Speeding bill will go nowhere fast

State Sen. David Haley, D-Kansas City, is reviving his proposal that the Kansas Turnpike Authority charge tolls based on drivers’ speed. Haley wants to be able to charge drivers more if they speed, based on a time stamp of when they enter and exit the turnpike. But a similar bill that Haley pushed in an earlier session couldn’t even get a committee hearing in the Legislature, and this bill is unlikely to get much further.

24 Comments

  1. JWink
    Posted January 7, 2009 at 6:10 am | Permalink

    More importantly, we need a law prohibiting talking on cellphones while driving. It seems like almost every day, I see a near miss because of this.

  2. Political_mama
    Posted January 7, 2009 at 6:23 am | Permalink

    I’d say once every six months do I see a near miss because of it.

    But I think the idea is dumb. I would rather see the fines raised for speeders.

  3. Boxlock20
    Posted January 7, 2009 at 6:56 am | Permalink

    “Haley wants to be able to charge drivers more if they speed, based on a time stamp of when they enter and exit the turnpike.”

    Another brilliant [NOT] thought from a Democrat’s mind, or vacuumous space where there there should normally resides a brain.

  4. BlueJay
    Posted January 7, 2009 at 7:07 am | Permalink

    EXCELLENT idea! Catch speeders without bothering them with a cop.

  5. BlueJay
    Posted January 7, 2009 at 7:10 am | Permalink

    Minimal cost to implement and it would generate revenue for the state. The surcharge to speed and endanger others while you lose fuel efficiency for the sake of getting there six minutes earlier is completely voluntary.

    Probably, too smart an idea to take off in Kansas.

  6. newsletter
    Posted January 7, 2009 at 7:13 am | Permalink

    I’d love to pay a few more bucks to drive 100mph up the turnpike. I could make it to KC in 2 hours! how cool would that be.

  7. BlueJay
    Posted January 7, 2009 at 7:16 am | Permalink

    Of course, because of idiots like above, the surcharge should be progressive.

    If getting to Kansas city REAL fast is important, fly in the air not on the road. Or pay one humongous premium.

  8. george
    Posted January 7, 2009 at 7:42 am | Permalink

    If it goes nowwhere, why even post it on the blog? There is more important items to worry about than this speed bleep.

  9. writerdog
    Posted January 7, 2009 at 7:56 am | Permalink

    One night at the jail a trooper brought a guy in for speeding on the turnpike, the way he was caught was the time stamp. When the toll taker noticed the time stamp from K.C. to Wichita she called over a trooper and they figured up just how fact the guy must of been driving. He was averaging 110 miles an hour to make the distance in that amount of time!

  10. lindainks55
    Posted January 7, 2009 at 8:36 am | Permalink

    If we stop for a cup of coffee and the time stamps indicate we went slower than the minimum speed will we be ticketed for going too slowly, or get a rebate on the toll…?

  11. DavosRancheros
    Posted January 7, 2009 at 8:44 am | Permalink

    Maybe place timestamps at each McDonalds so when you get a bite or gas up it will take that time out…yea this will work. LOL

  12. Posted January 7, 2009 at 8:53 am | Permalink

    Don’t be so quick to discount this Bill ever passing. With the State hurting for money they are going to be looking for any new revenue streams they can find.

  13. WAR
    Posted January 7, 2009 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    It’s a good and novel idea, but it will never fly. As evidenced here by these posts, Kansas drivers (and probably others than just Kansas drivers) feel certain that they have an inalienable right to speed and otherwise drive stupidly. And the Kansas legislature doesn’t seem to have the gonads to address unpopular issues (such as a statewide smoking ban). Historically in Ill., Penn., N.J. there was a Highway Patrol Officer stationed at toll boothes. When the cashier found a ticket with elapsed times on it that proved speeding, the officer issued a citation on the spot. I’d like to see that happen here in Kansas. Then it would simply be a violation / enforcement action relationship and these ‘right to speed’ idiots wouldn’t be able to cry “… the gov. is sticking their nose in my business.”

  14. brian_nuevo
    Posted January 7, 2009 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    I would support the charging tolls based on speed on one condition – the speed limit on the turnpike be lifted. I would pay twice as much to get there in half the time.

    In lieu of that, I could speed, then use my time savings to stop at Hardees for some breakfast, and pay the same, lower toll.

  15. Maggotpunk
    Posted January 7, 2009 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    Hold on, so if I pay for going 80mph does that mean I get to go 80mph on the turnpike?

  16. GMC70
    Posted January 7, 2009 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    Hey – if I have to pay $4.00 for a toll instead of $2.00 to get to open her up and let her roll at 100 mph or so (assuming weather and traffic conditions make that possible safely), great. It’s worth it.

    Always wonder where the top end is; perhaps I may be able to find out now . . .

  17. Monkeyhawk
    Posted January 7, 2009 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    “GMC70″ –

    Your 29-year old truck will probably roll, alright, once you open her up to 100… and probably won’t hit 100 unless you drive off a cliff.

  18. Posted January 7, 2009 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    You mean 39 year old truck don’t you?

  19. I_Rule
    Posted January 7, 2009 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    I hate to have to be the one to break this to you, but the vast majority of traffic accidents aren’t caused by excessive speed. A few years ago I was working at a police department when there was a push to lower the speed limit on a certain road due to traffic accidents, and I was asked to research all accident reports for the previous ten years and give a break down of the causes. While I don’t remember the exact numbers now, there wasn’t a single accident where speed alone was cited as the cause. The closest were several accidents in the winter months where the cause was cited as “speed unsafe for conditions), i.e. driving 45 MPH in a 55 MPH zone on icy roads. All of the other accidents from the years I searched were caused by DUI, following too closely, inattentive driving, etc. That’s not to say that nationwide there are never accidents caused by someone driving too fast for their particular abilities. However, many people have proven that they don’t even have the ability to safely drive at any speed limit. Why punish the rest of us who only drive as fast as we are safely able to?

  20. SHADOW_KNOWS
    Posted January 7, 2009 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    I agree with GMC70, but I think that there should be 5-10mph tolerance to cover if your speed is off in your vehicle , espcially with bigger vehicles that tend to allow for numerous tire sizes.
    Some tire size and or maintenance cause your vehicle to be off on speed.

  21. the_truth_hurts
    Posted January 7, 2009 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    So some of you don’t care if big brother monitors your turnpike ticket for speeding. How about if big brother pulls that black box under your carseat to see if you ever speed…or ever make a turn without signaling…or? Further extrapolated, you must also not care if big brother monitors your phone calls for terrorist activities, right?

  22. GMC70
    Posted January 7, 2009 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    Your 29-year old truck [sic] will probably roll, alright, once you open her up to 100… and probably won’t hit 100 unless you drive off a cliff.

    You’d be surprised. She runs like a top.

    However, I’d rather open up the wife’s toy; fully capable of well over 100 mph. And a nice bit of fun that would be. . .

    ***

    I strip away the old debris, that hides a shining car
    A brilliant red barchetta, from a better, vanished time
    I fire up the willing engine, responding with a roar
    Tires spitting gravel, I commit my weekly crime…

    Wind in my hair —
    Shifting and drifting —
    Mechanical music —
    Adrenalin surge —

    Well-weathered leather
    Hot metal and oil
    The scented country air
    Sunlight on chrome
    The blur of the landscape
    Every nerve aware

  23. Regular
    Posted January 7, 2009 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    Cruise control, cup of coffee, easy listening music, it removes the temptation.

  24. Mary_Caruso
    Posted January 7, 2009 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    As one with a perpetual lead foot…I’d love the chance to drive faster on the turnpike and only pay a little more to do it. That’s what I love about going out of the country to some place like Mexico…no speed limits!