Too hard on Caroline Kennedy?

While joining the crowd making sport of Caroline Kennedy’s “you know” and “like” habit, the New York Times’ Maureen Dowd pushed back at the harsh reaction to Kennedy’s self-promotion to get the appointment to New York’s open Senate seat. She wrote: “I found it bizarre that when Caroline offered to use her magic capital – and friendship with Barack Obama – to help take care of New York in this time of economic distress, she was blasted by a howl of ‘How dare she?’ People are suddenly awfully choosy about who gets to go to the former home of Jesse Helms, Strom Thurmond and Robert Torricelli.” And, we could add, Larry Craig, David Vitter, Ted Stevens, David Durenberger, Bob Packwood. . . .
Dowd concluded: “It isn’t what your name is. It’s what you do with it. Or, in the case of W., don’t.”

110 Comments

  1. Maggotpunk
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 6:06 am | Permalink

    Some of us Democrats like our candidates qualified with experience rather than having a famous last name and pretty looks. I prefer to leave that to the Republicans.

  2. Mary_Caruso
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 6:30 am | Permalink

    I think she could do as well as anyone..remember the “lack of experiece” was one of the biggest Republican complaints regarding Obama’s political career?

  3. Maggotpunk
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 6:34 am | Permalink

    Mary, you know perfectly well when a Republican says something it really doesn’t mean anything. They’re the same bunch who hates Hollywood elites but elects people like Reagan, Schwarzenegger, Bono, that old guy in the 2008 primary, etc. Next thing you know they’ll be complaining that not all the votes are counted in an election and will support court trials in order to get a good recount, but blame Gore for wanting the same thing.

    Nah, Republicans opinions are worthless, or should I say Republicans are worthless having gotten us into another Republican recession.

  4. Maggotpunk
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 6:35 am | Permalink

    However, if Kennedy ran as a Republican then she’d be experienced enough.

  5. JMWalker
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 6:53 am | Permalink

    She hardly qualifies for any office. Her non-voting record says as much about her as one needs to know.

  6. BlueJay
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 6:54 am | Permalink

    I don’t care to listen to criticism of Caroline Kennedy from the party of bush, Palin, and Larry Craig.

  7. Political_mama
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 6:55 am | Permalink

    THE very fact that we’re comparing Kennedy to Palin is telling. They are on the same level.

    Notice how many liberals are booing Kennedy? And how many cons are still supporting Palin?

  8. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 7:00 am | Permalink

    I loved how Sarah Palin resents Caroline Kennedy’s supposed “kid glove treatment.”

    Dunno if you’ve seen this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-95wkCMeUkk

    The poor ol’ Moose-Dresser was a sacrificial lamb. She was a media stunt.

    And she nearly stole the show away from the just-nominated Obama and McCain himself. She got nothing but praise from all media for a couple of weeks; the new Mary Richards to the Republican Lou Grant.

    And then we got to know her. After about the 1000th time she said she said, “Thanks, but no thanks,” to the feds for the Bridge to Nowhere money, somebody decided to look up what she really said.

    Oops.

    I’m not sure but I’d be willing to bet her ex-brother-in-law is pretty dickish (what cops don’t have a little of that in their DNA?) and probably shouldn’t represent the color of law for the great state of Alaska. If I were Governor I might want the state troopers look into his fitness on the job, given what Palin knows (or think she knows) about how he’d treated her sister.

    A true “maverick would have said, “Heck, yes, Charlie. My ex-brother-in-law is unfit to be a trooper. I’m the Governor. I’m responsible for putting good men and women in state troopers’ uniforms, don’tcha know?”

    Instead, she lied.

    She’s the PERFECT candidate for the Republic Party in 2012!

    Trig and Trip and Trogg (?) will be four years older and Piper will be old enough to get pregnant out of wedlock.

    Her preacher will have exorcised all the witches out of Wasilla by then.

    Levi’s mom might be out of the slammer by then.

    And if life insurance actuarial charts are right, John McCain will die and the Moose-Dresser/Snow-Machine widow will be able to wear her Coco Channel “Little Black Dress” to the funeral and remind us that — in a parallel universe — she’s already President of the United States.

    Sarah’s big objection is, not surprisingly, “class.”

    She has none.

  9. Mary_Caruso
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 7:00 am | Permalink

    I would hope that Caroline Kennedy has more on the ball than Sarah Palin…PLEASE tell me she does.

  10. BlueJay
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 7:03 am | Permalink

    A doorstop has more on the ball than Sarah Palin.

  11. Mary_Caruso
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 7:05 am | Permalink

    I think my favorite Sarah moment was when she allowed herself to be manipulated by the media into being interviewed with the turkeys being slaughtered in the back ground..and proclaimed while the poor thing was getting it’s neck wrung..”Gee, this is so much fun!”
    She’s SO not very smart.

  12. Boxlock20
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 7:14 am | Permalink

    She is simply an inexperienced ‘empty pant suit’, typical of the depth of reason of the Dim-ocrats to place her in contention for a Senate seat.
    Leading this country is serious business, but her appointment to the Senate would not be.
    I have absolutely nothing against her personally, except that she thinks she should be a Senator with so little experience, but qualified simply because of her last name.
    Heck, my dad was a dentist, we have the same last name, he was a very well respected dentist by his patients and peers. How about I do your next root canal, I’ll do it on the cheap. I mean I’m as qualified to do surgical dentistry as Caroline Kennedy is to be a Senator.

  13. fleettwood
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 7:17 am | Permalink

    You know, like, who cares? It’s the, you know, problem of, like, New York, you know.
    It’s, like, their problem, you know? Like.

  14. BlueJay
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 7:17 am | Permalink

    “Leading this country is serious business, but her appointment to the Senate would not be.”

    Uh huh.

    Sarah Palin. Ronald Reagan. Arnold Scwarzenegger,

    george bush.

  15. rolltide
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 7:35 am | Permalink

    They’re the same bunch who hates Hollywood elites but elects people like Reagan, Schwarzenegger, Bono…
    *****
    Ok and the dems are the party that elected al franken, correct? A man whoes main claim to fame is as a not all that funny comedian?

  16. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 7:37 am | Permalink

    If appointing Caroline Kennedy to Sen. Clinton’s unexpired term would be such a disaster, the Republic Party should praise it.

    It’d be their best opportunity to wrest a Senate seat from New York in 2010.

    You don’t know how much I hope the Moose-Dresser will be the GOP’s standard-bearer in 2012.

  17. BlueJay
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 7:48 am | Permalink

    JC Watts, Jim Ryun, Jack Kemp, Sonny Bono, the guy who played Gopher on “Love Boat”.

    It is the Republicans gave us the habit of electing celebrities to Government. There’s no story here.

    “You don’t know how much I hope the Moose-Dresser will be the GOP’s standard-bearer in 2012.”

    Me too. And she WILL be.

    The kooks on the right shriek the loudest. Against cooler heads they will prevail. Palin should get the same treatment the next 4 years that Hillary Clinton got for the last 16.

  18. outlander
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 7:48 am | Permalink

    #
    Mary_Caruso
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 6:30 am | Permalink

    I think she could do as well as anyone..remember the “lack of experiece” was one of the biggest Republican complaints regarding Obama’s political career?
    ————-

    If you don’t have experience, no one can criticize the way you performed in the job you didn’t do.

    Actually an asset in politics these days, with the media hyenas waiting to spin and misconstrue anything and everything ever said or done.

  19. outlander
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 7:52 am | Permalink

    Of course, if she were applying for a job with that level of responsibility in the private sector, sweet Caroline wouldn’t get an interview.

    And we wonder why our government fails us.

  20. Boxlock20
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 7:54 am | Permalink

    Good point ‘outlander’, yet the Dims are too dimwitted to see it.

  21. Heckler
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 7:57 am | Permalink

    “However, if Kennedy ran as a Republican then she’d be experienced enough.”

    This from the party of Franken?

    gigglesnortchuck.

  22. BlueJay
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 7:58 am | Permalink

    “if she were applying for a job with that level of responsibility in the private sector, sweet Caroline wouldn’t get an interview.”

    Probably true as she has no demonstrated predisposition to corruption, opportunism and greed.

  23. Heckler
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 8:00 am | Permalink

    gigglesnortchuck.

    translates to-

    don’t know whether to laugh or vomit. seriously dems!

  24. BlueJay
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 8:02 am | Permalink

    “don’t know whether to laugh or vomit”

    You could do both and then suffocate?

    Just an idea.

  25. tmann
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 8:07 am | Permalink

    If her last name was Smith, she wouldn’t even be considered, given her prior work experience. Has she ever held a paying job? While some folks in other countries inherit positions of great power (it’s called a monarchy), I don’t think our Constitution has any such provisions.

  26. BlueJay
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 8:12 am | Permalink

    Where would george w be if his father’s name was not bush?

  27. gster
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 8:15 am | Permalink

    “Where would george w be if his father’s name was not bush?”

    “Welcome to Walmart, my name is George, you can call me George.”

  28. Regular
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 8:26 am | Permalink

    It’s up to the people of New York. If they decided, then they can live with any consequences that may occur.

    I have a suspicion that the people of New York want someone with more political savvy than Caroline Kennedy.

  29. American_Way
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 8:28 am | Permalink

    Of course the media is being too hard on Kennedy.
    She’s a democrat!

    She has the same experience Hillary had, minus the running under machine gun and mortar fire.

  30. outlander
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    Are we programmed to recognize and defer to royalty and royal families?

  31. thomaswitt
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 8:34 am | Permalink

    BlueJay Posted January 9, 2009 at 8:02 am
    “don’t know whether to laugh or vomit”
    You could do both and then suffocate?

    Yeah, there’s the way to take the high ground, BlueJay.

    Or perhaps not. Wishing harm on those you disagree with is unacceptable.

  32. Heckler
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 8:37 am | Permalink

    thomaswitt

    B.J. has a long history of making references to violence and death.

    But he’s morally superior.

    So it’s ok, just ignore him.

  33. thomaswitt
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 8:42 am | Permalink

    Heckler,

    There are plenty of your comrades on the “conservative” side who make equally unacceptable comments (i.e. “Regular”). There’s no justification for it from any quarter, quite frankly. The juvenile name-calling is bad enough (not that I haven’t done my share in the past), but there should be a line that, as adults, we don’t cross.

  34. Heckler
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    thomas

    I agree, that line shouldnt be crossed. I don’t.

    Some do, whether out of hatred or insecurity, I don’t understand it.

  35. American_Way
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    Yeah tomaswitt, you take the moral high ground.

    Pot meet kettle:

    thomaswitt
    Posted January 8, 2009 at 12:28 pm | Permalink
    Oh, “American” Way, darling, I

  36. BlueJay
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 9:08 am | Permalink

    “Wishing harm on those you disagree with is unacceptable.”

    Thank you Mary Poppins!

  37. Predestined
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    Lines are not only crossed by the minute here, they’re criss-crossed until there’s nothing left but a mass of pure worthless yuck and muck.

  38. lindainks55
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    I don’t think she has the experience that would make her most effective. She does have adequate education, many life experiences, many influential contacts. I’m not positive whether those life experiences and influential contacts are positives or negatives (could be either!)

    We don’t have the brightest and best serving as our elected officials. So, she is probably as (or more) qualified as others already in office from both major political parties.

  39. thomaswitt
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    “American” Way Darling,

    I already confessed to my own participation in the juvenile name-calling. But tell me, dear, how giving you a pet name is the same as wishing death upon you?

    Hmmm?

    BlueJay,

    I was 4 years old when “Mary Poppins” was in the theaters. I wanted nothing more (back then) than to grow up to be just like Julie Andrews. So, thanks for the compliment!!

  40. lindainks55
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 9:16 am | Permalink

    The best part of Caroline wanting to be Senator is Palin is back in the news, opening her mouth and showing her stupidity. I like any opportunity to keep Palin before the cameras and microphones.

  41. Heckler
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 9:42 am | Permalink

    lind says-

    “opening her mouth and showing her stupidity”

    teeheee.

    You mean Kennedy, right?

  42. HLP
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    Well thomaswitt,

    Let’s be honest about Regular, shall we? Although I’ll agree with you that there doesn’t seem to be much restraint by Regular when he is atacked, at least he waits until he’s attacked. Most of the time his posts are thoughtful, to the point and show great insight.

    The liberals, on the other hand, when responding to one of his posts lead with a personal attck, finish with a personal attack and incluce very little of substance in the mean time.

    Regular very seldom starts the name calling. I do admire the way he finishes it!

  43. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    “HLP” lies –

    “…Regular very seldom starts the name calling.”

    I urge you to bonedig the term “MonkeyHock,” and all the citations I’ve started the name-calling against “Regular.”

  44. WAR
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    “Some of us Democrats like our candidates qualified with experience rather than having a famous last name and pretty looks. I prefer to leave that to the Republicans.”

    It’s so ironic that a few months ago the Demos weren’t at all concerned about the inexperience of their wonderboy. And how they defended his pretty (although hollow) prose. And let’s face it (no pun intended), so, so many people voted for Obama based solely on his looks (not that he’s ‘pretty’ necessarily).

  45. HLP
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    Good morning MonkeyHawk,

    Do you intentionally try to prove my point or does your demonstrated ignorance come naturally?

  46. Regular
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    #
    Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    “HLP” lies –

    “…Regular very seldom starts the name calling.”

    I urge you to bonedig the term “MonkeyHock,” and all the citations I’ve started the name-calling against “Regular.”
    ===========================
    I’ll try to be more cognizant of your tender sensibilities MH. :)

    I’ll whittle your nic down to mere initials and just make it merely impersonal.

  47. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    Good morning yourself, “HLP” –

    I note both you and The Boy started blogging this morning about the same time.

    Did you just get out of bed together?

  48. BlueJay
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    Oh SNAP!

  49. donndublin
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    #
    Maggotpunk
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 6:06 am | Permalink

    Some of us Democrats like our candidates qualified with experience rather than having a famous last name and pretty looks. I prefer to leave that to the Republicans.
    ________________________________

    With a nose like that, I wouldn’t say she had “pretty looks”.

  50. YellowdogLiberal
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    I see the RWers are in their full snarling mode today.
    Dennis

  51. HLP
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    Did you just get out of bed together?
    _________
    Interesting mind you have, MonkeyHawk. Project much?

  52. TomPaine
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    JR, to be fair Cooter from Dukes of Hazzard was a Democrat

  53. fleettwood
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    tee hee cooter

  54. American_Way
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    “giving you a pet name= death threat”

    Don’t put words in my mouth that I did not say.

    GO read what you post. Juvie, name-calling.

    Sorry Thomas, but you are just as bad. Some of the other “pet” names may have been more negative to by degree: but it’s all wrong. That’s the way it progresses. You call someone a lame name, someone calls you a little less lame name.

    But go ahead, continue to justify your insults.
    It’s an opinion. Readers can decide.

  55. JMWalker
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    fleettwood
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 7:17 am | Permalink
    You know, like, who cares? It’s the, you know, problem of, like, New York, you know.
    It’s, like, their problem, you know? Like
    ===================================================
    Which is just the way this ditzzy blonde talks, if one watched her interview. Start her at dog catcher then promote her to money changer on the turnpike.

  56. JMWalker
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    HLP
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 9:43 am | Permalink
    Well thomaswitt,

    Let’s be honest about Regular, shall we? Although I’ll agree with you that there doesn’t seem to be much restraint by Regular when he is atacked, at least he waits until he’s attacked. Most of the time his posts are thoughtful, to the point and show great insight.

    The liberals, on the other hand, when responding to one of his posts lead with a personal attck, finish with a personal attack and incluce very little of substance in the mean time.

    Regular very seldom starts the name calling. I do admire the way he finishes.
    =================================================
    Awww, you must mean the time he wished for XXX’s death.

  57. RFL
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    Important issues for why Sarah Palin is not qualified to be Vice President or anything else for that matter. (According to Issue focused Democrats).

    1. Turkeys getting slaughtered.

    2. Trig is born around the same time Bristol was of child bearing age.

    3. Russia can be seen from an Island in Alaska.

    4. Sarah sends personal emails using a personal email account while serving as governor.

    5. Sarah fires a commissioner. It’s called “Troopergate”.

    6. Sarah can’t tell Katie Curic when McCain voted for more regulation since she never claimed that McCain voted for more regulation.

    7. Sarah does not know what the Bush Doctrine is because Charlie Gibson had not yet defined it.

    Caroline Kennedy is not any of these. The issues matter and these are the issues upon which Democrats critique candidates.

    Therefore, she is fit to be anything she wants. To ask her probing questions and to badger her with criticism is unfair. Back Off.

  58. Topekan
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    The Kennedy/Palin comparison is important. Palin was and is qualified to be president, despite the spin from the leftmedia convincing those with permanent brain cramp (Democrats, that is) that she wasn’t. Princess Caroline isn’t qualified to do anything. That’s not what the leftmedia will say, but they are in the tank for the Democrats, Obama and anything Kennedy .

  59. BlueJay
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    In what aspect Charlie?

  60. donndublin
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

    RFL
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    Important issues for why Sarah Palin is not qualified to be Vice President or anything else for that matter. (According to Issue focused Democrats).

    Caroline Kennedy is not any of these. The issues matter and these are the issues upon which Democrats critique candidates.

    Therefore, she is fit to be anything she wants. To ask her probing questions and to badger her with criticism is unfair. Back Off.
    _____________________

    RFL, you know Real you know Frickin you know Loser you know.

    Go tell the people of Alaska that. Caroline has been elected to nothing. If she is elected then fine.

  61. Phantom
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    palin’s whinning the media has been too easy on Caroline, claiming it’s a class thing. Guess she’s saying Caroline has class, and she doesn’t.

  62. fleettwood
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    This too easy. Who would you do?
    Sara or Caroline?
    I vote Sara.

  63. BlueJay
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    “I vote Sara.”

    Yeah. You would.

    Because you are a moron.

  64. RFL
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    “Palin was and is qualified to be president,”

    No she isn’t. She was videotaped with a turkey being slaughtered in the background.

    Successful vice presidents are not videotaped with a turkey being slaughtered in the background.
    Therefore, this proof that Palin is unqualified.

    You Republicans out there need to get a clue as to what issues are really important in discussing the fitness of a politican for office. Issue number one is the most important right now and that is that she (Palin) was videotaped with a turkey being slaughtered in the background.

    Caroline Kennedy has not been videotaped in such a manner. She will be fantastic.

  65. BlueJay
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    “. She was videotaped with a turkey being slaughtered in the background.”

    Exactly. She clearly has no political or any other kind of sense. What idiot let’s that be the backdrop for an interview?

    But as I say, if she is in the primaries, I’ll switch parties and caucus for her.

  66. lindainks55
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    See? This is absolutely the best part of Caroline wanting to be a Senator! We have the opportunity to hear Palin speak into microphones again.

    GO Sarah! PALIN 2012!

    You betcha!

  67. lindainks55
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    Why Palin Still Matters

    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/11/why-palin-still.html

  68. Mr_Kia
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

    I have no idea how you say Sarah Palin is unqualified and Caroline Kennedy is qualified with a straight face.

  69. Regular
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    So, instead of discussing Caroline Kennedy and her run for the Senate, Libs put in things about Sarah Palin?

    Talk about your limited concept of intelligent thought and inability to discuss a topic rationally – the Libs have faltered and can’t come up anything close to an adult conversation.

  70. Mr_Kia
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    RE: The Turkey slaughter. Unless you are a vegan I don’t know why you care.

  71. lindainks55
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    I have no idea how you say Sarah Palin is unqualified and Caroline Kennedy is qualified with a straight face.

    There are 70 posts here and not a one says anything close to that!

  72. Mr_Kia
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    Just a generality Linda. She does have supporters that howled about Governor Palin’s qualifications.

  73. lindainks55
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    So, instead of discussing Caroline Kennedy and her run for the Senate, Libs put in things about Sarah Palin?

    —-

    Most of us stated our opinions of Caroline Kennedy and then further stated the best part of it is what Palin has to say on the subject.

    If Palin is to be the future of the GOP you’ll probably hear people state their opinions of her words and reactions to what’s in the news.

    GO Sarah! PALIN 2012!

  74. libdave
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    Yes Regular, and your condcending attitude brings so much to the conversation. You my dear sir wouldn’t know adult conversation, if it was formally introduced to you. As to the qualifications of Kennedy, just what are the requirements laid out in the Constitution? I think you will find she is indeed qualified to hold the office.

  75. Regular
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    #
    libdave
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    Yes Regular, and your condcending attitude brings so much to the conversation. You my dear sir wouldn’t know adult conversation, if it was formally introduced to you. As to the qualifications of Kennedy, just what are the requirements laid out in the Constitution? I think you will find she is indeed qualified to hold the office.
    ———————-
    Why thank you.

    The qualifications to be a U.S. Senator are slight and have been discussed on this blog before.

    Perhaps I could introduce you to a search function for the Web called Google. It’s quite handy.

  76. Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    libdave —

    You beat me to it…. IF we go by the Constitution, which is difficult for some here on the Blog, then Caroline Kennedy is just as qualified as anybody else… However, somewhere along the line, it seems like some of the American people have tried to write a job description other than that prescribed by the Constitution….

    So, maybe we could keep the discussion to that for a while…. Is there anything in the Constitutional requirements for being a Senator in the U.S. Congress that would disqualify Caroline Kennedy from being named to fill an un-expired term??

  77. Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    And Google will show what, in reference to Ms. Kennedy being qualified, or not, to be named to fill an un-expired term??

  78. libdave
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    Regular, you asked for adult conversation, yet you respond in grade school fashion. I was commenting on the topic of this thread.

  79. Mr_Kia
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    Just wondering what your takes on Palin’s qualifications were then?
    She was qualified under the Constituition as well.
    I think that’s the argument.
    The treatment and the bafoon that was made of someone who holds one of 50 jobs in the country vs. that of someone who has spent the all of her professional life living off of her name.
    My opinion is – More power to her. It’s just a double standard.

  80. RFL
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    “As to the qualifications of Kennedy, just what are the requirements laid out in the Constitution? I think you will find she is indeed qualified to hold the office.”

    Constitution? Ha! She has not been videotaped with a turkey being slaughtered in the background. Need We Caroline Defenders say more?
    Therefore, she has an above average IQ. She is amply qualified based on the issues. Period.

    Go Caroline Go! We Love You!

  81. Regular
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    #
    libdave
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    Regular, you asked for adult conversation, yet you respond in grade school fashion. I was commenting on the topic of this thread.
    ==================
    Yes, you discussed my inability to discuss like an adult twice and qualifications for the Senate. Which I might add about the qualifications have been discussed ad nauseum on this blog.

    But do carry on with your points of interest and discussion.

  82. libdave
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    Yes, Charles, too many have to filter everything through their own agenda, it warps the whole process. What does the law say about naming a replacement to fill the remainder of Clintons term? That should be the focus of the conversation, not how well Kennedy speaks, here past work experience, or anything else.

  83. BlueJay
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    “RE: The Turkey slaughter. Unless you are a vegan I don’t know why you care.”

    If you’re really that clueless.

    Stay that way.

  84. libdave
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    Regular, it’s all about you, isn’t it? No more troll soup for you.

  85. Mr_Kia
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    Then why do you care JR?

  86. lindainks55
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    The title of this thread is, “Too hard on Caroline Kennedy?”

    It was probably intended, as all thread headers are, to lead us to everything that might be controversial. More ‘hits’ that way. And, this week Sarah Palin had words on this very subject of whether she was treated fairly by the press. She also compared how the press treated her to how the press treats Kennedy.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z21eaWcAQ3I

    Just as there was never any question about whether Palin satisfied the constitutional requirements for the job she was asking for, there isn’t for Caroline Kennedy either. That’s not controversial, there’s nothing there to generate ‘hits.’

  87. Regular
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    #
    libdave
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    Regular, it’s all about you, isn’t it? No more troll soup for you.
    —————————–
    Explain why you wish to focus you thoughts toward me? I am confident the thread topic is on Caroline Kennedy.

    Are you attempting to raise or lower the standard of discussion here?

    Perhaps you can explain to me why certain ideologically liberal detractors insist on bringing Sarah Palin into the mix.

    In my mind, the Palin detractor is irrelevant and does nothing to promote Caroline Kennedy’s vie for the U.S. Senate.

  88. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

    A Senator is one of one-hundred people.

    The Moose-Dresser would have been a heartbeat away from a 74-year-old five-time cancer survivor; whose only constitutional duty (aside from breaking ties in the Senate) is to be ready to sit — alone — in the most powerful political position in the history of civilization.

  89. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    Why aren’t you CONs all up in arms about Caribou Barbie whining about Caroline Kennedy getting better treatment from the media because of class?

    I thought you guys hated the whole concept of “class warfare.”

  90. lindainks55
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    Sarah Palin herself tells us she would have done it again, no matter how much she blames the media (among others) for her unfair treatment. She wants to be the future of the GOP and she has supporters, thus has put herself “in the mix.”

  91. lindainks55
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    If they can’t understand why she is being talked about, after she asked to talked about… Oh well.

    GO Sarah PALIN 2012!

  92. Regular
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:50 pm | Permalink

    #
    Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    Why aren’t you CONs all up in arms about Caribou Barbie whining about Caroline Kennedy getting better treatment from the media because of class?

    I thought you guys hated the whole concept of “class warfare.”
    —————————–
    Perhaps no one wants to hear more adolescent monographs of an active Governor by a fired radio talk show host?

  93. libdave
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    The cons hate class warfare, when it suits them, not so much when they think it will help them. They won’t admit it, but cons are big on situational ethics. Kennedy being named as Clintons replacement should be of no more concern to us here in Kansas than any other NewYork state election.

  94. Regular
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    #
    libdave
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    The cons hate class warfare, when it suits them, not so much when they think it will help them. They won’t admit it, but cons are big on situational ethics. Kennedy being named as Clintons replacement should be of no more concern to us here in Kansas than any other NewYork state election.

    ==============================
    libdave, I would be pleased if you would take note of my earlier entry on this topic.

    Regular
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 8:26 am | Permalink

    It’s up to the people of New York. If they decided, then they can live with any consequences that may occur.

    I have a suspicion that the people of New York want someone with more political savvy than Caroline Kennedy.

  95. BlueJay
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Mr Kia?

    Let’s say you are making a video of yourself for a job interview.

    The cameraman asks you if you mind doing it in front of animals being graphically slaughtered.

    What do YOU say? Now, you know it doesn’t bother you or your family maybe. But you SHOULD have a good idea that about 80% of people watching are either going to think you are a ghoul or unbelievably stupid.

    Sarah soldiered on, and PROUDLY so. She may as well be shouting, “I’m either a ghoul or incredibly stupid! Your call!”

  96. fleettwood
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    fleettwood
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 7:17 am | Permalink
    You know, like, who cares? It’s the, you know, problem of, like, New York, you know.
    It’s, like, their problem, you know? Like.

  97. libdave
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    I nominate fleetwood as blog comedian. He is so clever.

  98. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    “fleettwood” recycles his earlier lame joke –

    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:58 pm | Permalink
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 7:17 am | Permalink

    “You know, like, who cares? It’s the, you know, problem of, like, New York, you know.
    It’s, like, their problem, you know? Like.”

    You betcha!
    (wink)

  99. Mr_Kia
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    I seriously doubt she was aware of the backdrop. That’s the job of PR people.
    I think 80% is a huge stretch.
    If anything animal rights people should have been thrilled with the free publicity.

  100. Mr_Kia
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WALIARHHLII&feature=related

    What is the age minimum again for a Senator?
    This young lady has a great future.

  101. fleettwood
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    ““fleettwood” recycles his earlier lame joke”

    At least I don’t plagarize from Fark.com, like the monkey man.

  102. lindainks55
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    Palin: Crazy or Crazy Like a Fox?

    -snip-

    “Others, like the Post’s own Ruth Marcus, shot holes through Palin’s suggestions about the double standards in the media coverage between her and Kennedy.

    Writes Marcus:

    “The difference is not one of party but of position. It’s not a ‘class issue,’ as Palin put it in her interview , but a job issue: vice president vs. senator. If Barack Obama had tapped Kennedy to be his vice-presidential nominee, I would have been howling about her unfitness, not getting all misty-eyed about the cute little girl on her pony.”

    And yet, despite that quite legitimate criticism, we continue to believe that there is a certain level of strategy and savvy in Palin’s ongoing jihad against the media, the left and the affluent.

    We know from polling that among conservative Republicans — the group most likely to agree wholeheartedly with Palin’s assessment of the media and of the outsized power of the wealthy — the Alaska governor remains extremely popular.

    And, it just so happens that conservative Republicans tend to be the ones who have the strongest say in the choice of the party’s presidential nominee every four years.

    The more Palin can cement the idea that she is the populist voice that many Republicans have been waiting for ever since Ronald Reagan left office in 1988, the more likely it is she will retain her popularity among the rank and file of the party and be in a strong position should she decide to run for president in 2012.

    Interviews like this one — and the subsequent publicity surrounding it — do just that. In a leaderless party, Palin is making sure her voice is heard loud and clear, and that the following she built in 2008 (and whether you like it or not, she did build a following) stays loyal to her. That loyalty will be critical if and when she decides to seek the presidency in three years time.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2009/01/palin_crazy_or_crazy_like_a_fo.html?hpid=sec-politics

  103. Maggotpunk
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 4:22 pm | Permalink

    rolltide claims,
    “Ok and the dems are the party that elected al franken, correct? A man whoes main claim to fame is as a not all that funny comedian?”

    Franken is a Democrat. The Democratic party hasn’t criticized people from Hollywood, and their liberal values, as being something that should prevent them from being elected to office. If you hadn’t noticed Democrats and Republicans differ on many positions.

  104. BlueJay
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 4:22 pm | Permalink

    “I seriously doubt she was aware of the backdrop.”

    She was asked if she had a problem with it and said no. She even mentioned in the interview that some people might have a problem with it but called it “all funn”.

    This and the radio DJ prank that she bought hook, line and sinker show her to be incredibly naive.

  105. lindainks55
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    I do understand keeping yourself in the media when you have designs on being elected to higher political offices. But, is it wise to criticize those you would need to depend on to get your story out? She sounds whiny, and she isn’t going away. (giggle)

    ———-

    Palin: It’s the Media, Stupid

    Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin just can’t say enough about how unfair the news media has been to her.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/01/09/palin-its-the-media-stupid/

  106. XXX
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

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    fleettwood
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    fleettwood
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 7:17 am | Permalink
    You know, like, who cares? It’s the, you know, problem of, like, New York, you know.
    It’s, like, their problem, you know? Like.
    _________________________________________________

    God, that’s irritating! I liked the idea of Kennedy being appointed at first, but after hearing her talk…

  107. Posted January 9, 2009 at 11:14 pm | Permalink

    Ya know, XXX, I have known many people who have difficulty talking on camera…. But put them in a Board room, or in charge of a meeting, and they are terriffic!!

    I’d like to see Caroline operate in that kind of setting, since Senators more often need to communicate in meetings, han in front of cameras….

  108. JMWalker
    Posted January 9, 2009 at 11:40 pm | Permalink

    Chas, if you’d have watched the interview, you would come to the same conclusion: she is in no way ready for prime time, by any stretch of the imagination.

  109. JimJohnson
    Posted January 10, 2009 at 10:15 am | Permalink

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    You know who could be too hard for Caroline?

  110. JimJohnson
    Posted January 10, 2009 at 10:19 am | Permalink

    LOL!

    What a feeble defense of Caroline Kennedy – Attack Palin!

    Linda, go find Roach and get some endorphins to help you relax, and accept that Caroline Kennedy is simply, well…simple. A simply stupid rich btich woman born with a silver spoon up her a*s.