Pastor Rick Warren asked in his inaugural prayer Tuesday for “humility in our approaches and civility in our attitudes – even when we differ.” He and President Barack Obama modeled such attitudes and approaches when Obama asked Warren to give the prayer and Warren accepted – despite the gnashing of teeth of some on the left and the right. Warren’s call was echoed in the inaugural address, as Obama urged the nation to end recriminations and worn-out dogmas and, in the words of the Scripture, “set aside childish things.”
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It is not civil of him to try to deny an entire group of people their rights to be happy based on his religion. I will say, though, bringing on Bishop Robinson to also lead a prayer, though appeasement, was a gesture to bring them all to the table that I can appreciate.
Eyes on the prize, folks:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/civil_rights/
we ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get in back, when brown can stick around… when the red man can get ahead, man; and when white will embrace what is right.
of Reverend Lowery’s benediction was a blast from the past – right out of the sixties. I thought we were all in this together? Party of inclusiveness?
Instead the Prez parades out the old racial division as if it still shapes who we are as a nation. Does he mean for whites to continue to feel guilty?
Very divisive.
Damed if he does, damned if he doesn’t. Let’s hope some on this blog heed’s the message.
Seems some are looking for anything to criticize and HOPING President Obama fails.
I read an op-ed piece recently that said President Obama can improve how bush is viewed by history. If the economy can be turned around sooner rather than later, if our foreign relationships can be addressed and healed, the faster the progress on healing the America bush made sick, it makes the damage look shorter term, less serious and improves the way history treats bush.
So if these bush apologists and the Republican members of Congress want to be obstructionists they not only want America to stay sick and HOPE she doesn’t get better, they also HOPE bush isn’t redeemed. They’re helping to make that happen!
Headlines On This Date 4 Years Ago:
“Republicans spending $42 million on inauguration while troops Die in unarmored Humvees”
“Bush extravagance exceeds any reason during tough economic times”
“Fat cats get their $42 million inauguration party, Ordinary Americans get the shaft”
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Headlines Today:
“Historic Obama Inauguration will cost only $120 million”
“Obama Spends $120 million on inauguration; America Needs A Big Party”
“Everyman Obama shows America how to celebrate”
“Citibank executives contribute $8 million to Obama Inauguration”
Nothing like fair & unbiased coverage of the news !!!
Alas — guess it is only the inflation that is
too blame . . . . :o)
Dad –
You’re surprised by that? REmember who writes the headlines. The media’s still swooning at the feet of “The One.” And this love-fest will go on for a time; they have a vested interest in keeping him looking good – in large part, they selected him.
It won’t last forever. At some point (probably sooner rather than later, and it’s about time) the critical questions will start. And the “transparent” Obama administration will begin to become a little less transparent. Reality will set in.
Now its time for the left-wing-liberal-democrats to bend over and receive their daily anal-probe . . . . all I can say is: if the shoe fits . . . . LOL
Remember: it’s not what Obama says .. it’s how he says it . . . .
cooool-n-classsey (apply shades)
yall have a goodn
http://www.nwrnetwork.com/radiostations/RealAnswersRadio/player/embedded_player.php?bw=high
“Warren, Obama modeled civility”
As did the outgoing administration. Too bad many of Obama’s supporters don’t have any understanding of the term.
It’s called class. And many in the crowd didn’t have any.
Dadman, those headlines remind us that the libs are at their usual, “do as I say, not as I do” tricks.
I am willing to give Obama a chance and hope he succeeds, unless he is on the other side of specific issues that I care about. But regardless, as a conservative who recognizes that all authority is allowed by God, I will not treat him the divisive, indecent way that the liberals did with Bush.
Conservatives need to set the tone in that regard. We can be disagree and still be civil.
That inauguration expense figure includes all the costs – security, transportation – not just the parties.
There were at least three times the number of people attending Obama’s inauguration as compared to George Bush’s – so there is more need for security.
But let’s not let the facts get in the way of your pushing the Fox News/Rush Limbaugh spin. They have been trying to push this story for the past week.
GMC – lack of class was also shown on the campaign trail by McCain/Palin crowds – was it not? McCain, at least, did say something to stop his people – Palin never did. Now, that is true class.
Modeled Civility as well as Tolerance.
“Conservatives need to set the tone in that regard. We can be disagree and still be civil” . . .
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I agree with you Outlander .. attack the issue if we have to .. not the president if we don’t have to
“…I will not treat him the divisive, indecent way that the liberals did with Bush.”
Seriously outie, were you not bothered one bit by the way Bush indecently treated our constitution? Shaking my head at the power of partisan blindness…
have you seen the photo of the after-math . . . OMG !!!! .. someone has got a lot of trash to clear
. . . http://www.drudgereport.com/ . . . .
dadman
Posted January 21, 2009 at 9:00 am | Permalink
have you seen the photo of the after-math . . . OMG !!!! .. someone has got a lot of trash to clear
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good community project that the President has talked about everyone pitching in with!
Steven, Bush may have pushed the enveleope a bit. But it was for unselfish reasons; because he desired to protect this country.
But with regard to civility and treating folks the way you would want to be treated, you don’t get it do you?
Now that “god” has spoken StevenEdavis .. it’s not just the constitution you need to be concerned with .. it is also America’s Founding-Document/s (plural) .. I do believe that entails the Declairation of Independance .. the Federalist papers .. and even the Mayflower Compact . . . . details my man .. details
The voters decided who would be president, the Supreme Court didn’t need to weigh in. It is a better way to begin.
If Obama ever treats the job and the people with the total lack of respect bush did, I will be among the first to complain. President Obama will have my respect as long he deserves it.
excuse me . . . I almost forgot The Northwest Ordinance . . . . my bad :P
I mentioned the huge abundance of litter on yesterday’s inauguration thread. Very sad.
“President Obama will have my respect as long he deserves it” . . . ditto
There was nothing wrong with Warren’s prayer. In fact, Obama repeated many of the same things in his speech that Warren had previously stated in his prayer.
Coincidence? I think not.
and now for an issue I’m concerned about . . . . will Obama allow Iran to develope a nuclear weapon ???? . . . . the bomb
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7278951069225366106&hl=en
Obama Spends $170 million on inauguration; America Needs A Big Party”
That’s the figure I read and that includes everything. The 42 million for Bush’s last one (I read 40) also included all the parties and security.
So that would be a pretty good apples to apples comparison.
Such a shame to waste money – while your nation is in financial crises, and people loosing their homes.
Bush 42 million = bad
Obama 170 million = good
Gotta love the media.
How many billions are spent each day on that little invasion of Iraq, AmWay?
“We are the keepers of this legacy. Guided by these principles once more, we can meet those new threats that demand even greater effort – even greater cooperation and understanding between nations. We will begin to responsibly leave Iraq to its people, and forge a hard-earned peace in Afghanistan. With old friends and former foes, we will work tirelessly to lessen the nuclear threat, and roll back the specter of a warming planet. We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you.”
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I’M A GONNA HOLDIM TO IT . . . . peace
“What the cynics fail to understand is that the ground has shifted beneath them, that the stale political arguments that have consumed us for so long no longer apply.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/20/AR2009012003968.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
someone needs to educate Predestined why we went to Iraq
01 Whereas in 1990 in response to Iraq’s war of aggression against and illegal occupation of Kuwait, the United States forged a coalition of nations to liberate Kuwait and its people in order to defend the national security of the United States and enforce United Nations Security Council resolutions relating to Iraq
Yeah Davis, the singing of “na na na…” was totally classless and rude.
Is that the stale argument you are talking about?
In order to get respect, one has to give respect. President Bush and his wife did without question bend over backwards to help with the Obama transition.
The way President Bush act was classy and beyond self-importance.
The attitude of the immature left is despicable and totally classless.
What goes around…
no attacks on US soil since 9-11 .. that was not an accident libs . . . no accident
remember 9-11 ?? .. I will never forget that day . . .
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5370762387415552903&q=bob+bri++911&ei=P-9jSM6FKYP8rQLdtZmBDQ
Dadman trots out the immortal lies of the right-wing.
Obama’s inauguration cost the exactly the same as Bush’s. BushCo. just left out the cost for “security,” while TeamObama put it in.
When you look at the same numbers, you see that they are . . . uh . . . the same numbers.
02 Whereas after the liberation of Kuwait in 1991, Iraq entered into a United Nations sponsored cease-fire agreement pursuant to which Iraq unequivocally agreed, among other things, to eliminate its nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons programs and the means to deliver and develop them, and to end its support for international terrorism.
is Predestined listening ??????
GMC, the past master of the glib parroting of conventional wisdumb opines that “[Obama showed civility] As did the outgoing administration.”
Big deal. The men convicted at Nuremburg comported themselves well too during the trial.
I guess in CON world, it’s fine to torture seven people to death–as BushCons did at Gitmo–as long as you smile and nod jovially at public events.
If Reggie doesn’t like it, it must be good:
Na na na nah
Na na na nah
Hey, hey
GOOD BYE!
Predestined .. WHY DID WE GO TO IRAQ ???? . . .
03 Whereas the efforts of international weapons inspectors, United States intelligence agencies, and Iraqi defectors led to the discovery that Iraq had large stockpiles of chemical weapons and a large scale biological weapons program, and that Iraq had an advanced nuclear weapons development program that was much closer to producing a nuclear weapon than intelligence reporting had previously indicated.
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Joint Resolution passed by BOTH HOUSES of Congress to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq .. that means the libs too Predestined
To read his words literally, Mr. Obama blamed no one other than the country itself, critiquing “our collective failure to make hard choices” and a willingness to suspend national ideals “for expedience’s sake” — a clear reference to the cascade of decisions ranging from interrogation policies to wiretapping to the invasion of Iraq.
Yet not since 1933, when Franklin D. Roosevelt called for a “restoration” of American ethics and “action, and action now” as Herbert Hoover sat and seethed, has a new president so publicly rejected the essence of his predecessor’s path.
And yet what he did say must have come as a bit of a shock to Mr. Bush. No stranger to criticism, over the past eight years he had rarely been forced to sit in silence listening to a speech about how America had gone off the rails on his watch.
Mr. Obama’s recitation of how much had gone wrong was particularly striking to anyone who had followed Mr. Bush around the country, especially during the re-election campaign of 2004, when he said it was his job “to confront problems, not to pass them on to future presidents and future generations.”
Yet Mr. Obama blamed America’s economic peril on an era “of greed and irresponsibility on the part of some,” and talked of how “the ways we use energy strengthen our adversaries and threaten our planet.” It was an explicit critique of an administration that went to war in the Middle East but rejected the shared sacrifice of conservation, and reluctantly embraced the scientific evidence around global warming.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/21/us/politics/21assess.html?_r=1&hp
In your face, BushCONs, in your face
CapnAmerica, Posted January 21, 2009 at 9:47 am
Na na na nah
Na na na nah
Hey, hey
GOOD BYE!
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What was it that our new prez said as he praphrased St. Paul, and said that “the time has come to set aside childish things.”
Let it go…it’s time to act your age and not your shoe size.
Dadman–
As usual, you CONs ignore the context of how that resolution was passed and what it meant.
It was sold to Congress as “give the President the power to go to war so that Saddam will back down.”
Dems did that. True, they were stupid to trust Bush, since the Liar-in-Chief already had plans to invade Iraq since before he took office.
It wasn’t a vote “for the war.” It was a vote of unity to support Bush and show Saddam the US was united and a serious threat to him.
Of course, President Liar then just went right ahead and invaded . . . especially after Hans Blix couldn’t find any evidence of WMD, he had to move fast while he had the momentum of his mad push for war.
The song and booing didn’t phase bush, either he didn’t get it, or more likely, just didn’t care what average folks thought of him.
I don’t mean to exonerate the Dems responsiblity in the debacle that is Iraq.
They are at fault too, for letting themselves get railroaded and not having “the courage to be good” (as Elie Weisel puts it).
But in no way are the Democrats equally responsible for the illegal and immoral war that is taking place even now in Iraq.
Predestined .. WHY DID WE GO TO IRAQ ???? . . .
04 Whereas Iraq, in direct and flagrant violation of the cease-fire, attempted to thwart the efforts of weapons inspectors to identify and destroy Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction stockpiles and development capabilities, which finally resulted in the withdrawal of inspectors from Iraq on October 31, 1998.
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Joint Resolution passed by BOTH HOUSES of Congress to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq .. that means the libs too Predestined
“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.”
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
CJM–
You with your Rush Limbaughs and Michelle Malkins and Ann Coulters and Sean Hannitys and Bill O’Reillys . . .
Here’s another Bible verse for ya: As ye sow, so shall ye reap.
“The song and booing didn’t phase bush, either he didn’t get it, or more likely, just didn’t care what average folks thought of him.”
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I agree! He never cared and wasn’t ever a ‘president of the people.’
My wish for bush is that he lives long enough to see how history treats him! Maybe he can maintain his ability to ignore reality forever.
Dadman–
Thanks for the quote, you dope.
That’s exactly what Clinton did (deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD) by the international sanctions he enforced.
Bush had to get rid of the sanctions to get at the Iraqi oil.
So, American boys had to die for Big Oil.
It’s an old story. As old as war actually.
The rich and powerful use soldiers as “muscle” for their economic empire.
Predestined .. WHY DID WE GO TO IRAQ ???? . . .
05 Whereas in 1998 Congress concluded that Iraq’s continuing weapons of mass destruction programs threatened vital United States interests and international peace and security, declared Iraq to be in “material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations” and urged the President “to take appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution and relevant laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with its international obligations” (Public Law 105-235);
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Joint Resolution passed by BOTH HOUSES of Congress to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq .. that means you liberals too Predestined
“If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”
President Clinton . . . . Feb. 17, 1998
Frontline ran a hour long documentary last night on Obama’s amazing rise to the Presidency.
It dawned on me that the CONs actually helped elect Obama. By their Swift Boating of Al Gore and John Kerry, they made experience a liability.
Their out-of-context quotes about Al Gore “inventing the internet” and demeaning John Kerry’s Silver Star showed that experience was not only not valued, but an actual political negative.
Enter Obama with no experience. He had no record to attack . . . so the CONs didn’t know how to run against him.
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lindainks55
Posted January 21, 2009 at 10:12 am | Permalink
“The song and booing didn’t phase bush, either he didn’t get it, or more likely, just didn’t care what average folks thought of him.”
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I agree! He never cared and wasn’t ever a ‘president of the people.’
My wish for bush is that he lives long enough to see how history treats him! Maybe he can maintain his ability to ignore reality forever.
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I call B.S. Sure it bothered President Bush. I’ve watched the interviews with him, he’s a very observant man.
There was nothing Bush could do about a bunch of ignorant, rude fools.
Knowing Bush, I imagine he would say something like this being asked about it. “Sure it hurt and at the same time I understand free speech.”
George W. Bush is a lot more tolerant that the insensitive vulgarians that mock him.
“Obama with no experience” .. you got that one right Capn
They tried their damnedest to link Rev. Wright’s militant preaching to Obama, but only CONs were buying it. Fox News incessant airing of that one clip over and over again made the CONs sound like what they were–desperate to find dirt on the Dem front-runner.
Without any mud to throw, they just didn’t know what to do . . .
Hey, don’t blame me, dadman.
We ran two candidates with massive experience–Al Gore and John Kerry–and your side beat them over the head with it.
Blame yourself if you don’t like a candidate with no experience.
dadman,
When was Operation Desert Fox? What were the objectives, and results?
What forced the weapons inspectors to leave Iraq in March 2003?
CapnAmerica:
I ask you, how many terrorist attacks have we suffered since “invading” Iraq? One might think that we took the war to the adversary and have continued to deny him the opportunity to re-enter our home. If someone invaded your home, would you be passive and try to talk them out of their intention to demolish your hopes and dreams; take everything that you had worked hard to earn?
I agree that perhaps Saddam and the supposed WMD were not our greatest threat but, the threat was none-the-less there. In one day, over three thousand lost their lives, many still suffer the side-effects of 9/11. My cousin lived 3 miles from the buildings and I have a very close friend that escaped the first tower that was attacked. How many more of your own people would you have suffer before responding to the apparent threat. Would you sacrifice your own family and your own possessions to an intruder or would you fight back?
I have relatives and some very close friends currently in the military that are in Iraq as I write this comment. According to their “first-hand” account, they are not fighting Iraqis, they are fighting with Syrians and Iranians. Their experience has been that the Iraqis are glad that we (the American military force) is there.
American_Way
Posted January 21, 2009 at 9:16 am | Permalink
Obama Spends $170 million on inauguration; America Needs A Big Party”
That’s the figure I read and that includes everything. The 42 million for Bush’s last one (I read 40) also included all the parties and security.
So that would be a pretty good apples to apples comparison.
Such a shame to waste money – while your nation is in financial crises, and people loosing their homes
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Actually, AMway – you’re wrong. Bush’s 2005 inauguration figure is wrong. The TOTAL expenses were $115.5 million – your figure you conveniently quote is what the Bush supporters paid and some of that went towards security.
But let’s think about this truthfully – Obama’s inauguration was attended by at least three times the number of people that attended Bush’s in 2005. More people = more security needed = more money spent for security.
If you’re going to compare apples to apples – then I would suggest you get two apples next time – okay?
CapnAmerica
Posted January 21, 2009 at 10:10 am
“Here’s another Bible verse for ya: As ye sow, so shall ye reap.”
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Remember those words…sometimes you get what you ask for. Don’t cry when you get it.
Maybe Bush did exactly what bin Laden wanted him to do? The 9/11 WTC attacked the heart of our financial system, did it not? And Bush has had our country in a quagmire in Iraq for the last 7 years – has he not? And Bush had us spending how many billions on a unwinnable war?
Our country is in a financial mess and yet you and the rest of the Bush supporters continue to say Bush has kept us safe?
Safe from what? We are still at the mercy of the terrorists in our dependence on Middle East oil. We are a debtor nation, our infrastructure is in need of repair and our schools are failing students every day – but yet because Bush has us stuck in Ifraq – you feel safer?
Fortunately, the majority of Americans do not see things as rosy as you do when it comes to George W. Bush.
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 21, 2009 at 10:27 am | Permalink
dadman,
When was Operation Desert Fox? What were the objectives, and results?
What forced the weapons inspectors to leave Iraq in March 2003?
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How many times and to what effect had Iraq violated U.N. resolutions, fired upon our aircraft and used ‘oil for food’ to re-arm themselves?
Your argument is impotent cosmos.
“CJM” asks –
…how many terrorist attacks have we suffered since “invading” Iraq?
Remember the 4,500 flag-draped boxes that were flown back to the states?
Oh, wait…
No, you don’t.
Out of sight, out of mind.
And you Bushies are most certainly out of your minds.
CJM – what good is it to be in Iraq fighting when the Iraqi prime minister al Maliki is being best friends with the Iranian president? al Maliki promised to provide Iran security from the US troops in Iraq last year – or did you not hear that bit of news? Is the new Iraqi government really on our side or do they just want our billions?
CapnAmerica, Posted January 21, 2009 at 9:47 am
Na na na nah
Na na na nah
Hey, hey
GOOD BYE!
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CapnAmerica
Posted January 21, 2009 at 10:00 am
In your face, BushCONs, in your face
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CapnAmerica, you mention that you were a college athlete. I question that, because I’ve never seen anyone act so totally unfamiliar with winning.
Of course, you said were a wrestler…
Regular posted January 21, 2009 at 10:36 am
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 21, 2009 at 10:27 am | Permalink
dadman,
When was Operation Desert Fox? What were the objectives, and results?
What forced the weapons inspectors to leave Iraq in March 2003?
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How many times and to what effect had Iraq violated U.N. resolutions, fired upon our aircraft and used ‘oil for food’ to re-arm themselves?
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Thank you “dadman”, for explaining why about 4,500 Americans have died over there, many more were injured, and we’ve wasted about a trillion dollars.
But in no way are the Democrats equally responsible for the illegal and immoral war that is taking place even now in Iraq.
In what perverted world do you live in CapnAmerica?
“equally”? Is that a 40/60 thing in your minds eye, or maybe a 90/10?
Democrats joined republicans and voted AYE to send our men and women into harms way where over 4,000 are dead and 30,000 wounded.
So what percentage of that are democrats responsible for heh?
ANSWER: THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THEM ALONG WITH PREZ BUSH. THAT SHOULD BE LESSON FROM THIS SO IT DOES NOT REPEAT ITSELF.FAIL THIS LESSON AND IT WILL.
New era of responsiblity remember?
Monkeyhawk
Posted January 21, 2009 at 10:41 am
Nearly 3,000 civilians dead in one day. My family and friends think that what they are doing in Iraq is a duty that is worth performing to save more civilian lives. When one signs on to be in the United States military, war and death are two risks that should be considered prior to making the decision. I think it is sad that anyone dies as a result of war but, death is always a very real possibility.
“But let’s think about this truthfully”
The numbers attending the actual swearing in do not account for $170 million exorbinant cost of Obama’s day in glory.
It is apples to apples. Obama plans big and spends big.
The media as documented crucified Bush for 42 million. The media glorified Obama for his 170 million.
01 Whereas in 1990 in response to Iraq’s war of aggression against and illegal occupation of Kuwait, the United States forged a coalition of nations to liberate Kuwait and its people in order to defend the national security of the United States and enforce United Nations Security Council resolutions relating to Iraq
Is this your attempt at educating me, dadman?
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 21, 2009 at 10:53 am | Permalink
Regular posted January 21, 2009 at 10:36 am
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 21, 2009 at 10:27 am | Permalink
dadman,
When was Operation Desert Fox? What were the objectives, and results?
What forced the weapons inspectors to leave Iraq in March 2003?
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How many times and to what effect had Iraq violated U.N. resolutions, fired upon our aircraft and used ‘oil for food’ to re-arm themselves?
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Thank you “dadman”, for explaining why about 4,500 Americans have died over there, many more were injured, and we’ve wasted about a trillion dollars.
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I’m not dadman and you absolutely need to stop mixing edited posts of several posters, making it appear other people wrote something they didn’t and referring to them out of context.
dadman,
While I’d be happy to discuss our differing views on Iraq, this isn’t the thread for it.
Predestined .. WHY DID WE GO TO IRAQ ???? . . .
06 Whereas Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region and remains in material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations by, among other things, continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability, actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability, and supporting and harboring terrorist organizations
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Joint Resolution passed by BOTH HOUSES of Congress to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq .. that means you pin-head liberals too Predestined
“Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.”
Madeline Albright . . . . Feb 18, 1998.
“Thank you “dadman”, for explaining why about 4,500 Americans have died over there, many more were injured, and we’ve wasted about a trillion dollars”
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complain to your congressman / senator ya dip :)
Predestined .. WHY DID WE GO TO IRAQ ???? . . .
07 Whereas Iraq persists in violating resolutions of the United Nations Security Council by continuing to engage in brutal repression of its civilian population thereby threatening international peace and security in the region, by refusing to release, repatriate, or account for non-Iraqi citizens wrongfully detained by Iraq, including an American serviceman, and by failing to return property wrongfully seized by Iraq from Kuwait
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Joint Resolution passed by BOTH HOUSES of Congress to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq .. that means you doofis liberals too Predestined
“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.”
Sandy Berger. . . .
Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
dadman,
So you do NOT know WHEN Operation Desert Fox took place? Nor the objectives, and results?
Or you know, but don’t want to compare it to the dates of some of your quotes?
And you do NOT know what forced the weapons inspectors to leave Iraq in March 2003?
“CJM” compares 4,500 dead American troops with –
“Nearly 3,000 civilians dead in one day. My family and friends think that what they are doing in Iraq is a duty that is worth performing to save more civilian lives. “
Sounds as if you, “CJM,” consider military lives less valuable than civilians.
Osama bin Laden is surely keeping score. Shrub’s little Iraqi adventure more than doubled the kill rate of 9/11. And bin Laden still has his job. George WMD Bush is out of work, bemoaning the fact he has to eat Laura’s cooking again.
“Maybe not six days. Maybe not six weeks. Certainly not as long as six months.”
That was what Shrub promised us… to protect us from WMDs he was CERTAIN we would find in Iraq.
“No weapons of mass destruction? That was a ‘disappointment.’”
Predestined .. WHY DID WE GO TO IRAQ ???? . . .
08 Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people.
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Joint Resolution passed by BOTH HOUSES of Congress to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq .. that means you fruit-cake liberals too Predestined
“We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.”
Letter to President Clinton . . . .
signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.
Here you go cosmos, educate yourself on Operation Desert Fox.
http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/desert_fox/
How many times did Hussein promise to cooperate with inspectors, then break his promise? A lot I would say.
Saddam Hussein violated U.N. sanctions after U.N. sanctions. He tugged on superman’s cape one too many times and got his ass kicked.
LONG LIVE a FREE IRAQ .. the UNIVERSALITY of FREEDOM .. a concept the Liberals reject
Predestined .. WHY DID WE GO TO IRAQ ???? . . .
09 Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States, including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush and by firing on many thousands of occasions on United States and Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council
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Joint Resolution passed by BOTH HOUSES of Congress to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq .. that means you pant-wetting liberals too Predestined
“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”
Rep. Nancy Pelosi . . . . (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.
MH
If you read my post in its entirety you would have noticed that I also expressed the “I think it is sad that anyone dies as a result of war but, death is always a very real possibility.”
Life is precious, no matter who’s life is concerned. However, when one makes certain choices, one must be prepared for the consequence of that choice.
Let me make this perfectly clear for you; When one joins the military, war and death are very real possibilities. The U.S. military is not made up of a bunch of Boy Scout activities. They do not go camping and fishing to earn merit badges. Membership knows that they may be faced with life or death situations and for the most part, they are trained for those possibilities. The civilians that died as a result of the cowardly attacks on the WTC had no such expectation. They were at work, the day started like any other day for most of them. Our military personnel should be fully aware of the risks involved in their daily duties and when they swore to defend the USA they accepted those possibilities.
There have been no terrorist attacks on American soil since 9/11. Bush protected us.
But as I recall, 9/11 happened on Bush’s watch. Too bad he wasn’t watching BEFORE 9/11.
dadman,
Thank you for proving my points.
IRAQ . . . the way it was
http://www.9neesan.com/massgraves
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XXX
Posted January 21, 2009 at 11:27 am | Permalink
There have been no terrorist attacks on American soil since 9/11. Bush protected us.
But as I recall, 9/11 happened on Bush’s watch. Too bad he wasn’t watching BEFORE 9/11.
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Bush is not omniscient, he can’t predict when an attack will happen nor could he have foreseen the 911 attack.
The blame lies within the intelligence community which was severely weakened during the Clinton years.
XXX
Posted January 21, 2009 at 11:27 am : “But as I recall, 9/11 happened on Bush’s watch. Too bad he wasn’t watching BEFORE 9/11.”
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Too bad that those before him weren’t watching. This didn’t happen overnight while G.W. was sleeping.
Mr. Clinton was aware of this possibility but was busy “fiddling” while Rome burned.
Chemical Aerial Attack by Saddam’s Regime, March 1988
http://www.9neesan.com/halapja
“CJM” says, in effect –
Those in the military had it coming.
Here’s the theme song for George WMD Bush apologists:
When you find youself in danger,
When you’re threatened by a stranger,
When it looks like you will take a lickin’,
(puk, puk, puk)
There is someone waiting,
Who will hurry up and rescue you,
Just Call for Super Chicken!
(puk, ack!)
Fred, if you’re afraid you’ll have to overlook it,
Besides you knew the job was dangerous when you took it (puk, ack!)
He will drink his super sauce
And throw the bad guys for a loss
And he will bring them in alive and kickin’
(puk, puk, puk)
There is one thing you should learn
When there is no one else to turn to
Call for Super Chicken! (puk, puk, puk)
Call for Super Chicken! (puk, ack!)
Fortunately, “Super Chicken” is no longer in the Oval Office.
Predestined .. WHY DID WE GO TO IRAQ ???? . . .
10 Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq
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Joint Resolution passed by BOTH HOUSES of Congress to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq .. that means you HEAD-IN-THE-SAND liberals too Predestined
“Hussein has … chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.”
Madeline Albright, . . . .
Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
All the CONs’ attempts to recycle 1998 rhetoric regarding Saddam Hussein’s alleged WMD threat seem to ignore the vivid and irrefutable fact, in 2003 there were no WMDs in Iraq when Shrub invaded.
The lesson: Clinton’s approach worked.
George WMD Bush sent more than 4,500 Americans to die in vain. For no reason. In response to no threat.
Meanwhile, Osama bin Laden still has his job.
Dumbya is in
the dustbin of historyCrawford, Texas.http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/
“Shaking Hands: Iraqi President Saddam Hussein greets Donald Rumsfeld, then special envoy of President Ronald Reagan, in Baghdad on December 20, 1983.”
Oh, Bushco had reasons, MH. They just weren’t the reasons given. ;)
The 1991 Gulf War should have been the clue. We swallowed those lies, so why not more?
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 21, 2009 at 11:47 am | Permalink
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/
“Shaking Hands: Iraqi President Saddam Hussein greets Donald Rumsfeld, then special envoy of President Ronald Reagan, in Baghdad on December 20, 1983.”
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Another avoidance to deal with reality cosmos? That was from another time and different circumstances.
Can’t you reference your desmog blog for an answer cosmos?
Dadman whining about freedom? I’m thinking from all the scripture he throws around, he probably doesnt think those freedoms should apply to ALL Americans, even while he supports the waste of blood and treasure to enrich halliburton and blackwater.
I wonder what Molly Ivins would say about this?
““It is possible to read the history of this country as one long struggle to extend the liberties established in our Constitution to everyone in America.”
What she didnt say is that the nation has had to fight the “army of god” every damn step of the way.
And it looks to me like we arent even halfway there yet.
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Predestined
Posted January 21, 2009 at 11:49 am | Permalink
Oh, Bushco had reasons, MH. They just weren’t the reasons given. ;)
The 1991 Gulf War should have been the clue. We swallowed those lies, so why not more?
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Yeah, they were just Kuwaittis being attack, they’re Arab they’re not human right?
And you do know that Hussein had his eye on the prize, Saudi Arabian oil fields.
attacked*
Regular posted January 21, 2009 at 11:55 am
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Predestined
Posted January 21, 2009 at 11:49 am | Permalink
Oh, Bushco had reasons, MH. They just weren’t the reasons given. ;)
The 1991 Gulf War should have been the clue. We swallowed those lies, so why not more?
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Yeah, they were just Kuwaittis being attack, they’re Arab they’re not human right?
And you do know that Hussein had his eye on the prize, Saudi Arabian oil fields.
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Yeah, like the PR lies about babies left to die, when their incubators were stolen.
And we know who had their eyes on Iraq’s oil. . .
MH
Call it what you want…you’re so far of in left field that you can’t even see the trees let alone the forest.
Sounds like the feathered primate thinks that the USA had it coming.
Mr. Clinton can be credited with getting us involved in Iraq, not G.H.W. or G.W. or did you forget about that?
President Bill Clinton, December 16, 1998: “Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.”
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/transcripts/clinton.html
CJM. . .
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/
“Shaking Hands: Iraqi President Saddam Hussein greets Donald Rumsfeld, then special envoy of President Ronald Reagan/b>, in Baghdad on December 20, 1983.”
Predestined .. WHY DID WE GO TO IRAQ ???? . . .
11 Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of American citizens
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Joint Resolution passed by BOTH HOUSES of Congress to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq .. that means you COULD CARE LESS ABOUT SUFFERING AROUND THE WORLD liberals too Predestined
cosmos_originally
Posted January 21, 2009 at 12:08 pm | Permalink
Regular posted January 21, 2009 at 11:55 am
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Predestined
Posted January 21, 2009 at 11:49 am | Permalink
Oh, Bushco had reasons, MH. They just weren’t the reasons given. ;)
The 1991 Gulf War should have been the clue. We swallowed those lies, so why not more?
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Yeah, they were just Kuwaittis being attack, they’re Arab they’re not human right?
And you do know that Hussein had his eye on the prize, Saudi Arabian oil fields.
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Yeah, like the PR lies about babies left to die, when their incubators were stolen.
And we know who had their eyes on Iraq’s oil. .
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Wrong cosmos, not even close.
You really are clueless without your far left blogs assisting you aren’t you?
“There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.”
Letter to President Bush . . . .
Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001
c_o
…and at one time, we were allies with Russia. What are you trying to say? Are you havung difficulty finding someone to plagurize in defense of your leftist views?
Predestined .. WHY DID WE GO TO IRAQ ???? . . .
12 Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001 underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist organizations
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Joint Resolution passed by BOTH HOUSES of Congress to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq .. that means you itchn to go to Darfur liberals too Predestined
“We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.”
Sen. Carl Levin . . . .
(d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
c_o
…and at one time, we were allies with Russia. What are you trying to say? Are you having difficulty finding someone to plagiarize in defense of your leftist views?
corrected spelling so that you could understand.
“The 1991 Gulf War should have been the clue. We swallowed those lies, so why not more?”
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Now from what I remember .. it was the LEFT who was saying that G H W Bush FAILED in 1991 .. because he refused to take that LEFT-HAND turn to Bagdhad to finish-off Sadam Hussein . . . . HUSSEIN .. that is what I remember
Monkeyhawk boasts..
“The lesson: Clinton’s approach worked.”
“Meanwhile, Osama bin Laden still has his job.”
Because Clinton didn’t take care of him when he KNEW Bin Laden was behind the death of Americans at two embassies and a naval ship.
Clinton was responsible for 3,000 dead on 9/11.
Joint Resolution passed by BOTH HOUSES of Congress to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq .. that means you itchn to go to Darfur liberals too Predestined
Maybe you’d like to rewrite everything beyond the elipses? It makes no sense.
As for the rest, BOTH HOUSES were wrong.
I’ll leave it at that.
AmWay=still waggin’ the dog
“As for the rest, BOTH HOUSES were wrong”
then quit putting ALL-OF-YOUR-BLAME-ON-BUSH . . . you moron
“I’ll leave it at that”
WHAT !!! you out of Ammo Predestined ????
Predestined .. WHY DID WE GO TO IRAQ ???? . . .
13 Whereas Iraq’s demonstrated capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi regime will either employ those weapons to launch a surprise attack against the United States or its Armed Forces or provide them to international terrorists who would do so, and the extreme magnitude of harm that would result to the United States and its citizens from such an attack, combine to justify action by the United States to defend itself.
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Joint Resolution passed by BOTH HOUSES of Congress to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq .. that means you rear-view-mirror liberals too Predestined
“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”
Al Gore . . . .
Sept. 23, 2002
Clinton was responsible for 3,000 dead on 9/11
I agree
9-11 .. WE WILL NEVER FORGET .. too bad that the left-wing-liberal-democrat-secular-humanistic-national-socialist-atheists – “non-religious” yeah right individual/s HAVE FORGOTTEN
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5370762387415552903&q=bob+bri++911&ei=P-9jSM6FKYP8rQLdtZmBDQ
President Bill Clinton, December 16, 1998: “Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.”
Well there ya go! That’s why Bush didn’t find any.
Clinton blew em all up!
yeah .. that is if you consider baby-asprin and a night custodian .. WMDs LOL
then quit putting ALL-OF-YOUR-BLAME-ON-BUSH . . . you moron
Dadman, it’s not that they are all morons.There are some very intelligent liberals. It’s that they can’t think. Independent thinking requires logic and reason. They also tend to be forgetful.
They cannot admit their party voted for the war and when their party gained control: Gave Bush every dollar he ever asked for funding the continuation of the war.
It’s in the drink they are provided or that daily tape recording. I’m not sure which.
dadman, you have your tales mixed up. Wrong country.
baby-asprin and a night custodian
I think that was not in Iraq. Different event.
Hey: Have you been into the koolaid too?
WHAT !!! you out of Ammo Predestined ????
I simply find that presenting facts to the brainwashed masses of the right is an effort in futility. But you just keep posting. Wash, rinse, and repeat.
Anyone ever explained why 9-11 occurred in the first place? Anyone ever hear of blowback? We brought 9-11 on ourselves by trying to bend other peoples’ wills to our own.
That bullsh_t about them hating our freedom is just that.
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American_Way
Posted January 21, 2009 at 1:14 pm | Permalink
baby-asprin and a night custodian
I think that was not in Iraq. Different event.
Hey: Have you been into the koolaid too?
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Wasn’t it a baby formula factory?
You know, those Air Force pilots get soy milk and missile launchers confused easily, they are so much alike.
Posters here are unable to refute the truth about the M-E region (oil, lies about baby incubators, etc). And they are unable to understand the difference between the AUMF (which provided “leverage” for inspections) and the C-in-C giving a command. So they (as usual) resort to using irrelevant ad hominems.
Denial and ad hominems are vital parts of the Republican ideology.
American_Way . . . you are too graceful
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cosmos_originally
Posted January 21, 2009 at 1:22 pm | Permalink
Posters here are unable to refute the truth about the M-E region (oil, lies about baby incubators, etc). And they are unable to understand the difference between the AUMF (which provided “leverage” for inspections) and the C-in-C giving a command. So they (as usual) resort to using irrelevant ad hominems.
Denial and ad hominems are vital parts of the Republican ideology.
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Well cosmos, that was an alphabet soup of absolute meaningless tripe.
But please do try again and try to make sense the next time you are talking to educated adults.
“I simply find that presenting facts to the brainwashed masses of the right is an effort in futility. But you just keep posting. Wash, rinse, and repeat”
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Thank you Pre . . . . I will
And thank you Regular, for proving my points.
in the mean-time .. maybe “grateful_dave” can go over to the ME and explain to the Muslim-world the definition of “blow-back” . . . hmmmm ??
Notice how the liberals always have an excue for their comrade Islamics ??? .. it’s very telling
excuse me . . . . excuse
Let’s see how long it takes Obama to get us out of Iraq and Afghanistan.
How are we supposed to communicate with these freakn liberals when they go hide in the ditch like that ?? . . . it’s very frustrating . . . GOSH !!!!
Anyone have a guess on how long?
I don’t have to go over to the ME and explain blow-back. They’re living it. As are we. And if you don’t think OBL was a direct result of our tinkering over there, then there’s nothing more to say, except….THEY HATE OUR FREEDOMS!!!
But we do know that they LOVE liberals like you Dave .. they have told us that
yeah .. that is if you consider baby-asprin and a night custodian .. WMDs LOL
Wasn’t nearly as bad as that restaurant full of people being blown up, just because of a tip that Saddam was there.
ok . . . i’m officially board now . . . I’ll just finish out my “right-wing-diatribe”
PS: please don’t tell anyone I said this . . .
BUT . . . Caruso-n-crew are going to be “graced”
by a few ’surprise-guests’ during her little Bush-Bash this coming Friday evening at the Anchor on East Douglas ..
BYO recorder/s .. outta be fun :)
“BAGHDAD (AP) – Iraq is willing to have the U.S. withdraw all its troops and assume security for the country before the end of 2011, the departure date agreed to by former President George W. Bush, the spokesman of the Iraqi prime minister said.
Spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh made the comment Tuesday, a day before President Barack Obama and his senior commanders were to meet in Washington to discuss the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Obama promised during the campaign to withdraw all U.S. combat troops from Iraq within 16 months of taking office. The new president said in his inaugural address Tuesday that he would “begin to responsibly leave Iraq to its people”
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Will it be before the end of 2011?
What about Afghanistan?
“Wasn’t nearly as bad as that restaurant full of people being blown up, just because of a tip that Saddam was there”
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Really Phantom .. it’s almost as bad as 9 Muslims flying planes into the Twin-Towers where they knew over 3000 people WOULD be there . . . freakn donkeys
Hey, c_o: You proved how “gullible” you are. Your intelligence has been brought into question and thus your postings will always be suspect.
donndublin
Posted January 21, 2009:
“Will it be before the end of 2011?
What about Afghanistan?”
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Sounds like Mr. Obama had already began changing his tune prior to his coronation…inauguration.
January 14, “He (Mr. Obama) pledged during his campaign to remove all combat troops from Iraq by May 2010 and to refocus on Afghanistan. However, he has said that he would consult with military commanders first and adjust his timeline if it would risk the safety of U.S. troops remaining behind to train Iraqis and fight al-Qaida or if it would cause backsliding in Iraqi stability” (Loven).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090114/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_wars
CJM, from your link:
“Biden said “things are going to get tougher in Afghanistan” before they improve. Graham agreed, predicting that “casualties are likely to increase” in Afghanistan as the number of U.S. troops there goes up this year.
The U.S. is rushing as many as 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan, seeking to the turn the tide in fighting that has seen al-Qaida-linked militants and the Taliban make a comeback after initial defeats in the U.S.-led invasion in 2001.”
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Where’s the outrage from the libs to get out of Afhanistan the way they were outraged by Bush’s policies?
IDK, dd
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Posted January 21, 2009 at 1:45 pm | Permalink
PS: please don’t tell anyone I said this . . .
BUT . . . Caruso-n-crew are going to be “graced”
by a few ’surprise-guests’ during her little Bush-Bash this coming Friday evening at the Anchor on East Douglas ..
BYO recorder/s .. outta be fun :)
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I would reccomend leaving them alone to celebrate what ever it is they’re celebrating.
It will be mostly family and friends of Mary and some of her husband’s friends at work.
A few of the people from the BLOG may show, but not the extreme lefty nitwits that hide behind a nic to spew their hate.
They have graciously extended a sincere invitation to anyone on the BLOG that would like to attend. If you go, please respect their fun and their right to celebrate.
The total a$$holes on both of the extreme ends of the political spectrum will not attend. The ones you wish to embarrass have not the ba11s to show.
The USSR went into Afghanistan and got their butts kicked. We’ll see how well we fare in the same situation. Anyone care to opine?
“Joint Resolution passed by BOTH HOUSES of Congress to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq .. that means you rear-view-mirror liberals too Predestined”
Last time I looked, dadman, a “Resolution” is NOT a LAW… It was an authorization to use force, if necessary, against Iraq… It was not an authorization to INVADE the country… And, it was not a formal declaration… since no reason existed to declare war on Iraq…
Hint: There were NO WMD in Iraq…
So, what was the REAL reason for the invasion??
Hank — For the record, if I was going to be in Wichita Friday evening, I would attend… But I will be out of town this weekend… Oh well, my loss….
dadman
Posted January 21, 2009 at 1:45 pm | Permalink
PS: please don’t tell anyone I said this . . .
BUT . . . Caruso-n-crew are going to be “graced”
by a few ’surprise-guests’ during her little Bush-Bash this coming Friday evening at the Anchor on East Douglas ..
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Mercy sakes, dadman… That looks a little bit like some sort of veiled threat to dirupt the festivities…. how shameful of you!
dirupt = disrupt
” BUT . . . Caruso-n-crew are going to be “graced”
by a few ’surprise-guests’ during her little Bush-Bash this coming Friday evening at the Anchor on East Douglas ..
BYO recorder/s .. outta be fun :)”
I’ll just give that a third airing.
Anything happens? This will prove premeditation. You’re not very bright are ya dadman?
Why would a person want to do anything other than have fun at a party? If you enjoy meeting people, speaking without keyboards, laughing — then by all means attend.
Psalm 41
41:1 Happy are those who consider the poor; the LORD delivers them in the day of trouble.
41:2 The LORD protects them and keeps them alive; they are called happy in the land. You do not give them up to the will of their enemies.
41:3 The LORD sustains them on their sickbed; in their illness you heal all their infirmities.
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This speaks great words for how the poor ought to be treated… I wonder of some dont have these verses in their books??
Good comparison, bush and 9/11 fanatics.
“Wasn’t nearly as bad as that restaurant full of people being blown up, just because of a tip that Saddam was there”
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Really Phantom .. it’s almost as bad as 9 Muslims flying planes into the Twin-Towers where they knew over 3000 people WOULD be there . . . freakn donkeys
BUT . . . Caruso-n-crew are going to be “graced”
by a few ’surprise-guests’ during her little Bush-Bash this coming Friday evening at the Anchor on East Douglas ..
BYO recorder/s .. outta be fun :)
Oh, let’s make it four times, BlueJay!
I think the ’surprise-guests’ will be the ones surprised.
And now I have even more reason to be there!
Has XXX said if he’s going to be there?
If he’s there, the CONs are going to be perfect gentlemen . . . hehehe . . .
He just has that effect on people.
Dear Dick Cheney–
Now that your official duties are over, please take Bush hunting.
Feel free to drink lots of beer before and even during.
Thank you,
Uncle Sam
Cons are always quick to try and resort to intimidation.
Have to modify that, after reading HLP’s post, to most cons., or more aptly, red neck cons.
Holy hen if all that’s needed to be a great president is to keep attacks off american soil, then I suppose Carter and Clinton did a fantastic job too right boys?
I hope you don’t include me in that far left hide behind my nic group, because you know full well I’m not afraid to show my face.
That’s the post bush legacy, if an attack on our soil doesn’t occur during your presidency,you’ve done your job.
My question does other presidents get one freebie?
I might drop by just to see Hank. If XXX goes it will be a two-fer. Always willing to shake the hands of ex-military (Navy and Marines).
Hate driving at night though, might take a cab – reduced vision and all.
Let the Magnificient Repudiation begin:
“One of President Barack Obama’s first acts is to order federal agencies to halt all pending regulations until his administration can review them.
“The order went out Tuesday afternoon, shortly after Obama was inaugurated president, in a memorandum signed by new White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel. The notice of the action was contained in the first press release sent out by Obama’s White House, and it came from deputy press secretary Bill Burton.”
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First thing Obama did: stop everything Bush was doing!
Good start. Damn good start.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_01/016547.php
Senate Republicans hope to delay a vote on the confirmation of Eric Holder to become attorney general in order to pressure him to say whether he will prosecute intelligence agents for torture if they were following orders and acting within what they believed to be legal guidelines.
Holder told the Judiciary Committee last week that waterboarding is “torture” and therefore illegal. Susan J. Crawford, the top Bush administration official overseeing the trials of detainees, told the Washington Post that at least one individual held at the prison center at Guantanamo Bay was “tortured.”
The question Republicans want answered before Holder is confirmed: Will you prosecute those who took part in that torture?
Nah, P-Mom,
I wasn’t referring to you. I’ve met you, you’re a delightful person.
He11, you’re even pretty enough to be a republican!
Bush isn’t held in contempt solely for the unwarranted war, although that is a contributing factor. Had we not invaded Iraq he would still be held as a failure.
“Bush isn’t held in contempt solely for the unwarranted war,…”
Your people, as has been shown up thread, voted for the damn thing.
Response, “But, but, we didn’t know he would really do it”!
I ain’t going, Regular. The boy ain’t going. I don’t think XXX is going, he may.
Ain’t skeered, just don’t care to go. Mary will give me one of Dave’s beers anytime I want one and I don’t have to put up with a bunch of liberal Yuppies at the Anchor!
Sorry, Hank, but I’m far from a Yuppie. Liberal, yes. Yuppie, uh, not even close.
It would be difficult for me to call any of our liberal WEBloggers “Yuppies.” Interesting, intelligent, thoughtful, fun people is what I’d call them!
If Rick Warren and Barak Obama can model civility, how about all us bloggers? Can we try to shed light on what we think is important; or must we indulge our angry natures by name-calling and other vituperations.
I thought the purpose of the blog was to share ideas, not insults.
Just in case someone missed it…
WASHINGTON – After the flub heard around the world, President Barack Obama has taken the oath of office. Again. Chief Justice John Roberts delivered the oath to Obama on Wednesday night at the White House — a rare do-over. The surprise moment came in response to Tuesday’s much-noticed stumble, when Roberts got the words of the oath a little off, which prompted Obama to do so, too.
Don’t worry, the White House says: Obama has still been president since noon on Inauguration Day.
Nevertheless, Obama and Roberts went through the drill again out of what White House counsel Greg Craig called “an abundance of caution.”
This time, the scene was the White House Map Room in front of a small group of reporters, not the Capitol platform before the whole watching world.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090122/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_oath_do_over
Did you think a Constitutional lawyer wouldn’t have a do-over?
“I thought the purpose of the blog was to share ideas, not insults.” — janeeyre
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It would be nice if we could even agree to respect fellow bloggers and reserve our insults and criticisms for public people. We sure have enough of those that are deserving. Plus, didn’t they ask for our critique when they applied for public jobs — especially those paid with tax dollars!
“Did you think a Constitutional lawyer wouldn’t have a do-over?” — Predestined
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One who taught Constitutional law! Not to mention one who respects the Constitution.
Just to let you all know..EVERYONE is invited Friday night. And I’d love to be surprised by a few that I didn’t think would show up!
See ya Friday!