Open thread 3/30

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279 Comments

  1. Maggotpunk
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 6:02 am | Permalink

    Republicans whine that nationalizing the banks will lead to disaster because their hero, zombie Reagan (one of the worst Presidents of the 20th century) decried government that the ‘guvmint’ can’t do anything right (when a Republican is running it anyway). It seems the only state owned bank is doing pretty well despite the naysayers.

    The Bank of North Dakota is the only state-owned bank in America—what Republicans might call an idiosyncratic bastion of socialism. It also earned a record profit last year even as its private-sector corollaries lost billions. To be sure, it owes some of its unusual success to North Dakota’s well-insulated economy, which is heavy on agricultural staples and light on housing speculation. But that hasn’t stopped out-of-state politicos from beating a path to chilly Bismarck in search of advice. Could opening state-owned banks across America get us out of the financial crisis? It certainly might help, says Ellen Brown, author of the book, Web of Debt, who writes that the Bank of North Dakota, with its $4 billion under management, has avoided the credit freeze by “creating its own credit, leading the nation in establishing state economic sovereignty.” Mother Jones spoke with the Bank of North Dakota’s president, Eric Hardmeyer.

    More at:
    http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2009/03/how-nation%E2%80%99s-only-state-owned-bank-became-envy-wall-street

  2. American_Way
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 7:00 am | Permalink

    “MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Welders, bricklayers and other construction workers under the U.S. government’s $787 billion stimulus law would earn significantly higher wages in some areas than crews on private, non-stimulus projects.

    Wage rules in the law are a potential bonus to workers’ wallets but they’re upsetting contractors who say it will increase their costs and reduce the numbers of projects that can be funded.

    Tucked within the 407-page law is a requirement that laborers and mechanics employed on government stimulus projects be paid “prevailing wages,” which is defined as the salary and fringe benefits for corresponding work on similar projects in the area. The prevailing wage is usually on par with union wages and higher than the average wages for the same category of employees in the same county.

    For bricklayers in Madison, for example, the “prevailing wage” is $30.61 per hour but the average bricklayer there earns $25.77 per hour, according to the U.S. Labor Department. Working 40 hours per week over one year, a bricklayer under the prevailing wage would earn $10,000 more. The prevailing wage for cement workers is $29.78 per hour in Madison, compared to the average cement worker wages there of just $20.80 per hour — an annual difference of $18,678.

    Major U.S. government construction projects have required contractors to pay prevailing wages since 1931, but the Labor Department has acknowledged that the stimulus law will apply the same wage standard to certain projects that previously weren’t covered. It plans to release new instructions but hasn’t said when that might happen.

    Labor groups — which have overwhelmingly supported President Barack Obama and Democrats in Congress who voted for the stimulus law — are pleased. But contractors and home builders said they were worried about rising costs on stimulus projects, including plans to improve the energy efficiency of homes owned by low-income people.

    “It’s not clear the full extent to which it will be applied into areas in which it (the prevailing wage) has never been utilized,” said Josh Ulman, a consultant for Associated Builders and Contractors, a trade group.

    Another trade group, the National Association of Homebuilders, said it will jack up costs, reducing the number of homes that will benefit from $5 billion in weatherization upgrades. Only a small number of its 200,000 residential homebuilders pay the prevailing wage, spokeswoman Jenna Hamilton said. Most homebuilders aren’t unionized and have never dealt with the prevailing wage requirements, she said.”

    Besides the fact that the taxpayers will get less bang for the bucks on stimulus funded projects – what happens after the stimulus money runs out?

  3. beber
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 7:39 am | Permalink

    Consequential: First you wave Old Glory, then you bellow about Jesus, then you bomb an abortion clinic, then you ……

  4. beber
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 7:40 am | Permalink

    Condescend: What happens to Cons after they die.

  5. beber
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 7:44 am | Permalink

    Concommittal: Duke Cunningham, Abrams, etc
    Concommitted: Martha Stewart
    NonConcommittal: Dr. Tillar

  6. beber
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 7:47 am | Permalink

    InConceivable: Global warming; that which interferes with profit.

  7. Mary_Caruso
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 7:53 am | Permalink

    From the book of questions:

    Given the ability to project yourself into the past, but not return, would you do so? Where would you go and what would you try to accomplish if you knew you might change the course of history?

  8. MODERATE
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 7:53 am | Permalink

    Instead of constantly cutting the Eagle back, reducing the pages, reducing the news and reducing the content. Why don’t the owners of the paper ask us for a slight price increase. I would rather pay more and still get a decent paper. The owners are cutting the paper back and I may cancel soon as I get almost no news from the paper anymore.

  9. BlueJay
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:06 am | Permalink

    Here, we have the paradox of attempting to alter the past.

    While there are many past events that I would attempt to alter, doing so would almost definitely result in change significant enough that I could never be born in the first place.

    For instance, if I went back to ancient Greece and tried to encourage the Ionian culture, I MIGHT save humanity a thousand years of lost time. But I would likely also disrupt the lives of millions not yet born including my ancestors.

    But then, if I am never born, I cannot go back in time and try to make the alteration.

  10. Boxlock20
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    Al Gore ignores ‘Earth Hour’
    Driveway to Nashville mansion flooded with electricity
    Drew Johnson, the president of the Tennessee Center for Policy Research

    “Al Gore’s “An Inconvenient Truth” may have inspired many to participate in yesterday’s “Earth Hour” by switching off their lights from 8:30 p.m. to 9 p.m., but maybe the former vice president didn’t get the memo.

    Drew Johnson, the president of the Tennessee Center for Policy Research, decided to drive by Gore’s mansion in Nashville at 8:48 p.m. and records that floodlights were on illuminating the driveway leading up to the main quarter.

    “I pulled up to Al’s house, located in the posh Belle Meade section of Nashville, at 8:48 p.m. – right in the middle of Earth Hour,” he wrote on his blog. “I found that the main spotlights that usually illuminate his 9,000 square foot mansion were dark, but several of the lights inside the house were on.”

    He added: “The kicker, though, were the dozen or so floodlights grandly highlighting several trees and illuminating the driveway entrance of Gore’s mansion. I [kid] you not, my friends, the savior of the environment couldn’t be bothered to turn off the gaudy lights that show off his goofy trees.”

  11. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:12 am | Permalink

    He added: “The kicker, though, were the dozen or so floodlights grandly highlighting several trees and illuminating the driveway entrance of Gore’s mansion. I [kid] you not, my friends, the savior of the environment couldn’t be bothered to turn off the gaudy lights that show off his goofy trees.”
    ======================

    See Cosmos & BlueJay,

    Al’s just in it for the money!

  12. BlueJay
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:16 am | Permalink

    “I found that the main spotlights that usually illuminate his 9,000 square foot mansion were dark,”

  13. BlueJay
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:22 am | Permalink

    Ya know, I I’m Al Gore and I am the focus of attention for people who threaten to duel their air conditioners with their heaters and go out of their way to break the law lighting tire fires?

    Maybe I leave some of my lights on too.

  14. Regular
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:28 am | Permalink

    Here Ya GO SMOKERS! President Drama O’Bama got something for Ya!

    Single Largest Cigarette Tax Hike Goes Into Effect Wednesday
    President Obama signed a law early in his administration to raise taxes from 39 cents to $1.01 per pack of cigarettes and from 19.5 cents to 50 cents per pound for chewing tobacco.

    WASHINGTON — However they satisfy their nicotine cravings, tobacco users are facing a big hit as the single largest federal tobacco tax increase ever takes effect Wednesday.

    Tobacco companies and public health advocates, longtime foes in the nicotine battles, are trying to turn the situation to their advantage. The major cigarette makers raised prices a couple of weeks ago, partly to offset any drop in profits once the per-pack tax climbs from 39 cents to $1.01.

    Medical groups see a tax increase right in the middle of a recession as a great incentive to help persuade smokers to quit.

    Tobacco taxes are soaring to finance a major expansion of health insurance for children. President Obama signed that health initiative soon after taking office.

    cont’d at:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/29/single-largest-cigarette-tax-hike-goes-effect-wednesday/

  15. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    Heheheh. Well, the source of the Al Gore story was world nut daily, so I wouldnt take it as the truth.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=93315

  16. BlueJay
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:32 am | Permalink

    “Single Largest Cigarette Tax Hike Goes Into Effect Wednesday
    President Obama signed a law early in his administration to raise taxes from 39 cents to $1.01 per pack of cigarettes and from 19.5 cents to 50 cents per pound for chewing tobacco.”

    Well there goes my tithe money. Oh well.

  17. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:33 am | Permalink

    Single Largest Cigarette Tax Hike Goes Into Effect Wednesday
    ========================

    Taxing the poor.

  18. Regular
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:42 am | Permalink

    Monday, March 30, 2009

    Today’s Weather:

    HI 61° F
    LO 32° F
    Partly Cloudy

    Tomorrow’s Weather:

    HI 54° F
    LO 32° F
    Partly Cloudy

    Record Temperatures:

    HI 83 °F (1917)
    LO 18 °F (1964)

    Today in History:

    March 30th 1814 Britain & allies march into Paris after defeating Napoleon

    1867 Secretary of State William H. Seward reached agreement with Russia to purchase the territory of Alaska for $7.2 million, a deal roundly ridiculed as “Seward’s Folly.”

    March 30th 1953 Einstein announces revised unified field theory

  19. Mary_Caruso
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:42 am | Permalink

    The largest percentage of smokers live at or below poverty level. I’m always amazed at how the poorest of the poor in this country can always find the money to buy cigarettes. I’ve seen people go without food rather than go without their smokes..addiction sucks.
    One of my patients finally gave up a life long smoking habit due to the cost…so I think it’s a good thing to raise the tax on tobacco.
    He’s so proud of himself, and I’m proud of him, too.

  20. Mary_Caruso
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:44 am | Permalink

    “Given the ability to project yourself into the past, but not return, would you do so? Where would you go and what would you try to accomplish if you knew you might change the course of history?”

    I would go back before man walked on the earth and scuba dive in the oceans. I’ll bet it was amazing!!!!

  21. Mary_Caruso
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:46 am | Permalink

    Or..I’d go back and follow Jesus around to see if he really could walk on water and raise the dead.

  22. Regular
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    Given the ability to project yourself into the past, but not return, would you do so? Where would you go and what would you try to accomplish if you knew you might change the course of history?

    I’d go back to the beginning of the universe with an ancient Polaroid Land Camera, take some snapshots and put them on the bulletin board of the Big Bang and Evolutionist’s Hall of Shame

    I’d get the patent on the paper clip. :)

  23. BlueJay
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    WAAAAAY back. I don’t know that you could even find the first instance.

    I’d want to meet the first human who coined the idea of Gods and Godesses, etc.Probably, this person or persons would believe the Sun or Moon to be “Gods”. I would teach them that the Sun is indeed good and to be appreciated, even worshiped, but that it is not a “God”. I would do my best to free mankind from the burden of religion.

  24. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    I would go back to Saturday and move my car so that ice loaded branch would not have fallen out of the tree onto my hood.

  25. SolDevVB
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    March 28, 2009

    Dear Friend of Liberty,

    Although it sometimes seems that freedom is shrinking everywhere we turn, the fact is a powerful grassroots stand can still stop Big Government bureaucrats in their tracks.

    That is exactly what happened to the Missouri Highway Patrol this week after being forced by your vocal outrage to retract the incendiary Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) report.

    This report identified peaceful, freedom-loving Americans as possible security threats, simply for supporting Ron Paul or opposing tyrannical government.

    Faced with an overwhelming public outcry, Missouri officials quickly started backpedaling, removing references to Ron Paul and Campaign for Liberty.

    Then, just hours before Dr. Paul’s plane touched down in St. Louis to lead our Celebration of Freedom rally Friday night, the Missouri Highway Patrol officially retracted the entire offending document.

    The Missouri Highway Patrol will be performing an investigation into the origin of the report. Lieutenant Governor Peter Kinder has even called for the suspension of the Director of Public Safety until those responsible have been identified.

    Click here to read the news report.

    It is no surprise that oversight and accountability are in short supply at the MIAC, a Big Government “fusion center” combining federal, state and local agencies into an unconstitutional mess of a bureaucracy. But government disorganization is no excuse for making political profiling and persecution into official policy.

    This victory for the grassroots freedom movement, coupled with this weekend’s Campaign for Liberty Regional Conference in St. Louis, marks a great moment for liberty in Missouri and all of America.

    This week we saw that politicians still respond to the voices of their constituents.

    This week we saw that freedom can triumph over tyranny when we unite to take a stand.

  26. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:23 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica
    Posted March 29, 2009 at 10:57 pm | Permalink
    I think that without any oversight, something like this WEBlog would degenerate into exactly what it’s become.

    Some improvement has occured since the editors have instituted registration, but other than that, the incessant sniping and personal attacks must have turned off many, many potential posters.

    Not only is The Eagle’s “hands off” policy bad for the Blog, it’s bad for the business of the Blog.
    ————————————–

    Oh PLEASE bring on the UnFairness Doctrine so speech everywhere can be censored.

    Capn sounds like the Dictator Obama.

  27. YellowdogLiberal
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    OK, Amway, so the contractors will have to pay a living wage instead of stuffing all of it in their pockets. More anti-union sniveling from the right.

    Yeah, I’m a businessman, I know the cost of things and how you have to keep control of the cash. But I’m also an ex-union member who has negotiated several contracts. That’s where you find out what management really thinks of you.

    Dennis

  28. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    Speaking of Dictators, look who sounds like a Dictator – Firing GM’s CEO, Giving Orders and Deadlines to Auto Companies.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/30/obama-denies-bailout-funds-automakers-sets-restructure-deadline/

    Obama Denies Bailout Funds for U.S. Automakers, Sets Restructure Deadline

    Neither GM nor Chrysler submitted acceptable plans to receive more U.S. government bailout money, the White House says, setting the stage for a crisis in Detroit.

    The White House says neither GM nor Chrysler submitted acceptable plans to receive more bailout money, setting the stage for a crisis in Detroit and putting in motion what could be the final two months of two American auto giants.

    The Obama administration, however, has decided not to require the automakers to immediately repay government loan money they previously received, since that would force both companies into Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

  29. beber
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:27 am | Permalink

    You know, tobacco isn’t that hard to grow in Kansas, and it’s perfectly legal to do so. Some of the strongest tobaccos are ornamentals. Learn a bit about drying and curing, and your habits would cost you a few bucks a year.

    BTW: a single tobacco plant can be HUGE. I’d estimate at least the equivalent of 100 packs of cigarettes. That’s a $500 plant boys and girls. I’m just saying . . . .

  30. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    Obama sounds like The GodFather, first giving the auto companies a loan, then 3 months later demanding the auto companies do what he says – OR ELSE!

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/30/obama-denies-bailout-funds-automakers-sets-restructure-deadline/

    In an interview with CBS’ “Face the Nation” broadcast Sunday, Obama said the companies must do more to receive additional financial aid from the government.

    “We think we can have a successful U.S. auto industry. But it’s got to be one that’s realistically designed to weather this storm and to emerge — at the other end — much more lean, mean and competitive than it currently is,” Obama said.

    Instead, the administration has decided to give Chrysler 30 days to work out a deal with Fiat and GM 60 days to come up with a new restructuring plan. Both companies will be provided with “some working capital” during those time periods.

  31. beber
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    Content: A sixty-foot deisel pusher with three slide outs.

  32. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    Oh, and I’m sure Obama is THE ONE to draw up a realistic design for the auto companies to weather this storm.

    Obama has been so successful at running corporations in the past. (cough, cough)

    So, from this point forward, the Government managed auto companies, banks, and insurance companies can be expected to make huge profits, since they are so well managed by Government.

  33. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    I’d go back and advise Hinckley to use an assault weapon, or grenade!

  34. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    Chrysler’s potential deal with Fiat has a couple of requirements: Fiat’s ownership must initially be less than the 35% US Government stake in the company, and it’s not to rise above 49% until the new loan money is fully repaid. Chrysler will be provided up to $6 billion in additional working capital during the restructuring period.

    In his comments tomorrow, Obama “will be clear that greater sacrifices are required from all stakeholders,” officials said.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/30/obama-denies-bailout-funds-automakers-sets-restructure-deadline/

    DICTATING the Deal.

    DEMANDING SACRIFICES to THE ONE.

    Dur Fuhrer Obama!

    Heil!

  35. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    The Indians will make a killing selling cigarettes on the reservations.

  36. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:35 am | Permalink

    Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:32 am | Permalink
    I’d go back and advise Hinckley to use an assault weapon, or grenade!
    ———————————-

    So Capn, is the kind of civil blog you wanted?

    Or an example of how this blog has degenerated?

  37. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:35 am | Permalink

    Glad they cleared out the GM board, Waggoner needed to go too. They should do the same with the financial companies being bailed out. No one is irreplaceable.

  38. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    No Reagan, no bush, America would be saved.

  39. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:40 am | Permalink

    How’s Obama’s Stock Market today?

    7,504.74

    Change:-271.44

    -3.49%

    It’s early yet, might break below 7,000 yet today.

    Heil!

  40. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    McClatchy’s S*cks Today -

    McClatchy Newspapers, Inc. MNI (NYSE)

    $0.59

    Change:-0.10

    -14.49%

    THAT is CHANGE you can Believe In!!!!

  41. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    So, what’s the markets gain for March?

  42. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    Just consider your losses under bush as sacrifices for the pary philosophy.

  43. beber
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    Consider: Like Bush was to Cheney.

  44. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    ConVex- putting the evil eye on Obama.
    ConCave-Cheney’s undisclosed location.

  45. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    ConTemplate- Reaganomics aka voodoo economics.

  46. Boxlock20
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    The destruction of an EMP strike has been a subject of discussion for some time now and many are unaware of the devastation that would follow. Gingrich provides information showing the reality of such concerns and provides info on the source documents containing research on this threat.

    http://homelandsecurity.tamu.edu/framework/threats/emp/report-to-the-commission-to-assess-the-threat-to-the-united-states-from-electromagnetic-pulse-emp-attack.html

    A Single Nuke Could Destroy America

    Sunday, March 29, 2009 4:23 PM

    By: Newt Gingrich and William Forstchen

    There is a sword of Damocles over our heads. It is a threat that is real but has been all but ignored.

    “On February 3rd, Iran launched a “communications satellite” into orbit. At this very moment, North Korea is threatening to do the same. The ability to launch an alleged communications satellite belies a far more frightening truth. A rocket that can carry a satellite into orbit can also drop a nuclear warhead over any location on the planet in less than forty-five minutes.

    Far too many timid or uninformed sources maintain that a single launch of a missile poses no true threat to the United States given our retaliatory power. A reality check is in order and must be discussed in response to such an absurd claim:

    One small nuclear weapon, delivered by an ICBM can, in fact, destroy the United States by maximizing the effect of the resultant electromagnetic pulse upon detonation.

    An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) is a by-product of detonating an atomic bomb above the Earth’s atmosphere. When a nuclear weapon is detonated in space, the gamma rays emitted trigger a massive electrical disturbance in the upper atmosphere. Moving at the speed of light, this overload will short out all electrical equipment, power grids and delicate electronics on the earth’s surface. In fact, it would take only one to three weapons exploding above the continental United States to wipe out our entire grid and transportation network. It might take years to recover from, if ever.

    This is not science fiction. If you doubt this, spend a short amount of time skimming the Report of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack from April 2008. You will come away sobered.

    Even as the new Administration plans to spend trillions on economic bail outs, it has announced plans to reduce funding and downgrade efforts for missile defense. Furthermore, the reluctance by the United States to invest in a modern and credible traditional nuclear deterrent is a serious concern. What good will a bailout be if there is no longer a nation to bail out?

    Fifty years ago it was not Sputnik itself that sent a dire chill of warning around the world; it was the capability of the rocket that launched Sputnik. The rocket that lofted Sputnik into orbit could also serve as an ICBM.

    Yet for all its rhetoric, the Soviet Union was essentially a rational power that recognized the threat of mutual destruction and thus never stepped to the edge.

    The world is different today. Intercontinental range missiles tipped with nuclear weapons in the hands of leaders driven by fanaticism, leaders that support global terrorism, leaders that have made repeated threats that they will seek our annihilation. . .can now at last achieve their dream of our annihilation in a matter of minutes.

    Those who claim that there is little to fear from Iran or North Korea because “at best” they will only have one or two nuclear weapons, ignore the catastrophic level of threat we now face from just “a couple” of nuclear weapons.

    Again: One to three missiles tipped with nuclear weapons and armed to detonate at a high altitude—to achieve the strongest EMP over the greatest area of the United States—would create an EMP “overlay” that triggers a continental-wide collapse of our entire electrical, transportation and communications infrastructure.

    Within weeks after such an attack, tens of millions of Americans would perish. The impact has been likened to a nationwide Hurricane Katrina. Some studies estimate that 90% of all Americans might very well die in the year after such an attack as our transportation, food distribution, communications, public safety, law enforcement and medical infrastructures collapse.

    It is a blow we most likely would never recover from. Two things need to be done now and without delay.

    1. Make clear in the strongest of terms that if a rocket is launched by either Iran or North Korea on a trajectory headed towards the territory of the United States, we will shoot it down. The risk of not doing so is beyond acceptable. And if they construe this as an act of war, so be it, for they fired the first shot. The risk of sitting back for thirty minutes and praying it is not an EMP strike is beyond acceptable, beyond rational on our part.

    2. Funding for EMP defense must be a top national priority. To downgrade or halt our missile defense program, which after twenty five years of research is at last becoming viable, would be an action of criminal negligence.

    Surely, with such a threat confronting us, a fair and open debate, with full public access and the setting aside of partisan politics, is in order. In the meantime, a policy must be stated today that we will indeed shoot down any missile aimed towards the United States that is fired by Iran or North Korea. America’s survival, your survival, and your family’s survival might very well depend on it.
    ==================================================================================

  47. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    ConFused- stick of dynamite at Tiller’s clinic.

  48. Boxlock20
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    The full report is found at:

    Bibliographic Entry: “Report to the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack.” April, 2008. Critical National Infrastructures. http://www.empcommission.org/docs/A2473-EMP_Commission-7MB.pdf (Accessed November 7, 2008).

  49. cosmos_originally
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:01 am | Permalink

    Wow! bigotbawks finally learned about the long-known EMP threat.

  50. donndublin
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:01 am | Permalink

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    Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    No Reagan, no bush, America would be saved.
    ______________

    What’s the matter comrade? Are you still sad that the Soviet Union was defeated?

  51. Boxlock20
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    Dimwit comatose,
    I have known and been concerned for a long time, but we at least had a President who was also, not so now.

  52. okobserver
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    DOW down 209! Where is the town cryer Chas when we need him to tell us how well the market is doing. Seems the business world isn’t buying BOs plans. Wonder why?

    You claim the gains you get the loses.

  53. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    Reagan defeated the communist with a speech, Tear Down that Wall; just think what he could’ve done to Al-Quida with a Throw Down those Weapons speech!

  54. BlueJay
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    The other day, the DOW was up 300.

    Do you cons just report when it rains? Where are ya when the sun is shinin’?

    Oh yeah, under a rock.

  55. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:09 am | Permalink

    Obama is like Waggoner, he inherited a mess, if he can’t right the ship in four yrs. he’ll be fired too.

  56. okobserver
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:15 am | Permalink

    BJ I used to worry about people like you that don’t have a clue about the economy. But lately I have been blogging on a site that has liberals that have realized what Obama is doing to our country. I have been listening to democrat senators and congressmen and see them telling Obama ‘no more’.

    This gives me hope that the WEbloggers on the left are indeed a small if vocal minority and really have no influence on bills going forward.

  57. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:17 am | Permalink

    ConCommitment- dedicating oneself to benefitting the wealthy.

  58. Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:18 am | Permalink

    Jim Johnson–

    If anyone threatens someone with death–public figure or no, the post should be pulled.

    If it continually occurs, the poster should be banned.

    IMHO.

  59. Hud
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:18 am | Permalink

    “The other day, the DOW was up 300.”

    What day was this BJ?

  60. BlueJay
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    “But lately I have been blogging on a site that has liberals that have realized what Obama is doing to our country. ”

    I have to go, so you have plenty of time to provide a link to prove that. Link the blog and tell us what nic you are using there.

    Or, admit you’re blowing smoke.

  61. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    ConFirm- Any of the bailed out companies.
    (I’ve got to stop this!)

  62. okobserver
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    Phantom when Obama was doing his interviews while trying to get this job he kept telling us he had a plan. He didn’t say it will take me 4 years to clear up the mess left by Bush. It will get so much worse before we can ever expect it to get better. He got everything he asked for and still the market stalls, unemployment has hit new highs historically and still no plan.

    When does he stop whining about the mess he inherited and start doing something positive. Raising our utility bills through the roof with cap and trade isn’t positive. Making nice with those who would like nothing better than to wipe us off the map isn’t progress.

    What has he done besides raising the deficit by the same amount of the entire deficit from prez 1 to 43. Spending more money in less than 3 months than W did in 8 years. What more can we give him before he gives us the ‘plan’.

  63. okobserver
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    BJ do your own research. The blog is out of Virginia. They are suffering big time from this prez and his lack of knowledge and no leadership skills.

    Blowhard haven’t you learned yet that your toughman approach is funny and makes you look very foolish. Or maybe you just are that foolish.

    I have to prove nothing to you.

  64. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    Rome wasn’t built in a day.

  65. BlueJay
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    Heh. Didn’t even have to wait for it.

    Busted okie. Link it or eat it.

  66. okobserver
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    BJ if you plan to read a book this year as you did last year I suggest Mark Levins book. It give very good insight about our country and the constitution. I know of course you won’t read it but thought I would challenge you to better inform yourself so you could carry on an intelligent debate.

  67. okobserver
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    BlueJay
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:25 am | Permalink
    Heh. Didn’t even have to wait for it.

    Busted okie. Link it or eat it.

    ——–

    You just never learn do you. One good source for you would be the democrat congressmen and senators who have cut the purse strings for BO.

    I know you don’t work but maybe this wouldn’t be too hard.

    Have fun in the snow.

  68. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    ConTribute- daily praising of St. Ronnie, and Reagonomics.

  69. HLP
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    #
    beber
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    Content: A sixty-foot deisel pusher with three slide outs.
    ___________________________________________

    Not to be too picky, beber, but I think 45′ is about as big as the come.

    http://www.newellcoach.com/flash.html

  70. Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    “If anyone threatens someone with death–public figure or no, the post should be pulled.

    If it continually occurs, the poster should be banned.” [CapNA]

    I agree CapN.

  71. HLP
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    You can get four slideouts though.

  72. BlueJay
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    “But lately I have been blogging on a site that has liberals that have realized what Obama is doing to our country. ”

    All you have to do is prove it.

    Or, admit you made it up.

    Thank you no, on Mark Levin’s book. He is insane and evil.

    You’ll have to do better cons. Otherwise, I don’t even need to show up.

    Ta!

  73. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    ConSequence- 1)Destroy the economy. 2) Blame the Democrats!

  74. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    Virginia, is that the state that doesn’t want any govt. stimulus?

  75. Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    Phantom, get more coffee, you’re on a huge roll… LOL

  76. cosmos_originally
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    Some great laughs, from a couple of typical AGW science deniers.

    Lord Monckton and Rep. John Shimkus Declare Global Warming Emissions “Plant Food”
    http://www.desmogblog.com/lord-monckton-and-rep-john-shimkus-declare-global-warming-emissions-plant-food

  77. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    ConFigure-Sarah Palin.

  78. Predestined
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    >>he kept telling us he had a plan. He didn’t say it will take me 4 years to clear up the mess left by Bush.

    I see someone was watching all that campaigning with the sound off.

  79. dadman
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    COMMUNISM : . . . . Noun .. ( Webster )
    • A form of socialism that abolishes private ownership
    • A political theory favoring collectivism in a classless society
    • A theory and system of social and political organization that dominated much of the history of the 20th century .. In theory .. communism is a classless society in which all property is owned by the community as a whole and where all people enjoy equal social and economic status ..
    As a political movement .. communism sought to overthrow capitalism through a workers’ revolution and redistribute the wealth into the hands of the proletariat .. or working class
    • Marxists believe that just as society has evolved from feudalism to capitalism .. it will evolve into socialism and eventually communism

    =======================================

    CoMMSequence- 1) “Destroy the economy. 2) Blame the Democrats!” . . . man you got that one right

  80. Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    Anybody wonder if maybe all of this infighting and bickering is what Kruchev might have meant when he said “we will defeat you without ever firing a shot”??

  81. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    Chas
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:51 am | Permalink
    Anybody wonder if maybe all of this infighting and bickering is what Kruchev might have meant when he said “we will defeat you without ever firing a shot”??
    —————

    I don’t know, Kruchev was pretty drunk at the time.

  82. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    “we will defeat you without ever firing a shot”
    =======================

    Today this statement applies to the Chinese, IMO.

  83. American_Way
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    “Chrysler’s potential deal with Fiat has a couple of requirements: Fiat’s ownership must initially be less than the 35% US Government ”

    Hey JimJohnson! If I was Fiat – why not just BACK OUT of the deal and wait for GM to declare bankruptcy.

    This has the advantage of buying GM on the cheap, dictating their OWN rules from receivership, and the advantage of no union contracts.

    Why on earth would a business person VOLUNTEER for the crap the US Government and politicians are handing out to the “evil CEO’s”?

  84. dadman
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    R U S H .. L I M B A U G H
    Keep up the good work Rush .. we love you

      . . . . . . . . . . . . ( Click Here to Listen On-Line )

  85. dadman
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    IT WILL BE AN AMERIKA where our major industries, crippled by government mandates, taxes, and regulations, end up becoming taxpayer-supported dinosaurs that can no longer compete in the global marketplace

  86. beber
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    Way to go Phantom: Concave was the best, I had in mind a very similar Contemplate: Ronald Reagan, stamp, Ronald Regan, stamp, Fondled Reegan, stamp, Bundled Big One, stamp, urch screech.

  87. beber
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    Consecrated: The unborn
    Demons: Democratic babies.

  88. American_Way
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    ““we will defeat you without ever firing a shot”??”

    No, I think he was foretelling the arrival of the Obama’s and the far left.

  89. Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    Amazing misdirect there, ANTI…

  90. Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    AmWay, do you like Meadowlarks?? just wondering, since you sing like one :-)

  91. okobserver
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    I think the entire quote was something like – ‘Give us one generation of your children and we will defeat you without firing a shot’. We have done this with the lefts kidnapping of the public education system. See the results.

  92. Hud
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    Amazing misdirect there, CHAS…

  93. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    ““we will defeat you without ever firing a shot”??”
    Must’ve been talking about China.

  94. Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    I remember when I was in school, that there was a rule that girls couldnt wear jeans or slacks to school… Even in Winter — Then they allowed girls to wear jeans UNDER their dresses or skirts… as long as they were removed as soon as they got to school..

    I guess some people would like to see education return to those more… ummm… produktiv years, eh??

  95. American_Way
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    Chas, you should consider yourself lucky the internet has not advanced to the point of allowing me to sing on the blog. I was kicked out of choir at my old Lutheran Church because I couldn’t carry a tune (and that’s pretty bad). I also was kicked out of junior high chorus because of my singing abilities (I only joined because there was a pretty girl.)

  96. American_Way
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    ” guess some people would like to see education return to those more… ummm… produktiv years, eh??”

    You know of course, there is a movement to requiring a strict dress code in public schools nationwide.

  97. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:27 am | Permalink
    ““we will defeat you without ever firing a shot”??”
    Must’ve been talking about China.
    ===========================

    ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:56 am | Permalink
    “we will defeat you without ever firing a shot”
    =======================

    Today this statement applies to the Chinese, IMO.

  98. Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    Lately, there have been numerous suggestions that all students wear some sort of “uniform” — Sort of like kids were required to wear back in the days of the USSR…

    And back when jeans were banned for girls, if a girl broke the “rule” she was sent home, and given a ZERO for the day… I never understood it back then… And I dont understand the “uniform” thing now!! And so many gripe about “control” hmmmm…

  99. Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    Gee, Hud, I had no idea you were really a bi-polar parrot… I learn new things daily!!

  100. Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    Hmmmm… I didnt know Lutherans ever kicked anybody out of the choir… They didnt when I was still a Lutheran… LOL

  101. American_Way
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    Missouri-Synod. And yes, I was pretty bad.

  102. outlander
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    Liber al: The Goracle

    Liberate: What the libs did when offered the government cheese.

    Liberty: What the libs drink to wash down the AGW hysteria they swallow.

  103. dadman
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Let’s face it .. when you get right down to it, all of liberalism is fueled by a singular strategy .. a strategy which has been continually perfected and relentlessly executed over the past forty years .. That strategy is to promote and exploit divisiveness

  104. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:47 am | Permalink

    ConSignment- The loaning of your magnetic yellow ribbons to a friend.

  105. outlander
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    Liberalize: What will be watching you when Obama’s “national service” organization gets going.

  106. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    I’ve long said the next war would be an Economic one.

  107. Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    Time to run errands… Later… Y’all have a good day!!

  108. outlander
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Libertine: What beber is always looking for.

  109. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:49 am | Permalink
    I’ve long said the next war would be an Economic one.
    ==================

    You won’t have to say it much longer. It’s here knocking on the front door. What will let it in is the only remaining question.

  110. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    Libertine: What beber is always looking for.
    =======================

    LMFAO!

  111. Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    dadman
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:46 am | Permalink
    Let’s face it .. when you get right down to it, all of liberalism is fueled by a singular strategy .. a strategy which has been continually perfected and relentlessly executed over the past forty years .. That strategy is to promote and exploit divisiveness
    ==========================================

    And how many years have democrats been in the White House in the past forty years??? TWELVE, dadman… the other 28 years were republicans… most of them promoting divisiveness… Every time Reagan said he wanted to get big government off the backs of the American people, we ended up with NEW government controls… and intervention….

  112. dadman
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    LIBERALISM : . . . Everything liberal politicians do is based on this simple principle .. Tell the people that are given to hating the most .. that they are the ones who are hated .. Tell the people who expect the most .. that they deserve more .. Tell blacks to hate whites .. Tell women to hate men .. Tell the lazy to hate the motivated .. Tell the poor that only conservatives are rich .. and then be sure to tell them to hate them for it

  113. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:35 am | Permalink
    Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:32 am | Permalink
    I’d go back and advise Hinckley to use an assault weapon, or grenade!
    ———————————-
    So Capn, is the kind of civil blog you wanted?
    Or an example of how this blog has degenerated?

    ——————————————————————–

    CapnAmerica
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:18 am | Permalink
    Jim Johnson–
    If anyone threatens someone with death–public figure or no, the post should be pulled.
    If it continually occurs, the poster should be banned.
    IMHO.
    ———————————————————————

    Very good, then we agree on one thing at least.

  114. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:35 am | Permalink
    Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:32 am | Permalink
    I’d go back and advise Hinckley to use an assault weapon, or grenade!
    ———————————-
    So Capn, is the kind of civil blog you wanted?
    Or an example of how this blog has degenerated?

    ================================================

    Chas
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:31 am | Permalink
    “If anyone threatens someone with death–public figure or no, the post should be pulled.
    If it continually occurs, the poster should be banned.” [CapNA]
    I agree CapN.

    =================================================

    Chas
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:38 am | Permalink
    Phantom, get more coffee, you’re on a huge roll… LOL

  115. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    okobserver
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:15 am | Permalink

    This gives me hope that the WEbloggers on the left are indeed a small if vocal minority and really have no influence on bills going forward.

    ——————————————

    That’s stating the obvious OK.

    I like the “Mr. Obvious” skits on Bob & Tom. One favorite is the Animal Under the Kitchen Sink. It growled every time the light switch was turned on. Reminds me of JR, sitting there beggin for scraps, and making a whole lot of noise while just sitting there.

  116. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    American_Way
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:03 am | Permalink
    “Chrysler’s potential deal with Fiat has a couple of requirements: Fiat’s ownership must initially be less than the 35% US Government ”

    Hey JimJohnson! If I was Fiat – why not just BACK OUT of the deal and wait for GM to declare bankruptcy.

    This has the advantage of buying GM on the cheap, dictating their OWN rules from receivership, and the advantage of no union contracts.

    Why on earth would a business person VOLUNTEER for the crap the US Government and politicians are handing out to the “evil CEO’s”?
    ==========================================

    Good question. Since Fiat is an Italian company, hopefully they have a CEO with the balls to tell Obama to stay the F out of his business.

    The American CEO’s are all under the Threat of Obama, the Dictator.

  117. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    American_Way
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:31 am | Permalink
    ” guess some people would like to see education return to those more… ummm… produktiv years, eh??”

    You know of course, there is a movement to requiring a strict dress code in public schools nationwide.
    =====================================

    Uniforms.

    With a BO symbol on the front and the back.

  118. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:56 am | Permalink
    JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:35 am | Permalink
    Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:32 am | Permalink
    I’d go back and advise Hinckley to use an assault weapon, or grenade!
    ———————————-
    So Capn, is the kind of civil blog you wanted?
    Or an example of how this blog has degenerated?

    ——————————————————————–

    CapnAmerica
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:18 am | Permalink
    Jim Johnson–
    If anyone threatens someone with death–public figure or no, the post should be pulled.
    If it continually occurs, the poster should be banned.
    IMHO.
    ———————————————————————

    Very good, then we agree on one thing at least.

    I agree, let me know if anyone does that!

  119. Monkeyhawk
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    Hmmm…

    Seems like all those energetic CONs who fantasize they’re the backbone of America and the producers of economic strength have nothing better to do on a Monday morning than snark the WE Blog and parrot Republic Party hacks’ talking points.

  120. dadman
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    LIBERALS : . . . Class warfare .. race baiting .. name calling and man-hating .. all with a singular goal .. to get themselves in power by promoting and exploiting divisiveness .. Of course .. once this divisiveness turns into frenzy .. these same people suddenly act as if they actually want to solve a problem that didn’t even exist before they did everything they possibly could to create it

  121. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    Jew killing Adolph Hitler, you’re a dead man if we ever cross paths!
    There, go whine to your mama.

  122. American_Way
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    Seems like all those energetic LIBs who fantasize they’re the backbone of America and the producers of economic strength have nothing better to do on a Monday morning than snark the WE Blog and parrot Democrat Party hacks’ talking points.

  123. American_Way
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    “There, go whine to your mama.”

    You know he could still be alive. The Ruskies never proved they killed him. Albeit, Adolph would be a very old man with erectile dysfunction.

    That could be a threat.

  124. StevenEDavis
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    CONflate – what conservatives do when preparing to “make love” AKA as inflate.

    CONservation – ironically, something conservatives never practice or believe in.

    CONsequences – costs that conservatives believe poor people should endure, but not rich people.

    CONcentric – logic and argument encircled by conservative sources which by definition must be true according to most CONs.

  125. American_Way
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    ” Since Fiat is an Italian company, hopefully they have a CEO with the balls to tell Obama to stay the F out of his business.”

    That’s why I’m suggesting the deal will not go through. Fiat should quietly end the talks.

    Then wait for GM to finally whither and die (which it will) and then buy what’s left. Minus the burden of union contracts.

  126. dadman
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    LIBERALS : . . . To liberals .. every issue .. every situation is an opportunity to divide .. History .. religion .. the First Amendment .. the Second Amendment .. the death of a soldier .. a political debate .. the hurricane which devastated New Orleans . . . Every tragedy exploited to divide .. Every victory belittled to divide .. Every incident .. every word .. every distorted statistic .. every holiday .. you name it .. they will find some way to divide it

  127. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    Steele says he’d make a run for the presidency, “If God were to will it”, guess unlike W Steele hasn’t heard the call yet!
    I knew Steele was the repub answer to Obama! LOL.

  128. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    dadman
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:47 am | Permalink
    COMMUNISM : . . . . Noun .. ( Webster )
    • A form of socialism that abolishes private ownership
    • A political theory favoring collectivism in a classless society
    • A theory and system of social and political organization that dominated much of the history of the 20th century .. In theory .. communism is a classless society in which all property is owned by the community as a whole and where all people enjoy equal social and economic status ..
    As a political movement .. communism sought to overthrow capitalism through a workers’ revolution and redistribute the wealth into the hands of the proletariat .. or working class
    • Marxists believe that just as society has evolved from feudalism to capitalism .. it will evolve into socialism and eventually communism

    =======================================

    CoMMSequence- 1) “Destroy the economy. 2) Blame the Democrats!” . . . man you got that one right
    =============================================

    From Manifesto of the Communist Party

    By Karl Marx and Fredrick Engels

    1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

    2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

    3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

    4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

    5. Centralisation of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

    6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

    7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

    8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

    9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.

    10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.

  129. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

    Mousad would’ve found him by now!

  130. dadman
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    Thanks JimJohnson . . . no one has YOU fooled .. I’ll mark that one for my archive . . . again .. thanks

  131. dadman
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    LIBERALS : . . . Unfortunately .. it’s not just the politicians who promote and exploit divisiveness .. it is the people as well .. Malcontents .. jealous of anyone with any sort of success .. come up with any way they can to attack those who are more successful then they are .. Someone is rich only because they stole something from them .. Certain groups are more successful only because they took advantage of them .. Work has nothing to do with it .. Intelligence has nothing to do with it .. Planning ahead has nothing to do with it .. Even luck has nothing to do with it

  132. XXX
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    Concave – Where Republicans should live.
    Convex – What republicans do to libs every time they open their mouths.
    Condense – Mental condition unique to Republicans.

  133. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    From Manifesto of the Communist Party

    By Karl Marx and Fredrick Engels

    1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

    >>>>Obama is off to a good start, first taking over corporations. The Kelo Supreme Court decision set the stage for the taking of private property for private use.

    2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

    >>>>>This is central to Obama’s plan, though he’s not advertising this yet.

    3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

    >>>>>Obama is all for the death tax. When someone dies, all their assets are taxed AGAIN, even though all income that person ever earned was already taxed by the Federal and State Governments. In effect, the Government takes everything, like vultures.

    4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

    >>>>>>”Rebel” being very loosely defined. This is just more of #1 while making a scapegoat out of immigrants and targeted people (like those evil CEO’s)

    5. Centralisation of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

    >>>>> Wow!!!! Obama has #5 taken care of already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

    >>>>> UnFairness Doctrine will take care of the communication. Global Warming controls will take over transportation.

    7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

    >>>>> WOW!!! Obama has this one down too!!!! GM, Chrysler, AIG, who’s next?????

    8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

    >>>>> Now Obama hasn’t quite learned this lesson yet. But he will. Socialism will fail, but Communism will forcefully make everyone work – at the end of a rifle if that’s what it takes. Do it or else! (Obama said that to the auto companies today!)

    9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.

    >>>>>>We’ll all have to spread out to work the fields. There will be few city factory jobs left, and the starving masses will have to work the fields in order to eat. JR will be hitched in front of a plow, Chas in the rear.

    10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.

    >>>>> Done. Complete. Indoctrination from K-12 and College is ongoing.

    Almost there folks.

    (If ya don’t like it, keep your powder dry.)

  134. dadman
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    LIBERALS : . . . And what do these kinds of people view as the solution to this imaginary injustice .. Why special rights .. privileges and opportunities for themselves .. of course . . . . Level the playing field .. spread someone else’s wealth around .. if you wlll .. and the will .. Get something for nothing . . . Take from the rich .. the white .. the male dominated .. homophobic society that has already given them everything . . . Take what they have .. what they built .. what they earned . . . whether it be money .. property .. liberty or opportunity .. and find some way .. some justification .. some cause or some guise to redistribute it to the people who have done nothing to earn it . . . To people who refuse to compete on merit .. To people who insist on taking more out of society than what they put in to it .. To people who don’t give a damn that their inclusion comes only at the expense of someone else’s exclusion . . .
    The strategy is simple .. really .. promote divisiveness and then exploit it for your own benefit

  135. dadman
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    LIBERALS : . . . Liberals should thank God every day for differences between people because without them .. liberalism would be dead in the water .. Without them .. the country might have some stability .. Without them .. it might have a chance to survive .. Without them .. the problems between those who want and those who have might actually be manageable in some meaningful or productive way .. But differences have given liberals the perfect opportunity to stop any rational discussion dead in its tracks .. Differences have led to polarization .. Differences have led to countries within a country .. Differences have led to the dreaded xist-ism-monger-phobia .. Differences have allowed liberals to add any of these four sounds to the end of any word they choose .. virtually guaranteeing that they can get away with anything they want

  136. brian_nuevo
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    In case any one is wondering ‘dadman’ is posting today from
    http://www.howtheleftwaswon.com/Excerpt.htm

    Plagiarize much?

  137. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    Not their fault dadman.

    They were born lazy and stupid. It’s a genetic defect, a disease. They are disabled, and handicapped, not simply worthless.

    A new Obama law will be used to take care of them:

    The Americans with No Abilities Act.

  138. cosmos_originally
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    outlander posted March 30, 2009 at 11:41 am

    Liberty: What the libs drink to wash down the AGW hysteria they swallow.
    —————–

    outlander,

    What do you drink to believe the stupidities and lies from your AGW science deniers?

    Rep. Shimkus: Too LITTLE Global Warming Pollution?
    http://blogs.nwf.org/arctic_promise/2009/03/rep-shimkus-too-little-global-warming-pollution.html

    outlander, would you like the Earth to be like it was in the Cambrian period?

  139. dadman
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    Wow .. brian can google . . .

    LIBERALS : . . . Worse yet .. liberals actually have the nerve to turn around and endlessly accuse conservatives of divisiveness .. To them .. conservatives .. who believe everyone should be held to the same standards .. are somehow divisive . . . To them .. conservatives .. who believe everyone should have the same rights regardless of the guises used to justify different ones for different people .. are somehow divisive .. To them .. conservatives .. who sacrifice their time .. money .. careers and often their lives to defend the true meaning of freedom and liberty .. are somehow divisive

  140. brian_nuevo
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    and ‘dadman’ can post things someone else wrote as his own.

  141. Posted March 30, 2009 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    It’s so sad to see these Americans allowing themselves to be turned into hysteric by the outrageous blogs and talking heads of the right wing hate machines.

  142. dadman
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    “The Americans with No Abilities Act” ??

    Isn’t Dick Durbin the sponsor of that ??

  143. brian_nuevo
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    ’tis the wonderful power of marketing DavidB

  144. dadman
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    LIBERALS : . . . But the reality is that divisiveness does not come from those who are trying to make some contribution to our society .. The reality is that divisiveness does not come from those who expect others to at least try to do the same .. The reality is that divisiveness comes from those who are always trying to get something out of a society far beyond what they are willing to put back in .. The reality is that divisiveness comes from those who are always trying to get something for nothing . . . . http://www.howtheleftwaswon.com/Excerpt.htm

  145. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    ConQuest-1)The conversion of the followers of Mohammad, and the Democratization of the Mid-east.
    2) An illfound concept.

  146. dadman
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Now if Brian has the guts to go back and consider what was posted .. he might learn something ?? . . . . . . . . . not

  147. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    Dog Schitt:

    You can paint it blue and put glitter on it, but it’s still Dog Schitt.

  148. beber
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    Consensual: Sex with Rush Limbaugh?

  149. beber
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    but if it’s moose turds is jewelry.

  150. beber
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    it’s

  151. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    Russia backs return to Gold Standard to solve financial crisis

    The world’s fiat paper currencies have lacked any external anchor ever since. It is widely argued that the financial excesses and extreme debt leverage of the last quarter century would have been impossible – or less likely – under the discipline of gold.

    Russia is a major gold producer with large untapped reserves of ore so it has a clear interest in promoting the idea. The Kremlin has already instructed the central bank of gradually raise the gold share of foreign reserves to 10pc.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/g20-summit/5072484/Russia-backs-return-to-Gold-Standard-to-solve-financial-crisis.html

  152. YellowdogLiberal
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    Dadman and JimJohnson, oh my. Fear, terror, flop sweat, panty wadding. It’s all here today.

    Must be terrible living in such an anxious state of mind all the time. I think it would get tiring after a while.

    Oh well. Hang in there guys, be sure to keep a close eye out for that blasted socialist Obama. He might git’cha.

    Dennis

  153. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Confine-GITMO

  154. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    ConVent-Repubs on the WeBlog.

  155. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    ConText-Usually incoherent.

  156. XXX
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Contrail – A path of pee and sweat and bunched panties.

  157. XXX
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    Contort – What Repub lawyers practice.

  158. XXX
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    Conform – You don’t even want to go there.

  159. XXX
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    Control – Reg, etc.

  160. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    XXX
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:08 pm | Permalink
    Control – Reg, etc.
    =======================

    Seems more like what you, beber and Phantom are doing today.

  161. Monkeyhawk
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    CONfusion — What they say vs. what they do.

  162. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    YellowdogLiberal
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 1:35 pm | Permalink
    Dadman and JimJohnson, oh my. Fear, terror, flop sweat, panty wadding. It’s all here today.

    Must be terrible living in such an anxious state of mind all the time. I think it would get tiring after a while.

    Oh well. Hang in there guys, be sure to keep a close eye out for that blasted socialist Obama. He might git’cha.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Must be terrible being a Lib, giving up on your ability to take care of yourself, and being dependent on Government for your existence.

    I suspect you enjoy the lack of effort needed in giving up, and in bending over and taking whatever Obama gives to you.

    You allow Socialism to embrace you from the rear, because you enjoy it. (Though you won’t admit it.)

  163. beber
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    Contention: Being savaged by humor and having none to fight back with.

  164. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    (It’s taking Monkeybrain all day to google his one-liners. Almost like work ain’t it? Better watch out, you might work enough to get a sweat going.)

  165. beber
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    Convention: a made-up philosphy? See Contradiction.

  166. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    San Francisco Bay Area shaken by 4.3 magnitude quake

    The Libs were really going at it this morning.

  167. Monkeyhawk
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    “JimJohnson” enlightens –

    “Must be terrible being a Lib, giving up on your ability to take care of yourself, and being dependent on Government for your existence.

    I suspect you enjoy the lack of effort needed in giving up, and in bending over and taking whatever Obama gives to you.

    You allow Socialism to embrace you from the rear, because you enjoy it. (Though you won’t admit it.)”

    I thought I sent the memo.

    It’s spelled “SOCIALISM!!!!”

    All caps, four bangs.

  168. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    Obama’s stock market is now below 7,500.

    Going down faster then BJ.

  169. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:34 pm | Permalink
    San Francisco Bay Area shaken by 4.3 magnitude quake

    The Libs were really going at it this morning.
    ========================================

    One reporter on the scene stated, “The smell of sweat and fecal matter was overpowering!”

  170. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    Lib’s are taling about Banning Guns again.

    (suprise!)

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/30/kerry-mexico-failed-state/

    Kerry: No National Guard to Southern Border, Bring Back Assault Weapons Ban

    The chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee says the U.S. and Mexico need to step up and build a “combined front” against Mexican drug smugglers, but using U.S. forces along the border could hurt the effort.

    FOXNews.com

    Monday, March 30, 2009

  171. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    The Massachusetts Democrat said the U.S. must “revive the ban on importing assault rifles into the United States,” which he attributed to the flood of weapons finding their way to Mexico. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms reports that the U.S. is responsible for close to 90 percent of the high-powered weapons that find their way to the Mexican drug cartels.

    However, Kerry said that only about one out of every four weapons seized by Mexican authorities last year was submitted to ATF to be traced back to purchasers and sellers in the United States, and he urged the Mexican government to provide ATF with fuller access to these weapons.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/30/kerry-mexico-failed-state/

    So only 1/4 weapons seized were traced. What about the other 3/4? Selectively tracing guns to make your gun ban argument?

    90% of the 25% or 22.5% of weapons seized were traced to the US. Not 90% of the total.

    NOW THINK ABOUT THIS:

    Why would Mexico have to import guns from the US, when they import all their drugs (which are then sent to the US) from South America and Asia?

  172. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    Because Libs like to lie.

  173. Boxlock20
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    “Because Libs like to lie.”—Anti

    AMEN!

  174. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:54 pm | Permalink

    Nobody can substantiate claims that U.S. guns cross the border “by the thousands” or “account for 95% of weapons used by Mexican drug gangs.” Because it’s not true.

    Replying to Feinstein in subcommittee hearings last week, William Hoover, assistant director of field operations at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, said, “The investigations we have, that we see, for firearms flowing across the border don’t show us individuals taking thousands of guns a day or at a time flowing into Mexico.”

    Yet reporter after politician after news anchor parrot the lie as readily as high schoolers gossip, and with equal disregard for truth.

    That’s how gun abolitionists claim Mexican gun laws are so strict that our “weak laws” (read: freedoms) are to blame for “fueling the violence” in Mexico.

    Well, to believe that:

    • You have to believe these butchers and beheaders break every Mexican law they want except Mexican gun laws, which they honor — while they break America gun laws.

    • You have to believe that Mexico’s drug cartels, which possess the wealth and armies of nations, prefer American semiauto target and hunting rifles over fully automatic machine guns and any other military arms they want to crush opposition.

    • You have to believe Mexican drug lords — who make Forbes magazine’s list of billionaires — don’t get large lots of weaponry on the transnational black market but instead choose to trifle with paperwork at U.S. gun stores.

    • You have to believe that narco-terrorists who buy fragmentation grenades, grenade launchers, explosives, body armor, biometric security equipment, infrared surveillance technology and intelligence-grade reconnaissance gear will salute and obey a new American gun law — if only we’d pass one.

    Get real, get tough, but get away from our rights

    Everything Mexico’s murderous thugs are doing is already illegal. At issue is not the absence of law, but the absence of political will to enforce the laws that both nations already possess.

    Even Immigration and Customs Enforcement said, “We have the laws we need. We just need to more effectively enforce them.”

    Those that make possible Mexico’s colossal corruption wear the garb of not only drug lords and gun runners, but also of too many city mayors and police chiefs, state bureaucrats and military officers.

    A $40 billion criminal enterprise could not exist without the complicity of these powerful co-conspirators. And these cartels are being abetted by American media and politicians who blame our freedoms for it.

    We should seal the border. Punish the guilty. And use existing gun and drug laws against violent drug syndicates here and in Mexico.

    But leave American freedoms alone.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/03/26/lapierre.guns.mexico/

  175. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    Madness.

    When did journalist stop doing their job?

    Like when some politician says, “90% of the guns are coming from the US into Mexico.”

    Were is the reporter to say, “Really, can you back that up with some facts? Our research proves different results.”

  176. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    You and I Can’t Buy the Guns Mexican Cartels Own
    The Administration is Not Dealing Straight With Us on Mexico’s Gun Problem

    Ralph Weller
    March 1 2009

    Let’s set things straight right up front. Yes, some guns are being smuggled into Mexico from the U.S. Most are handguns. But, handguns are being illegally trafficked from state to state and from the U.S. to Canada. It should come as no surprise that guns are smuggled into Mexico. But, the problem being portrayed by the U.S. media and our government is not as it seems. You see, Mexico doesn’t allow ownership of most firearms, so ordinary Mexican people seeking self-protection will find a way to get them into Mexico. As for the drug cartels operating in the border towns along the U.S., they have other sources for their weapons and have become the prime supplier within Mexico.

    I worked in Mexico in a border town for about five years. It was far enough from San Diego County in the Sonora Desert of Mexico that commuting several hundred miles daily was impossible. So, for a few years I lived in the city and commuted home periodically on some weekends. As crime grew out of control, I eventually moved into a place on the U.S. side and commuted daily in and out of Mexico for my own safety.

    I stayed in Mexico for a Mexican holiday my first year. I don’t recall the holiday. Normally, I would leave Mexico for a holiday, but it was in the middle of the week and one day was not long enough to come home. All I know is that on that particular Mexican holiday, Mexicans love to fire guns into the air. That evening as I sat on the balcony of my hotel, the gun fire that erupted in celebration was quite unbelievable. It was so intense I backed off the balcony and watched the festivities from a couple three feet in the room. We’re talking war-like firing of weapons, it was that intense.

    As I listened that night to the gun fire, I was somewhat shocked at the amount of fully automatic gun fire. It wasn’t sporadic. It was continuous throughout the city. For a country that bans guns I thought, how in the world did they get their hands on all these full-auto weapons? Clearly what sounded like M16 fire was prolific along with 7.62 x 39 AK autos with a smattering of smaller caliber full-autos, most likely 9mm. Gun fire can be heard in most American cities on New Years, but I’ve never heard full-auto weapons being fired, at least not in the San Diego area.

    The next day I went into work and sat down with a trusted senior Mexican manager. I looked at him and said, “I thought guns were illegal in Mexico.” He chuckled and said, “So you stayed in town last night?” As the conversation progressed, it became clear that guns are as common in Mexico as tamales at Christmas. Everyone he knows, including himself, own at least one gun. And, it matters not whether it’s a semi-auto or fully automatic, they’re all illegal, so why stop with semi-autos? Though clearly illegal in the states in most instances, a lot of Mexicans have more firepower in terms of military weapons than we can only dream of owning here.

    As time went on, parties in the city at middle class Mexican homes become a way of life. Most Mexican managers in the plant knew I was a gun wonk. As it turns out, they couldn’t wait to invite me over to their place on a Friday night to show me their collection. Semi-autos, some very high-end Sigs and other European handguns were not uncommon along with piles of old revolvers. I thought I had seen everything in the states, but in Mexico it’s not uncommon for people to own full-auto military rifles. Everything from an M16, UZI machine pistols and the most popular, select-fire AK47 military rifles. These are not the so-called “assault weapons” you can buy at the local gun shop in the U.S., but full select-fire military-issue rifles. Now, I know you want to know and are dying to ask; Did I see any U.S. military-issue weapons stolen from the U.S. military? Not a single one was marked with U.S. military markings. Everything was marked with additional foreign markings on the receiver, including M16 rifles, or they had nothing at all. I saw firearms manufactured in Europe, China, Russia and South America along with U.S. manufactured weapons. I saw rifles that looked familiar with no place of manufacture, no serial number or manufacturer’s logo. The information was not removed, it was never there to begin with. I can only assume they came from illegal arms manufacturers in India or Pakistan that produce copies of weapons. It was obvious that none of these firearms came from a U.S. gun shop in Tucson or San Diego. You couldn’t buy them from a gun shop in the states if you tried.

    It seems Mexicans have a rich heritage of firearms ownership prior to the ban in 1968. Despite the laws against owning them, they ignore it. Most Mexicans will say they need it for personal protection of themselves and their family. The other reason is they don’t trust the government or local law enforcement. If they have to use it in their home for self-defense, whether they end up in jail is all dependent on how much money they can come up with, or who they know in the government. It also depends on who they shoot. But, given the alternative with high crime rates, most middle class Mexicans willingly and without reservations take the risk. Despite being able to own .22 caliber pistols or rifles, Mexican law requires them to be stored at an approved firing range. Where’s the firing range I asked many times? No one knew of one. Where’s the gun stores in town to buy legal guns? Gun stores? No one ever recalled seeing one anywhere in Mexico, let alone their city. I’m sure somewhere, maybe in Mexico City you might be able to buy a gun, but not in this city of almost 1.5 million residents. And the gun traffickers know it.

    Where do ordinary Mexicans get their weapons? Most buy them from a ‘friend’ or a friend of a friend or cousin or uncle. Where the friend gets them is not talked about. But, it seems that drug cartels in Mexico are heavily involved in gun trafficking of military weapons and related hardware. And, who are these ordinary Mexicans? They range from people who work in factories as managers and senior managers, government workers, doctors, dentists and anyone with the financial means to buy a firearm. I even ran into a couple of government bureaucrats, one a lawyer for the federal government who owns firearms. He confirmed that people he knew in the government, some very highly ranked bureaucrats and politicians all own illegal firearms. The other works for the Mexican equivalent of the IRS. It’s a way of life in Mexico. It seemed to me that you aren’t in the ‘in-crowd’ in Mexico unless you own at least one firearm. I was amazed at the whole thing after believing for years that gun ownership in Mexico was non-existent. That is hardly the case.

    All this flies in the face of news articles published by the U.S. media in the last week or two. Mexico’s gun problems are a direct result of gun runners buying “assault weapons” in the U.S. and taking them into Mexico to arm drug cartels, says the U.S. media and government. That is a bunch of government and media nonsense. The cartels aren’t arming themselves from U.S. gun stores with semi-auto AR15 and AK47 rifles. They’ve moved on up. Not to completely dismiss arms moving into Mexico from the U.S., but it is not as it seems when the U.S. media tells the story. The firearms moving across the border are semi-auto rifles and handguns sold to middle class or wealthy Mexicans seeking personal protection from criminals that have no connections in Mexico with gun runners. For the most part the wealthy in Mexico are targets of criminal elements, so they have no intention of connecting up with them to buy a self-defense firearm. You’re better off buying a weapon from someone within the Mexican government than buying it from the criminal element, namely a drug cartel.

    Cartels buy their arms from countries around the world, most any place where military weapons can be purchased on the black market, or from countries wishing to destabilize North America. They arm themselves from a worldwide black market of full auto military weapons including grenades, land mines and RPGs. They also “procure” their weapons from the less than savory from within the Mexican military.

    The drug cartels can easily afford to fly their weaponry into Mexico using their own fleet of aircraft on to remote airfields, or land them on remote Mexican shores from their fleet of vessels. They do it with drugs all of the time. Drug cartels buying semi-auto AR15 or AK rifles from U.S. gun dealers is viewed as a joke by Mexico’s drug cartel, most Mexicans, and unfortunately by the Mexican government. The only people fooled by all the political rhetoric are Americans listening to the likes of Attorney General Eric Holder and other anti-gun politicians.

    Mexico has a gun problem, just like they have a drug problem and both the U.S. and Mexican governments are trying to place the blame on U.S. gun owners. U.S. gun owners aren’t the problem. Mexico is the problem. The government is corrupt from the lowest level law enforcement officer shaking down American tourists for traffic violations, to officials and politicians highly placed within the Mexican government, including elements within the military. Everyone knows it. Everyone in Mexico knows it. Every law enforcement official in the U.S. knows it, and everyone in our government knows it. And anyone who has worked for any length of time within border cities and lived in the local community knows it. This is taking a Mexican problem, blaming the U.S. by turning it into a crisis in order further an agenda, and Eric Holder and President Obama knows it and they are taking advantage of it.

    The next time you see a news report of illegal full-auto weapons and grenades being found here in the U.S., you know where they came from. It wasn’t from a gun store in Tucson or Phoenix. The administration is right that gun trafficking along the U.S./Mexico border is a problem. Not only do we have drugs and illegal aliens coming in our southern border, but we also have military arms and explosives coming into our country illegally as well. That’s the issue and our government is being disingenuous in its argument.

    This AP news report published today is typical of what is going on. It is disgustingly biased and flat wrong: AP report for Detroit Free Press

    Don’t believe me and what I say? See what the Latin American Herald is saying about a recent arrest of cartel members and their weaponry in Mexico. No, the items listed weren’t purchased at a gun store in Phoenix or Tucson. Grenades and RPGs are illegal in the U.S.: LAH Story

    GunNewsDaily authorizes the distribution of this commentary providing that GunNewsDaily.com is recognized as the originating source.

  177. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:01 pm | Permalink
    Madness.

    When did journalist stop doing their job?

    Like when some politician says, “90% of the guns are coming from the US into Mexico.”

    Were is the reporter to say, “Really, can you back that up with some facts? Our research proves different results.”
    ===============================================

    The 90% figure is being quoted by all the media WITHOUT any research being done.

    No different from any other news ’story’ they print, they simply take the AP feed verbatim and regurtitate it.

  178. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    A Key Quote that may signal bad news in the USA if guns are banned – Since they are all illegal, and Americans will continue to own guns, then why not have a FULLY AUTOMATIC firearm, instead of the semi-automatic firearms that are legal here now?

    “As the conversation progressed, it became clear that guns are as common in Mexico as tamales at Christmas. Everyone he knows, including himself, own at least one gun. And, it matters not whether it’s a semi-auto or fully automatic, they’re all illegal, so why stop with semi-autos? Though clearly illegal in the states in most instances, a lot of Mexicans have more firepower in terms of military weapons than we can only dream of owning here.”

  179. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    ConDuct-Yuk.

  180. outlander
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    Conduit: What Chris Dodd and Barney Frank said when asked about their parts in the financial scandals.

  181. Regular
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

    Haven’t seen any photos of the assault rifles used by Mexican drug dealers. I would think they would use a version of the AK-47, which is cheaper and available in South America.

    http://world.guns.ru/assault/akm_cut.jpg

  182. Nathaniel
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    Well, just reviewed the news video on the Nursing home shooting.

    Guess what was posted at the door?

    A no gun sign!

    I guess the shooter must have missed that sign because we all know that posting a no gun sign will prevent those bad people from taking a gun in.

  183. Regular
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    conSPIRE – What Pelosi does in her secret meetings not open to Republicans.

  184. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    Nathaniel
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:37 pm | Permalink
    Well, just reviewed the news video on the Nursing home shooting.

    Guess what was posted at the door?

    A no gun sign!

    I guess the shooter must have missed that sign because we all know that posting a no gun sign will prevent those bad people from taking a gun in.

    ============================================

    What? Your kidding me!

    Those signs don’t work?

    Oh Nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

  185. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    Did the guy have a cc license, or do you even need one there?

  186. Nathaniel
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:50 pm | Permalink

    Phantom,

    You do need to have one. It is a shall issue state. And no, I don’t believe he had one. If he did the liberal anti-gun groups would have been screaming their heads off and it would have been championed by the media for weeks…

  187. brian_nuevo
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    “JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:36 pm | Permalink
    Obama’s stock market is now below 7,500.”

    Was it “Obama’s stock market” last week when it was up to nearly 8000? Will it be “Obama’s stock market” a year from now when it is around 9000?

    And when did it become the government’s job to keep the stock market ‘up’?

    What happened to informed investors who knew that sometimes the market is up and sometimes the market is down, but regardless of that movement, their decisions about where to invest their money were their own. Why do so many people now think it is the government’s role to make decisions that will move the market price of equity (and debt) investments higher?

  188. outlander
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    convocation: Certainly not a neighborhood organizer.

  189. brian_nuevo
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    “Nathaniel
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:50 pm | Permalink
    …it would have been championed by the media for weeks…”

    Guns are scary to many people. Scary stuff sells newspapers and tv adspace.

  190. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:55 pm | Permalink

    Looks like a deer rifle or shotgun is to blame for the nursing home shooting.

    Need to ban deer rifles or shotguns.

    http://tinyurl.com/cj86yg

    McKenzie said he was armed with more than one weapon, and witnesses said he was shooting a “deer gun.” Police recovered a camouflaged-colored rifle or shotgun from the home’s parking lot, where at least two cars had their windows shattered, apparently by gunfire.

  191. outlander
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    Converge: Politically, where a moderate stands when he realizes that he can no longer stomach liberal hypocrisy.

  192. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    The police officer was able to use his HANDGUN to defend himself and others.

    Huh, a HANDGUN was used for self-defense.

    http://tinyurl.com/cj86yg

    “Stewart wounded Garner three times in the leg as they traded gunfire in a hallway of the 110-bed facility, McKenzie said. The single shot Garner fired from his .40-caliber service pistol hit Stewart in the chest.”

  193. outlander
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Contact: A personal quality of the Gipper.

  194. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    Wait a minute…

    Why are we responsible for the failings of Mexico?

    Fuq em’!

  195. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    Should ban knives too:

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25264871-2703,00.html

    Boston man Kerby Revelus kills his sisters in knife rampage

    BOSTON, Massachusetts: A man on a rampage fatally stabbed his 17-year-old sister, decapitated his five-year-old sister in front of a police officer and then headed toward his nine-year-old sister with a knife in his hand before officers shot him amid what the local police chief described as “a killing field”.

  196. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    Fuq em’!
    ==================

    Is that Spanish?

  197. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    Is that Spanish?
    ==============

    No, Blogish.

  198. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    Police question man in stabbing of sister

    Ogden police are questioning a man they say stabbed his developmentally disabled sister repeatedly Sunday morning as she ate breakfast at their parents’ home.

    Ogden Police Lt. Mike Ashment said police responded to a call from the 800 block of 16th Street shortly after 8 a.m. Sunday. Ashment said a 23-year-old woman was seated at a table eating breakfast when, according to the victim, her 30-year-old brother came up behind her and stabbed her eight-10 times in the neck and shoulder area. The woman was transported to McKay-Dee Hospital Center where she was treated and released with wounds that were not life-threatening.

    http://deseretnews.com/article/705294039/Police-question-man-in-stabbing.html

    The mere presence of a knife can make good people turn bad.

    They need to ban knives.

  199. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    What’s up with all the stabbings recently?

    We need an Assault Knife Ban!

    http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2009/03/luis_lopez_hernandez_22_is_vic.html

    Luis Lopez Hernandez, 22, is victim of fatal stabbing outside My Place Bar
    by John Agar | The Grand Rapids Press
    Monday March 30, 2009, 11:16 AM

    GRAND RAPIDS — Police this morning are interviewing those believed to be in a fight that left a 22-year-old Grand Rapids man dead of stab injuries.

    Luis Lopez Hernandez, 22, of Grand Rapids, was killed, and two others injured, in the fight outside of My Place Bar, 1410 S. Division Ave.

    Police responded to a 2:06 a.m. report of a fight with injuries at South Division and Fair Street. Police found one of the stabbed man near the intersection, with Hernandez and another man inside a car parked on Fair Street.

    Witnesses told police that the victims and assailants were arguing inside the bar before they were told to leave. Once outside, the fight started, with the victims being stabbed. The assailant or assailants fled the scene in a dark Ford Expedition, police said.

  200. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    Congress needs to act immediately to ban knives before more people are stabbed!

    (And the Criminal is still on the loose! How can people defend themselves?)

    http://www.star-telegram.com/news/story/1287034.html

    Man fatally stabbed outside Fort Worth bar

    FORT WORTH — A 30-year-old man was fatally stabbed early this morning in an altercation outside a south Fort Worth bar.

    Homicide Detective Frank Serra said the stabbing occurred about 2:15 a.m. in the parking lot of La Estrellita, 3912 Hemphill St.

    The victim, whose identity was not immediately released, was taken to John Peter Smith Hospital, where he was pronounced dead about 3 a.m. Investigators are still trying to identify a suspect.

    Witnesses reported that the alteration may have stemmed from an argument over a woman, Serra said.

    “It’s possible that the suspect and the victim may have had words inside of the bar prior to closing time,” Serra said.

    Serra said police are still investigating whether others were involved.

    Anyone with information about the case is asked to call Serra at 817-392-4330 or Crime Stoppers at 817-469-TIPS.

  201. brian_nuevo
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    JimJohnson,
    Don’t forget about screwdrivers (right here in Wichita too!)
    http://www.kansas.com/news/breaking/story/747238.html

    It may be difficult for mechanics if we ban screwdrivers, but if it saves one life…..

  202. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    Gosh another one!

    Man arrested in fatal stabbing in Jonesboro

    http://www.wxvt.com/Global/story.asp?S=10095517&nav=menu1344_2

    Associated Press – March 30, 2009 1:44 PM ET

    JONESBORO, Ark. (AP) – Authorities in Jonesboro have charged a 28-year-old man in the stabbing death of another man.

    James Ted Hall Jr. is charged with first-degree murder for the death early Sunday. Police had responded to a 1 a.m. call about a disturbance involving weapons and found the victim stabbed in the chest. He was pronounced dead at a hospital a short time later.

  203. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    Wisconsin teen arrested in foster mother’s stabbing

    HOWARD, Wis. — Authorities took a 17-year-old Howard male into custody after he allegedly stabbed his foster mother several times Sunday night, according to the Brown County Sheriff’s Department.

    Lt. Brian Westphal of the sheriff’s department said authorities were called at about 6:53 p.m. to the home in the 1100 block of Rockwell Road.

    The woman was taken to a local hospital for treatment. Westphal didn’t immediately know the age of the woman , which hospital she was taken to, or the seriousness of her injuries.

    http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=571454&catid=14

    Now here’s a nice sweet innocent 17-year old boy, who turned bad when there was a knife present.

    I’m tellin ya, the mere presence of a knife can cause people to be hurt or even killed.

  204. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    I’ve heard rope can kill as well….

    I won’t even get close to one.

  205. Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    In 2005, 30,694 people in the United States died from firearm-related deaths – 12,352 were murdered; 17,002 killed themselves; 789 were accidents; 330 died by police intervention, and in 221, the intent was unknown. 6 In comparison, 33,651 Americans were killed in the Korean War and 58,193 Americans were killed in the Vietnam War.

    An additional 71,417 people were shot and survived their injuries — 52,748 people injured in an attack; 3,190 people injured in a suicide attempt; 14,678 people shot accidentally, and 801 people shot in a police intervention.

    Screw drivers? Huh?

    What time does your armed rebellion start, children?

  206. Nathaniel
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    Oh my…

    If the bed wetting liberals only knew how many knives I own!

    *GASP*

    And these are “combat” knives too.

  207. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    People are in Fear of Knives! Ban them!

    http://wcbstv.com/topstories/stabbing.nightclub.chelsea.2.970693.html

    NYPD Arrests 2 After Chelsea Nightclub Stabbing Reporting
    Deborah Garcia NEW YORK (CBS) ?

    A wild stabbing spree forces partiers inside a popular Manhattan nightclub to run for cover.

    When it was all over, four people were hospitalized and two men were in custody.

    It began as a night of fun and dancing, but ended in bloodshed.

    “When I turned around, I saw all the people coming out of the club,” a witness said.

    Club-goers were rushing out of Promenade on 28th Street because a fight broke out inside. The altercation escalated and four men were stabbed, two in the abdomen.

    “It’s shocking and scary,” one neighborhood resident said. “We don’t need this.”

    Chelsea residents that live near the club say there are always fights and problems with the people who hang out at the trendy nightspot.

    Back in October 2007, when the club was called Fusion 215, a man was stabbed in the street in front of the club.

    Now, residents say they fear for their safety.

  208. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    Are bayonet’s safer then knives?

  209. Nathaniel
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    Not when Chas has one…

  210. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    JimJohnson,

    Check out the muders by knife in the U.K.

  211. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    In 2005, 30,694 people in the United States died from firearm-related deaths –
    ===========================

    This should make the Greenie Wienie’s happy.

  212. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    Screw drivers are safe as long as you can only buy one per month.

  213. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:30 pm | Permalink
    In 2005, 30,694 people in the United States died from firearm-related deaths –
    ===========================

    This should make the Greenie Wienie’s happy.
    ================

    Maybe not, that’s only 0.0001% of the USA population.

  214. Regular
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    I thought bay-o-nets were those things used when ya went fishies in coves?

  215. brian_nuevo
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    What do these people think happened before there were guns?
    Do those who want to ban guns think violence first originated only after the first gun was developed?

    If guns had never been invented, we would be reading news stories about bow and arrow drive-bys, standoff with spears, and sword rampages. And perhaps the occasional catapulting.

    People have been inventing ways to kill each other since the first people existed. Banning guns will do nothing to change that.

  216. Regular
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    I bet a sharpened torx screwdriver would leave a mark.

  217. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    Dueling weed-eaters.

  218. Regular
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    #
    JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    Screw drivers are safe as long as you can only buy one per month.
    ===========================
    Or, drink one per night.

  219. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    brian_nuevo
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 3:51 pm | Permalink
    “JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 2:36 pm | Permalink
    Obama’s stock market is now below 7,500.”

    Was it “Obama’s stock market” last week when it was up to nearly 8000? Will it be “Obama’s stock market” a year from now when it is around 9000?

    And when did it become the government’s job to keep the stock market ‘up’?
    ==============================================

    The Dow last closed above 8,000 on February 10, 2009.

    The Dow last closed above 9,000 on January 6, 2009.

    The Stock Market became Government’s responsibility when Government took over corporate America.

    Think about it: Government now owns these huge corporations. So is it not the role of Government to run these companies successfully, generating a profit, and maximizing return for the owners of the company?

    Or is it OK for Government to run EVERYTHING at a loss?

  220. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:28 pm | Permalink
    JimJohnson,

    Check out the muders by knife in the U.K.
    ———————————————

    Yeah, the weapon itself must not be the main reason why there are murders.

    Did Cain shoot Able?

  221. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    Or was it Abel?

    Whatever….

    (The tombstone faded away years ago.)

  222. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

    ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:37 pm | Permalink
    Dueling weed-eaters.
    ——————————————–

    Dueling d*ldos.

    Never mind, same thing.

  223. Monkeyhawk
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

    If Atheists Ruled the World

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO9IPoAdct8&feature=player_embedded

  224. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:52 pm | Permalink

    Hey, and remember O.J.

    We’ve got to stop the madness!!!

    Sharp steel or ceramic must be banned!!!

    MAK

    Mothers Against Knives

  225. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    We need to work together to build a safer world!

    A world of Nerf!

  226. parkay
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    Hog Futures Hillary repeated her endorsement of unrestricted, taxpayer-funded abortions, as she got an award Friday in Houston, TX from Planned Parenthood, currently under felony criminal prosecution in Overland Park for falsifying state documents to cover up illegal abortions, and continuing a nationwide pattern of criminal behavior now exposed on YouTube in undercover sting videos taken in several states.
    The Margaret Sanger award is named after the racist, eugenicist founder of Planned Parenthood, whose policies of reduction of unwanted minority races through abortion and sterilization are still avidly following in Planned Parenthood abortion mills, many of them located in the black neighborhoods they target for elimination.
    Planned Parenthood is currently building a huge new multi-story late-term abortion mill in Houston, where there is a large black population.
    - – -

    The 40 Days for Life campaign now in progress is temporarily shutting down abortion mills in Austin, TX and Jacksonville, FL.
    I suspect Kansas abortionist quack Tiller doesn’t like it much, neither. If he gets angry enough, he might just try running down another pro-lifer with his Jeep again, I suppose.
    - – -

    Obamanation appears to be readying federal investigations and intimidations of pro-lifers by the Department of Justice, like William the Slick did. Only Obamanation will likely also have under his direct authority Brownshirts – er, a new well-armed civilian security force.
    - – -

    Universities like Notre Dame that plan on giving Obamanation a pro-abortion speaking platform at commencement are sure to be embarrassed by large pro-life demonstrations, complete with large graphic posters.

  227. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

    Chas should write a clergy letter promoting a Nerf World.

  228. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    My Ex could throw a glass faster then Nolan Ryan could pitch a baseball.

    Glass should be banned too.

    And my Ex brother-in-law could spew more gas then a volcano. ( http://search.msn.com/video/results.aspx?q=volcano&docid=722497765536&FORM=VIRE6 )

    Gas should be banned too.

    (Think of the CO2 coming from that one volcano!)

  229. brian_nuevo
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    “JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    Think about it: Government now owns these huge corporations. So is it not the role of Government to run these companies successfully, generating a profit, and maximizing return for the owners of the company?”

    The government owns shares in companies. Do shareholders run companies? No. Shareholders elect a board. The board appoints management. Management runs companies. Management and the Board have a fiduciary duty to maximize shareholder value. Generally, that is taken to mean value over the long-term.

    Since the government likes to micromanage things it is involved in, I am sure they will do more that what I just mentioned. However, running a profitable business and maximizing return to the owners of the company does not necessarily mean doing things that will make the price of the stock higher this week. It means making strategic, long-term decisions that will make the company profitable in the future.

    And that is a handfull of businesses we are talking about, not the entire stock market. Again, back to my as of yet unanswered questions… (http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/03/open-thread-330-2/comment-page-5/#comment-546245)

  230. JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:56 pm | Permalink
    Chas should write a clergy letter promoting a Nerf World.
    ======================

    I thought he said he wasn’t clergy?

  231. brian_nuevo
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    “ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:54 pm | Permalink
    We need to work together to build a safer world!

    A world of Nerf!”

    LMFAO!!!

  232. Raptor
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    this is weird…brian wrote:

    “And when did it become the government’s job to keep the stock market ‘up’? ”

    Huh? Isn’t that what libs have been championing all the time? Government run housing. Government run health care. Government run day care. Government mandated pay scales. Government run banks. Government run auto industry.

    Did I miss something?

  233. brian_nuevo
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    “Raptor
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    Did I miss something?”

    Apparently you mistakenly thought I was a liberal.

  234. Regular
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    Pakistani’s complain of attack by U.S. Forces

    In northern Pakistan, evidently a ram-IT2YA-1 radio guided missile went astray and landed in a small village.

    The rocket was loaded with n.e.r.f ‘bomblets’ and sprayed the entire village.

    Women and children were hit, along with several camels and a few goats.

    The village leader was outraged and quoted as saying,

    “We do not deserved to be nerfed! My mother-in-law was bending over in the poppy field when the attack occurred. The doctor say it will be weeks before the bomblets can be extracted because of their ramming force! Kill the great satan Americans. Allah Akbar!”

  235. Posted March 30, 2009 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    well-armed civilian security force.

    hee hee now they sneak “well armed” into it!!! Liars

  236. Raptor
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    damn…my apologies, Brian. Been awake tooo long today or something..

  237. Regular
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    Mayor Carl Brewer to Take on the Harlem Globetrotters

    Date: March 30, 2009
    Contact: Glynnis Richard, Harlem Globetrotters
    E-mail: Richard@harlemglobetrotters.com
    Phone: Work: (602) 258-0000; Cell (602) 369-1558

    Mayor Brewer to join the opposing Washington Generals Team against the Wizards of the Hardwood

    WHO:
    Mayor of Wichita, Carl Brewer

    WHAT:
    When the Harlem Globetrotters bring their 2009 “Spinning the Globe” World Tour to the Charles Koch Arena on March 31, Mayor Carl Brewer, along with his new team members the always optimistic Washington Generals, will attempt to clinch a long awaited victory over the World Famous Harlem Globetrotters.

    WHEN:
    Tuesday, March 31, 2009 – 7:00 p.m.

    WHERE:
    Charles Koch Arena at Wichita State University
    1845 Fairmount Street
    Wichita, Kan. 67260

    MEDIA:
    Media are invited to cover event. Please confirm attendance with Glynnis Richard by email.

    OTHER:
    Sponsored by Campbell Soup Company, IHOP, Spalding, and America’s Best Contacts and Eyeglasses, the Harlem Globetrotters will take the court on Tuesday, March 31, 2009 at 7:00 p.m. Tickets start at $17.00 and are available at the Charles Koch Arena at Wichita State University box office and http://www.goshockers.com/

  238. BlueJay
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 5:36 pm | Permalink

    Con template- Republican creative thinking.

    con vent- day time on the WE Blog when everyone else is working for a living.

    conning tower- podium with Republican at the mike.

    Okie never came back with a link for that blog with the Democrats who are unhappy with Obama?

    Color her con strained-when a con tries to convince themselves that they are right even when the evidence is against them.

  239. Boxlock20
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 5:37 pm | Permalink

    “I thought he said he wasn’t clergy?”—JimJ

    He isn’t, I read his post. Now I don’t need to be so hard on him for misrepresenting himself.
    As if we didn’t already know.

  240. brian_nuevo
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    “Raptor
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 5:15 pm | Permalink
    damn…my apologies, Brian. Been awake tooo long today or something..”

    easy mistake. sometimes my viewpoints are liberal, but when it comes to fiscal policy (and guns), I am more conservative than most republicans. mostly.

  241. brian_nuevo
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

    I am almost guaranteed never to hold elected office – conservative fiscal views will keep many liberal Dems away and liberal social views will keep many Repubs away.

  242. Raptor
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    I hear you, and I would vote for you. Thanks for your response…didn’t mean to offend!!

  243. brian_nuevo
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    no offense taken :)

  244. sursum
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    DavidB: Do we need another rebellion? I read the other day on these threads that the British Parlaiment passed as Act creating the Dominon of Canada in 1867.PASSED AND ACT….NO REBELLION OR NOTHING? The number of people killed there in 2007 by guns was about 120 in a population of 33 millon, who have about the same % of households with guns as the US. Best head north and talk them about the values of a good rebellion, seems they missed something on the road to bloodshed.

  245. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 6:22 pm | Permalink

    #
    JimJohnson
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 4:56 pm | Permalink
    Chas should write a clergy letter promoting a Nerf World.
    ======================

    I thought he said he wasn’t clergy?
    —————————-

    Somehow I don’t see him saying something like that, unless Pastor and Clergy are different.
    I don’t know.

  246. Posted March 30, 2009 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

    What is all this hysteria? Who is banning guns? Take your meds…..

  247. Posted March 30, 2009 at 7:01 pm | Permalink

    Just because one of your fellow law-abiding gun enthusiasts goes off and does a little mass-murder.. no one is going to do anything… relax…..

  248. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 7:22 pm | Permalink

    Just because one of your fellow law-abiding gun enthusiasts goes off and does a little mass-murder.
    =======================

    If he WAS law-abiding, he wouldn’t have committed mass-murder.

  249. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    ConTest-Failed, Unsatisfacory.

  250. Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    Clergy are Pastors… now go shill somewhere else, Goons!!! Many people here have had enough of the arm flailing gun nuts…

  251. Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:03 pm | Permalink

    Boxlock20
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 5:37 pm | Permalink
    “I thought he said he wasn’t clergy?”—JimJ

    He isn’t, I read his post. Now I don’t need to be so hard on him for misrepresenting himself.
    As if we didn’t already know.
    =================================================

    Boxorox LIES again… Specifically what post does your warped mind think you read?? Box must be in early stages of Alzheimers!!

  252. Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:08 pm | Permalink

    Really, I am serious.

    We, as Americans, just simply take mass-murder as another minor news event. It doesn’t matter much whether it is 8, 10, 11 killed in a murder spree in a home for little old ladies or liberal church, we just really just take it as part of the price we pay for being proud, free and gun-toting.

    We used to pay a little more attention to it, but you guys cry so much, and buy off so many politicians, we just accept it now…

    After all, the could have gone in with a bug rock and killed 11, and we don’t want to outlaw rocks! Then only outlaws would have stones!

    Stock up on ammo now… ya never know when ya may have to go get even…

  253. ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    Chas
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    Clergy are Pastors… now go shill somewhere else, Goons!!!
    =================

    Hey Jacka$$, I was being honest..I didn’t know the difference!

  254. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    Cheney trying to undermine Obama with Israel,before he took office is not an American act. The Dixie chicks catch hell for bad mouthing bush in London, but Cheney gets a pass?

  255. Phantom
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:23 pm | Permalink

    The Repubs are threatening to try and hold up the conclusion of the Minnessota senatorial race for years in the courts. Have these people no shame or patriotism?

  256. Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    ANTI
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:15 pm | Permalink
    Chas
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    Clergy are Pastors… now go shill somewhere else, Goons!!!
    =================

    Hey Jacka$$, I was being honest..I didn’t know the difference!
    ==========================================

    Guess that only proves how stupid you really are… eh??? ID 10 T

  257. cosmos_originally
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    Chas,

    Did someone else post using your nic on yesterdays ‘Open’, 9:19 pm? Your nic is linked to a duckfood site.

  258. Posted March 30, 2009 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    Cosmos, wasnt mine… My computer was down last nite… Guess we got another HACKER at work, huh??

  259. Boxlock20
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    “Boxorox LIES again… Specifically what post does your warped mind think you read?? Box must be in early stages of Alzheimers!!”—the once faux preacher, but now comes clean

    Chas
    Posted March 29, 2009 at 9:19 pm |
    “I am not a pastor.”

    JimJohnson
    Posted March 29, 2009 at 9:21 pm
    “Thanks Chas for finally admitting that.
    Big surprise!”

    I think it’s great Chas that in a moment of fatigue or guilt you finally come clean and tell the truth. It wasn’t has if everyone didn’t know the truth anyway as you were a TERRIBLE faux preacher.
    Glad you decided to give up the poor charade.

  260. Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    Cosmos, That post from last nite was a total HACKER job… I can only hope that the Editors trace down the culprit… Then we can ALL call Boxlicker a DAMNED LIAR!!!

    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/03/open-thread-329-2/#comment-545759

    ONE MORE TIME, BOXIE…. THAT POST WAS NOT MINE… NOW, YOU WANT TO KNOCK IT OFF, OR EXPLAIN YOUR BOXOLIES TO THE EDITORS???

  261. Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:08 pm | Permalink

    A reminder, folks… In order to do that little HACKER BS, the hacker has to know another poster’s email address, AND password…

    So, let’s see… who has a fetish on this Blog with Ducks??? ROFL!!!

  262. Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    “I think it’s great Chas that in a moment of fatigue or guilt you finally come clean and tell the truth. It wasn’t has if everyone didn’t know the truth anyway as you were a TERRIBLE faux preacher. Glad you decided to give up the poor charade.” [Boxoroxlies]

    Boxie, either YOU or some other dumba$$ faked that post… I dont know who it was… But the Editors will take appropriate actions… I am sure of that!!

  263. Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    In less than a month, 22 dead from mass-murders.. yawn…

  264. Boxlock20
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    Well, I’m out of here, I have some reading to do and refreshing sleep as well to get.
    Chas, I know you’ll sleep better tonight now that this whole ugly faux preacher thing is behind you.
    Sleep tight.

  265. BlueJay
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:42 pm | Permalink

    Well I’ll tell you what I’m going to do.

    I’m going to write to the editors.

    I’ve never done that before. But it is time. It is clear that Chas’s nic was hijacked and it is reasonably evident that “Boxlock20″ was complicit in it.

    Con posters here know, I have never asked for a poster to be banned.

    I will be asking the editors who I have personally met to ban the IP of “Boxlock20″ pending investigation my charge that he hijacked a nic.

  266. Boxlock20
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:50 pm | Permalink

    Oh boy!!! Am I in trouble now!!!
    BlowJ has a feather up his butt, and does that ever mean trouble. ‘Shake and quiver’!
    Lets all watch him try and pick it out without getting his fingers soiled.
    I almost can’t wait for this fun to begin.
    BlowJ, don’t make a bigger fool of yourself than you already are.

  267. BlueJay
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 10:53 pm | Permalink

    Bring it Bawks.

    I know the editors. Do you?

    How much do we really know about you?

    NO one has met you.

    You said you were going to bed. But you were waiting a response.

    Well here it is.

  268. BlueJay
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:05 pm | Permalink

    While I have never contacted the editors.

    I DO know those who have. I also know those in contact with the webmaster.

    I think an investigation into “Boxlock20″ is in order and I will call for it.

    I wonder who I will find?

  269. cosmos_originally
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:07 pm | Permalink

    It isn’t worth wasting much time on bigotbawks. He even seems to believe that economists, engineers, and TV weather people are “real scientists”.

  270. Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:08 pm | Permalink

    Jay, just let the editors handle it… they wont tell you who they find anyway…

  271. cosmos_originally
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:15 pm | Permalink

    bigotbawks even counted Lord Monckton as a ‘REAL SCIENTIST’.

    LOL!

    Rep. Shimkus: Too LITTLE Global Warming Pollution?
    http://blogs.nwf.org/arctic_promise/2009/03/rep-shimkus-too-little-global-warming-pollution.html

  272. Boxlock20
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:15 pm | Permalink

    ” How much do we really know about you?
    NO one has met you.”—BlowJ

    ‘Who was that masked man…….’?
    You seem to have a very unhealthy obsession with knowing me….what’s with that? What is lacking in you that you feel you need to “know” a blogger other than through blogging?

    And, I will go to bed when I decide, you really don’t need to be concerned about that too much, but again you seem to have this strange obsession.
    If you REALLY NEED TO KNOW, I left the computer running and the wife said she didn’t want it so it needs turning off.

    But I think an “investigation” is in order too. Are you sure the Eagle is up to it alone? Maybe a Pinkerton guy, ya…that’s it, a Pinkerton guy, get one.
    Ya know BlowJ, I think you need to go to bed before you make a bigger fool of yourself than you already have.
    Now, nighty night.

  273. BlueJay
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:21 pm | Permalink

    “And, I will go to bed when I decide,”

    You seem to have decided some time ago.

    Or rather, I decided for you.

    The truth will out “Boxlock20″. I aint afraid of it.

    Are you?

  274. brokebackmtn
    Posted March 30, 2009 at 11:57 pm | Permalink

    The truth concerning the grandparent, AKA, Boxlock20, lies in photographic evidence that he is a fudgepacking expert. He claims to be a straight god-fear christian, but the incontravertable proof suggests otherwise. Check out the evidence:

    http://boxlockisaverynellyfag.org

    Incidentily, Fred Phelps approves this message.

  275. Regular
    Posted March 31, 2009 at 12:32 am | Permalink

    Incidentily

    Some one spells as bad as BlueJay. Imagine that…

  276. brokebackmtn
    Posted March 31, 2009 at 12:46 am | Permalink

    Is it possible the never married James McCluer has something to hide? Check it out:

    http://jamesmccluerfuquesallmalecomers.com

    He said he was a Baptist, too. Sad…

  277. BlueJay
    Posted March 31, 2009 at 12:46 am | Permalink

    “Jay, just let the editors handle it”

    Ok. If you want to lay down it is not my business.

  278. Regular
    Posted March 31, 2009 at 12:50 am | Permalink

    Some one is bored.

    Guess they can’t smell that smoke coming from their back. :)

  279. American_Way
    Posted March 31, 2009 at 6:57 am | Permalink

    “And when did it become the government’s job to keep the stock market ‘up’? ”

    And when did it become the government’s job to keep the American Companies which trade on the stock market ‘up’?