Pro-con: Has a link between autism and vaccines been disproved?

autismThe verdict is in. There is no connection between vaccines and autism. And it is time that all of us get our children vaccinated. In 2008, the United States had the highest measles rate in 10 years. An increasing number of parents have been refusing to vaccinate their children against measles because of this fear of a connection. It is not grounded in science. Major medical groups and government research are unanimous: The measles vaccine is safe, and you must get your children vaccinated, because if you don’t, you are endangering my children. You are endangering your neighbor’s children. You are endangering all of our children. This is serious stuff. Measles can be deadly. Parents, please don’t endanger all of our children based on a myth. Medical science has proved there is no link. — Campbell Brown, CNN

It would be a big mistake to take the recent U.S. Court of Claims opinion as the last word on whether vaccination can contribute to the development of regressive autism in some children. The U.S. Court of Claims special masters are hampered from considering evidence that has not yet been published in the medical literature regarding potential associations between vaccines and the development of regressive autism. There is inappropriate pharmaceutical industry influence on which vaccine studies do get published and widely cited in the medical literature. What is thought to be a scientific truth today can be proven false tomorrow. The answers will come when independent researchers, without ties to industry or government agencies concerned about protecting the status quo, can conduct appropriate scientific investigation into why many children who are healthy regress into autism after vaccination. — Barbara Loe Fisher, National Vaccine Information Center president

11 Comments

  1. Political_mama
    Posted February 26, 2009 at 6:39 am | Permalink

    As to whether or not there is a government coverup, of course there is. Think about the fallout of having to admit that the govt mandated all these children to get immunized, only to find that they were at least partially responsible for why the children developed autism. And all the drug companies would go broke immediately. Kids would stop getting immunized which would lead to pandemics. That is what we’re looking at- so no- they can never ever admit fault. Ever.

    1 in 150 children. That’s a whole lot of damages. What they have to do is find a way to stop the disease without it directly linking to their acts, because to have all the cases suddenly stop after action would show a direct causation.

    Keep in mind that NOBODY is saying that immunizations are THE ONE AND ONLY reason that autism is developing, but rather the trigger. Like a kid that eats a lot of sugar and develops diabetes, there are other kids who eat a lot and don’t develop diabetes…but the act of eating too much is the trigger to someone who is predisposed.

    Someone who has PKU can live just fine without the symptoms provided that they stay away from Phenylalanine. I think autism has a genetic predisposition, and then the disease symptoms are triggered by immunizations.

    The government had to admit that they skewed results of their research because they were caught red-handed.

    And if you think they removed all the causative agents, think again. Labs have shown that the new vax’s that have labels of no thimerosal still have the ingredient.

  2. Political_mama
    Posted February 26, 2009 at 6:44 am | Permalink

    Oh and if you think that I don’t want children getting immunized, think again! The more kids immunized keep my kid more safe from those diseases. I have to rely on the others to immunize.
    But at the same time, I don’t want to see someone have to go through what we have. My position is to really really research both sides of the issue yourselves and make an informed decision. Risk vs benefit. Just know the risks. For me and my son, the risk is just too great.

    The are very serious risks independent of the autism debate.

  3. beber
    Posted February 26, 2009 at 7:02 am | Permalink

    You people will cling to the vaccine route until the last kid on earth dies of measels. There is more evidence that autism is caused by bad parenting (T.V. — sugar) than the absolute zero that it is caused by vaccines. But if you can latch on to the drug companies, every parent of an autistic child will automatically have a law suit sugar titty to suck on through the rest of your lives. Hard to give up a dream.

  4. Monkeyhawk
    Posted February 26, 2009 at 7:07 am | Permalink

    “Political_mama” –

    Thanks for your response, yesterthread, to my questions about autism.

    I googled for a while and discovered the name Temple Grandin who’s become one of the world’s most respected experts on animal behavior and perceptions.

    A remarkable person!

  5. HerbertWestIII
    Posted February 26, 2009 at 8:02 am | Permalink

    I have family members with autism. The vary in ages from 5 too 16. That is a 11 year gap between vaccines. I am 42 and recieved the same vacine regiments. So did any one else my age. Not all people who recieved vaccines ended up with autism. I would love to see a cure for autism. I just dont feel the vaccines are to blame. People in their 90’s, recieved the same vaccine regiment newborns get today, as children. Through a process of elimination, vaccines have been found safe. Keep the faith and keep looking. The answer is out there somewhere. Herbert West 3rd, {D], Exploratory Campaign Candidate for a 2010 Bid for Kansas Governor. west.herb@yahoo.com

  6. Monkeyhawk
    Posted February 26, 2009 at 8:12 am | Permalink

    “HerbertWestIII” declares –

    “I am 42 and recieved the same vacine regiments. So did any one else my age. Not all people who recieved vaccines ended up with autism.”

    There ya go, sheriff.

    Now I’m going to have to reconsider my opinion on the issue….

  7. Posted February 26, 2009 at 8:25 am | Permalink

    I still have to wonder … might the key be the Hg used as a preservative? We know that there are HUGE variations in susceptability to environmental toxins like heavy metals. So, a dose that does nothing to one person might poison another.

    Are they still using that preservative? If so – why? I can see using such preservatives in situations where vaccines must be smuggled or otherwise not able to be shipped JIT and kept cold. But do we need such a preservative here?

  8. Maggotpunk
    Posted February 26, 2009 at 8:26 am | Permalink

    Time and time again scientific studies from around the world have debunked the vaccine causes autism myth. The guy who originally promoted a study claiming a cause has admitted he was engaged in fraudulent research and the study has been withdrawn. Yet there are still the true believers, the same sort that say there was no Holocaust, men never landed on the moon, alien spacecraft are at Area 51, and 9/11 was an inside job. There is just no amount of scientific evidence that will convince true believers.

    The added problem is the anti-vaccine crowd us leaving behind a body count. Children have died because the true believers insist that vaccines, which saved millions of lives, is more harmful that the diseases they prevent. Quack cures like chelation therapy, calcium free diets, clay baths, whatever, do harm. It’s no different than the copious amount of quack cures that arose in light of smallpox or TB.

    There’s a sucker born every minute and their champions are indigo child bearing loons like Jenny McCarthy.

  9. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted February 26, 2009 at 8:28 am | Permalink

    “Now I’m going to have to reconsider my opinion on the issue….”

    Please Monkeyhawk, I hope you will reconsider NOT running for governator. I wouldnt want Jeremy Sharp’s tireless efforts to be wasted….

    The crowd chants “we want Monkeyhawk! We want Monkeyhawk!”

  10. Monkeyhawk
    Posted February 26, 2009 at 8:34 am | Permalink

    I am not now, nor have I ever been, a candidate for governor of Kansas.

    If nominated I will not run.

    If elected I will not serve.

    If served… I’ll have a nibble or two.

  11. Jed
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 6:08 pm | Permalink

    Monk,
    “I am not now, nor have I ever been, a candidate for governor of Kansas”

    Then maybe you’ll support my candidacy for governor on an Anarchist ticket.
    My platform:
    Do you really believe that what we have now is better than no government at all?
    My campaign promise:
    If I run for a second term, you should consider it an admission of failure!
    My qualifications:
    What qualifications does it take to turn out the lights and lock the door?