“To come up at this moment in history with a stale, ‘government is the problem. . . we can’t trust the government’ (message) . . . it’s just a disaster for the Republican Party,” columnist David Brooks said on PBS’ “NewsHour” about Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal’s GOP response to President Obama’s address to Congress. “The country is in a panic now. They may not like the way the Congress passed the stimulus bill. The idea that government is going to have no role in this . . . in a moment where only the federal government is big enough to do stuff . . . to just ignore all that and say ‘government’s the problem’ . . . ‘corruption, earmarks, wasteful spending’ — it’s just a form of nihilism. It’s just not where the country is, it’s not where the future of the country is.”
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Jindal knows that the stimulus money is coming from China, Japan and other countries, not from U.S. taxpayers. Its the wrong way out of this horrible economic crunch. But its the EASY way and that’s what our national politicians will buy into … shame on them.
That a governor of Louisiana ridicules spending money for monitoring natural disasters is just too bad to be true. But that’s Jindal, Exorcist Extraordinaire.
Yeah what a total friggin hypocrite. Disasters are disasters only when it happens to his state apparently.
Just like a con- all about them.
If Republicans had their way, they’d let society crash, and then rebuild from the ashes? Well, it might be the only way, but I’d try something different first. If it happens anyway, it won’t make much difference how much we owe. If we pull out of the tail spin, the tax revenues created will more than offset the moeny borrowed.
Come on BrownLib,
Huffington Post commentary?
Hey, he’s trying to appeal to “the base”, not the the ones who actually prone to thinking…
“Regular” –
Polls showed Obama’s approval ratings went UP 17% after
ApuI meanAlfred E.I mean “Bobby” Jindalahasapeemapetilon gave his little speech.That’s gotta be problematic for the Republic Party, doesn’t it?
Jindal was absolutely correct.
The government put things in play to create this mess and now we think they will get us out.
This is simply a big power grab to create a government dependent state.
You DimLibs will be getting exactly what you deserve but it won’t taste like what you think it will.
Ignorant to think otherwise.
Keep thinking that, “Boxlock20″ –
The Moose-Dresser must have wet her designer-lable panties when
ApuI meanAlfred E.I mean “Bobby” Jindalahasapeemapetilon bombed the other night.And he is the “brains” of the Republic Party?
After eight years of Connecticut preppy Shrub’s fake Texas malaprops we’re supposed to buy the GOP’s Great Brown Hope and his faux Coon-ass jargon?
Heh.
Back in 1990, the government seized the Mustang Ranch brothel in Nevada for tax evasion and – as required by law – tried to run it.
They failed and the Mustang Ranch closed.
So now we trust the economy of our country, and our banking system, to the same nit-wits who couldn’t make money running a who/re house and selling whiskey?!!
This will be interesting!”
Box – I don’t know how well FDIC etc will do in running Citi and other failed banks. Actually they have done a reasonably credible job so far with IndyMac etc and they did so in the 80s with THAT mektdown.
What I DO know is that the existing management has failed miserably and that a partnership between my dog and my cat could not do any worse!
“Boxlock20″ –
Sorry your favorite tourist spot in Nevada failed under Republic Party leadership in 1990.
Or was the Mustang Ranch your former employer?
Repubs better get with the program. It is time to quit trying to undermine the stimulus and the economy, too much is at stake.
You are either part of the solution, or part of the problem, America has spoken.
Kay bailey hutchinson was on espousing that the one thing we learned is stimulus doesn’t work. Of course the alternative is the ‘burn, baby, burn’ mentality. And, wait for the phoenix to rise from the ashes. But then that only happens in mythology.
OMG, Obama wants to regulate wall street. The repubs will have a cow, and Jindal will worship it.
140 mil. wasted on monitoring volcanoes, what a waste. Let the next one take out Anchorage.
“Kay bailey hutchinson was on espousing that the one thing we learned is stimulus doesn’t work.”
The former Breck girl is not correct.
We learned that TAX CUTS for the wealthy dont work as stimulus. And then we learned that tax rebates dont work for anyone else either.
Stimulus? The jury is still out. But that never stops a con. Just look at the Tiller thread….
Looks like stimulus spending worked just fine for halliburton, KBR, blackwater, etc…..
It isnt the spending these wingnuts oppose. Or the deficits. Witness the last eight years.
Nope. What they object to is spending money that will help more than just the top two percent of the economic pyramid. And that goes somewhere other than to the military industrial complex.
…or Portland or Seattle or most of Northern California…who cares? Obviously Alfred E. Jindal doesn’t!
And why, faithful readers might ask, would the cons want to support that two percent, even if they are not among them?
One word answer.
Wannabes.
Two more words?
Prosperity gospel.
To paraphrase the phelps clan….
“GOT HATES POOR PEOPLE”
It was the first time I had seen Jindal. He certainly wasn’t very impressive. Very strange delivery.
But it is just more of the fashionable hyperbole to say it was a disaster for the GOP. And he did point out the impossibly extravagant Obama promises. Obama is going to spend trillions of our children’s inheritance “giving” us these huge new programs, including health care, but at the same time managing to reduce the deficit and cutting taxes. Oh, and doing that while spinning a plate on each index finger and his nose.
“spend trillions of our children’s inheritance”
heheheheh.
I think it was shrub and his merry band of congress critters who spent “our children’s inheritance” on enriching cheney, halliburton, blackwater, etc in the unneeded war in iraq.
What obama and the democrats will have to do is try to salvage a nation from the ashes of republican destruction so your children actually have, ya know, a NATION to inherit.
What would be the appropriate price to spend on that salvage operation, outie?
Monkeyhawk
Posted February 26, 2009 at 7:18 am | Permalink
“Regular” –
Polls showed Obama’s approval ratings went UP 17% after Apu I mean Alfred E. I mean “Bobby” Jindalahasapeemapetilon gave his little speech.
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Monkeyhawk the racist.
In fact, I think those bales of cash the military was tossing around like footballs had “outie’s kid’s inheritance” stamped on them….
bth,
We sure have a mess effecting us all, or most of us anyway.
I don’t have all the answers but to simply say “You are either part of the solution, or part of the problem, America has spoken”, as Phantom said is way overly simplistic….
But what can you expect from a simpleton.
To blindly go along with ‘change’ is fatalistic.
The stock market…the collective opinion of those with a stake, is negative. They don’t trust Barry to know what he is doing and not wrecking the country in the process.
…and I think the inheritance of the other little con children went to bail out Wall Street. But it wasnt quite enough to fill the insatiable greed of the banks and the brokers.
They needed some of YOUR 401(k) money to keep them from feeling a little peckish.
…and I think the inheritance of the other little con children went to bail out Wall Street. But it wasnt quite enough to fill the insatiable greed of the banks and the brokers.
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Barry’s going to give them another 3/4 of a Trillion.
“Racist?”
How so, “ANTI?”
Heheheh. The con retirement funds would have been SO much better off out of SS and into the stock market.
We shoulda told bushco to allow cons to invest their SS retirement in private accounts, and leave the rest of it in traditional SS, and see who did better.
Thank goddess it didnt happen that way. I wouldnt want MY money to go to rescuing the stupid sheeple people who invested the way shrub suggested.
“The stock market…the collective opinion of those with a stake, is negative. They don’t trust Barry”
They must not have trusted shrub either. IIRC, the tanking started under his reign of error.
Even despite all his tax cuts!
Polls showed Sambo Obama’s approval ratings went UP 17% after Apu I mean Alfred E. I mean “Bobby” Jindalahasapeemapetilon gave his little speech.
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Monkeyhawk the racist.
The collective opinion of those who had a stake in government, the voters, was negative about republicans too. They didnt trust them in the last election.
I’m a big fan of substance over style, but Jindal was severely lacking in both departments.
“fleettwood” the name-caller.
What’s “racist” about my comments regarding Piyush?
“his faux Coon-ass jargon?”
Um, REAL coon-asses dont talk that way, mi cher…
“ksfarmgrrl” –
Have you ever made boudin?
I was craving it during Mardi Gras.
Someone buy Governor Brady Bunch a Red Bull, he looks like he’s about to fall asleep. I suppose his speech had the same affect on him as it did his audience.
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Monkeyhawk
Posted February 26, 2009 at 8:24 am | Permalink
“fleettwood” the name-caller.
What’s “racist” about my comments regarding Piyush?
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How about singling out a person’s ethnicity for the purposes of ideological mockery?
You are a racist MonkeyHock. You demonstrate that daily on this blog.
“What’s “racist” about my comments regarding Piyush?”
What’s the difference between calling someone Sambo or calling someone Apu?
Actually, the lessons learned was that bush faith based stimulus doesn’t work. You can’t just hand out money and pray the ceos will do the right thing for America.
OMG, I LOVE boudin! But sadly, no, I dont make it. I dont have a casing stuffer. I guess I could make it in balls or patties. But I think it just wouldnt have the same effect.
I also love the hotlinks from Simpson’s in Beaumont. Ya know, the kind you squeeeeze out on a piece of white bread?
Oh, I’m homesick now….
It might not have been such a big disaster except for the fact that Jindal has been promoted for months as the Great Hope for the repub party.
Ummmm. BBQ crap from Sartin’s…..
Damn you Monkeyhawk. Now I’m gonna hafta go get headcheese for breakfast! Fried crisp with eggs and grits and biscuits.
Actually, Little “black” Sambo was Indian!
(Dot Indian, not feather Indian.)
Those were tigers he turned into butter, remember?
Apart from the fact I called no one “Apu” (you’ll note it’s been struck out of the post that’s got you in a tizzy), I’ve expressed nothing but respect for Piyush’s presidential ambitions.
Apart from the fact I called no one “Apu” (you’ll note it’s been struck out of the post that’s got you in a tizzy), I’ve expressed nothing but respect for Piyush’s presidential ambitions.
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So this is acceptable to you Monkeyhawk?:
Obama is a uppity
coonpolitician.Sartin’s BBQ crabs!!!
I heard, a couple of hurricanes ago, Sartin’s was wiped out. Dunno if they reopened somewhere.
My routine when I lived there was to drive through the edges of the “Golden Triangle” and find mom & pop grocery stores with the ol’ man behind the meat counter selling home-made BBQ and sausages and boudin and gumbo and….
It’s time for a road trip!
Wanna come along?
Monkeyhawk, now you know why Republicans were so upset when Democrats were referring the President Obama as Osama. Oh wait, they weren’t. Never mind.
“ANTI” declares –
“Obama is a uppity
coonpolitician.”Brace yourself. “fleettwood’s” gonna come after you, too.
Brace yourself. “fleettwood’s” gonna come after you, too.
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Fleettwood is smart enough to read it in context, unlike you.
I’d LOVE a road trip to Southeast Texas.
And… the best BBQ is sold by old guys with a half-barrel smoker along side the road!
And if we venture a little farther east, I know a place in Breaux Bridge with the best soft shell crabs in the world, mi cher!
I think Jindal gets the “liar of the week” award for saying Loooosiana doesnt depend on the federal government.
Take a look at these figures. The important one is on the far right, which is how much they get back from the feds compared to how much they pay in.
Loooooosiana is making out like a bandit on federal dollars. And so is Kansas.
Why do they dis the hand that is so clearly feeding them cash?
Oops. Here’s the linky.
http://www.nemw.org/taxburd.htm
Not only, he lied about a maglev line between Disneyland and Vegas. But how else are you going to represent the Republicans if you don’t lie?
Apparently having to go through the mental effort of living in Republican fantasyland, Governor Brady Bunch was so mentally exhausted that he took a vacation. He left for somewhere more realistic than Republican rhetoric, he went to Disneyworld.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Jindal_takes_vacation_day_after_panned_0226.html
Part of Jindal’s problem may have been he forgot to mention veterans. I think more Republicans could have forgiven his other idiosyncrasies if he’d just remembered to mention veterans.
So, Jindal conducts exorcisms; Palin gets ’spiritual’ guidance from Pastor Muthee who drives the witches out of African villages. And the two of them are competing to be the future of the GOP!
Sometimes, ever once in a while when you’re with great good friends in a very safe place, do you ever wonder what it would be like to sip a tiny bit of that red kool-aid? Would it take you back to the 60s and maybe help you remember them?
In the meantime, I rally like the line-up the GOP has for 2012!
I thought Greensburg was a disaster. I’ll guess I’ll have to add a 10 minute speech to the long list of disasters that have happened in this country.
Jindal was the/another repug disaster.
Don’t drink the red koolaide without a guide nearby, you might not make it back!
I think Rachel Maddow speaks for me on this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxHoWEdcbcM&feature=related
Invoking the horror of Katrina as a parable about the uselessness of government bureaucracy? That’s the message? Seriously?
As the saying goes, Republicans always claim that government doesn’t work, then get elected and prove it.
RFL posted February 26, 2009 at 10:11 am
I thought Greensburg was a disaster. I’ll guess I’ll have to add a 10 minute speech to the long list of disasters that have happened in this country.
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The damage caused by the tornado provided an opportunity.
http://www.kansasenergy.org/greensburg.htm
David Brooks said on PBS’
Public Broadcasting = works for Obama.
What’dya expect?
Jindal’s speech was not effective for 54% of Americans who voted democrat. And now your job is to put him down, character assasination, and trivalize his words.
Yeah, AW, I suppose Jindal’s speech will appeal to the kind of vacant mentality that would consider “volcano monitoring” as pork.
Such folks, fortunately, as not anywhere near the 46% that voted for McCain.
“trivalize his words.”
I think you meant trivialize.
It would be difficult to trivialize Jindal anymore than he did for himself. His political career is dead BEFORE arrival.
Hey, ya still got lil’ Sarah!
Public Broadcasting = works for Obama.
Obviously, AW doesn’t actually watch public broadcasting.
Big surprise.
I don’t necessarily agree with Jindal’s response. This problem is going to take not only the government, but also every American to fix. I don’t see the Republicans calling for tough action. They are trying to leave this up to the average American so they can continue business as usual. Well, I am sorry to say, business as usual is effectively over.
What is a disaster, is this egotistical, self-absorbed, Marxist, poor excuse of a President, with a grandiose personality disorder. He is literally destroying this country, and tearing it apart from it’s seams. Meanwhile, you moronic kool-aide drinkers have your heads shoved completely up your derrieres, and criticize a governor who believes in the principles that this country was founded, and many of us have fought and died for. For your information Louisiana has been adding jobs, and growing their economy during this. How? By doing exactly the opposite as the antichrist in the white-house. He has been lowering taxes and decreasing the size of government. The only proven method of success. You all need to get a life, wake up and stand up for this country and it’s constitution, before it is lost forever. It is happening right in front of your eyes and you are too self absorbed yourselves to even realize it. You think you are all so damn smart, and your stupidity is allowing this country to fall to a Marxist takeover. You should all be ashamed!
Let’s see Redandgold, I suppose Louisiana can only improve since they are practically dead last in the state rankings.
They rank #2 in infant mortality (MS is #1, and also wants to reject Obama’s bill)
They rank #5 in violent crime.
They rank #43 in people over 25 with a bachelor’s degree.
They rank #2 in poverty
They tie with SC for #4 in obesity.
They rank #5 in states that receive the most federal aid
Yup, they get a lot from the government and still happen to be one of the worst places to live. No wonder, they keep on voting Republican. Well, we see what sort of Republican utopia you want to create, I think I’ll stick with the higher standard of living found in socialist countries.
“Bobby Jindal! You’ve just tanked the biggest speech of your life, single-handedly sank the Republican party even deeper than it was before, and wounded your presidential aspirations.
“What are you going to do now?”
“I’m going to Disney World!!!”
I just ran away from home
Now I’m going to dizz knee land
I just crashed my car again
Now I’m going to dizz knee land
I just robbed a grocery store
I’m going to dizz knee land
And I just flicked off President George
I’m going to dizz knee land
I’m going to dizz knee land!
I just tossed a fifth of gin
Now I’m going to dizz knee land
I just got cuffed again
I’m going to dizz knee land – yeah
Shot my gun into the night
I’m going to dizz knee land
I just saw a good man die
I’m going to dizz knee land
Come on…I’m going to dizz knee land
Kicked my as s out of school…
Rolled me out into the streets…
Hitched a ride on a monkey’s back…
Headed west into the black…
I’m going to dizz knee land!
I’m going to dizz knee land! (yeah, yeah)
I’m going to dizz knee land! (oooooOoo!)
I’m going to dizz knee land! (yeah! yeah!)
http://lyricwiki.org/Dada:Dizz_Knee_Land
redandgoldroom,
You said Obama has a grandiose personality disorder. Did you get that from “Dr.” Sam Vankin. If so, you might want to google his web site where he clearly states that “I am not a mental health professional.” However, he should have some experience with narcisissitic personality disorder since he was diagnosed with it while in prison in Israel for bank fraud.
“They [Lousiana] rank #5 in states that receive the most federal aid”
There’s the clincher.
janeeyre – I get the feeling that red/gold has his own issues with “grandiose personality disorder.”
Prime examples of the STUPIDITY I was speaking about. Thanks for making my point. Morons!
Hey red?
If you see squirrels, run!
If I see a squirrel, I’ll shoot him and make a stew. Want to come over for some?
Good grief, the problem was the message, not the messager.
Until they get all their issues worked out there isn’t a politician alive OR dead who could have pulled anything less than a disaster last night. In fact, there probably isn’t a professional actor who could have pulled off the speech Jindal gave.
Not even Reagan could have made that speech work.
The problem is that the GOP still hasn’t figured out why it’s getting it’s getting hammered at the polls the past 30 months. Jindal doesn’t have to collect votes in the Northeast or on the coasts or west of the Mississippi, all he has to do is run against Democrat corruption in Louisiana (of which there is much). And it showed: he was about as animated as PlayDo.
The GOP still hasn’t done the hard work necessary to a resurgence, not yet. All they’ve done is apply a Band-Aid to the gaping maw of a wound they shot in their own elephant and then allowed the Democrats to worry to basement size.
Why are their leaders idiots? Why do Republics so wholeheartedly support such morons? Why do their morons have no ideas (absolutely none)? Where are their 21st century ideas, anyway?!? Etc. It’s a huge list.
The GOP hasn’t even begun to do the heavy lifting necessary to a return to national power. That ain’t Jindal’s fault.
Pedant,
You usually get to the point and then explain it very well. Just wanted you to know I appreciate you and your level head.
Maybe they’ll get something figured out this week at CPAC. With the patting themselves on the back for unity against the stimulus package without admitting even to themselves they have no options, I kinda doubt it. Then there are the many who think legislating morality is the most important issue to Americans.
I read an op-ed piece by one of their own today (John Avlon). He said, “Republicans are fired up about their party’s newfound fidelity on excessive spending—a principle that’s apparently more convenient when you’re out of power—but what other lessons have they learned from the excesses of Bush-Rove-DeLay era?”
and
“There is no one in the likely Republican field that feels a courageous obligation to question whether the party’s oft-professed belief in individual freedom should extend to gay rights or a woman’s right to choose.”
I think he is ‘right.’
Here’s what Alaska’s two Senators thought about Jindal mocking spending on volcano monitoring. I also hear the folks who live in the shadow of Mt. St. Helen’s were not amused.
First, a letter from Senator Mark Begich (D):
Dear Governor Jindal:
I write to take issue with your comments on national television last night following President Obama’s speech regarding federal spending on volcano monitoring.
Specifically, you listed “volcano monitoring” in a series of projects you consider ”wasteful spending.” Volcano monitoring is a matter of life and death in Alaska. The science of volcano monitoring and the money needed to fund it is incredibly important in our state and could affect the economic well-being of other states and countries because of Alaska’s key role in international commerce.
In December 1989, Alaska’s Mount Redoubt had a serious eruption that caused a Boeing 747 to lose power in all four engines with hundreds of passengers on board. Fortunately, the aircraft was able to restart and land safely, but damage to the airliner exceeded $80 million. Obviously, had the aircraft not been able to restart its engines, the result would have been catastrophic.
Alaska’s largest international airport in Anchorage is one of the world’s busiest cargo airports, with more than 600 wide-body cargo jets delivering millions of dollars of goods between Asia, North America and Europe each week. Any interruption of that traffic by a volcanic eruption could be felt in Tokyo, New York or even Baton Rouge.
Currently, the Alaska Volcano Observatory monitors 31 active Alaskan volcanoes and works closely with other federal , state and municipal agencies to ensure public safety and minimize disruptions. Eruptions often spew curtains of ash miles into the air that impact communities hundreds of miles downwind, causing severe health consequences for our citizens. When there is a significant eruption, those with respiratory challenges must stay indoors.
For Alaska and our country, monitoring volcanoes is important business. The more we know about what might happen, the better our citizens and industries can plan for the potential hazard. Feel free to contact my office so we can provide you with further information regarding this important subject.
Sincerely,
Mark Begich
U.S. Senator
Even fellow Republican Lisa Murkowski jumped on Jindal’s comments:
“It is absolutely appropriate for our federal government to spend money on volcano monitoring. A current example is Mount Redoubt. This active volcano, which is on the flight path into Anchorage International Airport, the third busiest cargo airport in the world, and Elmendorf Air Force Base, has been smoldering since the end of January. The Alaska Volcano Observatory has been on 24 hour watch since then.
A volcanic eruption at Mount Redoubt has the potential to bring down a jumbo aircraft flying over Southcentral Alaska. Alaskans vividly remember that volcanic ash from an eruption of Mount Redoubt nearly brought down a KLM Boeing 747 as it was completing its flight from Amsterdam to Anchorage in December 1989. The volcanic ash caused the failure of all four engines on the jumbo jet.
Over the past couple of days a lot of Barry Goldwater quotes were posted.
I suspect a lot of people who honestly consider themselves truly conservative are sitting and stewing about the CONs and the twice-born and the Republic Party’s deal with the devil (so to speak).
It’s mixed the country club bourgeois with the Melvin Dummars of America. And the true conservatives have gay sons and daughters and don’t want to know if their 13-year-old is or isn’t or wasn’t pregnant. “And if Nancy Reagan’s for stem cell research, right on! ‘Cuz I’d still hit on that!”
Did I call it or what? Joe the plumber considering a run for office. Go Joe, in 2012, the job has to be easier than being an assistant plumber.
Joe the Plumber at CPAC Posted: Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:38 PM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: Republicans
From NBC’s Ashley Codianni
WASHINGTON — In a one-on-one interview this morning with Samuel “Joe the Plumber” Wurzelbacher here at the Conservative Political Action Committee, he told NBC News that he would consider running for office after his son is finished with college. “I will consider in six years when my son is at Ohio State… It’s a lot of work, and it’s a very important job. And I would take it as serious as it is. It would be as a servant and not someone who feels entitled.”
Video: Joe the Plumber at CPAC.
Wurzelbacher also was critical of current GOP leadership. “Personally, I don’t see anybody as far as a leader in the Republican Party right now. They’re afraid to say anything, they are more worried about being politically correct and their special interest groups. They are not worried about the American people. No way, no shape do I ever hear anything about that. They talk a good game, but I see no action
Joe is being just waaaay too modest, surely he is someone who’s entitled, after all didn’t he ask the burning question of the election, nay, the century?
Joe has to be enjoying the Bobby Jindal implosion.
Hell, he could easily be the rights new rising star. I mean, this is the party that gave us george bush, Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindal.
I see CPAC has called together their best and brightest to chart the course of the party for the next century.
Wonder if Jindal got an invite, or palin.
I heard Jindal say his mother was four months preg with him when she arrived in this country, does that make Bobby an anchor baby?
It looks like the MSM has started the character assassination too early. There’s too much time for everyone to realize the truth before the next election. The “fairness doctrine” in needed for the network news and other liberal media.