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Environmental protection, in name only
The new head of the Environmental Protection Agency, Lisa Jackson, promised during her confirmation hearing to base agency policies and decisions on science, not politics: “If I am confirmed, I will administer with science as my guide, ” she said. “Political appointees will not compromise the integrity of EPA’s technical experts to advance particular regulatory outcomes.”
There are two reasons for skepticism. First, the EPA has long been a haven for zealots in career positions and for scientifically insupportable policies, so it has little integrity to compromise. It has a sordid history of incompetence, duplicity, and pandering to the most extreme factions of the environmental movement, all of which are likely to become even worse during the Obama administration. Second, Ms. Jackson herself is a veteran of 16 years at the EPA, during which she developed some of the agency’s most unscientific, wasteful, and dangerous regulations.
While at the EPA, Ms. Jackson worked on Superfund (officially the Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation and Liability Act), an ongoing EPA program intended to clean up and reduce the risk of toxic-waste sites. This program was originally conceived as a short-term project-$1.6 billion over five years to clean up some 400 sites (by law, at least one per state and, not coincidentally, about one per congressional district). But it has grown into one of the nation’s largest public-works projects: more than $30 billion spent on about 1,300 sites. Various studies have attempted to evaluate the effect of Superfund’s massive and costly cleanups, but the results are uncertain. Putting that another way, no beneficial results have been demonstrable after the expenditure of tens of billions of dollars. On the other hand, Superfund projects have caused a great deal of harm.
UC-Davis medical economist J. Paul Leigh has analyzed the occupational hazards of environmental cleanup projects. He concluded that the risks of fatality to cleanup workers-a dump-truck driver involved in a collision or a laborer run over by a bulldozer, for example-are considerably larger than the cancer risks to individual residents that might result from exposures to unremediated sites.
Even former EPA Administrator William Reilly admitted that Superfund’s risk-assessment methods are flawed. In a speech at Stanford University while a visiting lecturer, he discussed the excessive costs of basing cleanups on exaggerated worst-case scenarios:
The risks [Superfund] addresses are worst-case, hypothetical present and future risks to the maximum exposed individual, i.e., one who each day consumes two liters of water contaminated by hazardous waste. The program at one time aimed to achieve a risk range in its cleanups adequate to protect the child who regularly ate liters of dirt. . . . And it formerly assumed that all sites, once cleaned up, would be used for residential development, even though many lie within industrial zones. Some of these assumptions have driven clean-up costs to stratospheric levels and, together with liabilities associated with Superfund sites, have resulted in inner-city sites suitable for redevelopment remaining derelict and unproductive.
In his excellent book Breaking the Vicious Circle, written shortly before he became a U.S. Supreme Court justice, Stephen Breyer cites another, similar example of expensive, non-cost-effective regulation by the EPA: a ban on asbestos pipe, shingles, coating, and paper, which the most optimistic estimates suggested would prevent seven or eight premature deaths over 13 years-at a cost of approximately a quarter of a billion dollars. Breyer notes that such a vast expenditure can be expected to cause more deaths than it would prevent from the asbestos exposure, simply by reducing the resources available for other public amenities. Also, perversely, the very act of removing asbestos from existing structures poses greater risk from asbestos than simply leaving it where it is: During removal, long-dormant asbestos fibers are spread into the ambient air, where they expose workers and bystanders to heightened risk.
When the EPA banned asbestos in 1989, it was already an old product whose risks and benefits were well understood. Nevertheless, political pressures from environmental activists pushed the EPA to make a decision that turned out to be risk-increasing.
The EPA has long been more concerned with public relations than public health. An EPA scheme that was exposed in 2005 planned to divert research funds to pay outside public-relations consultants up to $5 million over five years to improve the website of its Office of Research and Development, conduct focus groups on how to polish the office’s image, and produce ghostwritten articles praising the agency “for publication in scholarly journals and magazines.”
It’s no surprise that EPA must buy good press. The agency is relentlessly inept and corrupt, and motivated by radical ideology rather than a genuine desire to protect the environment. It serves not the public interest, but the most extreme and doctrinaire environmentalists.
The EPA’s payola scheme is similar to the agency’s longstanding practice of buying influence by doling out hundreds of millions of dollars each year to non-profit organizations-money that, according to the inspector general and Government Accountability Office, is dispersed with no public notice, competition, or accountability. Specifically, they documented systematic malfeasance by regulators, including: (1) making grants to grantees who were unable to carry out the terms of the grants; (2) favoring an exclusive clique of grantees without opening the grants to competition; (3) funding “environmental” grants for activities that lack any apparent environmental benefit; and (4) failing to ensure that grantees performed the objectives identified in the grants.
Misconduct, mendacity, and conflicts of interest are just business as usual at the EPA. Even if Ms. Jackson were serious about bringing integrity and sound science to EPA, she would certainly be thwarted by Carol Browner, who will coordinate environmental policy throughout the government. An Al Gore acolyte who was EPA Administrator during the Clinton administration. Ms. Browner was the scourge of American innovation and technology. She never met a regulation she didn’t like, no matter how costly or worthless, and she permitted politics and pressure from environmental groups to make the EPA arguably the most scientifically challenged regulatory agency on the planet.
On her watch, for example, new regulatory policies toward the use of biotechnology were disastrous. Contrary to scientific consensus (and to what was supposed to be overarching federal policy), the agency imposed stultifying regulation on the use of the newest, most precise, most predictable gene-splicing techniques, thereby obstructing research on organisms for toxic-waste cleanup and others that could provide alternatives to agricultural fertilizers and pesticides. The EPA’s bizarre regulation of garden and crop plants as pesticides elicited condemnation from eleven scientific societies representing 80,000 biologists and food-science professionals, and a blue-ribbon panel convened by Browner herself accused the agency of abusing the mechanisms whereby it obtains external scientific advice and of adjusting science to fit policy instead of the other way around.
Obama’s elevation of Jackson and Browner exemplifies a venerable government tradition: No bad deed goes unrewarded.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OGZjNjEwYjJlYjkyYzFiMzgwNDU3NzUyZTI5ODMwMGQ=
This is interesting.
Turns out the CONs’ top climate science “expert” is a Rush Limbaugh propagandist!
http://tinyurl.com/bvzpfg
People miss so much by not watching CSPAN Rep. King of Iowa was giving a speech and he would make some good points. Then make a statement that made every good point overshadowed by a stupid point.
I cracked up when he said about the new deal that by the Government putting some many of the unemployed to work. That the private sector could not hire them even if they were not hiring at the time!
Reality be damned if there is a hypothetical to be sited
I watched / listened to C-Span for most of a day earlier in the week. It became obvious that the Republican Senators had no alternative ideas, no solutions. Their no vote was because America’s economy improving held no political advantage for their side.
The sides had been chosen.
If the economy was helped the Democrats won, if the economy wasn’t helped, the Republicans won.
Made me sick to my stomach.
Well linda, the way I see it, the side you have chosen have little confidence about their solutions. Why would they care if the Republicans voted no? The Democrats already have the votes to win. The Democrats needed Republican support so that when it fails they can say it was bipartisan.
The alternative ideas were ignored by Democrats.
You don’t sound like you have much confidence in the Demo plan if you’re that sick.
I wish we had sound effects for the blog.
Each con post should be tagged with the audio sound effect of a cranky baby.
The part that made me feel ill is how our lawmakers make decisions. The first decision is which side they are on. Then, they take a look to see what it is that they’ve already chosen to support or oppose.
You know what doesn’t cease to amaze me? The different ways we can ‘read’ the same words! I didn’t mention in my post whether I do or don’t support anything. But donndublin took meanings I never intended from those words. S/he read what they chose, based on something different than the words.
We often refuse to accept an idea merely becasue the tone of voice in which it has been expressed is unsympathetic to us.”
— Nietzsche
Where is my free $hit?
youtube.com/watch?v=TptsP4ryido
youtube.com/watch?v=Bg98BvqUvCc
We often refuse to accept an idea merely becasue the tone of voice in which it has been expressed is unsympathetic to us.”
— Nietzsche
And it couldn’t possibly be that this spending bill is an extremely bad idea. Not everyone has their Obama blinders on. Not everyone thinks like capnA (“If Obama wants it, it is good”). It seems as though you fit those lines now as well.
The Republicans in the Senate and Congress were elected by their constituants to act like Republicans. They did a pi$$ poor job of it over the last 8 years. Now they are actually being conservatives.
But that is a bad thing. Being conservative with your great grand children’s future is just intolerable because it goes against what Obama wants.
I’m with you, Linda. Watching our politicians at ‘work’ tends to make me a little queasy too.
I like to see Pelosi frustrated helps make my day, liberal witch. Dems says this is the bailout and that is the way it’s going to be. Shove it down our throats with their pet Billion dollar projects to buy votes.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0209/18702.html
I’m on a roll here, I could keep this up all day, but I won’t. Here we go again. Obama the housing savior, Praise to the Messiah. We pay for the largesse. What ever happen to responsibilty?
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02112009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/feeding_the_housing_entitlement_beast_154445.htm
So the city council wants to lower the property tax and increase the sales tax. Tax the poor to give to the rich. Property taxes are already tax-deductible, so people aren’t really paying it. Sales taxes aren’t tax-deductible (unless you pay out more than your deductible and only the rich do that). So this is just another means for the government to rob the poor to give to the rich, and it’s not the wealthy who are suffering in the Republican recession.
Heheheh. HAHAHAHAHAHHAAH
Joey the Scar-borough says maybe the folks on his show dont know what they’re talking about?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH. ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ya think?
http://crooksandliars.com/taxonomy/term/46
Wow, I sure like these…they apply so well to this administration.
“When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.” –French economist, statesman and author Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850)
“You don’t make the poor richer by making the rich poorer.” –Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
“Wars in old times were made to get slaves. The modern implement of imposing slavery is debt.” –American poet Ezra Pound (1885-1972)
Maggotpunk,
Property tax is deductable? Who are these people that you think are not paying it?
I am by no means rich and I help my roommate pay property tax every year.
My friends who own homes pay thousands of dollars in property tax every year and they are not rich and they don’t get to deduct those taxes away.
What are you talking about?
KFG, that was an eye opener, but not surprising. The Republicans will do anything to keep this from going through, but they’re p@@@ing on superman’s cape, and that will hardly translate into keeping their jobs.
The Democrats are basically in the cat birds seat here: if the stimulus doesn’t work, the Democrats can blame the Republicans for not getting involved; if it succeeds, the Republicans are DOA.
It would have been in both parties interests for the Republicans to be involved, but with the Republicans sudden interest in controlling spending (read re-elected), it’s too little-too late.
The Joey video makes that quite clear:-)
Nathan, this year on your federal income tax you can deduct the property tax that you pay on your home. I think it changed under the 2008 Housing Act (thank a Democrat). There’s more info at the IRS website:
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p17/ch22.html#en_US_publink100033972
Putin Warns US About Socialsm
The Right Perspective
February 11, 2009
Russian Prime Minister Vladamir Putin has said the US should take a lesson from the pages of Russian history and not exercise “excessive intervention in economic activity and blind faith in the state’s omnipotence”.
“In the 20th century, the Soviet Union made the state’s role absolute,” Putin said during a speech at the opening ceremony of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. “In the long run, this made the Soviet economy totally uncompetitive. This lesson cost us dearly. I am sure nobody wants to see it repeated.”
Sounding more like Barry Goldwater than the former head of the KGB, Putin said, “Nor should we turn a blind eye to the fact that the spirit of free enterprise, including the principle of personal responsibility of businesspeople, investors, and shareholders for their decisions, is being eroded in the last few months. There is no reason to believe that we can achieve better results by shifting responsibility onto the state.”
Putin also cautioned the US against using military Keynesianism to lift its economy out of recession, saying, “in the longer run, militarization won’t solve the problem but will rather quell it temporarily. What it will do is squeeze huge financial and other resources from the economy instead of finding better and wiser uses for them.” Putin’s comments come in sharp contrast to Russia’s own military buildup and expansion.
Putin also echoed the words of conservative maverick Ron Paul when he said, “we must assess the real situation and write off all hopeless debts and ‘bad’ assets. True, this will be an extremely painful and unpleasant process. Far from everyone can accept such measures, fearing for their capitalization, bonuses, or reputation. However, we would ‘conserve’ and prolong the crisis, unless we clean up our balance sheets.”
“The time for enlightenment has come. We must calmly, and without gloating, assess the root causes of this situation and try to peek into the future.”
“Property taxes are already tax-deductible, so people aren’t really paying it.”
maggot shows once again exactly what he doesn’t know.
You’ve always been able to duct your property taxes, both real estate and personal from your income for federal tax purposes.
That’s not the same as being able to deduct them from owed taxes.
“duct” should read ‘deduct’.
You can’t deduct your property taxes off what you owe in federal taxes, only from your declared income as a deduction. Big difference.
HLP
Posted February 11, 2009 at 6:03 am | Permalink
“The EPA’s bizarre regulation of garden and crop plants as pesticides elicited condemnation from eleven scientific societies representing 80,000 biologists and food-science professionals, and a blue-ribbon panel convened by Browner herself accused the agency of abusing the mechanisms whereby it obtains external scientific advice and of adjusting science to fit policy instead of the other way around.”
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Same old story with the AGW alarmists. Why should they have any credibility? The oil/gas/coal industry pale in comparison to the EPA/GE/Carbon Traders(CT) when it comes to funding and political clout.
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lindainks55
Posted February 11, 2009 at 8:40 am | Permalink
You know what doesn’t cease to amaze me? The different ways we can ‘read’ the same words! I didn’t mention in my post whether I do or don’t support anything. But donndublin took meanings I never intended from those words. S/he read what they chose, based on something different than the words.
We often refuse to accept an idea merely becasue the tone of voice in which it has been expressed is unsympathetic to us.”
— Nietzsche
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What are you trying to say linda? Are you suddenly becoming conservative in your old age?
I’ve never had any problem saying what I mean. If you have an honest question, I’d be willing to answer or try to clarify. Otherwise, continue reading whatever you chose no matter what the words are.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02112009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/feeding_the_housing_entitlement_beast_154445.htm
Renters can also make the deductions if their rent was increased due to RE tax hikes. So unless you live in a Title 8 government subsidized house, you have the same deduction for the tax increase as the owner.
So linda, do you or do you not support the stimulus bill? Do you want the Republicans to share the blame if the stimulus fails?
It no mystery that you support the party that wrote the bill. Am I wrong about that?
Hank posted February 11, 2009 at 6:03 am
donndublin posted February 11, 2009 at 10:40 am
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Hank and donndublin,
Check your calendar. The date to stop prevent Obama and his ‘green team’ from taking control was November 4, last year.
Is this what you Lefties voted for? Certainly some of you did. Scream at the .gov to stay out of your bedroom but what about your physicians office?
Ruin Your Health With the Obama Stimulus Plan: Betsy McCaughey
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Commentary by Betsy McCaughey
Feb. 9 (Bloomberg) — Republican Senators are questioning whether President Barack Obama’s stimulus bill contains the right mix of tax breaks and cash infusions to jump-start the economy.
Tragically, no one from either party is objecting to the health provisions slipped in without discussion. These provisions reflect the handiwork of Tom Daschle, until recently the nominee to head the Health and Human Services Department.
Senators should read these provisions and vote against them because they are dangerous to your health. (Page numbers refer to H.R. 1 EH, pdf version).
The bill’s health rules will affect “every individual in the United States” (445, 454, 479). Your medical treatments will be tracked electronically by a federal system. Having electronic medical records at your fingertips, easily transferred to a hospital, is beneficial. It will help avoid duplicate tests and errors.
But the bill goes further. One new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective. The goal is to reduce costs and “guide” your doctor’s decisions (442, 446). These provisions in the stimulus bill are virtually identical to what Daschle prescribed in his 2008 book, “Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis.” According to Daschle, doctors have to give up autonomy and “learn to operate less like solo practitioners.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_mccaughey&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs
Anyone watch NOVA last night? Very interesting.
Heckler posted February 11, 2009 at 11:19 am
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Hank AND okobserver AND Heckler,
cosmos_originally posted February 10, 2009 at 7:54 pm
okobserver posted February 10, 2009 at 6:59 pm
and
Hank posted February 10, 2009 at 10:52 am
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Hank AND okobserver,
cosmos_originally posted February 10, 2009 at 11:19 am
Is McCaughey’s health “commentary” more accurate than her 1994 criticisms?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betsy_McCaughey_Ross
An Omnipotent God can do anything
Luke 1
[The angel Gabriel tells Mary]
37 For with God nothing shall be impossible.
And 1 Chronicles
12 Both riches and honour come of thee [God], and thou reignest over all; and in thine hand is power and might; and in thine hand it is to make great, and to give strength unto all.
God is apparently not omnipotent
19 And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.
This has been your Fundy CON Biblical Contradiction d’ jour
Hank and donndublin,
Check your calendar. The date to stop prevent Obama and his ‘green team’ from taking control was November 4, last year.
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Good morning, cosmos!
I trust you are well.
I have checked my calendar, November 2, 2010. Enjoy it while you can!
Good point, MP.
The Democrats saved me about 300 in taxes one year by putting back in the tuition deduction that the ‘Pukes had taken out.
It was at the beginning of 2007, right after the Dems took control (barely) of Congress.
I love it.
Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists, and Obama supporters, et al:
We have stuck together since the late 1950’s, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know, we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but, sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot, and will not ever agree on what is right, so let’s just end it on friendly terms. We can smile, chalk it up to irreconcilable differences, and go our own way.
Here is a model separation agreement:
Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.
We don’t like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we’ll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA, and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore, and Rosie O’Donnell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them.)
We’ll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart, and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies, and illegal aliens. We’ll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO’s, and rednecks. We’ll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood .
You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we’ll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks, and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we’ll help provide them security. We’ll keep our Judeo-Christian values. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, and Shirley McClain. You can also have the U.N. But we will no longer be paying the bill.
We’ll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks, and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find. You can give everyone health care, if you can find any practicing doctors. We’ll continue to believe health care is a luxury and not a right. We’ll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I’m sure you’ll be happy to substitute Imagine, I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum By Ya, or We Are the World.
We’ll practice trickledown economics, and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you we’ll keep our history, our name, and our flag.
In the spirit of friendly parting, I’ll bet you ANWAR which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.
Sincerely,
John J. Wall.
Law Student and an American
P.S. Also, please take Barbara Streisand & Jane Fonda
You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore, and Rosie O’Donnell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them.)
LMAO
Cos–
Hank was the brilliant political mind who predicted that the Dems would lose more seats than they gained in 2006.
As we all know, the Dems took Congress in a historic rout.
Hank also predicted that Obama would lose.
So, judging from past performance, the fact that he thinks things will change in 2010 is great news for our side . . .
Wow, Boxlock wants to divide the country!
Hallelujah!
We get a the productive cities, and the CONs get all the subsidized agricultural farmland.
We get the manufacturing centers; they get extractive industries like coal mining and logging.
In short, LIB America becomes, finally, a modern industrial state rich in intellectual capital, and CON America becomes a pitiful third world country with only natural resources to be exploited by those with the know-how.
I’ll take that deal in a heartbeat.
Hank posted February 11, 2009 at 11:34 am
I have checked my calendar, November 2, 2010. Enjoy it while you can!
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I will enjoy the next four years, Hank! And the four years after that, and so on . . .
Enjoy your weak arm flailing Hank, futilely trying to stop the needed environmental protections that Obama will put into effect.
Thought for the day–
“What Republicans fear most is that we may really begin fighting for what we believe — the fiscally responsible, socially progressive values for which Democrats have always stood and fought.” Howard Dean
I deduct my property taxes. Is it that amazing and unbelievable?
“socially progressive values”
That scares the living hell out of most Democrats too.
Especially in Kansas.
bigotbawks,
What does the acronym “ANWAR” represent?
Brilliant analysis from a poster at — hell, yes — Democratic Underground:
Why do tax cuts for the poor seem to be anathema to Republicans, even though targeting tax cuts disproportionately toward the poor surely would provide the greatest stimulus to the economy?
An idea crystallized in my mind last night after years of thinking about the evil political genius of Ronald Reagan, Alan Greenspan, and David Stockman. The idea is this: much of the Republican political hold on poor working people since Reagan may have come from the very payroll taxes Reagan shifted onto them massively (see below the line in this post), while cutting marginal income tax rates for the wealthiest by two thirds. After Reagan and company shifted the tax burden from the vast incomes of rich people to the meager pay of the poor, the poor would become much more susceptible to Republican anti-tax, anti-government propaganda. But, unlike the rich, the poor never would get relief from their hefty tax increases. This cynical political ploy may have been part of what Stockman called his “SHIFT AND SHAFT” fiscal strategy.
Look carefully at the Republican tax cut plan John Mcain ran on, and that Boehner has adopted. (see link)
They would change the current 15 percent rate to 10 percent, and cut the current 10 percent rate to 5 percent. Those currently in the 15 percent and 10 percent brackets would get something back, but only those currently above the 15 percent bracket could get the maximum amount ($3400 a year for a married couple filing jointly). The poorest filers of income tax returns–those who currently get the maximum Earned Income Tax Credit–would get NOTHING.
Compare the Obama refundable $1000 tax credit for working families in the bill going through Congress. A flat $1000 credit is the highest percentage of income for the poorest, who cannot afford to save much and would spend most of what they’d get immediately. Obama’s plan is targeted on the people most likely to stimulate the economy with spending, while the Republican plan would give the most to those who’d likely spend the least. IMO the Republican economic wrong-headedness on stimulating the economiy may stem mainly from their fear that tax relief for the poor would make them less susceptible to Republican anti-tax, anti-government propaganda.
more at link
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×8186612
PETA protests,comparingthe AKC to the KKK because they both want pure bloodlines??? I suppose they want to let dogs breed with their true doggy love.
Those folks need to get a life.
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By Gene Farris, USA TODAY
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals knows how to grab attention. And show off its laundry.
The animal rights group, which every year stages a protest at the Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show, had two of its members dress in Ku Klux Klan garb outside Madison Square Garden on Monday.
Their goal, according to a post on the PETA website, was to draw a parallel between the KKK and the American Kennel Club. “Obviously it’s an uncomfortable comparison,” PETA spokesman Michael McGraw told the Associated Press.
But the AKC is trying to create a “master race” when it comes to pure-bred dogs, he added. “It’s a very apt comparison.”
The group passed out brochures implying the Klan and AKC have the goal of “pure bloodlines” in common.
donndublin
Posted February 11, 2009 at 11:05 am | Permalink
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02112009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/feeding_the_housing_entitlement_beast_154445.htm
Renters can also make the deductions if their rent was increased due to RE tax hikes. So unless you live in a Title 8 government subsidized house, you have the same deduction for the tax increase as the owner.
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Nope, that is incorrect, try again…
One can still deduct sales tax (I think until 2009) if you use schedule A for itemized deductions.
In Kansas, one may deduct food taxes.
Keeping receipts in both instances is quite important.
“So linda, do you or do you not support the stimulus bill? Do you want the Republicans to share the blame if the stimulus fails?
It no mystery that you support the party that wrote the bill. Am I wrong about that?” — donndublin
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I definitely support the Democratic Party!
Of course, so far, we have no ‘bill.’ We have two bills that need to be reconciled.
I definitely support doing something to stimulate the economy, and quickly! There aren’t alternative ideas or solutions being put on the table. What we’ve got is what we’ll get.
I don’t think any member of Congress, no matter the party, doesn’t realize how serious this is and I’m feeling good that a stimulus bill will pass. Will it be the best it could? I don’t know, but I doubt it. And, it’s a sure bet it won’t be even the best of what the sides could write if they worked together, because they aren’t going to do that to any extent.
The sides have been chosen. The Republicans are betting the possiblity of regaining the majority on the economy not improving, the Democrats are betting a debt that generations will be sadled with on the economy improving. Someone will be right, someone will be wrong. But no one (well maybe three Senators) is going to go outside the lines that have been drawn, they aren’t going to attempt compromise. Because they see that as compromising their chances of being the party that made the correct bet.
It doesn’t matter what I think. I’ve written to most of them and sincerely asked that partisanship be put aside, that their powers be used for the good of Americans, that they act quickly and put their ideologies aside. I also don’t think those letters will mean anything.
It’s a crapshoot. If the economy improves the Democrats win, if the economy doesn’t improve the Republicans win.
As disappointed as I am in all members of Congress I think the political position of the Democrats is best. Economy improves it was the stimulus bill they voted for, if it doesn’t they at least can say, “we tried.” (They will add how badly the Republicans fought any and all solutions.)
If the economy doesn’t improve we’re all hurt badly, and if it does, the Republicans who didn’t support the stimulus will be able to say,
“I voted against the bill that passed anyway and saved the economy.
Oh, I think we can just divide up the country between red states and blues states. Since the red states love the policies of the repukes, it stands to reason they would want to keep the states where voters keep electing and re-electing them.
Of course, things have changed since the 2004 elections, but I’m glad to go back to that dividing line. It means this:
Dear Red States…
We’ve decided we’re leaving. We intend to form our own country, and
we’re taking the other Blue States with us.
In case you aren’t aware, that includes Hawaii, Oregon,Washington,
Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and all the Northeast. We
believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially
to the people of the new country of New California.
To sum up briefly: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states.
We get stem cell research and the best beaches.
We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Dollywood.
We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom.
We get Harvard. You get Ole’ Miss.
We get 85 percent of America’s venture capital and entrepreneurs. You
get Alabama.
We get two-thirds of the tax revenue, you get to make the red states
pay their fair share.
Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the
Christian Coalition’s, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a
bunch of single moms.
Please be aware that Nuevo California will be pro-choice and
anti-war, and we’re going to want all our citizens back from Iraq at
once. If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They have
kids they’re apparently willing to send to their deaths for no
purpose, and they don’t care if you don’t show pictures of their
children’s caskets coming home. We do wish you success in Iraq, and
hope that the WMDs turn up, but we’re not willing to spend our
resources in Bush’s Quagmire.
With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80 percent
of the country’s fresh water, more than 90 percent of the pineapple
and lettuce, 92 percent of the nation’s fresh fruit, 95 percent of
America’s quality wines (you can serve French wines at state dinners)
90 percent of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most
of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and
condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools, plus Harvard, Yale,
Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.
With the Red States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88
percent of all obese Americans (and their projected health care
costs), 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes, nearly 100 percent of the
tornadoes, 90 percent of the hurricanes, 99 percent of all Southern
Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh,
Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.
We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.
Additionally, 38 percent of those in the Red states believe Jonah was
actually swallowed by a whale, 62 percent believe life is sacred
unless we’re discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44 percent say
that evolution is only a theory, 53 percent that Saddam was involved
in 9/11 and 61 percent of you crazy b*****ds believe you are people
with higher morals then we lefties.
By the way, we’re taking the good pot, too. You can have that dirt
weed they grow in Mexico.
Peace out,
Blue States”
And my own addition?
PPS–We’re taking Micheal Phelps too!
You can have A-Rod.
Hank posted February 11, 2009 at 9:15 am
I’m with you, Linda. Watching our politicians at ‘work’ tends to make me a little queasy too.
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Hank,
Even your hero, Sen. Inhofe (R-Oil)? You didn’t enjoy watching his 13 speeches (each about 1 hour long) rabidly denying AGW science.
Be honest Hank. . . did you burn those videos to DVD? And memorize them?
The Republicans are betting the possiblity of regaining the majority on the economy not improving,
Which Republican senator or congressperson told you this?
CapnAmerica
Posted February 11, 2009 at 11:55 am “Howard Dean”???
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Is that the best you could come up with. Not only do you show your ignorance of scriptural context, you reference a quote from Howard Dean???
CapnAmerica
Posted February 11, 2009 at 12:00 pm | Permalink
Brilliant analysis from a poster at — hell, yes — Democratic Underground:
Why do tax cuts for the poor seem to be anathema to Republicans, even though targeting tax cuts disproportionately toward the poor surely would provide the greatest stimulus to the econom
An idea crystallized in my mind last night after years of thinking about the evil political genius of Ronald Reagan,…
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“evil political genius”
Well, that’s where I stopped reading. Should I be surprised that CapnDenmark thinks a fellow leftist wacko is brilliant.
Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
Benjamin Franklin
Thanks for that great post, farmgrrl!
After the split, let’s just travel from beach to beach, blue state to blue state. We’re going to find some interesting folks and great conversations!
You called it — The traveling sisterhood of the cyberpants!
outlander–
You should have kept reading–it says that RepubliCONs are all for tax breaks for the rich.
But to give tax breaks to the poor–and yes they do pay taxes (payroll taxes)–would not keep them needy enough to want RepubliCON tax cuts.
I totally agree.
lindainks55
Posted February 11, 2009 at 12:20 pm
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*weg*
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEH!
CJM asks if my Biblical Contradiction d’ jour was the best I could come up.
Actually, no.
But since I’m posting one a day for the foreseeable future, I thought it good enough . . .
A comic on Comedy Central pointed out that his priest used to tell him that homosexuality was a sin because it was “unnatural.”
He wondered why then they seemed to believe in talking snakes and people turned into pillars of salt.
You Go, Captain!
On many of the points that the Republicans in the Congress and Senate are trying to make I would agree with. Their problem is both being truthful and sticking to the real facts. The claim of some of the programs in the bill are without end. It not supported because the programs they point to have sun sets put in them.
Their statements are solely based on hypothetical, the arguments are “once the cat is let out of the bag!”.
But there is no hypothetical in the program it has a set end so after that it would have to be approved again.
Plus they over use such hypothetical that are not based on any reality. I stated one in my earlier post.
If private sector WAS hiring then there would not have been the numbers of the unemployed for the Government to have hired. King did make a valid statement when he said that the Government taxes productive. You make a dollar it is taxed, you save a dollar it is taxed, you make a dividend it is taxed.
But then he turns around and goes to a hypothetical of a worker having done his 40 hours will turn down over time because it would effect the rate he is taxed on. A salesman whom works on commission, turns down more sales because it would put them in a higher tax bracket. Such a ridiculous hypothetical cancels out the sound observation he made just before this.
Heh. Actually, I think “celibacy” is pretty unnatural, but I’m not going to outlaw it . . .
CapnAmerica
Posted February 11, 2009 at 11:44 am
Capt the last I recall that happening it end in a Civil war? But hey we did win that! Damn it XXX I know the South will rise again! It was the war of Northern aggression.
CapnAmerica
Posted February 11, 2009 at 12:24 pm | Permalink
A comic on Comedy Central pointed out that his priest used to tell him that homosexuality was a sin because it was “unnatural.”
He wondered why then they seemed to believe in talking snakes and people turned into pillars of salt.
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That’s funny. Ignorant and out of context but, funny.
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CJM
Posted February 11, 2009 at 12:02 pm | Permalink
donndublin
Posted February 11, 2009 at 11:05 am | Permalink
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02112009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/feeding_the_housing_entitlement_beast_154445.htm
Renters can also make the deductions if their rent was increased due to RE tax hikes. So unless you live in a Title 8 government subsidized house, you have the same deduction for the tax increase as the owner.
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Nope, that is incorrect, try again…
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Oops my bad, wrong link and misread. It is in NON deductible column.
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cosmos_originally
Posted February 11, 2009 at 11:17 am | Permalink
Hank posted February 11, 2009 at 6:03 am
donndublin posted February 11, 2009 at 10:40 am
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Hank and donndublin,
Check your calendar. The date to stop prevent Obama and his ‘green team’ from taking control was November 4, last year.
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So cosMo you don’t deny that the EPA is more about politics than science and they waste $$billions to support on their extremist agenda “whereby it obtains external scientific advice and of adjusting science to fit policy instead of the other way around.”
What do you want us to do, say SIEG HEIL!! like you do?
“donndublin
Posted February 11, 2009 at 12:56 pm | Permalink
…the EPA is more about politics than science and they waste $$billions to support on their extremist agenda “whereby it obtains external scientific advice and of adjusting science to fit policy instead of the other way around.”
That was 100% the case for the past 8 years. What they will be like during the next 4 remains to be seem.
CapnAmerica
Posted February 11, 2009 at 12:23 pm | Permalink
CJM asks if my Biblical Contradiction d’ jour was the best I could come up.
Actually, no.
But since I’m posting one a day for the foreseeable future, I thought it good enough . . .
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Actually, that was only a part of my question. But, I should have realized that asking two questions in one posting may have been too much for you to keep up with. I also questioned your later reference to Howard bde,bde,bDean.
Psalm 14:1
[ For the director of music. Of David. ] The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good.
After Reagan and company shifted the tax burden from the vast incomes of rich people to the meager pay of the poor, the poor would become much more susceptible to Republican anti-tax, anti-government propaganda. But, unlike the rich, the poor never would get relief from their hefty tax increases. This cynical political ploy may have been part of what Stockman called his “SHIFT AND SHAFT” fiscal strategy.
When the Kemp-Roth tax package took effect in 1981, my paychecks got smaller, and my boss’s got larger, due precisely to that increase in payroll taxes.
Enough said. Well, except for Stockman stating also that the plan was a “Trojan horse to benefit the wealthy.”
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=93758
As usual kfg’s post of February 11, 2009 at 12:04 pm provides nothing in support of most of what she posts.
It does not give credit for her cut and paste and so is just more flatulence from her sorry saggy a/ ss. Which is what we’ve come to expect.
lindainks55
Posted February 11, 2009 at 12:04 pm | Permalink
If the economy doesn’t improve we’re all hurt badly, and if it does, the Republicans who didn’t support the stimulus will be able to say,
“I voted against the bill that passed anyway and saved the economy.
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Linda so did 11 eleven Democrats in the house.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/President44/Story?id=6748037&page=1
Could it be that those eleven democrats are listening to their constituents?
I speak con too, JR.
Translation?
Waaaaaaaaaaa. Waaaaaaaaaaa.
More money dumped into a stagnant economy.
What happens when the dollar is devalued during stagnation?
I’m remembering the Carter years…
Treasury Unveils Massive New Financial Stability Plan
http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/government/geithner-pledges-forceful-attack-banking-crisis/
If homosexuality is unnatural, why is it found throughout the animal kingdom? And what, precisely, is unnatural about it?
Is there a secret facility in Area 51 that creates homosexuals in a laboratory?
Rage, SHHHHHHHHHHH!
The evangelical preachers will be raiding the newly created stock at Area 51.
And the catholic priests will be right behind them, uh, so to speak….
“Why do tax cuts for the poor seem to be anathema to Republicans,”—Capn
Because they aren’t paying income taxes to begin with, they are getting a free ride as it is, so it becomes simply a socialist redistribution of income. Taking from those producing and paying taxes and giving it to those that aren’t to gain their political favor and cement in the Dims political power at the expense of the country long term.
Is there a secret facility in Area 51 that creates homosexuals in a laboratory?
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No. Area 66.
And the catholic priests will be right behind them, uh, so to speak….
LOL!
“It became obvious that the Republican Senators had no alternative ideas, no solutions.” – lindainks
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Linda, you seem to be the one “reading whatever you chose no matter what the words are.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN0142074920090201
Gosh, given the cranky poodle dancing today, who wants to bet that in yesterday’s market tantrum, the grandkids’ college fund took a big hit?
Dance poodle, dance!
I love how I can get him two steppin’ on his hind legs…
I originated in the prefered Area 69….
The Dollar was up yesterday. Dont know yet about today.
I wonder which area creates the tube sox starchers?
“One is the loneliest number…”
Rage
Posted February 11, 2009 at 1:15 pm | Permalink
If homosexuality is unnatural, why is it found throughout the animal kingdom? And what, precisely, is unnatural about it?
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One place to reference that homosexual acts are un-natural could be the typical reference to Sodom and Gomorrah but, that’s Old Testament and some may think that we do not live under the “old law.” In the New Testament, the Apostle Paul wrote: and I know this may be some often overlooked scriptures (CapnAmerica and ksfarmgrrl)
Romans 1:25-27 (King James Version)
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshiped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
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brian_nuevo
Posted February 11, 2009 at 1:00 pm | Permalink
“donndublin
Posted February 11, 2009 at 12:56 pm | Permalink
…the EPA is more about politics than science and they waste $$billions to support on their extremist agenda “whereby it obtains external scientific advice and of adjusting science to fit policy instead of the other way around.”
That was 100% the case for the past 8 years. What they will be like during the next 4 remains to be seem.
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brian, you have an 8 year limited memory. It’s like that since it for much longer than eight years.
“An Al Gore acolyte who was EPA Administrator during the Clinton administration. Ms. Browner was the scourge of American innovation and technology. She never met a regulation she didn’t like, no matter how costly or worthless, and she permitted politics and pressure from environmental groups to make the EPA arguably the most scientifically challenged regulatory agency on the planet”
TARP II
Read it and weap.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_bills&docid=f:h1424enr.txt.pdf
Fairy tales, fairy tales, fairy tales.
And quoted as if they were true…
I wonder what the gospel according to the Brothers Grimm would have to say on the subject?
Here’s a little more of “memory lane.” From the Harvard Crimson, circa 1981 (link above):
But these other problems pale by comparison to the damage done by Stockman’s revelations. By saying that “supply siders have gone too far…they created this nonpolitical view of the economy, where you are going to have big changes and abrupt turns, and their happy vision of this world of growth and no inflation and no pain.” Stockman agreed with those critics who have contended all along that Reagan’s program for huge defense outlays coupled with tax cuts and social service reductions is a prescription for budget deficits and inequity.
TARP II
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What’s that I smell?
Oh yes, it’s the market taking a dive in the crapper!
“donndublin
Posted February 11, 2009 at 1:31 pm | Permalink
brian, you have an 8 year limited memory. It’s like that since it for much longer than eight years…”
So you concur that it was like that for the last eight year, though. I do not remember before that so I don’t like to comment on it.
donndublin posted February 11, 2009 at 12:56 pm
What do you want us to do, say SIEG HEIL!! like you do?
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No, I want you to learn about environmental, and climate science. But I doubt very much that you are able to learn.
Rage
Posted February 11, 2009 at 1:15 pm | Permalink
If homosexuality is unnatural, why is it found throughout the animal kingdom?
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This line of reasoning is unsustainable. If seemingly “homosexual” acts among animals are in accordance with animal nature, then parental killing of offspring and intra-species devouring are also in accordance with animal nature. Bringing man into the equation complicates things further. Are we to conclude that filicide and cannibalism are according to human nature?
“ANTI
Posted February 11, 2009 at 1:17 pm | Permalink
Is there a secret facility in Area 51 that creates homosexuals in a laboratory?
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No. Area 66.”
I thought it was 3 doors down from there
CJM, I hate to break this to you, but in America we don’t pass laws based on someone’s interpretation of scripture (well, okay, we’re not supposed to do that!).
Thanks for admitting that there is no factual basis for calling homosexuality unnatural.
“CJM
Posted February 11, 2009 at 1:36 pm | Permalink
… Are we to conclude that filicide and cannibalism are according to human nature?”
Yes, they are part of human nature.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted February 11, 2009 at 1:32 pm
I only referenced the very same book as your buddy Capn did. What’s wrong? Is truth only acceptable when it agrees with your viewpoint. Truth is truth, there’s no denying it, no matter what you say. It’s like looking in the mirror and seeing your own reflection. Hard to deal with, isn’t it.
“brian_nuevo
Posted February 11, 2009 at 1:40 pm | Permalink
“CJM
Posted February 11, 2009 at 1:36 pm | Permalink
… Are we to conclude that filicide and cannibalism are according to human nature?”
Yes, they are part of human nature.”
However, there are valid societal reasons why they are discouraged and outlawed.
Unlike, homosexuality, where there is no valid societal reason (outside of Biblical reasons) why it should be forbidden.
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted February 11, 2009 at 1:27 pm | Permalink
I originated in the prefered Area 69….
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Rage and kfc are proof that they are like animals.
“Dance poodle, dance!” translation: lick poodle lick.
“HEHEHEHEHEHEHEH!”
Rage
Posted February 11, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Proverbs 12:15
The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.
donndublin,
And thank you for again proving Godwin’s Law.
If seemingly “homosexual” acts among animals are in accordance with animal nature, then parental killing of offspring and intra-species devouring are also in accordance with animal nature.
Follow the bouncing ball as CJM changes the subject.
It’s been shown that rape is also prevalent in the natural world. That shows that creatures engage in it besides humans. It tells us nothing about the morality of it.
So, apparently, you concede that homosexuality is natural, but raise the ante by making an unsupported moral judgment, by implicitly comparing to all sorts of odious things.
But you have not justified the comparison.
Area 77 is better. . . you get ate more.
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Rage
Posted February 11, 2009 at 1:39 pm | Permalink
CJM, I hate to break this to you, but in America we don’t pass laws based on someone’s interpretation of scripture (well, okay, we’re not supposed to do that!).
Thanks for admitting that there is no factual basis for calling homosexuality unnatural.
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Homosexuality being a learned or a natural process is still under debate.
However, fudge packing is hardly what I call natural – it’s disgusting.
cosmos_originally
Posted February 11, 2009 at 1:50 pm | Permalink
Area 77 is better. . . you get ate more.
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You’re naughty cosmos, LOL.
Following Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner’s presentation of the White House financial rescue plan, the Rasmussen Consumer Index fell a point-and-a-half to 56.6. That’s another all-time record low, surpassing the mark set ten days ago. During 2008, record lows for consumer confidence were recorded on a regular basis. The Consumer Index, which measures the economic confidence of consumers on a daily basis, is down three points from a week ago and two points from a month ago.
“Regular
Posted February 11, 2009 at 1:51 pm | Permalink
…fudge packing is hardly what I call natural – it’s disgusting.”
The fine folks at Cero’s would disagree with you. They pack all sorts of fudge, chocolate too, and it is delicious.
Truth is truth, there’s no denying it, no matter what you say. It’s like looking in the mirror and seeing your own reflection. Hard to deal with, isn’t it.—CJM
Oh how true, but they feel if they can convince enough people that what they are, and what they are doing, is normal and acceptable it will make it so, even in their own mind, where they know it isn’t.
Simply look at the littered relationship past of the resident les/ bian here. Lost marriage, lost past relationships by her own admission, a bitter defensive person generally.
Pretty sad but not surprising.
Oh, and brian, there is no valid societal reason for homosexuality either, at least for society to recognize it as marriage.
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brian_nuevo
Posted February 11, 2009 at 1:36 pm | Permalink
So you concur that it was like that for the last eight year, though. I do not remember before that so I don’t like to comment on it.
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brian, most EPA staff are career people but not all.
During today’s hearing, Senator James Inhofe (R-OK), Ranking Member of the Environment and Public Works Committee, confronted Stephen Johnson, Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), with a threatening e-mail from a group of which EPA is currently a member. The e-mail threatens to “destroy” the career of a climate skeptic. Michael T. Eckhart, president of the environmental group the American Council on Renewable Energy (ACORE), wrote in an email on July 13, 2007 to Marlo Lewis, senior fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI):
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=04373015-802A-23AD-4BF9-C3F02278F4CF
Boxlock20
Posted February 11, 2009 at 2:00 pm | Permalink
…Oh, and brian, there is no valid societal reason for homosexuality either, at least for society to recognize it as marriage.”
The default for society should be to allow things unless there is a reason not to. I don’t want the government dictating what I can and can’t do unless there is a reason for them to, do you?
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brian_nuevo
Posted February 11, 2009 at 1:40 pm | Permalink
“CJM
Posted February 11, 2009 at 1:36 pm | Permalink
… Are we to conclude that filicide and cannibalism are according to human nature?”
Yes, they are part of human nature.
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brian-nuevo is a poster boy for NAMBL.
“Oh how true, but they feel if they can convince enough people that what they are, and what they are doing, is normal and acceptable”
They also SEEM to be winning more folks to their way of thinking than you fundy christians are.They are better people than you.
Better go easy on the prejudice. Some day, perhaps quite soon, it could be people like you discriminated against.I don’t have a problem with that. But you might.
“donndublin
Posted February 11, 2009 at 2:03 pm | Permalink
brian, most EPA staff are career people but not all. ”
So you are you saying you agree that during the past 8 years most decisions made at the EPA were based on policy rather than science?
“BlueJay
Posted February 11, 2009 at 2:08 pm | Permalink
Better go easy on the prejudice. Some day, perhaps quite soon, it could be people like you discriminated against.I don’t have a problem with that. But you might.”
kind of like the judge not lest ye be judged yourself axiom…
donndublin posted February 11, 2009 at 2:03 pm
The e-mail threatens to “destroy” the career of a climate skeptic.
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AGW skeptics like Marlo Lewis at Competitive Enterprise Institute “destroy” their own careers, by ignoring climate science, and spreading falsehoods.
“It is my intention to destroy your career as a liar. If you produce one more editorial against climate change, I will launch a campaign against your professional integrity. I will call you a liar and charlatan to the Harvard community of which you and I are members. I will call you out as a man who has been bought by Corporate America. Go ahead, guy. Take me on.”
Does the above sound like a blogger here???
Naaahhhh…
LMFAO. Talk about timing…
“The default for society should be to allow things unless there is a reason not to. I don’t want the government dictating what I can and can’t do unless there is a reason for them to, do you?”—brian
brian, no one, at least me, is is advocating getting into anyone’s life or their relationships. That’s their business.
Neither does society owe homosexual relationships anything, least of all the equivalent standing of traditional marriage as it has been defined for thousands of years.
Homosexuals can engage in whatever they want, it’s a personal decision, but not marriage.
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brian_nuevo
Posted February 11, 2009 at 2:10 pm | Permalink
“BlueJay
Posted February 11, 2009 at 2:08 pm | Permalink
Better go easy on the prejudice. Some day, perhaps quite soon, it could be people like you discriminated against.I don’t have a problem with that. But you might.”
kind of like the judge not lest ye be judged yourself axiom…
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No it’s more like; “It’s alright for the left to to be bigots.”
Wow, follow donn’s link. Looks like this is a frequent issue.
Hey, where’s my free $hit?
“Boxlock20
Posted February 11, 2009 at 2:16 pm | Permalink
…Neither does society owe homosexual relationships anything, least of all the equivalent standing of traditional marriage as it has been defined for thousands of years.”
If someone petitions for a law to be changed, there needs to be a more valid reason not to grant that petition than “that is the way it has always been.”
http://www.ltgovbryant.com/news/2009/Feb/protectinggunownerrights.html
SolDevVB posted February 11, 2009 at 2:16 pm
LMFAO. Talk about timing…
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Yeah, LOL about the timing!
SolDevVB attacks people who try to stop AGW deniers from spreading lies about climate science.
Color me shocked. Cos finds no problems with the emails.
You ever find a law declaring CO2 a pollutant?
Oh, and please do show where I attacked.
“And that is why the single most important part of this Economic Recovery and Reinvestment Plan is the fact that it will save or create up to 4 million jobs, because that’s what America needs most right now.” Barack Hussein Obama 2/9/2009
So which is it? Will Obama CREATE 4 million jobs?
OR,
Will Obama SAVE 4 million jobs?
How will we know if 4 million jobs were saved?
It’s easy to see if 4 million jobs are created. But how will we know if 4 million jobs are saved?
Could it be that Obama has set-up One Unmeasurable Criteria for Success?
That way, we’ll never know if HIS plan worked or not.
The Titanic hit the iceburg, and was rapidly sinking. Something had to be done immediately.
Barack Hussein Obama stood at the bow of the Titanic with his arms spread wide and held skyward, facing the panicked crowd.
Obama loudly proclaimed:
“Do Not Worry! Do Not Be Afraid!
I am here to Save You!
I will Save or Create 10 Lifeboats.
So, Don’t Panic on the Titanic!”
The crowd of 2,000 passengers gasped in great disappointment as they realized how most of them would drown with only 10 lifeboats.
They realized, they would have to save themselves.
Heheh. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Dance poodles!
They do love to display the full plumage of their bigotry.
And tautology.
I wonder what the Brothers Grimm would say about that?
A deal has been reached on the economic stimulus. Apparently, three Republicans decided to join the Democrats in helping our country to recover from the bush years. Con ranter Sean Hannity wants them kicked out of the party.
We’ll take them. That gives our side what, 62 votes?
We’re gonna get all SORTS of good stuff done!
We’re gonna get all SORTS of good stuff done!
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Pipe down Ryann, YOU aren’t going to do a damn thing and you know it.
“Con ranter Sean Hannity wants them kicked out of the party.”
You can have them. Especially the two chicks.
“If someone petitions for a law to be changed, there needs to be a more valid reason not to grant that petition than “that is the way it has always been.”–brian
Ah, no…there needs to be a reason to change it, and there isn’t, at least one that benefits society in any way.
Homosexuals are trying to convince society that their lifestyle is normal, and in doing so convince themselves, which is simply a lie.
They can and should live their lives however they wish, but don’t try and force that as being normal on society in general. If they are comfortable with it then fine. But live with it for what it is.
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SolDevVB
Posted February 11, 2009 at 2:27 pm | Permalink
Color me shocked. Cos finds no problems with the emails.
You ever find a law declaring CO2 a pollutant?
I love the sound of con angst and aging.
“I love the sound of con angst and aging.”—the Blowfish
You’ve got nothing BlowJ*b.
And frankly it tickles me because it means the universe is working just as it should, just as we’ve been taught, ha.
Where are you in getting to me, I want to be famous, as you said you would do. Were you just Blowfishing there too?
You know, that is a good point. With billions being spent on liberal pet projects, what is going to be the measure of success for the economy? Which projects worked and which didn’t.
Spending a couple trillion (TARP II and this new spending bill) will obfuscate the results terribly.
The truth is out about the Knoxville church shooter.
He was out to kill Liberals.
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/knoxville-church-shooters-manifesto
An excerpt –
“Know this if nothing else: This was a hate crime. I hate the damn left-wing liberals. There is a vast left-wing conspiracy in this country & these liberals are working together to attack every decent & honorable institution in the nation, trying to turn this country into a communist state. Shame on them….”
Praise Jesus.
these liberals are working together to attack every decent & honorable institution in the nation.
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pretty much.
Boxlock said:
Neither does society owe homosexual relationships anything, least of all the equivalent standing of traditional marriage as it has been defined for thousands of years. Homosexuals can engage in whatever they want, it’s a personal decision, but not marriage.
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Traditional marriage for thousands of years…
Would that be the traditional Biblical story of Jacob and his 2 wives or Solomon and his multituditudinous number of wives and concubines to name a couple of what we would not call non-traditional situations.
oops, wrong spelling for multitudinous.
another oops–should have been “…of what we would call non-traditional situations.”
The government’s $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program, and proposed economic stimulus legislation, likely will result in increased criminal activity, said Neil Barofsky, special inspector general of the TARP program, in prepared testimony.
“History teaches us that an outlay of so much money in such a short period of time will inevitably draw those seeking to profit criminally,” he said.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aitpF.1mEoTc&refer=us
I wonder if a picture of a gay wedding works on some christians like a cross works on vampires?
Back! Back! Back up the steps of your church!
A pretty good idea, but just how much of your personal information does Google need?
http://www.dailytech.com/Googles+Grid+Meter+Looks+to+Save+Homeowners+Some+Green/article14221.htm
SolDevVB posted February 11, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Oh, and please do show where I attacked.
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So SolDevVB has no problems with that email? Or my posts re AGW deniers? Okay. . . then I stand corrected.
BTW: The “careers” of people who are paid to deny AGW is very similar to the past careers of people who denied the health dangers of tobacco.
Some of the AGW deniers were even previously employed as tobacco deniers.
“Boxlock20
Posted February 11, 2009 at 2:38 pm | Permalink
“If someone petitions for a law to be changed, there needs to be a more valid reason not to grant that petition than “that is the way it has always been.”–brian
Ah, no…there needs to be a reason to change it, and there isn’t, at least one that benefits society in any way.”
I guess that viewpoint is why you are a conservative and why I am a social liberal.
cos,
You’ve gone over the edge sister.
“janeeyre
Posted February 11, 2009 at 2:59 pm | Permalink
…Traditional marriage for thousands of years…
Would that be the traditional Biblical story of Jacob and his 2 wives or Solomon and his multituditudinous number of wives and concubines to name a couple of what we would not call non-traditional situations.”
I think the traditional, Biblical idea of multiple wives is a great idea….I just haven’t convinced my current wife of it.
I think the traditional, Biblical idea of multiple wives is a great idea….I just haven’t convinced my current wife of it.
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Why would you want more than one woman b1tching at you?
The Bailout and stimulus is getting very close. The Dems have degreed it for our own good. They even meet behind closed doors to make it happen, I doubt if the Pubs were in on it. We will be more socialize for the good of all. Then Congress will take a week off from their hard labors. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29136678/
“ANTI
Posted February 11, 2009 at 3:26 pm | Permalink
I think the traditional, Biblical idea of multiple wives is a great idea….I just haven’t convinced my current wife of it.
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Why would you want more than one woman b1tching at you?”
There would be no b1tching. The Bible says a woman must be subserviant to her husband.
There would be no b1tching. The Bible says a woman must be subserviant to her husband.
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Hmmm…I need my preacher to have a chat with my wife.
SolDevVB,
So you do have a problem with that email, and/or my posts? Can’t you even make a simple decision?
And the late Dr Seitz, re tobacco deniers becoming AGW deniers
http://www.desmogblog.com/node/1067
“Oregon petition and big tobacco
It’s interesting to note that Fred Seitz, the author of the cover letter is also the former medical advisor to RJ Reynolds medical research program. A 1989 Philip Morris memo stated that Seitz was: “quite elderly and not sufficiently rational to offer advice.”
However, 9 years later, it seems that he was “sufficiently rational” to lead the charge on Robinson’s Oregon Petition. It also seems that Seitz is still “sufficiently rational” to sit as the Chair of notorious climate change denier, Fred Singer’s, Science and Environmental Policy Project.”
Go to the link cos. And relax. I didn’t take the xanax Farmie offered yesterday. It’s all yours.
SolDevVB,
Okay. . . so you can’t even make a simple decision.
Boxlock20
Posted February 11, 2009 at 2:00 pm | Permalink
…Oh, and brian, there is no valid societal reason for homosexuality either, at least for society to recognize it as marriage.”
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There is no reason for society NOT to recognize it as marriage, either, Boxer….
The major opponents are against it based on “religious” beliefs…. I mean hey, Boxie, you DO believe that all men(people) are created equal, dont you??
So cosmos,
Found that law about co2 being a pollutant?
The bible says a Woman is to submit to her husband as the Church submits to Christ. The husband is also called to love his wife as Christ loved the church and gave up himself for her. If the man is doing his part, a wife should not have a problem with submitting to that. A nice way to live.
Subserviant – Subordinate in capacity or function
Submit – To give in to the authority, power, or desires of another.
Reid defends Obama on his Las Vegas remarks. Members of Congress are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites coming down on executives who do not do any more than they do.
http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2009/02/11/reid-plugs-vegas-defends-obama-on-senate-floor/
Monkeyhawk
Posted February 11, 2009 at 2:53 pm | Permalink
The truth is out about the Knoxville church shooter.
He was out to kill Liberals.
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Monkey, we knew that when we held the Memorial Service in Wichita last Summer…. The sad part is, that the incident will likely be a recurring one, until Liberals stand up to these goons who would shoot us down like diseased vermin…. We NEED to fight back… In the courts, and in the Public Opinion polls….
CJM writes, The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”
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I actually believe in God. The difference is that I believe in a God who doesn’t want His children to be idiots.
So, I get along with non-believers like Ksgrrl and BlueJay just fine, because I don’t try to ram my God down their throats. I don’t tell them they will burn in an eternal lake of fire at the hands of my all-loving God, for instance.
It’s the Fundy-CONs I can’t abide, for those people sit in judgment of any and all who veer from their closed-minded interpretation of scripture.
Even the Rev. Billy Graham isn’t enough of a Christian for them.
For those who show mercy will be shown mercy . . .
Hope? Change? Uh, well, not so much.
Reporting from Washington — Harvard Law Dean Elena Kagan, President Obama’s choice to represent his administration before the Supreme Court, told a key Republican senator Tuesday that she believed the government could hold suspected terrorists without trial as war prisoners.
She echoed comments by Atty. Gen. Eric H. Holder Jr. during his confirmation hearing last month. Both agreed that the United States was at war with Al Qaeda and suggested the law of war allows the government to capture and hold alleged terrorists without charges.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-solicitor-general11-2009feb11,0,7158432.story
Just how is this different from the Bush position, for which he was lambasted and burned in effigy?
Uh, it’s not.
It seems that the administration is discovering that ‘governing’ is a lot different than ‘campaigning.’
Welcome to the real world, Barack.
We NEED to fight back . . . In the courts, and in the Public Opinion polls . . .
True, Chas. We’ve let ourselves be defined by our enemies for far too long.
But failing that, I have no compunction about defending myself.
I noticed that one of the “bed wetting panty-waisted cheese-eating surrender monkey” liberals in the church rushed the shooter so that he couldn’t get shots off at others.
He sacrificed himself so that others could live.
Typical lib coward.
deja vu GMC :)
“Could” or “will,” GMC? Big difference.
BTW, did you see the President’s town hall in Elkhart in which he spoke before people who weren’t prescreened and answered questions from ordinary people that were critical of his administration?
How is that change from George W. Bush?
Night and fricking day, that’s how.
I wonder where Obama put the cages for the protestors at his public forums?
Bush used to put them into cages . . . That’s his idea of free speech. You can say whatever you want to, you just have to stay in the cage.
I see that Chas and the Crapn are joining the “I’m a victim too” weeping society.
Perhaps they will construct a wailing wall of their own somewhere in a common location, so they can repeat secular based breviaries to orchestrate orderly cattle calls to worship.
“Regular
Posted February 11, 2009 at 4:14 pm | Permalink
…Perhaps they will construct a wailing wall of their own somewhere in a common location, so they can repeat secular based breviaries to orchestrate orderly cattle calls to worship.”
that already exists… it is called the ‘opening bell’
that already exists… it is called the ‘opening bell’
heh :)
Question: Don’t “prisoners of war,” unlike “unlawful enemy combatants,” have the protection of Geneva conventions? The answer, kiddies, is yes.
But I still think the concept of being “at war” with terrorists is ludicrous and inflates their prestige. And is unconstitutional.
But then, I also think it’s wrong to demand a lawsuit be dismissed because of “state secrets.” The national-security crowd in the Obama administration needs to be reined in now.
Rage
Posted February 11, 2009 at 4:20 pm | Permalink
Question: Don’t “prisoners of war,” unlike “unlawful enemy combatants,” have the protection of Geneva conventions? The answer, kiddies, is yes.
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Are you sure about that?
Don’t the signatories of the Geneva Convention have to be a country?
Terrorists are not countries, they are outlaw groups and violators of human rights.
Reg, the POW classification is ludicrous, as I noted above. But, legally, if they are called POWs, they must be treated as POWs.
I don’t think we can treat the change in terminology lightly.
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Rage
Posted February 11, 2009 at 4:30 pm | Permalink
Reg, the POW classification is ludicrous, as I noted above. But, legally, if they are called POWs, they must be treated as POWs.
I don’t think we can treat the change in terminology lightly.
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They are called ‘enemy combatants’ as I recall.
So what other assumptions have you declared as truth are in actuality inaccurate? :)
Oh, and enemy combatants are detainees once they are uh…detained.
Not POW’s…
Heh, that’s rather the point, Reg. See GMC’s link. . .
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CapnAmerica
Posted February 11, 2009 at 4:11 pm | Permalink
I wonder where Obama put the cages for the protestors at his public forums?
Bush used to put them into cages . . . That’s his idea of free speech. You can say whatever you want to, you just have to stay in the cage.
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Well, it would be a little early Capn to be protesting the president, even using liberal wacko standards. But I’ll bet you that Obama is protested by the left before he is the right. Especially when they find out they don’t get free homes, cars, and unemployment benefits matching the previous wages, etc… as came up in his news conf.
And anyway, conservatives generally have jobs or businesses to tend to and haven’t time to go “down to the demonstration, to get their fair share of abuse”.
“So, I get along with non-believers like Ksgrrl and BlueJay just fine, because I don’t try to ram my God down their throats. I don’t tell them they will burn in an eternal lake of fire at the hands of my all-loving God, for instance.”—Capn
Come on Capn, I’m certainly not one “trying to ram my God down their throats” either.
What I am about is resisting their forceful attempt at changing the traditional meaning and definition of marriage, and that the way they choose to live is normal or desirable.
They are the ones trying to ram their views on everyone else and change things to make themselves feel better about their lifestyles. “KSgrrl” because she is les/ bian, and Blowfish because….well he is a worthless Marxist who want society to support him.
Get real please. They are the ones that have tried to falsely claim I, and others, am forcing anything on them. Heck…let them live happy, rot, or whatever, I don’t care, but I’m not going down that road or agreeing with that path….period.
I don’t care what they do, but leave me and the rest of normal society out of what they are trying to change this country or world into.
The national-security crowd in the Obama administration needs to be reined in now.
Or, Rage, perhaps another possibility: that the Obama administration, with the benefit of information that you or I do not, has concluded that indeed there are folks out there with the intent and means to do significant numbers of Americans harm. And that it is their job to see that does not happen.
I know that does not fit in with your worldview, but someone has to actually be the adult.
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BlueJay
Posted February 11, 2009 at 2:33 pm | Permalink
A deal has been reached on the economic stimulus. Apparently, three Republicans decided to join the Democrats in helping our country to recover from the bush years. Con ranter Sean Hannity wants them kicked out of the party.
We’ll take them. That gives our side what, 62 votes?
We’re gonna get all SORTS of good stuff done!
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The Republicans can take the 11 demo house members the voted against the bill in trade for a start.
should be “. . . with the benefit of information that you or I do not have access to, has concluded . . .”
Yea, I know. Proofreading is my friend.
Outlander claims, “it would be a little early to be protesting the president.”
WorstPresidentEver inspired protests on the day he took office. His inaugural parade was egged and booed by protestors.
You’re right Capn. I stand corrected.
It wouldn’t be below the standard of liberal wackos to be protesting a president within the first month. They got nothin’ better to do.
Or, Rage, perhaps another possibility: that the Obama administration, with the benefit of information that you or I do not, has concluded that indeed there are folks out there with the intent and means to do significant numbers of Americans harm. And that it is their job to see that does not happen.
You state the obvious, as if someone is disputing it, and add a silly ad hom to boot. But I guess it beats staying on topic, particularly if your argument is a loser.
Nice red herring, GMC.
“It wouldn’t be below the standard of liberal wackos to be protesting a president within the first month.”
Yeah, those damn Libs.
How dare they want the re-count in Florida to actually take place as required by law?
Damn democracy lovers! If the Bush family wanted Americans to have democracy, they would have given it to us.
You’re welcome, Rage. Labeling the facts you don’t like a “red herring” doesn’t change the facts, does it?
Ciara Craig, 21, will be charged with first degree murder for throwing her newborn daughter into Lake Ponchartrain, LA on Tuesday. Craig had concealed her pregnancy and delivered the infant alone, then went to the lake to drown the baby, rather than to a designated safe haven for legal abandonment. Craig had sought a post-viable abortion, but abortionist quack George Tiller was too far away to commit the illegal act, although assuredly he would be willing to do so at any flimsy pretext for any mother able to reach his abortion mill – for a very high cash-in-advance fee, of course.
So, GMC is saying that this potential appointee has had access to classified information . . . before she’s even been appointed.
I wonder if the FBI knows that?
Good thing that GMC knows it though.
“Don’t the signatories of the Geneva Convention have to be a country?
Terrorists are not countries, they are outlaw groups and violators of human rights.
Just what address would one put on the front of the envelope? Libs love to love the terrorists.
Parkay’s post demonstrates that laws protect infants from attempted murder and abuse, and that the laws work.
Strangely, he’s outraged by that.
Libs love terrorists.
For instance the American terrorist that shot up the Universalist Church because he hates libs.
All the libs tried to hug him and he killed them all.
Oh, wait, no.
They overpowered him and sent him to prison with a fair trial.
Damn terrorist lovers.
For instance the American terrorist that shot up the Universalist Church because he hates libs.
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Weak
CapnAmerica
Posted February 11, 2009 at 5:09 pm | Permalink
Libs love terrorists.
For instance the American terrorist that shot up the Universalist Church because he hates libs.
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Actually, he’s not.
He’s a run of the mill capital offender.
cosmos_originally
Posted February 11, 2009 at 3:37 pm | Permalink
SolDevVB,
So you do have a problem with that email, and/or my posts? Can’t you even make a simple decision?
And the late Dr Seitz, re tobacco deniers becoming AGW deniers
http://www.desmogblog.com/node/1067
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Hey cosMo, What does Dr Seitz have to do with Mario Lewis? Why do you like to run back to your neo-eco-fascist blog for answers? Is desmog sending some kind of racist message with the one black guy “SEIG HEILING” and a bunch of white dudes standing at attention, on their logo?
Weak to say the least.
“CapnAmerica
Posted February 11, 2009 at 5:07 pm | Permalink
Parkay’s post demonstrates that laws protect infants from attempted murder and abuse, and that the laws work.
Strangely, he’s outraged by that.”
Not strange. Parkay only cares about the unborn. Once they are out of the womb she has no concern for them.
Her outrage comes from the fact that the baby could have been aborted rather than drown.
Several of you nice blogging gentlemen seem to like the verse that says “Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands.” But none of you mentioned the verse immediately before that one.
“Christians, submit yourselves to one another.”
Paul was not asking a wive to behave any differently towards her husband than he is asking any one Christian to behave towards another. In both cases, each is to be supportive of the other.
“janeeyre
Posted February 11, 2009 at 5:20 pm | Permalink
Several of you nice blogging gentlemen seem to like the verse that says “Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands.” But none of you mentioned the verse immediately before that one.”
It makes for better comedy when we pick and choose the verses.
““Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands.””
The verse immediately before that should read, “face down, a$$ up.”
Actually, Jane, Paul also said that “slaves should obey their masters.”
We can conclude that he was a man among men and his words should be weighed with rationality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4nF-BTclRM&feature=PlayList&p=6218751920584237&index=2&playnext=2&playnext_from=PL
Equal Rights
Peter Tosh
Everyone is crying out for peace
But none is crying out for justice
Everyone is crying out for peace
But none is crying out for justice
But there won’t be no peace
‘Til man get his equal rights
And justice.
“fleettwood
Posted February 11, 2009 at 5:24 pm | Permalink”
2liveCrew fan?
(who isn’t, right?)
2liveCrew fan?
I stole it from Don & Mike
“It would begin showing up in most workers’ paychecks in June as an extra $13 a week in take-home pay, falling to about $8 a week next January.”
Here’s your tax cut. Don’t spend it all in one place.
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CapnAmerica
Posted February 11, 2009 at 5:24 pm | Permalink
Actually, Jane, Paul also said that “slaves should obey their masters.”
We can conclude that he was a man among men and his words should be weighed with rationality.
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Actually, Jane, Paul also said:”Husbands,love your wives as the Messiah loved the church and gave himself for it…”
It seems to me the husbands have are taking making more of a sacrifice.
Taxpayers may have to cover octuplet mom’s costs
This is what the liberals entitlement society mentality breeds….the down fall of this country if not reversed.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D969LSL80&show_article=1
“Even before the 33-year-old single, unemployed mother gave birth to octuplets last month, she had been caring for her six other children with the help of $490 a month in food stamps, plus Social Security disability payments for three of the youngsters. The public aid will almost certainly be increased with the new additions to her family.
“It appears that, in the case of the Suleman family, raising 14 children takes not simply a village but the combined resources of the county, state and federal governments,” Los Angeles Times columnist Tim Rutten wrote in Wednesday’s paper. He called Suleman’s story “grotesque.”
The Suleman octuplets’ medical costs have not been disclosed, but in 2006, the average cost for a premature baby’s hospital stay in California was $164,273, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. The average cost for just one cesarean birth in 2006 was $22,762 in California. Eight times that equals $1.3 million.
For a single mother, the cost of raising 14 children through age 17 ranges from $1.3 million to $2.7 million, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
Remember how proud the GW denyers were when the snowy owl maybe perhaps was moving south?
Yeah . . . check this:
When it comes to global warming, the canary in the coal mine isn’t a canary at all. It’s a purple finch. As the temperature across the U.S. has gotten warmer, the purple finch has been spending its winters more than 400 miles farther north than it used to.
And it’s not alone.
An Audubon Society study to be released Tuesday found that more than half of 305 birds species in North America, a hodgepodge that includes robins, gulls, chickadees and owls, are spending the winter about 35 miles farther north than they did 40 years ago.
The purple finch was the biggest northward mover. Its wintering grounds are now more along the latitude of Milwaukee, Wis., instead of Springfield, Mo.
Bird ranges can expand and shift for many reasons, among them urban sprawl, deforestation and the supplemental diet provided by backyard feeders. But researchers say the only explanation for why so many birds over such a broad area are wintering in more northern locales is global warming.
WASHINGTON — The American military has not properly tracked tens of thousands of weapons the Pentagon bought and shipped to Afghan security forces, leaving the arms at risk of being stolen or sold to militants, according to a new federal report that is to be presented at a House panel hearing on Thursday.
American military officials failed to keep complete records on about 87,000 rifles, pistols, mortars and other weapons — about one-third of all arms the United States sent to Afghan soldiers and police officers from December 2004 to June 2008, auditors from the Government Accountability Office found. Further, American military training officials kept no reliable records on 135,000 more weapons donated by 21 countries, including Hungary, Egypt, Slovenia and Romania.
They should have been registered…
“For a single mother, the cost of raising 14 children through age 17 ranges from $1.3 million to $2.7 million, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.”
Well, she is going to get an extra $13 a week with her tax cut.
You know why the tax cut for workers is being sent out in small pay-check to paycheck amounts… and it makes sense.
“…leaving the arms at risk of being stolen or sold to militants,…”
Have they been?
How about the slaves, DonnyBoy?
Are they making a sacrifice?
Greedy b@st@rds probably demanded food and clothing . . .
“Well, she is going to get an extra $13 a week with her tax cut.”
‘fleettwood’, I know sarcasm, and that is good sarcasm.
But truth is that women will never work…she and her 14 will be wards of the state and the country.
Sad thing is we put up with it…at this point we have no choice as it’s not the babies fault. Lets just hope the 14 don’t grow up with the same entitlement mentality.
I think the fertility doctor that is responsible, and the jerk who donated the sperm should be held financially responsible. Maybe hold the legislators that campaign for more entitlements could be held personally responsible for her families cost.
That might make some think.
VOCABULARY WORD FOR THE DAY
Liquidity
Liquidity: When you look at your investments and wet your pants.
Since Obama became president another 12 American military have died in the Iraq War. Obama has brought the death count to 4,236.
Another 81 innocent Iraqi civilians have come to their deaths under Obama.
Worst president ever.
The fertility doctor is under some sort of investigation…. the sperm donor had no clue where his sperm was going to be used… he has no liability….
donndublin posted February 11, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Hey cosMo, What does Dr Seitz have to do with Mario(sic) Lewis?
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donndublin,
The late Seitz was an AGW denier.
http://www.desmogblog.com/new-oregon-petition-promoter-not-sufficiently-rational-to-advise-tobacco-industry
Lewis is an AGW denier.
Can you figure out what they have in common now, donndublin? Or is it still too complicated for you?
Another provision will mean a one-time payment of $250 for millions of beneficiaries who receive Social Security, Supplemental Security Income and veterans pensions and disability, according to officials.
Wonder if that passed?
(smirks at the Libs about the Obama stimulus bill paying me 250 bucks)
Excuse me the death count for US Military as of 11 February is 4,241.
One of the best bumper stickers I have seen:
I’ll keep my money, my freedom & my guns
You can keep the ‘change’
Labeling the facts you don’t like a “red herring” doesn’t change the facts, does it?
No, but now that you’ve openly stated your obvious nonsense instead of just implying it, it’s no longer a red herring. It’s a straw man.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
Why not just ask me if I stopped beating my wife?
I wish to thank the Congress and Obama for approving the $15,000 tax credit (up to 10%) for anyone who purchases a home in 2009 (once enacted).
The wife and I were considering buying a nice retirement home, hoping we can get a cheap repo, or take advantage of the depressed housing market and get a good deal from someone who couldn’t afford their home.
It was nice of Congress to sunset the $7,500 tax credit was was income restricted to AGI’s less than $95,000 and ONLY for first time home buyers.
It’s nice congress recognized that the poor and young cannot afford to buy homes and if they really want stimulus, they passed a bill open to EVERYONE and it allows even the rich to buy a new home and get 15 grand back.
The pickings are great right now! Those with subprime loans, and those with bad credit or low credit scores can no longer get loans. That means the poor and young can’t buy – BUT I CAN!
Gotta love our president for being concerned about the upper middle class.
24 war veteran suicides in January… they are not getting adequate care… it is going to take so much work to turn this crap around..
RoaCH
Posted February 11, 2009 at 6:36 pm | Permalink
I wish to thank the Congress and Obama for approving the $15,000 tax credit (up to 10%) for anyone who purchases a home in 2009 (once enacted).
The wife and I were considering buying a nice retirement home, hoping we can get a cheap repo, or take advantage of the depressed housing market and get a good deal from someone who couldn’t afford their home.
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There’s a few in Elkhart, Indiana available.
24 war veteran suicides in January…
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Damn Obama!
GMC70,
Did you convert a “perhaps” into a “fact”? That’s impressive work.
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DavidB
Posted February 11, 2009 at 6:38 pm | Permalink
24 war veteran suicides in January… they are not getting adequate care… it is going to take so much work to turn this crap around..
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Got a link/story for that?
My nephew is disabled from the Iraq war, three tours of combat – suffered shrapnel wounds to head and body.
He gets excellent care from the V.A. here in Wichita, gets a full military pension, plus Veteran disability.
I could probably go down to the V.A. hospital and find you about 500 more if you wish.
The wife and I were considering buying a nice retirement home, hoping we can get a cheap repo, or take advantage of the depressed housing market and get a good deal from someone who couldn’t afford their home.
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There’s a few in Elkhart, Indiana available.
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Thanks Regular but I will be looking for warmer climes. There are plenty of repro’s down south. We’ve been looking. Some of the subprimes the banks are practically giving away (to anyone with a good credit rating that is) are trashed by the type of people who qualified. So we have to be careful shoppers.
I’m really tickled that the new 15 grand credit does not have to be paid back, unlike the sunsetting 7,500 poor peoples tax break (which had to be paid back to the government over 15 years).
So not only do those with the financial wherewithall to buy a home get more of a credit – it is one we get to keep!
I could probably go down to the V.A. hospital and find you about 500 more if you wish.
By all means Reguliar.
Post their names and rank, please.
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mxyzptlk
Posted February 11, 2009 at 6:47 pm | Permalink
I could probably go down to the V.A. hospital and find you about 500 more if you wish.
By all means Reguliar.
Post their names and rank, please.
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Okay, I’ll post it on the Defense Medical Network.
Got access?
(chortles)
In other words Reguliar, you’re doing what you do best ….lying.
Prattle on old fart…prattle on.
mxyzptlk
Posted February 11, 2009 at 6:53 pm | Permalink
In other words Reguliar, you’re doing what you do best ….lying.
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Nope, resident scumbag…
Just can’t post private information from the VA on this blog.
I’m also relieved to find out the Congress and Obama are approving a change to the AMT. There are many, many Americans affected by the AMT each year, mostly with incomes above $150,000. The change will help protect all threatened taxpayers and those with AGI up to $250,000.
It’s nice of the president to be thinking of all the people paying federal income taxes, and not just giving money away to those paying little or none.
cosmos_originally
Posted February 11, 2009 at 6:13 pm | Permalink
donndublin posted February 11, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Hey cosMo, What does Dr Seitz have to do with Mario(sic) Lewis?
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donndublin,
The late Seitz was an AGW denier.
http://www.desmogblog.com/new-oregon-petition-promoter-not-sufficiently-rational-to-advise-tobacco-industry
Lewis is an AGW denier.
Can you figure out what they have in common now, donndublin? Or is it still too complicated for you?
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cosMo, are you saying that all skeptics are bought by the tobaco industry? Are you suggesting that we rounded all the skeptics put on trial because they don’t SIEG HEIL the AGW alarmists? Who died and made you dicktater.
cosMo is an alarmist, Gore is an alarmist, Hansen is an Alarmist, Mann is an alarmist,.
“Can you figure out what they have in common now, cosMO? Or is it still too complicated for you?”
donndublin,
Okay, it is still too complicated for you. They were/are both AGW deniers.
But thank you for proving Godwin’s Law a 2nd and 3rd time.
Editorial in the New York Times:
The Obama administration failed — miserably — the first test of its commitment to ditching the extravagant legal claims used by the Bush administration to try to impose blanket secrecy on anti-terrorism policies and avoid accountability for serial abuses of the law.
On Monday, a Justice Department lawyer dispatched by the new attorney general, Eric Holder, appeared before a three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in San Francisco. The case before them involves serious allegations of torture by five victims of President Bush’s extraordinary rendition program. The five were seized and transported to American facilities abroad or to countries known for torturing prisoners.
Incredibly, the federal lawyer advanced the same expansive state-secrets argument that was pressed by Mr. Bush’s lawyers to get a trial court to dismiss the case without any evidence being presented. It was as if last month’s inauguration had never occurred.
Voters have good reason to feel betrayed if they took Mr. Obama seriously on the campaign trail when he criticized the Bush administration’s tactic of stretching the state-secrets privilege to get lawsuits tossed out of court. Even judges on the panel seemed surprised by the administration’s decision to go forward instead of requesting a delay to reconsider the government’s position and, perhaps, file new briefs.
More here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/11/opinion/11wed2.html?_r=1&ref=opinion
cosMo, is a fanatical “denier” of the truth and a name calling hate monger.
Priase be = SIEG HEIL!!!
Rage
Posted February 11, 2009 at 7:29 pm | Permalink
Editorial in the New York Times:
The Obama administration failed — miserably — the first test of its commitment to ditching the extravagant legal claims used by the Bush administration to try to impose blanket secrecy on anti-terrorism policies and avoid accountability for serial abuses of the law
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My comment would be that it is interesting how attitudes and opinions change in the presence of reality and ultimate responsibility.
Chas
Posted February 11, 2009 at 6:13 pm | Permalink
The fertility doctor is under some sort of investigation…. the sperm donor had no clue where his sperm was going to be used… he has no liability
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Actually Charles the mother knows the sperm donor and he fathered all 14 of the babies.
My comment would be that it is interesting how attitudes and opinions change in the presence of reality and ultimate responsibility.
Funny how previous administrations didn’t need this “reality.”
My addendum to the Times editorial: See, Mr. President, how adopting Bush-era tactics provides a post-hoc justification for every evil thing that was done?
“they are the ones trying to ram their views on everyone else and change things to make themselves ”
I happen to believe that organized religion has and does hold our society back.
It allows some jerk like you to pretend at being “blessed” when all you really are is a narrow minded, self righteous bigot.
I would not deny anyone their primitive beliefs that give them comfort. But when those beliefs are harmful to me or my friends, I WILL strike back at them and drive them and the believers BACK where they belong.
The ‘friend’ of the mother that provided the sperm and the fertility doctor should be held financially responsible for child support until those kids are 18 yrs. old.
Until people are held responsible for their stupid choices none of this will change.
“My comment would be that it is interesting how attitudes and opinions change in the presence of reality and ultimate responsibility.”—outlander
outlander, again…excellent comment.
That very concept will be the one that brings fiscal and social conservative responsibility back full force as the liberal agenda of the left brings down this country.
“the jerk who donated the sperm should be held financially responsible. ”
In the octuplet case?
Where is your rationale (sheesh look who I asking to be rational) in that?
As far as we know, the sperm donor had NO involvement in this disturbed young woman’s plans. He should not be made to answer for her.
In fact, I would argue that ANY woman who willingly gets pregnant becomes solely responsible for that pregnancy since the man has no say in going ahead with it. That would seem PARTICULARLY true in this case.
A man helps a woman out and you want to hold HIM responsible for her and her physicians bizarre decisions?
Why don’t you “pro life” people step up and raise this family?
The amount of money you WASTE in trying to change the law to fit your beliefs in one MONTH would raise those kids.
BlowJ*b, you are impotent to drive anyone back anywhere. You are a joke that can’t take care of yourself let alone handle anyone else.
The FACT remains, I am not trying to change anything, it is the homosexual agenda and your Marxist socialist attitude that is. And that will be met with the resistance necessary to stop it. No more effective than you are at anything, I’ll have plenty of time for hobbies as well.
BlowJ*b, I AM blessed, richly so. A wonderful wife who is a treasure, two bright and successful kids, wonderful grandkids, a good job working for myself and most important a God that has revieled Himself to me through faith….yes I am richly blessed.
I wish the same for you, I really do, but you are too bitter and envious to help make it happen.
I understand mom of 14 has a VERY professionally designed website now that accepts financial contributions.
It is SO well organized, you can even donate by credit card.
SO
Either she had this planned all along.
OR
SOMEONE is hoping along with her to get rich on this stunt.
Unless the website itself is an act of charity. SOMEONE has a pretty hefty investment here. So follow that money and leave the sperm donor alone.
Or of course, you could find the website and put your money where your mouth is.
“And that will be met with the resistance necessary to stop it.”
Uh huh.
How’s that fight working out for you lately?
“The Huffington Post (probably the mostliberal toilet rag in the nation) is reporting, via Momlogic, that the 33-year-old mother of octuplets born recently in California used sperm donated by a friend to conceive the eight babies using IVF. A neighbor told Momlogic that the woman was single and conceived her first six kids with sperm by the same friend, then apparently had the remaining sperm frozen and used it again for the octuplets….
I’m not sure what lie you could possibly tell a fertility specialist to convince him or her to implant eight embryos in your young uterus, especially after said uterus comfortably housed five previous pregnancies. Most experts agree that no more than two embryos should be implanted in a 33-year-old woman….
It has also been reported that the mother recently filed for brankruptcy and now lives with her parents in a 2-3 bedroom house.”
“A man helps a woman out and you want to hold HIM responsible”—BlowJ*b
Helps a woman out…are you totally insane? That’s helping her out, she is sick.
BlowJ*b, you are as stupid as chunk of coal.
Boxlock20
Posted February 11, 2009 at 9:15 pm | Permalink
I AM blessed, richly so. A wonderful wife who is a treasure, two bright and successful kids, wonderful grandkids, a good job working for myself and most important a God that has revieled Himself to me through faith….yes I am richly blessed.
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Boxlicker lives in a trailer near South Broadway where his “wife” works the streets and his kids are drug addicts.
Boxlicker is another blog liar that would sell his mother for his ego fix.
BBBBaaaaaawwwwwkkkkk bawk bawk baaaaaawwwwwkkkkk!
Boxlock20
Posted February 11, 2009 at 9:15 pm | Permalink
I AM blessed, richly so. A wonderful wife who is a treasure, two bright and successful kids, wonderful grandkids, a good job working for myself and most important a God that has revieled Himself to me through faith….yes I am richly blessed.
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Boxlicker lives in a trailer near South Broadway where his “wife” works the streets and his kids are drug addicts.
Boxlicker is another blog liar that would sell his mother for his ego fix.
BBBBaaaaaawwwwwkkkkk bawk bawk baaaaaawwwwwkkkkk!
“Or of course, you could find the website and put your money where your mouth is.”—the BlowJ*b
I don’t support acts of utter irresponsibility. Kind like you are utterly irresponsible Blow.
Hey bawksy?
WHERE is your proof that the friend had any voice in implanting 8 count ‘em 8 embryos in this woman?
Did he even KNOW she was going to use FROZEN sperm donated who KNOWS how long ago?
This is like when you ran with the “McCain supporting woman MUTILATED by black Obama supporter!!” story bawks.
In your usual seat of pious judgment, you don’t even have the facts for making your high hat pronouncements.
I think a man who did a favor for a friend who knows how long ago deserves better than the kangaroo court of sir Bawksalot.
And the misfit is nothing but scum and not very interesting scum at that.
I love it how anything posted about decency gets hem worked up into a hateful frenzy.
Know him by his filthy mouth, that’s what he is.
Yada, Yada, Yada… Everybody has a filthy mouth except for Boxlock, who refers to Blue Jay as BlowJ*b… Yea, sure, riiiight!!!
Boxlock is the President of the NHA… National Hypocrites of America…. And it doesnt have any term limits….
He fathered them BlowJ*b. Just like the guy that doesn’t plan on fathering kids during a fling is held responsible so should this guy. Or are you saying men shouldn’t be held responsible?
We all know you aren’t, but in general I mean?
Chas the faux preacher who maybe got his mail order. The ‘preacher’ with the obscene mouth.
What a den of viper you lead.
“I don’t support acts of utter irresponsibility.”
I don’t know whether you support them.
You DO commit them.
You have more than once posted half truths, lies, and un-researched information here bawks.
This octuplet thing is a stunt and you want a guy you don’t know anything about crucified for it.
You RAN with the “backwards B for Barack CARVED into face of white McCain supporter by black Obama supporter!” story. THAT could have gotten people killed IF more responsible people had not acted to stop such as you.
That’s the thing with someone like you who think he is divinely directed.
donndublin posted February 11, 2009 at 7:43 pm
cosMo, is a fanatical “denier” of the truth and a name calling hate monger.
Priase(sic) be = SIEG HEIL!!!
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The truth is, Seitz was, and Lewis is an AGW denier.
donndublin, you better hurry spreading your stupid AGW denial falsehoods, and Hitler meme. . . you’re running out of time.
DavidB
Posted February 11, 2009 at 6:38 pm | Permalink
24 war veteran suicides in January… they are not getting adequate care…
Obama is a horrible president and should be impeached.
“He fathered them BlowJ*b.”
No, he donated sperm to a fertility clinic. APPARENTLY some time ago.
Hey run with this one bawksy.
I do SO love helping you look like an idiot.
bigotbawks posted February 11, 2009 at 9:37 pm
He fathered them . . .
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The fertility specialist who implanted eight embryos did that.
“Or are you saying men shouldn’t be held responsible?
We all know you aren’t, but in general I mean?”
Let the record remind that the accused (me) is a single father and has been since my son was 1.
And the accuser? Well, I think the record reminds pretty well for him too.
The truth is, Seitz was, and Lewis is an AGW denier.
Being an AGW denier should be a capital offense. Email threats should be sent to one and all.
But being a reality denier, they deserve at least a $400 million grant.
As per cosmos standards, if any one point in a statement can be proven false, the entire statement is false and the one making the statement is a liar never to be believed again.
Thank you cosmos for telling the world that Hansen is a liar and should never again be believed, I mean how many times has his data been proven to be a lie?
“Angela Suleman said Nadya’s boyfriend was the biological father of all 14 children, but that she refused to marry him.
“He was in love with her and wanted to marry her,” she said. “But Nadya wanted to have children on her own.”"
OK, so her MOTHER says that Nadya’s boyfriend is the biological father… And SHE claims he is the biological father of ALL of the 14 kids….
Her mother also claims that she used a different doctor for the first SIX… than she used for the octuplets…. Which contradicts what the mother says….
I suspect it might be too premature to state conclusively WHO the biological father might be… based on the mother’s uncertainty on the doctor, etc.
. . . you’re running out of time
Yeah, like the thermometers. They keep getting lower, and lower, and lower…..
Link to previous post >>>>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090209/ap_on_re_us/octuplets
Let the record remind that the accused (me) is a single father and has been since my son was 1.
Agreed. junior couldn’t get a woman who bore (maybe) his child to say “I do”.
She was so repulsed, she left him and anyone who might have shared his genes.
But on to something constructive, I think there is some legal protection around sperm donors and the recipients. I think paternity is absolved as per child support.
“I suspect it might be too premature to state conclusively”
Bawksalot Boxlock never lets things like that stand in his way.
I swear, I could toss a grenade in his direction and he would throw himself on it to protect his beliefs.
BEFORE knowing whether or not I had pulled the pin.
FINISH HIM!
BlueJay wins!
FATALITY!!!!!
(Thanks to my kid for helping me with the “Mortal Combat” reference.
Let’s see here…. So, this really, really old guy used to be a “denier” on the issue of whether smoking causes health issues…. Then, later, the same now really, really, really old guy says there is no such thing as AGW….
Yea, I can sort of see why his credibility might be called into question….
And hey, I smoke, but I also know the health risks involved too….
I swear, I could toss a grenade in his direction and he would throw himself on it to protect his beliefs.
Sacrificing his life for those around him… Yeah, that is the type of guy I would want in my corner.
What would you do junior? Toss it to your kid?
“You RAN with the “backwards B “—BlowJ*b
If that’s all you have to keep coming back to you are weak, really weak.
You know that story was picked up an run with by a number of sources, not the least of which was the local television new program where I found it.
But I think it interesting that that’s all you’ve got to hold onto to fight back. You are a loser in so many ways BlowJ.
And not very smart either, the only thing you seem to be expert at is standing in parking lots in the middle of winter looking like the fool you were. Love it!
Oh now you don’t want to go there solie!
I WON my custody case. How ’bout you?
“If that’s all you have to keep coming back to you are weak, really weak.”
I speak con and am well versed in the bawksalot dialect of it.
” No FAIR reminding people that I am an irresponsible poster of false information! Pay no attention to the fact that I am doing it again! “
I got her to say “I do” and didn’t bring a kid into the world without a wed mother and father.
Oh yeah, and I didn’t knock up a crack wh ore. Kinda easy to win a custody battle when only one party shows up isn’t it?
You must be ever so proud.
Oh whoops. Guess that is a yes junior. I’ll go there every day of the week.
“You are a loser in so many ways BlowJ.”
Interesting that such a loser like me who owns SO little has total and complete control of big bad you. Telling even.
Some mayors’ across the country economic recovery wish list:
http://www.usmayors.org/mainstreeteconomicrecovery/default.asp?Area=Public%20Safety
“And hey, I smoke, but I also know the health risks involved too…”–Chas
No smarter than I thought. A great example. Too weak to manage your own body and mind.
Granade?????
“FINISH HIM!
BlueJay wins!
FATALITY!!!!!”
Oh, and BlowJ….it’s a sure sign you know you’ve really lost it, and is to me and everyone as well, when you have to use imagery to make yourself look like you’ve won.
You really aren’t much fun anymore, sad really. Think I’ll look around the net for something of interest.
Night all, and take care Sol, you can get really dirty playing with some of the folks here.
Heck, here’s the source:
http://lonestartimes.com/2009/02/11/militarizing-police-depts-with-your-bailout-money/
Pretty sweet.
Fine let’s go there some MORE solie.
Just why did the court determine you an unfit parent?
SURELY you had more money than the first woman you could not keep in her place or otherwise.
How DID she manage to beat you in court?
And THEN you bailed on your failed first family and went and knocked up some other woman.
I guess she is a little easier to keep in line huh?
SolDevVB posted February 11, 2009 at 9:48 pm
. . . you’re running out of time
Yeah, like the thermometers. They keep getting lower, and lower, and lower…..
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Yeah, like the 80 degrees F in Oklahoma yesterday (Feb 10) before the tornadoes hit.
You better hurry SolDevVB. . . you’re running out of time to con people with your lies about climate science.
“Think I’ll look around the net for something of interest.”
Yeah you really don’t want to look too stupid for too long.
Tomorrow is another day!
Now Cosmos, weather is not climate…. Careful now… Stay with Dr. Seitz….
“Think I’ll look around the net for something of interest.” [bawksalot]
You do that old man… There are plenty of places on the net where you can post your fake junk stories….
I hear the KKK blog is looking for posters… And so is Aryan Nations…. Those guys would LOVE you!!
Oh Nooooo…., Mr. Bill, it is the ex-wife slug fest.
Talking with my ex-wife reminds me of what it is like to re-visit this blog, i.e., “Why did I put up with that crap for so long?”
A very good question, I think.
To those reich-wing idiots that blame FDR for the Depression–
1. The Depression began in 1929. FDR didn’t take office until March of 1933.
2. The GDP went up steadily from the end of 1933 to 1937 with a small blip from 37-38 before shooting up again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gdp20-40.jpg
3. Unemployment went down as a direct result of gov’t spending
1933 24.9
1934 21.7
1935 20.1
1936 16.9
1937 14.3
1938 19.0
1939 17.2
1940 14.6
1941 9.9
1942 4.7
1943 1.9
As the US went into massive deficit spending for WW2 — in which national debt hit a historic high of 150 percent of GDP — unemployment was virtually eliminated.
Looks more like Monday Night Raw to me Steven… LOL
“Tomorrow is another day!”—BlowJ*b
And you BlowJ, will be just as worthless and stupid as today….because you don’t want to get better. You just want other people to provide for you and live with no responsibility, work ethic or character.
I really should thank you. Every time I get to feeling down, as all people do at times, all I have to do is think of you and I am filled with gratitude. Yes, I am blessed, so thank you BlowJ, you cause me to remember it.
GREAT post CapN!!!
Chas,
I know that weather is not climate — I’m just teasing SolDevVB.
But the next El Nino phase will probably break the 1998 temperature, and the minimum volume Arctic sea ice will easily melt every year.
Time is running out for the AGW deniers.
SolDevVB
Posted February 11, 2009 at 10:34 pm | Permalink
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
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Let me find my “dirty word” and I’ll repost.
You are welcome bawks.
If I can help a judgmental, lying, self righteous Christian bully soldier and grandpa reduce himself to the sad little 12 year old who never grew up?
I sleep good at night.
Just why did the court determine you an unfit parent?
Who said that they did? Nice straw man and blatant lie. Nice dodge – nice foot work.
SURELY you had more money than the first woman you could not keep in her place or otherwise.
One by one –
1) Yep, I had more money. What difference does that make? Texas is extremely sexist. Welcome to reality. Check the statistics.
2) First woman I could not keep in place. So you feel that women are items in your inventory to be “kept in place”. Niiiiice. Gotcha
3) Seeing as statistically 90% of mothers get custody of children ( the younger, the higher the odds) what was so deficient about the woman you chose to procreate with disgusted the court enough to grant you custody?
How DID she manage to beat you in court?
1) As stated above, unless she is smoking crack while in court, custody is most likely hers.
2) Did the mother of your child smoke crack in court or what else was it that so disgusted the court to give you custody – check the statistics. You really picked a winner didn’t you?
And THEN you bailed on your failed first family and went and knocked up some other woman.
1) Yep, I divorced a mentally unstable woman. Then moved to a horrific state to be a part of my son’s life. What an a$$hole huh?
2) Knocked some other woman up? OK A) we’ve had no children together and b) We just celebrated our 8th anniversary. When was the last time you were with a woman?
I guess she is a little easier to keep in line huh?
She’d whoop your sorry a$$ without breaking a sweat. Care to give it a go?
But the next El Nino phase will probably break
Now there is some solid settled science[sic] fer ya !!!
Oh and bawks?
If I can help you with your spelling and grammar, let me know.
Solie must be looking for his “See n Say”. If he finds it, maybe he can help you too.
“Jesus Christ and Hitler both had a lot in common.” Glenn Beck, Professional Idiot
SolDevVB
Posted February 11, 2009 at 10:47 pm | Permalink
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
DAMNIT !!!!
“Jesus Christ and Hitler both had a lot in common.” Glenn Beck,
Got a link commie?
CapN — Beck holds a PhD in professional idiocy… ROFL
WHOA solie you are all OVER the place!
Like most cons, you throw a lot of ____ at the wall and hope some sticks.
Let’s simplify it.
“Yep, I divorced a mentally unstable woman.”
And lost custody of your kids to her. What does that make you?
“She’d whoop your sorry a$$ without breaking a sweat. Care to give it a go?”
WHOA dud (not a misspelling) YOU went there I didn’t.
Do you?
“Got a link commie?”
Translating:
“Oh no I’m melting MELTING! How dare you destroy my beautiful ugliness! Oh what a world what a world!”
Anybody else notice that Reich-wingers are going from merely snide and sarcastic to bitterly vicious?
Hank Price, the Christian who is so Christian that he is able to judge the Christianity of others, called me an a$$hole the other day.
Boxlock, above, writes that whenever he feels down, he just thinks of liberals who are “worthless and stupid . . . and just want other people to provide for us and live with no responsibility, work ethic or character.”
Wow, who knew that the Democratic Party taking both houses of Congress and the Presidency would cause the wing-nuts to become so completely unhinged?
“And chas holds… himself… ROFLMAO LOL CAPSLOCKTARDO”
Anybody got a mop?
I can’t “FINISH HIM”
He already self destructed.
FATALITY!!!!
“Oh no I’m melting MELTING! How dare you destroy my beautiful ugliness! Oh what a world what a world!”
Guess that is a no. Figures.
I can’t “FINISH HIM”
Big shock there…
:::eye roll:::
Case in point is SolD.
I used to think that, for a CON, he was not unimpervious to rationality.
Now, he’s just a rage machine, cocked and ready to go off at a moment’s notice.
President Obama . . .
Just let it sink in and breathe the aroma . . .
No I do not care to beat up your second wife there solie.
I’ll leave that to you, since you suggested it.
I don’t care to beat up your first wife either. Maybe you were not so restrained and that is why you lost custody to her.
So no link then. Figures.
Sollie–
I’ll bet you 50 dollars that I can find a link for my Beck Jesus = Hitler quote in three minutes.
Meaning you can too.
Care to take that bet?
I noticed CapN…. Bunch of homophobic sex perverts!! LOL
“OK A) we’ve had no children together and b) We just celebrated our 8th anniversary. ”
SO you are firing blanks then?
Now tell the truth solie.
Did you lose custody of your son because he wasn’t yours?
You’d do better to admit that than to be seen as an unfit parent.
Sollie won’t put his money where his mouth is.
Figures.
I’ll bet you 50 dollars that I can find a link for my Beck Jesus = Hitler quote
You posted it, back it up.
I was consulting my see’n’say. Forgive my tardiness :~>
Sollie–
Let me give you the address of where you can send your check . . .
I know, googling something is too much like research, which is anathama to CON ignorance.
Here’s the freaking link–there’s a freaking VIDEO of Beck saying it.
http://crooksandliars.com/2007/09/24/glenn-beck-jesus-and-hitler-had-a-lot-in-common
I really do not like exploiting the pain of an idiot.
But when said idiot takes first swing on me? I give myself permission.
Solie?
ONE kid from your first marriage and the marriage failed. NO kids from your 8 year marriage to wife number 2?
You are plowing shallow or your seed is no good.
Sorry, I can’t help it. I have to add another version, but it’s a good 4 years old.
California’s Letter of Secession
Dear President Bush:
Congratulations on your victory over all us non-evangelicals. Actually, we’re a bit ticked off here in California, so we’re leaving you. California will now be its own country. And we’re taking all the Blue States with us. In case you are not aware, that includes Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, all of the North East States, and the urban half of Ohio.
We spoke to God, and she agrees that this split will be beneficial to almost everybody, and especially to us in the new country of California. In fact, God is so excited about it, she’s going to shift the whole country at 4:30 pm EST this Friday. Therefore, please let everyone know they need to be back in their states by then. God is going to give us the Pacific Ocean and Hollywood. In addition, we’re getting San Diego. (Sorry, that’s just how it goes.) But God is letting you have the KKK and country music (except the Dixie Chicks).
Just so we’re clear, the country of California will be pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, and anti-war. Speaking of war, we’re going to need all Blue States citizens back from Iraq. If you need people to fight in Falujah, just ask your evangelical voters. They have tons of kids they’re willing to send to their deaths for absolutely no purpose. And they don’t care if you don’t show pictures of their kids’ caskets coming home.
So, you get Texas and all the former slave states, and we get the Governator and stem cell research. (We would love you to take Britney Spears off our hands, though. She IS from the south, right?)
Since we get New York, you’ll have to come up with your own late night TV shows because we get MTV, Letterman, the Daily Show, and Conan O’Brien. You get… well, why don’t you ask your people at Fox News to come up with something entertaining? (Maybe you should just watch Crossfire. That’s a really funny show.)
We wish you all the best in the next four years and we hope, really hope, you find those missing weapons of mass destruction. Seriously. Soon.
Sincerely,
California
“So I guess we see what junior thinks of women…”
I am not junior to you in age so far as I know.
Certainly, you would do well to defer to me in matters of fatherhood.
I have not insulted or degraded the mother of my son.
YOU did.
You also degraded the character of the mother of your own son.
You seem to have inadequacy issues. You project them all over the place.
BECK: I think people want somebody who have room for doubt, but also have the confidence. I think Jesus Christ and Hitler had a lot in common, and that was they could both look you in the eye and say, “I`ve got an answer for you, follow me.” One was evil; one was good. But they both could look you in the eye and have an answer for you. There are very few politicians right now that can look you in the eye and you believe it.
OK, so capn, your point is???
Obama looked the public in the eye and said “We need to spend 1.3 trillion dollars…”
Hitler said We must burn the Jews…
Are you a holocaust denier or what?
LOL
BlueJay can’t even provide for his own son and he thinks we should talk to him about matters of fatherhood?
BlueJay,
When you can provide for your son by not having to seek handouts, because you refuse to work, then you can talk to us about what a great father you are.
“It is called responsible sex junior,”
In an 8 year marriage and no kids?
Are you emulating Rush Limbaugh intentionally or unintentionally?
ACLU RELEASES DOD DOCUMENTS
* Investigation of two deaths at Bagram. Both detainees were determined to have been killed by pulmonary embolism caused as a result of standing chained in place, sleep depravation and dozens of beatings by guards and possibly interrogators. (Also reveals the use of torture at Gitmo and American-Afghani prisons in Kabul).
* Investigation into the homicide or involuntary manslaughter of detainee Dilar Dababa by U.S. forces in 2003 in Iraq.
* Investigation launched after allegations that an Iraqi prisoner was subjected to torture and abuse at “The Disco” (located in the Special Operations Force Compound in Mosul Airfield, Mosul, Iraq). The abuse consisted of filling his jumpsuit with ice, then hosing him down and making him stand for long periods of time, sometimes in front of an air conditioner; forcing him to lay down and drink water until he gagged, vomited or choked, having his head banged against a hot steel plate while hooded and interrogated; being forced to do leg lifts with bags of ice placed on his ankles, and being kicked when he could not do more.
* Investigation of allegations of torture and abuse that took place in 2003 at Abu Ghraib.
* Investigation that established probable cause to believe that U.S. forces committed homicide in 2003 when they participated in the binding of detainee Abed Mowhoush in a sleeping bag during an interrogation, causing him to die of asphyxiation.
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Thank goodness we didn’t torture anybody.
CapnAmerica,
Notice how all those started with the word “Investigation?”
Thank goodness we “Investigate” all allegations of torture in this great country.
Oh now Nathan.
You really do not want to compare notes on fatherhood do you?
You have NO experience and your own father was late to the game.
Your attack point is that my son has Government health care?
Did you, or did you not post that you have lived in public housing and eaten food purchased with food stamps?
These are things by the way that I do not attack and instead advocate FOR.
Now I know you don’t want any benefits for other people’s kids Nathan.
The question is, is this because you know you will never have any kids of your own?
ONE kid from your first marriage and the marriage failed. NO kids from your 8 year marriage to wife number 2?
You are plowing shallow or your seed is no good.
One more time for the educationally challenged. “Responsible sex” I don’t expect you to understand this right out of the gate junior, as it has been well over a decade since you have enjoyed the pleasure of a woman.
Responsible couples don’t procreate unless the want to. I mean DAMN, I guess the google will be you best friend for this.
How long has it been since you’ve known the pleasure of a woman.
Oh.. wiat for it.. Maybe this is your problem…
BlueJay
Posted February 11, 2009 at 10:12 pm | Permalink
SURELY you had more money than the first woman you could not keep in her place or otherwise.
Anyone want to guess what Nathan’s e-harmony profile looks like?
Ideal woman–
* possesses M.D. degree, so I can work as receptionist, like my Dad
* no previous sexual activity
* devout Fundamentalist Christian, preferrably Southern Baptist
* must be willing to live in same town as in-laws
* Concealed carry certified
And he wonders why he’s still single . . .
CapnAmerica,
I see you are still out to prove to everyone why you are not a Christian.
Keep up the good work.
“Responsible couples don’t procreate unless the want to”
Your spelling is going solie.
Is it your wife is unwilling or you are unable there solie?
I sense that your first failed marriage will not be your last. OR it will produce no children.
“as it has been well over a decade since you have enjoyed the pleasure of a woman.”
I note the mention of women as tools for pleasure.
I don’t need to brag as to my sexual experiences here solie. Why are you projecting your lack of them on me?
I see in your future another dissolved marriage.
Me? I just don’t tell women my real name.
No, I’m a Christian, Nathan.
I’m just not a good Christian . . .
BlueJay,
What would you be bragging about?
Tell us again why the mother of your child left you?
My son’s mother did not want to be a parent Nathan.
You know, like your Dad?
Hehe, this should really drive the Fundy-CONs nuts: Stem Cells cure HIV?
A 42-year-old HIV patient with leukemia appears to have no detectable HIV in his blood and no symptoms after a stem cell transplant from a donor carrying a gene mutation that confers natural resistance to the virus that causes AIDS, according to a report published Wednesday in the New England Journal of Medicine.
The patient underwent a stem cell transplant and since, has not tested positive for HIV in his blood.
The patient underwent a stem cell transplant and since, has not tested positive for HIV in his blood.
“The patient is fine,” said Dr. Gero Hutter of Charite Universitatsmedizin Berlin in Germany. “Today, two years after his transplantation, he is still without any signs of HIV disease and without antiretroviral medication.”
The case was first reported in November, and the new report is the first official publication of the case in a medical journal. Hutter and a team of medical professionals performed the stem cell transplant on the patient, an American living in Germany, to treat the man’s leukemia, not the HIV itself.
However, the team deliberately chose a compatible donor who has a naturally occurring gene mutation that confers resistance to HIV. The mutation cripples a receptor known as CCR5, which is normally found on the surface of T cells, the type of immune system cells attacked by HIV.
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Killing fetuses to save gays . . . James Dobson is going to explode . . .
Link available for a small fee . . . .
In the history of this forum Nathan, your family has chosen to mine my family much more than I have yours.
I’ve decided not to be better than you anymore.
However else you choose to attack me, I am a single dad by my own choice.
Your dad chose otherwise.
Defend that instead of attacking me.
BlueJay,
Statistics show that children raised in a single parent home are more likely to end up in jail or as high school drop outs.
Congratulations on your choice.
Too bad for your son.
SolDevVB posted February 11, 2009 at 10:43 pm
But the next El Nino phase will probably break
Now there is some solid settled science[sic] fer ya !!!
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It’s not about the science — it’s the fact that ENSO events have different strengths, and different durations.
If it’s a weak, short-duration El Nino, it might not break the temperatures of the record 1998 El Nino event.
I always liked Barton Stone’s comment:
“We may not be the only Christians,
But we are Christians only.”
[Barton Stone, early founder of the Disciples of Christ]
Nathaniel,
Statistics also show that children raised in dysfunctional two-parent homes are more likely to end up in jail or as high school drop outs.
“Statistics show that children raised in a single parent home are more likely to end up in jail or as high school drop outs.”
It is not my choice to explore your pain Nathan.
Maybe it was right another poster took you where you seem so ready to go.
How is it that the person you once called Joyce is now Mom?
What changed?
Also, how do you presume to judge fatherhood when you have no experience and your own father was derelict?
Nathan–
Your dad wrote that your birth mother died.
I’m sure if there were more to it, he would have been the first to admit it . . .
:sarcasm off:
It’s not about the science — it’s the fact that ENSO events have different strengths, and different durations.>/i>
If it’s a weak, short-duration El Nino, it might not break the temperatures of the record 1998 El Nino event.
I’m ever so scared….
“Your dad wrote that your birth mother died.”
Oh that is padding it Capn. And like I say, I did not choose to go there.
Hank said clinically:
“The boy’s mother is dead”
And now “the boy” presumes to stand in judgment on a better father than his own ever was.
CapnAmerica
Posted February 12, 2009 at 12:14 am | Permalink
Nathan–
Your dad wrote that your birth mother died
So how is your mother doin capn?
What’s it to ya, big boy?
And while yer at it, ask Nathan and Regular, hehe.
I was born of a virgin, Sol.
Medical science still can’t figure it out.
Killing fetuses to save gays . . . James Dobson is going to explode
I found the article on CNN.
I didn’t see a reference to fetal stem cells, it just said donor.
CapnAmerica
Posted February 12, 2009 at 12:23 am | Permalink
I was born of a virgin, Sol.
So no one owned up to you. I can see why. Nuff said.
Uh yeah solie?
You’re married 8 years and no kids.
It is the middle of the night. Even later where you are.
And you are speculating on MY sex life or lack thereof?
Is your wife home?
Time to check out of the Roach Motel.
Pleasant dreams of a better tomorrow under President Obama . . .
SolDevVB posted February 12, 2009 at 12:18 am
It’s not about the science — it’s the fact that ENSO events have different strengths, and different durations.
If it’s a weak, short-duration El Nino, it might not break the temperatures of the record 1998 El Nino event.
I’m ever so scared….
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SolDevVB, you should be scared. Soon your lies about climate science will be much less effective.
If telling me how miserable you think I am makes you feel better about how miserable you are solie, run with it.
WHILE your wife is either out sleeping with someone else or snoring and dreaming about someone else.
SolDevVB, you should be scared. Soon your lies about climate science will be much less effective.
I’m popping the corn now. Great show, this imploding farce of AGW.
Rejection is one thing, but never making it up to the plate? Man that failure flag has to be waving strong for you junior.
If telling me how miserable you think I am makes you feel better about how miserable you are solie, run with it.
I’m open minded junior, if you can satisfy your own needs, bully for you.
SolDevVB posted February 12, 2009 at 12:39 am
Great show, this imploding farce of AGW.
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Yes, the AGW deniers position is a funny, imploding farce.
It is similar to the end of the deniers who kept insisting that smoking tobacco was not unhealthy.
“Man that sucks just slightly less than the first woman you were with rejecting you and everything that might share your genes.”
Tear me down to build you up solie?
I’m sorry but that will not help you roll over your wife and get her to do ear sex or whatever it is you do that has kept her without child for 8 years.
SolDevVB
Posted February 11, 2009 at 11:28 pm | Permalink
Guess I’ll have to hit the capn up with this tomorrow as he ran off tonight….
It is similar to the end of the deniers who kept insisting that smoking tobacco was not unhealthy.
Help! I’ve fallen and I can’t get up !!!!
Come again when your maybe El Nino exceeds 1998 levels…
“She is right here beside me.”
Your wife you mean solie?
Well, hell what is she? Dead? Heavily sedated?
Plastic?
Imaginary?
Because I have been pwning her man all evening.
Help! I’ve fallen and I can’t get up !!!!
Come again when your maybe El Nino exceeds 1998 levels…
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Come again when you get some science to refute the AGW theory.
You people lost before you started — your only products are lies and confusion.
Because I have been pwning her man all evening.
What ever pwning men means… If you prefer men, bully for you.
your only products are lies and confusion.
And you have the threatening emails to prove it. I mean if the science is settled, why would one have to send threatening emails????
“We both like it better in the morning. Gets the day started off right.”
LOL
I was going to ask if that is when she gets home.
But you already said she was beside you.
Maybe she had a busier day than you.
“She’s” unconscious or otherwise worn out there Solie.
SolDevVB posted February 12, 2009 at 1:04 am
your only products are lies and confusion.
And you have the threatening emails to prove it. I mean if the science is settled, why would one have to send threatening emails????
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You consider the email “threatening”, because your only products are lies and confusion.