So they said

grangejohn“We just decided it was time to quit dodging.” — Rep. John Grange (in photo), R-El Dorado, on why both legislative chambers finally voted to raise the state’s lowest-in-the-land $2.65-an-hour minimum wage

“This is crazy and it’s mean.” — Rep. Marti Crow, D-Leavenworth, arguing against a House-passed bill to require welfare recipients to be subject to random drug tests

“You want Grandma and Grandpa to come down to a state office building and pee in a cup so that they can take care of their grandchildren?” — House Minority Leader Paul Davis, D-Lawrence, arguing against requiring random drug tests for participants in the grandparents-as-caregivers program

16 Comments

  1. Maggotpunk
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 6:05 am | Permalink

    Naturally the Republican politicians are in favor of drug testing. It will increase the size of government, make government more intrusive and best of all, they’ll exempt themselves from the drug testing.

  2. Monkeyhawk
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 6:49 am | Permalink

    One of the most memorable moments from Michael Moore’s “Sicko” was when the expatriates in France said, “In France, the government fears the people. In the States, Americans fear the government.”

    Part of the CONspiracy is to gain governmental power and abuse that power. Quaking CONs huddle in the corner with their carbines pointed to the porch to protect themselves from terrorist attacks. “Be afraid of brown people!” They wanna shoot your dog!

    Degrading Gramma’s dignity by making her go down to the SRS and pee in a cup so she can feed her grandbabies is simply a sadistic tactic to engender hate and fear for the government.

    I’m still in favor of government of, by, and for the people.

  3. beber
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 7:56 am | Permalink

    “Part of the CONspiracy is to gain governmental power and abuse that power”

    Way to go Monkeyhawk.

    Convolution: a monkeyhawk?

  4. beber
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 7:57 am | Permalink

    Conspire: The tower on a Southern Baptist church?

  5. Boxlock20
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:03 am | Permalink

    And using debit cards instead of food stamps, (reducing the public stigma) and giving them to those abusing the system simply enables more and more to do so.
    And there are many many people that are perfectly happy to simply live on the government dole, that is the honest taxpayer.
    I once stood in line at the check out of a grocery store and watched a group of young adults buy junk food with food stamps, a very small amount, and hand the change back to others who bought beer and cigarettes. Great use of tax dollars.

  6. BlueJay
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:12 am | Permalink

    ““We just decided it was time to quit dodging.” — Rep. John Grange (in photo), R-El Dorado, on why both legislative chambers finally voted to raise the state’s lowest-in-the-land $2.65-an-hour minimum wage”

    Someone showed us a calendar. 2009?! We had no idea!

  7. Regular
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:49 am | Permalink

    “You want Grandma and Grandpa to come down to a state office building and pee in a cup so that they can take care of their grandchildren?”

    You betcha!

    Especially if Grandma and Grandpa are snorting blow and sticking needles in their veins taking illegal drugs.

  8. outlander
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:20 am | Permalink

    True Regular. With the boomer generation came flower children who never grew up. Some prime examples post here.

    Hey honey, how about another of those marijuana and metamucil brownies?

  9. ghotiphaze
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:22 am | Permalink

    “Especially if Grandma and Grandpa are snorting blow and sticking needles in their veins taking illegal drugs.”

    Gotta do somehting with all that disposable income from eating cat chow.

  10. ghotiphaze
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    “True Regular. With the boomer generation came flower children who never grew up. Some prime examples post here. ”

    i remember being invited onto a fishing boat in the mid 70s. The owners were ‘really old’ (though from my present perspective, probably not that old lol), and they had some of the best pot I’d smoken up to that time. I mentioned how I couldn’t believe how upstanding, well-to-do, influential old people smoked pot. then they explained they’d started while it was still legal.

  11. YellowdogLiberal
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    Again…

    Make the legislators who voted for this pee in a cup before they get their state checks.

    It’s only fair. Who knows what goes on in those rooms at the Jayhawk and other hostels in the Topeka area?

    Dennis

  12. totoinks
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    Let’s take it one step further and demand drug testing of all people who get tax subsidies – such as corporations, farmers,oil companies and churches if they get money from the taxpayers. Any person or company that gets any type of taxpayer money should be randomly drug tested.

    I wonder how many upstanding citizens would be found out to have a particular problem?

    If the point is to be sure our taxpayer money is not being wasted, then let’s go the whole 9 yards and get everybody who get tax subsidies – not just the welfare people.

  13. totoinks
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    Regular
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:49 am | Permalink
    “You want Grandma and Grandpa to come down to a state office building and pee in a cup so that they can take care of their grandchildren?”

    You betcha!

    Especially if Grandma and Grandpa are snorting blow and sticking needles in their veins taking illegal drugs.

    I agree but let’s get everybody – even those who live in an assisted living unit and living off the VA.

  14. Regular
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 5:32 pm | Permalink

    totoinks
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    Regular
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:49 am | Permalink
    “You want Grandma and Grandpa to come down to a state office building and pee in a cup so that they can take care of their grandchildren?”

    You betcha!

    Especially if Grandma and Grandpa are snorting blow and sticking needles in their veins taking illegal drugs.

    I agree but let’s get everybody – even those who live in an assisted living unit and living off the VA
    ==========================
    Sure, I have nothing to hide. I p..e..e. in the bottle every three months for my diabetes check up anyway.

  15. bth
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

    “Boxlock20
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:03 am | Permalink
    And using debit cards instead of food stamps, (reducing the public stigma) and giving them to those abusing the system simply enables more and more to do so.
    And there are many many people that are perfectly happy to simply live on the government dole, that is the honest taxpayer.”

    Yea – like all these execs at GM, AIG, Merrill Lynch/BofA, Chrysler, Citigroup …

  16. Jed
    Posted March 31, 2009 at 1:34 am | Permalink

    Boxic,
    “I once stood in line at the check out of a grocery store and watched a group of young adults buy junk food with food stamps, a very small amount, and hand the change back to others who bought beer and cigarettes. Great use of tax dollars.”

    Geez you’re on a tear! That must’ve been a long time ago- food stamps haven’t been used for decades. Even then, cash change was limited to less than $1. Oh, the sin of it all!