Open thread 2/27

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  1. HLP
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 6:03 am | Permalink

    Obama’s Straw Men
    Why does he routinely ascribe to opponents views they don’t espouse?
    By KARL ROVE
    President Barack Obama reveres Abraham Lincoln. But among the glaring differences between the two men is that Lincoln offered careful, rigorous, sustained arguments to advance his aims and, when disagreeing with political opponents, rarely relied on the lazy rhetorical device of “straw men.” Mr. Obama, on the other hand, routinely ascribes to others views they don’t espouse and says opposition to his policies is grounded in views no one really advocates.
    On Tuesday night, Mr. Obama told Congress and the nation, “I reject the view that . . . says government has no role in laying the foundation for our common prosperity.” Who exactly has that view? Certainly not congressional Republicans, who believe that through reasonable tax cuts, fiscal restraint, and prudent monetary policies government contributes to prosperity.
    Mr. Obama also said that America’s economic difficulties resulted when “regulations were gutted for the sake of a quick profit at the expense of a healthy market.” Who gutted which regulations?
    Perhaps it was President Bill Clinton who, along with then Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, removed restrictions on banks owning insurance companies in 1999. If so, were Mr. Clinton and Mr. Summers (now an Obama adviser) motivated by quick profit, or by the belief that the reform was necessary to modernize our financial industry?
    Perhaps Mr. Obama was talking about George W. Bush. But Mr. Bush spent five years pushing to further regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. He was blocked by Democratic Sen. Chris Dodd and Rep. Barney Frank. Arriving in the Senate in 2005, Mr. Obama backed up Mr. Dodd’s threat to filibuster Mr. Bush’s needed reforms.
    Even in an ostensibly nonpartisan speech marking Lincoln’s 200th birthday, Mr. Obama used a straw-man argument, decrying “a philosophy that says every problem can be solved if only government would step out of the way; that if government were just dismantled, divvied up into tax breaks, and handed out to the wealthiest among us, it would somehow benefit us all. Such knee-jerk disdain for government — this constant rejection of any common endeavor — cannot rebuild our levees or our roads or our bridges.”
    Whose philosophy is this? Many Americans justifiably believe that government is too big and often acts in counterproductive ways. But that’s a far cry from believing that in “every” case government is the problem or that government should be “dismantled” root and branch. Who — other than an anarchist — “constantly rejects any common endeavor” like building levees, roads or bridges?
    During his news conference on Feb. 9, Mr. Obama decried an unnamed faction in the congressional stimulus debate as “a set of folks who — I don’t doubt their sincerity — who just believe that we should do nothing.”
    Who were these sincere do-nothings? Every House Republican voted for an alternative stimulus plan, evidence that they wanted to do something. Every Senate Republican — with the exception of Judd Gregg, who’d just withdrawn his nomination to be Mr. Obama’s Commerce secretary and therefore voted “present” — voted for alternative stimulus proposals.
    Then there’s Mr. Obama’s description of the Bush-era tax cuts. “A surplus became an excuse to transfer wealth to the wealthy,” he explained in his Tuesday speech, after earlier saying, “tax cuts alone can’t solve all of our economic problems — especially tax cuts that are targeted to the wealthiest few.”
    The Bush tax cuts were not targeted to “the wealthiest few.” Everyone who paid federal income taxes received a tax cut, with the largest percentage of reductions going to those at the bottom. Last year, a family of four making $40,000 saved an average of $2,053 because of the Bush tax cuts. The tax code became more progressive as the share paid by the top 10% increased to 46.4% from 46% — and the nation experienced 52 straight months of job growth after the cuts took effect. And since when is giving back some of what people pay in taxes “transferring wealth?”
    In his inaugural address — which was generally graceful toward the opposition — Mr. Obama proclaimed, “We have chosen hope over fear, unity of purpose over conflict and discord.” Which Republican ran against him on fear, conflict and discord?
    Mr. Obama portrays himself as a nonideological, bipartisan voice of reason. Everyone resorts to straw men occasionally, but Mr. Obama’s persistent use of the device is troubling. Continually characterizing those who disagree with you in a fundamentally dishonest way can be the sign of a person who lacks confidence in the merits of his ideas.
    It was said that Lincoln crafted his arguments in “resonant words that enriched the political dialogue of his age.” Mr. Obama’s straw men aren’t enriching the dialogue of our age. They are cheapening it. Mr. Obama should stop employing them.

  2. Maggotpunk
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 6:09 am | Permalink

    Okay, now you’re done scrolling over here’s some of the latest science news. Wondering when your ancestors started walking on feet like yours? The answer, 1.5 million years ago (or as creationists believe, last August).

    Humans Walked On Modern Feet 1.5 Million Years Ago, Fossil Footprints Show

    ScienceDaily (Feb. 27, 2009) — Ancient footprints found at Rutgers’ Koobi Fora Field School show that some of the earliest humans walked like us and did so on anatomically modern feet 1.5 million years ago.

    Published as the cover story in the Feb. 27 issue of the journal Science, this anatomical interpretation is the conclusion of Rutgers Professor John W.K. Harris* and an international team of colleagues.

    Harris is also director of the field school which Rutgers University operates in collaboration with the National Museums of Kenya. From 2006 to 2008, the field school group of mostly American undergraduates, including Rutgers students, excavated the site yielding the footprints.

    More real science, not from a guy who hides from congressional subpoenas at:
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/02/090226141102.htm

  3. Heckler
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 6:30 am | Permalink

    “Liberals insist that the war on terror be carried out with search warrants and indictments because of al-Qaeda’s Constitutional rights, but the Second Amendment has got to go because there’s violence in Mexico”

    teehee.

  4. writerdog
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 7:02 am | Permalink

    I swear Heckler you are going to turn me into a frocking Sybil saying things like that!

  5. Agnatha
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 7:11 am | Permalink

    Karl Rove chiding someone for using strawman.

    Irony is not only not dead, it is jumping up and down doing the can-can.

    I’d say Re: Hank
    DNFTTbyProxy but…oooops!

    I already did.

    No MORE soup for you.

  6. shavedclean
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 7:16 am | Permalink

    Rove is a criminal as is Cheney

  7. beber
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 7:30 am | Permalink

    Sorry, shaved. Sometimes I oversimplfy. It is a blog you know. Don’t need to be writing books here.

  8. shavedclean
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 7:36 am | Permalink

    No one gave me the rule book, sorry.

  9. biased1
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 7:44 am | Permalink

    L-RON_Maggotpuke-

    “journal Science”

    heheheheh…

    tin foil hat…

    hehehehe…

  10. BlueJay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 7:49 am | Permalink

    Good day and welcome to the first day of life after the end of Bill O’Reilly’s radio career! “The Factor” is no more. Now Billo can devote more time to writing bad porn novels.

  11. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:01 am | Permalink

    Psychiatrist: Obama corrupting America with socialism
    Book author warns economic ‘rescue’ will turn citizens into ‘wards of state’
    By Chelsea Schilling

    “Rossiter is a forensic psychiatrist and author of “The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness.” In his book, he explains how the kind of liberalism being displayed by both Barack Obama and the Democratic Party can only be understood as a psychological disorder. He examines how modern liberal collectivism undermines the legal and moral foundations of ordered liberty.

    “This is not a stimulus program that is going to work economically,” Rossiter said. “In the meantime, the character of the people – virtues of self-reliance, self-direction, self-determination, altruistic concern for others, charitable care for others rather than government-mandated welfare programs, regulation and taxation – all the capacities that made this country great are being contaminated.”

    “We are being corrupted by these programs.”

    “Rossiter said Obama has seduced Americans into believing he can deliver them from economic distress associated with the housing, banking and unemployment crises.

    “He has a particular gift for rhetorical speech that’s inspiring, seductive and inviting,” he said. “He’s a quite charming person in his manner. People have been looking for someone to rescue them, and Obama has presented himself as the hero of the day.”

    However, Rossiter predicts Obama’s collectivist rescue plan will end in disaster.

    “He’s headed for a very severe fall because the expectations are far in excess of what anyone could possibly provide,” he said. “We’ve reached the point where, not only can the economy not respond to the stimulus, we have an incredible amount of debt. The entire project is going to collapse, and he will be humiliated.”

    Human nature is not conducive to socialism, Rossiter warned. Imposition of a collectivist system and policies encouraging citizens to seek help through government intervention and social programs may prove to be a death blow to the nation’s spirit and liberties.

    “If you keep trying to do it, you are going to destroy the character of the people,” he said. “You may be able to subjugate them and get them into this dependent state, but, ultimately, society collapses because it’s conceptually flawed.”

    While liberal policies eventually fail, he said the nation may suffer massive economic damage from oppressive taxation, stifling regulation and depreciated currencies; massive political damage in the form of irrational expectations of what government can and should do for the people; and, most of all, the permanent corruption of citizens by destroying their reverence for self-reliance, voluntary cooperation and genuine altruism.

    In his book, he reveals how the liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:

    * creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
    * satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
    * augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
    * rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government.

    Rossiter said the good news is that the collectivist agenda always self-destructs because it profoundly misconceives human nature and the human condition, but it will not do so before great damage has been done. It will attack the moral and ethical foundations of liberty, repeatedly violate the laws of economics and corrupt the character of the people as it invites them to become wards of the state.”

    Wake up America before we all find ourselves on our deathbed.

  12. biased1
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:02 am | Permalink

    Bluejerk- Good day and welcome to the first day of life after the end of Bill O’Reilly’s radio career! “The Factor” is no more. Now Billo can devote more time to writing bad porn novels.
    ——————————-

    And the beginning os the end for free speech…..
    Sieg Heil !!

  13. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:03 am | Permalink

    “* creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
    * satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
    * augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
    * rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government. ”

    Wow….that describes BlueJay EXACTLY

  14. BlueJay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:18 am | Permalink

    heh heh HEH

    At last Billo is no more. I wonder if Levin will be the next to go? Perhaps detonating into a foul smelling cloud.

  15. biased1
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:21 am | Permalink

    Bluejerk- detonating into a foul smelling cloud.

    and change his name to Olbermann?

  16. outlander
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:25 am | Permalink

    Hey WEBlog; where everyone is a racist, sexist, homophobe based on the sensitivities of the hearer. Harry Callahan has a message for you.

    Eastwood thinks political correctness has made society humourless

    Fri, Feb 27 01:15 PM

    London, February 27 (ANI): Acting legend Clint Eastwood , 79, apparently believes that political correctness has rendered modern society humourless, for he accuses younger generations of spending too much time trying to avoid being offensive.

    The Dirty Harry star insists that he should be able to tell harmless jokes about nationality without fearing that people may brand him “a racist”.

    “People have lost their sense of humour. In former times we constantly made jokes about different races. You can only tell them today with one hand over your mouth or you will be insulted as a racist,” the Daily Express quoted him as saying.

    “I find that ridiculous. In those earlier days every friendly clique had a ‘Sam the Jew’ or ‘Jose the Mexican’ – but we didn’t think anything of it or have a racist thought. It was just normal that we made jokes based on our nationality or ethnicity. That was never a problem. I don’t want to be politically correct.

    We’re all spending too much time and energy trying to be politically correct about everything,” he added. (ANI)
    ANI

  17. biased1
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:27 am | Permalink

    Bluejerk wants everyone to speak for the new “fuhrer”…….

    or be silenced.

    Sieg Heil !!!!!
    Sieg Heil !!!!!
    Sieg Heil !!!!!

  18. ANTI
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:30 am | Permalink

    We’re all spending too much time and energy trying to be politically correct about everything,” he added.
    ===============

    Amen.

    That old bastid’s right.

  19. george
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:38 am | Permalink

    Good morning comrades. Obama spreading doom and gloom. I would say he’s right there with the news media. Here’s an article on how when the Messiah talks, stocks and confidence goes down.

    http://thehill.com/dick-morris/its-obama-spreading-panic-2009-02-24.html

  20. BlueJay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:40 am | Permalink

    I think biased is taking this pretty hard!

    As the hours crawl toward Billo’s former air slot, biased must be rising to a nervous panic. WHO is looking out for him now?

  21. ANTI
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:42 am | Permalink

    BlueJay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:18 am | Permalink
    heh heh HEH

    At last Billo is no more.
    ===================

    Looks like that frees up 3 hours a day of your life, BlueJay.

    Watcha gonna do now?

  22. BlueJay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    Heh

    Biased sings…

    BILL! I love you so, I always will

  23. george
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:51 am | Permalink

    All aboard the Obama train to empty pocketbooks and freebies for all. The One knows how to play Robin Hood. Sooner or later his following will wake up and say he’s getting in my life and pockets. Lower taxes are the way to prosperity. No lib or dem has ever told me on this blog, at what point is taxes
    too high. http://www.nypost.com/seven/02272009/news/politics/1t_in_taxes_is_hell_to_pay_157199.htm

  24. Predestined
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    Here’s an article on how when the Messiah talks, stocks and confidence goes down.

    And the market shot UP every time Dubya opened his mouth over the last four or five months of 2008? In your dreams.

    Cons have VERY short memories.

  25. Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:57 am | Permalink

    Enjoy yourself with Rossiter’s fiction Box.

  26. fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    “The Commerce Department report released Friday showed the economy sinking much faster than the 3.8 percent annualized drop for the October-December quarter first estimated last month. It also was considerably weaker than the 5.4 percent annualized decline economists expected.”

    It’s a twofer Tuesday. Double weird. Usually they are spot on.

  27. Regular
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:12 am | Permalink

    At this rate, Obama will surpass Nixon in the ’stagflation’ era. If the carbon tax ponzi scheme is passed, there will be deserts where gas stations once stood along with long lines and strip malls will be abandoned.

  28. Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:22 am | Permalink

    Karl Rove who routinely ignores Congressional subpeonas writes that Obama claims, “I reject the view that . . . says government has no role in laying the foundation for our common prosperity.” Who exactly has that view? Certainly not congressional Republicans . . .

    Ronald Reagan, 1st Inaugural Address: “government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.”

    and

    “If we look to the answer as to why for so many years we achieved so much, prospered as no other people on earth, it was because here in this land we unleashed the energy and individual genius of man to a greater extent than has ever been done before. Freedom and the dignity of the individual have been more available and assured here than in any other place on earth.”

    and

    “Every dollar the Federal Government does not take from us, every decision it does not make for us will make our economy stronger, our lives more abundant, our future more free.”

    Donald Rumsfailed

    “The Federal Government should be the last resort, not the first. Ask if a potential program is truly a federal responsibility or whether it can better be handled privately, by voluntary organizations, or by local or state governments.”

    Thomas Sowell, idiot CONmentator

    “The assumption that spending more of the taxpayer’s money will make things better has survived all kinds of evidence that it has made things worse. The black family- which survived slavery, discrimination, poverty, wars and depressions- began to come apart as the federal government moved in with its well-financed programs to ‘help.’”

    George W. Bush

    “Our new faith-based laws have removed government as a roadblock”

    “We have finally learned that government programs cannot solve our problems. Government can hand out money, but government cannot put hope in our hearts or a sense of purpose in our lives.”

  29. Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    george–

    Taxes are historically low in the United States right now, especially on rich people.

  30. outlander
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    Since our nation’s retirement plans are almost totally dependent upon the stock market, if Obama wants to be around for a second term he best see that his domestic plans and policies do not conflict with producing a favorable business climate.

  31. Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    Every local clique had a Sam the Jew or Jose the Mexican . . .

    Yeah. Our group had a “Clint, the shi*head.”

    What are the odds of that?

  32. outlander
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    Those are great quotes with a lot truth. Thank you Capn.

  33. Regular
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    #
    CapnAmerica
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    Every local clique had a Sam the Jew or Jose the Mexican . . .

    Yeah. Our group had a “Clint, the shi*head.”

    What are the odds of that?
    ———————
    Or Brad the ‘booger-eater’

  34. Pleefer
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    Gotta dig Eastwood, he knows Americans have been pussified. He knows Americans spend too much time and effort TRYING to be offended.

  35. ghotiphaze
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    Eastwood thinks political correctness has made society humourless

    Fri, Feb 27 01:15 PM

    Y’know, Clint was on one of the comedy shows–Stewart or Co-Bear, can’t remember–plugging that movie when it first came out and he said the same thing. You might start getting a source a bit more current. (not as bad as getting science lessons from a 3500 year old book, I guess).

    “Good morning comrades. Obama spreading doom and gloom”

    El-Ketta gonna git cha!!! Run! Hide! Hoard!!!!

    ’bout ’nuff said o’ that. You all lost all credibility on the fear factor canard.

  36. ANTI
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    Pleefer
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:33 am | Permalink
    Gotta dig Eastwood, he knows Americans have been pussified.
    ===========================

    True dat homes.

  37. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:39 am | Permalink

    “Enjoy yourself with Rossiter’s fiction Box.”—bth

    Not only will little crap for brains Barry be a one term mistake, he will go out in flames and ridicule.
    That will not help the Democrats one bit.

    Hey Crapn, what’s a matter, a 79 yr. old actor got you riled up again…ha. Do you have some racial prejudiced yourself, or are you a hyper sensitive over reactive one yourself.
    I’m still laughing at YOU for your tantrum in righteous anger over a video you didn’t even understand or interpret accurately.
    What a nitwit.

  38. Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    Box–

    I was refuting Rove’s point.

    Guess you couldn’t see it.

  39. Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    As for your racist video, yeah, I don’t suffer that sh*t lightly, as no real American would.

  40. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    “little crap for brains Barry”

    So much for the cons not calling names as amway and reg tried to convince us of yesterday.

    How very christian of you bigotbawks.

  41. Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    “Not only will little crap for brains Barry be a one term mistake.”

    This from the guy who thought that McCain would win the election.

    Heh.

  42. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    “As for your racist video, yeah, I don’t suffer that sh*t lightly, as no real American would.”===Capn

    It wasn’taa racist video, but you sure were able to falsely make it so in your mind.
    Sounds to me like a case of major feelings of inadequacy on your part, and inability to laugh anytime you think your worth is challenged in your own mind. Must be tough to live there.

  43. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:50 am | Permalink

    “Psychiatrist: Obama corrupting America with socialism”

    Bigotbawks source? World Nut Daily?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAH

  44. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    I guess now we know why bigotbawks doesnt post his sources. He’s ashamed.

    And where is fleetie to call him out on the source?

  45. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    IOKIYAAR

  46. Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    “Major feelings of inadequacy . . . ”

    All too true, Box. I’ve resigned myself to the conclusion that despite my best arguments CONs will never see reason.

    I used to think that anyone could change their mind when their position is proven wrong, but now after many years here, I fully understand the mindless hatred of the right.

  47. Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:58 am | Permalink

    Although as for emotional “inadequacy,” those who like your “Tom Pain” demand racial purity are the epitome.

    Can anyone look at those pathetic KKKers or neo-Nazis and not see “I need to be better than sombody please!” written all over them?

  48. Regular
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:59 am | Permalink

    Frog went a courtin’ and he did ride, uh-huh
    Frog went a courtin’ and he did ride, uh-huh
    Frog went a courtin’ and he did ride
    With a sword and a pistol by his side, uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh

    He rode right up to Miss Mousie’s door, uh-huh
    He rode right up to Miss Mousie’s door, uh-huh
    He rode right up to Miss Mousie’s door
    Gave three loud raps, and a very big roar, uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh

    Said Miss Mouse, are you within, uh-huh
    Said Miss Mouse, are you within, uh-huh
    Said Miss Mouse, are you within
    Miss Mousie said, I sit and spin, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh

    Took Miss Mousie on his knee, uh-huh
    Took Miss Mousie on his knee, uh-huh
    Took Miss Mousie on his knee,
    Said Miss Mousie, will you marry me, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh

    Without my Uncle Rat’s consent, uh-huh
    Without my Uncle Rat’s consent, uh-huh
    Without my Uncle Rat’s consent,
    I wouldn’t marry the President, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh

  49. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    “HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAH”

    And here’s where that obnoxious noise comes from.
    http://www.pbase.com/trevvelbug/image/36595362

    That’s the most intelligent way an ignorant jackass has of responding. Criticizing the source not what was said, yes the ignorant, childish way.
    But that’s what we’ve all come to expect from the chicken farmer.

  50. Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/26/AR2009022600005.html

    Joe the Plumber (no longer a plumber; first name actually Samuel) popped into our town yesterday evening to sell his new book and to remind people that he’s still a plain and simple guy. Mission accomplished, on at least one of his missions.

    About 11 people wandered into the rows of seats set up hopefully in the basement of a downtown Border’s bookstore to hear Joe speak. Joe addressed them from behind a lectern and with a microphone, but that seemed unnecessarily formal.

    If you’ve already forgotten “Joe” Wurzelbacher, 35, of Toledo, Ohio, it just goes to show you how ephemeral the life of a plain-speaking, Republican Everyman is these days. Joe was the square-jawed guy briefly drafted by John McCain’s campaign to be its Voice of Regular Folks. Joe got a couple of news cycles’ worth of attention starting on Oct. 12 — he remembers the date clearly — when he was videotaped confronting Barack Obama about his small-business tax plans. He later called Obama’s plans “socialism.”

    Now, only a few months later, he’s kind of like a vestigial tail, a leftover artifact from a forgotten time. He’s Clara Peller, Willie Horton or Gennifer Flowers — names that are the questions in a “Jeopardy!” category called “Presidential Campaign Distractions.” To his credit, Wurzelbacher is hip to the audacity of hype: “I get e-mails all the time from people asking me when my 15 minutes is going to expire,” he grinned after his talk. “Sometimes they just write, ‘15 . . . 14:59 . . . 14:58 . . .’ ”

    *****

    Dude sold all of 5 books.

  51. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:06 am | Permalink

    “Although as for emotional “inadequacy,” those who like your “Tom Pain” demand racial purity are the epitome.”—Capn

    Ya still too stupid to get it, it was Constitutional purity, not racial….it had nothing to do with that except to one that sees everything through that distorted lens.

  52. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:06 am | Permalink

    Regular posted February 27, 2009 at 9:12 am

    If the carbon tax ponzi scheme is passed. . .
    ———

    You AGW deniers lost, Regular. Big time.

    The carbon taxes will pass, and there’s nothing you can do to stop them.

  53. Regular
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:14 am | Permalink

    #
    cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:06 am | Permalink

    Regular posted February 27, 2009 at 9:12 am

    If the carbon tax ponzi scheme is passed. . .
    ———

    You AGW deniers lost, Regular. Big time.

    The carbon taxes will pass, and there’s nothing you can do to stop them.
    —————————-
    Only a Crat like yourself cosmos would be gleeful about higher taxes, increased costs and methodology that has been proven not to work.

    re: the European carbon ponzi and tax schemes hasn’t worked and co2 emissions have actually risen there.

  54. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:17 am | Permalink

    They’re mental midgets Regular, simply that and nothing more.
    People so worthless to society and themselves they attach themselves to any hysterical movement to feel important.
    Really a sad existence.

  55. Monkeyhawk
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    If any financial philosophy has been “…proven not to work,” it’s Reaganomics.

  56. lindainks55
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Among the True Believers
    by John Avlon

    On the first day of the CPAC conference, conservatives were a feisty bunch without a leader. But they had a remedy for the Republican woes: be more conservative.

    Conservatives here see themselves as defenders of freedom and original principles—patriotism’s defense against a fate like the fall of Rome. But there is a danger that comes from the love of being misunderstood by the larger culture—an impulse to define what you are against with greater fervor than what you are for.

    With the cavalcade of speakers still coming up—including Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, Anne Coulter and Rush Limbaugh—expect more fuel to be poured on that fire, producing lots of heat. We’ll see how much light.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-02-27/among-the-true-believers/

  57. donndublin
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    #
    cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:06 am | Permalink

    Regular posted February 27, 2009 at 9:12 am

    If the carbon tax ponzi scheme is passed. . .
    ———

    You AGW deniers lost, Regular. Big time.

    The carbon taxes will pass, and there’s nothing you can do to stop them.
    _______________

    How else will cosMo get paid for blogging his propaganda?

    Get a real job you blood sucker.

  58. Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    They’re mental midgets Regular

    Because when one thinks intellectual giants, one thinks Boxlock — Obama is a muslim! — and Regular.

    Of course.

  59. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    Regular posted February 27, 2009 at 10:14 am

    #
    cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:06 am | Permalink

    Regular posted February 27, 2009 at 9:12 am

    If the carbon tax ponzi scheme is passed. . .
    ———

    You AGW deniers lost, Regular. Big time.

    The carbon taxes will pass, and there’s nothing you can do to stop them.
    —————————-
    Only a Crat like yourself cosmos would be gleeful about higher taxes, increased costs and methodology that has been proven not to work.

    re: the European carbon ponzi and tax schemes hasn’t worked and co2 emissions have actually risen there.
    ——————–

    Regular,

    I’m not “gleeful” about higher taxes.

    Higher energy efficiency is our cheapest energy “source”.

    Renewable energy costs less than carbon-based energy, especially when the “hidden” costs of carbon and other pollutants are included.

    CCS probably will not work, and should not be part of our energy plan until it’s proven to work long-term, on a large scale.

    The population of Europe has also risen.

  60. donndublin
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    That’s right. We didn’t go from 18% to single digit interest rates. We also really lost the cold war.

  61. donndublin
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    #
    Monkeyhawk
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    If any financial philosophy has been “…proven not to work,” it’s Reaganomics.
    _____________________________

    That’s right. We didn’t go from 18% to single digit interest rates. We also really lost the cold war.

  62. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica,

    bigotbawks must be a genius, because he makes his income from commission sales. We all know that salespeople are the smartest, most productive people on Earth. /sarcasm OFF

  63. donndublin
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    CCS probably will not work, and should not be part of our energy plan until it’s proven to work long-term, on a large scale.

    ______________

    CCS = Carbon Credit Schemes.

    Get ready for the One world Socialist government.

    Sieg Heil!! comrade.

  64. Regular
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    Carbon taxes will literally choke the life out of the aviation industry.

  65. Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    “It is the uni-culture that is your strength.”

    “Diversity, the very word means disunity.”

    “The government can’t find 20 million illegal aliens.”

    “Is it common sense to give away 9 billion dollars in foreign aid?”

    “Lay down your misplaced global burden and rebuild America.”

    “compassion for the 20 million illegal aliens but no compassion for the overburdened American taxpayer . . . ”

    “Stop bending over backwards to accomdate every other culture but your own.”

    “They call themselves progressives, we had another word in 1776, ‘traitors.’”

    “Would you stand by and watch your family perish when you could save them?”

    “You have a distorted notion of tolerance. Remember what Aristole said, ‘tolerance is the last vestige of a dying society.’”

    Then our narrator pours water into a glassful of wine saying, “This wine was once rich, highly desired and admired, but when you dilute it with enough water, it stops being anything.”

    ******

    I’m sorry, Boxlock. That’s nothing if not racist.

    BTW, Aristotle was a classicist who hated democracy . . . .

  66. Phantom
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    Reaganomics proved Deficits don’t matter.

  67. Nathaniel
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica,

    Obviously, you don’t have a dictionary.

    Here, allow me:

    rac?ism? ?/?re?s?z?m/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [rey-siz-uhm] Show IPA

    –noun 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

    2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

    3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

    Now, explain in some intelligent way, how any of those statements are “racist”

  68. ANTI
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    “It is the uni-culture that is your strength.”

    “Diversity, the very word means disunity.”

    “The government can’t find 20 million illegal aliens.”

    “Is it common sense to give away 9 billion dollars in foreign aid?”

    “Lay down your misplaced global burden and rebuild America.”

    “compassion for the 20 million illegal aliens but no compassion for the overburdened American taxpayer . . . ”

    “Stop bending over backwards to accomdate every other culture but your own.”

    “They call themselves progressives, we had another word in 1776, ‘traitors.’”

    “Would you stand by and watch your family perish when you could save them?”

    “You have a distorted notion of tolerance. Remember what Aristole said, ‘tolerance is the last vestige of a dying society.’”
    ========================

    Doesn’t sound racist to me.

    It sounds like the Truth!

  69. Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    The wine rich, highly admired, and desired represents America.

    The water represents the Mexicans and others swarming across our borders.

    You figure it out, Nathan.

  70. Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    I know, Anti.

    That’s entirely the problem.

  71. ANTI
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:58 am | Permalink
    I know, Anti.

    That’s entirely the problem.
    —————————–

    Really?

    What is untrue in those statements?

  72. Nathaniel
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica,

    It must be a truly odd thing, the workings of your twisted mind.

  73. okobserver
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    For days I have watched as the demos on this blog have become unraveled and looked at the Obama plans that they were applauding and now I think I have found the answer:

    Subject: Addiction is a terrible thing!

    It started out innocently enough. I began to think at parties now and then — just to loosen up.
    Inevitably, though, one thought led to another, and soon I was more than just a social thinker. I began to think alone — “to relax,” I told myself — but I knew it wasn’t true.

    Thinking became more and more important to me, and finally I was thinking all the time. That was when things began to sour at home. One evening I had turned off the TV and asked my wife about the meaning of life. She spent that night at her mother’s. I began to think on the job. I knew that thinking and employment don’t mix, but I couldn’t stop myself. I began to avoid friends at lunchtime so I could read Thoreau and Kafka . I would return to the office dizzied and confused, asking, “What is it exactly we are doing here?”

    One day the boss called me in. He said, “Listen, I like you, and it hurts me to say this, but your thinking has become a real problem. If you don’t stop thinking on the job, you’ll have to find another job.”

    This gave me a lot to think about. I came home early after my conversation with the boss. “Honey,” I confess, “I’ve been thinking…”

    “I know you’ve been thinking,” she said, “and I want a divorce!”

    “But Honey, surely it’s not that serious.”

    “It is serious,” she said, lower lip aquiver. “You think as much as college professors, and college professors don’t make any money, so if you keep on thinking, we won’t have any money!”

    “That’s a faulty syllogism,” I said impatiently. She exploded in tears of rage and frustration, but I was in no mood to deal with the emotional drama. “I’m going to the library,” I snarled as I stomped out the door. I headed for the library, in the mood for some Nietzsche . I roared into the parking lot with NPR on the radio and ran up to the big glass doors. They didn’t open. The library was closed.

    To this day, I believe that a Higher Power was looking out for me that night. Leaning on the unfeeling glass, whimpering for Zarathustra , a poster caught my eye, “Friend, is heavy thinking ruining your life?” it asked.

    You probably recognize that line. It comes from the standard Thinkers Anonymous poster. Which is why I am what I am today: a recovering thinker.

    I never miss a TA meeting. At each meeting we watch a non-educational video; last week it was “Porky’s.”

    Then we share experiences about how we avoided thinking since the last meeting. I still have my job, and things are a lot better at home. Life just seemed…easier, somehow, as soon as I stopped thinking. I think the road to recovery is nearly complete for me.

    Today I made the final step. I registered to vote as a Democrat.

  74. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    LOL!

    The “Professional Engineer” does not seem to know that CCS = Carbon Capture and Sequestration, and he also confirms Godwin’s Law.

  75. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    ANTI seems to believe that Mozilla does not want people to use their software.

  76. Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    Well . . . for starters, tolerance is not the last vestige of a dying society.

    Did the Soviet Union fall because it was too tolerant? Did Rome? Did the Third Reich? Did the English Empire?

    They were all known for their lack of tolerance. And they all fell.

  77. Nathaniel
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    For 8 years we have had nothing but hate and loathing from the left towards Conservatives, Republicans, and Bush… and especially Christians.

    Now you sit here talking to us about hatred? Because we don’t agree with Obama on his big government spending programs?

    Absurdity at it’s finest.

    Hypocrisy all around.

    Why is it that liberals seem to project their feelings into accusations towards anyone who disagrees with them?

  78. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    Obama’s messianic standing among his adoring adolescents, and other mental midgets as we see here, has begun to wane, as it becomes increasingly apparent that he’s far more fragrance than substance.
    And the ‘fragrance will soon become an detestable stench.

  79. ANTI
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:02 am | Permalink
    ANTI seems to believe that Mozilla does not want people to use their software.
    ———————–

    That’s news to me!

  80. Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    Nathan–

    Given the choice between yours or mine, I’ll stick with mine, thank you very much . . .

  81. Nathaniel
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica,

    Ok, fine, that could be a good discussion on tolerance.

    What does that have to do with you claim of racism though?

    That is the argument at hand.

  82. ANTI
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    I’ll wait ’till you get out of the starting gate, Capn’A.

  83. Nathaniel
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica,

    That is not very “tolerant” of you now is it?

  84. donndublin
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    #
    CapnAmerica
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    The wine rich, highly admired, and desired represents America.

    The water represents the Mexicans and others swarming across our borders.

    You figure it out, Nathan.
    _______________

    Only a racist would see it that way.

  85. Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    Racists aren’t tolerant for starters, Nathan.

    Also, I don’t really feeling like playing “prove that hitting your head with a hammer hurts” today, Nathan.

    Sorry.

  86. Nathaniel
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica must be a racist!

  87. Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:08 am | Permalink

    Okay, Donn.

    How would a non-racist see it?

  88. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:08 am | Permalink

    “We all know that salespeople are the smartest, most productive people on Earth.”–the comatose idiot

    Why thank you ‘comatose idiot’.
    Yes dealing with company owners, doctors, medical facility administrators and the like, and doing so successfully is both rewarding financially and career wise.
    But suck being a hysterical global warming groupie and NOTHING more.
    What a joke you are comatose. Cattle is all.

  89. Nathaniel
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica,

    Why yes, Racists are often not very tolerant.

    But that doesn’t prove or mean that all intolerant people are then Racists.

    Logic 101.

    I know something like logic is not your strong point, but you should learn about it sometime in your life.

    Do you want to be ignorant forever?

  90. Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    I’ve got three people telling me that my interpretation of this analogy is wrong, that it’s not racist.

    Not one of them will explain what it is, what it DOES mean, however.

    Odd, isn’t it.

  91. Regular
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    The fall of Rome and the Obama administration

    * Poor management – The Obama administration
    * The dole – (bread and circuses)- Obama – we gonna give you freebies.
    * Hoarding – Wall Street
    * Division – Just like the divide the Crats have employed
    * Inflation – Diocletian (Obama) took over to try and restore the once prosperous Rome (USA). He did things such as forcing farmers to stay on their land, forcing people to work(Obama’s road building system), and burdening people with large taxes(carbon taxes)

  92. Nathaniel
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica,

    Now you are acting like Chas.

    Instead of simply explaining why you think it is racist, you will ramble on for 50 posts defending why you shouldn’t have to explain your claim or how your claim is so obvious you shouldn’t have to.

    Never actually defending your stupidity…

  93. Nathaniel
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica,

    Now you play the “interpretation” game too. LOL

    Ok, please tell us why you “interpret” those statements to be racist.

  94. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    Regular posted February 27, 2009 at 10:44 am

    Carbon taxes will literally choke the life out of the aviation industry.
    ——————-

    Regular,

    You need to publish your scientific paper proving that CO2 is insignificant. And that the warming of Earth since the 1970’s was/is caused by a shift in Earth’s orbit. You better hurry!

  95. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    We all know that salespeople are the smartest, most productive people on Earth. /sarcasm OFF

  96. Regular
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    #
    cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    Regular posted February 27, 2009 at 10:44 am

    Carbon taxes will literally choke the life out of the aviation industry.
    ——————-

    Regular,

    You need to publish your scientific paper proving that CO2 is insignificant. And that the warming of Earth since the 1970’s was/is caused by a shift in Earth’s orbit. You better hurry!
    =====================================
    Still trying to sell that ‘average temperature’ shell game eh cosmos?

  97. ANTI
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    Capn’A,

    The pistol fired.

    You can leave the starting gate now.

  98. donndublin
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    #
    cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    LOL!

    The “Professional Engineer” does not seem to know that CCS = Carbon Capture and Sequestration, and he also confirms Godwin’s Law.
    __________________

    I not getting paid to know those things like you are.

    cosMo again proves that:

    “Godwin’s Law itself can be abused, as a distraction or diversion, that fallaciously miscasts an opponent’s argument as hyperbole, especially if the comparisons made by the argument are actually appropriate. A 2005 Reason magazine article argued that Godwin’s Law is often misused to ridicule even valid comparisons”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin’s_law

  99. Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    Look, Nathan, I believe that the analogy is self-evident.

    This pompous racist goes on and on for five minutes about how we’re too “tolerant of other cultures” and how we need to think of ourselves instead of “them,” and he pours water into a glassful of wine and says this is what will happen to us if we don’t stop what’s happening.

    I interprete that as racist. We whites are the wine–the real America–and we’re getting watered-down with the “lesser breeds.”

    If you have a better interpretation, I’d sure like to hear it.

  100. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    “We all know that salespeople are the smartest, most productive people on Earth.”—comatose idiot

    Thanks again but you can stop now, I understand who you worship me, but get over it…I find you disgusting as you have no value except as a hysterical groupie over global warming.
    What a waste of a life….but it’s your choice.

  101. Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    Boxlock won’t say what it means.

    Donn won’t say what it means.

    Nathan won’t say what it means.

    Anti won’t say what it means.

    But they’ll all pester me with a thousand questions as to why I think it means what I said it means.

  102. ANTI
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    Capn’A, tell me why those statements are not true.

    Go.

  103. ANTI
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    But they’ll all pester me with a thousand questions as to why I think it means what I said it means.
    ==============

    You’ve done it for a few days.

    It’s our turn.

  104. Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    Any one? Any one?

    Buhler? Buhler?

  105. Nathaniel
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica,

    I think the key phrase is:

    “YOU INTERPRET”

    aka, it is not racist, but you think it is.

    However,

    Nothing the man said was actually a racist statement by the definition of racism.

    You have to assume several different things to come to your conclusion.

    I don’t have to offer a different explanation to prove you wrong.

    You have offered nothing to prove yourself right.

    Yeah, you have an “interpretation” but WHY is your interpretation right? What proof do you have that is what the man meant?

  106. Nathaniel
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica,

    It sounds like the man was making an argument for protecting our culture.

    When you value everything and include everything but your own culture it will be washed away… wine and water.

    That is not racist.

  107. george
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    Kiss my emission stinking smelling rear greenies. Oh yes they want in the toilet in the namesake of saving the world and our environment. This report from UK. It’s all about control.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/feb/26/toilet-roll-america

  108. ANTI
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    Capn’A,

    If you think the statements are clearly racist then it should be easy to show how they are false.

  109. Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    I already showed that tolerance is not characteristic of a dying society, Anti.

    But then there’s the obvious “diversity = disunity.”

    If you eliminated everything that was invented by African-Americans, our society would come to a grinding halt . . . literally, because the stop light was invented by a black American.

    Also, there wouldn’t be anything on the radio except for polka music . . .

  110. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    bigotbawks,

    You should stop raising everyone’s health care insurance premiums, by switching your career to selling to climate scientists.

  111. ANTI
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    If you eliminated everything that was invented by African-Americans, our society would come to a grinding halt . . . literally, because the stop light was invented by a black American.
    ———————

    Black citizens are Americans. You make no point.

  112. Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    “It sounds like the man was making an argument for protecting our culture.”

    From whom?

    From “the other,” the “not us,” the people we devalue.

    And that’s racism.

  113. donndublin
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    #
    CapnAmerica
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:08 am | Permalink

    Okay, Donn.

    How would a non-racist see it?
    _______________

    I non-racist would see it as ideology, not race.

  114. Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    So you’re saying, Anti, that racial “diversity does NOT equal disunity”?

    Hey, so do I.

    Tell it to that Tom Paine guy, because he said the opposite.

  115. ANTI
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    The point is this.

    It is common sense to hold ourselves/OUR country up before we try saving everyone else in the world.

  116. george
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    Here’s another toilet idea. Airline could maybe charge for using the toilet. If you don’t have any coins you are SOL. Hey I remember at some of the train stations & other public places, you had to pay before you go. Crazy world.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090227/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_ireland_ryanair_pay_toilets

  117. Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    Nope, not buying it, Donn.

    This country has had wide diversity of “ideologies” since its founding.

    You can’t water down ideology with a competing ideology . . .

  118. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    cosmos,
    You wouldn’t know a climate scientist if one came up and slapped your face for giving them such a negative image.

  119. lindainks55
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    Do you suppose their cleaning budget is adequate to cover the costs of possible protests to this charge for using the toilet?

  120. donndublin
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    That idea belongs in the toilet. I remember the day when some toilets were locked and you had to put a nickel in to take a crap.

    That reminds me of the character on “Happy Days”. Arnold would say he crawls under to avoid paying the nickel.

  121. ANTI
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:36 am | Permalink
    So you’re saying, Anti, that racial “diversity does NOT equal disunity”?

    Hey, so do I.

    Tell it to that Tom Paine guy, because he said the opposite.
    ——————–

    Race wasn’t mentioned, except by you.

  122. ANTI
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    lindainks55
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:41 am | Permalink
    Do you suppose their cleaning budget is adequate to cover the costs of possible protests to this charge for using the toilet?
    ————————–

    A few people dropping a deuce at the door would change the policy.

  123. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    One of the reasons we still have AGW deniers today. . .

    Washington Post decides that George Will is entitled to his own facts
    http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2009/02/washington_post_decides_that_g.php

  124. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    “It sounds like the man was making an argument for protecting our culture.”—Nathaniel

    That’s good Nathaniel, I could easily go alone with that as well.
    I feel he was speaking to the breaking down of our Constitutional principles that this country was founded on, and rose to world prominence on.
    Of course we can see that small minded, self-focused people, ie Capn, think it’s all about them or race.

  125. donndublin
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    #
    CapnAmerica
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    Nope, not buying it, Donn.

    This country has had wide diversity of “ideologies” since its founding.

    You can’t water down ideology with a competing ideology . . .
    __________________

    The overwhelming ideology was Freedom. Read the bill of rights.

    The water is socialism.

  126. Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    And when someone says “diversity,” how do you define it, Anti?

    People who wear pink Mardi Gras beads instead of red ones?

  127. ANTI
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Of course we can see that small minded, self-focused people, ie Capn, think it’s all about them or race.
    =====================

    I prefer to call them pussified or vag-e-crats.

  128. Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    The dude wasn’t talking about socialism, Donn, but nice attempt at a save.

    BTW, if America was all about “freedom,” how did slavery figure into it then?

  129. ANTI
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:46 am | Permalink
    And when someone says “diversity,” how do you define it, Anti?
    ——————

    The opposite of assimilation. Remember that?

  130. Pleefer
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    That whole “Obama is a muslim” is such a strawman. His policies are the real arguments, let’s stick with things we can prove. First off, no one knew anything about a freshman senator’s policies at all (when he was running for POTUS). His voting record as a senator was kind of an insight, but this man came “out of nowhere”. His whole background is shrouded in secrecy. He was raised up by the corporate media as an “everything to everyone and most importantly, not Bush” demagogue.

    Once we’re to the point of being taxed beyond our means, there will be zero incentive for anyone to work. And just where in the world will that leave us?

    I hope, sorry Hope®, that you with eyes and ears are finally preparing yourselves and families.

    We’re going to be in some heavy schtuff here in a year or so…we ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.

    Don’t be dependent on Obama or anyone else and it wouldn’t hurt to have your spiritual house in order as well (if you believe in that sort-of-thing).

    Change® indeed.

  131. Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    Our sacred Constitution gave everyone equal rights in 1789.

    However there were a few fine points in defining “everyone.”

    You had rights only if

    1. you were born male

    2. you were born white

    3. you owned land.

    Women, blacks, Mexicans, Native Indians, Chinamen, landless whites . . . yeah, not so much.

    This is the “original intent” that people like Scalia want to return to .

  132. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    bigotbawks posted February 27, 2009 at 11:40 am

    cosmos,
    You wouldn’t know a climate scientist if one came up and slapped your face for giving them such a negative image.
    —————-

    The only climate scientists that I’ve given a “negative image” are the ones like Nathaniel’s agricultural economist, Dennis Avery — and their falsehoods deserve to be debunked.

  133. Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    Interesting, Anti.

    How does one “assimilate” when the banks and the realtors red line you and your kind out of whites only areas?

  134. Nathaniel
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:57 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica,

    You confuse the original intent with the original status quo.

    And that is not what anyone wants to return to.

  135. Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    What happened when black kids “assimilated” the white schools in places like Little Rock? Or lunch counters in Selma?

    Talk about blaming the victim.

  136. Pleefer
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    Slavery was created by elites and the wealthy, REGARDLESS of color.

    Again, there were, at the beginning of the colonies, white slaves from Ireland, Scotland and elsewhere gathered by the elite Britains. Slavery has always been a WORLD and HISTORICAL problem. The US Constitution changed all of that.

    Granted slavery did not “end” in America until after the Civil War, but it was on a steady decline and would have died out on its own with the attitudes and morality of Americans at large.

    But today, we have a new slavery. The economic slave. And that encompasses ALL of us, regardless of race or creed. It’s an “equal opportunity…ummm…employer“.

    Yeah, like Holder says, “we’re all cowards when it comes to talking about race”. We’re all cowards to refuse to see that these divisive arguments do nothing but keep all of us divided. It sick.

    Holder spews that out, just to keep it going.

  137. donndublin
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    #
    CapnAmerica
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    The dude wasn’t talking about socialism, Donn, but nice attempt at a save.

    BTW, if America was all about “freedom,” how did slavery figure into it then?
    ___________________

    “The dude” was using a metaphor. You see what you want to see. Maybe you should just ask “the dude”.

  138. Pleefer
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    The Big Lebowski…what a great flick.

  139. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    “I prefer to call them pussified or vag-e-crats.”—ANTI
    You’ll get no argument from me ANTI.

    “How does one “assimilate” when the banks and the realtors red line you and your kind out of whites only areas?”—Capn

    They were trying to keep them out of loans they couldn’t afford, and should have been a lot more aggressive with that so we wouldn’t have gotten into the economic financial disaster we have.

  140. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    test:
    < (r)>

  141. Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    Obama’s Budget Plan Sweeps Away Reagan Ideas

    By DAVID LEONHARDT
    Published: February 26, 2009

    The budget that President Obama proposed on Thursday is nothing less than an attempt to end a three-decade era of economic policy dominated by the ideas of Ronald Reagan and his supporters.
    The Obama budget — a bold, even radical departure from recent history, wrapped in bureaucratic formality and statistical tables — would sharply raise taxes on the rich, beyond where Bill Clinton had raised them. It would reduce taxes for everyone else, to a lower point than they were under either Mr. Clinton or George W. Bush. And it would lay the groundwork for sweeping changes in health care and education, among other areas.

    More than anything else, the proposals seek to reverse the rapid increase in economic inequality over the last 30 years. They do so first by rewriting the tax code and, over the longer term, by trying to solve some big causes of the middle-class income slowdown, like high medical costs and slowing educational gains.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/27/business/economy/27policy.html?_r=2&hp

    *****

    In your face, Reagan-Bush-Bush. In your face.

  142. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    Change® indeed.

    Pleefer, how’d you make the trademark symbol?

  143. beber
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    What is more pussified than a fat cat?

  144. Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000003062248

    As if that isn’t bad enough, here’s insult to your injury, CONs . . .

    Say hello to Senator “Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot”

  145. Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6ml16zGPy8

    Here, CONs, I watched your video.

    Now I dare you to watch this one.

  146. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    bigotbawks,

    Are all of the people that you work for in the medical industry impressed by your AGW denial?

    Have you convinced all of the ones who agree with the scientific AGW theory that they are just stupid, “hysterical global warming groupies”?

  147. Hud
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    Boxlock,

    Not Pleefer but
    ® = & # 174

    without the spaces, of course.

    Try 169, also.

  148. Agnatha
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    “I guess now we know why bigotbawks doesnt post his sources. He’s ashamed.”

    You are giving him WAAAY too much credit here.

    Someone who flails desperate insults like he does to get responses isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed, in fact, he isn’t even in the shed.

  149. Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16680-porn-in-the-usa-conservatives-are-biggest-consumers.html

    Those states that do consume the most porn tend to be more conservative and religious than states with lower levels of consumption, the study finds.

    “Some of the people who are most outraged turn out to be consumers of the very things they claimed to be outraged by,” Edelman says.

    * * * * *

    Eight of the top 10 pornography consuming states gave their electoral votes to John McCain in last year’s presidential election, while six out of the lowest 10 favoured Barack Obama.

    Old-fashioned values

    Church-goers bought less online porn on Sundays – a 1% increase in a postal code’s religious attendance was associated with a 0.1% drop in subscriptions that day. However, expenditures on other days of the week brought them in line with the rest of the country, Edelman finds.

    Residents of 27 states that passed laws banning gay marriages boasted 11% more porn subscribers than states that don’t explicitly restrict gay marriage.

  150. Regular
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    A video that describes Democrats perfectly. :)

    http://www.liberalquicksand.com/humor/1274/bob-hope-talking-about-zombies-and-democrats/

  151. Phantom
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    GDP has biggest (4th qtr) drop, since St. Ronnie was president.

  152. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    Experts: Big Flaw in Will’s Ice Assertions
    http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/27/expers-big-flaw-in-wills-ice-assertions/?hp
    “Here’s some input from one ice specialist, Jennifer Francis at Rutgers University, reacting to Mr. Will’s comparison of current ice with 1979 and other assertions:

    Her general point:

    This battle never ceases to amaze me. People seem to be much more inclined to believe what they hear from non-experts because it’s what they’d rather hear.
    ————–

    More at link.

  153. Hud
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Boxlock, some others

    ¥ & #165 (remove space between & and #) Yen
    € Euro 8364
    ± Plus or Minus 177

  154. ANTI
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    Pleefer
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:06 pm | Permalink
    The Big Lebowski…what a great flick.
    =======

    Nice marmot.

  155. lindainks55
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    A chart showing GDP since 1982. Interesting.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29427165/

  156. ANTI
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    So….Uh cosmos, you wipin’ with your hand to save the Earth yet?

  157. brian_nuevo
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    “CapnAmerica
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    “Some of the people who are most outraged turn out to be consumers of the very things they claimed to be outraged by,” Edelman says.”

    they gotta do research

  158. fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    “Nice marmot.”

    Was it always on foot?

  159. lindainks55
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    Obama To Overturn Bush ‘Conscience’ Rules

    The Obama administration is moving to rescind another controversial Bush administration abortion policy.

    The regulation, known as the “conscience clause,” took effect on the former president’s final day in office. It allows health care workers to decline to provide or participate in any service that violates their conscience.

    Next week, according to Obama administration sources, the Department of Health and Human Services will begin the process to formally rescind the regulation. But it will also ask the public to comment on the move for 30 days.

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=101241248&ft=1&f=1001

  160. Monkeyhawk
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    This will stun you –

    Turns out Apu I mean Alfred E. I mean “Bobby” Jindalahasapeemapetilon admits he was lying about his Hurricane Katrina heroics.

    http://tinyurl.com/b9z4d5

    You could knock me over with a truck.

  161. Monkeyhawk
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    Word out of CPAC is Apu I mean Alfred E. I mean “Bobby” Jindalahasapeemapetilon’s people are telling ‘em the Louisiana governor can’t attend because he’s “working on state business.”

    At Walt Disney World?

    C’mon…

  162. Posted February 27, 2009 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, MH.

    That guy really Piyushes me off.

  163. Nathaniel
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    Life: Imagine the potential.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vDQCv0yYaQ

  164. Nathaniel
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    Yep Linda… Nothing like the big daddy government forcing people to do things.

    Got to love that liberal freedom!

  165. fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    The Barack “Sambo” Obama administration is moving to rescind another controversial Bush administration abortion policy.

  166. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    “Are all of the people that you work for in the medical industry impressed by your AGW denial?”—comatose

    Most think the AGW hysterics are just that, silly self-absorbed hysterics, with nothing better or more constructive to do.

  167. YellowdogLiberal
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    Nice to see all the cons who infest this thread are alive and nasty today. Makes for quick reading when you scroll over so much.

    Dennis

  168. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    ““I guess now we know why bigotbawks doesnt post his sources. He’s ashamed.””

    Are you an idiot? I posted the sourse!
    “Book author warns economic ‘rescue’ will turn citizens into ‘wards of state’
    By Chelsea Schilling”,
    and “Rossiter is a forensic psychiatrist and author of “The Liberal Mind”

    You call that no posting sources. Just what do you think those names are there for.
    What is required, are you mentally and intellectually disabled or something…ops never mind, it’s obvious you are.

  169. fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    “Are all of the people that you work for in the medical industry impressed by your AGW denial?”

    It seems that most people in most industries, medical or not, don’t believe in the phony AGW.

    “Forty-four percent (44%) of U.S. voters now say long-term planetary trends are the cause of global warming, compared to 41% who blame it on human activity.”

  170. lindainks55
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

    Yep Linda… Nothing like the big daddy government forcing people to do things.

    Got to love that liberal freedom!”

    The employer will decide what the responsibilities of each job / position entail and the employee will decide whether s/he will be able to perform those responsibilities. Everyone gets a choice.

  171. sursum
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    This just in: Ryanair, the largest intra-European airline announced to-day that it is considering the idea of putting coin slots on aircraft washrooms doors. Now that’s creative revenue generating from a captive marketbase.

  172. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    Hey fleettwood!

    Do you trust polls of the general population more than science?

    Experts: Big Flaw in Will’s Ice Assertions
    http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/27/expers-big-flaw-in-wills-ice-assertions/?hp
    “Here’s some input from one ice specialist, Jennifer Francis at Rutgers University, reacting to Mr. Will’s comparison of current ice with 1979 and other assertions:

    Her general point:

    This battle never ceases to amaze me. People seem to be much more inclined to believe what they hear from non-experts because it’s what they’d rather hear.

  173. fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    “Do you trust polls of the general population more than science?”

    I am only pointing out that most folks aren’t buying what you are selling.

    “Pew Poll: Global warming ranks dead last as priority for 2009″

  174. fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    cosmo is beginning to repeat herself, again.

  175. brian_nuevo
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    “fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 1:56 pm | Permalink
    The Barack “Sambo” Obama…”

    that’s high class right there folks

  176. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    “People seem to be much more inclined to believe what they hear from non-experts”

    And what Jennifer Francis at Rutgers University is REALLY SAYING is;
    ‘WHAT!… people don’t believe me, a scientist and expert, who knows and deserves what to tell everyone about how things are and how they should live, preposterous….those cattle’.

  177. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    fleettwood,

    So you prefer to believe people who believe falsehoods from George Will, instead of facts from the climate scientists?

    Okay. . .

    BTW: I’m not the one “selling” AGW science.

  178. fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    “that’s high class right there folks”

    monkeyhawk sez it’s OK

  179. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    “Pew Poll: Global warming ranks dead last as priority for 2009?

    Yeah….hey cosmos, answer this, is a AGW hysteric who’s crying alone in the forest where no one is listening still making any noise?

  180. fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    George Will??

  181. fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    “is a AGW hysteric who’s crying alone in the forest where no one is listening still making any noise?”

    Yes. The sound of fap fap fapping.

  182. brian_nuevo
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    “fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:42 pm | Permalink
    “that’s high class right there folks”

    monkeyhawk sez it’s OK”

    if monkeyhawk told you to swallow lead would you do it?

  183. fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

    if monkeyhawk told you to swallow lead would you do it?

    Yes

  184. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    Hud,
    Thanks for the response. I haven’t tried them yet but will.

  185. fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    “Monkeyhawk
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 1:39 pm | Permalink
    Word out of CPAC is Apu I mean Alfred E. I mean “Bobby” Jindalahasapeemapetilon’s”

    What’s next? Mexicans are called Chewy?

  186. fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    To the 50% of Catholics who voted for him. Suck it.

    “WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama wants to roll back a Bush administration rule that has become a flash point in the debate over a doctor’s right to refuse to take part in abortions.”

  187. brian_nuevo
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    “fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 2:49 pm | Permalink
    if monkeyhawk told you to swallow lead would you do it?

    Yes”

    are you used to swallowing things when monkeyhawk tells you?

  188. Agnatha
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    Re: Fleettwood
    DNFTDBT

    Re: Boxlock/Bigotbawks/Box o’ Rocks/Sandbox
    DNFTFT

    When confronted with nothing but lame attempts at provocation, ignore.

  189. brian_nuevo
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    “Federal law has long forbidden discrimination against health care professionals who refuse to perform abortions or provide referrals for them on religious or moral grounds. The Obama administration supports those laws, said the HHS official.

    The Bush administration’s rule adds a requirement that institutions that get federal money certify their compliance with laws protecting the rights of moral objectors. It was intended to block the flow of federal funds to hospitals and other institutions that ignore those rights.

    But the Obama administration was concerned that the Bush regulation could also be used to refuse birth control, family planning services and counseling for vaccines and transfusions.”

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1152ap_abortion_rule.html?source=mypi

  190. fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    “are you used to swallowing things when monkeyhawk tells you?”

    Yes.

  191. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    Yes, bigotbawks, I saw that you posted the author for your wingnut cut and paste. But not the source.

    Here’s your sign. Like I said, World Nut Daily

    http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=90121

    Now who’s the jackass, jackass?

    With apologies to Kansasjackass, who’s blog I like very much :)

  192. fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    “When confronted with nothing but lame attempts at provocation, ignore.”

    Why do you say that, frito bandito?

  193. ANTI
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    Re: Agnatha

    DNFTDB

  194. Posted February 27, 2009 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

    “ThesaurusLegend: Synonyms Related Words Antonyms
    Noun 1. racism – the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races bias, prejudice, preconception – a partiality that prevents objective consideration of an issue or situation anti-semitism,antisemitism – the intense dislike for and prejudice against Jewish people
    white supremacy – the prejudice that members of the white race are superior to members of other races

    2. racism – discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race racial discrimination, racialism, discrimination, favoritism, favouritism – unfair treatment of a person or group on the basis of prejudice
    racial profiling – a form of racism consisting of the (alleged) policy of policemen who stop and search vehicles driven by persons belonging to particular racial groups”

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/racism
    ============================================

    fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 1:56 pm | Permalink
    The Barack “Sambo” Obama…
    ==========================================

    Fleettwood just doesnt know when to stop… “Sambo” and Obama in the same sentence is about as RACIST as it gets…

    CapN — Perhaps the better term for what you see in that lunatic video would be:

    “radical ethnicism”

    Assimilation isnt NEEDED if there is no diversity…. Guess that point gets taken off the table….

  195. ANTI
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

    Re: Chas

    STFU

  196. Posted February 27, 2009 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    Main Entry: di·ver·si·ty
    Pronunciation: \d?-?v?r-s?-t?, d?-\

    Function: noun

    Inflected Form(s): plural di·ver·si·ties
    Date: 14th century

    1: the condition of being diverse : variety ; especially : the inclusion of diverse people (as people of different races or cultures) in a group or organization

    2: an instance of being diverse

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/diversity
    ============================================

    I dont think Webster’s would define “diversity” is equal to “disunity”

    Such an equation is just more Crap from the Reich Wing insistence on stamping out “diverse” cultures existing in this nation…. YES, Nathan, Anti-Diversity carries with it the attitude of Racism…

  197. fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 3:50 pm | Permalink

    chas:

    Perhaps you should speak to your good friend, monkeyhawk.

  198. fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 3:52 pm | Permalink

    Mr. Gore is misleading:

    “Former Vice President Al Gore is pulling a dramatic slide from his ever-evolving global warming presentation.
    Now Mr. Gore is dropping the graph, his office said today.
    Dr. Pielke quoted the Belgian center: “Indeed, justifying the upward trend in hydro-meteorological disaster occurrence and impacts essentially through climate change would be misleading.”

  199. donndublin
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 3:52 pm | Permalink

    #
    CapnAmerica
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    Our sacred Constitution gave everyone equal rights in 1789.

    However there were a few fine points in defining “everyone.”

    You had rights only if

    1. you were born male

    2. you were born white

    3. you owned land.

    Women, blacks, Mexicans, Native Indians, Chinamen, landless whites . . . yeah, not so much.

    This is the “original intent” that people like Scalia want to return to .
    __________________

    Crapon likes to reminisce.

    Remember how the Democrats:

    1.Fought to keep slavery during the civil war.

    2.Voted against the civil rights act during the 60’s i.e. Al Gore Sr.

    3.Democratic senator Robert KKK Byrd.

  200. Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    Donnie, those are OLD, and largely debunked arguments — The Democrats then arent the Democrats now… Do you think all of our lawmakers ought to drag out the old-fashioned white powder wigs???

  201. HLP
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    Will, children,

    The DJIA dropped another 120 today. Seems like the wonderful news from the WH is falling a little flat.

    Down about 2500 since the election of the ‘chosen one’. Every time he talks the DJIA goes down. Maybe if we didn’t have to look up his nostrils as he talked down to us . . .

    Starting to get a little old.

  202. okobserver
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    Chas isn’t Robert kkk Bryd still a democrat today?

  203. okobserver
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    Hank you couldn’t be more right. Don’t know if you saw my post earlier about how to become a democrat. You just have to stop thinking. We have seen a lot of that on this very blog.

  204. HLP
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    How’s that cabinet doing? Has the ‘messiah’ found his third choice for HHS and Commerce yet? Five weeks into the ‘post racial era’ and we don’t have a full cabinet yet.

    He11, poor ol’ TurboTax Tim will probably have to resign before we find out the full cabinet!

  205. HLP
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    What a bunch of maroons! How long are you progressives on this BLOG going to make excuses for this bunch of Chicago crooks?

    LOL

  206. fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    “Chas isn’t Robert kkk Bryd still a democrat today?”

    Yes, and wearing a white wig. A black wig would never do.

  207. beber
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    A scrollover circle jerk.

  208. okobserver
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    Oh Fleet I forgot that. Chas seems to have left the blog as usual when you ask a hard question.

  209. okobserver
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    Beber were you contributing something to the conversation. I seem to have missed it.

  210. BlueJay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    America is optimistic and all of the cons are glum.

    Good times!

  211. okobserver
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    Bluejay that optimism you are seeing is in your own eyes. Take off the blinders and look at the real world. Start thinking. Oh wait the strain might be too much. Go back to being lemming.

  212. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    beber posted February 27, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    A scrollover circle jerk.
    —————-

    And fleettwood the fapper, and BDP, is helping them.

  213. Hud
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    “America is optimistic and all of the cons are glum”

    Right.

    51% Say Obama Unlikely to Halve Deficit in Four Years

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/general_business/51_say_obama_unlikely_to_halve_deficit_in_four_years

  214. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    Yes, bigotbawks, I saw that you posted the author for your wingnut cut and paste. But not the source.—the chicken farming jackass kfg
    And here’s the source of that little diatribe;

    http://www.pbase.com/trevvelbug/image/36595362

    I posted what was important jackass, the authors.

  215. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    Now Mr. Gore is dropping the graph, his office said today.
    Dr. Pielke quoted the Belgian center: “Indeed, justifying the upward trend in hydro-meteorological disaster occurrence and impacts essentially through climate change would be misleading.”—-fleet

    Right fleet, notice of course how he had to get caught in his lies before he did though.
    What a self-promoting hypocrite Algore is.

  216. fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:42 pm | Permalink

    From Fark.com:

    “American Society of Newspaper Editors cancels its 2009 convention because there won’t be any newspapers left by the time the convention comes around”

    I wonder if being HugeLibs has anything to do with it.

  217. fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    No duh! Their wives are conservative and religious!
    You gotta shoo the penguins out of the way to go to bed.

    “Those states that do consume the most porn tend to be more conservative and religious than states with lower levels of consumption, the study finds.”

  218. Heckler
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    My dog went to the Tea Party in Wichita today. Aint he cool?

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2195649/posts

  219. parkay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    As expected, Obamanation is moving to strike down President Bush’s newly ordered rights of conscience, so that he can soon force medical professionals and pharmacies to participate in abortions and distribute dangerous abortion drugs and abortifacients, regardless of their religious, moral, and ethical beliefs. Their alternatives would then be to lose federal funds, shut down their pharmacy or clinic, or leave to find a new career.

  220. brian_nuevo
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    This just in: poster ‘parkay’ bitter for years ever since George Tiller broke off their high school romance.

  221. Pleefer
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

    Ever feel like just saying it?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqtgfjkB6Pg

  222. Predestined
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

    Dude sold all of 5 books.

    He should’ve written faster.

  223. fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    This just in:
    After knocking parkay up, then breaking off the romance, the bastid STILL charged her for the abortion.

  224. Regular
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    #
    Heckler
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    My dog went to the Tea Party in Wichita today. Aint he cool?

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2195649/posts
    ———————————
    I hear Pelosi bought a new dog, named it Spendulus.

  225. donndublin
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    #
    Chas
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    Donnie, those are OLD, and largely debunked arguments — The Democrats then arent the Democrats now… Do you think all of our lawmakers ought to drag out the old-fashioned white powder wigs???
    ____________

    But Chas, please do keep up. I was only putting into perspective and bring up to date the point Crapon was trying to make.

  226. donndublin
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    “debunked arguments”……. oh yeah it was a war between the states.

  227. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    Obama Declares War on Investors, Entrepreneurs, Businesses, And More — By: Larry Kudlow
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/29434104

    “Let me be very clear on the economics of President Obama’s State of the Union speech and his budget.

    He is declaring war on investors, entrepreneurs, small businesses, large corporations, and private-equity and venture-capital funds.

    That is the meaning of his anti-growth tax-hike proposals, which make absolutely no sense at all — either for this recession or from the standpoint of expanding our economy’s long-run potential to grow…..

    …..Essentially, the Obama economic policies represent a major Democratic party relapse into Great Society social spending and taxing. It is a return to the LBJ/Nixon era, and a move away from the Reagan/Clinton period. House Republicans, fortunately, are 90 days sober, as they are putting up a valiant fight to stop the big-government onslaught and move the GOP back to first principles.

    Noteworthy up here on Wall Street, a great many Obama supporters — especially hedge-fund types who voted for “change” — are becoming disillusioned with the performances of Obama and Treasury man Geithner.

    There is a growing sense of buyer’s remorse.

    Well then, do conservatives dare say: We told you so?”

  228. lindainks55
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    It’s good President Obama made our economy a high priority and Congress began on the bill even before he took office. The sad state of our economy inherited from the last administration required great urgency!

    ——–

    Wall Street slumps to six months of losses
    Dow’s lowest close since April 1997; bank stocks bear the brunt

    The figures showed the U.S. economy suffered its deepest contraction since early 1982 during the fourth quarter, falling at a 6.2 percent annual rate.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3683270/

  229. Monkeyhawk
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    The CONs are all in a tizzy because the gravy train doesn’t run through Wall Street anymore.

    Poor failed capitalists are desperately trying to figure out how they can possibly survive on a mere $400,000.00 a year of taxpayers’ money.

    The market is going through a classic “correction” from thirty years of Reaganomics.

  230. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    Everyone with a real stake in the economy has no confidence in little Barry, he maybe gifted in speech, when reading a prompter, but clueless.

  231. BlueJay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    Stodgy, plodding cons. You can practically HEAR them fossilizing.

  232. Monkeyhawk
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    Yeah sure, “Boxlock20″ –

    The poor guy’s down to a 68% approval rating.

    Everyone hates him.

  233. BlueJay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    COOL 1776 is on.

  234. BlueJay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 5:38 pm | Permalink

    “Cool, cool, Conservative Men”

    Sheesh they haven’t changed a bit in 2 centuries.

  235. fleettwood
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

    “oh yeah it was a war between the states.”

    The War of Northern Aggression.

  236. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    “The poor guy’s down to a 68% approval rating.
    Everyone hates him.”—Monkey

    Like I said, anyone with a stake in the economy AND UNDERSTANDS anything about what’s happening.
    It’s a sad state of affairs when 68% of the country is that blind.
    Like a bunch of cattle all following some unknown leader up the line they can’t even see, but though they can’t see still following right in line because they have their nose right in the butt of the one in front of them.

  237. BlueJay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    “Most men who have nothing would rather protect the possibility of becoming rich rather than confront the reality of being poor.”

    Rutledge-Against the Revolution.

    They really haven’t changed. And to a degree and among the ill informed, it still works. Amazing.

  238. Regular
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    Pay to Pee? Budget Airline May Charge Passengers to Use Toilet

    DUBLIN — Is a bathroom an optional extra when you’re at 30,000 feet? Ryanair boss Michael O’Leary seems to think so — and says his no-frills airline might charge customers to use its aircrafts’ toilets.

    O’Leary whipped up a frenzy of indignation and potty humor Friday as he suggested that future Ryanair passengers might be obliged to insert a British pound coin (U.S. $1.40) before they gain access to in-flight relief.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,501780,00.html
    =============================
    Personally, I think they should charge by the minute to keep the ‘War and Peace’ novel readers from taking too much ‘air time.’

  239. Monkeyhawk
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    Conservative “men?!”

    Meet master Jonathan Krohn, 13, who addressed the mouth-breathers at CPAC today.

    http://tinyurl.com/ddlq5e

    It’s obvious he’s the brains of the outfit. And Piyush is simply too old to understand.

  240. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    And because BlueJay is too lazy to ever work himself to obtain something on his own, he advocates taking from those that will work. He gives up even before daring to try, and parasites off others.
    What a guy….pathetic.

  241. lindainks55
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    Yes, the Republicans are crying loudly all the while ignoring what the state of the economy was before January 20, 2009. It makes for a bunch of laughs around here watching their stretching and shenanigans. ;-)

    Kinda like the ones that are screaming, “It’s too soon, the mission isn’t finished!” when the news says Obama is bringing home so many troops from Iraq by Aug of 2010 — a timeline exactly like the one bush signed before leaving office.

    Are memories convenient, or is it required to be against what they were defending just over a month ago now that they’re out of power?

  242. Posted February 27, 2009 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 5:30 pm | Permalink
    Everyone with a real stake in the economy has no confidence in little Barry, he maybe gifted in speech, when reading a prompter, but clueless.
    ____________________________________________

    Looks like, with a 68% approval rating, Boxlicks is the one too blind to see…. How do you like your minority position there, Boxer??

  243. Posted February 27, 2009 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    Teleprompters never helped GWB in 8 years time… Besides, they are a nuisance to use…

  244. Posted February 27, 2009 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

    Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 5:51 pm | Permalink
    And because BlueJay is too lazy to ever work himself to obtain something on his own, he advocates taking from those that will work. He gives up even before daring to try, and parasites off others.
    What a guy….pathetic.
    ==================================================

    I think its about damned time Boxlicker stop using Blue Jay for his personal whipping boy…. Whatsa matter, Box??? Cant think of anything to say if you dont denegrate a person you dont even know??? Hmmmm????

    I think maybe its time to use the bigot bawks as a whipping boy… What you think Bawksie??? I think we ought to just keep calling you a friggin racist, until you stop demeaning others with your stupid, vitriolic posting…. I doubt you would like that very much…. But, hey, if it gets you to stop, it’s worth it….

    Racist pig!!

  245. okobserver
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

    Two Polls on Obama’s Mortgage Plan Show Very Different Results
    Last week a Rasmussen poll showed that only 38 percent of Americans support Obama’s mortgage plan, but a new Washington Post-ABC News poll shows that 64 percent of Americans somewhat or strongly support Obama’s plan.

    Why the wildly different results? How the poll questions were phrased might explain the difference.

    The WaPo/ABC News poll asks:

    21. On another economic issue, would you support or oppose the federal government using 75 billion dollars to provide refinancing assistance to homeowners to help them avoid foreclosure on their mortgages? Do you feel that way strongly or somewhat?

    Rasmussen asks:

    1* To reduce the number of mortgage foreclosures, should the federal government subsidize mortgage payments for financially troubled homeowners?

    It seems that the difference between these two questions is that Rasmussen states that the government would “subsidize” “financially troubled homeowners”, while the WaPo/ABC poll states that the government would be “using” money to provide “refinancing assistance to homeowners”.

    Perhaps I’m reading too much into this, but it seems that Rasmussen emphasizes that those getting government cash are financially troubled, while the WaPo poll leaves the impression that the money may go to a larger pool of homeowners. Of course, one would think it would be easy to infer from the Post poll question that people who need “help” to “avoid foreclosure” are financially troubled. But unless one (or both) of the pollsters got a bad sample, the subtle differences in phrasing may explain the big difference in the results.

    Posted by John McCormack on February 24, 2009 05:05 PM | Permalink
    ———————–
    Approval ratings are funny things. What do you want yours to say?

  246. okobserver
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    Chas what happened to turn the other cheek? Seventy time seven times. You really have no room to talk.

  247. Phantom
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    I think the difference probably lyes in the use of phrasology re subsidize mortgage versus provide assistance.
    Subsidize is kind of a loaded term.

  248. BlueJay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 7:14 pm | Permalink

    “I think maybe its time to use the bigot bawks as a whipping boy”

    Heh, where ya been Chas?

    bawks has made himself my personal hacky sack for months now. I’m the door he can’t help but walk in to.

    Kid wants the computer for awhile and I’m going for a walk to avoid his music! I wanted to stop in and tell everyone to have a look at the western sky. Also, I’ve seen it many times, but “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington” is on.

    I HIGHLY recommend it. It is never revealed in the film, but I gotta believe the idealistic young Mr. Smith (as played by Jimmy Stewart) was a good liberal Democrat.

    So long for awhile. Tee me up a good one bawks. I’ll kick ya over that Moon.

  249. Monkeyhawk
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know if this means anything.

    But it’s cool.

    http://bangocibumbumpuluj.blogspot.com/2009/02/magnetic-self-assembly-in-slow-motion.html

  250. george
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 7:54 pm | Permalink

    Obama budget plan is out of sight on costs and will only lead to greater downturn and lack of confidence. The dems has it all wrong. I hope those who voted for change has buyers remorse.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090228/ap_on_go_co/obama_congress

  251. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:18 pm | Permalink

    george,

    I hope that English is your 2nd, rarely used language.

  252. Mary_Caruso
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    “Obama budget plan is out of sight on costs and will only lead to greater downturn and lack of confidence”

    Nevr mind that the Iraq war cost three times as much as Obama’s plan…where were you guys when the Bush regime’s spending was out of control? It was a Republican administration that sent the country on a downward spiral and wiped out America’s confidence.

  253. Pedant
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    lol

    The Palin supporters here are black, black, black, black in the soul. Souls blacker’n midnight on Mars, I’d say.

    You know, if a guy didn’t know better he just might jump to the conclusion that those with ODS are kinda maybe wishin’ a little harm to come to the US of A. Maybe not, I mean you know, I’m sure they wouldn’t ever with any harm at all come to the country. Right? I mean just a few months ago they were all but accusin’ certain folk hereabouts of being sickly invested in the ill health of the country if it meant Bush’s poll numbers would fall even a speck. Heck, those with ODS would never ever turn around and be THAT memory impaired, that hypocritical, would they?

    lol

    Just a teensy weensy bit, maybe, just if it means bad things come President Obama’s way?

    Hmmmm?

    ; > )

  254. BlueJay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:33 pm | Permalink

    The country is optimistic and ready to make serious changes. I will take that over what the greed heads in the market are doing any day.

  255. lindainks55
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    Convenient memories is my guess, Mary. Now that they’re out of power they have forgotten much and remember some quite differently. Like today’s reports of the last quarter of 2008 being so dismal — you’d think it happened when President Obama was in office (except most Americans are smart enough to know it didn’t!). I noticed today’s posts from some of our Republican bloggers included mentions of, “since Obama was elected…” They are grumpy, they are desperate, they seem very afraid that President Obama will succeed. ;-)

    How is your sister?

    Road trip tomorrow! The traveling sisters of the cyberpants. We’re gonna miss you!

  256. Mary_Caruso
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    Amen!

  257. Mary_Caruso
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

    The “Amen” was meant for BJ….
    I’m SO jealous of you Linda!!! I want to go so badly..I won’t miss the next time, I promise.
    My sister is doing better, looking forward to her stay in Texas and spending time with her kids and grandkids..thanks for asking and tell everyone I wish I was there!

  258. BlueJay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    Good evening ladies.

    I’m not usually in such pleasant company.

    It’s sad isn’t it? We seem fated half of the country to hate the other half.

    But our side didn’t start it. Well except for all that bothersome social reform and stuff. AND we didn’t up the ante by forcing on them a President that was never elected like they did to us with bush.

    I have to hope that they are out of power long enough that they don’t get to hit us back again any time soon,

  259. lindainks55
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    Some say this is the way it has always been, but I disagree. I’m sure there have been very rough, very difficult and divided times in our country’s past.

    In my lifetime, when President Clinton behaved badly and the Republicans decided to impeach (with full knowledge they didn’t have the votes to convict) was when the really bad divisions began.

    We were enjoying prosperity and peace. And President Clinton behaved very badly. It didn’t effect the running of our country but you know how those superior godly unsexy Republicans hate it when someone is gettin’ it on!

    So, we Democrats got paid back for Clinton’s indiscretions with bush. Except he brought misery, war, failure to the entire country. The 24percenters continued to support him. Do we have an unusually large representation of those 24percenters here at WEBlog?

    Anyway, I’m proud of where we are today, I’m heartened by President Obama. He has been president for just barely over a month and look at what he has done! If in time his plans fail, we’ll all tell him. But you know what? I think he will be willing to change course, make corrections, try something different when and if it is necessary.

    Doesn’t it feel good to be an American again after that long dismal eight years of bush?

  260. BlueJay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    “The Palin supporters here are black, black, black, black in the soul.”

    Yeah I know but we need them right where they are.

    Get this. It is not surprising to learn that con women HEAVILY favor lil Sarah as their next candidate. Men, meanwhile seem fractured between Romney and Huckabee.

    With Jindal having blown up on the pad.

    The next con primary will be HIGH entertainment! Huckabee aint the quittin’ kind and lil Sarah’s ONLY strength is raw ambition.

    There will be blood.

  261. Political_mama
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    i can’t wait, and I”m so sad that Mary isn’t coming with us!

  262. lindainks55
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:57 pm | Permalink

    Have you changed your registration yet? We want to be sure we can make a difference in the Republican primaries!

  263. HLP
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    Doesn’t it feel good to be an American again after that long dismal eight years of bush?
    ________________________________

    Dear Linda,

    My pride in my country, my patriotism, my faith, my fortune, my happiness and my success never has and never will depend on the president or any other person.

    It has to really suck to be liberals. I pity you.

  264. Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    When Obama succeeds, and all of this most unusual spending WORKS, the Republicans wont have anything to run against…. And I know that Obama will succeed… Because people will see REAL change… Change that really makes a difference in their lives… in our nation… and in the world…. We just have to all remember… Change is never easy… and many people, set in their ways, are always afraid of Change….

  265. lindainks55
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    I pity you.”
    ——-

    You shouldn’t.

    I am quite successful, very happy, in excellent health, loved, safe, my bills are current, my pantry stocked, AND I’m goin’ on a roadtrip tomorrow with great friends. Life couldn’t be better!

  266. BlueJay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:08 pm | Permalink

    Ya know, none of us ever hoped for bush to fail.

    He just sorta made it obvious that was what he intended to do.

    It was before this forum existed, but I even rooted for the SOB once.

    As bad as I hated him, I wanted him to do well when he spoke about the loss of the Columbia orbiter. Of course, he let me down.

    A lot of cons like Rush Limbaugh and some of our posters here are not touched by pain or hard times. No matter how hard they get. This gives them the option of hoping the country falls on hard times. They have nothing to lose and everything and more to gain.

    What hurts THEM is being marginalized. They are getting a health dose of that now and we daily read the results.

  267. Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    Joe Biden said that Obama would be forced to make decisions that many would think were wrong… But, that if people worked TOGETHER, Obama’s decisions would prove to be the right ones… I sort of think this economic crisis is one of those decision times… And Obama will be proven to be right… and the success of his decisions will be seen before the 2010 election season…

    It isnt a matter of trusting in ONE person… It boils down to Americans trusting each other to make the best out of a crisis situation…

    When all of those yokuls at the CPAC meeting are shown to be what they are…. right wing goof balls… their party wont stand a chance of winning much of anything… except for those areas that would re-elect them even though they oppose the very things that are best for the constituents they represent…

  268. lindainks55
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    Ya know, none of us ever hoped for bush to fail.”

    Truth!

    Once he was appointed the job by the Supreme Court, we all settled in — we all had jobs, families, full lives — and of course he had that brush on the ranch so everyone was busy.

    After 911 he had us all in the palm of his hand. He really did. We were a united country.

    The rest is well known to all but those 24 percenters.

    He worked hard to earn the disrespect with which most people hold him.

  269. BlueJay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    “It boils down to Americans trusting each other to make the best out of a crisis situation…”

    I don’t think the cons can be counted on much for help there. They are not much on cooperative effort. Too, they see crisis as opportunity to advance their agenda or enrich themselves.

  270. Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    “I don’t think the cons can be counted on much for help there. They are not much on cooperative effort. Too, they see crisis as opportunity to advance their agenda or enrich themselves.” [Blue Jay]

    And that is exactly why there are many who say the opposition wants Obama AND America to fail… They would rather see our nation FAIL, than to see us work together, to pull us all out of this crisis… It is the height of egoism run rampant….

  271. Regular
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    Chas
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    “I don’t think the cons can be counted on much for help there. They are not much on cooperative effort. Too, they see crisis as opportunity to advance their agenda or enrich themselves.” [Blue Jay]

    And that is exactly why there are many who say the opposition wants Obama AND America to fail… They would rather see our nation FAIL, than to see us work together, to pull us all out of this crisis… It is the height of egoism run rampant…
    ===================================
    heh heh heh

    deja vu…

  272. BlueJay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    See? There’s one.

    “Regular” is removed from any and all difficulties the country might face. That is, as long as he can confine the public charity to himself.

  273. Regular
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    The traveling sisters of the cyberpants…

  274. lindainks55
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    DEA to halt medical marijuana raids

    Supporters of programs to provide legal marijuana to patients with painful medical conditions are celebrating Attorney General Eric Holder’s statement this week that the Drug Enforcement Administration would end its raids on state-approved marijuana dispensaries.

    Holder was asked about those raids Wednesday in Santa Ana, Calif., at a news conference that was called to announce the arrests of 755 people in a nationwide crackdown on the U.S. operations of Mexican drug cartels. He said such operations would no longer be conducted.

    White House spokesman Nick Shapiro hinted at the policy shift shortly after the California raids, telling The Washington Times that the dispensaries were legal in California and that the Obama administration’s stance was that “federal resources should not be used to circumvent state laws.”

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29433708/

  275. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    Regular,

    You should be writing your scientific paper that refutes the AGW theory.

  276. outlander
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    Too, they see crisis as opportunity to advance their agenda or enrich themselves.

    ———–

    You know BJ, if you think about what you wrote, you may have stumbled on the answer to the riddle of success in life.

  277. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    Chas,
    Bring it on faux preacher boy, bring it on. If you are as ineffective at getting to me as you are being a preacher I will laugh at your efforts. Actually I already am. Call me a racist if it makes you happy, it means nothing for two reasons. One, I’m not and have never put anyone down because of race, and two, because what you think and say mean nothing to me. Got it? I know you’re slow but try and let that sink in.
    BlueJay begs for my comments, he can’t keep his Marxist mouth shut, and he DOES advocate being a parasite off others.
    Plus he’s just plain stupid, and on several occasions offered physical challenges or threats, which make me laugh.
    I sent him to stand in a cold parking lot to think about it once, remember, ha. But he’s too dim to understand what happened to him.

  278. BlueJay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    Stumbled on it outlander?

    No, I walked away from it.

    I don’t see the exploitation and pain of others as opportunity.

  279. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Hank posted February 27, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    It has to really suck to be liberals. I pity you.
    —————–

    LOL!

    Hank believes that his Navy liason(sic) duty makes him more qualified about climate science than the worlds top climate scientists. That is really pathetic!

  280. outlander
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    I mean just look BJ, your homey Obama and his posse are trying to taking advantage of the pain, big time. Scaring the pants off of people and pushing through humongous spending bills that no one even read before they voted to pass.

    That’s what I’m trying to do. I have plans to profit from this recession and the inevitable comeback. I refuse to participate in the pain.

    Wait on the government if you want. You will be waiting a long time for nothing.

  281. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    “No, I walked away from it.”…BlowJ

    Bull, you never had it, because you never got up off your butt long enough to have it and won’t.
    You’d rather have someone take it by force and give it to you. As I’ve said…pathetic.

  282. Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    Right Bawks… And Hitler LOVED Jews too… You are a racist… the worst kind… because you dont even KNOW it… At least the KKK takes pride in their sadistic belief system… YOU on the other hand, deny what you are… What a Class A Loser….

    Re: Racist Bawks…

    DNFTRLT

  283. lindainks55
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    BlueJay,

    Friends know who you are. I respect you and care a bunch too!

    Do not set your goals by what other people deem important. Only you know what is best for you!

    And don’t ever underestimate your worth by comparing yourself with others. It is because we are different that each of us is special.

    Good night! It’s late, see ya soon.

  284. BlueJay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:08 pm | Permalink

    Oh come on outlander.

    I expect this sort of thing from bawks but not from you.

  285. outlander
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    Just frank, optimistic words, BJ. Take ‘em or leave ‘em. Matters naught to me.

  286. BlueJay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    “I mean just look BJ, your homey Obama and his posse are trying to taking advantage of the pain, big time. Scaring the pants off of people and pushing through humongous spending bills that no one even read before they voted to pass.”

    My “homey”? A little hint of racism from you there out?

    How is trying to treat pain taking advantage of it? And PLEASE do not lecture me as to using fear to press legislation. MY side never made any laws against people who make us uncomfortable.

  287. BlueJay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

    I don’t find any optimism in your post outlander.

    I do see some much expected self centeredness.

  288. Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    BlueJay, there is a serious, and sad, infestation of racists and bigots on this Blog… Too often in history, those who talk the loudest about freedom, are those who would take that freedom from you… They are among us… And they know who they are…

  289. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    BlueJay you can work and live anyway you like and I will say nothing about it. That is entirely up to you, and it’s your right do as you please. I’ll probably even defend your right to do so. What you do and how you live are none of my business as long as you stay out of mine.
    But likewise you do NOT have the right to work and live as you like, and then not like it and come after mine….got it?
    Live your life off what you make of it, and let others live theirs the same.

    Chas, give me ONE example of my being racist, just ONE!
    Sure I object to masses of illegal aliens swarming over the southern border and demanding jobs and entitlements from taxpayers. Which is happening to the tune of billions of dollars, but that has nothing to do with race and everything to do with protecting the country and the future for our kids and grandkids.

  290. outlander
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:23 pm | Permalink

    bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.

    Well, certainly you fit that definition Chas. A lot of us do.

  291. Regular
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

    #
    cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    Regular,

    You should be writing your scientific paper that refutes the AGW theory.
    ======================================
    Of course cosmos…

    But at least I would understand the reasons why and what I wrote and would not need a Web site like you to explain the science.

    (chortles)

  292. okobserver
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    lindainks55
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 8:50 pm | Permalink
    Some say this is the way it has always been, but I disagree. I’m sure there have been very rough, very difficult and divided times in our country’s past.

    In my lifetime, when President Clinton behaved badly and the Republicans decided to impeach (with full knowledge they didn’t have the votes to convict) was when the really bad divisions began.
    ————————
    Bill Clinton, President of the United States was impeached by the House of Representatives on December 19, 1998, and acquitted by the Senate on February 12, 1999
    ————————
    Linda this is why you appear to be so stupid. That and the fact that your happiness rides on the back of the prez. Pathetic.

  293. BlueJay
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    “BlueJay you can work and live anyway you like and I will say nothing about it. That is entirely up to you, and it’s your right do as you please. I’ll probably even defend your right to do so.”

    What is that a plea?

    Anyone who reads here KNOWS it’s a lie.

    Didn’t you just the other day post that someone who disagreed with you should have had his brains bashed in as an infant and that his mother was negligent in not getting that done?

    Isn’t it you who takes pleasure in the pain of a friend of mine who has done you no harm other than to offend your sensibilities?

  294. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    It’s “interesting” that bigotbawks makes false assumptions about anonymous posters on this blog — and makes angry, ranting attacks using those false assumptions. Why does bigotbawks do that?

  295. Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    In my lifetime, when President Clinton behaved badly and the Republicans decided to impeach (with full knowledge they didn’t have the votes to convict) was when the really bad divisions began. [Lindainks
    ————————
    Bill Clinton, President of the United States was impeached by the House of Representatives on December 19, 1998, and acquitted by the Senate on February 12, 1999 [okobserver]
    ————————

    Looks to me like Linda was right on target… The Republicans knew they couldnt get a conviction in the Senate, but yet spent much time and money on their impeachment vote in the House…

    What I want to know: Okie, what makes Linda stupid, about saying the same thing as you said, just in a different phrasing…
    Hmmmm????

    Looks to me if Linda is stupid, then you are right in there with her…. But, as usual, you must be having another attack of that reading problem…. again….

  296. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:42 pm | Permalink

    No DumbJay, I did not say someone should have had their brains bashed in, I ask if maybe they had been dropped on their head or thrown as an infant which is what caused their mental deficiency.
    Don’t start your lying again now.

    I don’t take pleasure in the pain of a friend of yours. I take strong exception to the fact she is trying to redefine for all of society the meaning of a term that has been accepted for centuries, the term of marriage that has been recognized as being between a man and a woman. For that she attacks me….and you bet I come back at it. Again, she can live as she pleases, she can ’sleep’ with the chickens or cattle for all I care, just keep it out of my face, and don’t try and make it a normal accepted equivalent of true marriage.

  297. Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:44 pm | Permalink

    Outlander >>>>

    “bigoted – blindly and obstinately attached to some creed or opinion and intolerant toward others; “a bigoted person”; “an outrageously bigoted point of view”"

    http://www.wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

    IF you count intolerance to bigotry as bigotry, then I plead guilty…. But that’s such a bi-polar way of dealing with it… of course, I do consider the source of the comment… :-)

  298. Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:48 pm | Permalink

    “….just keep it out of my face, and don’t try and make it a normal accepted equivalent of true marriage….” [bigotbawks]

    Ahhh, now we see… You are unwilling, and obstinately obsessed with keeping your understanding of marriage as the only one acceptable…. In other words, YOU wont accept any other definition, so you want to FORCE your definition, right or wrong, on others who do not share it….

    Riiiight…. but Bawks isnt a bigot… Riiiiight…. HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!

  299. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:49 pm | Permalink

    “It’s “interesting” that bigotbawks makes false assumptions”—comatose
    Examples jerk, examples not generalizations you invent, so I can respond if I so choose.

    “Why does bigotbawks do that?”—comatose, again
    Box doesn’t. But Box does make sport of you comatose and the other DimLibs.

  300. Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:50 pm | Permalink

    Oh yea, and WHY do you bigoted types ALWAYS throw in some stupid, vitriolic reference to bestiality or pedophilia, when you DEMEAN gay marriage??

    Is that just one of your mental issues, or were you born that way, or is it in the water???

  301. Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:53 pm | Permalink

    well, time for more studying….

    good night; good luck; god bless —-
    whatever you perceive god to be!!

    blessings all!!

    blessings on this geat nation, and what it yet can be!!

    so mote it be!!

    nite all!!

  302. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:56 pm | Permalink

    Chas, you are mad, completely hysterically mad.
    Defending society, defending a term universally understood for thousands of years by the entire world is not being a bigot.

    Let me ask you faux preacher, do you defend the teachings of the Bible, and of Christ and his disciples? Or do you redefine anything and everything there according to your own whim?

    How about the dictionary, do you accept a redefinition of terms and simple go with it, creating a world of Babel.

  303. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 10:58 pm | Permalink

    Oh, there he goes again running off just when he knows he’s looking like an ass.

  304. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:05 pm | Permalink

    bigotbawks posted February 27, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    . . . everything to do with protecting the country and the future for our kids and grandkids.
    ———-

    LOL! That’s too funny! A rabid AGW denier claiming that he is concerned about the “future for our kids and grandkids”.

    Because we don’t think about future generations, they will never forget us. – Henrik Tikkanen

  305. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:09 pm | Permalink

    Chas posted February 27, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    Oh yea, and WHY do you bigoted types ALWAYS throw in some stupid, vitriolic reference to bestiality or pedophilia, when you DEMEAN gay marriage??

    Is that just one of your mental issues, or were you born that way, or is it in the water???
    ———————–

    Maybe they just “choose” to do that? /irony ON

  306. Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:14 pm | Permalink

    You obviously dont, Bawks… You bear false witness almost every time you address a post to me…. So, why would you expect anybody else to accept thoe teachings, if YOU arent willing to do so yourself??? Isnt that, sorta, like hypocrisy???

    Thats all you got anyway… I mean, do you/did you sleep with your wife during her monthly cycle?? Do you eat shell fish?? Do you eat pork?? Do you believe in taking unruly children to the Elders, and then having them stoned outside the camp??

    Those are all “biblical teachings” WHY would ANYbody in THIS day and age accept ANY of those “teachings”????

    Do you believe that the Clergy should be celibate?? The Church believed that for many years, until somebody came along and CHANGED that belief, among others… It was called the REFORMATION….

    Times Change…. People Change…. Definitions Change…. And whether YOU like it or not, definitions of marriage will not always remain the way YOU want them to be…. And, I do have to tell you… YOU dont have to give up your precious definitions…. Just allow others to have theirs EQUALLY as much as you want yours!!

    Why cant you get that through your thick dense gray matter?? YOU dont rule the world…. People are free to believe in different religious understandings than what YOU have… Why??? Because we live in a grand nation that believes in Freedom of Religion…. And if you think for ONE minute that gay marriage has nothing to do with Freedom of Religion, well, you just proved it by expecting ALL the people of this land to BELIEVE your religious understanding/definition of marriage!!

    And you have the unmitigated gall to call ME a “faux preacher” Damn, man, you dont know ANYTHING about me…. When you call me a “faux” preacher, that is a blatant LIE…. Is LYING also a part of your precious “biblical teachings” that you want me to defend???

    I cant defend your beliefs… Because I have NO idea what your beliefs are… What you post of your beliefs is so convoluted, I dont know how YOU know what your beliefs are!!

    NOW…. I am outta here… It’s LENT… I have studying to do… My parish depends on me during this Season….

    Dont expect me to argue with you on these matters again anytime soon…. You arent worthy of the effort…. BIGOT!!

  307. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:15 pm | Permalink

    Oh comatose, go bang your head against a tree, or better yet a coal plant exhaust stack.
    You are really a bore.

  308. Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:22 pm | Permalink

    Good grief, another wish for physical harm to come to another poster…. Ohh, I forgot… Boxer doesnt do those things…. LOLOL heheheheheheheheeeeeeeee

  309. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:24 pm | Permalink

    bigotbawks,

    Go explain to your kids and grandkids that you are a rabid AGW denier, because you are deeply concerned about their future.

    Because we don’t think about future generations, they will never forget us. – Henrik Tikkanen

  310. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:27 pm | Permalink

    Chas,

    Maybe bigotbawks was exposed to too much mercury from coal-fired plants . . .?

  311. Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:27 pm | Permalink

    I know you Chas, I know you from the filth that pours forth from your mouth, the filth that reveals what’s in your soul.
    As I said, I don’t care what homosexuals do privately, except for the damage it does to them with them being a part of the same society we all live in, but they can keep it out of my face and the faces of my children and grand-children because that too is filth like your mouth.
    And yes there are rules of living and of Jewish law in the old testament that changed with the new, but there are also things that did not. You as a faux preacher are unable to tell the difference.
    People are free to believe what they like, but just as you say I have no power over them, they have none over me, and have no right to try and change me or the society we live in for their own purpose.
    Tell me, does your ‘flock’ know who you are here.
    Of course not, liar.

  312. Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:35 pm | Permalink

    Freedom… Justice…. Equality… That’s what I post about here, Bawks…. Now, if those things are FILTH… Then I guess you are the REAL enemy…. NEVER have I seen such lunacy posted in the name of “christian” beliefs…. NEVER!! What YOU call filth, are the pillars of this Society… not the bigotry that YOU constantly post…. Freedom, Justice, and Equality are also the pillars of the faith of my denomination, and in fact MOST denominations… except for a few radical ones… Of course, maybe you are part of one of those radical denominations… See, I dont know that, because I dont know YOU anymore than YOU know ME….

    Now, do you really want to stay on the record as saying Equality and Freedom and Justice are FILTH??? Or do you need to maybe sleep on it first???

    Your choice, nimrod…. as you once again prove my contention that you are a BIGOT… errr…. the words that you post that is, show you to be a BIGOT….

  313. cosmos_originally
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:41 pm | Permalink

    bigotbawks posted February 27, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    As I said, I don’t care what homosexuals do privately, except for the damage it does to them with them being a part of the same society we all live in, but they can keep it out of my face and the faces of my children and grand-children because that too is filth like your mouth.
    ———————-

    Maybe some of bigotbawk’s children and grand-children are homosexual?

  314. Monkeyhawk
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:51 pm | Permalink

    “Boxlock20″ explained by louis ck.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd-pqRhskMI&feature=PlayList&p=8F6BAFB191BF41CC&index=10

  315. JimJohnson
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:59 pm | Permalink

    MCCLATCHY CO

    MNI

    Closed today at 49 Cents

  316. JimJohnson
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 12:00 am | Permalink

    Industry Outlook
    Publishing Industry
    Posted Fri Feb 27, 03:17 pm ET

    Our top Sell recommendation in the Publishing sector is McClatchy Company (MNI). As expected, McClatchy eliminated its dividend in January, shortly after a 50% cut in September proved insufficient.

    We expect more pain ahead for McClatchy. One-third of MNI’s revenues are in the hard-hit California and Florida markets. Circulation revenue is falling for the 3rd consecutive year, while ad revenue sinks disproportionately (down 21% in 4Q08). In our view, MNI can’t shrink its costs fast enough, posing a risk of tripping bank covenants if the revenue decline should accelerate and thereby raise leverage. Given the continued downward trend in earnings and cash flow, coupled with the company’s high debt-load (Debt/TTM EBITDA was 5.1x).

    http://www.zacks.com/stock/news/17811/Publishing+Industry

  317. JimJohnson
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 12:02 am | Permalink

    Not EVEN The ONE can save McClatchy.

    They were just a big EVIL CORPORATION anyway.

    No great loss.

  318. Posted February 28, 2009 at 12:08 am | Permalink

    Johnson must be collecting commissions for helping McClatchy go downhill… Did you help do the same thing for Rocky Mountain News that you do here?? Hmmmm???

  319. BlueJay
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 12:11 am | Permalink

    “I ask if maybe they had been dropped on their head or thrown as an infant which is what caused their mental deficiency.
    Don’t start your lying again now.”

    Oh that’s not true. I can go get the quote to prove it.

    How stupid, mean and evil would you like to look?

  320. Posted February 28, 2009 at 12:14 am | Permalink

    Get it Jay…

  321. JimJohnson
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 12:16 am | Permalink

    Not even the Chas posts about Freedom, Justice, and Equality COULD SAVE THE WICHITA EAGLE!

  322. BlueJay
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 12:21 am | Permalink

    “I don’t take pleasure in the pain of a friend of yours.”

    Of course you do and I could prove that too.

    But then,.everyone here knows what you are.

    Seek out a coalition of the similar. Might I suggest a reach around to Hank, Nathan, okobobserver and her alternic dondublin,.

  323. JimJohnson
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 12:21 am | Permalink

    I learned from THE ONE how to talk down the stock price of a company, and literally eliminate it from existence.

    McClatchy is a piece of cake. It’s demise is coming sooner by the day.

    SELL!

    SELL!

    SELL!

    Might find a lot of buyers for a 45 Cent stock issued by a company that has no chance for being profitable ever again. Like the US Gov’t for instance.

  324. JimJohnson
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 12:30 am | Permalink

    McClatchy

    Is

    Diving

    Deep

    Falling

    Fast

    To

    ZERO

    http://tinyurl.com/bl8eu8

  325. JimJohnson
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 12:36 am | Permalink

    Newspaper convention canceled amid industry woes
    Misery doesn’t love company: newspaper editors cancel annual convention to focus on survival
    Michael Liedtke, AP Business Writer
    Friday February 27, 2009, 6:33 pm EST

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Newspaper-convention-canceled-apf-14501168.html

    (Nobody wanted to go to the convention. Please remember to tip your local newspaper boy next time he comes collecting. THEY HOPE to have a convention next year.)

  326. JimJohnson
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 12:38 am | Permalink

    Bookmark this site for more news on McClatchy:

    http://seekingalpha.com/article/123260-newspaper-death-watch?source=yahoo

    Newspaper Death Watch
    by: Joel West February 27, 2009

  327. BlueJay
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 12:39 am | Permalink

    Hey “Jim” want a piece of me?

    Now no one knows who you used to be. And you are clearly miserable hiding out and all.

    Let’s rock. Or I’ll go back to discrediting Nathan and Bawks. I was on a search when I stumbled over you.

  328. BlueJay
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 12:50 am | Permalink

    “#
    Boxlock20
    Posted February 19, 2009 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    mxyzptlk,
    Did your mother intentionally throw you against the wall or to the floor out of disgust with what she produced? Or maybe pith you(to destroy the spinal cord or brain, for dummies like you)in hopes of saving the world from the worthless pipsqueak you turned out to be.
    To bad she failed at that too.

    Glad I found it again.

    That’s you bawks. And I can make you look worse.

    Of course, I am confident that you will beat me to it.

  329. JimJohnson
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 12:52 am | Permalink

    JR puts on his late night drunk act, just waiting for his boyfriend JR to chime in.

    Good grief. No wonder The Eagle is going broke.

  330. Monkeyhawk
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 12:59 am | Permalink

    About a week ago, CONs attacked me when I revealed Judd Gregg dropped out of contention for Commerce Secretary due to a financial scandal.

    http://tinyurl.com/bkyvdg

  331. JimJohnson
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 1:04 am | Permalink

    Goodnite everyone, and have sweet dreams of Hope.
    Each day going forward will be even more glorious then the last!

    Obama will soon build his own kingdom, right here on Earth!

    I am so inspired and filled with optimism at the hope the future now brings.

    Everynight before I go to sleep, I read this. Obama inspires me oh so much!

    “I should like to help everyone if possible; Christian, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, black men, white, red, and yellow. We all want to help one another. Human beings are like that. We want to live by each others’ happiness, not by each other’s misery. We don’t want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone. And the good earth is rich and can provide for everyone. The way of life can be free and beautiful, but we have lost the way.

    Greed has poisoned men’s souls; has barricaded the world with hate; we live in misery and bloodshed. We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in. Industry that gives abundance has left us in want. Our knowledge as made us cynical; our cleverness, hard and unkind. We think too much and feel too little. More than wealth we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. Modern communications and technology have brought us closer together. The very nature of these inventions cries out for the goodness in man; cries out for universal brotherhood; for the unity of us all.

    Even now my voice is reaching millions throughout the world, millions of despairing men, women, and little children, victims of a system that makes men torture and imprison innocent people. To those who can hear me, I say “Do not despair.”

    The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed, the bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress. The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.

    Soldiers! Don’t fight for slavery! Fight for liberty! In the seventeenth chapter of St. Luke, it’s written “the kingdom of God is within man”, not one man nor a group of men, but in all men! In you! You, the people, have the power, the power to create prosperity, the power to create happiness! You, the people, have the power to make this life free and beautiful, to make this life a wonderful adventure. Then in the name of democracy, let us use that power.

    Let us all unite. Let us fight for a new world, a decent world that will give men and women a chance to work, that will give youth a future and old age a security. By the promise of these things, brutes have risen to power. But they lie! They do not fulfill their promise. They never will! Evil rulers free themselves but they enslave the people! Now let us fight to fulfill that promise! Let us fight to free the world! To do away with national barriers! To do away with greed, with hate and intolerance! Let us fight for a world of reason, a world where science and progress will lead to all men’s happiness.

    Citizens of the world, in the name of democracy, let us all unite!

    People can you hear me? Wherever you are, look up! The clouds are lifting! The sun is breaking through! We are coming out of the darkness into the light! We are coming into a new world; a kind new world, where men and women will rise above their hate, their greed, and brutality. Look up! The soul of mankind has been given wings and at last he is beginning to fly. He is flying into the rainbow. Into the light of hope! Into the future! The glorious future! That belongs to you, to me, and to all of us. Look up, everyone! Look up!”

  332. Posted February 28, 2009 at 2:21 am | Permalink

    Nice catch Monkey…. Very nice….

  333. Boxlock20
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 7:35 am | Permalink

    “Freedom, Justice, and Equality”, in your posts? Nonsense!
    Chas that’s not what I see here. I see you promoting the very things the scriptures renounce. I see you not saying “your sins are forgiven, go and sin no more” as Jesus said, but instead you say “you have not sinned, continue living anyway you like”. There is a big difference.
    If you are trying to help people as you say and you are promoting a Christian way of living and think I need some that, just as you’ve said here, then tell me where your congregation is. I will come and listen. Isn’t that your mission, isn’t that what a real man of God is supposed to be about? Am I invited or excluded? If you are comfortable in what you are doing in your profession to help people then help me, let me know where I can come to know you and what your message is.

    If not they you are living a lie, your are not the same person and preacher here and there, you are a hypocrite.
    The choice is yours.

    JR, I ask a rhetorical question, nitwit. Do you know what that means.
    But I’m glad I gave you something to do with your worthless time for awhile.

  334. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 7:37 am | Permalink

    “Boxlock20
    Posted February 19, 2009 at 10:14 pm”

    how very christian….

  335. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 7:40 am | Permalink

    Boxlock20
    Posted February 27, 2009 at 11:27 pm | Permalink

    I know you Chas, I know you from the filth that pours forth from your mouth, the filth that reveals what’s in your soul.
    As I said, I don’t care what homosexuals do privately, except for the damage it does to them with them being a part of the same society we all live in
    _______________________________________

    How very christian…..

  336. Boxlock20
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 7:44 am | Permalink

    “Nice catch Monkey…. Very nice….”—the faux preacher

    No…it was a non-event.

    “Gregg said he violated no laws or Senate rules.
    By putting government money into the former base, Gregg helped it become a desirable place for employers to locate, making developments there more valuable.
    Gregg said he was proud to bring development and jobs to the former base.
    “When it closed as an air base it was a devastating event,” Gregg said. “It’s been the most successful redevelopment of a closed military base in the country.”
    Such efforts to convert defunct bases were encouraged by the federal government.
    Gregg told the AP the White House expressed no concerns about his involvement at Pease. He said he does not believe his investments there or his role in obtaining federal aid would have affected his consideration for the job.

    And just what does Barry’s porkulous economic plan do….give pork projects to dozens of Democrats districts and states.

  337. Boxlock20
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 7:45 am | Permalink

    Well chicken farmer, good morning, I see you’re are up with your chickens.
    And as sweet as always, ha.

  338. Posted February 28, 2009 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    Check out the following link to see a disturbing map of “Hate Groups” in the USA. http://www.splcenter.org/intel/map/hate.jsp
    Note that Kansas has eight recognized “hate groups” including one Racist Skinhead group (Midland Hammerskins) here in Wichita. Makes you feel proud doesn’t it?

  339. shavedclean
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    I don’t mind if your straight as long as you don’t act that way in public.

  340. shavedclean
    Posted February 28, 2009 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    After reading through a number of the inputs, I have 2 cents of my own to throw in at this point. Upon meeting someone you do not know, to say you do not see race or gender, unless your are physically blind, is a lie. We all notice that. The true question is, what do you do with the fact after you’ve noticed it? We, as a species are a unigue conglomeration. The fact each of us is different is where diversity comes from. Our differences are not to be feared, but celebrate. Just because you do not understand or agree does not make it bad, it just makes it different. I would like to continue but I fera I may get into the KUM-BI-YAH areana and I do NOT want to go there.

  341. dadman
    Posted March 1, 2009 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

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