Plans for the former Union Station sound promising and are an example of how the Intrust Bank Arena is spurring redevelopment, even in a down economy. Phil Frigon of Cantilever Wichita hopes to close on purchasing Union Station in the next 90 to 120 days and plans tenant announcements soon after. Steve Martens of Grubb & Ellis/Martens Commercial Group said that the arena’s proximity was a big factor in marketing the landmark building, which first opened in 1914. And as Jeff Fluhr, president of the Wichita Downtown Development Corp., noted, “adding retail and hospitality to the arena neighborhood is a huge win for downtown.”
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What happened to the plan for Union Station to serve the proposed AMTRAK route that might pass through Wichita from the current east-west AMTRAK railroad line at Newton, south to Oklahoma and Texas?
Once again, no plan except in someone’s garbled mind on how best to use quasi-public facilities.
Actually the Intrust Arena site might be needed for arena parking, as originally planned, when the U.S. returns to fast surface trains for interstate travel.
Trains JWink? If we had that then it’d be easier for people from out of town to come to arena events, lower the need for parking and increase the use of mass transit. That’s a bit too progressive and common sense for this community.
What we truly need is another building that will host the same sort of businesses that are already littered throughout Old Town.
Already spurring development…..
Great then lets lower property taxes to compensate for the tax dollars thrown away on the arena. Give us some money back. Isn’t that what an investment of our tax dollars is all about? Getting a return instead of just more and more tax increases to spur more and more development?
Progressiveness is a never ending burden on society.
Progressiveness: another name for “liberal”
KSGolfnut: another name for moron.
JMWalker,
I see you contributing your best posting as usual.
No opinions on the subject.
No counter to the opinion of others.
Just troll like insults meant to flame.
Guess you are no better than the worst of them.
. . . and KSGolfnut IS contributing? How progressive of you to fail to point that out.
Golfnut posted an opinion which was that progressive thinking is a claim associated with liberals.
It is an opinion.
Do you disagree with that statement?
Oh come on amway, your biased thinking couldn’t come out with any other conclusion, even though it’s as senseless as KSGolfnut’s statement. Without progressive thinking, we’d be living in caves; women would still be relegated to the kitchen, fat and pregnant; blacks would still be slaves.
I stand by my post: KSGolfnut is a moron. As such, it’s an opinion that carries as much weight, and probably more, then KSGolfnut’s does. Get over it.
Did I say anything against progressive thinking?
So you disagree that liberals claim to be more progressive thinking than conservatives – or that conservatives are not progressive in their thinking?
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American_Way
Posted May 20, 2009 at 9:17 am | Permalink
Golfnut posted an opinion which was that progressive thinking is a claim associated with liberals.
It is an opinion.
Do you disagree with that statement?
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American_Way
Posted May 20, 2009 at 9:52 am | Permalink
Did I say anything against progressive thinking?
So you disagree that liberals claim to be more progressive thinking than conservatives – or that conservatives are not progressive in their thinking?
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Of course you never said anything about progressive thinking, even though you posted it.
And of course Liberals are progressive thinkers, as opposed to Conservatives, who are regressive thinkers. It’s been that way since Galileo, a progressive thinker, proclaimed the earth not to be the center of the universe, and the regressive thinkers, Conservatives, sentenced him to house arrest for the rest of his life for defying the Biblical teachings.
But keep on spinning, amway, it’s your bread and butter. You obviously know no other way.
And of course Liberals are progressive thinkers
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Enslavement by the Government is ‘progressive’?
Duh Libs get easily insulted. People like JMWalker think a comment made in general is a comment directed at him.
I probably get directly slammed by duh Libs on WE Blog several times a day whether I sign into the Blog or not.
Also, just look at all the CON this and CON that – yes – I think JMWalker along with the other Libs are extremely thin skinned.
Hypocrites
Walker writes (spins):
“Of course you never said anything about progressive thinking, even though you posted it.”
Notice the word, “anything”?
Here is what American Way posted:
Did I say anything against progressive thinking?
Walker writes (spins):
“And of course Liberals are progressive thinkers, as opposed to Conservatives, who are regressive thinkers.”
Here is what KCGOLFNUT posted:
Progressiveness: another name for “liberal”
( which below Walker confirms is correct)
Walker writes (spins):
“But keep on spinning, amway, it’s your bread and butter. You obviously know no other way.”
It is very obvious who is doing the spinning Walker
( which below Walker aboved confirmed is correct))
Should read: Which ABOVE Walker confirmed as correct thinking.
Actually, amway, reg and anti, I’m laughing my substantial hinny off at how easy it is to turn you into raving lunatics. Thanks for making my day.
Actually, amway, reg and anti, I’m laughing my substantial hinny off at how easy it is to turn you into raving lunatics
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I already was one.
You did nothing to change that.
Sorry, try someone else next time.
Actually JMWalker your initial post to KCGolfnuts was a troll flaming post. Everything else was just window dressing on your part to cover.
I’m glad I could set you straight for all to see.
You’re welcome!
Actually, amway, golfnuts original post was a flaming troll post. I just pointed out the stupidity of the regressive conservative mind.
I’m glad I could set you straight for all to see.
You’re welcome!
Walker has turned into a whiner, sad.
Isn’t it a bit much to think the arena is the catalyst for this? Can someone point out an example where an arena or stadium really spurred real estate development.
Please don’t say the Power and Light district.
The P&L district was built b/c of TIF subsidy and eminent domain abuse.
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Regular
Posted May 20, 2009 at 11:26 am | Permalink
Walker has turned into a whiner, sad.
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Wow, slap a troll, and reg calls you a whiner. But then again, coming from reg, I consider that a compliment. Thanks, troll.
haha! Walker calls anyone with a different opinion troll. Sad
“haha! Walker calls anyone with a different opinion troll. Sad”
I was going to say Walker sounds angry, but he did say thanks and you’re welcome.
How nice. Someone might be able to make money from the investment I was forced to make.
Can I get my money back now?
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ProudMan
Posted May 20, 2009 at 12:50 pm | Permalink
How nice. Someone might be able to make money from the investment I was forced to make.
Can I get my money back now?
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The sales tax? What was stopping you from driving North, South, West, or East across the county line to make your purchases?
Well done Daniel.
Or the intranet as well.
“across the county line to make your purchases?”
In some states you can’t do that. You have to giver your zip code before purchase so they can rip I mean charge you that rate.
I think auto sales tax is based upon your county of residence in Kansas.
I think auto sales tax is based upon your county of residence in Kansas.
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Yep, a buddy of mine just bought a used bike down in Tulsa and got nipped for the sales tax when he went to tag it in Sedgwick county.
Gosh, ol’ Walker really got his panties in a wad over my earlier statement about liberals.
*shock*
Fact: “Progressivism” is a term by which liberals generally LOVE to be referred. Perhaps Mr. Walker construes that term in the pejorative. I cannot speak to the reasoning that drove him to be so defensive up-thread.
My opinion on progressive legislation: if it clearly fixes a clearly defined problem, great. If it steers us away from the fundamental tenets that enabled the US to become the most successful country on the planet in just 200 years and change, all in the name of reform, then not-so-great.
Those fundamental tenets? Laissez-faire, personal responsibility, tradional family values, small government, strong national defense…
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Daniel
Posted May 20, 2009 at 1:12 pm | Permalink
The sales tax? What was stopping you from driving North, South, West, or East across the county line to make your purchases?
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You cannot expect people to effectively ‘just move’ everytime something happens they don’t like. Why should I have to bear the expense and time lost going outside the tax district? After all this was sold as an investment in the community. If it’s going to start paying off I should expect a return on my investment.
I actually did go down to Wellington to buy furniture. They charged me the arena tax based on where they had to deliver the items.
As for shopping on the Internet to avoid taxes, keep that in mind next time you fill out your KS income tax. It specifically asks for the amount of purchases made on-line so that taxes can be assessed.
“Those fundamental tenets? Laissez-faire, personal responsibility, tradional family values, small government, strong national defense…”
Pi$$ on that and you. All that is is rich little twerps like you getting richer.
Pi$$ on that and you. All that is is rich little twerps like you getting richer.
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Uh oh, I think someone has a dirty diaper!
Uh oh, I think someone has a dirty diaper!
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Hahahaha! That made me laugh outloud.
Yah right.