It’s seriously like a black person voting against black suffrage. What’s the motivation?

    That’s why I contend that openly gay people with that position do not exist (minus my concession to regular).

    Please, prove me wrong.

  140. RoaCH
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    Wahine by the shore,

    Do you speak Japanese yet? They own most of the islands you know.

    Sorry, but your commericalism is going to make you a declining destination. Besides, we burn an awful lot of CO2 Carbon getting there. Too costly for the environment and my pocketbook.

    Do you work Hotel Street?

  141. Posted May 7, 2009 at 8:51 pm | Permalink

    wahine_tara, if you want specific names of homosexuals who oppose the idea of homosexual marriage, I cannot give you any. However, contrary to what the media and the radical homosexuals would have you believe, not all homosexuals are screaming for marriage rights. They are content to live their lives quietly out of the public eye. Don’t try and confuse the issue by bringing up civil unions.

    I do know that after Prop 8 passed in California back in November, many homosexuals were horrified and embarrassed by the actions and behavior of the radicals who were carrying on so disgustingly.

  142. RoaCH
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 8:58 pm | Permalink

    Hawaii is over-rated, over-populated, overrun. There really isn’t much left “native” on Oahu. They shuffle the tourist to Waikiki beach and the hotels, Pearl Harbor (stopping to buy flowered shirts), and the pineapple demo on H3 I think it is.

    If they sign up for the rip-off northshore trip to the hawaiian native center, they see some halfling hawaiians servants pretending to re-enact the old way of life (before they all died of syphliss after the white man appeared).

    Blame it on the white man. But it wasn’t whitey who marched women and children off the cliff at the Pali Pass. Just indians killing indians.

    Anyway, there are better, more exotic places to visit without being overrun by Japanese tour buses.

  143. RoaCH
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    Not much different from the days of Captain Hook (I mean Cook).

    The natives slave away to please the white man so he can enjoy paradise.

    Only now the wahinees by the shore have to wear tops.

    But still slaves nonetheless.

  144. JimJohnson
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

    Huh?

    Outing of Gays?

    Why are they still hiding?

    They have been proclaimed to be normal now.

    Why is the Wichita Eagle attacking Gays still?

  145. JimJohnson
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    God, Guns, and Gays.

    Is that ALL the Wichita Eagle has to talk about?

    Why not a Permanent Global Warming topic?

  146. JimJohnson
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:13 pm | Permalink

    Doesn’t the Wichita Eagle care about saving the planet?!?

    Bring on a Global Warming topic!

  147. RoaCH
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:20 pm | Permalink

    Oh you are soo right JimJohnson! Without global warming, where would we all be now?

    I am so glad some other professionals here have challenged the poster Cosmos and demonstrated with science how cockamanie his theory is.

  148. RoaCH
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    I was sorta waiting for Tara to tell me about all her leis and leua’s, so I could shove them up her
    a ss.

  149. cosmos_originally
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    roach posted May 7, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Oh you are soo right JimJohnson! Without global warming, where would we all be now?

    I am so glad some other professionals here have challenged the poster Cosmos and demonstrated with science how cockamanie his theory is.
    ——————-

    donndublin, the “professional engineer”, found a scientist. . .

    donndublin posted May 6, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    Here’s another peer reviewed paper that refutes the AGW theory.
    ——————–

    http://www.ecd.bnl.gov/steve/schwartz.html

  150. Boxlock20
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    I think there are a lot of ‘gays’ that may lean that way but still in their heart and soul know that it is….well, queer, and just a soon not make a big public deal of it. And that doubly applies to the oxymoron of gay marriage.

  151. Jed
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    Tara,
    “Whaaaaat? Does anyone, anywhere, know of ANY openly gay person who opposes gay marriage or civil unions?”

    Actually I used to know a couple. One was a catholic priest.

  152. cosmos_originally
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    Jed,

    Know any who are politicians, who campaign against gay rights?

  153. JimJohnson
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    Boxlock20
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:33 pm | Permalink
    I think there are a lot of ‘gays’ that may lean that way but still in their heart and soul know that it is….well, queer, and just a soon not make a big public deal of it. And that doubly applies to the oxymoron of gay marriage.
    =========================

    Oh not any more. Now there are 3 states where these qu eers can go to get a piece of paper that tells them they are normal.

    It says officially,

    That they are no longer QU EER.

    They are married but tfuc kers, or bush smashers, joined under secular sponsored matrimony.

    What the State joins together, let no man or woman or thing put assunder.

  154. JimJohnson
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:47 pm | Permalink

    Gosh,

    This would be sorta like Al Gore campaigning against CO2 emissions flying around in his big jet aeroplane and belching tons of CO2 into the sky.

  155. WSClark
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:49 pm | Permalink

    Just out of curiosity, Box, can you name one, just one, gay person that says they CHOSE to be gay?

    Not a bunch of them, but just ONE……

  156. JimJohnson
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    Gay Supreme Court Justice!

    Won’t that be just Special!

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/07/senate-judiciary-republican-open-gay-supreme-court-justice/

    Among the potential candidates to replace retiring Supreme Court Justice David Souter are two openly gay women who some Republicans, including Sen. John Thune, think may be a bridge too far.

  157. RoaCH
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    Come on Box. Name a queer.

  158. Wahine_Tara
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    “Do you work Hotel Street?”
    “I was sorta waiting for Tara to tell me about all her leis and leua’s”

    Who are you again? Have we met?

    You seemed to be unnaturally obsessed with my sexuality.

    I’m taken, I’m afraid, and probably a bit out of you league.

  159. Boxlock20
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    WS,
    I really know of only one openly gay person and I consider him to be a friend, we just don’t go there.
    He knows I don’t think it’s a health way to live and I like him as a person enough to leave him alone about it.
    I don’t dislike or want any harm to come to gays, but theirs is a lifestyle choice and not deserving of the benefits of civil marriage.
    By the way WS, the question of choosing to be gay is irrelevant. And choosing to be gay and to engage in gay sex are two entirely different things.

  160. Boxlock20
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    “Come on Box. Name a queer.”

    RoaCH….now quit it, you are making me laugh.
    I’m trying to wind down for sleep and you aren’t helping.

  161. Boxlock20
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    Who I don’t like, and will not toleratem are the militantly political gay activists trying to change the recorded history of the meaning of marriage.

  162. WSClark
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    “By the way WS, the question of choosing to be gay is irrelevant. And choosing to be gay and to engage in gay sex are two entirely different things.”

    Huh?

    What should gay folks do – pretend to be straight?

  163. Boxlock20
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    that’s ‘tolerate;, not ‘toleratem’, a typo.

  164. Boxlock20
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

    “What should gay folks do – pretend to be straight?”

    They can just be people.

  165. Boxlock20
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    Gosh, WS….we have been civil.
    I think I’m going to quit while we’re ahead on that.
    Night all,

  166. Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    Do you work Hotel Street?
    ================================

    Does Cherry?

  167. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 7, 2009 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    So it’s not gays you hate, it’s people who act like sissies!

    Now that’s a solid foundation for a political party!

    No Liberace but you’d totally do Rock Hudson.

    Now I understand.

  168. HappyHeathen
    Posted May 8, 2009 at 2:20 am | Permalink

    A powerful speech…..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrEbJBFWIPk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fopen%2Esalon%2Ecom%2Fcover&feature=player_embedded

  169. Jed
    Posted May 8, 2009 at 4:42 am | Permalink

    Cos,
    “Know any who are politicians, who campaign against gay rights?”

    Nope, but I generally avoid politicians whenever possible. I hear rumors just like everyone else, although some of my sources are a bit closer to the horse’s whatever.
    I’m also considerably averse to outing anyone; I figure a person’s orientation is his own business under most circumstances. I might be tempted to out someone who used his orientation to blackmail or out others, or a closeted gay who inflicted persecution on gay people. I’d also be tempted to out people (gay or hetero) who claimed to be upright moralists and used their position to coerce or force sexual favors from others, or accuse others of immorality while hiding his own. I’ve been tempted, but so far I haven’t yielded to it. So far.

  170. Agnatha
    Posted May 8, 2009 at 7:04 am | Permalink

    “By yourself? With yourself? Strange.

    “But it is obvious that the Cosmosphere cannot keep up with the science which soldevvb and others have spent years researching is falling on deaf ears.”

    Re: The (cock)RoaCH
    DNFTT

  171. Boxlock20
    Posted May 8, 2009 at 7:53 am | Permalink

    “I might be tempted to out someone who used his orientation to blackmail or out others, or a closeted gay who inflicted persecution on gay people. I’d also be tempted to out people (gay or hetero) who claimed to be upright moralists and used their position to coerce or force sexual favors from others, or accuse others of immorality while hiding his own. I’ve been tempted, but so far I haven’t yielded to it. So far.”–Jed

    You know a lot of people like that?
    Just the circle you run in I guess.

  172. SolDevVB
    Posted May 8, 2009 at 7:56 am | Permalink

    Do you elect officials to represent their own personal values or the values of the constituents?

    If there is a g_ay representative serving in office whose constituents hold a strong hetero leaning, isn’t that representative bound by duty to represent the voice of those who elected him/her? I say bully for putting your personal values aside and being the voice for those whom elected you.

    Same goes for a hetero representative voicing the pro g_ay/les_bian plank. The representative is there as a voice of his/her people.

    To attack that person’s personal life for standing up and speaking out as the voice of those that elected him/her is nothing short of vindictive.

  173. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 8, 2009 at 8:33 am | Permalink

    “SolDevVB” posits –

    “If there is a g_ay representative serving in office whose constituents hold a strong hetero leaning, isn’t that representative bound by duty to represent the voice of those who elected him/her? “

    Fair enough question.

    Then why shouldn’t that person be honest about it?

    Present it that way.

    Don’t demonize homosexuality; just promise to “represent the constituency.”

    That’s precisely the way Kathleen Sebelius has always approached the reproductive rights issue and you CONs have never stopped vilifying her. In fact, that’s precisely the way Sam (the Sham) Brownback rationalized his vote to confirm Sebelius as Secretary of HHS and the advocates of illegal abortion castigated him.

  174. SolDevVB
    Posted May 8, 2009 at 8:52 am | Permalink

    Why does a politician’s sexual preference have to be in the forefront?

  175. Monkeyhawk
    Posted May 8, 2009 at 8:56 am | Permalink

    “SolDevVB” whines –

    “Why does a politician’s sexual preference have to be in the forefront?”

    Take that up with WE Blog CONs who wallow in bashing Barney Frank.

  176. ANTI
    Posted May 8, 2009 at 9:00 am | Permalink

    Take that up with WE Blog CONs who wallow in bashing Barney Frank.
    ==========================================

    I don’t care that Frank is a homo.

    I bash him because he is a two-faced liar.

  177. SolDevVB
    Posted May 8, 2009 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    I bash him because he is a two-faced liar.

    You got that right brother. And dirty as the day is long.

    BTW, is he “openly” gay?

  178. Jed
    Posted May 8, 2009 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    Boxic,
    “Just the circle you run in I guess.”

    I don’t run in circles; I’ll leave that to you and yours.

  179. Boxlock20
    Posted May 8, 2009 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    Jed,
    You’re probably right, you don’t run in circles as no one will let you in or close to them.

  180. Posted May 8, 2009 at 7:01 pm | Permalink

    ChrisfromCrapTown writes: You lefties are so pathetic. You condemn the right for being intolerent of Republican moderates and trying to purge them from the party, yet it is the left who does everything they can to destroy the moderates

    Asking people to be honest about their sexuality, especially when they discriminate against others for the same sexuality, is NOT destroying anybody.

  181. Posted May 8, 2009 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    BTW, Ray Cohn, Larry Craig, Ed Schrock and Mayor West from Seattle were NOT moderate.

  182. Jed
    Posted May 10, 2009 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    Cap’n,
    Come on! They are only moderately gay.