Kathleen Sebelius provided few specifics in her dull State of the State speech last night, talking mostly in generalities about overcoming adversity and working together, our editorial today noted. Some of those details are now coming out, as her revised 2009 budget and 2010 blueprint were released today. Sebelius proposes to freeze money to public schools, cut universities’ budgets, slash promised aid to cities and counties, suspend planned tax cuts and force administrative savings.
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maybe some administrative savings can include removing the Phelps family from their taxpayer funded positions
Phillip Brownlee: “… freese money to public schools, cut universities budgets, slash promised aid to cities and counties, suspend promised tax cuts and force administrative savings.”
And Phillip, the unstated elephant in the china shop: RAISE PROPERTY TAXES STATEWIDE TO STOP THE BLEEDING.
Kansas has had a cash basis law since the old Depression days. As far as I know the state is prohibited from going into anauthorized debt.
Kansas (and local governments for that matter) have spent recklessly for years. Now Kansas chickens are coming home to roost … big time.
We already pay too much in property tax…I say let’s tax the hell out of gasoline, liquor, cigarettes, gaming, and increase the sales tax. Why do the property owners always have to be the first to cough up the extra money? It’s time to level the playing field so it will be more fair than it is now.
I wonder if the Governor will cut the “party” budget for the Governor’s mansion.
You know, so she doesn’t throw champagne and caviar bashes for Tiller and his cronies.
We are getting raped on property taxes as it is. Mine went up 11.5% just this last year and that was before the dam* school bond passing.
Hey numskulls, what do you think of passing that elephant bond issue now. Idiots. Same with the arena.
Isn’t most property tax levied at the county level and not the state, and crooked county appraisals that inflate the value of homes to generate more $$$. And Mary I imagine you’ll see increases in taxes on tobacco and probably booze also
“Boxlock20
Posted January 13, 2009 at 4:46 pm | Permalink
We are getting raped on property taxes as it is. Mine went up 11.5% just this last year and that was before the dam* school bond passing.
Hey numskulls, what do you think of passing that elephant bond issue now. Idiots. Same with the arena.”
The school bond increased your yearly property taxes by what, $60? Big frickin deal.
“TomPaine
Posted January 13, 2009 at 6:05 pm | Permalink
Isn’t most property tax levied at the county level and not the state”
Yes
“…inflate the value of homes to generate more $$$.”
Probably. Of course they have to because costs to run government are increasingly pushed from the federal to the state to the local level so politicians at those levels can ‘cut taxes’.
Brian, the State and Federal governments shouldnt be financing the city and county governments in the first place.
“The school bond increased your yearly property taxes by what, $60? Big frickin deal.”—brian_nuevo
No nitwit, about 5 times that. And for what, lousy performance in the schools.
TomPaine,
You are correct, but there is talk of increases in property taxes, I don’t know if the state would institute something or simply de-fund schools causing the counties to increase property taxes to cover.
What we didn’t need was a second school bond issue and a white elephant arena with no parking.
What’s going to make some people really question their YES vote for the 2nd. school bond issue and the arena is when they get their increased tax bill and they have lost their jobs at Cessna, Hawker-Beech, Boeing and all the support companies that might well be effected. They can’t just say time-out till I get back to work.
“TomPaine
Posted January 13, 2009 at 6:19 pm | Permalink
Brian, the State and Federal governments shouldnt be financing the city and county governments in the first place.”
True, they should not have been. But they were.
“Boxlock20
Posted January 13, 2009 at 8:47 pm | Permalink
“The school bond increased your yearly property taxes by what, $60? Big frickin deal.”—brian_nuevo
No nitwit, about 5 times that. And for what, lousy performance in the schools.”
If you live in a $750,000 house it would raise $300. Do you live in a $750,000 house?
It was a capital improvement bond. The money will go to repairing and building new infrastructure in USD 259. The bond has nothing to do with performance of the students, it is to ensure they have adequate facitilities to be students in. Their performance is a result of their parents involvement, the districts abiltiy to move students of different achievement levels to separate classrooms and the competency of the teachers.
Nitwit.
Now the arena, that was stupid.
Very, very few concerts or performances (sports or theater) fill up the venues we already have.
The one feature the arena could attract is sports events like NCAA tournaments. But that would only be every few years and when it came, most people here would be too cheap to drop the money for a ticket.
In my post above I said my property taxes went up 11.5% a total of approx. $300 (5 times $60). You were the one that confined it to school bond.
“We are getting raped on property taxes as it is. Mine went up 11.5% just this last year and that was before the dam* school bond passing.” The bond will add even more now.
The schools are being run abysmally! Over $605 million a year, over $12,000 per student and poor performance overall. That sad and incompetent.
Ya know ‘brian’ the increased taxes all add up. It’s not just one part being so much, it’s the continual increases, all added together.
May I ask, are you a part of the school system or just a product of it?
“Boxlock20
Posted January 13, 2009 at 10:13 pm | Permalink
…May I ask, are you a part of the school system or just a product of it?”
I am neither a part of the USD 259 school sytem not a product of it. I did graduate from a Kansas public school.
And you?
“Boxlock20
Posted January 13, 2009 at 10:10 pm | Permalink
…The schools are being run abysmally! Over $605 million a year, over $12,000 per student and poor performance overall…”
What do you mean by the schools being run abysmally?
When you say poor performance, what constitutes that? Test scores? Graduation rates? College attendance?
I am not arguing nor implying that they are run well and have good performance, just curious to know what makes you think they are so bad.
I said it once before and I will say it again, money is a made up value.
Financial problems are a perception by those who refuse to let go of old concepts.
Bartering system is a secondary system of trade made to complement the primary monetary system.
Create your own money and use it to trade with and save the dollar to use on the budget deficit.
It is a simple solution for the government if you can dispel the fears and the greed.