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	<title>Comments on: Can conservatives govern if they are anti-government?</title>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574677</link>
		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 09:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marty,
&quot;Jed, you don’t need a “legitimate reason for owning one (a gun)” in America. You have the RIGHT to own one, without any reason needed.&quot;

Okay, what the founding fathers approved, and we should respect their wishes here, was for the unregulated ownership of muzzle-loading flintlock single-shot rifles and pistols. I see nothing in the constitution giving anybody the right to automatic handguns and assault rifles, or any gun that loads from the breech or shoots multiple rounds between loadings. For those, you need registration, and with registration comes responsibilities. If your gun is used in the commission of a crime, and it wasn&#039;t reported stolen prior to the crime, you&#039;re responsible! If your kid takes them (even if he jimmies your gun safe) and shoots the school bully and the math teacher, you&#039;re responsible.
And since you&#039;ll be of course in a well ordered militia, you&#039;ll need the requisite three-cornered hats and go drill every weekend, rain or shine, and have your photos and fingerprints and DNA on file with the authorities, along with serial numbers and a representative fired bullet from each gun.Then it might be barely acceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marty,<br />
&#8220;Jed, you don’t need a “legitimate reason for owning one (a gun)” in America. You have the RIGHT to own one, without any reason needed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay, what the founding fathers approved, and we should respect their wishes here, was for the unregulated ownership of muzzle-loading flintlock single-shot rifles and pistols. I see nothing in the constitution giving anybody the right to automatic handguns and assault rifles, or any gun that loads from the breech or shoots multiple rounds between loadings. For those, you need registration, and with registration comes responsibilities. If your gun is used in the commission of a crime, and it wasn&#8217;t reported stolen prior to the crime, you&#8217;re responsible! If your kid takes them (even if he jimmies your gun safe) and shoots the school bully and the math teacher, you&#8217;re responsible.<br />
And since you&#8217;ll be of course in a well ordered militia, you&#8217;ll need the requisite three-cornered hats and go drill every weekend, rain or shine, and have your photos and fingerprints and DNA on file with the authorities, along with serial numbers and a representative fired bullet from each gun.Then it might be barely acceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574671</link>
		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 08:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indie,
As I see it, the folks who desperatly want guns (and I&#039;m not talking about a single girl in an inner city who actually is subect to crimes) are generally the ones the society least needs to have thei own private arsenals. I believe that those who apply for a gun permit should have a spotless police record, pass an IQ test and an MMPI as well. I&#039;m also inclined to put a tax on each round of ammunition to the tune of $25-50,and the equivalent on reloading supplies, accompanied by a signed prescription written by a practicing trauma surgeon- the guy who may have to take them out of whoever our gunsel shoots. Do that and I&#039;ll be a bit more warm to your cause. Double the penalties for possession of machine guns and conversion kits and put a life sentence on possession of bombs or bomb-making supplies, and a mandatory lethal injection for murder with a gun or bomb or other strictly military ordnance and we&#039;ll all rest safer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indie,<br />
As I see it, the folks who desperatly want guns (and I&#8217;m not talking about a single girl in an inner city who actually is subect to crimes) are generally the ones the society least needs to have thei own private arsenals. I believe that those who apply for a gun permit should have a spotless police record, pass an IQ test and an MMPI as well. I&#8217;m also inclined to put a tax on each round of ammunition to the tune of $25-50,and the equivalent on reloading supplies, accompanied by a signed prescription written by a practicing trauma surgeon- the guy who may have to take them out of whoever our gunsel shoots. Do that and I&#8217;ll be a bit more warm to your cause. Double the penalties for possession of machine guns and conversion kits and put a life sentence on possession of bombs or bomb-making supplies, and a mandatory lethal injection for murder with a gun or bomb or other strictly military ordnance and we&#8217;ll all rest safer.</p>
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		<title>By: Indie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574668</link>
		<dc:creator>Indie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 08:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmmm 

Name calling is so grammar school --- but then this IS  Kansas where it&#039;s still 10 years ago ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmmm </p>
<p>Name calling is so grammar school &#8212; but then this IS  Kansas where it&#8217;s still 10 years ago &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Indie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574667</link>
		<dc:creator>Indie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 08:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Conservatives are NOT anti-Government.
Conservatives are ANTI-HUGE-GOVERNMENT.
With more Government Control, comes less Freedom.
Freedom, you know, the word that hasn’t been in the Democrat Dictionary since JFK.

Intersting -- the current move toward BIG Republican Style Government actually began with Tom Delay and the Contract with America Folks in 92 / 94. It was one of the reasons Gingrich lost his Speakers seat in 98 I believe -- the GOP blamed him for the expansion of gov&#039;t he helped engineer. 

.. and the GOP conservatives here it seems wants a small government so no one can look over their shoulder to protect the consumer - they got the financial deregulation beginning with Reagan that started the creation of the monster housing bubble that began in the 90s ... and they want a government that can look over every one else, and into every corner of a persons life -- if they could get away with it they would declare Jesus Dad, as the Official GOD of the country ---</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Conservatives are NOT anti-Government.<br />
Conservatives are ANTI-HUGE-GOVERNMENT.<br />
With more Government Control, comes less Freedom.<br />
Freedom, you know, the word that hasn’t been in the Democrat Dictionary since JFK.</p>
<p>Intersting &#8212; the current move toward BIG Republican Style Government actually began with Tom Delay and the Contract with America Folks in 92 / 94. It was one of the reasons Gingrich lost his Speakers seat in 98 I believe &#8212; the GOP blamed him for the expansion of gov&#8217;t he helped engineer. </p>
<p>.. and the GOP conservatives here it seems wants a small government so no one can look over their shoulder to protect the consumer &#8211; they got the financial deregulation beginning with Reagan that started the creation of the monster housing bubble that began in the 90s &#8230; and they want a government that can look over every one else, and into every corner of a persons life &#8212; if they could get away with it they would declare Jesus Dad, as the Official GOD of the country &#8212;</p>
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		<title>By: Indie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574664</link>
		<dc:creator>Indie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 08:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct, by the constitution you do not need a reason to own a gun. 

But you have already stated in way or another, that not everyone (felons) should not have that right (we take away their right to vote) --- Don&#039;t you think it a good idea that a gun buyer should pass a competency test of some sort? Not an IQ test, a rules test, perhaps some sort of skills test?  ... and what of those that are known to be mentally incompetent to understand the responsibility of gun ownership - do they get a free pass in spite of their illness?  Should an 8 yr old be allowed? We dont let people vote til thier 18 and thats a right -- AND you have to register to vote. Almost every gun owner knows someone who should not have a gun -- scary that they rarely say anything until its too late ----- 

... and if you are so passionate about it and feel its your responsibility to protect your family and society, why don&#039;t you organize the most avid amongst you,  go to the gang neighborhoods and get some real practice on ahhhh self defense ?  I&#039;d rather do it from behind my moat and from the turrets on my house ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct, by the constitution you do not need a reason to own a gun. </p>
<p>But you have already stated in way or another, that not everyone (felons) should not have that right (we take away their right to vote) &#8212; Don&#8217;t you think it a good idea that a gun buyer should pass a competency test of some sort? Not an IQ test, a rules test, perhaps some sort of skills test?  &#8230; and what of those that are known to be mentally incompetent to understand the responsibility of gun ownership &#8211; do they get a free pass in spite of their illness?  Should an 8 yr old be allowed? We dont let people vote til thier 18 and thats a right &#8212; AND you have to register to vote. Almost every gun owner knows someone who should not have a gun &#8212; scary that they rarely say anything until its too late &#8212;&#8211; </p>
<p>&#8230; and if you are so passionate about it and feel its your responsibility to protect your family and society, why don&#8217;t you organize the most avid amongst you,  go to the gang neighborhoods and get some real practice on ahhhh self defense ?  I&#8217;d rather do it from behind my moat and from the turrets on my house &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Indie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574657</link>
		<dc:creator>Indie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 07:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Obama got hisself a new Cadillac Armored Limo, not the same as what GWB had.&quot;

But it was approved and built under the Bush administration thinking it was for the coming Republican administration --- a real stretch as  usual to try to blame Obama --- look at the billion dollar deal the Bushies for new helicopters for the President --- I do believe he told Gates to trim that back if he cant eliminate it. 


The number of threats against the president seem to have increased -- hmmmm I wonder why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obama got hisself a new Cadillac Armored Limo, not the same as what GWB had.&#8221;</p>
<p>But it was approved and built under the Bush administration thinking it was for the coming Republican administration &#8212; a real stretch as  usual to try to blame Obama &#8212; look at the billion dollar deal the Bushies for new helicopters for the President &#8212; I do believe he told Gates to trim that back if he cant eliminate it. </p>
<p>The number of threats against the president seem to have increased &#8212; hmmmm I wonder why?</p>
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		<title>By: MartyG</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574646</link>
		<dc:creator>MartyG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 06:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jed, you don&#039;t need a &quot;legitimate reason for owning one (a gun)&quot; in America.  You have the RIGHT to own one, without any reason needed.  You don&#039;t have to justify a Constitutional right!  Nor should you have to explain why you want one, or offer any justification.  Unless you are a felon, or otherwise are not allowed this basic RIGHT, no explanation is necessary.  If you got up on a soapbox to speak, would you have to have a legitimate reason?  If you chose to attend any particular church, does your action have to be &quot;approved?&quot;  
Once we start registering, and getting approval for, and justifying gun ownership, we have jeopardized that right, subject to the &quot;approval&quot; of the state.  That is NOT how it is supposed to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jed, you don&#8217;t need a &#8220;legitimate reason for owning one (a gun)&#8221; in America.  You have the RIGHT to own one, without any reason needed.  You don&#8217;t have to justify a Constitutional right!  Nor should you have to explain why you want one, or offer any justification.  Unless you are a felon, or otherwise are not allowed this basic RIGHT, no explanation is necessary.  If you got up on a soapbox to speak, would you have to have a legitimate reason?  If you chose to attend any particular church, does your action have to be &#8220;approved?&#8221;<br />
Once we start registering, and getting approval for, and justifying gun ownership, we have jeopardized that right, subject to the &#8220;approval&#8221; of the state.  That is NOT how it is supposed to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574550</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 02:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jed,

I think you misunderstood my question, here it is again:

The most reasonable restrictions? Really? Name some of these “reasonable” restrictions and why you think they should be passed. i.e. what they will do. (You know, besides annoy gun owners)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jed,</p>
<p>I think you misunderstood my question, here it is again:</p>
<p>The most reasonable restrictions? Really? Name some of these “reasonable” restrictions and why you think they should be passed. i.e. what they will do. (You know, besides annoy gun owners)</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574538</link>
		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 01:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan,
Gee, annoying gun nuts ought to be enough! By the way, in case you haven&#039;t picked up on the distinction by now, I&#039;m not particularly anti-gun; what I am is anti-gun-nuts. 
Okay, let&#039;s see. If you&#039;re the crack shot you claim to be, why on earth do you need 16-18 round clips in your handgun? Or an assault rifle? Just because you like its looks? C&#039;mon! You got fantasies boy, or do they have you? Guns are real world; we don&#039;t need paranoids playing out their delusions with real bullets. Get a stick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan,<br />
Gee, annoying gun nuts ought to be enough! By the way, in case you haven&#8217;t picked up on the distinction by now, I&#8217;m not particularly anti-gun; what I am is anti-gun-nuts.<br />
Okay, let&#8217;s see. If you&#8217;re the crack shot you claim to be, why on earth do you need 16-18 round clips in your handgun? Or an assault rifle? Just because you like its looks? C&#8217;mon! You got fantasies boy, or do they have you? Guns are real world; we don&#8217;t need paranoids playing out their delusions with real bullets. Get a stick!</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574486</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 23:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jed,

The most reasonable restrictions?  Really?  Name some of these &quot;reasonable&quot; restrictions and why you think they should be passed.  i.e. what they will do.  (You know, besides annoy gun owners)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jed,</p>
<p>The most reasonable restrictions?  Really?  Name some of these &#8220;reasonable&#8221; restrictions and why you think they should be passed.  i.e. what they will do.  (You know, besides annoy gun owners)</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574484</link>
		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 22:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan,
Annoys? It must be something far more than annoying that gets you nuts to hand over all that hard cash the NRA uses to lobby against even the most reasonable restrictions on firearms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan,<br />
Annoys? It must be something far more than annoying that gets you nuts to hand over all that hard cash the NRA uses to lobby against even the most reasonable restrictions on firearms.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574478</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 22:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jed,

Figures.  You are nothing more than the typical anti-gun liberal.

You don&#039;t care about the practicality of the laws you want to pass, as long as it annoys gun owners.

And you wonder why we are opposed to such measures when you can&#039;t even explain how they will do anything?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jed,</p>
<p>Figures.  You are nothing more than the typical anti-gun liberal.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t care about the practicality of the laws you want to pass, as long as it annoys gun owners.</p>
<p>And you wonder why we are opposed to such measures when you can&#8217;t even explain how they will do anything?</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574474</link>
		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 22:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan,
It must do something if all of you nuts are so desperately terrified of it. That&#039;ll do for the time being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan,<br />
It must do something if all of you nuts are so desperately terrified of it. That&#8217;ll do for the time being.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574469</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 22:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jed,

So... how exactly does gun registration do anything again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jed,</p>
<p>So&#8230; how exactly does gun registration do anything again?</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574464</link>
		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 21:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Jimbo, most people who get shot are shot by people who were at least technically law-abiding until they pulled that trigger. Career criminals generally know what they&#039;re doing, and know what happens when they actually shoot someone. It&#039;s the scared amateurs and wannabes and just plain irate you really have to watch out for; you know, the ones without criminal records that might keep them from getting a registered gun! 
And of course crooks won&#039;t register their guns, but over time those unregistered guns will be used in crimes and show up in the system and they and their owners taken out of circulation. If you have a legitimate reason for owning one, why in hell are you so afraid of registering it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Jimbo, most people who get shot are shot by people who were at least technically law-abiding until they pulled that trigger. Career criminals generally know what they&#8217;re doing, and know what happens when they actually shoot someone. It&#8217;s the scared amateurs and wannabes and just plain irate you really have to watch out for; you know, the ones without criminal records that might keep them from getting a registered gun!<br />
And of course crooks won&#8217;t register their guns, but over time those unregistered guns will be used in crimes and show up in the system and they and their owners taken out of circulation. If you have a legitimate reason for owning one, why in hell are you so afraid of registering it?</p>
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		<title>By: JimJohnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574460</link>
		<dc:creator>JimJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 21:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jed, what makes you think the Meth-Heads next door would register their guns?

They wouldn&#039;t.

And you would not know what they had.

You would only know what law abiding people had.

For what purpose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jed, what makes you think the Meth-Heads next door would register their guns?</p>
<p>They wouldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>And you would not know what they had.</p>
<p>You would only know what law abiding people had.</p>
<p>For what purpose?</p>
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		<title>By: JimJohnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574459</link>
		<dc:creator>JimJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 21:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jalopnik/2009/01/new_Presidential_limo.jpg

(Details of Obama&#039;s Tank.  Windows don&#039;t even roll down.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jalopnik/2009/01/new_Presidential_limo.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jalopnik/2009/01/new_Presidential_limo.jpg</a></p>
<p>(Details of Obama&#8217;s Tank.  Windows don&#8217;t even roll down.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574458</link>
		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 21:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimbo,
&quot;“..the Right of Each Citizen to KEEP and BEAR arms…”&quot;

Now if we could just draft all the gun nuts into a &quot;well ordered militia,&quot; maybe they could keep a proper lid on you. Until then, we ought to register guns so we can at least keep an eye on you.
I&#039;ve had meth-head neighbors at times, and I&#039;d just as soon know what they have that&#039;s lethal (and have some way of separating them from it), because I probably won&#039;t know when they&#039;re tweaking until bullets come through my living room wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimbo,<br />
&#8220;“..the Right of Each Citizen to KEEP and BEAR arms…”&#8221;</p>
<p>Now if we could just draft all the gun nuts into a &#8220;well ordered militia,&#8221; maybe they could keep a proper lid on you. Until then, we ought to register guns so we can at least keep an eye on you.<br />
I&#8217;ve had meth-head neighbors at times, and I&#8217;d just as soon know what they have that&#8217;s lethal (and have some way of separating them from it), because I probably won&#8217;t know when they&#8217;re tweaking until bullets come through my living room wall.</p>
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		<title>By: JimJohnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574457</link>
		<dc:creator>JimJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 21:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.defence.pk/forums/general-images-multimedia/20044-obamas-beast-james-bond-edition-latest-car-bunker-revealed.html

These are the first pictures of the new armoured limousine which will be used to ferry Barack Obama around. 

Nicknamed &quot;The Beast&quot;, the Cadillac will make its debut on 20 January, as part of the inaugural parade. 

(Funny, it&#039;s called &quot;The Beast&quot;.  Plate #666?)</description>
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<p>These are the first pictures of the new armoured limousine which will be used to ferry Barack Obama around. </p>
<p>Nicknamed &#8220;The Beast&#8221;, the Cadillac will make its debut on 20 January, as part of the inaugural parade. </p>
<p>(Funny, it&#8217;s called &#8220;The Beast&#8221;.  Plate #666?)</p>
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		<title>By: JimJohnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574456</link>
		<dc:creator>JimJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 21:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope,

Obama got hisself a new Cadillac Armored Limo, not the same as what GWB had.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/06/obama-gets-new-presidential-limo/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope,</p>
<p>Obama got hisself a new Cadillac Armored Limo, not the same as what GWB had.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/06/obama-gets-new-presidential-limo/" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/06/obama-gets-new-presidential-limo/</a></p>
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		<title>By: BlueJay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574455</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 21:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Obama on the other hand, rides around in an Armored Limo Tank.&quot;

   So did georgie bush.

    Except HE also had people stationed on all four sides of him IN the vehicle. I know because a friend of mine saw it when she went to flip him off as he was paraded through town.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obama on the other hand, rides around in an Armored Limo Tank.&#8221;</p>
<p>   So did georgie bush.</p>
<p>    Except HE also had people stationed on all four sides of him IN the vehicle. I know because a friend of mine saw it when she went to flip him off as he was paraded through town.</p>
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		<title>By: JimJohnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574453</link>
		<dc:creator>JimJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 21:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Only when our arms are sufficient, without doubt, 
can we be certain, without doubt, that they will never be employed.&quot;

John F. Kennedy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Only when our arms are sufficient, without doubt,<br />
can we be certain, without doubt, that they will never be employed.&#8221;</p>
<p>John F. Kennedy</p>
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		<title>By: JimJohnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574451</link>
		<dc:creator>JimJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 21:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and what has happened to the murder rate since mail-order guns were banned in 1968?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and what has happened to the murder rate since mail-order guns were banned in 1968?</p>
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		<title>By: JimJohnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574450</link>
		<dc:creator>JimJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 21:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JFK clearly supporting gun rights.

And JFK knew he was taking a risk in riding through Dallas in a convertibile with no roof.

He also knew he needed to win Texas in the 64 elections if he was going to earn a 2nd Term.

Obama on the other hand, rides around in an Armored Limo Tank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JFK clearly supporting gun rights.</p>
<p>And JFK knew he was taking a risk in riding through Dallas in a convertibile with no roof.</p>
<p>He also knew he needed to win Texas in the 64 elections if he was going to earn a 2nd Term.</p>
<p>Obama on the other hand, rides around in an Armored Limo Tank.</p>
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		<title>By: JimJohnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/05/can-conservatives-govern-if-they-are-anti-government/#comment-574446</link>
		<dc:creator>JimJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 21:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOTE:

&quot;..the Right of Each Citizen to KEEP and BEAR arms...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOTE:</p>
<p>&#8220;..the Right of Each Citizen to KEEP and BEAR arms&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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