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Here’s a story that should make the anti-gay marriage folks happy. An 8 year old cannot divorce her 47 year old husband. Using biblical principles of selling your daughter into slavery, the girl’s dad sold her to pay off some debts. So the marriage passes Boxlock’s, umm, god’s test for a proper marriage. The girl’s mother wanted the divorce but she’s merely property so who cares what she thinks.
Saudi judge refuses to annul 8-year-old’s marriage
A Saudi judge has refused for a second time to annul a marriage between an 8-year-old girl and a 47-year-old man, a relative of the girl told CNN.
The most recent ruling, in which the judge upheld his original verdict, was handed down Saturday in the Saudi city of Onaiza, where late last year the same judge rejected a petition from the girl’s mother, who was seeking a divorce for her daughter.
The relative said the judge, Sheikh Habib Al-Habib, “stuck by his earlier verdict and insisted that the girl could petition the court for a divorce once she reached puberty.” The family member, who requested anonymity, added that the mother will continue to pursue a divorce for her daughter.
More of god’s rules for marriage at:
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/04/12/saudi.child.marriage/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
Here’s another leaked DHS document that will soon be big news…much like the MIAC report, but with more pepper:
http://infowars.com/media/rightwing-dhs.pdf
Notice that it’s so bad that it’s supposed to be, yes like always, secret.
More attacks upon the 2nd Amendment and those “right-wing, terrorist, gun owners”.
gotta love how the color of a man gets thrown in for good measure. I guess it has nothing to do with UNConstitutional government actions. It has nothing to do with anger towards tyranny. Nope, it’s all about race. Thanks goes to the real human and true protector who leaked this thing.
Link to Pamela Geller to avoid MODERARTION!
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/04/obamas-real-terrorists-targeting-patriots-and-the-right.html
effing moderation xxxzxzzzoooofofooof!!!!
Pleefer
I assume it is the same as this at Roger Hedgecock.
Your link bombed for me.
Good disection here by Pamela Geler.
a sample
(U//FOUO) The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks.
Ah, there it is. take their guns away. Jail’em if they disagree.
— (U//FOUO) Proposed imposition of firearms restrictions and weapons bans likely would attract new members into the ranks of rightwing extremist groups, as well as potentially spur some of them to begin planning and training for violence against the government. The high volume of purchases and stockpiling of weapons and ammunition by rightwing extremists in anticipation of restrictions and bans in some parts of the country continue to be a primary concern to law enforcement. —
Ban? What ban? This is a staging. Fake staging to seize weapons.
This is the link to Hedgecock. Moderation didnt like the 161 character url.
http://tinyurl.com/dzyllf
A government which is large enough to supply everything you need
is large enough to take everything you have.
-Thomas Jefferson
Tax Day Tea Party
City: Wichita
When: April 15, 4:15 pm – 8:00 pm
Where: Wichita Airport Post Office, 7117 W. Harry Street
Other Info: wichitateaparty.com
Doug.. thank you for pointing out that it is god’s (man made god) rules for marriage and not God’s (the one true God of creation). If you want to know how God (Jesus) feels about abusing children, try reading the New Testament for a change.
Matthew 18:6 (Jesus speaking)
“But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.”
Get your Tea Party Shirt and join in:
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Silent Majority NO MORE
For more information on this national event:
http://taxdayteaparty.com/guide/
I did a bit of research on concealed carry yesterday, to find that in some states crime has increased since the law was passed, and the majority of those who obtain permits are over 50. But then what did you expect? In Kansas, some permits were jerked for “stalking.” Again about what you’d expect from gun nuts. In Texas, black people lost their permits at a rate ten times greater than whites. It’s all a big joke. Concealed carry is basically a disease of the aged, like conservatism. If you’re so brave and decent why don’t you “wear your guns outside your pants, for all the honest world to feel.” — Townes Van Zandt.
”The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”
“Thomas Jefferson”
http://wichitateaparty.com/
“wear your guns outside your pants, for all the honest world to feel.”
Wow! No Gun = Honest World
Am I suppose to believe this?
Your post is a stereotype on your part but doesn’t exist in reality.
Our own democrat governor,Kathleen Sebelius, signed the legislation allowing carry and conceal (revised) in Kansas. The drive to approve Carry and Conceal was led by some prominent democrats in the legislation (among them Candy Ruff (D) Leavenworth).
This holds true on a national level.
My goodness, Heckie,
Your paranoia is showing this morning. It is not a very pretty sight, in case you didn’t know that.
Just as tip, though, you and yours should be very, very afraid.
beeb says-”If you’re so brave and decent why don’t you “wear your guns outside your pants, for all the honest world to feel.” — Townes Van Zandt.”
Cause old women and liberals freak out and call the cops to come and harrass you.
And it’s illegal in a lot of places.
Oregon Democrats support privacy rights of gun owners
by Mike Phoenix
Oregon Democrats support privacy rights of gun owners Fri Mar 13, 2009
This evening the central committee of Multnomah Democratic Party voted overwhelmingly to support Hose Bill 2727. This bill keeps private personal information of Oregon citizens who apply for a concealed weapons permit from a county sheriff’s office. More information on this bipartisan legislation can be found here.
Update: It should be noted that Multnomah County is the largest and most Democratic county in the state. Barack won here by almost 4:1 over McSame. It contains the great City of Portland.
During the Clinton adminstration a study was done on defensive uses of firearms which found at the most conservative point 1.5 million defensive uses of handguns annually. Other studies have put the total as high as 6 million. Even on an average of these studies that is 3 million defensive uses of firearms per year in the United States. That is 3 million crimes halted or prevented, 3 million people who are not victims, not murdered, not raped.
Steven says- “Your paranoia is showing this morning.”
What have I said that leads you to say that. I’ve posted links to what others have said. Is that paranoid?
January 18, 2006
Wisconsin Democrats, Guns, and The Governor
Wisconsin Democrats in the State Senate have joined with Republicans to approve ‘conceal and carry’, this time, by a ‘veto proof majority.’
Good morning, beber,
In your desperation to make a point concerning concealed carry you have proved once again that you have nothing.
I didn’t get a permit to carry concealed in order to ‘decrease crime’ in Kansas. I got one to increase my ability to protect me and mine. Advocates of concealed carry never used the argument that it would ‘decrease crime’.
None of the arguments for concealed carry have been proven false. On the other hand, opponents of concealed carry and their irrational arguments have been proven wrong in every case.
Out of over 17,000 CCH permits issued in Kansas only 34 have been revoked. In most of those cases the permits were revoked for reasons having nothing to do with the abuse of the right to carry concealed.
Why carry concealed vs. ‘outside your pants’? The answer is obvious and it has nothing to do with being ‘brave and decent’.
Yeah Heckler, that was/is it.
American Gun Law Expert Urges Support for National Concealed Firearms Carry Bill
Washington, DC January 17 2009
American Gun Law Expert Urges Support for National Concealed Firearms Carry Bill
“It’s been said that a strong offense is the best defense, and now is the time for the 90 million law-abiding gun-owning voters in the United States to implement that strategy,” says gun rights expert John M. Snyder. “Showing strong support for the proposed National Right to Carry Reciprocity Act is an important way to do this.”
“These days,” continues Snyder, “gun grabbers slather at the potential for passing restrictive gun control legislation as a president with an outrageous public record of support for repressive measures in this regard takes office. He’ll have an attorney general of like-minded background and political party majorities in both houses of Congress.
“This slather, however, leaves out of account a number of facts and some significant recent political history.”……….
“One of the most popular legislative initiatives in recent years is the movement allowing qualified law-abiding citizens to carry concealed firearms,” says Snyder, Treasurer of the Second Amendment Foundation. “Studies by scholars such as John R. Lott, Jr., author of More Guns Less Crime, demonstrate that in jurisdictions where such a public policy is implemented, violent crime takes a nosedive. Forty states now have some kind of right to carry policy.
“What has been missing is federal right to carry concealed legislation so that persons permitted to carry in a state may carry in other states, in much the same way as people licensed to drive in a state may drive in other states. Into this breech comes the bipartisan introduction of H.R. 197, the proposed National Right to Carry Concealed Act of 2009, by Rep. Cliff Stearns of Florida, a Republican, and Rick Boucher of Virginia, a Democrat. The proposal would allow persons permitted to carry a concealed firearm in a state to carry in other states.”
Snyder says “there’s a lot of Obama hoop-la right now with inaugural festivities but this will not last long. What will last is the interest in the right of self-defense and the right to carry and use guns for self-defense. Democrats and Republicans in Congress both need to show they have their constituents’ genuine interests at heart. Cosponsoring H.R. 197 is one way they can do this.”
John M. Snyder
Manager
Telum Associates, LLC
Arlington, VA
I’ll be at the tea party.
Best know now, that you’ll be tagged if you go.
Obaaamaites are intersted in civil liberties only if they deal with buggery or abortion.
“Tax Day Tea Party”
Maybe I’ll be there.
I’ll be the guy with the sign:
“If you’re not rich, and you vote Republican?
What are you, stupid?”
SOAK THE RICH!
” Maybe I’ll be there.
I’ll be the guy with the sign:”
I will look for you.
beber Posted April 13, 2009 at 6:57 am | Permalink
“I did a bit of research on concealed carry yesterday…..”
In research sponsored by the U.S. Department of Justice, in which almost 2,000 felons were interviewed, 34% of felons said they had been “scared off, shot at, wounded or captured by an armed victim” and 40% of these criminals admitted that they had been deterred from committing a crime out of fear that the potential victim was armed.
Allowing law-abiding people to arm themselves offers more than piece of mind for those individuals — it pays off for everybody through lower crime rates. Statistics from the FBI’s Uniformed Crime Report of 2007 show that states with right-to-carry laws have a 30% lower homicide rate, 46% lower robbery, and 12% lower aggravated assault rate and a 22% lower overall violent crime rate than do states without such laws. That is why more and more states have passed right-to-carry laws over the past decade.
In 1987, my home state of Florida enacted a “shall issue” law that has become the model for other states. Anti-gun groups, politicians and the news media predicted the new law would lead to vigilante justice and “Wild West” shootouts on every corner.
But since adopting a concealed carry law Florida’s total violent crime rate has dropped 32% and its homicide rate has dropped 58%. Floridians, except for criminals, are safer due to this law. And Florida is not alone. Texas’ violent crime rate has dropped 20% and homicide rate has dropped 31%, since enactment of its 1996 carry law.
Another study makes the moral case for expanding and enhancing right-to-carry laws. A report by John Lott, Jr. and David Mustard of the University of Chicago released in 1996 found “that allowing citizens to carry concealed weapons deters violent crimes and it appears to produce no increase in accidental deaths.” Further, the Lott-Mustard study noted, “If those states which did not have right-to-carry concealed gun provisions had adopted them in 1992, approximately 1,570 murders; 4,177 rapes; and over 60,000 aggravate assaults would have been avoided yearly.”
Think about it. Nearly 8,000 of our fellow citizens have died between 1992 and 1996 because of the irrational fear that law-abiding Americans would abuse their right to self defense. In fact concealed carry permit holders are more law-abiding than the rest of the public. For example, Florida, which has issued more carry permits than any state has issued 1.36 million permits, but revoked only 165 (0.01%) due to gun crimes by permit-holders.”
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=30405
“In fact concealed carry permit holders are more law-abiding than the rest of the public.”
Not by what we read here they aint.
BlueJay sings:
“If you’re not rich, and you vote Republican?
What are you, stupid?”
Clearly the Bluejays of the world close their wings and land in front of working Americans every day – like pigeons, searching for a speck of food, a morsel of left over sandwhich, or bread crumbs to fall to the wayside as the working man progressing forward in life.
They cannot fathom why everyone doesn’t join them on the ground begging for handouts.
Katie Couric to receive Walter Cronkite award for journalism for her interview of Sarah Palin.
Quite right so she should. She helped America see the second most incompetent candidate for high office since george bush.
To be a democrat in 2009 is not an act of compassion and care for your fellow man….
Statistics show that nearly 50% of Americans are on the receiving end of the federal trough.
To be a democrat in 2009, is to want more.
It is an act of greed.
Damn all you can troll up any more is a basket of junk fish.
So beber, why don’t you post for us what your “bit of research” discovered? Hmmmm?
Can I come to your
Mad HattersTea Party and sell John Galt t-shirts?I’ll be the guy with the sign:”
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I’ll be the guy giving you the finger.
I’ve got a book for you Anti.
“What’s the Matter With Kansas” by Thomas Frank.
Read it. Don’t eat it.
The sad thing about these tea prties is that those same folks that will attend will have already sent their tax forms in. So is there really a point to it?
Monkeyhawk you will need a permit to hawk your
T shirts.
http://www.wichita.gov/Business/Licenses/
“John Galt Can Bite Me” “So Say We All”
Britain wants an army of dim-witted, 1984, tattle-tale teens too:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/5143911/Gordon-Browns-plan-for-army-of-teen-volunteers.html
Sorry, not Britain, but it’s version of the Obama/Bush tyrant, Gordan Brown wants one.
The lyrics, copyright Zephyrus Music, are:
Mr President!
Your stimulus is sure to bust
Its just a socialistic scheme
The only thing it will do
Is kill the American Dream
You wanna take from achievers
Somehow you think that’s fair.
And redistribute to those folks
Who won’t get out of their easy chair.
We’re havin’ a tea party across this land
If you love this country
Come on and join our band
We’re standin’ up for freedom and liberty
Cause patriots have shown us freedom ain’t free
So when they call you a racist cause you disagree
It just another of their dirty tricks to silence you and me.
I believe in the Constitution and all it stands for.
Anyone who tramples it should be booted out the door.
We’re havin’ a tea party across this land
If you love this country
Come on and join our band
We’re standin’ up for freedom and liberty
Cause patriots have shown us freedom ain’t free
Now we’re not advocating violence
That’s what the so-called peace crowd do
We’re talkin’ peaceful protest to defend the red, white and blue
We gotta vote out these clowns who don’t love the USA
Who stay up late losing sleep fearing what the French might say
We’re havin’ a tea party across this land
If you love this country
Come on and join our band
We’re standin’ up for freedom and liberty
Cause patriots have shown us freedom ain’t free
We’re havin’ a tea party across this land
If you love this country
Come on and join our band
We’re standin’ up for freedom and liberty
Cause patriots have shown us freedom ain’t free
Freedom ain’t free
(Stand up for America)
Freedom ain’t free
(Gotta take a stand)
Freedom ain’t free
(Mr Obama)
Freedom ain’t free
(we work hard for our money)
Freedom ain’t free
(Don’t give it away)
Freedom ain’t free
(Save the day)
Freedom ain’t free
(Don’t go givin’ it away)
Freedom ain’t free
(It ain’t gonna work)
Freedom ain’t free
(Give back our freedom)
Freedom ain’t free
(Give back our liberty)
Freedom ain’t free
(I love my country)
Looks like you don’t want this ‘deer in the headlights’, going to lose more than your headlights!
“WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Barack Obama gave authority to kill the Somali pirates holding U.S. cargo ship captain Richard Phillips, and a commander acted when he concluded the pirates were about to kill the hostage, a U.S. Navy official said on Sunday.
“They were pointing the AK-47s at the captain,” Vice Adm. William Gortney, head of the U.S. Naval Central Command, said in a Pentagon briefing from Bahrain.
Gortney also said Washington had rejected negotiations with the pirates. “The United States government policy is to not negotiate,” he said.
BeeJay says “I’ve got a book for you Anti.
“What’s the Matter With Kansas” by Thomas Frank.
bj, what folks like you and Thomas Frank can’t understand is that some people don’t sit around and expect government to fix all of their problems, expecially if it involves taking money at the point of a gun and giving it to them.
Self sufficiency.
Try it.
Will ‘The Man’ be furnishing the tea?
“Gortney also said Washington had rejected negotiations with the pirates. “The United States government policy is to not negotiate,” he said.”
From my reading, I thought we WERE actually negotiating. The sticking point was that the pirates would be tried in a court of law – and not let Somolia try them?
“So is there really a point to it?”
Yes. It’s a movement. Not a deadline.
Felt sorry for that poor guy that volunteered, did his duty (and saw his buddies get blown up) and now is getting re-activated for Afghanistan. Obama should stop the back door draft.
Not too favorable terms, to become prisoners and be tried. That’s negotiations with teeth.
Maggot gets it wrong again.
Maggotpunk
Posted April 13, 2009 at 6:02 am | Permalink
Here’s a story that should make the anti-gay marriage folks happy. An 8 year old cannot divorce her 47 year old husband. Using biblical principles of selling your daughter into slavery,
A) This has nothing to do with gay marriage
B) This has nothing to do with the bible
C) This is, at best, a Moslem issue, not biblical nor Christian.
D) This has to do with Saudi law, not God’s rules of marriage.
Why the post office? Don’t you need a body of water to dump the tea into? Why are you protesting the largest tax cut in American history?
I’ve been a memeber of the “truth movement” for over 6 years…hopefully this one will take hold. By the time folks realized that Ron Paul was right, it was too late. People need to ACT, not just fake it.
I’ve spread the message on here for over 3 years and I think it might finally be taking hold on the smarter ones on here. So I’ll keep throwing out real news and information until I don’t care anymore about everyone else and just take care of my own.
member even.
Are the Brits taxing our tea again?
You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away men’s initiative and independence.
You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves.
- Abraham Lincoln
“Why are you protesting the largest tax cut in American history?”
Have some more Kool-Aid.
and open the window.
you said, “the largest tax cut in history”…numbnuts.
See? These are types of idjits America is grasping to. We are in a world of hurt.
Can you tell me which tax cut is larger than the cut passed in February?
Well, what’ll you spend your $12 a week on? save up and by that new 60″ hi-def?
They cut our income tax and raise every other nickel and dime tax that they can think of.
Man, take the blinders off, for your own sake.
Looks like any bottom fishers that bought GM are going to lose their money in a bankruptcy.
“American_Way” brays –
“It’s a movement!”
I had a movement this morning.
Probably smelled the same as yours.
I’m asking a serious question, why won’t anyone answer it?
Obama is and always has been a confidence man, a Judas Goat…and all ya’ll fell for it like buying snake oil.
“American_Way” advises –
“…you will need a permit to hawk your T shirts.”
Damned oppressive socialist government!
Instead of tea, we should build bonfire’s to burn all of our 1040’s and tax forms alike. Now that would be a real protest.
Also, why the sudden concern with deficit spending? Here is a quote from the Vice-President Dick Cheney:
“Reagan proved deficits don’t matter,” Dick Cheney told Paul O’Neill during a Cabinet meeting. “We won the (2002) midterms. This is our due.”
Socialism for the Rich d’ jour–
From Dean Baker’s The Conservative Nanny State
Political debates in the United States are routinely framed as a battle between conservatives who favor market outcomes, whatever they may be, against liberals who prefer government intervention to ensure that families have decent standards-of-living. This description of the two poles is inaccurate; both conservatives and liberals want government intervention. The difference between them is the goal of government intervention, and the fact that conservatives are smart enough to conceal their dependence on the government.
Conservatives want to use the government to distribute income upward to higher paid workers, business owners, and investors. They support the establishment of rules and structures that have this effect. First and foremost, conservatives support nanny state policies that have the effect of increasing the supply of less-skilled workers (thereby lowering their wages), while at the same time restricting the supply of more highly educated professional employees (thereby raising their wages).
This issue is very much at the center of determining who wins and who loses in the modern economy. If government policies ensure that specific types of workers (e.g. doctors, lawyers, economists) are in relatively short supply, then they ensure that these workers will do better than the types of workers who are plentiful. It is also essential to understand that there is direct redistribution involved in this story. If restricting the supply of doctors raises the wages of doctors, then all the non-doctors in the country are worse off, just as if the government taxed all non-doctors in order to pay a tax credit to doctors. Higher wages for doctors mean that everyone in the country will be forced to pay more for health care. As conservatives fully understand when they promote policies that push down wages for large segments of the country’s work force, lower wages for others means higher living standards for those who have their wages or other income protected.
“So the marriage passes Boxlock’s, umm, god’s test for a proper marriage.”—the Maggot
Of course Boxlock has never advocated anything of the sort such as Maggot suggests in his first post of the day.
It is telling though that Maggot is so impotent in this arena that he must lie about those with whom he disagrees.
That’s all he has, lies.
Bushco and Obamaco are one in the same, so any arguments against Cheney mean little to me. I despise Cheney as much as Obama.
“Using biblical principles of selling your daughter into slavery” ?????
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I’d like to see chapter and verse on that one
So, who did you vote for in 2000 and 2004?
“If you’re so brave and decent why don’t you “wear your guns outside your pants, for all the honest world to feel.” — Townes Van Zandt.”—beber
Hey uninformed, because it’s against the law in most places. Also as a courtesy to other people who may not be comfortable with that.
Dumb liberals.
Capn –
When will that apology be coming? Well, either that, or support your slander with specifics . . .
You mean, it won’t? Either one? I’m shocked.
Or not. I didn’t think you’d have the cojones.
Capn
Folks like you and Dean Baker, whoever he is, constantly make the same mistake. You use the Conservative label interchangeably with the Republican label. I suppose the opposite occurs far too often when addressing Liberal/progressives versus Democrats.
Anyway, I’m sure it matters not to you. You seem to immerse yourself in so many twisted stereotypical fantasies that one more makes little difference. Carry on.
“Which tax cut is larger than the cut passed in February?”
Americans can see that the rushed through bill is also the largest spending bill in U.S. history.
Americans can see the train wreck coming.
Or maybe some of them are smart enough to know that there are hidden taxes coming. Some not so hidden.
Like the cigarette tax increase from .39 a pack to $1.01. They know this tax will be paid mostly by the poor.
Perhaps they see the carbon credit tax coming, and are smart enough to know that this tax will be passed on to citizens buying the goods and services.
And a dozen others like it coming. They know they need to take the time to ACT, and not sit quietly by and let the nation be destroyed by the “One”.
OK, Daniel,
What tax cut? How much is it?
It wasn’t a tax cut. It was a political stunt. It is a refund that you’ll get at the end of the year, maybe.
I’ve checked with my accountant. He told me not to count on it.
Only the dumbest among us believe there is a tax cut in our future.
Less than .2 percent, that’s less than .002 for you liberals, of concealed carry license holders in Kansas have had their license revoked, and as was said in the vast majority of those cases the licenses were NOT revoked for reasons related to concealed carry at all.
You 2nd. Amendment haters and haters of America have nothing….again.
Conservatives want to use the government to distribute income upward to higher paid workers, business owners, and investors. They support the establishment of rules and structures that have this effect. First and foremost, conservatives support nanny state policies that have the effect of increasing the supply of less-skilled workers (thereby lowering their wages), while at the same time restricting the supply of more highly educated professional employees (thereby raising their wages).
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Boy, what a pile of manure article that Capn laid at the doorstep this morning. No specifics, just a rambling opinion by someone who agrees with him.
Yeah, sure Capn, anyone could be a Dr. if it weren’t for the dam government have restrictions on who is qualified to practice medicine. We’d have an oversupply and they’d have to work for minimum wage. And do we really need any more lawyers?
Idiocy gives me a headache.
But you know, since you brought it up, why isn’t the left raising hell about the Mexicans flooding into this country if they are concerned about an oversupply of workers driving down labor costs?
“About $282 billion of the bill, or 35%, is dedicated to tax cuts, split roughly evenly between incentives for businesses and individuals.”
From this article:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123436825805373367.html
Sorry, you’ll have to cut and paste.
But you know, since you brought it up, why isn’t the left raising hell about the Mexicans flooding into this country if they are concerned about an oversupply of workers driving down labor costs?
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Oh, that’s right. They vote Democrat.
IT’s ABOUT THE SPENDING . . . .
According to the Tax Foundation, today is Tax Freedom Day: That means Americans have worked about three and a half months of the year, from January 1 to April 13, before they have earned enough money to pay this year’s tax burden at the federal, state and local levels. Thanks in part to both President George Bush’s tax cuts and President Barack Obama’s temporary tax cuts, this year’s April 13 Tax Freedom Day is the earliest it has been since 1967 . . . .
http://blog.heritage.org/
It’s the rich and out-of-power Republicans who are organizing these
Mad HattersTea Parties, and it’s not an accident. They are trying to kick-start a broken conservative movement by making a huge effort to tap into the 25% of people who hate President Obama. Roger Ailes has gone “all in” and is waiting for the river card as he uses Beck, Cavuto and his merry band of disenfranchised conservatives to lead them on their disingenuous mission.Digby explains:
Here’s the thing. The right lost its ability to be spontaneous sometime back when Phyllis Schlafly was pounding the ERA. They require structure and leadership in order to function, which is one reason why their movement and their party are so stuck. (They proudly call themselves dittoheads, after all.)
So, it’s no surprise to learn this:
Despite these attempts to make the “movement” appear organic, the principle organizers of the local events are actually the lobbyist-run think tanks Americans for Prosperity and Freedom Works. The two groups are heavily staffed and well funded, and are providing all the logistical and public relations work necessary for planning coast-to-coast protests:
– Freedom Works staffers coordinate conference calls among protesters, contacting conservative activists to give them “sign ideas, sample press releases, and a map of events around the country.”
– Freedom Works staffers apparently moved to “take over” the planning of local events in Florida.
– Freedom Works provides how-to guides for delivering a “clear message” to the public and media.
– Freedom Works has several domain addresses — some of them made to look like they were set up by amateurs — to promote the protests.
– Americans for Prosperity is writing press releases and planning the events in New Jersey, Arizona, New Hampshire, Missouri, Kansas, and several other states.
This type of corporate ‘astroturfing‘ is nothing new to either organization. While working to promote Social Security privatization, Freedom Works was caught planting one of its operatives as a “single mom” to ask questions to President Bush in a town hall on the subject. Last year, the Wall Street Journal exposed Freedom Works for similarly building “amateur-looking” websites to promote the lobbying interests of Dick Armey, the former Republican Majority Leader who now leads Freedom Works and is a lobbyist for the firm DLA Piper.
Americans for Prosperity is run by Tim Phillips, who was Ralph Reed’s former partner in the lobbying firm Century Strategies. The group is funded by Koch family foundations — a family whose wealth is derived from the oil industry. Indeed Americans for Prosperity has coordinated pro-drilling ‘grassroots‘ events around the country.
outlander–
Thanks for your post that was both bracing ad hominem AND content free.
Some on the left do want to stop the illegal torrent from Mexico and points south. Others fear alienating a large voting bloc of Hispanics.
Interesting that both GMC and Hank Price directly benefit from Nanny State Capitalism: GMC is protected by the bar exam and Hank by some byzantine State licensing that says in effect “even though chiropractic is medical quakery, you must pass these tests to practice it.”
But do not celebrate yet. The Tax Foundation also identifies how long Americans would have to work to payoff each year’s budget deficit. That day does not arrive until May 29 … the latest day ever for the deficit inclusive measure.
. . . . http://blog.heritage.org/
BTW, outlander–
Your angry attacks on a fellow human make the baby Jesus cry . . .
But back to the taxes. The Congressional Budget Office released a study last week that should give pause to anyone who believes the gap between spending and revenues can be closed by taxing the rich alone. In 2006, the latest date data is available, the top 20% of earners paid 69.3% of all federal taxes. Never has the top 20% of earners paid such a high share of federal receipts. Meanwhile, the bottom 90% of households paid only 45%, and the lowest 20% of earners paid only .8% of all federal taxes. Editorializing on the CBO findings the Washington Post warns: “There just isn’t enough revenue to be found above that figure unless we create a system so lopsided that voters would always want more government spending because it would come at such a low price.”
Unfortunately we are already there. Over the past 14 months, Washington has gone on an unprecedented spending binge that has sparked a nationwide protest. This Wednesday, hundreds of thousands of Americans will take part in Tea Party protests in 500 cities and towns across the country. The USA Today reports:
Organizers say they were not pleased by former president George W. Bush’s performance on spending, either, but what moved them from yelling at the TV to rallying in the streets was Obama’s proposed $3.6 trillion budget, a package the Congressional Budget Office says would produce record-breaking deficits of $9.3 trillion over 10 years.
Dad–
I wonder how they figure that.
I thought George Bush gave EVERYBODY a tax cut!
That’s what they kept saying on Fox News over and over.
I wonder which CON source is wrong?
As we’ve detailed before for all the talk of “hope and change” our current president is every bit the borrow and spender that our previous president was … and more:
President Bush expanded the federal budget by a historic $700 billion through 2008. President Obama would add another $1 trillion.
President Bush began a string of expensive financial bailouts. President Obama is accelerating that course.
President Bush created a Medicare drug entitlement that will cost an estimated $800 billion in its first decade. President Obama has proposed a $634 billion down payment on a new government health care fund.
President Bush increased federal education spending 58 percent faster than inflation. President Obama would double it.
President Bush became the first President to spend 3 percent of GDP on federal antipoverty programs. President Obama has already increased this spending by 20 percent.
President Bush presided over a $2.5 trillion increase in the public debt through 2008. Setting aside 2009 (for which Presidents Bush and Obama share responsibility for an additional $2.6 trillion in public debt), President Obama’s budget would add $4.9 trillion in public debt from the beginning of 2010 through 2016.
Capn . . . If you’re going to criticize Bush . . . you;re going to have to criticize Obamah X 10 . . . peace
Dad–
Nevermind, I read your earlier post. Now I see what you were saying.
So . . . we have lower taxes but higher deficits that must be paid off later.
Yeah, the ghost of Reagan lives . . .
Dad–
The idea is to spend out of a serious recession.
FDR did it, and contrary to CON myth, it helped a lot.
Once the economy gets pumped up, we can reduce spending and pay down the debt.
“FDR did it, and contrary to CON myth, it helped a lot” . . . sorry Capn . . . history dictates that it prolonged the depression and were STILL paying for the “new-deal” . . . Obamah X 10
GMC–
I’m sorry.
I’m sorry that you’re not bright enough to see that hamstringing law enforcement means not respecting the rule of law.
I think most people would see it my way too.
Get over it.
And yourself.
Capn = tilt !!
Dad–
CON history says that.
Real history shows that the only time the New Deal faltered was when FDR gave in to deficit hawks and reduced spending.
But facts never have mattered to the theoCONs.
“FDR did it, and contrary to CON myth, it helped a lot.”
What saved FDR’s butt was WWII. His spending programs did not end the depression. Economists say it actually prolonged it.
Proof will be in the puddin Capn . . . I’ll make your words .. you mark mine from 2009 . . . peace
I’ll MARK your words
Less than 2 months into the new administration, immigration policy seems to be getting even worse. After a period of improvement during the last 18 months of Bush, enforcement policies are growing lax again.Congressional leaders and the administration are threatening to pass a gigantic illegal alien amnesty later this year.
Seven and one-half million illegal aliens are currently working in America, while more than 9 million U.S. citizens are actively seeking jobs. And Congress has done nothing to reverse or even slow down this disturbing trend.
I N T E R M I S S I O N ? ? ?
“enforcement policies are growing lax again”
They lack direction. No leadership is pushing them to enforce the existing laws.
Congress is torn between the bleeding hearts like Pelosi who says that illegals are what America is all about, and those who would strictly enforce immigration law and tighten our borders.
We have cities granting immunity to illegals, and a refusal to carry out immigration laws already on the books.
Bush and Congress tried last year to grant citizenship. It took a grassroots effort by Americans from all sides writing, emailing, and calling their congress representatives to kill it.
Wishy-Washy policy results in poor performance by those trying to execute policy.
“We have decided to kill U.S. and French sailors if they happen to be among our future hostages,” said Abdullahi Ahmed, a member of a pirate group based at Harardhere, a coastal town in central Somalia.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/04/13/somalia.pirates.revenge/
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Looks like we’re in it now. The Marines fixed this problem a couple hundred years ago. Looks like it’s time to fix it again.
If I were at the helm…
Put Marines at the ports of call the pirates frequent. Send the destroyer after the pirate “mother ship” and sink that bad boy. Make the cost of doing business for the pirates well out of reach in terms of money, equipment and lives lost.
I am betting we get an apology out of Obama for the pirates that were sniped.
Water dog? Ted Kennedy?
“The Obamas chose a 6-month-old Portuguese water dog named Bo to be the first pet.
The dog was a gift from Sen. Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts who owns several Portuguese water dogs himself.”
AmWay–
And why would WWII help the economy in time of recession?
Gas rationing? Recycling grease and steel?
No . . . it was the massive deficit spending the war incurred.
Duh.
Sol–
Why don’t YOU apologize for doubting that Obama could face down the pirates?
That’d be a good start.
Why don’t YOU apologize for doubting that Obama could face down the pirates?
That’d be a good start.
After all the dumb stuff you’ve posted and been busted for, it is to laugh capn. It is to laugh.
The U.S. military is considering attacks on pirate bases on land and aid for the Somali people to help stem ship hijackings off Africa’s east coast, defense officials said.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=aYhvgOfyTmYA
Now that we’ve got our foot in the door ( Somalia ) .. I’d be a good time to kick it in .. ya know ?? .. stir the dirt a little .. just give democracy a chance . . . peace yall
They need to hit the tribal leaders that are running the operations.
Right on Phantom . . . if for no less reason than they listen to rap-music .. is good enough for me
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CapnAmerica
Posted April 13, 2009 at 10:50 am | Permalink
Sol–
Why don’t YOU apologize for doubting that Obama could face down the pirates?
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hahaha!
O’bama did zip.
It was a Navy Commander who made the decision and three Seal marksmen that did the job.
I’m sorry that you’re not bright enough to see that hamstringing law enforcement means not respecting the rule of law.
Criminee, Capn, are you really that stupid? I suppose so . . . .
“Hamstringing law enforcement” IS in fact the rule of law. It is that pesky Constitution and that annoying 4th, 5th, 6th, and yes sometimes 1st and 2nd amendment which “hamstrings” law enforcement daily. Don’t you think the founders understood that making the gov’t actually follow the law was in fact a “hamstring” on them? I know that as a good “progressive” you don’t actually believe in limited gov’t and all, but that was in fact the point of that pesky constitution. I suppose favoring actually obeying that constitution makes one in favor of “hamstringing” law enforcement. Who knew – the Founders of the Constitution opposed the the rule of law! (at least in Capn’s world)
Yeesh.
However, let’s set that aside for a moment. What is the logical connect between vocal and vigorous opposition to a proposed policy, here registration of firearms, and encouraging any disobediance or opposition to duly constituted authority?
(—crickets—–)
Should I suppose, Capn, that you routinely ignore every law you disagree with? That you will refuse to obey any law you opposed when it was proposed before the legislature? You understand that is what you’re saying, right?
Yup, it’s every bit as ridiculous that way. I won’t insult you by accusing you of same (though you certainly deserve it); pity you cannot reciprocate. That ledge you’ve perched yourself on is getting narrow, huh?
Ready for that apology yet?
“It was a Navy Commander who made the decision and three Seal marksmen that did the job.”
At least give Obama credit for not hindering the operation.
“O’bama did zip.
It was a Navy Commander who made the decision and three Seal marksmen that did the job.”
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It was the president that gave the commander the authority to make that decision.
$hitheel
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Hud
Posted April 13, 2009 at 11:15 am | Permalink
“It was a Navy Commander who made the decision and three Seal marksmen that did the job.”
At least give Obama credit for not hindering the operation.
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Okay, I’ll give O’bama that due.
He didn’t mess up the operation.
An atta boy to O’Bama for not screwing up the Somali hostage/pirate situation.
Just can’t bring themselves to give props to Obama for a job well done. Imagine those pirates surprise after 8 yrs. of free reign. They now think pirating is a legitimate business. One of the somali pirates said a few deaths won’t deter their business.
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XXX
Posted April 13, 2009 at 11:17 am | Permalink
“O’bama did zip.
It was a Navy Commander who made the decision and three Seal marksmen that did the job.”
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It was the president that gave the commander the authority to make that decision.
$hitheel
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Authority is not the same as doing the job.
Officers in the military give enlisted the authority to do their job as well, doesn’t mean they are actually doing the enlisted men’s job.
“O’bama did zip.
It was a Navy Commander who made the decision and three Seal marksmen that did the job.”
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You’re really going to be upset when Obama lands on the Bainbridge wearing a flight suit and unfurls a gigantic MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner.
“An atta boy to O’Bama for not screwing up the Somali hostage/pirate situation.”
That is much better.
BTW, no one has faced down any problem. The pirates are still there and the next person on a hijacked ship with a US Passport is probably dead.
“They need to hit the tribal leaders that are running the operations.”
We could have helped establish a lawful government in Somolia over a decade ago.
Let us remember the infamous Clinton excursion into Somolia during his presidency. His half-a$$ commitment to the deployed troops (withheld heavy weapons/vehicles), which resulted in the deadly Blackhawk Down and shameful withdrawal.
And a blue dress preserved for history in the Smithonian Institute.
Keep up the good work Rush (making the party a laughingstock) gotta love ya.
Also, as I recall, it was ALL Jimmy Carter’s fault when the Iranian hostage rescue mission went awry.
“One of the somali pirates said a few deaths won’t deter their business.” . . .
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For all of you liberal students of political correctness .. please understand that the P’s are to be referred to as: Marine Merchant Organizers
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Daniel
Posted April 13, 2009 at 11:20 am | Permalink
You’re really going to be upset when Obama lands on the Bainbridge wearing a flight suit and unfurls a gigantic MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner.
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O’Bama hasn’t gotten the “Big O” decal placed on the Marine-1 helicopter yet, he can’t land there.
“that Obama could face down the pirates?”
Somehow I think people are seeing Obama as a tough and rought Rambo – as if he actually did more than look into his telepromter and say, “Go”.
Legends are created thus. Mythology.
Multi-nic’d Regular posted April 13, 2009 at 11:20 am
Authority is not the same as doing the job.
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The job isn’t done, if authority is not given.
The Teleprompter did a fine job handling the pirate situation.
^5, Teleprompter!
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Daniel
Posted April 13, 2009 at 11:24 am | Permalink
Also, as I recall, it was ALL Jimmy Carter’s fault when the Iranian hostage rescue mission went awry.
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A lot of things were Jimmy Carter’s fault.
I was in the military during his Presidency.
He cut the military’s budget so low, it got where we had to scavenge active aircraft for spare parts because none could be found in the inventory.
We had 10-20 percent of married enlisted in the lower grades trying to survive on welfare food stamps.
Carter suxed as President.
cosmos_originally
Posted April 13, 2009 at 11:26 am | Permalink
Multi-nic’d Regular posted April 13, 2009 at 11:20 am
Authority is not the same as doing the job.
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The job isn’t done, if authority is not given
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O’Bama was obligated to do so to save a life, it was a no brainer.
Wasn’t any big feat on his part to nod his head.
Guess if the cons will concede Carter’s failed rescue attempt wasn’t attributal to Carter after all, but the military, I’ll concede Obama deserves no credit for the successful mission.
For President Obama, last week’s confrontation with Somali pirates posed similar political risks to a young commander in chief who had yet to prove himself to his generals or his public.
But the result — a dramatic and successful rescue operation by U.S. Special Operations forces — left Obama with an early victory that could help build confidence in his ability to direct military actions abroad.
Throughout the past four days, White House officials played down Obama’s role in the hostage drama. Until yesterday, he made no public statements about the pirates.
In fact, aides said yesterday, Obama had been briefed 17 times since he returned from his trip abroad, including several times from the White House Situation Room. And without giving too many details, senior White House officials made it clear that Obama had provided the authority for the rescue.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/12/AR2009041203002.html?hpid=topnews
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Give Obama the credit he deserves, or don’t. The important thing is, a brave American seaman is now safe.
relative to some early posts today-
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=94803
Homeland Security on guard for ‘right-wing extremists’
Returning U.S. military veterans singled out as particular threats
I am so screwed. I own a gun, a bible, and a copy of the constitution. And my wifes active in the tea party movement.
I guess we better be on the lookout for Homies (homesec) on Wednsday. Bring spare batteries for the camera.
Reminds me of the Clinton/Reno years when the “greatest threat” to the US was considered right wing religious gun owners. Freakie.
For President Obama, last week’s confrontation with Somali pirates posed similar political risks
Oh my! Political risks! Oh noes!
That must be far greater than getting shot in the back of the head with an AK-47!
“Obama deserves no credit for the successful mission.”
You are absolutely correct, except that he stayed out of the way and took the advice of the military who were close to it.
“it was ALL Jimmy Carter’s fault when the Iranian hostage rescue mission went awry.”
Jimmy Carters approval rating was on the way down long before the Iranian hostage rescue attempt.
I was a young Marine deployed off the coast of Somolia/Indian Ocean on I think the USS San Bernadino (LST 1189?). We were part of the 31st MEU ready to roll. (and thank gosh we didn’t).
The military learned a lot from the mistakes of that operation; Joint Operations were not well trained, communications between services/aircraft, aircraft required for desert operations, and the list goes on. Some of the lessons learned resulted in the successful joint services Panama, Grenada, and even the Persian Gulf War.
Thank God for the SINCGAR right?
http://www.uni-koeln.de/math-nat-fak/geomet/meteo/winfos/synNNWWarctis.gif
With the exception of the outer edge of the Arctic Circle near Norway, the entire area is well under 0 degrees C and as low as -37 C in Greenland.
It’s been a week now since CosMo posted in typical Alarmist fashion the start of the Arctic Ice melt.
The job cannot be done, if authority is not given
April 6, 2009
‘Arctic sea ice younger, thinner as melt season begins‘
http://www.nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
“Arctic sea ice extent has begun its seasonal decline towards the September minimum. Ice extent through the winter was similar to that of recent years, but lower than the 1979 to 2000 average. More importantly, the melt season has begun with a substantial amount of thin first-year ice, which is vulnerable to summer melt.”
“The job cannot be done, if authority is not given”
Oh good grief Cosmos, hurry up and put Obama’s bust on Mount Rushmore, wouldja?
Sol, this lowly Lance Corporal me didn’t get to play with anything I might break – unless it was something meant to be broken.
Non-comms under Nixon qualified for food stamps, as do most enlisted men’s families today, what’s your point?
Good graphs of the situation.
‘NASA images show thinning Arctic sea ice‘
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-10213891-54.html
Boxlock20
Posted April 13, 2009 at 11:38 am | Permalink
“Obama deserves no credit for the successful mission.”
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You guys are just incredible. No wonder your party got tossed out.
I like watching the OBD crowd twist ant turn in the wind like last weeks laundry.
12 parts per 1,000,000 are melting the ice. Riiiiiiight.
This is for you folks who question whether a power like the United states of America can rightfully keep other sovereign countries (like Iran)from obtaining nuclear weapons. The answer to that is, who cares whether we can rightfully do it? We cannot allow unstable countries to get them.
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Warning that Pakistan is in danger of collapse within months
* Paul McGeough
* April 13, 2009
* Page 1 of 3 | Single Page View
David Kilcullen… Pakistan keeps him awake at night.
PAKISTAN could collapse within months, one of the more influential counter-insurgency voices in Washington says.
The warning comes as the US scrambles to redeploy its military forces and diplomats in an attempt to stem rising violence and anarchy in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
“We have to face the fact that if Pakistan collapses it will dwarf anything we have seen so far in whatever we’re calling the war on terror now,” said David Kilcullen, a former Australian Army officer who was a specialist adviser for the Bush administration and is now a consultant to the Obama White House.
“You just can’t say that you’re not going to worry about al-Qaeda taking control of Pakistan and its nukes,” he said
http://www.smh.com.au/world/warning-that-pakistan-is-in-danger-of-collapse-within-months-20090412-a40u.html
“Non-comms under Nixon qualified for food stamps”
As a Marine SSgt (E6) with a wife and at the time two children stationed in WASHDC, we qualified.
This was over twenty years ago. (Didn’t take them)
American_Way
Posted April 13, 2009 at 11:49 am | Permalink
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Sol, this lowly Lance Corporal me didn’t get to play with anything I might break – unless it was something meant to be broken.
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You only made Lcpl? How long were you in?
I mean ODS crowd.
“As a Marine SSgt (E6)”
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Never mind…
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XXX
Posted April 13, 2009 at 11:52 am | Permalink
Boxlock20
Posted April 13, 2009 at 11:38 am | Permalink
“Obama deserves no credit for the successful mission.”
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You guys are just incredible. No wonder your party got tossed out.
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Stop your whining. You bashed Bush as hard as anyone on this blog even when he did good.
O’Bama is a failed Presidency, the country is going deeper in debt, he caused the deaths of military in Iraq from bombers because he painted a big fat target on their backs with a publicized withdrawal date.
O’Bama
Worst.President.Ever.
““You just can’t say that you’re not going to worry about al-Qaeda taking control of Pakistan and its nukes,” he said”
If Pakistan falls to Al Qaeda or it’s supporting Taliban, I hope we take the nukes out.
soldevvb posted April 13, 2009 at 11:53 am
12 parts per 1,000,000 are melting the ice.
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CO2 is 30% higher than shortly before the IA.
We’ve posted before on this XXX. You are old corps to my twenty years service.
Which means, your memory is faltering slightly faster than my own!! :-(
Obama is having a great first 100 days and the Cons are whining, weaping, and gnashing their teeth just like the Bible prophecied!
The One will come after your guns when its time.
cosMo, Show any empirical evidence that AGW will lead to “catastrophic” climate change that would merit Draconian laws and taxes you support so zealously. Show what the SCIENTIFIC consensus is on CATASTROPHIC climate change.
All you been able to show is a consensus of political bodies, businesses and non scientific opinions with only limited REAL Climate science on the subject of CATATROPHIC FUTURE effects.
Like Algore you claim that those who speak out should be silenced and attacked.
CO2 is 30% higher than shortly before the IA.
And 3.2% is added by humans, mostly from respiration.
satatom
Posted April 13, 2009 at 11:59 am | Permalink
Obama is having a great first 100 days and the Cons are whining,
How many trillions has he spent in 100 days?
Watch out Sol, you’re going to be informed on by the Eco-police sent nasty emails and called all kinds of names you “denier”. One hundred years from now people are going to remember what you thought.
Are you ready for the next “inquisition”?
Are you ready for the next “inquisition”?
Bring it.
Melting ice in sub zero weather. That there is a neat trick.
I’ve seen several posts in this thread calling for the US to attack Somalia. I think that we should leave Somalia just as it is and recognize it for the opportunity it represents.
This country is too far gone down the path of socialism to ever be redeemed. We’ll never see another armed revolution in this country because the leaders of this country are smart enough not to push too far and the vast majority of the populace has grown fat, lazy, and complacent. The system is too entrenched to be changed and, truth be told, the majority of Americans seem to be satisfied with the status quo.
I think that the time has finally come for real Americans…..God-fearing, free-market loving, 2nd Amendment-supporting, self-sufficient, John Galt-like heroes to take a stand and settle a new frontier and leave this country to the socialists and let them rot in the squalor that this country would surely become without the influence and contributions of real Americans.
What does all this have to do with Somalia you ask? Everything. When one takes a closer look at the conditions on the ground in Somalia, one realizes that Somalia is a Republican paradise! A veritable laissez-faire land of milk and honey! The new promised land!
Sure, it’s a diamond in the rough but I’ve never met a real American who was afraid to roll up his or her sleeves up and work hard to achieve a dream.
Consider:
-Low 10% flat tax rate
-No centralized federal government to oppress you
-No cumbersome lib business regulations to stifle your entrepreneurial spirit
-Theocratic state with no pesky wall separating religion and state
-No governmentally financed lib welfare programs that reward the lazy or infirm
-Zero tolerance for homosexual lifestyle
-Zero tolerance for drug use
-No lib restrictions on gun ownership
-Speedy trials and death penalty imposed without years of redundant appeals
-No lib activist judges reinterpreting the law from the bench
-No lib EEOC to force you to associate with or hire women or minorities
C’mon! Who’s in?!? Sound off like you’ve got a pair!
We already have that Daniel, it’s called Kansas. :D
donndublin,
Read the climate science.
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soldevvb,
The CO2 increase since the IA is mostly due to our “mechanized lungs”.
And the CO2 we exhale is carbon neutral.
And the CO2 we exhale is carbon neutral.
And still the majority of the whopping 3.2%. Go figure.
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SolDevVB
Posted April 13, 2009 at 12:14 pm | Permalink
And the CO2 we exhale is carbon neutral.
And still the majority of the whopping 3.2%. Go figure.
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Dude,
Stop exhaling…
You are ruining my carbon credit portfolio.
The Neo-Cons (Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity)are trying to supplant itself within the Patriot Movement. They too, are Judas Goats. Dismantle and impeach Congress first. look through the eyes of a 3rd party candidate. Understand that you’re/we’re all being played.
End The Fed.
End the IRS.
We already have that Daniel, it’s called Kansas. :D
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Actually, you’re not far off. I hadn’t thought of it that way. :)
Obama deserves credit. He would be more deserving of credit had he been a little more assertive.
“So the Defense Department sought Obama’s permission to use force against the pirates, and Obama either declined or failed to respond. When the President finally agreed, it was under the most restrictive conditions possible: force could be used only if the captain’s life was “in imminent danger.”
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/04/023317.php
You are ruining my carbon credit portfolio.
You’re all set. The majority of what we exhale is carbon neutral. Ergo, the majority of the whopping 3.2% we contribute is carbon neutral. It is that dastardly nature contributing 96.8% that you have to look out for ;~>
“O’Bama
Worst.President.Ever.”
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Not even enough mental capacity to be original.
So how many trillions did Obama spend in his first hundred days?
And the transparency? What happened to that?
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XXX
Posted April 13, 2009 at 12:31 pm | Permalink
“O’Bama
Worst.President.Ever.”
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Not even enough mental capacity to be original.
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Eaten any good books lately?
“XXX,” re: “Regular” –
“Not even enough mental capacity to be original.”
Hell. Not even enough mental capacity to be aboriginal.
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Monkeyhawk
Posted April 13, 2009 at 12:49 pm | Permalink
“XXX,” re: “Regular” –
“Not even enough mental capacity to be original.”
Hell. Not even enough mental capacity to be aboriginal.
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racist
‘Chapter 2 Changes in Atmospheric Constituents and in Radiative Forcing‘
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-wg1.htm
cosmos_originally
Posted April 13, 2009 at 12:12 pm | Permalink
donndublin,
Read the climate science.
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The “climate science” only tells us that it is highly PROBABLE based upon the studies that the political community accepts for publication of “climate science”. The so called consensus you claim to have only agrees with AGW theory on limited basis.
When it comes to CATASTROPHIC climate change there is very little consensus and very little empirical scientific evidence to make future predictions.
Politicians had very little interest in climate science until they realized it’s political and economical potential.
Capn?
Ready for that apology yet? Your last pathetic attempt at justification has been sank without so much as a whimper. It was just too easy.
It’s not hard, Capn, for one with honor; it starts with “I was wrong . . . ” and then you proceed accordingly from there.
I’d even bet you’ve been there before.
donndublin,
Earth’s climate is important to all life here.
Read the climate science.
“Empirical research is any research that bases its findings on direct or indirect observation as its test of reality.”- wiki
All you have are the computer models. They can’t observe directly or indirectly findings in the future. They can only predict or at most make an educated guess.
SolDevVB
Posted April 13, 2009 at 12:33 pm | Permalink
So how many trillions did Obama spend in his first hundred days?
And the transparency? What happened to that?
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Obama hasn’t SPENT a trillion $.
There’s a website for every stimulus dollar being spent but you’re too lazy to look…you just want to whine.
donndublin,
You obviously have not read the climate science reports. Climate science has much more than computer models.
And you also do not seem to understand the projections.
Okay, WE Blog CONs –
Which one of you is the guy who starts up about 2:20 into this Glen Beck 9/12 meeting?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwdOwgD5OsY&feature=player_embedded
you just want to whine.
The stimulus, the bailouts, the budget?
You are just too lazy to face the facts.
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cosmos_originally
Posted April 13, 2009 at 1:08 pm | Permalink
donndublin,
Earth’s climate is important to all life here.
Read the climate science.
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No body is saying it’s not….Social engineering and scientific experimentation on the climate could be more apt to destroy than protect life.
“They can only predict or at most make an educated guess.”
You mean like our meteorologists? Heck, they can’t get the weather right for next WEEK. You think people who can forecast next year? LoL!
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cosmos_originally
Posted April 13, 2009 at 1:13 pm | Permalink
donndublin,
You obviously have not read the climate science reports. Climate science has much more than computer models.
And you also do not seem to understand the projections.
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The U.N. uses the IPCC as a political arm on changing countries policies.
I did not vote for the U.N.
I do not pay taxes to the U.N.
I have no obligation to listen to the U.N. under any circumstances.
The U.N. is not mentioned in the U.S. constitution.
Not me Monkeyhawk. I’m trying to keep my face off any video recording and voice off audio. I’ll probably wear a ski mask to the Tax Tea Party.
I have been nominated many times as President of the Ugly Club. I stick out like a sore thumb.
So I don’t want Obama’s stormtroopers coming after me.
“Regular” gives us –
“The U.N. is not mentioned in the U.S. constitution.”
Neither are corporations.
American_Way
Posted April 13, 2009 at 1:21 pm | Permalink
Not me Monkeyhawk. I’m trying to keep my face off any video recording and voice off audio. I’ll probably wear a ski mask to the Tax Tea Party.
I have been nominated many times as President of the Ugly Club. I stick out like a sore thumb.
So I don’t want Obama’s stormtroopers coming after me.
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Too late…thanks to Shrub’s trampling of the Constitution, Obama already has everyone’s WEBlog
information.
He knows who you CONS are and will deal with you in due time.
Monkeyhawk
Posted April 13, 2009 at 1:22 pm | Permalink
“Regular” gives us –
“The U.N. is not mentioned in the U.S. constitution.”
Neither are corporations.
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Neither is Tofu.
He knows who you CONS are and will deal with you in due time.
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Does he want lead poisoning?
Didn’t Bush say the Constitution was just a “GD piece of paper”?
CONS shouldn’t care about a “GD piece of paper”.
“There’s a website for every stimulus dollar being spent but you’re too lazy to look…you just want to whine.”
Is that this web site?
“Q: I heard I’d be able to track recovery funds. Why can’t I do that?
A: You aren’t able to track funds yet because we have not yet started receiving information from Federal agencies on how they are going to allocate the money. It takes a little bit of time for them to make sure your money is going to be spent wisely. Right now, the site features an overview of the law and an explanation of what it is intended to accomplish. You will have access to data as soon as we begin receiving it from agencies.”
ANTI
Posted April 13, 2009 at 1:25 pm | Permalink
He knows who you CONS are and will deal with you in due time.
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Does he want lead poisoning?
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Its against the law to threaten the President of the US.
“American_Way” shares –
“…I’ll probably wear a ski mask to the Tax Tea Party.
“…I don’t want Obama’s stormtroopers coming after me.”
Don’t you want the Kochs to note your efforts on their behalf?
(Just the same, remember to remove your ski mask before you visit the liquor store afterward.)
Its against the law to threaten the President of the US.
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I asked you a question.
“WASHINGTON (CNN) — A plane carrying U.S. Rep. Donald Payne (D-NJ) was fired on Monday as it left the airport in Mogadishu, Somalia.”
Are they sure it was Somalian’s or pirates shooting at him?
donndublin posted April 13, 2009 at 1:14 pm
. . . scientific experimentation on the climate could be more apt to destroy than protect life.
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Definitely!
That’s why we humans need to stop changing the chemistry of Earth’s atmosphere. And also reverse the changes that we’ve already made.
I’ve reported your threat against the President anti.
“And you also do not seem to understand the projections.” – cosMo
I understand “projections”. You don’t understand that the “projections” are just predictions or at best educated guesses.
Government Hydrology engineers make “projections” or predictions about how high the flood waters will crest within a 1% chance but they get it wrong every once in a while. Remember the local October 98 flood? It exceeded the 0.5% predictions in some areas.
The UN’s IPCC does not do climate science research — they compile the previously published science papers into reports.
“He knows who you CONS are and will deal with you in due time.”
Curses, foiled again!
satatom
Posted April 13, 2009 at 1:29 pm | Permalink
I’ve reported your threat against the President anti.
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What threat?
We just don’t understand:
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Perhaps donndublin does not understand
And you also do not seem to understand the projections.
soldevvb does not even understand what the 3.2% number means.
Do you not understand the word “vulnerable”,
And also try to post some proof that you, and the other AGW deniers here, understand scientific methodology.
So you still could not find any proof that you, and the other AGW deniers here, understand scientific methodology?
Poor soldevvb just cannot understand that nature “sinks” the CO2 that it “sources”.
No soldevvb, your ignorance, and inability to learn about Earth’s carbon cycle and basic climate science does not “scare” me
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Yes soldevvb. . . most people do realize how dumb and ignorant you are about climate science.
soldevvb has already proven, multiple times, that he is unable to understand climate science.
Thank you soldevvb, for yet again proving that you are unable to understand scientific methodology.
soldevvb is unable to understand credible science, which is based on scientific methodology.
It’s obvious from soldevvb’s post that he does not understand scientific methodology.
soldevvb is 100% clueless about logic and climate science.
If you can’t understand the obvious problems with our big global “experiment”,
And do you really not understand the obvious, donndublin?
But thank you soldevvb, for proving that you’re so clueless that you don’t even realize that you’re clueless.
You were/are too dumb, and/or too deep in denial, to understand the carbon cycle.
You do understand scientific methodology. . . don’t you?
No bigotbawks, you’re “so disrespectful” to climate science, because you do not understand climate science.
Plus you do not seem to understand the possible dire consequences
okobserver, don’t you even know how to find out if a person has done research that’s been published in a credible scientific journal?
Now please continue proving that you cannot refute the AGW science.
Is Hank unable to understand the difference between journalism and science?
and does not even understand the meaning of the word “can”.
Thank you soldevvb, for again proving that you do not understand climate science.
soldevvb,
Keep attacking me, if you are not smart enough to understand that does not make the draft credible.
bigotbawks is so stupid, he cannot understand that it’s not about the climate models
donndublin,
You do not seem to understand the climate projections.
Timing, ain’t it a b!tch?
satatom posts a nonsense question:
“Didn’t Bush say the Constitution was just a “GD piece of paper”?”
And then from the unanswered goofy question it supplies a conclusion.
“CONS shouldn’t care about a “GD piece of paper”.”
satatom sure has things mixed up.
The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) forecast last month the budget deficit could hit 1.845 trillion dollars for the whole year based on Obama’s 3.5-trillion-dollar budget plan approved by Congress early this month.
The CBO said its budget deficit estimate for fiscal 2009, which ends on September 30, would be four times the 2008 record shortfall and amount to 13.1 percent of the country’s total economic output.
Don’t know why this won’t post. Try #3.
President anti
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I kinda like the sound of that….
(should be ANTI, though)
Timing, ain’t it a b!tch?
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TeeHee
fleettwood,
Thank you for for the excellent copy/pasting (1:34 pm) of comments from my earlier posts.
Now try to find some credible science that proves that my comments were not accurate.
That is just the budget. Wait until you add in TARP II and the “stimulus” package.
google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j0XkcxqZsE-Ymo6glpUs2IMO8ifA
If you are tired and just not going to take it anymore……
Vote for ANTI for president!
satatom,
I reported you to the Talley Band, as an In-fiddle.
cosmos_originally
Posted April 13, 2009 at 1:28 pm | Permalink
“That’s why we humans need to stop changing the chemistry of Earth’s atmosphere. And also reverse the changes that we’ve already made.”
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You can’t prove that we can change it or that any change that’s apparent will make it worse or better. Social engineering won’t change it either.
Vote for ANTI for president, a guy that won’t kiss your a$$.
“That is just the budget. Wait until you add in TARP II and the “stimulus” package.”
Don’t forget that FREE healthcare. CBO did not include that in their projections on already signed legislation (it is a separate report on their website – worth reading. Three scenarios based upon Pelosi inquiry).
ANTI
Posted April 13, 2009 at 1:25 pm | Permalink
He knows who you CONS are and will deal with you in due time.
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Does he want lead poisoning?
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ATTN DEPT OF HOMELAND SECURITY!!!!!
ANTI JUST THREATENED TO SHOOT THE PRESIDENT!!!!!
Now back to your regular programming….
Maybe we are in denial:
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AGW science deniers believe that their opinion is science.
Let’s list Regular’s ignorance and denial of climate science. . .
That basically sums up the AGW deniers arguments.
You were/are too dumb, and/or too deep in denial, to understand the carbon cycle.
So you could not find any proof that you, and the other AGW deniers here, understand scientific methodology?
Now that there is some AGW deniers science fer ya.
Now list Happer’s paper(s) out of those “over 200? that support his AGW science denial.
That’s “true” only for ignorant and/or dumb AGW deniers.
you silly AGW science deniers.
You AGW deniers sure have some “interesting” comments
climate science that supports their AGW denial
AGW deniers Shimkus and Lord Christopher Monckton
soldevvb is a liar. I’ve said that they do not have any credible science to support their AGW science denial.
Ignorance sustains your AGW denial, soldevvb.
Yes soldevvb, David J. Bellamy is a shiny object for you silly AGW science deniers.
AGW science deniers believe that their opinion is science.
Let’s list Regular’s ignorance and denial of climate science. . .
That basically sums up the AGW deniers arguments.
You were/are too dumb, and/or too deep in denial, to understand the carbon cycle.
So you could not find any proof that you, and the other AGW deniers here, understand scientific methodology?
ANTI JUST THREATENED TO SHOOT THE PRESIDENT!!!!!
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I DID NO SUCH THING!!!
(Back to my lovable self)
“Vote for ANTI for president, a guy that won’t kiss your a$$.”
That’s a face. You got your glasses on upside down.
That’s a face. You got your glasses on upside down.
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(flip)
Ah ha!
For the gestapo record: Anti was baited. Anti provided a response based upon the bait saying someone was coming after ANTI.
Every person has the right to self-defense.
If it still looks like a$$, that might be satatom.
cosmos_originally
Posted April 13, 2009 at 1:31 pm | Permalink
The UN’s IPCC does not do climate science research — they compile the previously published science papers into reports(that support the AGW theory).
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All previously published science papers that do not support the AGW theory are censored or buried and not allowed to be funded. The publishers are ridiculed, slandered and called names. In the future anyone who disagrees with AGW will be jailed as political prisoners.
American_Way
Posted April 13, 2009 at 1:49 pm | Permalink
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I’m not very concerned about it.
Ooops,
Gotta go, the boys in black are here….
“In the future anyone who disagrees with AGW will be jailed as political prisoners.”
That’s not what I heard. I heard they will be handed Japanese fans, and forced to cool the air manually 24-7.
How does ice melt in sub zero weather?
“Gotta go, the boys in black are here….”
Watch your back Anti. It may not be boys in black.
Get a fly swatter. Danger may enter your home disguised as a bug.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/11/24/tech/main4630223.shtml
very slowly?
Holy$hit, where’d ANTI go? He was right there a minute ago….
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SolDevVB
Posted April 13, 2009 at 1:56 pm | Permalink
How does ice melt in sub zero weather?
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By the opposite methodology that the driest place in the world (Chilean Desert) used to be the bottom of an ocean.
soldevvb posted April 13, 2009 at 1:56 pm
How does ice melt in sub zero weather?
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Is the Arctic region always “sub zero” in June, July, August, September, and October?
http://nsidc.org/news/images/20081002_Figure2.png
Is the Arctic region always “sub zero”
Is it sub zero now? You are the one flailing your arms about the ice melting.
soldevvb posted April 13, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Is the Arctic region always “sub zero”
Is it sub zero now? You are the one flailing your arms about the ice melting.
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Why does soldevvb believe that “vulnerable” means that the ice should be melting now?
Does soldevvb not understand what “vulnerable” means?
fleettwood
Posted April 13, 2009 at 1:34 pm | Permalink
We just don’t understand:
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Do you not understand the word “vulnerable”,
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H/T to fleettwood ;-)
I got a problem that Carter who took office in Jan.77 was entirely responsible for the state of the US Armed Forces in Nov./79. He inherited a very exhausted and demoralized military (’Nam)and the matter of aircraft malfunction over the desert thus aborting the mission, had little to do with the pay scales. As I recall the Iranians let the women, sick and minorities go while Canadians gave refuge to some staffers as the tragedy unfolded, rotating them “home” to Ottawa by passing them off as Canadians. Was there not contact between the Reagan Campaign committee and the Iranians to hold the hostages just long enough to get him elected? I do not think Carter was great president, but a humanitarian and that’s what started the crisis. Acting on advice from Kissinger and Rockefeller, Carter premitted the Shah to seek cancer treatment at the Mayo Clinic which the Irianians saw as a Yankee Imperialist Plot to somehow restore the Shah to the throne which we did once before in the face of free elections.
B-b-b-but global warming can’t be true because it snowed Friday night and it’s April!!!1!!!1
I see Capn’s back, at least on another thread. See the 11:14 poast for a dismantling of your latest lame excuse for logic, Capn.
Written that apology yet?
Yes, I’m probably making this a bigger thing than it ought to be, all things considered. But given what I do (widely known here), the significant nature of the charge give that, and the absolutely baseless nature of same, well, it is what it is.
And Capn can end it. Quickly. Immediately. With no hard feelings (or at least no more references to the matter). The balls in his court; he committed the slander.
I’m waiting.
Sursum asks, “Was there not contact between the Reagan Campaign committee and the Iranians to hold the hostages just long enough to get him elected?”
Yes, this was pay-back by the Ayatollah for Carter’s helping the Shah get medical care for his heart condition.
The fact that Reagan would keep hostages imprisoned so he could win an election tells one all he needs to know about the CON determination to win.
Cal Thomas quote on Fox prior to today’s rescue:
“The world’s tyrants are watching to see how President Obama reacts. The message they get will determine how they respond to America and whether we will be in greater peril.”
Comment at this Fox site:
Cliff Darnell says:
Since Mr. Obama cannot be bothered with concern over Mr. Phillips life at the moment and has shown not one bit of concern or regard to the situation, he should be held alone and entirely responsible for the brave Captain’s life. If this goes bad, he should be held liable.
Rush: Obama Votes ‘Present’ on Pirate Crisis | The FOX Nation
Cave News: Team Obama unsure how to handle pirate crisis
While the world is watching Mr. Obama is silent. Hillary, on the other hand, is making light of the crisis as shown in the short video posted here. In the second half of the video Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has a good laugh about the piracy crisis.
When will Obama speak out and at least acknowledge the crisis and ask for prayers for the Captain rather than remain silent appearing to the world to be a weak appeaser.
We have a president with a great speaking voice who can read his teleprompter pronouncements flawlessly. Now, however, he is silently finishing his pizza while the entire world watches.
GMC–
What costs should corporations pay for the gov’t giving them limited liability?
According to you, they should pay nothing for that huge gov’t-provided benefit. I believe they should pay taxes for it.
And last time I checked, it was the law.
Granted, saying that you disagree with A law is not the same as saying that you disagree with THE law, but still one doesn’t disregard laws that one agrees with, does one?
GMC writes, It’s not hard, Capn, for one with honor; it starts with “I was wrong . . . ” and then you proceed accordingly from there.
I’d even bet you’ve been there before.
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Have you ever been there before, GMC?
Do you not understand the word “vulnerable”,
Sure I do. It describes your faith to a T.
I was wrong once…I believe it was on a Tuesday.
satatom,
O’Bama and I went out for a pint.
He said he was cool with my question that you took as a threat.
Let’s stick to the point, Capn.
Granted, saying that you disagree with A law is not the same as saying that you disagree with THE law, but still one doesn’t disregard laws that one agrees with, does one?
It’s not whether one disagrees with it or not, or whether it’s “A” law vs. “THE” law (a meaningless distinction if there ever was one). However, you’re still stuck in idiocy with that last phrase. “. . . but still one doesn’t disregard laws that one agrees with, does one?”
Last I checked, one’s obligation to obey the law does not turn on whether one agrees with it. That may hold sway in your world, Capn; it does not in mine. It appears that once again liberals are projecting their lack of self-control onto others.
Indeed, the basis of rule of law is that we are all bound by law, even if we disagree with it, until we can change it by legal means. The corollary thus is also true; one is not required to agree with a law, and indeed need not (otherwise there’d be no need for that pesky 1st amendment, huh?) and may work to oppose laws he/she disagrees with.
That distinction’s huge; it’s what separates this society from so many others. Your baseless accusation was that I would routinely flout law I disagreed with, and countenenced others to do so. There was no basis for such a statement, then or now.
You’re 0 for – what is it – 5? 6?
It’s a simple thing, Capn. One a person with honor can do; it separates men from those without honor. Ready to step up to the plate yet?
GMC, the second amendment says that the people’s right to bear arms shall not be “infringed.”
Registration is not infringement, any more than registering a car is infringement of owning a car.
But I must admit that characterizing your position as a continual disregard of the rule of law was an unfortunate exaggeration.
So, for that I am sorry.
You only hold positions that make the rule of law less effectively enforced in some specific cases. The CON shibboleth that “gov’t is always the problem, not a problem solver” is in itself a kind of anti-law position, since gov’t makes and enforces the laws.
“Once again liberals are projecting their lack of self-control . . . ”
Not being a thin-skinned CON, I won’t harass GMC for an apology for that blatant libel.
“sursum” –
And what revisionist CONs don’t choose to recognize is how the assault on the American embassy in Tehran broke all diplomatic precedent. Really changed the rules of the game.
CONs don’t tend to care with details that matter and don’t understand the deep ramifications of recognizing a foreign state and hosting an embassy.
The embassy of the Soviet Union in Washington, D.C., was during all of the Cold War recognized as sovereign Soviet property. Every embassy for every nation is supposed to be considered sovereign property of that nation.
There are books written about how the Iranian Revolution rewrote the rules and how Operation Eagle Claw was managed and mismanaged, and on the pure measure of presidential courage, President Carter comes out looking pretty good, but unlucky.
I’m fully willing to accept luck was on President Obama’s side in the rescue of Richard Phillips. That was some marksmanship.
The snipers parachuted! onto the deck of the U.S.S. Bainbridge (which isn’t all that big a boat). That was Saturday night. Who knows where those guys might have been on Wednesday afternoon when the hijacking began?
So Thursday, Captain Phillips negotiated with the hijackers to let his crew and his ship full of relief efforts for starving people continue its mission.
Friday comes along. Glen Beck gripes that the Navy has asked for FBI negotiators to assist them. “FBI negotiators!” People trained and experienced in dealing with the mindset of hostage-takers.
Sure, an F-23 could’ve fired an air-to-surface missile at the lifeboat and ended the whole thing. And we’d place a couple of years of “Richard Phillips Memorial Middle School” re-namings because “he was a martyr!”
No. It’s not time for martyrs yet.
Get the best three marksmen on the planet on a boat near the pirates and give ‘em the opportunity to do what they do. (Oh, and by the way, can they parachute onto the deck of a smallish warship?)
I dunno the logistics of getting the three best marksmen on the planet from whatever it was they were planning on doing over Easter Weekend, but I bet it might have filled up my particular pre-holiday Friday afternoon.
And what happened?
In the gloamin’ of the evenin’ on a Saturday in the Indian Ocean three hostage-taking pirates died of simultaneous head-shots.
Now THAT’S a pretty good display of America’s strength.
GMC writes, Your baseless accusation was that I would routinely flout law I disagreed with, and countenenced others to do so.
I never wrote that, nor would I, since I don’t believe it.
Oh, geez –
The CONs are ranting about ice melting in “sub 0-degree” water.
Have these people made ice cream?
You put salt on the ice so it can sustain ice below 32-degrees Fahrenheit and that’s less than 0-degrees Celsius.
One-degree Celsius is something like 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit, kids.
When most international papers address specific temperatures they use the worldwide scale rather than the quaint Fahrenheit model.
Now, I realize, doubling the numbers of climate change observations and predictions won’t make much difference to you CONs because this is nothing more than a political issue for you… but please, sometime, when you’re having a boring day and have nothing better to do… get in touch with reality.
But I must admit that characterizing your position as a continual disregard of the rule of law was an unfortunate exaggeration.
So, for that I am sorry.
You’re getting there, Capn. It may be as close as you can get to an actual apology. However, not only was there not a “continual” disregard for the rule of law, there was not even an occasional one.
GMC writes, Your baseless accusation was that I would routinely flout law I disagreed with, and countenenced others to do so.
I never wrote that, nor would I, since I don’t believe it.
Actually, I think you did. Your exact words were “you’re [sic] disregard for the rule of law as expressed continually on the WEBlog would be your opponent’s best friend . . .
I think what I wrote is an entirely fair characterization of your statement. However, your statement that you do not believe same is appreciated. I think you for that.
There is progress. Baby steps, as they say.
“Once again liberals are projecting their lack of self-control . . . ”
Not being a thin-skinned CON, I won’t harass GMC for an apology for that blatant libel.
Thin-skinned? Perhaps, a bit. One can only take so much. And please don’t tell me the left doesn’t hold a grudge. . . As to the projecting part, I think that’s entirely fair. The left’s position on that thread, that “cons” are just waiting for a chance to shoot ‘em up, is one without any basis in experience. I must conclude that it is in fact what those who oppose CC fear they would do given the circumstances. Similarly, in order to accuse me of what you did, a “disregard for the rule of law,” given the lack of asything which would support such a statement, I must assume that you are assuming others are like you. If that assumption is incorrect, I will apologize.
As should you.
Sol whines,
“A) This has nothing to do with gay marriage
B) This has nothing to do with the bible
C) This is, at best, a Moslem issue, not biblical nor Christian.
D) This has to do with Saudi law, not God’s rules of marriage.”
No, it’s not about gay marriage, it’s about heterosexuals getting married. Marrying an 8 year old is much better than two consenting gay adults getting married isn’t it?
It’s about the bible because it condones these sorts of arrangements. I’m supposing you don’t read your bible because of all, as you call it, anti-Semitic passages in it.
You fail to recognize the fact that the Muslims have the OT as part of their scripture, just like the Christians do.
Saudi Arabia is a theocracy and they base their laws upon Boxlock’s, um god’s laws. That’s just like what the theocrats in America want. Or are you now claiming your god disapproves of a male and female getting married?
I don’t know why you criticize something about being unbiblical when you haven’t even read the bible.
“7 “If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as menservants do. 8 If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, [a] he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. 9 If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. 10 If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. 11 If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.” Exodus 21:7-11
You see, it’s perfectly with god’s will that daughters can be sold off to sexual slavery and the slave owner may marry her. Or maybe you think all Jews are Muslims now. I don’t know, you ought to learn more about your religion.
soldevvb posted April 13, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Do you not understand the word “vulnerable”,
Sure I do. It describes your faith to a T.
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I’ve got climate science.
You, soldevvb, have faith that’s based on the factors of ignorance, ideology, and denial. No matter how much you increase the strength of those factors, AGW will continue warming Earth. . . and carbon and other policies will be enacted to reduce the amount of future warming.
samkan whines,
“Doug.. thank you for pointing out that it is god’s (man made god) rules for marriage and not God’s (the one true God of creation). If you want to know how God (Jesus) feels about abusing children, try reading the New Testament for a change.
Matthew 18:6 (Jesus speaking)…”
So getting married is a sin, or is getting married man’s law? I would agree, marriage is an institution created by people, therefore fundies have no religious claim to interfering with gays getting married.
Monkeyhawk
Posted April 13, 2009 at 4:00 pm | Permalink
Oh, geez –
The CONs are ranting about ice melting in “sub 0-degree” water.
Have these people made ice cream?
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Once again the snake oil salesman tries to impress us with his mundane knowledge of science.
I bet when monkey was a kid he stick his tongue to a frozen metal pole to get attention.
“It may be as close as you can get to an actual apology. ”
Don’t be looking for one from me.
You said what you said, then tried to unsay it.
I’ll take you at your original statement.
I bet when monkey was a kid he would stick his tongue to a frozen metal pole to get attention.
Yeah, Jay.
What thread was that dust-up on anyway?
I thought it was the Rampage Killers are Licensed but not finding much there . . .
Upset that the Orange County, CA Board of Supervisors denied it a grant worth nearly $300,000, Planned Parenthood supporters this past week lobbied the members to restore the grant, calling their actions “unconstitutional,” “irresponsible” and “the equivalent of modern book burning.”
Whaaaa! Whaaaa! Whaaaa!
Cutting taxpayer funding to abortion mills like Planned Parenthood is a proven method of reducing the number of abortions, which even pro-abortion Democrats claim they endorse.
. . .
The Planned Parenthood Federation of American released its annual report for 2007-2008 last week, revealing record net assets of $1.014 billion and an increase of 15,560 more abortions in 2007 than the previous year. The American taxpayer also contributed more than ever before, with $349.6 million of Planned Parenthoods funding coming from government grants and contracts.
In 2006 Planned Parenthood abortion mills committed 289,750 profitable contract killings and in 2007 the number was 305,310.
Planned Parenthood now refers to their mangling, dismembering, poisoning, and beheading of babies as “reproductive health care.”
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Bilious Sebelius lied in her written responses to the Senate Finance Committee regarding her relationship with criminal abortionist quack Tiller, his campaign “contributions” to her, and the taxpayer-funded steak and lobster soiree at Cedar Crest for Tiller and all his hired killing staff.
Wouldn’t submitting written lies to a Senate committee be a federal crime? Maybe Bilious Sebelius could just get off with a resolution citing her for contempt of Congress – and no nomination approval.
Here’s your one chance to redeem yourselves, Brownback and Roberts. Got any spine left for calling down this pro-abortion extremist liar?
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Federal Way, WA police say a 14-year-old girl who gave live birth to a baby in her bedroom on Thursday intentionally killed the newborn girl. Police on Friday arrested the teenager and planned to book her into the King County Juvenile Detention Center on investigation of second-degree murder. The baby’s father, Leonel Guzman-Jacobo, 20, was booked into King County Jail on investigation of statutory, or second-degree, rape, because the adult man impregnated the girl when she was 13.
The girl had concealed her pregnancy from her family and from the students at her local middle school, so her family members were shocked to find the murdered infant in her bed.
JR, you’re a** was handed to you previously; you and your little lapdog Chad. Best just slink back from whence you came.
Capn – I guess a partial apology is better than none at all. I’ll let it go.
BTW – did you note on the Capitalism thread the response to your assertion re: the bar exam? and let’s take that up, if at all, over there. Thanks.
And I’m in trial the next couple of days; enjoy life without me. I know that’s hard, but . . .
;-)
A Saudi judge has refused for a second time to annul a marriage between an 8-year-old girl and a 47-year-old man.
Meanwhile, pro-pedophilia U.S. Supreme “court” “judge” Ruth Ginsburg, notorious for writing that the age of consent should be lowered to 12, defended using the influence of foreign law in America’s judicial system at a symposium at the Moritz College of Law at Ohio State University.
She also claims that courts must exhibit regard for human dignity, while staunchly promoting legalized sodomy and the mangling, dismembering, poisoning, and beheading of babies in abortion mills around the world.
Capn?
That was the correct thread.
But unless I am missing something?
GMC’s original post stating that he would tolerate no further restrictions on his guns no longer seems to be there!
Geez GMC, what did you do? Get the post pulled and then keep carping about it?
I wonder if his equivocation for his original statement is still there.
BIG thread that one.
Well, the equivocation and GMC repeatedly whining for an apology for being called on his own words is still there.
But the original post seems to be gone.
Not the smartest thing in the world to try and unsay something GMC, and then keep talking about it.
Arctic Scare! AP’s Borenstein out of control (again) – Warns of ‘Tipping Point’ – Quotes James Hansen, Bob Corell & a Greenpeace ’scientist’
Excerpt: More ominous signs Wednesday have scientists saying that a global warming “tipping point” in the Arctic seems to be happening before their eyes: Sea ice in the Arctic Ocean is at its second lowest level in about 30 years. […] Five climate scientists, four of them specialists on the Arctic, told The Associated Press that it is fair to call what is happening in the Arctic a “tipping point.” NASA scientist James Hansen, who sounded the alarm about global warming 20 years ago before Congress, said the sea ice melt “is the best current example” of that. […] On top of that, researchers were investigating “alarming” reports in the last few days of the release of methane from long frozen Arctic waters, possibly from the warming of the sea, said Greenpeace climate scientist Bill Hare, who was attending a climate conference in Ghana.
Rebuttal to AP Reporter Seth Borenstein’s Shoddy and Incomplete Arctic Article – (No surprise, Borenstein has a woeful climate reporting history – see below)
Note: Associated Press reporter Seth Borenstein pulled out all the gadgets for this comical article on Arctic sea ice dropping to ‘record level’. He got to use the phrase “tipping point” , he quoted James Hansen and Greenpeace ‘climate scientist’ Bill Hare (Greenpeace International describes Hare as it’s “Climate Policy Director”) Borenstein’s citation of Bob Corell as a neutral researcher completely ignores the fact that Corell is an environmental activist who works for Teresa Heinz Kerry’s The Heinz Center, (yes the same ones who gave Hansen $250,000 award before Hansen endorsed Teresa Heinz Kerry’s husband John Kerry for prez in 2004) Corell was embarrassed in 2007 by a his unsupportable claims about Greenland. Corell’s assertion in a September 8, 2007 UK Guardian article that earthquakes triggered by melting ice are increasing in Greenland was rebuffed by University of North Carolina’s Jose Rial. Rial is a prominent climatologist/seismologist working on glacial seismic activity in Greenland. Corell’s erroneous claim prompted Rial to take the unusual step of writing a letter to the UK Guardian. “I also know that there is no evidence to suggest that these quakes ‘are happening far faster than ever anticipated’ [as Corell claimed,"] wrote Rial in a September 13 letter. Rial criticized the newspaper for presenting a ‘falling-sky’ alarmist perspective and added that “it will take years of continued surveying to know whether anything here [in Greenland] is ‘accelerating’ towards catastrophe, as the article [featuring Corell] claims.”
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/Scientists_Counter_Latest_Arctic.pdf
I didn’t unsay anything, JR. Your reading insufficiencies are your problem, not mine.
And it’s still there. It’s jusst your reading problem again, that you can’t find it. Given your inablity to understand plain English, I’m not surprised.
Claim: Paper claims Arctic Temps Peak in November – Claims Arctic offers ‘early warning signs’ – McClatchy Newspapers – October 16, 2008
Excerpt: Temperatures in the Arctic last fall hit an all-time high – more than 9 degrees Fahrenheit (5 degrees Centigrade) above normal – and remain almost as high this year, an international team of scientists reported Thursday. “The year 2007 was the warmest year on record in the Arctic,” said Jackie Richter-Menge, a climate expert at the Cold Regions Research and Engineering Laboratory in Hanover, N.H, and editor of the latest annual Arctic Report Card. “These are dynamic and dramatic times in the Arctic,” she said. “The outlook isn’t good.” Arctic temperatures naturally peak in October and November, after sea ice shrinks during the summer. Scientists say these changes in the Arctic are early warning signs of what may be coming for the rest of the world’s climate.
Arctic Reality Check: Why isn’t the cooling Antarctic considered ‘an indicator of what might happen to the rest of the world?’
By Climate Scientist Dr. Ben Herman, past director of the Institute of Atmospheric Physics and former Head of the Department of Atmospheric Sciences at the University of Arizona is a member of both the Institute for the Study of Planet Earth’s Executive Committee and the Committee on Global Change.
Herman Excerpt: First of all, the Arctic sea ice is at its minimum in September, not October or November as the scientists in the McClatchy article states. As Arctic ice experts, they certainly should have known this. Another point is that the Arctic temperatures do not “naturally peak in October or November”. They peak in mid August generally. Also the article states that since the world’s climates are interconnected, what happens in the Arctic may be an indicator of what will happen in the rest of the world. How about what happens in the Antarctic then? Since its ice area has been increasing, is this also an indicator of what might happen in the rest of the world? (See: Vast majority of Antarctica has cooled over the past 50 years and ice coverage has grown to record levels -
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/Scientists_Counter_Latest_Arctic.pdf
GMC70
Posted April 13, 2009 at 4:54 pm | Permalink
JR, you’re a** was handed to you previously; you and your little lapdog Chad. Best just slink back from whence you came.
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Doesn’t matter. JR has nothing else to do, so he continues his endless ranting.
Did I count correctly?
Just 9 Cosmos Global Warming Posts today? (so far)
“donndublin” posted this twice –
“I bet when monkey was a kid he would stick his tongue to a frozen metal pole to get attention.”
It wasn’t relevant, or responsive, or funny the first time.
But he had to post it twice, in two separate permutations? Why?
Because he thought it was so damned clever?
Or maybe “donndublin” just gets excited over the thought of a “…a kid [who] would stick his tongue to a…pole….”
Like the punchline to that old joke, “donndublin” –
“Twenty bucks. Same as in town.”
Down “jim”.
Roll over. Play dead.
“No more. We have, and have long gone past “reasonable” gun regulation. Many gun owners, this one included, will not compromise any more. one more little bit.”
You’re right. It is still there.
I just had to look for the longer, more….animated screeds.
GMC
GrassEater seems to have a problem with something you said? I personally have always found your comments to be quite clear and concise. What’s his problem?
AH HA!
Thanks, BlueJay . . . I knew there was something that prompted my questioning of GMC’s devotion to the rule of law.
And there it is: “Many gun owners, this one included, will not compromise any more. one more little bit.”
So . . . all that was bullsiht upthread about “one’s obligation to obey the law does not turn on whether one agrees with it . . . the basis of rule of law is that we are all bound by law, even if we disagree with it, until we can change it by legal means.”
How does one NOT COMPROMISE with new gun laws on the one hand and yet “we are all bound by law, even if we disagree with it.”
It seems like a contradiction, which prompted my observation.
After all the huffing and puffing about an apology, dammit!, GMC’s contradiction is still there.
Heckler takes a break from chasing his horses to post . . .
“Mongo like candy!”
Capn
You are almost as obtuse as GrassEater. I’d be embarrassed if I were you.
Capn says-”How does one NOT COMPROMISE with new gun laws on the one hand and yet “we are all bound by law, even if we disagree with it.”
Your soooo close. You just can’t see it can you?
How ’bout you Heckler?
Or did GMC already teach you not to make the mistake?
Are YOU going to proclaim, for all to see, that you will NOT be infringed on further by bothersome laws that you object to?
Or will you just break the law and not tell us?
GrassEater says- “Are YOU going to proclaim, for all to see, that you will NOT be infringed on further by bothersome laws that you object to?
Or will you just break the law and not tell us?”
Study that statement for a minute JR. Seriously.
Now study this statement carefully. There is a distinct difference.
“No more. We have, and have long gone past “reasonable” gun regulation. Many gun owners, this one included, will not compromise any more. one more little bit.”
Can you tell me what it is?
What it is is the well known temper of GMC getting the better of him and causing him to lose not only his cool but his syntax as well.
He did it a lot on that thread.
He also felt the need to do an awful lot of qualifying and equivocating later. I’ll take him before second thought.
Hannity and Glenn Beck saying they looked forward to teabagging themselves is just too funny. I wonder if that is even possible
Hehehe, GMC almost had me believing that there was no basis for what I had said.
I should have known that something provoked me into the accusation that I made.
CapnIdiot spend the entire day trying to put down GMC and now feels vindicated in his snarkiness.
Too bad GMC beat him on every score.
GMC 6 Capn 0
JimJohnson posted April 13, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Just 9 Cosmos Global Warming Posts today? (so far)
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It isn’t worth explaining things over and over again to people who cannot think and/or remember.
For example, donndublin cannot understand the differences between the Arctic and Antarctic regions.
Oh, lookie–
The recent heavy rains have flushed blogmonitor out from under his rock.
Too bad.
That your take “blogmonitor”?
Mine’s a little different.
GMC was positively volcanic in earlier days here.
But he HAD come to be one of the few voices of reason among the cons. But that’s all gone now.
And he did it to himself. Now? He’s not much more than you.
Capn –
Just when you were about to become a decent human being, there you go again.
I know that intellectual honesty’s not the left’s strong suit. Nor JR’s in particular. Nor Capn’s. But at some point you have have to actually put up or shut up.
Read the entire thread. Go ahead, read it all. Then tell me that the carefully snipped line is characterized fairly by Capn-Lying-Out-His-A** and his little dog JR.
You can’t. You won’t.
Just upthread here, Capn, you wrote “I must admit that characterizing your position as a continual disregard of the rule of law was an unfortunate exaggeration.”
Were you lying then, or lying now?
Want to show me, specifically, where I have EVER, on this blog, on ANY subject, wrote that I would disregard any law? You won’t find it. You didn’t find it here. I know it, you know it, JR knows it. You just don’t have the balls to admit it.
Come on. Show it to us. You say you “got me;” let’s see it. Be specific.
No?
Over the last several days, you couldn’t come up with it. Your lame excuses have been systematically chewed up and spit out. You even admitted as much, grudgingly. But because your little dog reared up his empty head, you feel obliged to dive into the cesspool once again.
I’m done playing your little game, Capn, I’ve got work to do. But you are exposed for the lying piece of sh** you are. You wanna complain about the “ad hominims;” be my guest. You’ve earned every single one.